[00:52] <TechEffigy> hi guys
[00:53] <TechEffigy> ive been having a problem now for 3 days
[00:53] <TechEffigy> ubuntu only showing 1024 4:5 resolution, and my screen in 1280x800
[00:54] <TechEffigy> ive tryd using cvt & xrandr, but it wont work
[00:54] <TechEffigy> when i try add the mode it says, error bad match
[00:58] <Jordan_U> TechEffigy: Resolution problems are usually caused by not having the correct graphics drivers in use. Please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, If you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf please pastebin it also.
[00:59] <TechEffigy> ive downloaded the xserver intel driver
[01:01] <TechEffigy> i nano'd that log
[01:01] <TechEffigy> found something
[01:02] <TechEffigy> says no layout section from config, no monitor specified
[01:02] <TechEffigy> then it loads default device
[01:03] <TechEffigy> then it loads the intel driver
[01:03] <TechEffigy> intel_drv.so
[01:04] <Jordan_U> TechEffigy: What do you mean by "I've downloaded the xserver intel driver"? Intel drivers come installed by default in Ubuntu. And please pastebin those complete files, paraphrasing of bits and pieces isn't very helpful.
[01:04] <TechEffigy> ok i will thanks
[01:05] <Josh0605> hola
[01:08] <TechEffigy> ok
[01:08] <TechEffigy> i pastebinned it to http://pastebin.com/RaDNnxby
[01:09] <TechEffigy> please help
[01:10] <Josh0605> TechEffigy, what is your problem, and current setup?
[01:11] <TechEffigy> my resolution is on 1024x768, my laptop is 1280x800
[01:11] <Josh0605> ok, give me a minute
[01:11] <TechEffigy> theres a big black square on the side of my pc, and pixels are stretching at the bottom of the screen
[01:11] <TechEffigy> its an intel graphics card
[01:12] <Josh0605> could http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 possibly help with the resolution?
[01:14] <TechEffigy> did you see anything in the log?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> TechEffigy: Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:16] <Josh0605> It looks like its trying to pick up the size automatically, but fails, and skips the correct one
[01:16] <TechEffigy> nope
[01:17] <TechEffigy> nothing in that file
[01:17] <Jordan_U> TechEffigy: What do you mean by "I've downloaded the xserver intel driver"? Intel drivers come installed by default in Ubuntu.
[01:17] <Josh0605> that isn't exactly good, ...
[01:17] <TechEffigy> that was my before installation
[01:17] <TechEffigy> now im running a live version
[01:18] <Jordan_U> Josh0605: That is perfectly normal, Ubuntu doesn't have one by default.
[01:18] <TechEffigy> i just apt-get upgrade and it installed xserver-intel
[01:18] <Jordan_U> TechEffigy: OK. Do you have full resolution in the Live environment?
[01:18] <TechEffigy> nope
[01:18] <Josh0605> Oops, I haven't used Ubuntu in a while.
[01:18] <TechEffigy> that log was from the live
[01:18] <Josh0605> Its a laptop, right?
[01:19] <Jordan_U> TechEffigy: Please pastebin the output of "lspic".
[01:19] <TechEffigy> when i installed ubuntu server, the console was also in wrong res
[01:19] <TechEffigy> yip
[01:19] <Jordan_U> TechEffigy: Sorry, type. That should be "lspci".
[01:19] <Josh0605> On another note, does anyone know anything about electronics and IC's?
[01:20] <TechEffigy> i did a lspci | grep VGA
[01:20] <TechEffigy> INTEL Mobile GM965/GL960
[01:20] <rauldipeas> Hey guys, can You help me to run Ajenti on Ubuntu 15.04?
[01:20] <TechEffigy> integrated graphics card
[01:21] <TechEffigy> i dont think its a graphics card problem, its the monitor i think
[01:21] <TechEffigy> i updated my bios aswell
[01:22] <Josh0605> I know this doesnt happen very often, but did you check for a GFX card firmware upgrade??
[01:22] <rockstar_> I'm trying to use mini display port in dell xps 15z (with optimus) to Vizio e40, in Ubuntu. It is not working for me. Anybody help.
[01:22] <TechEffigy> never even knew you could update the graphics firmware
[01:22] <TechEffigy> but nothin on ASUS site of the laptop
[01:23] <Josh0605> Its very rare, but sometimes you have to use something similar to JTAG
[01:23] <TechEffigy> whats i965-va-driver
[01:25] <Josh0605> post the results of lspci -v | less
[01:28] <TechEffigy> how do i output it to a file?
[01:28] <Josh0605> hmm
[01:28] <TechEffigy> lspci -v >> file ???
[01:28] <Josh0605> maybe, havent linuxed in a while...
[01:29] <TechEffigy> got it
[01:30] <TechEffigy> http://pastebin.com/gn8vzrVA
[01:30] <skynetguy> if a game publisher went of out business is a game published by them still under copyright
[01:30] <TechEffigy> check it out
[01:30] <skynetguy> i know this is out of topic
[01:32] <TechEffigy> anything?
[01:32] <Josh0605> try apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel i965-va-driver and then reboot
[01:33] <TechEffigy> ok
[01:33] <TechEffigy> thats what i did last time
[01:33] <TechEffigy> nothing changed
[01:34] <TechEffigy> i just didnt do the i965 one
[01:36] <TechEffigy> had to get dependencies aswell
[01:38] <TechEffigy> says cant locate i965-va-driver
[01:38] <TechEffigy> but the xorg stuff worked
[01:39] <Josh0605> no clue, sorry
[01:42] <TechEffigy> thanks anyhow
[01:42] <TechEffigy> going to try download and install intel graphics installer
[01:46] <infinitybiff> howdy all
[01:46] <infinitybiff> I have a weird thing going on. I have a fresh formatted ext4 drive that I know to be good
[01:47] <infinitybiff> If I add it to mount at boot by manually editing fstab or using the auto mount dialog under "disks" it will hang on boot
[01:47] <infinitybiff> I have to manually remove the entry from fstab with a live USB to fix
[01:47] <infinitybiff> if I add another drive to fstab that is formatted via NTFS I don't have the same issue
[01:49] <Jordan_U> infinitybiff: What is the exact entry added to your /etc/fstab? What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:49] <infinitybiff> using 14.04.3
[01:49] <infinitybiff> give me 2 min for entry. have to recreate
[01:49] <Aikar> anyone know if theres a way to make the desktop/WM ignore multiple GPU's and lock to a single one? I'm trying to capture desktop for live streaming and theres an issue in multiple streaming apps (vlc/obs) that the screen 'tears' where a line runs through giving transparency to the window behind it. From what I've found, this is caused by multiple gpu's. Using nvidia-352
[01:52] <infinitybiff> http://pastebin.com/uvuKAE4p
[01:52] <infinitybiff> the last line there
[01:52] <infinitybiff> created that with ubuntu disk utility
[01:52] <infinitybiff> which is also how the ntfs entry got there
[01:52] <infinitybiff> if I boot without that last entry... works fine
[01:52] <infinitybiff> if add the last entry...boots to black screen before X even starts and just stairs at me
[01:52] <infinitybiff> stares*
[01:54] <OerHeks> infinitybiff, i have an ext4 partition mounted like this > /dev/sdb1 /media/data ext4 defaults 0 2
[01:55] <infinitybiff> maybe is angry that I'm doing it by UUID and hanging
[01:55] <infinitybiff> its just weird that it would hang the boot like that I guess
[01:55] <OerHeks> hmm maybe the part after the UUID is breaking up
[01:55] <infinitybiff> maybe. I thought I was being dumb by adding it myself hence using the disk utility
[01:55] <infinitybiff> and the NTFS one works
[01:56] <infinitybiff> I'll try the dev mount and see if that works though
[01:57] <Jordan_U> infinitybiff: Does the directory /mnt/6d354434-ad8c-43ad-a59f-1a12920a489b exist?
[01:57] <Jordan_U> infinitybiff: Mounting by UUID is the recommended and more reliable way to do this.
[02:00] <Aikar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v45XcIwv0RI  video showing my issue. running 4 GPU's, SLI cards each dual gpu.
[02:07] <cdk_> i am trying to install a driver for my graphics card but it is in .deb format and when i try to open it with the software centre it tells me internal error
[02:07] <Foxhoundz> how do I list hte package with pending updates
[02:08] <Foxhoundz> without installing them
[02:08] <cdk_> how do you list what?
[02:09] <Foxhoundz> the packages
[02:09] <Foxhoundz> with pending updates
[02:09] <Foxhoundz> on apt-get
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Foxhoundz: apt list --upgradable
[02:10] <wileee> you get a yes/no on the upgrade
[02:10] <Foxhoundz> E: Command line option --upgradeable is not understood
[02:11] <Jordan_U> Foxhoundz: Not "apt-get", just "apt".
[02:11] <trism> Foxhoundz: theres no e in the middle
[02:11] <Foxhoundz> my exact command: media@media-server:~$ sudo apt-get list --upgradable
[02:12] <Aikar> take off -get
[02:12] <Jordan_U> Foxhoundz: Copy and paste the exact command I gave you, nothing else is needed.
[02:12] <Foxhoundz> ohh
[02:12] <Foxhoundz> ok that works
[02:14] <jeffrey_f> Question, not necessarily Ubuntu related: I have "many several " zip files.  Each zip has the same filenames (and multiple files too).  I need to extract a single file from each of 300+ zip files.  Any idea on how to do this and keep my sanity??
[02:20] <Jordan_U> jeffrey_f: The unzip commmand has an option to only unzip a list of files (in your case, a list of 1). You can then use a bash for loop to create directories numbered 1..300+ for each of your files, and pass directory N to unzup's -d option for each invocation of unzip. #bash can help you with the details of implementing that, and may also have a solution that doesn't involve making all those intermediate directories ...
[02:20] <Jordan_U> ... (not that fewer than 1,000 directories should really be terribly taxing).
[02:22] <Yuken> May I ask questions about Lubuntu, or is this just support for Ubuntu?
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Yuken: (L)ubuntu is also supported here .
[02:23] <Yuken> Awesome. Well, simple question; what is the absolute minimum size for a Lubuntu install?
[02:24] <natrist> hello! i've got a problem connection to LAN and the internet on ubuntu 15.04
[02:24] <Yuken> Er, actually
[02:24] <Yuken> I should specify better.
[02:24] <Yuken> Absolute minimum size for a Lubunt 14.04 install.
[02:25] <jeffrey_f> Jordan_U: Thanks, I'll ask @ #bash
[02:27] <natrist> where should i go to get help with networking on ubuntu? i can't make my network card work
[02:28] <Bashing-om> Yuken: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements/ >> 512 MiB of system memory (RAM), 5 GB of disk space .
[02:28] <OerHeks> Yuken, 3 gb, and 6 gb for an 'more usable system'  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[02:28] <Yuken> OerHeks, Bashing-om, thanks.
[02:30] <Bashing-om> Yuken: :) long term ya want 30 Gigs as a minimum .
[02:31] <OerHeks> Yuken, this is ubuntu support, so ask, wait and see
[02:33] <kadiro> hello
[02:33] <charco> Hi! I installed ubuntu 15.04 a few days ago on a Asus UX301LA. By default everything looked OK, like windows scaling was OK, but suddenly it stopped working and everything looks so small I can't even see this dialog box.
[02:33] <Yuken> Bashing-om, sadly, only have a 2GB SD card. Figuring out a very minimal Ubuntu install with just Java and a basic LXDE (possibly OpenBox) environment
[02:33] <charco> Then it rolled back after a reboot, and then it rolled back again to the wrong state, and now I am stuck in a small fonts world
[02:34] <charco> what is this, a desktop for ants
[02:34] <Bashing-om> !minimal | Yuken
[02:35] <Yuken> I was thinking about that, but... can't install it to the same SD card it is on.
[02:35] <Yuken> Had 2 partitions and all, Minimal CD couldn't recognize the SD card it was installed on.
