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ubernoobhi. trying to install grub-cusomizer in kubuntu 15.10 but getting this error, not sure what to do.. tried to install said packages and its a no go.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12729231/00:06
ubernoobjust wanting to remove a bunch of menu entries so there are only 200:07
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ubernoobim actually using burg but i think burg relies on the grub list00:11
sigilbaram_https://paste.debian.net/315221/00:11
sigilbaram_oops00:11
sigilbaram_that was for #grub00:11
ubernoobyeah basically i want to remove entries from my burg list so theres only 200:13
ubernoobalso (unrelated) i would like to remove the instant messanger icon in the tray but i can't figure out that either :p00:15
ubernoobdisregard that last post00:15
ubernoobokay, i've found the file containing the burg menu entries, /boot/burg/burg.cfg. do i just simply put a # before the lines i wish to remove?00:27
ubernoobhmm.. it says not to edit the file right at the top of it lol.00:29
karlozhola00:36
ubernoobhola, buenas noches.00:37
karlozbuenas noches, acabo de insalar kubuntu 15.04 plasma00:38
ubernoobwell, i'm going to the store.. if anyone knows how to remove entries from the burg bootloader menu, kubuntu 15.10, please let me know, i will check back shortly!00:38
JosuGubernoob: try "sudo nano /etc/default/burg". It should show the contents of the file and how to edit it. I dont use burg, so I don't know if it will work.00:38
karlozlo instale desde usb creada con UUI00:39
ubernoobthanks josuG00:39
JosuGNo problem.00:40
ubernoobis there a spanish kubuntu channel?00:41
JosuGubernoob, karloz: let me check...00:43
JosuGNo, but there should be.00:45
mparilloNo, but maybe they hang out on the spanish ubuntu channel?01:17
mparillo!es01:17
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.01:17
th3pun15h3rSo has anyone had luck installing plasma 5.4 with kubuntu 14.04?04:10
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th3s3_3y3s_ there a gui tool to look at LVM maps?10:35
th3s3_3y3s_Disks used to do it. With the update it looks like not so anymore.10:35
lordievaderLVM maps?10:36
th3s3_3y3s_Like a partition.10:36
lordievaderDo you mean some utility to graphically display pvdisplay -m output?10:37
th3s3_3y3s_It really isn't a partition.10:37
th3s3_3y3s_I want to resize the swap file and I used LVM this time.10:37
th3s3_3y3s_There were some difficulties moving things around using real partitions.10:37
th3s3_3y3s_With the newer drives they do what LVM does anyway.10:38
th3s3_3y3s_So it is hard to partition.10:38
lordievaderI don't understand the problem. LVM supports live moving of data.10:38
th3s3_3y3s_Sure some GUI tool to resize the swap .10:39
th3s3_3y3s_I want to enable hibernation and the default install only made a 4GB swap.10:39
lordievaderHmm, I'd just remove it and make a new one. If your are using lvm there is no reason not to just remove it.10:42
FOADHi.10:53
FOADWhen I boot up my computer, I get a low-res graphical screen where I can enter my password, but then after a second it returns to that screen. I can get a little bit farther if I log in as a guest.10:54
lordievadero/10:54
FOADEverything used to be fine.10:55
FOADWhat could be the cause?10:55
lordievaderFOAD: It could be that the rights to your home-dir are incorrect.10:55
BluesKajHiyas all10:55
FOADBut when I login from the command prompt everything seems okay.10:55
FOADI should note that the resolution of the graphical screen is all wrong, I have 2 HD screens that used to display fine, now I get a small image on just the left screen.10:56
lordievaderFOAD: Check the permissions on your home-dir.10:56
FOADdrwxrwxr-x foad foad10:58
lordievaderFOAD: Just to be sure I'd run a 'chown <username>:<username> -R /home/<username>' and a 'chmod 700 -R /home/<username>'.11:00
JunkHunkhello is there a new way to turn kubuntu into macbuntu? this page looks like outdated: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php11:01
lordievaderFOAD: Also is the kernel parameter 'nomodeset' set?11:02
FOADOkay, I did those, got a bunch of not-permitted on stuff like .cpan.11:02
FOADI don't know, how do I check that.11:02
lordievaderFOAD: Right, run the commands then with sudo. (This does point to incorrect permission by the by ;) ) For the kernel parameters see /proc/cmdline11:03
BluesKajJunkHunk, think about it , do you really think you'll get much help with that request?11:04
FOADOkay.11:04
FOADlordievader: nothing about nomodeset in /proc/cmdline11:05
lordievaderFOAD: Okay, good.11:05
FOADOkay.11:06
FOADNow what? :)11:06
lordievaderFOAD: Did you fix the permissions?11:07
FOADYes.11:07
lordievaderFOAD: Try to log in graphically.11:07
