[00:00] <[n0mad]> uhhh [00:00] <[n0mad]> so the image viewer [00:00] <[n0mad]> oh it went away [00:00] <[n0mad]> i clicked and dragged on an image and it freaked my cursor out [00:06] can i ask questions here or is that on a different chan [00:06] th1sguy: If it's a support question about Ubuntu, here [00:07] th1sguy: ask. I'm sure the mugs will let you know if it's on topic [00:07] th1sguy: see like genii [00:08] well here's my question. i accidentally moved my lib folder into my home folder in unetbootin (at least that's what I think happened) and now none of my programs start when I click them. How fix? [00:08] th1sguy: in a live OS? [00:08] no it was on an install [00:09] th1sguy: can you clarify "in unetbootin"? [00:09] no like i was using unetbootin for something and clicked wrong [00:09] so in some kind of file manager [00:09] as root? [00:10] th1sguy: it's hard to imagine, but if you actually moved /lib* to /home/youruser/, and can't mv it back, you'll need to boot to a live OS to put it back [00:10] heres the scenario: ubuntu is installed and so is unetbootin. i double click unetbootin and type my password. then i accidentally click and drag one folder into another and exit unetbootin before i realize what happened [00:10] th1sguy: were you running a live disk messing around with an installed system [00:11] no i was booted into the os installed on my hdd [00:12] unetbootin was installed on my machine. i went to mount an iso i had just downloaded and accidentally clicked and drug a folder into another folder within the unetbootin application [00:12] th1sguy: I see. While you ran unetboot in ubuntu you opened folders in the program and moved them [00:13] th1sguy: were you running unetboot as sudo [00:13] yes it makes you [00:14] th1sguy: move them back in unetboot [00:15] it wont start. neither will any other program [00:15] If I wanted to load a file from the terminal is the home folder the same as root? [00:15] th1sguy: you could try to run a live disk and move it back [00:16] Like if I wanted to load a file which is test.txt [00:16] okay so since my hdd is encrypted what do i have to do special [00:16] would I be able to pull it from terminal going test.txt [00:16] hardyred: I just logged in....Please repeat the question [00:17] th1sguy: If you can get a console, might want to try to mv it back [00:17] th1sguy: I'm sure terminal still works. Use the sudo mv command [00:17] jeffrey_f: Is the home folder the root folder in ubuntu? [00:17] yeah but i cant open terminal. when i click the icon it does nothing [00:18] jeffrey_f: like if someone says the file is in ~./test for ubuntu [00:18] hardyred: No. / is the root folder [00:18] th1sguy: use the console for terminal commands === Arduino_Reprap is now known as Arduino [00:18] So if someone says the folder is in ~/.test [00:18] th1sguy: Try crtl-altf1 instead, alt-f7 should return you to gui [00:18] Where would that folder be? [00:18] the means relative to your current folder [00:19] hardyred: Normally, you would be in your home folder, which is something like /home/YourID [00:19] th1sguy: are you for real. Then your GUI for ubuntu wouldn't work. Are you wasting our time [00:19] jefrrey_f: gotcha thank you === ilbelkyr_ is now known as ilbelkyr [00:19] hardyred, ~/ is your home and user [00:20] genii: I'm sure th1sguy is playing [00:20] yeah guys i invented a fake problem so you would have to sift through inane comments [00:21] hardyred: Fully understand?? Word to the wise......Make sure that you ARE in your home folder (/home/YourUserID) especially if you are doing anything else with files......Just to be safe, I always try to use fully qualified folders /home/MyUser/test <- like that [00:22] 1721 people in one chat :O [00:22] mtyoncol: If shared libs were already loaded into ram for things already running those things would continue running === eclipse is now known as Guest83051 [00:22] how do i start over on console i typed something and then hit enter and now when I type stuff it doesnt show up [00:22] th1sguy: www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu [00:22] hardyred, I would agree in full paths, I was concerned you were aware is all. [00:23] vCra: Yeah. inquiring minds want to know .. ubuntu is that popular . [00:23] hardyred: You can also use $home to return to your home cd $home [00:24] genii: go ahead. This stinks to me [00:25] ok im in console but its not letting me type what am i doing wrong [00:25] asking here [00:25] ;) [00:26] I have to go anyhow === cweagans is now known as cweagans_afk === lahwran is now known as lauren [00:48] jeffrey_f: Sure I understand now, sorry I had to steo out earlier [00:49] has anyone ran into this issue when trying to install the json gem? [00:49] Installing json 1.8.2 with native extensions [00:49] Gem::Ext::BuildError: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension. [00:49] /usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.2.3/bin/ruby -r ./siteconf20151008-28524-a2jsda.rb extconf.rb [00:49] creating Makefile [00:49] make "DESTDIR=" clean === Rukiri is now known as rukiri [00:52] msg nickserv identify Yetiboy12 [00:52] hellow [00:52] anyone know how to solve this issue?/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgmp [00:52] rukiri, I see this, otherwise I know nothing, https://github.com/rvm/rvm/issues/3509 [00:53] rukiri: it looks like you're trying to build non-packaged software using a local install of ruby, not an Ubuntu system package [00:58] I have just downloaded texlive. The installation worked successfully. How can I launch it? [00:58] it doesn't seem to have created an "application" that is viewable in the search box [01:01] in_deep_thought: dpkg -L texlive | grep -i bin [01:02] howdy, [01:03] a question on grub and a live USB: I want to copy my current grub.cfg from a /dev/hda1 to my live USB key.. I am currently booted under the live USB key and it doesn't let me create anything in the /boot partition [01:03] ohh hang maybe is proctected [01:03] gunfus: it's read only === Icedream- is now known as Icedream [01:04] why do you want to do that [01:04] Can someone help me make a .jar file executable? [01:04] Doptzt: chmod +x foo.jar [01:04] or just run java -jar foo.jar [01:04] reisio: lol.. yeah that was a stupid question.. maybe that fall I had in my bike really did affected my head [01:04] or don't [01:04] It's saying i don't have access [01:04] gunfus: probs :) [01:04] Doptzt: maybe you don't own it; ls -al foo.jar [01:04] How do i go about owning it? [01:05] Doptzt: sudo chown youruser:youruser foo.jar [01:05] reisio: is there a way to open the file from the file navigator (nautilus i think) as root? [01:05] gunfus: sure, what for [01:06] reisio: want to put my grub.cfg on the live USB key [01:06] chown: missing operand after ‘/home.../file.jar’ [01:06] gunfus: unless the USB storage device was created with a persistent storage you can't write to it [01:07] gunfus: yeah, but why [01:07] Doptzt: what'd you run? [01:07] TJ-: I can write to it [01:07] gunfus: what is 'it' ? [01:07] reisio: because I am going to mess up with my /boot partition.. I need to do some reconf on my hds [01:07] reisio: sudo chown /home/.../file.jar [01:08] reisio: so in case I blow away or missconfig my /boot I want to have a backup [01:09] gunfus: if the USB has a persistent file-system partition, you can write into that. Otherwise, the live environment lives entirely in-memory, the root-fs comes from a squashfs file [01:09] Doptzt: that isn't what I told you to run [01:09] reisio: sorry what do i run? [01:09] Doptzt: sudo chown youruser:youruser foo.jar [01:09] where does that path go? [01:09] gunfus: try just copying it to some other partition [01:10] Doptzt: sudo chown youruser:youruser path/to/foo.jar [01:11] since i installed docker, my laptop kernel panics a few seconds after init, how can i boot without services ? [01:11] okay now what? === btx is now known as pleasehelp [01:13] Doptzt: java -jar path/to/foo.jar [01:13] Doptzt: or chmod +x path/to/foo.jar [01:13] Doptzt: or ./path/to/foo.jar [01:13] Nothing happening [01:13] it's probably deleting your