[02:36] <natrist> Hello everyone, I have trouble making my network card work on Ubuntu 15.04. It's a Killer Extreme E2205.
[02:40] <Yuken> ... I suppose trhat is a question I should ask, actually. 2 partitions, 100MB and 1.9GB (100MB for Minimal iso), Minimal iso didn't recognize SD card at all
[02:40] <Yuken> Any reason why>
[02:42] <Lotar> hello
[02:42] <Lotar> how are you?
[02:43] <Lotar> how i install games from play on linux
[02:43] <mjayk> Lotar: open play on linux and click install game then follow the instructions
[02:43] <OerHeks> Yuken,  it does not work that way, format that sdcard as Fat32, put the mini iso on it, and use an other card to install ubuntu on it with a lightweight dekstop, like openbox.
[02:44] <Lotar> i doo that but that conect to steam and doesnt work
[02:44] <Yuken> OerHeks, unable to do so.
[02:44] <Yuken> Only one card.
[02:44] <OerHeks> i think 2 gb is too small anyway
[02:46] <mjayk> Lotar: have you tried #playonlinux ? is it a supported game ?
[02:47] <Lotar> yes...but that conect to steam and download dont begin
[02:47] <Lotar> how i get free money from ATM?
[02:47] <mjayk> Lotar: try google
[02:47] <Lotar> ok
[02:48] <OerHeks> You only get free money, when you work for free .. oh wait
[02:48] <OerHeks> this is offtopic
[02:49] <BrillianceisLost> is gutsy the latest release?
[02:49] <natrist> would anyone please help me with my network issues?
[02:49] <mjayk> natrist: if its ubuntu related just ask the question :)
[02:50] <natrist> well, i have installed 15.04 and my e2205 NIC won't work anymore
[02:50] <natrist> i mean it did at some point but now it doesn't work at all
[02:50] <natrist> i can't even connect to my router via LAN
[02:50] <natrist> i have opened up a thread on the ubuntu forums at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2297839
[02:50] <Lotar> :D
[02:51] <Lotar> i work but everyone wants more money form me
[02:51] <mjayk> natrist: bigfoot killer nic ?
[02:51] <natrist> yes
[02:51] <natrist> well the killer extreme e2205
[02:52] <natrist> dunno about the bigfoot part however
[02:53] <mjayk> natrist: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2003542 tried any of that might help
[02:55] <charco> Apparently my problem was flux or redshift
[02:55] <charco> They disabled hidpi scaling somehow :/
[02:57] <natrist> mjayk i'm not really sure what to do with that thread
[03:01] <Lotar> thanks guys have a nice i don't know what :D
[03:03] <abc> ping
[03:06] <et09> are there any rumblings about 16.04 or similar?
[03:07] <james0r> on 15.10. trying to add vietnamese unikey input method. is the input method indicator using ibus?
[03:08] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 james0r
[03:08] <james0r> man ubuntu has got a channel for everything
[03:08] <james0r> bazhang, thx
[03:08] <bazhang> et09, its not even alpha, so no
[03:09] <et09> also, should i comment out all the utopic crap in apt/sources.list, i think it's all 404ing
[03:10] <bazhang> et09, what version are you on now
[03:10] <et09> 14.10
[03:10] <bazhang> !utopic
[03:10] <et09> hmm.. should i just upgrade to 15.10
[03:10] <bazhang> et09, follow the eolupgrades link
[03:11] <bazhang> et09, thats not released til the end of this month
[03:11] <et09> phew tmux is not playing nice with irssi
[03:11] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | et09
[03:11] <et09> oh i see
[03:12] <et09> i thought utopic was 13 for a minute (eye roll)
[03:15] <Berta> why is Bastille no longer available in apt ?
[03:19] <raio> Hi
[03:25] <trism> Berta: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718783
[03:33] <corner> hello
[03:34] <corner> somebody here?
[03:34] <et09> yes
[03:34] <corner> i have problem with my mobile manager
[03:34] <corner> and ppp
[03:35] <corner> they always disconnect every 3.5 minute
[03:35] <corner> somebody can solve that?
[03:39] <et09> can you typically do an upgrade like, 15.10 to 16.04 LTS (when applicable)?
[03:40] <bazhang> sure
[03:40] <bazhang> but you are on 14.10 so do the eolupgrades one
[03:41] <Berta> trism thank you
[03:41] <et09> it's not working at all
[03:41] <et09> already mired like 10 levels deep into BS
[03:42] <et09> probably will just install either 15.04 or 14.04 lts from scratch
[03:48] <kadiro> hello, how to chown into ntfs partition?
[03:52] <corner> i using ubuntu 14.04LTS
[03:52] <corner> i have try to googling but nothing
[03:54] <kadiro> ?
[03:55] <kadiro> you speak to me corner ?
[03:56] <corner> can someone help me?
[03:56] <kadiro> corner: just ask your question i'm sure someone can help
[03:58] <RudeViper> I am looking to move some tv shows and movies that I have recorded from my windows 10 machine to my file/media server which is running Ubuntu Server 14.04....When I had windows on the server I could use ccfile to accomplish this - is there somethin
[03:59] <RudeViper> similar to this for ubuntu that uses and web interface to upload the files - like say in java?
[04:01] <kadiro> No idea RudeViper, may be vlc can help
[04:14] <notaeon> RudeViper: why not just use ftp?
[04:16] <wafflejock> RudeViper: could use owncloud, if you install the server part on your Ubuntu machine you can install the client on whatever computer and it will sync it's basically an open source dropbox that you can control, if you have samba on the Ubuntu machine you should be able to share with the regular network sharing as well
[04:17] <momomo> what is the easiest way to creata shortcut to a file on this *** OS ?
[04:17] <wafflejock> momomo: there are symbolic links not shortcuts really, are you trying to make a launcher for some program?
[04:17] <notaeon> symlink
[04:18] <notaeon> damn beaten to the punch
[04:18] <TechEffigy> heya
[04:18] <momomo> wafflejock, no, not for some program .. to two or three files
[04:18] <TechEffigy> my ubuntu is only using half my screen
[04:18] <momomo> text files
[04:18] <TechEffigy> i think ubuntu cant detect my screen size?
[04:19] <notaeon> TechEffigy: has it always done this?
[04:19] <TechEffigy> yes
[04:19] <TechEffigy> ive tryd using xrandr, live cd's and cvt
[04:19] <TechEffigy> nothing works
[04:19] <wafflejock> momomo: k if it's for files a symbolic link is the way to do it, ln -s TARGET LINK_NAME
[04:19] <TechEffigy> if i try change resolution it still only uses half the screen
[04:19] <wafflejock> momomo: target is the original file link_name is the "shortcut" location
[04:20] <TechEffigy> so it must be a monitor detection problem
[04:20] <notaeon> TechEffigy: check if you have correct graphical drivers, if you do reinstall anyway. try to find out if this is a common bug. even if it isn't you can set an offset for x and y positions to fix this
[04:20] <momomo> wafflejock, i need it on the launcher.. will that work?
[04:20] <wafflejock> TechEffigy: you try vbeinfo in the grub screens? think you explained before the weird pixel stretching at the bottom of the screen?
[04:20] <TechEffigy> yip
[04:21] <TechEffigy> whats vbeinfo?
[04:21] <wafflejock> momomo: not sure I'm using Gnome so don't have a launcher here, alacarte is a nice program for managing shortcuts on the menus in general but not sure about the launcher
[04:21] <wafflejock> !launcher
[04:21] <wafflejock> nothin
[04:21] <wafflejock> TechEffigy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103516/grub2-use-maximum-detected-resolution
[04:21] <TechEffigy> ill check it out
[04:22] <momomo> wafflejock, yes, I believe it doesn't ...
[04:22] <momomo> everytime i upgrade intellij i have to go through a hell to update he icon on the launcher
[04:23] <momomo> gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new /path/to/link
[04:23] <wafflejock> momomo: well if you setup a symbolic link in your /usr/bin or wherever for phpstorm then you can use that for the launcher then you just update the symbolic link every time
[04:23] <wafflejock> er intellij rather
[04:23] <momomo> wafflejock, seriously, it's almost 2016 ...
[04:24] <momomo> and why the fuck do they keep insisting on forcing us to have the lancher on the left side
[04:24] <momomo> why not let us fucking choose...
[04:24] <wafflejock> momomo: watch the language ops keep the channel family friendly
[04:24] <wafflejock> momomo: can try another DE
[04:24] <momomo> too late
[04:24] <momomo> i wish i had
[04:24] <wafflejock> momomo: I moved away from Unity in like 12.04
[04:25] <momomo> too much invested in fixing and getting around like fifty stuff
[04:25] <momomo> shortctus and what not
[04:25] <TechEffigy> i followed that grub resolution thing
[04:25] <TechEffigy> restarting now
[04:25] <momomo> wafflejock, but gnome 3 is what you are runnning ?
[04:25] <wafflejock> TechEffigy: gl
[04:25] <TechEffigy> damn, did not work
[04:25] <wafflejock> momomo: yeah
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !language | momomo
[04:26] <momomo> wafflejock, i found that worse like a 1 year ago .. i wish gnome 2 was still available ..
[04:26] <wafflejock> momomo: I have a "Dash to Dock" extension so I have a launcher of sorts and more control
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> momomo: gnome classic is still available
[04:26] <wafflejock> momomo: Mate is a recent reincarnation I believe
[04:26] <GooseJuice> anyone using get-iplayer? I can't get it to pipe to mplayer.
[04:27] <GooseJuice> Could use some assistance, installed all deps i beleive
[04:27] <m31740> has someone ever tried rock clusters?
[04:29] <notaeon> GooseJuice: so this doesn't work http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer/documentation#Streaming
[04:29] <notaeon> ?
[04:31] <GooseJuice> ive tried it all.
[04:31] <TechEffigy> so what can i do if ubuntu is using only half my screen?
[04:31] <notaeon> GooseJuice: what happens when you try?
[04:31] <m31740> need help on openssi
[04:33] <Guest65935> Is there something wrong with the Ubuntu repo servers?  I keep intermittently getting incredibly slow transfer rates when updating or installing packages.
[04:33] <TechEffigy> when my pc starts it shows a big purple screen using my entire screen, and as soon as the ubuntu loading logo appears, it starts using half my screen
[04:33] <Guest65935> It's taking 10 minutes to install a 224KB file
[04:34] <m31740> everything is fine.. check your connections
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: ubuntu version and wifi chipset plz?
[04:35] <Guest65935> my connection seems fine..im on wireless with 100% signal.  i can run speed tests and get 20mbps as I should
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: where you from?
[04:36] <Guest65935> lotuspsychje xubuntu 14.04 lts and its a edimax we-7811UN
[04:36] <Guest65935> i installed the "fixed" driver that alot of people suggest, and it seems to work fine with everything except ubuntu repos
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: wich country?
[04:37] <Guest65935> USA
[04:37] <Guest65935> the wifi chipset is rtl8192cu
[04:38] <Guest65935> im trying to find a link to the driver i used
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: realtek can be a real pain sometimes, can you sudo lshw -C network and check behind driver= ?
[04:38] <GooseJuice> apparently its not finding the right pid for radio1
[04:39] <Guest65935> the link to the site i got the driver from: https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
[04:39] <Guest65935> with sudo?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: try the drivers from melgit linux-firmware
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> legit
[04:41] <Guest65935> http://pastebin.com/rixN5ga0
[04:43] <Guest65935> melgit linux-firmware isnt bringing up much on google
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !infi linux-firmware | Guest65935
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-firmware | Guest65935
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: after driver=rtl8192cu it should show firmware=blahblah
[04:45] <GooseJuice> ill try something else
[04:45] <Guest65935> do you mean i should try the stock driver that comes with ubuntu?