FOADOkay, as far as I know that means rebooting. Or is there another option?11:08
lordievaderFOAD: Switch to lightdm/sddm and log in?11:09
lordievaderNo need to reboot.11:09
FOADOkay wow, at least that gets me in.11:11
FOADResolution is still all wrong though.11:11
JunkHunkBluesKaj,  I already successfully install noobslab's macbuntu on an ubuntu 14.04 but I don't really know how to do it on a Kubuntu system...and that web page is the only acceptable thread I found about that subject...I was just looking for someone who already did it..11:12
lordievaderFOAD: What graphics card and driver do you use?11:12
FOADEr..11:12
FOADSome nvidia thing... :/11:12
lordievaderFOAD: lspci -k|grep -A311:13
lordievaderFOAD: lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA11:13
FOADGeforce GT 640.11:13
FOADKernel driver in use: nvidia.11:14
lordievaderFOAD: What version of Kubuntu are you using?11:15
BluesKajJunkHunk, unless there's an available theme that mimic's the mac "look" then trying to get help here is pointless11:16
FOADHow do I check?  I think it's 2 years old.11:16
lordievaderFOAD: lsb_release -a11:17
FOAD14.0411:17
lordievaderBluesKaj: Could you assist FOAD, you know much more about nVidia hardware than I do.11:18
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th3s3_3y3s_lordievader, I shall have to resize the root partition which uses what space remains after the 4GB.11:19
BluesKajFOAD, lordievader yes , but I don't use multiple monitors11:19
FOADThank you.11:19
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Why? Aren't you using lvm?11:19
Guest34807hello :)  For the last few weeks I can't shutdown my system from "leave -> shutdown on the KDE menu, or by right clicking on the desktop and selecting it.  Anyone else having this issue?11:20
FOADDo you think there'd be any point in rebooting now, just to see how things stand?11:20
th3s3_3y3s_lordievader, Yes, the system is using lvm.11:21
th3s3_3y3s_In gnome-disks it only shows as a large lvm partition11:22
BluesKajFOAD, try, it might help11:22
FOADI will do that and then come back here.11:22
FOADThanks so far!11:22
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: So put your swap on an lvm partition?11:23
th3s3_3y3s_lordievader, The swap is on lvm, I want to resize it.11:24
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: I already told you how I would do that... What you can also do is extend the logical volume and recreate the swap filesystem.11:25
FOADHi.11:25
FOADWell, I can log in to the graphical desktop right away now, but the screen resolution is all wrong.11:26
FOADI looked at the "display settings" and it will only give me the option for a single screen 640x480.11:26
th3s3_3y3s_no the root needs to be resized11:27
BluesKajFOAD, what type of connection to the monitors?11:27
th3s3_3y3s_does gparted work with lvm?11:27
BluesKajth3s3_3y3s_, it should11:29
FOADDVI.11:29
th3s3_3y3s_internally11:29
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: I don't understand your situation. Could you pastebin the output of pvdisplay -m of all the physical volumes?11:29
th3s3_3y3s_internally? something more than what gnome-disks only showing the LVM as a whole.11:30
BluesKajth3s3_3y3s_, I thought one of the features of lvm was resizing on the fly11:30
lordievaderBluesKaj: It is. Along with moving data from one disk to another live.11:31
lordievaderLive reducing is still not a thing though.11:31
BluesKajFOAD, let's check which nvidia driver you have,  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A311:32
FOAD01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GT 640] [10de:0fc1] (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:83f9] Kernel driver in use: nvidia11:33
FOAD01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller [10de:0e1b] (rev a1)11:33
th3s3_3y3s_lordievader, Yes, Here is the queried output https://paste.kde.org/puwvuu6hw/bbafyk11:35
BluesKajFOAD, so you installed the recommended driver in driver manager?11:35
AntisoundHello Ladies and Gentlemen11:35
FOADBluesKaj: everything worked until a day ago, when I had to reboot and things turned to this.11:36
Antisoundi really love to use kubuntu but now i've a serious question! U can read a lot about the future of kubuntu,... is there an offical statement how about the future of kubuntu?11:36
osirishi guys !  how can i view in calendar the holidays. using k 15.0411:36
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: It is protected?11:37
th3s3_3y3s_BluesKaj, It can do it but there is no garuntee the data will retain as it doesn't do defrag.11:37
FOADBluesKaj: I am quite lost...11:37
BluesKajth3s3_3y3s_, this isn't windows.no defrag needed11:38