files :) [01:14] haha nope [01:14] still there [01:14] it's probably tricking you! [01:14] Cmonnn help me haha [01:14] told you what to do already [01:15] java is real slow crappy nonsense, though [01:15] if it's not producing any output, but you don't have a new prompt, just wait [01:15] wait forever [01:15] that's what java is about [01:15] There we go [01:15] haha [01:15] yeah, waiting worked? [01:15] SO i have to launch it from the command line each time? [01:15] no you don't [01:16] how do i do it by just clicking? [01:16] what happens when you click it? [01:16] hold on [01:16] opens a extraction folder [01:17] Doptzt: you'd need to create a Freedesktop desktop launcher file, in $HOME/.local/applications/ [01:18] Not sure what that means [01:19] Doptzt: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles [01:20] TJ-: thank you [01:20] Doptzt: means it thinks it's a zip file, which it is === Tsunami is now known as Guest29814 [01:22] reisio, that comes out blank. is that a bad sign? [01:23] in_deep_thought: what comes out blank? [01:23] dpkg -L texlive | grep -i bin [01:23] probably just means it's a metapackage [01:23] dpkg -L texlive comes out with some stuff [01:24] in_deep_thought: ls /usr/bin/*tex* [01:24] everything seems to be in usr/share/bug/texlive or usr/share/doc/texlive [01:24] in_deep_thought: I think 'tex' is the GUI executable. [01:25] in_deep_thought: try "which tex" ... apt-file shows: "texlive-binaries: /usr/bin/tex" [01:25] TJ-, is there no GUI? [01:25] TJ-:can't figure it out [01:25] ah yeah there is /usr/bin/tex [01:26] in_deep_thought: Most of the tools in the TeX package are command-line tools for piping data between [01:27] is there no GUI for ubuntu with tex? [01:27] there are plenty [01:27] oh. any recommendations? [01:27] but using a GUI kinda defeats the purpose :p [01:27] uh, I've heard people use texmaker? [01:27] got me [01:28] afk a bit [01:28] I use TexStudio and am reasonably satisfied with it. [01:29] Lyx try that deep? [01:29] hey all, how do wifi-radar and network manager relate? I like to idea of wifi-radar that you can give priority to wifi's. But does that mean that I need to remove network manager and replace it with wifi-radar? [01:30] no you can select your card using rader or manager [01:30] which environment? [01:31] what do i type at the screen that says the passphrase is needed to access encrypted data on my hard drive? is it the security key (like my encryption string that i used to type every time at boot) or that hexadecimal thingy i got when running ecryptfs-some-command or what? [01:31] I have to launch a .jar file from the termianl everytime or is there a way to have an icon? [01:31] user password most likely [01:32] icons are a process to make in unity rather then kde or gnome there are alot of vids on it [01:34] Is it me, or are updates going suuuuuper slow right now? [01:35] I just did a speed test of my network connection, my downstream is 120 MBPs. But downloading my Ubuntu update is like ancient modem speeds. [01:35] mtr to some random internet server isn't showing any dropped packets. [01:36] maybe its the server...the kali server gets like that sometimes too [01:39] ok [01:39] wad: which server are you hitting? [01:40] I tried, and didn't see a way to tell. [01:40] Probably some linux command would tell me. [01:40] I'm just using the GUI updater tool right now. [01:40] Just starin' at a progress bar. [01:41] It's so weird.... a bunch of websites are showing errors and failed jpeg-decoded images. [01:42] I'm gonna reboot. [01:42] what happens with a standard apt-update? [01:43] Are linux distributions generally more efficient for old laptops than Windows 8 would be? [01:45] phil i would guess so...win 8 needs processing power to be efficient [01:46] it depends on the distro you choose @Philo [01:46] I need to rollback an upgrade with apt-get, the "config version" says 9.5~alpha2-1.pgdg14.04+1 (it's postgresql) but when I try apt-get install postgresql-9.5=9.5~alpha2-1.pgdg14.04+1 it says that the version doesn't exist [01:48] Philo: you have many more options to choose what to run and the consequences for performance with linux than you have with windows. So yes it is possible to run a linux distribution on much older hardware than windows 8. But it is always a trade-off between the graphic gadgets/niceties and performance. [01:50] If you run the latest ubuntu with the unity desktop, or linux mint with cinnamon desktop, or debian with gnome shell, you still need strong hardware. If you choose the mate desktop or xfce on the other hand, you still have a modern os with less hardware requirements. [01:50] so xubuntu for instance, or linux mint with mate desktop are two distributions that have lower hardware requirements [01:52] lubuntu is also good for old systems [01:53] hi [01:53] how's xubuntu compared to lubuntu? i don't recall. i tried lubuntu for a while and it was good [01:58] is there a room dedicated to troubleshooting grub? [01:59] or is anyone able to assist? my laptop has been borked for months [02:01] Sterist: #grub for grub itself; If you've an Ubuntu system failing to boot here is probably better === cweagans_afk is now known as cweagans [02:04] I have ubuntu and Windows on the same hdd, had issues with Windows and tried repairing Windows and it killed grub [02:05] I don't know many commands that work in rescue mode and no clue how to troubleshoot it [02:05] is 19.9% MEM high for mysql for a server just running a low traffic drupal site? [02:06] Sterist: When the PC boots what exactly happens? [02:06] error: no such partition [02:06] Entering rescue mode [02:07] Sterist: do you get left with a grub rescue> prompt? [02:07] yes I do [02:07] Sterist: Good :) ... I'll give you some commands to issue. Let's start with "set" and then tell me what "prefix" and "root" are set to [02:09] cmdpath=(hd0) | prefix=(hd0, msdos4)/boot/grub | root=hd0, msdos4 [02:09] when I grep apache, it looks like it's showing some watch commands I previously ran; how are you supposed to kill those correctly? [02:09] Anyone knows how to change an icon in cairo-dock? [02:09] Sterist: Great. Now "ls" and tell me what it reports as best you can (there may be several block devices/partitions listed) [02:10] ash_m: watch commands? [02:10] (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) [02:11] reisio: yeah, like watch 'ps aux | grep apache' shows a process for 'sh -c ps aux | grep apache [02:11] ' [02:11] reisio: I assume I started that a long time ago [02:12] ash_m: no, that's probably the process you just ran [02:12] reisio: no, cuz there's 4 now [02:12] why're you using sh -c [02:12] I just did ^C to get out of it [02:12] I don't... or at least I don't anymore... I don't remember using sh -c [02:14] did you catch that, TJ? sorry I forgot how to point messages at a name :( [02:14] Sterist: Yes... thinking. So, grub thinks its root is in partition 4 (msdos4) but there is no msdos4 [02:15] Sterist: lets look for it! Look for a file "grub.cfg", lets start with "ls (hd0,msdos5)/boot/grub/" [02:15] hello [02:16] oh boy [02:16] one moment (0_o) [02:16] |-} [02:17] reisio: I'm just going to restart the server :P [02:17] goes from gpt- to gz- [02:17] no grub [02:18] Please, I need methodology help for recovering a trusty system that dies with kernel traces a few seconds after running lightdm [02:19] Sterist: Sterist can you be more specific, I can't make that out [02:19] the last operations before crash was docker (cgroups apparmor) apt-get crying for aufs [02:19] Sterist: do you mean you see lots of space-separated filenames with a name pattern of .mod ? [02:19] fml [02:19] first letters of files, they display in alphabetical order [02:20] server is not working correctly [02:20] - is for the sake of typing less to save time [02:20] i can boot with break=init and manipulate the filesystem before init [02:20] Sterist: right, but do the filenames end .mod ? [02:20] yes [02:21] pleasehelp: there's a recent kernel bug in the aufs code causing panics [02:21] Sterist: GOOD :) those are grub's module files, but they are in the wrong directory, and in an