[04:45] <GooseJuice> Thanks the help
[04:46] <Guest65935> If so I tried that first, and it didn't work well at all.  wlan would not work after resume, and it suffered other connectivity issues
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: stock driver + stock firmware with linux-firmware
[04:47] <section1> hi guys
[04:47] <section1> im doing a do-release-upgrade in an ubuntu 10 and i get some error
[04:47] <Guest65935> i have the linux-firmware package isstalled
[04:48] <Guest65935> when I first used the adapter I just plugged it in and used the stock driver, and linux-firmware was already installed.  it worked poorly
[04:48] <section1> some like  this ones Err http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/restricted Translation-en
[04:49] <Guest65935> perhaps im not fully understanding what you are saying, I'm sorry
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: fully updated to 14.04.3?
[04:49] <Guest65935> yes
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: with the firmware installed it should work properly
[04:49] <smokin_>  I am looking for free pieace of software that would allow me to broadcast my desktop for distros built with debian  and i have looked on google with nno luck so i am wondering if anyone knows of something to do that?
[04:49] <smokin_> Live stream not recorded videos
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> smokin_: #debian if your on debian
[04:50] <Guest65935> and when you say the firmware, you mean the linux-firmware package from the repos?
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: yep
[04:51] <Guest65935> yeah...it worked...ish.....but not really
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: you can also try other sources, maybe its usa repos too
[04:51] <Guest65935> i could get on a network, but after a while transfers would just die while i was still "connected"
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: there's a repo channel somewhere here to ask, forgot name
[04:52] <Guest65935> and if i suspended and resumed the device would be dead
[04:53] <Guest65935> my choices of repo sources were "Main" and "USA"...I thought perhaps someone might hate the USA and be attacking the server so I was going to try another server but there arent any options
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> anyone remembers the name of ubuntu repos channel for issues?
[04:53] <Guest65935> and "main" performed as badly as "UAS" so I thought perhaps they are the same
[04:53] <Guest65935> USA** sorry
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: sudo apt-get update goes fast?
[04:54] <jgcampbell300> Hello can anyone here help me with my nfs exports file please
[04:54] <Guest65935> let me check
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | jgcampbell300
[04:55] <Guest65935> it went fast up till about 58% now its hanging
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: ok try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[04:55] <mmkaho> Anybody have expeirence with NGIX?
[04:56] <Guest65935> when i download from the repos it seems to burst a little bit..then hang for many seconds...then another little burst
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: check if you got wifi related issues in there
[04:56] <mmkaho> er NGINX
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: you sure speedtest is 100% successfully right
[04:57] <jgcampbell300> I bleave i have something wrong in this /media/junk 192.168.1.2/24(ro,all_squash,anonuid=1000,anongid=1000,insecure) 192.168.1.23(rw) 192.168.1.22(rw) 192.168.1.21(rw) ...
[04:57] <mmkaho> I keep getting nginx: [emerg] "rtmp" directive is not allowed here in /usr/local/nginx/conf/nginx.conf:56 when trying to put the RTMp module
[04:57] <jgcampbell300> it dosnt give me rw from the last three addresses
[04:58] <Guest65935> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/dLAaizkZ
[04:59] <jgcampbell300> any idea what im doing wrong ?
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: this doesnt sound very good: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: try more tests with wifi while you tail
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: apt-get update and apt-get upgrade or try installing something
[05:01] <Guest65935> ok ill do that....and i think the speed tests are right....id did it with different services and different servers and i get 20 megabits/s like i should
[05:02] <Guest65935> i used ookla and speakeasy sites
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: so weird
[05:04] <et09> now i'm in 15.04 - i did the usual /etc/default/grub stuff to try to boot into text mode, but it dumps me right into lightdm - tried to do `The unit files have no [Install] section. They are not meant to be enabled
[05:05] <Lim> Some websites make my CPU usage very high. lol
[05:05] <Guest65935> nothing seems to be changing in those logs during apt-get update
[05:05] <et09> um... tried to do sudo systemctl enable multi-user.target --force, but it gives me that ^
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935:
[05:06] <Guest65935> oh and "IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready" might be because i have my LAN IPv6 disabled on the router and "ignored" in the network manager
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: im still trying to find the repo channel
[05:07] <Guest65935> ok thanks for the help ; )
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !sources | Guest65935 maybe try this meanwhile to test out other sources
[05:09] <Guest65935> i was trying wavemon to watch the wifi for any strange behavior...i dont know if there are any other tools i should try
[05:09] <Guest65935> thank you lotus ill take a loog
[05:09] <Guest65935> look*
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: my guess will be sources or the realtek firmware
[05:11] <Guest65935> its funny, this is the #1 selling network adapter on amazon and it touts its linux support.  but out of the box it barely worked.  So i spent 2 days trying to decide if I should return it or try one of these alternative drivers from mysterious sources
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: idle in #ubuntu-mirrors and ask for known repo issues
[05:11] <Guest65935> the edimax website offers a driver too..and a script that fails to compile it on ubuntu
[05:12] <Guest65935> ok ill check in there too
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: another idea would be, load up a 14.04 liveusb with wifi and check if you got issues there
[05:17] <delt> Hello
[05:17] <delt> how can i cross-compile a gtk3 program for windows?
[05:17] <et09> how do i get 15.04 to boot into runlevel 3 instead of 5
[05:17] <delt> what packages do i need? (if they exist for ubuntu / mint)
[05:19] <Guest65935> lotuspsychje I have one sitting here that I used to install on this machine a week ago...i can boot with it and check it out
[05:19] <Guest65935> but can i apt-get update or upgrade or install packages on a live USB boot?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: you can do that tail again to see if anything goes wrong
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: or sudo lshw -C network to see wich driver
[05:21] <Guest65935> ok i will give that a try..thank you for all the advice
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Guest65935: hope you get it fixxed
[05:22] <Guest65935> yeah...is there a good way to just check for transmission errors, packet loss, general latency etc
[05:23] <Guest65935> i tried pinging us.archive.ubuntu.com but it didnt seem to be too wild
[05:23] <Guest65935> 100-200ms
[05:23] <Guest65935> no time outs
[05:24] <Berta> how would I go about automatically detecting and installing the latest (stable) proprietary driver for 3d graphics cards ?
[05:32] <Guest65935> berta: i think theyre in the repos
[05:32] <Guest65935> berta i was just looking at the ATI driver there a bit ago
[05:32] <Guest65935> berta: ATI also provides a .run install script on their website, and instructions to update
[05:32] <Guest65935> berta: I have a "legacy" adapter though so the repo version isn't for me I don't think
[05:41] <Guest65935> Is installing a proprietary driver for ATI Radeon x300 SE downloaded from ATI in the form of a .run file recommended?  I'm worried something is going to go wrong and I'm going to bork my system and spend hours trying to get it back to stock drivers.
[05:42] <Giraffe_> hey, im trying to make this IRC bot run on my kubuntu 15.04, im getting https://github.com/oftn/oftn-bot/issues/48. I installed v8 via Googles subversion repo, but im not sure what 'yorickvP's solution is
[05:42] <Giraffe_> towards the bottom, Using spidermonkey instead of v8 is probably the easiest solution. You could try and replace the 'pkg-config v8 --libs --cflags' with its output, probably -lv8 -pthread'
[05:42] <Guest65935> I haven't found any way yet to crash this old PC except for minecraft : P
[05:44] <asdffff> sup
[05:44] <asdffff> thanks.
[05:51] <asdffff> @search on xchat doesnt work if that helps.
[05:56] <baizon> asdffff: hexchat, not xchat
[06:03] <SiouxPlex> if I make an edit to the smb.conf file, is there a way to refresh the shares without restarting the samba service?
[06:07] <Guest65935> no I dont think so....sudo service nmbd restart then sudo service smbd restart
[06:07] <Guest65935> sudo service samba restart *might* work but it's hard to tell without any feedback from the script
[07:09] <BrillianceisLost> how do i keep resolv.conf from being overwritten every time i reboot?
[07:14] <auronandace> BrillianceisLost: i think you need to remove a resolveconf package
[07:14] <BrillianceisLost> yes!
[07:14] <BrillianceisLost> thank you :)
[07:14] <BrillianceisLost> im new to ubuntu but not linux
[07:14] <Guest25984> is there a more correct way to go about what youre trying to do?
[07:15] <BrillianceisLost> yes
[07:15] <BrillianceisLost> use dhcp
[07:15] <BrillianceisLost> and set static ip mapping
[07:15] <BrillianceisLost> but id rather not
[07:27] <Guest25984> if gksudo thunar is a bad idea....is sudo mc a better idea?  If i want to be lazy about copying and moving files.
[07:28] <Guest25984> I've never used midnight commander, but i remember norton commander from the 90s
[07:28] <pmaxk> gksudo thunar is a bad idea??
[07:28] <auronandace> Guest25984: no difference between them really, any file manager you use as root you'd need to be careful
[07:28] <Ben64> its not a great one
[07:29] <pmaxk> need to be careful
[07:29] <pmaxk> but  bad idea??
[07:29] <Guest25984> auronandace: yes but gksudo is no longer installed by default because its "dangerous" and pkexec doesnt run x11 programs
[07:29] <pmaxk> the sudo..
[07:29] <pmaxk> then
[07:30] <Guest25984> if i install gksudo and run thunar with it...i eventually see a disturbing number of errors in the console
[07:30] <Ben64> why do you need to run it as root anyway
[07:30] <Guest25984> isnt running a gui app with sudo even worse?
[07:30] <auronandace> Guest25984: are you sure they are errors and not warnings?
[07:31] <pmaxk>  warnings are
[07:34] <Guest25984> ive come across a number of sources that say running a gui program with sudo is terrible, running it with gksudo is less terrible, but still terrible
[07:35] <EriC^^> Guest25984: that's true
[07:35] <Guest25984> so i guess im asking is running midnight commander with sudo is a better than the above two choices because its a terminal program
[07:35] <auronandace> Guest25984: running anything as sudo when it is uneccessary is a bad idea
[07:36] <frenda> Do you know what's the app for taking this screenshot and adding some arrows on it: https://files.gitter.im/reactioncommerce/reaction/v2Y0/thumb/REACTION______.png ?
[07:36] <EriC^^> Guest25984: gksu nautilus isn't harmful
[07:36] <Guest25984> no i would only intend to do it in cases where it is necessary
[07:36] <Ben64> when is it necessary
[07:36] <Guest25984> in cases where i want to copy or move files as root
[07:36] <Guest25984> and be lazy with a sort of gui
[07:37] <Ben64> in my ~15 years of linux, never had to open a gui file manager as root, why do you
[07:37] <Guest25984> lets say to copy a file from one theme to another
[07:38] <Guest25984> as root
[07:38] <Ben64> should be in your home folder
[07:38] <Guest25984> /usr/share/themes
[07:38] <Ben64> ~/.themes
[07:39] <Guest25984> no /usr/share/themes...as an example of files i might want to interact with using a gui
[07:39] <Ben64> no, i'm saying you shouldn't mess around there, and instead use ~/.themes
[07:39] <Guest25984> but those themes arent available to other users
[07:40] <Ben64> so copy them to the other users ~/.themes
[07:40] <Guest25984> i feel like were straying from the original question and making it more about why not to use root to interact with files
[07:41] <Ben64> yep, its unnecessary
[07:42] <pmaxk> i would like to copy paste a firware of my dtv tuner;
[07:42] <pmaxk> Ben64??
[07:42] <Guest25984> im not sure how working with files as root is unnecessary
[07:42] <Guest25984> i seem to have to do it alot
[07:42] <Ben64> then you're doing the wrong things
[07:46] <Guest25984> i probably am doing the wrong things but thats outside the scope of the question
[07:46] <ObrienDave> insanity: doing the same thing and expecting different results ;P
[07:47] <auronandace> Guest25984: why not do things the right way and then not need to move files as root?
[07:47] <Ben64> Guest25984: it isn't, if someone went to go put out a grease fire with a bucket of water i'd stop them
[07:47] <Vegemite> is this the right setup: http://puu.sh/kEUxg/74e0ce6d5f.jpg
[07:48] <Guest25984> if im going to to edit a theme or make my own, doesnt it make more sense to do it once to the global themes rather than do it for the user if i want it available to other users?