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Ext filesystems defrag themselves.11:38
osirislike in k 14.11:38
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Anyhow, I cannot see your paste as I do not have the passcode.11:38
th3s3_3y3s_If the data is at the end of the disk and pvresize sets the limits earlier its gone and doing so on root means the entire system gets junked11:38
BluesKajFOAD, ok. have you updated and upgraded lately?11:39
FOADI'm on 14.04...11:39
th3s3_3y3s_lordievader, pls see privmsg containing the passcode11:39
AntisoundNo offical statement?11:39
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: That is why your resize the filesystem first.11:39
th3s3_3y3s_lordievader, What handles resizing lv's?11:39
BluesKajyes  FOAD I use 14.04 as well, and an upgrade came down yesterday11:40
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Ah, now I understand. This is why I never make lv's larger than they need to be.11:40
FOADI did the update/upgrade thing this morning.11:40
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Resize your root-fs to somewhat larger than is used. Then resize the lv to the same size. Enlarge swap, recreate the swap filesystem en voila.11:41
BluesKajFOAD, have you done a dist-upgrade?11:41
th3s3_3y3s_This is why I chose LVM for better resizing doing so with real partitions created some discrepencies in the MBR and things started getting ugly.11:41
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Filesystem: resize2fs, logical volume: lvresize11:41
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Anyhow as this is your rootfs this cannot be done live.11:41
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Boot a live-cd or something resize from there.11:42
th3s3_3y3s_Yes I have the install cd which boots with the added gparted.11:42
FOADYes; "no packages will be installed", etc.11:42
th3s3_3y3s_So if it cannot be done live then testing out the package kvpm is going to be useless.11:42
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: You can live extend not reduce. So if you keep lv's the bare minimum you can allways extend them if they need more.11:43
th3s3_3y3s_Does gparted properly handle the filesystem resize then lv resize?11:43
th3s3_3y3s_I do not want to resize the pv.11:43
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: I never use gui tools to do disk things.11:43
th3s3_3y3s_Oracle linux come with something that did ok.11:44
th3s3_3y3s_Looked like something made by an UCLA student.11:44
BluesKajFOAD, can get proper res with just oner monitor11:44
th3s3_3y3s_There was some confusion with the term physical volume.11:45
th3s3_3y3s_As it really isn't used in the way intended.11:45
FOADNo, I cannot choose any other resolution.11:45
th3s3_3y3s_Physical Volume is a partition.11:45
th3s3_3y3s_And not a physical volume.11:45
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: The terminology is quite sane, a physical volume is a physical volume.11:46
th3s3_3y3s_No it is a partition on a physical volume.11:46
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: A pv can easily be a disk, no need for partitions.11:46
th3s3_3y3s_There is still a boot partition.11:46
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: In your case...11:46
th3s3_3y3s_I work with th3s3_3y3s_ a lot.11:47
th3s3_3y3s_What 2 step does the disk need now?11:48
lordievaderWhat?11:48
BluesKajFOAD, check sysem settings>driver manager again to see which drivers are available11:48
th3s3_3y3s_I am going to move the boot partition to an sdcard so calling it a physical volume is valid.11:49
th3s3_3y3s_gparted can do it just fine.11:49
FOADHm, it is using 340.93 but it also has 346.96 available, which it says is recommended...11:50
th3s3_3y3s_So mounting it with Disks and then running resize2fs and lvresize11:50
th3s3_3y3s_What about expanding the pv after moving the boot partition?11:50
BluesKajuse the recommended 346, FOAD11:51
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: I'm confused...11:51
FOADOkay.11:51
th3s3_3y3s_pv = physical volume aka LVM partition, lv = logical partition aka "map" then there is the filesystem.11:52
th3s3_3y3s_this is why you get confused11:52
FOADDone.11:53
th3s3_3y3s_The filesystems werent designed to be on logical or virtual disk spaces11:53
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Yes, because of your own terminology, please stick to the normal terminology.11:53
th3s3_3y3s_The norm causes eras.11:53
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: And I am confused because I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish.11:53
th3s3_3y3s_Make a bigger swap space to enable hibernation.11:54
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: I already told you how to do that...11:54