unexpected partition :) [02:21] TJ-: i manually disabled docker by removing rc2.d links [02:22] there's no "grub.cfg" though [02:22] Sterist: lets see if we can bootstrap you out of there: "set root=hd0,msdos5" and "set prefix=($root)/boot/grub" [02:23] Sterist: then do "set" and check those 2 both are pointing to msdos5, not msdos4 [02:24] correct [02:24] Sterist: now lets try to get you out of the Rescue environment and into the regular GRUB command-line: "insmod normal" then "normal" [02:25] pleasehelp: it might be bug 1503842 [02:25] bug 1503655 in linux (Ubuntu Wily) "duplicate for #1503842 Kernel bug in eventpoll_release_file+0x46/0xa0 with 3.13.0-66.107" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1503655 [02:26] first commands results-- error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found [02:27] Sterist: Right... you see the path it tries has /i386-pc/ in it? That's where GRUB expects all those .mod files. Lets try forcing the path with "insmod (hd0,msdos5)/boot/grub/normal.mod" [02:27] Sterist: I can't recall whether the 'insmod' command allows absolute paths, I hope so though [02:28] error: incompatible license [02:31] Sterist: now that's a weird one! never seen that before! [02:31] can't say I have either :'( [02:32] TJ: i removed all files that find /etc -mmin -100, still got the issue [02:32] Sterist: It comes from the grub kernel module loader function grub_dl_check_license() [02:33] Sterist: Now, it suggests the grub verson's are mixed up and possibly msdos5 contains an old grub v1 install, which would explain the license issue [02:33] Sterist: So we may have been caught out. Let's go back to looking for the correct grub files in other locations [02:34] pleasehelp: if your issue is the bug I referred you to, you'd need to boot to an older kernel via GRUB's Advanced menu [02:34] so just set root and set prefix then try insmod normal for the others? [02:34] TJ: tried all my kernels, it is a userland issue [02:34] til one (hopefully) works [02:35] Sterist: you told me originally there is "(hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)" ... so lets check the others. "ls (hd0,msd0s3)/boot/grub/" [02:35] contains the same files (at a glance) [02:35] pleasehelp: really? is the kernel panicing? [02:35] during downtime between messages I checked 3, but not yet the others [02:36] Sterist: really?!? this is weird. try msdos1 and msdos2 [02:36] Sterist: what we expect to see is about 6 files (grub.cfg being one) including a couple of directories (i386pc/ being one) [02:36] I have 2 ubuntu installs and 1 Windows. each install with a rescue kernel. would that explain the 5 [02:37] Sterist: possibly. It looks like the installs have confused each other with different grub versions too [02:38] TJ-: kernel bug at mm/slab.c:3413 [02:39] Sterist: this is /boot/grub/ as seen from Linux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12720239/ [02:39] seems a null pointer [02:39] invalid opcode: 0000 [02:40] hd0, msdos1, and msdos2 all error: unknown filesystem [02:40] pleasehelp: Right, that is nasty. I see several similar reports but not one with the exact same line number (3413) [02:41] TJ-: each time I only have 5 seconds to do something before this [02:41] Sterist: OK, so we have to work with msdos3 or msdos5 ? [02:41] correct [02:41] pleasehelp: if you boot with "init=/bin/bash" can you at least control the system? [02:41] Sterist: Well, we tried msdos5 and it failed with apparently GRUB v1 modules. Let's explore msdos3 some more [02:42] some of those might be swap partitions and/or fat32, not sure what rescue is able to read [02:42] Sterist: what kernel versions do you see with "ls (hd0,msdos3)/boot/" [02:43] Sterist: What Linux distro/releases are installed? [02:43] Sterist: we might be able to identify the correct partition by the kernel version names [02:43] ubuntu, with xubuntu on top [02:43] TJ-: init=/bin/bash seems not to like my encrypted zfs root [02:43] Sterist: Both installs are Ubuntu based? [02:44] used ubuntu installer and put xfce4 in from app store [02:44] correct [02:44] pleasehelp: hmmm, root-fs should be unlocked/mounted before /bin/bash is loaded. [02:44] Sterist: ok, and which release, 14.04 or some other? [02:45] kernels are all 3.16.0-30 generic through -46 generic [02:45] the newest partition (presumably msdos5) should be 14 LTS [02:46] Sterist: that looks like 14.10 (Utopic) kernels, probably on the 14.04 LTS point release [02:46] the other (I think msdos2 but honestly idk) is an old one, maybe 12 [02:46] Sterist: OK, that helps me visualise what we are working with. We're talking about msdos3 here is that correct? [02:47] yes [02:47] Sterist: so "ls (hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub/" lists a lot of files ending in .mod as before? [02:47] TJ-: password is not asked with init=/bin/bash [02:47] correct [02:47] at a glance, identical to 5 [02:47] pleasehelp: root-file system is unlocked by the initial ramdisk before /bin/bash is called, so that is weird :S [02:48] TJ-: maybe pivot by myself with break=init ? [02:48] Sterist: OK, lets try "set root=hd0,msdos3" and "set prefix=($root)/boot/grub" [02:48] TJ-: zith break=init i get my password asked [02:49] woah I just ls the 3 and it showed me exactly what that link showed, I don't know whay I did differently [02:49] pleasehelp: Yes, anything along those lines so you can get into the console. You could boot with "text" or "systemd.unit=multiuser.target" too [02:49] looks like 3 is it. one moment [02:49] Sterist: typo maybe? So 3 it is :) [02:49] Sterist: "insmod normal" then "normal" ... i'm off to make a coffee! [02:51] sir, can I buy you a coffee? :D [02:51] TJ-: 'text' just boots normally to desktop not interrupting [02:53] Sterist: once it has booted let's fix things from a command-line terminal [02:53] pleasehelp: OK, the system must be using systemd then [02:53] I'm getting endless out of memory errors =/ [02:54] Sterist: really? Sounds like it is really messed up [02:54] TJ-: same with "systemd.unit=multiuser.target" [02:54] powered off and now it's back to msdos4 [02:54] in rescue [02:54] Sterist: may need to reboot, reset GRUB root/prefix again, then use the Advanced > Recovery boot option [02:55] TJ-: i need to interrupt before init load services [02:55] pleasehelp: OK. I suggested that target since you mentioned lightdm and I wondered if the bug was in the graphics side [02:55] pleasehelp: Sounds like you need an earlier target [02:56] pleasehelp: I see "emergency.target" - worth trying do you think? [02:58] TJ-: it starts normally [02:58] use a recovery mode kernel? [02:58] from advanced options [02:58] pleasehelp: can you use that environment to check logs to determine where the issue is kicked off from? [02:59] Sterist: Yes [02:59] TJ-: no pager in initrd :( [02:59] endless out of memory errors again [03:00] pleasehelp: Oh! emergency == initial ramdisk? [03:00] systemd-udevd [03:00] Sterist: sounds like it is well broken! [03:00] Sterist: how much RAM does the system have? [03:00] 4 gigs [03:00] boot disks give me this problem too. [03:01] Sterist: so, OOM errors and udev means something more is bad, than just the messed up GRUB [03:01] TJ-: as i said i can use cat on my fs with 'break=init' [03:01] any idea where to point me? [03:02] TJ-: how to determine if upstart or systemd ? [03:03] with cat ;) ? [03:03] pleasehelp: but from there its hard to pivot into the root-fs and actually trace the boot to figure the issue out. If the system is managing to log, its worth booting it from a Live ISO image and examining the logs manually [03:03] pleasehelp: if it is 15.04+ it'll be using systemd (we know that too because it acted on the systemd.unit= [03:04] TJ-: it's truty [03:04] so upstart [03:04] pleasehelp: Then how did 'systemd.unit=emergency.target" work? [03:04] pleasehelp: Trusty doesn't have systemd [03:04] as normal graphic boot ending with freeze [03:05] 5 secs after lightdm [03:05] pleasehelp: correction: Trusty doesn't have systemd-init (it does have systemd-logind) [03:06] pleasehelp: booting with 'text' on the kernel command-line with an Upstart