[07:49] <Ben64> Guest25984: no, you shouldn't be messing with system folders/files/packages it can cause issues
[07:49] <Guest25984> the alternative is to use sudo to copy the theme to other accounts right?
[07:49] <Ben64> don't need sudo to copy
[07:50] <Guest25984> to another users folder?
[07:50] <Ben64> to your user's folder you don't need sudo
[07:50] <Guest25984> to another users folder
[07:51] <Ben64> let the user decide if they want to?
[07:51] <auronandace> Guest25984: if you are editing themes locally then surely you'll want to do it with the one user first, that will prevent the rest of the system from being affected
[07:51] <Guest25984> ...
[07:51] <Ben64> or drop the modified .themes/ into /etc/skel and it'll be created for every new user
[07:52] <Guest25984> drop it into /etc/skel how?
[07:52] <ObrienDave> sudo ;P
[07:52] <Guest25984> right!
[07:53] <linuxfan> Can anybody help me with this?
[07:53] <Guest25984> so assuming i want to take my theme and drop it in that folder..but using a sort of gui file manager like mc launched with root.....
[07:53] <azyr> i cant create new modes using cvt
[07:53] <Ben64> linuxfan: nope, our mind readers aren't here currently
[07:53] <azyr> my monitor doesnt accept any of the output
[07:53] <azyr> following this guide
[07:53] <Ben64> Guest25984: or just do 'sudo cp -R ~/.themes /etc/skel"
[07:54] <azyr> http://www.martinaulbach.net/linux/command-line-magic/59-setting-higher-screen-resolution-for-external-monitor-in-ubuntu-14-10
[07:54]  * ObrienDave breaks out my chrystal ball for linuxfan 
[07:54] <azyr> trying to set proper resolution for my external monitor
[07:54] <azyr> any ideas?
[07:54] <Guest25984> yes that is an alternative that is totally available but still nto really related to the question
[07:54] <Ben64> then you asked the wrong question
[07:55] <linuxfan> Trying to fix this wifi problem on 14.04.3
[07:55] <Ben64> Guest25984: learn to do things properly
[07:55] <ObrienDave> WHAT WI-FI PROBLEM?
[07:55] <auronandace> Guest25984: Ben64 is telling you how to move files as root properly when it is necessary, you seem determined to want to do it with a file manager unnecessarily
[07:55] <ObrienDave> !details | linuxfan
[07:56] <linuxfan> The wifi is on through hardware but on ubuntu said device not ready
[07:56] <Guest25984> i wouldnt say determined....but lets say hypothetically that i have a nurological disorder that affects my typing skills
[07:56] <BrillianceisLost> i just rebooted into a livecd and used gparted to resize my root partition and such and i rebooted and i still get /dev/mapper/zimbra--vg-root  6.6G  2.8G  3.5G  45% /
[07:56] <Guest25984> and i want to be different that everyone else
[07:56] <Ben64> linuxfan: until you provide enough details to get help, you won't get help
[07:56] <linuxfan> I am not on pc right now, maybe later
[07:56] <Ben64> Guest25984: you're typing more than enough here arguing against doing things the right way, you could have copied stuff already
[07:57]  * ObrienDave face palms
[08:01] <cycrojanic> I need help
[08:01] <cycrojanic> cat /dev/urandom | padsp tee /dev/audio > song.mp3
[08:01] <cycrojanic> whatbdoes that makes?
[08:02] <cycrojanic> hello?
[08:03] <jarnos> Could BIOS update cause problems with Wlan? After the update wifi connection drops occasionally.
[08:03] <Guest25984> random noise
[08:03] <BrillianceisLost> cycrojanic, troll
[08:05] <Guest25984> bios update can change bios settings to defaults...and sometimes its a good idea to load defaults anyway just to be safe...then perhaps theres a bios setting for your wifi that has changed
[08:05] <cycrojanic> thanks
[08:06] <sorin-mihai> anyone knows a way to change size of the client-side-decorations in gnome, to make it the same size as the gtk2/non-csd titlebars?
[08:16] <msev-> can some linux bash pro help me up from where we stopped with TJ -> <TJ-> msev-: so when gpsd started the /dev/rfcomm0 was missing. That means you need to use the control socket to 'tell' it to add it. See the man-page for gpsd, there is info about doing that -> I can't find the relevant info, I don't even know what to search to be honest
[08:22] <Guest25984> msev: is it this? http://www.catb.org/gpsd/
[09:08] <warfaren> uhh.. i'm thinking i might have found a bug in the ping command. as strange as it may sound for something so minimal. where should i turn with this?
[09:09] <baizon> warfaren: what is the bug?
[09:09] <warfaren> i was pinging a machine that was down to see when it comes up
[09:10] <warfaren> at first it says 64 bytes from *my own ip* Destination host unreachable
[09:10] <warfaren> like you would expect
[09:10] <warfaren> but when it came up
[09:10] <warfaren> it said 64 bytes from *my own ip* icmp seq yada yada
[09:10] <warfaren> and not the ip i was pinging
[09:11] <warfaren> but when i ctrl+c it and ping again it says 64 bytes from *the ip i was pinging*
[09:11] <warfaren> like expected
[09:11] <warfaren> doesn't that sound like a bug?
[09:11] <warfaren> i can show pastebin
[09:12] <warfaren> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mjY0r8yS
[09:13] <baizon> warfaren: so where is the bug?
[09:13] <warfaren> didnt you see my explanation?
[09:13] <warfaren> when the machine comes up and replies
[09:13] <warfaren> the ip that it comes from is supposed to change to the ip im pinging, right?
[09:13] <warfaren> because that's where it gets the data back from
[09:14] <warfaren> just like in the lower part of the paste, where the machine is already up when im starting to ping
[09:14] <warfaren> then the output is correct
[09:14] <Ben64> please stop using enter as punctuation
[09:14] <warfaren> yeah sorry, it's just how i work i guess. i wrote some and then i think of something more and write that too
[09:14] <baizon> warfaren: well that isnt a bug imo. You get ping data fom 176 because 143 isnt up, but when it gets up you still get the data from 176
[09:15] <warfaren> why would i get the data from 176?
[09:15] <baizon> warfaren: becasue 143 wasnt up
[09:15] <warfaren> but it is at that point
[09:15] <warfaren> hence the "Destination host unreachable" turning into "icmp_seq=..."
[09:16] <baizon> warfaren: yes which indicates that the interface got an ttl
[09:16] <warfaren> yes, and so the ip should also change, right?
[09:17] <baizon> warfaren: you dont get it from the ip, you get it from the interface
[09:17] <baizon> warfaren: "You" get 64 bytes from the 176
[09:17] <warfaren> but why is the ip changed the second time i run the command then?
[09:17] <baizon> warfaren: because you got it from a different interface
[09:18] <warfaren> it's not my local interface, it's the ip of the machine i'm pinging which is another machine
[09:18] <baizon> warfaren: which has an interface
[09:18] <warfaren> and shouldnt that be the responding interface when that machine goes up?
[09:19] <baizon> warfaren: but when you launch the command "You" communicate with the 176 interface
[09:19] <baizon> warfaren: its a running process
[09:19] <warfaren> this makes no sense to me
[09:19] <nopf> baizon: how does the date come from 176 in that example? it came from the network. warfaren is right, it makes no sense
[09:20] <warfaren> here's how i see it: i'm trying to send a packet to 143, but 176 is down so 143 replies instead and says it couldnt contact it. but when 176 comes up, 176 should be responding instead and the ip in the output should change. no?
[09:21] <nopf> warfaren: your numbers should be 143 143 176 143 143 in that order and "is responding" instead of "should be responding"
[09:22] <warfaren> nopf: what, no? 143 was never down
[09:22] <baizon> let me reproduce this
[09:22] <warfaren> nopf: 143 is my local machine, the one i'm pinging from
[09:23] <warfaren> i'll do it again myself too, from another machine to another machine
[09:24] <baizon> warfaren: you got something wrong
[09:24] <nopf> warfaren: your paste says otherwise. recheck that
[09:24] <baizon> warfaren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12733317/
[09:25] <warfaren> nopf: sorry, i got the ip's mixed up
[09:25] <warfaren> meant them to be the other way around ofcourse
[09:25] <warfaren> i'll write my explanation again properly
[09:25] <baizon> warfaren: which ubuntu are u using?
[09:26] <warfaren> lubuntu on the machine sending the pings
[09:26] <baizon> warfaren: which lubuntu?
[09:26] <warfaren> 14.04
[09:26] <Ben64> sounds like bad network configuration
[09:27] <baizon> warfaren: well it works for me
[09:27] <warfaren> here's how i see it: i'm trying to send a packet to 176, but 176 is down so 143 replies instead and says it couldnt contact it. but when 176 comes up, 176 should be responding instead and the ip in the output should change. no?
[09:27] <warfaren> there, fixed it.
[09:27] <baizon> warfaren: but it works properly, see my paste
[09:27] <nopf> warfaren: your numbers should be 143 143 176 143 143 in that order and "is responding" instead of "should be responding"
[09:28] <nopf> :)
[09:28] <warfaren> baizon: in your paste it behaves like i would expect it to yes, not as it does for me
[09:28] <warfaren> nopf: i dont see why? i was never trying to send a ping to 143
[09:28] <Ben64> so join ##networking and see what they say
[09:29] <Ben64> not an ubuntu issue
[09:29] <warfaren> Ben64: indeed, i just came here to ask where to proceed but people got curious about what the bug was so the discussion went on...
[09:30] <Ben64> but its not a bug
[09:30] <nopf> warfaren: your paste says otherwise. recheck that (1st line already)
[09:30] <warfaren> nopf: you're right. my mind is so confused. i dunno why
[09:30] <warfaren> :D
[09:30] <nopf> warfaren: because networking :)
[09:31] <warfaren> for some reason i keep thinking the one ip is the other
[09:31] <warfaren> argh
[09:31] <warfaren> anyhow, i shall run the test again with two different machines and see what it does.
[09:37] <warfaren> yep.. second time i test (with two different computers) this "bug" (or whatever it is) does not happen
[09:38] <warfaren> it's the same network though and all get their ips from the same dhcp. just different machines with different distros
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> warfaren: follow the advice of Ben64 and join ##networking please
[09:39] <warfaren> yes, i will do so. just wanted to tell the people here of the results in case they were curious
[09:40] <BrillianceisLost> so i used gparted to expand /dev/sda5 and df says my root fs is still 10GB and not 15GB
[09:40] <BrillianceisLost> how do i make the root partition bigger?
[09:40] <BrillianceisLost> i dont know jack about lvm
[09:40] <Ben64> oh lvm, i'm out
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | BrillianceisLost
[09:48] <BrillianceisLost> Ben64, why does lvm exist and why is it default?
[09:50] <Ben64> i don't think it's default
[09:51] <baizon> BrillianceisLost: gparted isnt working when u use lvm. http://www.tecmint.com/extend-and-reduce-lvms-in-linux/
[09:51] <baizon> Ben64: well it's default when u install ubuntu and dont change it ;)
[09:51] <BrillianceisLost> lvm is a confusing mess
[09:52] <BrillianceisLost> i had one little task to do 6 hours ago
[09:52] <BrillianceisLost> and now this bullcrap :(
[09:56] <Ben64> baizon: nope, not default, requires you to check a box
[09:56] <baizon> Ben64: indeed :D
[09:59] <fubu> we
[09:59] <fubu> eq
[09:59] <fubu> eq
[09:59] <fubu> we
[09:59] <fubu> qe
[09:59] <fubu> q
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> fubu  it works, we see you
[10:03] <BrillianceisLost> baizon, the page you linked me to i couldnt find anywhere on google and it helped solve my problem. thank you very much!!!
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | baizon
[10:13] <vitimiti> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a machine, the USB is working *from time to time* and the presentation during the installation doesn't have a bar indicating that the installation is working. How can I know if the installation is going on or not without having the progress bar?