BluesKajFOAD, reboot11:54
th3s3_3y3s_If I were to have used encrypted LVM the confusion gets greater and the filesystem becomes junk.11:54
FOADOkay.11:54
FOADBRB.11:54
th3s3_3y3s_It works though. And with prelinking makes quite a dream.11:54
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: No it doesnt...11:54
th3s3_3y3s_Sure if you want data that is not veritas.11:55
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: I use luks and lvm, no problem.11:56
th3s3_3y3s_And youve tested all data to write perfectly and retain?11:57
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: Well, I'm not reading garbage.11:57
FOADI rebooted; sadly there is no change in resolution; Display and Monitor does not offer any more alternatives than before.11:57
BluesKajFOAD, run nvidia-xconfig in the terminal11:58
FOADI only have nvidia-detector and nvidia-settings.11:59
th3s3_3y3s_lordievader, Sure I'm typing.11:59
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s_: What? What are you talking about...12:00
th3s3_3y3s_What you are reading.12:00
* lordievader is getting more and more confused with this conversation12:00
BluesKajFOAD, let me switch to 14.04 ...I'll bb in a min12:01
FOADRe BluesKaj.12:04
th3s3_3y3s_lordievader, The confusion that comes when confronted with veritas is due to unsafe presumptions.12:06
BluesKajFOAD, do you have nvidia-xserver-settings in kmenu>apps>settings?12:06
FOADYes.12:07
FOADStarted it.12:07
Antisoundcan nobody tell me how it's going on in the future with kubuntu?12:08
lordievaderAntisound: I believe it is still rather uncertain.12:09
BluesKajFOAD, ok, in xserver dispaly configurations , click on "detect displays"12:09
Antisoundlordievader: thats an answer anyway ;-)12:09
FOAD...I do not have that option. :(12:09
FOADJust "Application Profiles" and "nvidia-settings Configuration".12:10
BluesKajAntisound, 16.04 is in the works12:10
BluesKaj15.10 is almost ready12:10
AntisoundBluesKaj: ok but because of all the internal differences in the team, i want to know about the more far future ;-)12:10
lordievaderThere ain't a trello board for 16.04 yet.12:11
BluesKajAntisound, afaik  Blue Systems will continue to support Kubuntu, but the confusion around the personell on the kubuntu council and it's relationship with the ubuntu council and canonical is still very cloudy.12:14
AntisoundBluesKaj: but that blue systems will support it in the future is save... and the developement?12:15
BluesKajdevelopment is the still upin the air personell wise12:15
BluesKajerr personnel12:16
Antisoundok12:17
Antisoundthan lets have a look12:17
Antisoundthx for the information12:17
FOADAny more ideas, BluesKaj?12:21
BluesKajFOAD, you don't have these options like I have here ? http://imagebin.ca/v/2IYtCSGBy7Qo12:23
FOADI do not, just the bottom 2 lines.12:24
FOADI also appear not to have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.12:24
BluesKajFOAD, did you run the command I posted earleir , sudo nvidia-xconfig12:29
BluesKaj?12:29
FOADsudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found12:29
BluesKajFOAD, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file anymore by default on kubuntu12:30
FOADOh.12:30
BluesKajFOAD, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras and mesa-utils12:33
FOADYes and no.  Just installed mesa-utils.12:34
FOADStill no nvidia-xconfig.12:34
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BluesKajFOAD, which kernel are you running ? do uname  -a in the terminal12:36
FOADLinux diana 3.13.0-65-generic #106-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 2 22:08:27 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux12:37
BluesKajaha, the latest is 3.16.0-50-generic  FOAD12:38
FOADOkay..12:39
FOADThe latest what?12:39
BluesKajkerenel12:40
BluesKajkernel even12:40
FOADOkay.  So what would the next step be?12:40
BluesKajmake sure you have the backports enabled in your sources.list FOAD12:40
FOADdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-backports main restricted universe m12:41
BluesKajthen run sudo apt dist-upgrade...linux diana, what's that?12:41
FOADultiverse12:41
lordievader!info linux-image-generic trusty12:41
FOADdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse12:41
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.65.71 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 29 kB12:41
lordievaderFOAD, BluesKaj: He has the latest kernel.12:41
FOADdiana is my pc.12:41
lordievader!info linux-image-generic trusty-updates12:42
ubottu'trusty-updates' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed12:42
lordievader!info linux-image-generic trusty-backports12:42
ubottuPackage linux-image-generic does not exist in trusty-backports12:42