system will not start lightdm [03:06] i don't understand why 'init=/bin/bash' fails ... [03:06] Sterist: Any chance you could take a photo of the monitor with those OOM errors for me? [03:07] sure. at the moment I'm trying to boot Windows. seems to be hanging but will soon. any preferred hosting site? [03:07] Sterist: I think we recommend imgur on the factoids here [03:07] !paste [03:07] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:08] TJ-: 'text' goes to lightdm [03:08] i can see on the screen '(A) Connected Profile 1' [03:08] pleasehelp: then that isn't using Upstart. The upstart /etc/init/lightdm.conf script looks for 'text' and stops if it finds it [03:09] pleasehelp: not sure where that comes from; sounds like a Bluetooth device :) [03:10] bios and Windows both detect 4g ram, so I don't think it's a bad ram stick. Windows still stuck but at a screen it's never stuck before.. hd light still going so I'm going to wait a few more minutes [03:11] Sterist: good idea... it may be doing a file-system check [03:11] negative, it says when doing a check and it's past the stage it'd normally do that [03:13] Hello, my daughter is learning Japanese and using lbuntu on an older laptop. How can she enter Kanji characters? Etc. I tried adding a Japanese "Keyboard Input" for her. Pressing "Super Space" key sequence shows "JP and US" in a nice dialog on the screen. However regardless of how the input is toggled, Kanji char input sequences do NOT output Kanji chars. Any advice? [03:13] ok I'm going to force it off [03:13] TJ-: this time in initrd I got invalid max DP link bw val 0, using 1.62Gps [03:14] but no freeze [03:14] TJ: maybe i can force a frame buffer device instead of my i915 ? [03:15] pleasehelp: AHA, that is from the Intel i915 driver [03:15] i haven't upgraded it rencently though [03:15] pleasehelp: that is only a WARN though, not fatal at that point [03:15] yes [03:16] Is this mostly an install ubuntu help channel? [03:16] sewardrobert: All Ubuntu support, but there isn't any guarantee that someone knows about your issue [03:17] oops [03:17] Sure. Sure. Most of the conversation seems to be centered on hardware related issues. [03:17] sewardrobert: it depends on who's in and what's being asked :) [03:19] http://imgur.com/qWhcagC [03:20] Sterist: Ouch, that looks bad. [03:20] it starts around process 100 and keeps killing til around 445 then hangs [03:22] Sterist: so we need to try and get in early and prevent that. Do what I suggested for pleasehelp. Reboot, get to the GRUB menu, but this time highlight the first Ubuntu entry, press 'E' to edit it, navigate to the line starting "linux ...", remove "quiet splash" and add "debug init=/bin/bash" then press Ctrl+X to boot with that change. [03:22] Sterist: the idea is that instead of booting with the init daemon starting, we start with bash shell only [03:23] Sterist: It might give us enough to fix GRUB, and identify the cause of the OOMs [03:24] TJ-: actually i can boot my 3.16 kernel [03:26] hi all, getting a fopen: permission denied when running 'crontab -l'. No /etc/cron.allow or /etc/cron.deny, so I should be able to use crontab as my regular user. Permissions on /var/spool/cron/crontabs --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12720522/ [03:26] sewardrobert: you probably want to use the anthy or mozc input method (I use mozc myself lately), see for instance: http://moritzmolch.com/1453 [03:27] is quiet splash only going to appear one time in the list [03:28] TJ-: removed docker.io cgroup-lite apparmor [03:28] and there are many references to msdos4, change to 3? [03:28] updated initramfs et voila [03:29] Sterist: yes, change msdos4 to msdos3. There will only be 1 instance of "quiet splash" [03:29] TJ-: maybe it was cgroup-lite messing with udev , I'll never know [03:29] pleasehelp: It was a nasty one [03:29] bazhang: what [03:30] there were 3 references to msdos4 [03:30] TJ-: using crypto + zfs with unstable kernel 4.1.6 does not help [03:31] 4 actually [03:36] TJ-: thanks for you help, glad here's people like you helping [03:38]