[10:13] <vitimiti> Ubuntu 15.04
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: you can unfold details while installing
[10:15] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, details is gone, too
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> vitimiti  how is it, you don't have a progress bar... is it frozen or is it not there?
[10:15] <vitimiti> It's only the presentation without details or a progress bar
[10:15] <vitimiti> It's not there
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: you doing the install, or the install from live?
[10:16] <vitimiti> Like it's missing the bottom part that holds the progress bar and the details
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> vitimiti  is the resolution ok?
[10:16] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, it's from a live USB I created with the bottable disks creator
[10:16] <vitimiti> MonkeyDust, yeah
[10:16] <vitimiti> bootable*
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: yes but are you installing from the live desktop, or did you choose install at start of setup?
[10:17] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, I chose install directly
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: how long has it been going?
[10:17] <vitimiti> I also had another problem, I had to choose erase disk and install Ubuntu twice since the first time it failed creating the partition
[10:17] <vitimiti> But now the partition is created
[10:17] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, maybe 5 minutes
[10:18] <baizon> vitimiti: no hardware that is broken?
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: wait 15 more perhaps
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: what chipset is your graphics card?
[10:18] <vitimiti> baizon, not as far as I know, the disk is old but working
[10:19] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, let me check
[10:19] <baizon> vitimiti: RAM?
[10:19] <vitimiti> baizon, 4GB
[10:19] <RudeViper> I am looking to move some tv shows and movies that I have recorded from my windows 10 machine to my file/media server which is running Ubuntu Server 14.04....When I had windows on the server I could use ccfile to accomplish this - is there somethin
[10:19] <baizon> RudeViper: rsync
[10:19] <RudeViper> similar to ccfil
[10:20] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, it's two: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller and AMD ATI RV635/M86 (Mobility Radeon HD 3650)
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: maybe a screen glitch from the radeon driver
[10:21] <vitimiti> I'll wait some more time, then and cross my fingers
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: ati can act weird in some cases
[10:21] <vitimiti> I see
[10:22] <vitimiti> Well, the USB drive is showing it's working and the mouse is in the working wheel shape, so I guess it's actually doing things
[10:22] <RudeViper> baizon: I was kinda hoping for something with a web type interface like maybe soemthing from a website
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: never heard of this before neither
[10:22] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, it's an old LG PC, it might have around 10 years, maybe that's why
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: what resolution does your screen have?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> aha
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> that would make sense vitimiti
[10:23] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, I can't remember the resolution of this PC right now
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: maybe unity doesnt like it already
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: if this fails after reboot, you could try xubuntu/lubuntu
[10:23] <vitimiti> I did a cd /target && ls and I see files thre, that's a good sign
[10:24] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, I had installed Ubuntu 15.04 but 32 bits, now it is 64, because I've seen the PC has long mode
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: for more stable i would go 14.04 64bit
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: if things go wrong you can try install lubuntu-desktop from recoverymode terminal
[10:25] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, thank you
[10:26] <vitimiti> I did an ls | grep gimp since I had it installed before and there's not GIMP and a lot of binaries are installed, I'm guessing it's just a graphical glitch of the installer
[10:26] <vitimiti> Oh, it's asking to reboot now
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: lets hope so
[10:26] <vitimiti> Installation complete
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: cross ya fingerz xx
[10:26] <vitimiti> Let's see what happens
[10:27] <vitimiti> This PC also had problems creating the bootable media, I had to do it in my new netbook, it's not doing alright, really
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: yeah older hardware can be a pain sometimes
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> vitimiti: but there's always lubuntu/xubuntu to the rescue :p
[10:27] <vitimiti> heh
[10:28] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, it's booting now
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> nice
[10:28] <vitimiti> lotuspsychje, it works, desktop is up and running with the correct resolution
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> !yay | vitimiti
[10:28] <vitimiti> yay
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> \m/
[10:29] <vitimiti> That was scary, it's my mother PC and she kind of doesn't understand when things don't work at the first try
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu on mother's pc is the best
[10:29] <vitimiti> Yes
[10:31] <cloudy_nz> lol, my mother-in-law is using a netbook with ubuntu 12.04 still
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> they cant break ubuntu like w1n
[10:32] <vitimiti> I have to now install PSCS6 on this, I know I can do it thanks to Playonlinux, though
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> mombuntu
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:46] <aeonchild> 35
[10:47] <aeonchild> oops
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:15] <JunkHunk> hello how can I ask ubuntu about the manufacturer I 'd like to find out whether my hardware is in this list or not: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/HCL_10.10.5/Desktops
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> !hardware
[11:18] <JunkHunk> MonkeyDust, I meant my ubuntu  system :-)
[11:18] <JunkHunk> shell command
[11:18] <JunkHunk> to find out hardware manufacturer
[11:18] <Adrian_982> Hi guys, Is there any alternative to Itunes for Ubuntu ? I'd like to copie some mp3 songs from ubuntu to my iphone. But i didn't find a way !
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !itunes | Adrian_982
[11:19] <JunkHunk> perhaps this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/143796/how-to-determine-hardware
[11:19] <Adrian_982> !players
[11:19] <cfhowlett> JunkHunk, sudo lshw
[11:20] <Adrian_982> These are just players!
[11:20] <wakeatnight> my usb drive i am preparing to create ubuntu usb media is throwing an error
[11:20] <wakeatnight> saying that its 2048 bytes but linux says its 512
[11:20] <wakeatnight> what should i do?
[11:20] <wakeatnight> thans
[11:20] <wakeatnight> thanks*
[11:20] <cfhowlett> wakeatnight, get a different USB
[11:21] <wakeatnight> cfhowlett: really?
[11:21] <wakeatnight> iis it physically broken?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> wakeatnight, guess what; it's really easy to find out!
[11:21] <cfhowlett> !ipod | Adrian_982,
[11:21] <wakeatnight> cfhowlett: how? :)
[11:21] <cfhowlett> wakeatnight, get a different USB
[11:22] <wakeatnight> i don't get it
[11:22] <wakeatnight> i need this one to work
[11:22] <JunkHunk> thankyou
[11:22] <Adrian_982> Thanks ubottu !
[11:22] <wakeatnight> can't i just realign the blocksize?
[11:22] <lord4163> wakeatnight: How are you creating the usb media?
[11:22] <wakeatnight> to whatever it says it needs?
[11:22] <wakeatnight> well gparted is doing the error
[11:22] <wakeatnight> but ubuntu's usb media creator
[11:22] <baizon> Adrian_982: U can use Banshee or Amarok Player to sync your music.
[11:23] <Adrian_982> Thanks for the info baizon
[11:23] <lord4163> wakeatnight: wipe the usb drive, by writing a new MBR partition table to it, then try again? :)
[11:23] <wakeatnight> lord4163: not gpt? i need uefi
[11:25] <lord4163> wakeatnight: it doesn't matter
[11:31] <vitimiti> I have installed pasystray on this new system, and when I execute it, the systray doesn't show its icon. I was going to whitelist it on the dconf-editor, but I can't seem to find the systray white and black lists of the panel. How can I make this icon appear?
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> !info pasystray
[11:47] <Gh0st-> how can I get the similar desktop environment like MAC?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Gh0st-  install a different !theme
[11:48] <volvieras> or a dekstop environment
[11:48] <Gh0st-> MonkeyDust: which one?
[11:48] <Gh0st-> volvieras: which one would that be?
[11:48] <SCHAAP137> Gh0st-: you could try MATE, then choose the Cupertino theme in MATE Tweak application
[11:48] <volvieras> gnome3 is pretty similar Gh0st-
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Gh0st-  cairo dockbar and plank are available
[11:48] <vitimiti> Gh0st-, a quick Google search shows this: http://www.howtogeek.com/45817/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-mac-os-x/
[11:48] <Gh0st-> vitimiti: cheers :D
[11:49] <vitimiti> Gh0st-, there's a pack called MacBuntu
[11:49] <Gh0st-> you GUYS are awesome!
[11:49] <Gh0st-> :D thank you
[11:49] <Gh0st-> vitimiti: Macbuntu?
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Gh0st-  macbuntu is not supported here
[11:49] <vitimiti> Gh0st-, it seems so, check the page (it's just a theme atop Ubuntu)
[11:49] <Gh0st-> MonkeyDust: oh
[11:49] <Gh0st-> ok checking
[11:49] <vitimiti> It does some more things than just theme, it seems, though
[11:50] <Gh0st-> vitimiti: how would I check if my laptop is compatible in terms of Drivers etc
[11:50] <Gh0st-> :S
[11:50] <vitimiti> Gh0st-, I've never used MacBuntu, really
[11:50] <Gh0st-> I have Dell Inspiron R15 SE 7520
[11:50] <Gh0st-> vitimiti: oh ok
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !hcl | Gh0st-
[11:51] <Gh0st-> cfhowlett: is that something automatic?
[11:51] <cfhowlett> open the wiki and see
[11:51] <Gh0st-> ok
[11:51] <Gh0st-> thanks
[11:51] <Gh0st-> :D
[11:52] <Gh0st-> cfhowlett: doesn't look like automatic to me?
[11:52] <Gh0st-> :S
[11:53] <diwan> help
[11:53] <cfhowlett> it's not.  for the record, Dell is usually quite ubuntu friendly.  take your ubuntu USB to the dell store and boot up the floor demo model.
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !help | diwan
[11:53] <diwan> hey anyone there.. ?
[11:53] <Gh0st-> diwan: all of them.. just ask the question
[11:53] <Gh0st-> :D
[11:54] <diwan> How to prevent ubuntu 14.04 from auto-sleep ? Also i turn off the auto lock in settings. Still it's getting sleep when i lock the system.?
[11:55] <diwan> How to prevent ubuntu 14.04 from auto-sleep ? Also i turn off the auto lock in settings. Still it's getting sleep when i lock the system.?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !patience | diwan
[11:57] <diwan> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/macbuntu-1404-pack-is-released.html
[11:57] <diwan> I am using mac transformation pack how to reset my system now to get back to normal ubuntu apperance
[11:57] <bazhang> full r3einstall diwan
[11:58] <cfhowlett> diwan, macbuntu is not supported here.  ask the macbuntu folk how to remove and clean
[11:58] <bazhang> diwan that macbuntu is very unforgiving
[11:58] <diwan> i am using ubuntu 14.04
[11:58] <diwan> have you guys checked that link
[11:58] <bazhang> diwan, yes, and that transform is very unforgiving
[11:58] <diwan> Is there any way to get rid of that ?
[11:58] <bazhang> diwan yes, know the link very well
[11:58] <cfhowlett> diwan, he TOLD you ... reinstall
[11:59] <bazhang> diwan, back up and reinstall
[11:59] <diwan> which mean i have to install ubuntu again uh .. ?
[11:59] <bazhang> diwan, that macbuntu transform has no reset button
[11:59] <bazhang> diwan, yes thats right
[11:59] <diwan> How to prevent ubuntu 14.04 from auto-sleep ? Also i turn off the auto lock in settings. Still it's getting sleep when i lock the system.?
[11:59] <bazhang> diwan, following random how tos internet is never a good idea
[12:00] <Gh0st-> oh did I miss somethng?
[12:00] <Gh0st-> diwan: I asked the question about the Macbuntu as well
[12:00] <bazhang> diwan, ask every 15 minsor so
[12:00] <Gh0st-> diwan: are you having problems?
[12:00] <diwan> Yes @ghost
[12:00] <Gh0st-> what sort of problems?
[12:01] <diwan> check previous text
[12:01] <diwan> Is there anyway to prevent form sleep ?
[12:01] <diwan> from sleep?
[12:02] <diwan> [~hspcd@cpe-65-190-90-168.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[12:02] <bazhang> diwan, dont do that
[12:03] <diwan> :D
[12:03] <diwan> i asked a que @bazhang
[12:03] <cfhowlett> diwan, silly behavior like that is just too annoying to deal with.  /ignored
[12:04] <bazhang> diwan, so ask every 15 minutes, not every 10 seconds
[12:05] <Gh0st-> can you check your hardware compatibility whilst on a VM?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Gh0st-, nope.  but you CAN create an ubuntu boot USB and test
[12:06] <Gh0st-> cfhowlett: without installing it?