BluesKajodd, because mine is the 3.16.0-50-generic12:42
lordievaderFOAD, likely doesn't have the HWE enabled.12:42
lordievader!hwe12:42
ubottuOn August 7, 2014, Ubuntu 12.04.5 will deliver the kernel and graphics stack from 14.04. At that time, security updates and bug fixes for older hardware enablement stacks will cease. Users of older hardware enablement stacks are encouraged to update to the 12.04.5 hardware enablement stack or upgrade to 14.04. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL for further details.12:42
lordievaderThat is outdated information...12:43
BluesKaj!info linux-generic trusty12:44
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.65.71 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB12:44
lordievader!info linux-image-generic-lts-vivid trusty12:44
ubottulinux-image-generic-lts-vivid (source: linux-meta-lts-vivid): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.19.0.30.17 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc)12:44
FOADThe whatnow.12:45
lordievaderWould be the latest... Not really necessary unless there is a kernel feature you really need.12:45
BluesKaj!info linux-generic trusty-backports12:45
ubottuPackage linux-generic does not exist in trusty-backports12:45
BluesKajhmm12:46
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BluesKajwell, his nvidia settings app isn't the full version ...thinking some of the nvidia kernel modules are missing12:47
FOADOkay.12:51
FOADHow do I get them back, or something?12:51
BluesKajlordievader, should he install 3.16.0-50-generic. I'm not clear on that ?12:52
BluesKajFOAD, make sure you have dkms installed first12:54
FOAD"dkms is already the newest version."12:54
BluesKajFOAD, I have to check something ...bbiab12:57
FOADOkay.12:57
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BluesKajFOAD, install 3.16.0-50-generic ,if you want the low latency kernel install 3.16.0-5013:02
FOADsudo apt-get install 3.16.0-50-generic?13:03
FOADsudo apt-get install linux-image-3.16.0-50-generic?13:04
FOADIs that it?13:05
BluesKajFOAD, yes13:07
FOADOkay.13:07
FOADDone.13:08
BluesKajokupdate and upgrade13:10
FOADOkay.13:12
lordievaderNo, I wouldn't install 3.16/3.19 unless he is missing some crucial kernel function. But I don't think he does.13:17
BluesKajFOAD, after that, reboot toi see if the missing modules load with this kernel13:17
BluesKajlordievader, too late13:18
FOADEh.13:18
lordievaderAlso it is better to install the meta package than the actual versioned package.13:18
lordievader!info linux-image-generic-lts-utopic trusty13:19
ubottulinux-image-generic-lts-utopic (source: linux-meta-lts-utopic): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.0.50.41 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc)13:19
lordievader^ that one, in this case.13:19
FOADShould I install that?13:19
lordievaderI'd purge the 3.16 kernel first then install that meta package. Else the versioned package will never be removed by apt's autoremove.13:22
FOADOkay.13:23
FOADRebooting now.13:25
FOADRe.13:28
FOADOkay.13:28
FOADNow what..13:28
FOADI still do not have an nvidia-xconfig.13:38
BluesKajFOAD, check kmenu>apps>settings>nvidia-xserver13:43
FOADSame as before.13:44
XavierSalut =13:51
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lordievaderFOAD: I'd reinstall the nvidia driver and see if you have the nvidia-xconfig utility then.13:51
Guest92927Question13:51
Guest92927Kubuntu utilise quel bureau ? LXDE ou KDE ?13:52
lordievader!fr | Guest9292713:52
ubottuGuest92927: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:52
Guest92927Kontact a l'air super13:52
FOADOkay.13:54
FOADWhat is the difference between nvidia-346 and nvidia-346-updates?13:56
Guest92927Question: Is Kubuntu using KDE or LXDE ?13:56
FOADI picked nvidia-346.13:57
FOADGuess I should reboot again?13:57
lordievaderGuest92927: KDE, hence the K in Kubuntu.13:59
lordievader!info nvidia-346 trusty13:59
ubottunvidia-346 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-346): NVIDIA binary driver - version 346.96. In component restricted, is optional. Version 346.96-0ubuntu0.0.1 (trusty), package size 31146 kB, installed size 142458 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf)13:59
lordievader!info nvidia-346-updates trusty14:00
ubottunvidia-346-updates (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-346-updates): NVIDIA binary driver - version 346.96. In component restricted, is optional. Version 346.96-0ubuntu0.0.1 (trusty), package size 31143 kB, installed size 142459 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf)14:00
lordievaderFOAD: There doesn't seem to be any difference between the two.14:00
FOADOkay.  Reboot?14:00
BluesKajlordievader, the 346 driver, not the updates14:01
