[00:03] <bluesabre> flocculant: thanks
[00:04] <flocculant> np 
[00:06] <flocculant> jjfrv8 left his hw info on there 
[10:52] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok did some more testing - pavucontrol issue not seeing that on laptop, nor desktop in previous releases. So only see that in wily on this machine.
[10:53] <flocculant> the vbox power thing - see that in 15.04 but not Ubuntu unfortunately 
[11:25] <bluesabre> morning all
[11:25] <bluesabre> slickymaster, Unit193, knome: is this an issue? 
[11:25] <bluesabre> warning: failed to load external entity "C/translator-credits.xml"
[11:25] <bluesabre> warning: failed to load external entity "C/translators.xml"
[11:30] <flocculant> morning bluesabre 
[11:30] <bluesabre> morning flocculant 
[11:31] <bluesabre> so pavucontrol is not a consistent issue... seemingly hardware specific
[11:31] <bluesabre> (on wily)
[11:31] <flocculant> looking that way 
[11:31] <flocculant> well 
[11:31] <flocculant> I don't see it with the same hardware on previous releases
[11:32] <bluesabre> right
[11:32] <bluesabre> thats why I added the (on wily)
[11:32] <bluesabre> :D
[11:32] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[11:32] <flocculant> yep - that sums it up then :)
[11:33] <bluesabre> things like that are a pain to test... but if we can get it to show on ubuntu, we can hand it off to them or blame the kernel :D
[11:34] <flocculant> yea that was my hope :D
[11:35] <flocculant> it's certainly going to end up with a xubuntu-exp XX tag on it :p
[11:35] <bluesabre> :D
[11:36] <flocculant> I'd say it's probably one of those we can hope to see other people finding - might help to narrow it down a bit 
[11:41] <flocculant> well it didn't miraculously disappear with a new kernel :p
[11:41] <slickymasterWork> no bluesabre, that's not an issue
[11:42] <slickymasterWork> that was a sort of a workaround knome came up with
[11:56] <bluesabre> slickymasterWork: good to head, will upload in a few minutes
[11:56] <bluesabre> s/head/hear/
[11:56] <SwissBot> bluesabre meant: "slickymasterWork: good to hear, will upload in a few minutes"
[11:56] <slickymasterWork> thanks bluesabre 
[11:57] <slickymasterWork> and I did get that sutpid SwissBot 
[11:57] <slickymasterWork> s/sutpid/stupid 
[12:02] <bluesabre> knome, slickymasterWork: if you guys want to merge the updated changelog back in, https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/xubuntu-docs/15.10.1/+merge/273970
[13:07] <slickymasterWork> bluesabre, unable to do it here (behind a proxy) but I'll do it later on, at home
[19:48] <knome> bluesabre, slickymaster: not really even a workaround, that's how it's documented
[19:48] <knome> bluesabre, we have an empty fallback so it's just a warning; if we didn't have the fallback, it would be an error and the compiling would stop at that
[21:19] <flocculant> thunar appears to be causing some problems of late 
[21:19] <flocculant> crashing when copying, changing folder path all a bit random 
[21:20] <drc> yup...been there couldn't do that 'cause it crashed.
[21:24] <flocculant> slow to see changes in folders too 
[21:31] <drc> Anyone else have troubles burning a Daily USB today? Tried 5 times (with 3 different ISO images and all md5sums checked out) today with DD...checked media on usb boot and always came up with 1 error.  In the middle I tried a LM iso and it worked fine.  Finally tried unetboot and voila...all was well.
[21:32] <flocculant> don't actually burn daily - tend to vm them 
[21:32] <drc> Gee...it must be nice to have modern hardware :)
[21:32] <flocculant> :D
[21:33] <Unit193> As close to hardware as they get is grml-rescueboot.
[21:45] <ochosi> knome, Unit193: so what was the outcome of the discussion regarding -core? (in a nutshell)
[21:48] <knome> ochosi, slangasek would rather see us do two ISOs under the same product
[21:48] <ochosi> right, that's what he suggested before i took off
[21:48] <knome> ochosi, the convention with the naming is currently to have "desktop" and "dvd" named versions
[21:48] <ochosi> i don't see any downsides to that, apart from the naming
[21:49] <ochosi> which is highly misleading in our case
[21:49] <knome> ochosi, but he said we can propose a different naming scheme, as long as we did the changes to the script
[21:49] <knome> ochosi, and that he wouldn't veto it, so was generally not negative about us wanting something else
[21:49] <knome> and that's pretty much the whole thing
[21:51] <knome> it makes sense to me to put them under the same product
[22:02] <ochosi> knome: yeah, does
[22:02] <ochosi> Unit193: any thoughts on this from your side?
[22:17] <Unit193> ochosi: https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu-core/+merge/268167
[22:19] <ochosi> Unit193: looks good
[22:19] <ochosi> krytarik: care to ask slangasek for another review?
[22:21] <krytarik> ochosi: Some yet another guy popping up all of sudden? I'd rather any of you do. :D
[22:21] <ochosi> since i'm not the author of the MR i can't do anything there
[22:21] <Unit193> FWIW, ochosi and knome have done the most talking to him.
[22:21] <ochosi> so actually maybe only Unit193 can do that
[22:22] <knome> sigh
[22:23] <knome> just join #ubuntu-devel and poke him.
[22:23] <knome> krytarik, please even join so we can direct questions at you if needed
[22:24] <krytarik> Alright.
[22:24] <knome> thanks
[22:24] <Unit193> Thanks, knome.
[22:25] <knome> np
[22:25] <Unit193> Sadly, this time I'm not literally walking out the door, so no good excuse. :P
[22:25] <krytarik> But I have - making dinner. :D
[22:46] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:48] <Unit193> Howdy.
[22:50] <bluesabre> hi Unit193 
[22:55] <knome> heya seany
[23:00] <bluesabre> hey gnome
[23:00] <knome> :Ð