[12:06] <Gh0st-> isn't it
[12:06] <Gh0st-> ?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Gh0st-, if it boots then it's ... go ahead, say it
[12:09] <Gh0st-> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:09] <Gh0st-> do you support ubuntu on VM here?
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Gh0st-, happy2help!
[12:09] <Gh0st-> :D
[12:09] <cfhowlett> Gh0st-, to a degree.  I think vbox is the most popular solution ...
[12:10] <Gh0st-> cfhowlett: I can make it full screen? )
[12:10] <Gh0st-> can't*
[12:10] <cfhowlett> Gh0st-, for full screen, vbox needs guest additions.  read the help page
[12:10] <Gh0st-> cfhowlett: done that..but got some errors
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !vbox | Gh0st-
[12:11] <cfhowlett> #vbox has a channel
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> #vbox *is* a channel
[12:11] <Gh0st-> ok
[12:30] <spoky> list
[12:32] <spoky> help
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> !ask | spoky
[12:34] <spoky> sorry, i tried the help command but fogot the slash
[12:49] <ufk_> hello
[12:50] <ufk_> i installed courier-imap but i still can't connect from my laptop osx to my ubuntu server's imap. any ideas ?
[12:50] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server perhaps ufk_
[12:51] <ufk_> thanks
[12:53] <RudeViper> what is the berrer file system format for storing data (ie photos and video files) ext3 or ext4?
[12:54] <RudeViper> berrer=better
[12:54] <bazhang> RudeViper, shared?
[12:54] <RudeViper> yes shared
[12:55] <bazhang> RudeViper, with windows systems that is
[12:55] <RudeViper> yes
[12:55] <bazhang> ntfs I would say
[12:55] <RudeViper> running on ubuntu server 14.04
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> Rudemeister: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> RudeViper: ^
[12:55] <bazhang> windows wont read the ext4 at all
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> RudeViper  is this useful http://prataplinux.blogspot.be/2015/06/features-comparison-ext3-vs-ext4.html
[12:56] <RudeViper> lotuspsychje" That's ok - been called worse - actually I kinda likt that - lol RudeMeister - hehe
[12:56] <bazhang> linux can read write the whole shebang with ntfs however
[12:57] <bazhang> !cloud
[13:03] <Gh0st-> how can I check the hardware compatibility ? I am not on a Ubuntu through a USB
[13:03] <Gh0st-> I want to make sure my Video drivers are supported
[13:04] <jimfm> ciao
[13:04] <Gh0st-> 2 gig of dedicated video card  with on board as well
[13:04] <bazhang> Gh0st-, not on ubuntu?
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> !it | jimfm
[13:05] <jimfm> !list
[13:05] <bazhang> no warez jimfm
[13:05] <Gh0st-> bazhang: I am on ubuntu
[13:05] <bazhang> Gh0st-, so whats to check
[13:06] <Gh0st-> that my video drivers are supported
[13:06] <jimfm> !list
[13:06] <bazhang> give us the exact make and model gh0q
[13:06] <bazhang> jimfm, dont do that
[13:06] <Gh0st-> bazhang: Dell Inspiron SE 7520
[13:06] <bazhang> Gh0st-, of the card
[13:07] <Gh0st-> oh hang on
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> bazhang on
[13:09] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, perdon
[13:09] <Gh0st-> bazhang: AMD Radeon HD 7730M Graphics Driver
[13:10] <bazhang> Gh0st-, what did you plan to do, steam, gaming, or just web etc
[13:10] <Gh0st-> everything
[13:11] <bazhang> the open source driver might be ok, thats  a pretty old card though
[13:11] <Gh0st-> yeah couple of years old
[13:11] <bazhang> more than that
[13:11] <Gh0st-> bazhang: my fan keep on running
[13:12] <Gh0st-> that's what annoys me the most
[13:12] <bazhang> some of that era amd cards do run hot
[13:13] <Gh0st-> but that is not the case on Windows
[13:13] <Gh0st-> can I just turn it off altogether in Ubuntu?
[13:13] <bazhang> no idea, sounds like a bad move
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> Gh0st-  to control heat, install thermald (daemon) and indicator-cpufreq (applet)
[13:14] <Gh0st-> hmm
[13:14] <Gh0st-> what would you recommend?
[13:14] <Gh0st-> how should I go about t
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: let the fan cool like it should
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: and cleanout with vacuum cleaner
[13:15] <Gh0st-> lotuspsychje: tried that
[13:15] <Gh0st-> on windows it works ust fine
[13:15] <Gh0st-> just*
[13:16] <bazhang> Gh0st-, no need to mention windows at all
[13:16] <Gh0st-> oh ok
[13:16] <Gh0st-> I will avoid
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: i would let the fan run and cool like it does on ubuntu
[13:17] <Gh0st-> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Gh0st-  did you read my suggestion?
[13:17] <Gh0st-> how can I verify it is loaded?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: you can doublecheck dell's website for bios updates aswell
[13:17] <Gh0st-> MonkeyDust: ?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Gh0st-  to control heat, install thermald (daemon) and indicator-cpufreq (applet)
[13:18] <Gh0st-> I mean the drives for AMD card are working fine?
[13:18] <Gh0st-> MonkeyDust: ok thanks
[13:18] <Gh0st-> it's a laptop  BTW
[13:18] <BrazenBraden> when i open up a new shell session, it throws an error "Not: command not found". Read somewhere that I have apparently messed up my $PATH var but dont see where. How do I fix this?
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: try LTS and see for yourself if your card works good
[13:19] <Gh0st-> LTS?
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> !lts | Gh0st-
[13:20] <Gh0st-> ok
[13:20] <Gh0st-> thanks
[13:20] <Gh0st-> how to check the fan speed?
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> BrazenBraden  look in ~/.bashrc, my guess is, that there's a 'NOT' somewhere, that doesnt belong there
[13:25] <Gh0st-> I have installed an applet
[13:25] <Gh0st-> how would i Use it ?
[13:26] <BrazenBraden> MonkeyDust, just did a grep Not * to check all files in my home dir *,bashrc, .profile etc) and no hits.
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: you just asked if ubuntu supports your card? did you install ubuntu or not?
[13:27] <Gh0st-> lotuspsychje: I am on LIVE USB Ubuntu
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> BrazenBraden  detail: it's .bashrc, hidden file
[13:27] <Gh0st-> sorry if I didn't clarify
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> Gh0st-: install ubuntu, then try all you want :p
[13:28] <jasonj8> I have one of my video card's HDMI outputs hooked up to my TV. It was working last night, but the TV went to sleep and now when I powered it back up it's not getting a signal. Is there some command to reset things? I tried disabling/re-enabling the monitor in display settings.
[13:28] <BrazenBraden> MonkeyDust, sorry, did 'grep Not ~/.*', but no results
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> jasonj8: did you try a reboot?
[13:29] <jasonj8> lotuspsychje, I'd like to fix it without rebooting if possible
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> BrazenBraden  also try NOT, not etc, case sensitive
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | jasonj8 maybe with this
[13:31] <BrazenBraden> MonkeyDust, tried. there are a couple 'not's but they all in comments.
[13:35] <josh> hello
[13:39] <jiongjiongyihao> \help
[13:40] <jiongjiongyihao> ..
[13:40] <jiongjiongyihao> exit
[13:46] <josh_> hello
[13:48] <zykotick9> josh_: if you have a question, you should ask it - all on one line, with deatils - and hopefully someone will have an answer/suggestion for you.
[13:49] <fyf> Hello!
[13:51] <luc4> Hello! I have a Toshiba laptop and I notice that resuming after sleep sometimes makes the trackpad or the keyboard not working. I read around there are some other cases of this but no solution seems to work. Anyone else experiencing this on Toshiba with 15.04?
[13:52] <fyf> I use ubuntu 14.04``````
[13:53] <xStark> Honestly it's always better to use LTS
[13:53] <xStark> Since LTS to LTS updates are supported.
[13:53] <volvieras> never say never?
[13:54] <auronandace> xStark: some people like fresh installs and want more up to date software
[13:55] <xStark> Yeah, I'd like up to date software too. Problem is you have to update it to the .10 version or something to switch to the next LTS.
[13:56] <auronandace> xStark: my point is some people don't like upgrading, they would rather fresh install each new release
[13:57] <xStark> Hmm, yeah.
[13:57] <xStark> I don't like fresh installing. I gotta download the whole 1GB again.
[13:57] <xStark> It took like 5 hours to me.
[13:58] <ubuntu-mate>  
[13:58] <cfhowlett> xStark, and upgrading from installed OS = exactly the same amount downloaded
[13:58] <xStark> dayum.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> but you probably get better dl speed from .torrents
[13:59] <xStark> but you don't use torrents for upgrading.
[13:59] <xStark> Suppose I wanna fresh install 16.04 after it releases
[13:59] <xStark> Should I just format the Ubuntu partitions or what
[14:00] <fyf> ``````
[14:00] <cfhowlett> xStark, recommended format except for /home
[14:00] <auronandace> xStark: for a fresh install yes
[14:01] <xStark> there's swap and / partition
[14:02] <xStark> i fomat just swap?
[14:02] <xStark> format*\
[14:02] <fyf> Format swap for what?
[14:02] <auronandace> xStark: no, for a fresh install you would format /
[14:02] <EriC^^> ( after backing up your stuff )
[14:02] <auronandace> xStark: swap is cleared every time you boot
[14:02] <xStark> oh ok
[14:03] <xStark> swap is usually the smaller partition, right?
[14:03] <auronandace> xStark: yes
[14:05] <auronandace> xStark: unless you have a separate /boot partition, that can tend to be smaller than swap partitions nowadays due to the size of ram
[14:06] <xStark> idk about all that. I used the install ubuntu alongside windows option.
[14:06] <EriC^^> xStark: it should say "swap" next to it in the installer as the filesystem, or gparted would probably mention it as swap too
[14:08] <auronandace> xStark: swap partitions need to be just a bit larger than the amount of RAM you have in order to allow you to hibernate, whereas a separate /boot partition only needs to be big enough to hold several kernels (about 500mb seems roughly standard)
[14:09] <xStark> Alright.
[14:10] <baizon> xStark: my swap is as big as my RAM
[14:10] <xStark> But wont formatting / screw up the gnu grub?
[14:10] <Guest73633> ciao Guest73633
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !it | Guest73633
[14:11] <Guest73633> ok
[14:11] <Guest73633> yes
[14:11] <auronandace> xStark: if you are formatting for a new install then you will be installing grub anyway after the format
[14:11] <xStark> true.
[14:12] <Jakey2> Im trying to setup zfs on ubuntu server 14.04
[14:12] <auronandace> !zfs | Jakey2
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Jakey2, #ubuntu-server
[14:13] <fyf> yeah, I see
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> luc4: did you check your logs for errors after resuming?
[14:16] <luc4> lotuspsychje: I took dmesg right after resume, let me pastebin
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> luc4: great lets us have a look
[14:17] <danilo_> http://xdcc_SEARCH_X1444486589
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> danilo_: not the right network for this
[14:18] <cfhowlett> danilo_, free ride to my /ignore list!  spam elsewhere.
[14:18] <luc4> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/9uyxu0gm
[14:18] <luc4> lotuspsychje: I took this right after a resume where trackpad broke, but keyboard remained intact
[14:18] <luc4> lotuspsychje: other times both die
[14:19] <luc4> lotuspsychje: I see there is a funny trace below
[14:20] <luc4> lotuspsychje: but seems to be related to a bluetooth device. I have a bluetooth dongle plugged in. But may be related anyway.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> luc4: this doesnt like good: 0.220030] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored
[14:20] <boodllebat> ubuntu 15.04 is laggy :\
[14:20] <boodllebat> sometimes , like just after login startup
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> luc4: alot of acpi issues in your log, maybe try play with no_acpi in boot F6?