lordievaderBluesKaj: What?14:01
BluesKajthere is a difference, the updates driver tends to fail IME14:03
BluesKajthe recommended driver is more stable...the  updates is early adoption of  changes to that particular driver, hence less stable14:06
FOADNo nvidia-xconfig.14:07
BluesKajyes, but do you have more options now in the nvidia settings gui14:08
FOADNo.14:10
BluesKajrun uname -r again14:12
FOAD3.16.0-50-generic14:13
BluesKajthat's weird , open system settings>desktop effects>advanced tab> composting type and Qt graphics system ...what settings do have there?14:16
BluesKajFOAD,^14:17
FOADXRender and Native.14:17
th3s3_3y3s_What is your end goal?14:18
BluesKajset them to OpenGL 3.1 and raster14:18
FOADOkay.14:19
FOAD"3 Desktop effects could not be loaded."  They require OpenGL..14:20
BluesKajin satll mesa and mesa-utils14:20
BluesKajinstall14:20
FOADUnable to locate package mesa14:21
BluesKajthat's odd, mesa-utils must be the whole package now14:23
FOADThat one I already installed.14:23
BluesKajFOAD, install libqt4-opengl and nvidia-settings14:27
lordievaderOeh, nvidia-xconfig is probably in that package.14:28
FOADAlready have those installed.14:28
lordievaderHmm14:28
BluesKajmakes no sense that there's no opengl option, how old is this nvidia card FOAD ?14:31
FOADA few years old.  Maybe 3.14:32
FOADEverything used to work fine.14:32
lordievaderFOAD: Since when does it not work anymore? What changed?14:33
FOADSince Wednesday.  I rebooted for the first time in a while.14:33
lordievaderFOAD: What updates were installed Tuesday/Wednesday?14:33
FOADAnd since amazingly my internet connection stopped working the same day I couldn't ask about this before today.  That was fun.14:34
lordievader /var/log/apt/history.log ;)14:34
FOADNothing there from before today.14:34
lordievaderThat is really strange.14:35
lordievaderDoes a new account have the same problem?14:35
FOADI don't know.14:35
lordievaderFOAD: Create a new user and try ;)14:35
FOADOkay.  BRB.14:36
FOADDoesn't make any difference.14:41
lordievaderHmm, could you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?14:42
FOADSure.14:42
BluesKajwhat could be missing there lordievader?14:43
lordievaderNo idea.14:43
BluesKajthis makes no sense , the default nvidia settings should include OpenGL in system settings..it's like his install is only partial14:45
FOADhttp://pastebin.com/uy3GmbS714:46
FOADBut the nvidia driver isn't active at all if I understand http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/ correctly.14:47
lordievaderFOAD: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA'?14:47
FOAD01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GT 640] (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 83f914:47
FOAD01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 83f914:47
lordievaderIs that the full output?14:49
FOADYes.14:50
lordievaderWell there is the problem. The driver ain't loaded.14:50
FOADOkay.14:50
lordievaderFOAD: Please pastebin your dmesg log.14:50
FOADhttp://pastebin.com/CjM3pLPC14:53
lordievaderIs this a hybrid system?14:55
FOADA what now.14:55
lordievaderFOAD: Two graphics cards, one integraded and one dedicated. "init: nvidia-prime main process (1285) terminated with status 127"14:57
lordievaderBluesKaj: The nvidia driver ain't loaded.14:58
FOADI... don't know.  I just use the thing. :/14:58
lordievaderFOAD: What happens when you run 'sudo modprobe nvidia' (after stopping lightdm)14:59
FOADFATAL: Module nvidia not found.15:00
lordievaderHehe... How did you reinstall the nvidia package?15:00
FOADsudo apt-get something.15:01
lordievaderFOAD: Could you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia'?15:01
BluesKajFOAD, no you were supposed to use the driver manager to install the recommended nvidia driver15:03
FOADOkay.  Sorry.15:03
FOADNow what.15:03
lordievaderFOAD: Could you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia'?15:04
FOADYes, after reboot.  BRB.15:04
lordievaderWhy reboot?15:04
FOADsudo -i reboot15:04
FOADBecause I am confused and messed up, okay.15:04
FOADlordievader: http://pastebin.com/VrQhtgpk15:07
lordievaderFOAD: Ok, run 'dpkg -l|grep tcpdump|awk '{print $2}'|xargs sudo apt-get purge'15:09
lordievaderFOAD: Ok, run "dpkg -l|grep tcpdump|awk '{print $2}'|xargs sudo apt-get purge"*15:10
FOADEh.15:11
FOADThe following packages will be REMOVED: tcpdump*15:11
FOAD0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.15:11
FOADAfter this operation, 1,124 kB disk space will be freed.15:11
FOADDo you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort.15:11
FOADIt aborts without any interaction on my behalf.15:11
lordievaderErr that 'tcpdump' should be 'nvidia' ;)15:12
FOADI wondered.15:12
lordievaderFOAD: Ok, run "dpkg -l|grep nvidia|awk '{print $2}'|xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"*15:12
FOADOkay.15:12
FOADDone.15:13
lordievaderFOAD: Could you paste the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia' again?15:15
FOADIt returns nothing.15:15
lordievaderFOAD: Good :)15:15
lordievaderBluesKaj: It was the 346 right?15:15
BluesKajyes15:16
lordievaderFOAD: sudo apt-get install nvidia-34615:16
BluesKajor he could use the driver manager15:17
lordievaderIt does the same thing.15:17
FOADDone.15:17
lordievaderFOAD: Then reboot.15:17
FOADOkay.15:17
FOADBRB.15:17
FOADRe.15:20
lordievaderFOAD: Any change?15:20
FOADNo.15:20
lordievaderFOAD: 'sudo modprobe nvidia' still fails?15:20
FOADmodprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found.15:21
FOADI'm in lightdm now if that matters.15:21
lordievaderHeh, is dkms installed?15:21
FOADI don't know.15:22
lordievaderdpkg -l|grep dkms15:22
FOADii  bbswitch-dkms                               0.7-2ubuntu1                             amd64        Interface for toggling the power on nVidia Optimus video cards15:22
FOADii  dkms                                        2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu5.14.04.5               all          Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework15:22
FOADii  fwts-efi-runtime-dkms                       14.03.01-0ubuntu2                        amd64        Firmware Test Suite UEFI Runtime Service kernel driver15:22
lordievaderIt's installed.15:22
lordievaderI'm wondering if the dkms module failed to install. Do you recall any dkms errors when installing the driver?15:23
FOADNope.15:23
BluesKajdkms was installed previously, he checked15:23
lordievaderThis might be at play: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/769055/dkms-fails-to-compile-nvidia-modules-340-32-343-13-during-kernel-3-16-1-compile-process-on-debia/15:25
lordievaderFOAD: Is build-essential and make installed too?15:26
lordievaderOeh, what is the output of 'dkms status'?15:26
FOADThose are installed.15:28
FOADdkms status15:28
FOADbbswitch, 0.7, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed15:28
FOADfwts-efi-runtime-dkms, 14.03.01, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed15:28
FOADnvidia-346, 346.96: added15:28
FOADvboxhost, 4.2.26, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed15:28
lordievaderThat added should likely be installed.15:28
FOADThat seems to make sense.15:29
lordievaderI guess 'sudo dkms install nvidia-346'.15:29
FOADError! Invalid number of arguments passed.15:30
FOADUsage: add <module>/<module-version> or add -m <module>/<module-version> or add -m <module> -v <module-version>15:30
BluesKajyah, that's to be aexpected , I got the same output with the 340 driver which is the recommended one for my card15:32
lordievaderBluesKaj: Added state, you mean?15:32
BluesKajno "Error! Invalid number of arguments passed15:33
lordievaderI suppose dpkg would call it aswell, FOAD could you give the output of 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-346'?15:34
BluesKajit rebuilds the modules, corrct, lordievader?15:36
FOADStopping nvidia-persistenced15:36
FOADnvidia-persistenced: no process found15:36
FOADDone.15:36
FOADRemoving all DKMS Modules15:36
FOADDone.15:36
FOADINFO:Enable nvidia-34615:36
FOADDEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/put_your_quirks_here15:36
lordievaderNot exactly, it rebuilds dkms modules.15:36
FOADDEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/lenovo_thinkpad15:36
FOADDEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/dell_latitude15:36
lordievader!paste | FOAD15:36
ubottuFOAD: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:36
FOADLoading new nvidia-346-346.96 DKMS files...15:36
FOADBuilding only for 3.16.0-50-generic15:36
FOADBuilding for architecture x86_6415:36
FOADModule build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the15:36
FOADkernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.15:36
FOADSorry.15:36
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lordievaderArch wiki to the rescue. "dkms install -m nvidia -v 334.21 -k $(uname -r)" https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support15:37
lordievaderFOAD: Anyhow what does dkms status say now?15:37
FOADbbswitch, 0.7, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed15:37
FOADbbswitch, 0.7, 3.16.0-50-generic, x86_64: built15:37
FOADfwts-efi-runtime-dkms, 14.03.01, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed15:37
FOADfwts-efi-runtime-dkms, 14.03.01, 3.16.0-50-generic, x86_64: installed15:37
FOADnvidia-346, 346.96: added15:37
FOADvboxhost, 4.2.26, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed15:37
FOADvboxhost, 4.2.26, 3.16.0-50-generic, x86_64: installed15:37