[14:22] <luc4> lotuspsychje: but without it I won’t have sleep anyway, will I?
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> luc4: doesnt look good neither: ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.XPLD] (Node ffff88041f0c8460), AE_AML_PACKAGE_LIMIT (20141107/psparse-536)
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> luc4: did you try this on 14.04?
[14:23] <luc4> lotuspsychje: but that is during initial boot right?
[14:23] <luc4> lotuspsychje: unfortunately no
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> luc4: i would start from there, see if acpi issues are less
[14:23] <luc4> lotuspsychje: I was using 14.10 probably, but don’t remember if the problem was in there as well
[14:24] <luc4> lotuspsychje: what should I expect with no_acpi?
[14:24] <luc4> lotuspsychje: I mean, will sleep work?
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> luc4: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> luc4: i would go for the easy way LTS :p
[14:26] <luc4> lotuspsychje: LTS?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> !lts | luc4
[14:27] <luc4> lotuspsychje: yes, I know what lts means, question was “easy way LTS?”
[14:27] <xStark> I got my 8GB ram and my swap is 7.95. Don't blame me, it automatically made it...
[14:27] <xStark> !trusty
[14:27] <fyf> I like Trusty
[14:27] <xStark> Same.
[14:27] <xStark> I'm gonna fresh install next LTS when it's out.
[14:27] <umpfag> hi
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> luc4: you can choose to fiddle with 15.04 acpi issues and add new bug, or fresh install 14.04
[14:28] <luc4> lotuspsychje: ok, that is more like “disaster lts” instead of “easy way”...
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> luc4: not sure for your case, but lts solves alot of issues
[14:28] <xStark> Just format / and fresh install, best thing I guess :P
[14:28] <luc4> lotuspsychje: easy way is “disable sleep and live without it” :-D
[14:29] <umpfag> the firmware of my craptop is very broken and not always xubuntu compatible. Sometimes, when turning it on, the wifi applet wont work and that means I have to reset the computer to get a working wifi applet. Im not talking about the embedded turn on-turn off option that get switched with fn+2, but purely a gui issue
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> luc4: but that wont solve your acpi issues
[14:29] <umpfag> is there any way to reset that applet from a cli?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> umpfag: xubuntu version and wifi xhipset plz?
[14:30] <luc4> lotuspsychje: I’ll live without that, if the solution is working with more than a year old software and fresh install again… ok, let’s disable sleep, thanks anyway for having a look.
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !latest | luc4 lts doesnt mean old
[14:32] <danilo_>  http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1444486868
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> !ops | danilo_ xdcc spam
[14:32] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: with respect, if it is a firmware issue i fail to see how switching to the lts helps
[14:33] <luc4> lotuspsychje: well, that actually means old, yes. Point is: more recent may not be better. But yes, even 15.04 has outdated packages…
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: i also pointed him to acpi boot options and bug reporting if he want to
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: i didnt see too much acpi issues on trusty before, and have installed alot of them
[14:34] <umpfag> xubuntu 15.04 64 bits and, how do I know my "xhipset"?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> umpfag: sudo lshw -C network
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> umpfag: wifi chipset that is
[14:35] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: wouldn't he still be using the same kernel that ships with 15.04 due to the enablement stack on lts anyway?
[14:35] <ProfMac> what is this spam emergency message about?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> ProfMac, it's spam.  ignore
[14:35] <umpfag> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12736292/
[14:38] <umpfag> so?
[14:39] <jain> Hello, I need some help
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !help | jain
[14:40] <fyf> What`s you problem?
[14:40] <fyf> jain --help
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> umpfag: did you add realtek firmware/driver yourself?
[14:40] <Guest40422> While installing OS on a new machine, i run into an error which says Csrow value is out of range
[14:45] <Guest40422> While installing OS on a new machine, i run into an error which says Csrow value is out of range. I try getting into the Command line at the start of the OS and set GFXPmode to 1024x768, but it is of no help
[14:46] <hemangpatel> Hi
[14:47] <hemangpatel> Is there any way to download packages on computer which has internet connection and install in another machine which doesn't have ?
[14:47] <auronandace> !aptoncd | hemangpatel
[14:47] <hemangpatel> I was checking keryx
[14:47] <umpfag> lotuspsychje,
[14:47] <umpfag> no
[14:48] <Guest40422> exit
[14:49] <hemangpatel> auronandace : I need packages in pendrive
[14:52] <root__> yes
[14:55] <Techspectre> There's no support channel for docky, so I hope no one minds if I ask this here. How do you change which monitor Docky displays on?
[14:57] <newbish> hey, anyone around?
[14:57] <root__> hello
[14:58] <EriC^^> what's up?
[14:58] <newbish> i need help with a fd ubuntu server
[14:58] <newbish> did apt-get went to reboot
[14:58] <newbish> won't reboot
[14:58] <newbish> booted into rescue
[14:58] <newbish> fixed packages
[14:58] <newbish> still won't reboot
[14:58] <newbish> what else to do?
[14:59] <newbish> remote only
[15:01] <don__> you did apt-get upgrade?
[15:01] <newbish> i did
[15:01] <newbish> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get check; apt-get autoremove; apt-get autoclean; apt-get clean
[15:01] <newbish> before the fuck up :D
[15:02] <cfhowlett> but not apt full-upgrade ??
[15:02] <newbish> upgrade yes, second on the list
[15:02] <newbish> not full
[15:02] <newbish> sorry
[15:02] <cfhowlett> nope
[15:02] <cfhowlett> apt-get dist-upgrade or apt full-upgrade         are not on the list
[15:02] <root__> &ban newbish
[15:02] <newbish> yeah didn't do that
[15:02] <newbish> *thos
[15:03] <newbish> *those
[15:05] <don__> can you check logs from rescue?
[15:08] <don__> is hexchat > xchat?
[15:09] <newbish> which logs and yes
[15:09] <cfhowlett> yes.  hexchat is supported. xchat is dead
[15:09] <don__> cat /var/logs/dmesg | less   maybe shows something i dont know
[15:09] <xStark> I'm with Irssi.
[15:10] <auronandace> xStark: you might like weecha as an alternative
[15:10] <auronandace> weechat
[15:10] <newbish> it's empy
[15:10] <xStark> I've tried weechat.
[15:10] <QQ> .
[15:10] <QQ> .
[15:10] <QQ> .
[15:10] <QQ> .
[15:10] <QQ> .
[15:10] <don__> try just cat /var/logs/dmesg
[15:10] <xStark> auronandace: I've tried weechat, found Irssi better lol
[15:10] <msev-> hey TJ-, wassup? :) Do you have time today for another session of helping msev with gpsd :)...manual now works for sure, and I put myself in the dialout group in the mean time...But I've found that not the service doesn't even automatically start (I dont need to stop the service since its not running)..dunno why
[15:10] <xStark> Tough decision
[15:11] <xStark> But yeah.
[15:11] <newbish> doesn't exist :(
[15:11] <newbish> i mounted /dev/md2
[15:11] <newbish> i did
[15:11] <newbish> mkdir /mnt/md2; mount /dev/md2 /mnt/md2; mount -t proc none /mnt/md2/proc; mount -t sysfs none /mnt/md2/sys; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/md2/dev; mount -o bind /dev/pts /mnt/md2/dev/pts; mount -o bind /tmp /mnt/md2/tmp; chroot /mnt/md2
[15:13] <don__> im sorry its /var/log/dmesg
[15:13] <don__> not logs*
[15:13] <TJ-> msev-: Hmmm, that sounds weird
[15:14] <msev-> yup
[15:14] <TJ-> msev-: You've done the basic like ensuring /etc/default/gpsd has START_DAEMON="true"  ?
[15:15] <msev-> yes i did dpkg-reconfigure which writes into this file
[15:15] <TJ-> msev-: OK, and it starts if you do "service gpsd start" ?
[15:15] <msev-> yes
[15:15] <msev-> well
[15:15] <TJ-> msev-: but it doesn't start from a power-on boot?
[15:16] <newbish> http://pastebin.com/mRPNSezs
[15:16] <msev-> please give me the command again to verify
[15:16] <msev-> I just booted it
[15:16] <TJ-> msev-: "service gpsd status"
[15:17] <msev-> it is running
[15:17] <msev-> so why was it just working when i did the command for gpsd again
[15:17] <msev-> i didnt have to sudo stop the service
[15:17] <gartral> hey all, I'm on 15.04 here and I have a problem with irssi, the alt-<number> window switching isn't working
[15:18] <QQ> .
[15:18] <QQ> .
[15:18] <QQ> .
[15:18] <QQ> d.
[15:18] <QQ> a.
[15:18] <TJ-> msev-: If the system service is running and you use gpsmon/some client, they'll connect to it by default. If you start a manual instance of gpsd it won't be able to bind to the localhost ports because the system service has them
[15:18] <msev-> start_deamon=true
[15:18] <QQ> ee.
[15:18] <msev-> TJ-, but it did
[15:18] <TJ-> msev-: Is that lower-case as you typed it, or really UPPER_CASE ?
[15:19] <msev-> no
[15:19] <msev-> upper case
[15:19] <msev-> :D
[15:19] <TJ-> msev-: OK... please ensure you show me things *exactly* as they are else I'll be chasing the wrong causes :)
[15:19] <msev-> ok
[15:20] <msev-> GPSD_OPTIONS= -n   DEVICES= /dev/rfcomm0  USBAUTO= true GPSD_SOCKET= /var/run/gpsd.sock
[15:20] <TJ-> msev-: if "service gpsd status" says the service is running then it is possible it started then bailed out unexpectedly. I suggest you do a clean reboot, log-in and immediately check the "service gpsd status" and *ALSO* "ps -efly | grep gpsd" to ensure there is a live process running
[15:22] <TJ-> msev-: if both of those show the system service is running, then you can connect the Bluetooth device, and then you need to send the "+/dev/rfcomm0\r" to the control socket to add the device
[15:22] <msev-> doing it
[15:22] <ioria> TJ- you got a minute ... ?
[15:22] <TJ-> msev-: remember, even though you have "DEVICES="/dev/rfcomm0" " in /etc/default/gpsd, that device DOES NOT exist when the service starts. It will only be created by the bluetooth daemon when you connect the Bluetooth device
[15:22] <TJ-> ioria: Sure
[15:23] <msev-> gpsd is running
[15:23] <TJ-> msev-: So, even though the service is running, you've got to MANUALLY tell it to add /dev/rfcomm0 once you've brought up the Bluetooth connection
[15:23] <ioria> TJ- thanx ...  on another ubuntu-chan i suggested the use of nomodeset in /etc/default/grub   and after the reboot she got this : http://prntscr.com/8ptydz
[15:24] <TJ-> ioria: The console log-in prompt in corruptese :D
[15:24] <msev-> also the ps gives the output that gpsd is running
[15:24] <TJ-> ioria: which GPU is it?
[15:24] <msev-> now i need to read what u wrote me
[15:25] <ioria> TJ-  omg.... she has an intel (lubuntu) 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[15:25] <TJ-> msev-: Right, so connect the Bluetooth device then send the command to the gpsd control socket telling it to add /dev/rfcomm0
[15:25] <TJ-> ioria: OK, which driver is it using? it looks like a font issue. Might be worth disabling the GRUB GFX mode so it uses text mode
[15:26] <TJ-> ioria: in /etc/default/grub "GRUB_TERMINAL=console"
[15:26] <newbish> TJ not to bombard you give help requested but did you see what i wrote earlier and able to help or should i start again later?
[15:26] <msev-> gotcha TJ-, so can you help me out with the command for telling the control socket (I'm a total noob that only know how to use ls cd and thats it hehe)
[15:26] <AnonymousAndy> Ayyyyy... tryna get Ubuntu Server Edition... but the flash drive I'm downloading to has Ubuntu Desktop 14.04.
[15:27] <AnonymousAndy> I'm not 100% on which files are for Ubuntu.
[15:27] <TJ-> msev-: we used it yesterday!