FOADI screwed something up.15:37
lordievaderFOAD: Hmm, run 'sudo dkms -m nvidia -v 346.96 -k $(uname -r)' I guess.15:38
lordievaderAlso provide us with the output ;)15:38
FOADNo output.15:38
lordievaderAny change in the dkms status output?15:39
FOADNo.15:39
lordievaderFOAD: Would it be the initramfs... sudo update-initramfs -uk all15:39
BluesKajlordievader, wonder if the nouveau driver should be blacklisted...never had to but in this case  who knows15:40
FOADsudo update-initramfs -uk all15:40
FOADupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-50-generic15:40
FOADupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-65-generic15:40
lordievaderBluesKaj: It is blacklisted, else that would have been loaded and it isn't.15:41
BluesKajIC15:41
lordievaderFOAD: When you are done reboot.15:41
lordievaderBut speaking of blacklisting... would both have been blacklisted?15:42
lordievaderFOAD: Can you check what is in /etc/modules/blacklist.conf?15:42
lordievaderWhere does nvidia put its nouveau blacklist anyways?15:42
FOAD/etc/modules is a file.15:43
FOADI will reboot now.15:44
lordievaderWait, wut. /etc/modules should be a folder15:47
BluesKajlordievader, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf15:47
FOADRe.15:47
lordievaderOh wait, I'm mixing it up with modprobe.d15:47
lordievaderFOAD: That should have been, what is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf15:47
FOADThere is nothing about nouveau or nvidia in that file.15:47
lordievaderFOAD: Any other files in /etc/modprobe.d?15:48
FOADSure, lots.15:48
lordievadercat /etc/modprobe.d/*15:49
FOADhttp://pastebin.com/1FY0sWVf15:50
BluesKaj /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf has the nouveau driver blacklisted15:50
lordievaderOh what fun, both nouveau and nvidia are blacklisted...15:52
lordievaderFOAD: grep nvidia -Rn /etc/modprobe.d/*15:52
FOADhttp://pastebin.com/Y4jYYJD715:54
lordievaderFOAD: sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf /root && sudo update-initramfs -uk all15:55
* BluesKaj wonders if "blacklist nvidia" blacklists all nvivia drivers, but I don't see the 346 driver listed15:56
FOADOkay.15:57
FOADupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-50-generic15:58
FOADupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-65-generic15:58
FOADIs what it did.15:58
lordievaderFOAD: Good, reboot ;)15:58
FOADBRB.15:58
BluesKajwonder what could have generated this mess, afterall everything was fine up to last week16:00
FOADRe.16:00
lordievaderFOAD: And?16:01
FOADI don't see any difference.16:01
lordievaderHmpf, does 'lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA' show any difference?16:02
FOADNo.16:02
lordievaderdkms status, still lists it as 'added'?16:03
FOADYes.16:04
lordievaderHmpf...16:07
* lordievader is going afk, dinner16:07
FOADOkay.16:07
FOADThanks for the help so far.16:07
BluesKajFOAD, pastebin /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf16:12
FOADNo such file!16:14
FOADI've got a nvidia-346_hybrid.conf if that helps.16:14
BluesKajFOAD, do you have hybrid graphics , intel and nvidia?16:15
FOADI have no idea.  lordievader said something about it too.16:15
FOADBut I don't know.  Sorry.16:16
BluesKajis this a laptop or desktop16:16
FOADDesktop.16:17
BluesKajthen hybrid graphics is unlikely16:17
BluesKajok, pastebin nvidia-346_hybrid.conf16:18
FOADhttp://pastebin.com/Z5KyiVMt16:21
BluesKajFOAD, wonder if you removed nvidia-346 and reinstalled xserver-xorg-video-nouveau16:23
FOADNope.16:23
FOADNot recently at least.16:24
BluesKajwhat I mean is , I wonder if that might work for now 'til we can find the real peoblem16:25
FOADOh okay.16:25
FOADI can do that.16:25
BluesKajgotta go in a few mins...our band has a practice/jam this afternoon16:26
FOADOkay, cool.16:26
FOADHave fun. :)16:26
FOADAnd thanks for the help so far.16:26
BluesKajnp , hope the nouveau driver works for you, it's actually quite good16:27
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lordievaderFOAD: To use the nouveau driver purge any nvidia driver. (And check if there is no blacklist nouveau going on in /etc/modprobe.d)16:52
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nitogenachello everybody :)17:48
nitogenaci have an question17:48
nitogenacwhy when i want to install a new fresh Kubuntu over this, it every time stops at the beggining of Installation saying Creating system files and then just freezes on 33%17:49
nitogenacand it not formaat this partition, and dont touch this version of Kubuntu :s17:50
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driccehelp18:07
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ubernoobmparillo: thats not a bad idea!21:32
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