[15:27] <msev-> lol
[15:27] <msev-> lemme see
[15:27] <msev-> its not that gpsd one which i use normally right
[15:27] <TJ-> msev-: the "echo -e "+/dev/rfcomm0\r" | sudo tee /path/to/ctrl/socket" - you need to replace the /path/to/ctrl/socket with whatever your gpsd is using
[15:28] <msev-> oh yeah i didn't input that one
[15:28] <Spacy> lol was here for a different reason, but how do you set xchat to C/Posix/EN language? (starting with 'LANG=en_US.UTF-8 xchat' seems not to work)
[15:28] <TJ-> msev-: That is ALWAYS required if gpsd service starts BEFORE the Bluetooth connection is active. Otherwise, "sudo service gpsd restart" AFTER the Bluetooth device is connected should work
[15:29] <anonymousandy> Something happened and I couldn't type anymore.
[15:29] <anonymousandy> Not sure why.
[15:29] <anonymousandy> Anyway...
[15:29] <anonymousandy> the files I'm not sure about are...
[15:29] <msev-> so i'm gonna rewrite it ->"echo -e "+/dev/rfcomm0\r" | sudo tee /var/run/gpsd.sock"
[15:29] <msev-> does it look ok
[15:30] <msev-> and do i need all of the ""
[15:30] <anonymousandy> BOOTEX.LOG, md5sum.txt, README.diskdefines, WMPInfo.xml and wubi.exe
[15:30] <ioria> TJ- sorry, got disconnected... did you say something ?
[15:31] <TJ-> newbish: I didn't see the description of your issue, can you summarise?
[15:31] <TJ-> ioria: OK, which driver is it using? it looks like a font issue. Might be worth disabling the GRUB GFX mode so it uses text mode
[15:31] <TJ-> ioria: in /etc/default/grub "GRUB_TERMINAL=console"
[15:31] <technocf> I am installing Ubuntu on my new Toshiba Kira laptop.  Before I restated from Windows to do the installation I checked the disks and saw two restore partitions and the system reserved and the C partition.  4 in total.  Since I'm planning on leaving the restore alone (I did create another restore usb from windows) I chose other options in disk partitioning.  There are 5 partitions: Restore Data, Windows Boot Manager,
[15:31] <technocf> Windows System Reserved, Drive C, and Restore.  Is it safe to remove all of the windows partitions?
[15:31] <ioria> TJ- configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[15:32] <ioria> TJ-   she cannot open a console.... i made her before backup grub and tried a sudo cp grub.backup grub ... didn't work
[15:32] <TJ-> ioria: latency? is that PCI latency? That's usually 32 or 64
[15:33] <ioria> TJ-   onl old 256mb laptop
[15:33] <ioria> TJ-   32-bit
[15:33] <eredwood> hello every one
[15:33] <TJ-> ioria: with IGP? is it taking shared memory? if so, it may be an OOM issue
[15:33] <newbish> TJ- i ran the following command apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get check; apt-get autoremove; apt-get autoclean; apt-get clean, it got stuck so rebooted, tried again, finished, rebooted again but server wouldn't boot.
[15:34] <TJ-> ioria: might need to use the VESA driver instead of the Intel
[15:34] <newbish> TJ- rebooted server into rescue and did mkdir /mnt/md2; mount /dev/md2 /mnt/md2; mount -t proc none /mnt/md2/proc; mount -t sysfs none /mnt/md2/sys; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/md2/dev; mount -o bind /dev/pts /mnt/md2/dev/pts; mount -o bind /tmp /mnt/md2/tmp; chroot /mnt/md2
[15:34] <ioria> TJ-   82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[15:34] <newbish> TJ- after i fixed package problems, rebooted but still doesn't work, here's my dmesg http://pastebin.com/mRPNSezs
[15:34] <ioria> TJ-   it's possible she installed the wrong .iso ?
[15:34] <TJ-> ioria: I would suspect the i915 driver might have broken support for such older GPU
[15:35] <TJ-> ioria: which ubuntu release is it?
[15:35] <ioria> TJ-   i see
[15:35] <ioria> TJ-   lubuntu 14.04
[15:35] <TJ-> ioria: I have a couple of similar devices here, they need a nonpae kernel I think, but obviously that isn't the case here
[15:36] <ioria> TJ-   a fresh install ?   because all the windows, she said, were puzzled
[15:36] <eredwood> I can some one help me with a centos 6 question or can you tell me the best chat room to get help with centos 6
[15:37] <ioria> TJ-   right.... i didn't ask for the cpu ...
[15:37] <cfhowlett> eredwood, centos?  No, that is certainly not ubuntu
[15:37] <cfhowlett> !alis | eredwood find it with alis
[15:37] <phaidros> I wonder why there is no utopic dist on the package mirrors anymore. is it already EOL or am I just doing it plain plain wrong?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> !utopic | phaidros
[15:37] <cfhowlett> in other words ... It's dead, Jim.
[15:38] <phaidros> cfhowlett: Bones .. Re-Animate!
[15:38] <phaidros> !upgrade
[15:39] <TJ-> newbish: what system is this on? I see the kernel is OVH. Is it a dedicated server (since it appears to be bare-metal in that it reports raw hard drive model)
[15:39] <eredwood> Thank you cfhowlett
[15:39] <cfhowlett> eredwood, happy2help!
[15:39] <phaidros> cfhowlett: so, now how to go from trusty to vivid, if there is no utopic anymore? (usually I went through all the intermediate versions to get a complete upgrade path ..)
[15:39] <newbish> TJ- yeah ovh dedi, 14.04
[15:39] <TJ-> ioria: I think it's a memory issue, it is showing corruption. That may be due to the 'nomodeset', most drivers rely on it these days
[15:39] <akik> ioria: you can set the gfxmode also in the grub boot menu, it's the line with "gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode". the new value would be "gfxmode text"
[15:40] <cfhowlett> phaidros, trusty is long term support.  vivid ... ain't.  are you SURE this is what you want to do?  9 months support with vivid.
[15:40] <ioria> akik, thank you :-)
[15:40] <phaidros> cfhowlett: yeah, I really bahved this time, tho I cannot stick to LTS .. so, I go back to do all the upgrade fun :/ ..
[15:40] <ioria> TJ-   i see.... so no nomodeset possible ....
[15:41] <phaidros> cfhowlett: I just wonder if there might be an "old versions" mirror for those purposes
[15:41] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | phaidros or do a clean install of vivid
[15:41] <phaidros> cfhowlett: no way. system is complex and huge. this would take to much time
[15:41] <TJ-> newbish: lines 702-730 seem to show the problem. Trying to build MD devices from the wrong pairs of raw partitions I think
[15:41] <cfhowlett> EOLupgrade is your option then
[15:42] <phaidros> cfhowlett: I do ubuntu since breeze badger .. and wenn from 6.06 to 10 or even 11 with regular upgrades on the same machine and only had to reinstall because of a hd failure.
[15:42] <phaidros> I was always proud of ubuntu to actually achieve that (with a little help from debian, tho ..)
[15:43] <newbish> TJ- how would apt-get change that? Also how would i fix it?
[15:43] <TJ-> ioria: Don't quote me on that but the intel driver is open-source and uses all the standard kernel services so I wouldn't be suprised if that is the problem. Try a boot into Recovery, remove 'nomodeset', add "GRUB_TERMINAL=console", update-gub, and reboot
[15:43] <phaidros> thanks for the hint to EOLUpgrade!
[15:43] <xStark> Well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion says that you don't need to format the / partition to clean install Ubuntu.
[15:43] <ioria> TJ-   ok.... but she cannot even enter the grub screen with shift ...
[15:44] <TJ-> newbish: apt-get may cause a dpkg-reconfigure in the background. You need to use the mdadm tool to analyse the UUIDs of the raw devices, and look at /etc/mdadm.conf in case it has the wrong config
[15:44] <herrkin> hi community. I have a problem of user permissions
[15:44] <TJ-> ioria: it is GRUB2? if it was an upgrade from an older release I seem to recall GRUB v1 can be left in-place - we are dealing with /boot/grub/grub.cfg not /boot/grub/grub.lst ?
[15:45] <msev> TJ-, I pasted this -> sudo bash -c 'echo -e "+/dev/rfcomm0\r" | tee /var/run/gpsd.sock'
[15:45] <newbish> TJ- /etc/mdadm.conf doesn't exist?
[15:45] <ioria> TJ-   no absolute fresh install... she stopped using it because of the windows puzzled...
[15:45] <herrkin> I have configured apache2 to serve /home/myuser/webfolder I added myuser to the apache group, apache then serves the folder
[15:45] <newbish> TJ- i have to install it duh
[15:46] <msev> and got and got   tee: var run gpsd.sock no such device or address
[15:46] <gartral> hey all, I'm on 15.04 here and I have a problem with irssi, the alt-<number> window switching isn't working
[15:46] <herrkin> but I noticed that while I am logged into the system (the terminal) apache does serve the web perfect.
[15:46] <TJ-> newbish: sorry! "/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf"
[15:46] <herrkin> but as soon as I am logged out of the system apache throws 403 forbidden
[15:46] <herrkin> logs say the symlink is not accesible
[15:46] <auronandace> xStark: if you didn't format then that would be an upgrade, it would be a clean install if you did format
[15:46] <herrkin> what can I be doing wrong?
[15:47] <akik> how i hate the trend to "make the boot visually pleasing by hiding information"
[15:47] <TJ-> msev: the sudo is in the wrong place. "echo -e "+/dev/rfcomm0\r" | sudo tee /var/run/gpsd.sock"
[15:47] <Spacy> Hi all - I got a little (actually pretty big) problem with TB on ubuntu 14.04 unity. When I start TB it comes up, but the window disappears around 3-4 seconds after that. I managed to see the window again for a few sec with the mail indicator in unity tray icons. It seemed to have started since Wednesday or Thursday
[15:47] <TJ-> newbish: mdadm doesn't need mdadm.conf if the devices have 1.x metadata; they can autoconfigure
[15:47] <OS_Connoisseur> What's TB?
[15:47] <TJ-> newbish: which is why I suggest using 'mdadm' to examine the raw partitions to ensure the UUIDs for the array are correct
[15:48] <newbish> TJ- what am i comparing the UUIDs to from?
[15:48] <newbish> TJ- if you know what i mean?
[15:48] <msev> still TJ-
[15:48] <msev> no such device etc
[15:48] <msev> i don't have the thing connected atm
[15:49] <Spacy> Process is still running and actually I see (occasionally) a "new" window asking for credentials that are not in secure storage.
[15:49] <msev> is it dependant on being connected
[15:49] <TJ-> newbish: each array member contains metadata. The UUID for the array those members are part of should be the same
[15:50] <TJ-> msev: I keep telling you this! The device MUST BE connected
[15:51] <msev-> oh
[15:51] <msev-> but how should it be connected if it has to be choosen as "serial" each time in blueman
[15:51] <msev-> it is paired
[15:51] <msev-> should it just be paired
[15:52] <DexterF> hi
[15:52] <Spacy> Ah and second question would be if another channel would be a better bet? maybe one  unity or mozilla related one?
[15:52] <TJ-> msev-: That is what I have been telling you. The Bluetooth device MUST be connected and the serial /dev/rfcomm0 node present BEFORE you can tell gpsd to add it
[15:52] <msev-> aha
[15:52] <msev-> so basically I think I can't automize this
[15:53] <DexterF> 15.04 live, gparted, intel SSD: gparted says "driver says 2048 block size, linux says 512, cancel or ignore". can I safely ignore, align to 1MB and be ok or is there any real problem with that?
[15:53] <msev-> since each time i have to choose its a serial connection
[15:53] <msev-> between audio, network and serial, in blueman
[15:53] <TJ-> msev-: not unless you add the Bluetooth device to the bluetooth daemon config files so it is connected at system start, before gpsd starts. You don't have to use a GUI for that
[15:55] <TJ-> msev-: the system bluetoothd daemon has config files under /etc/bluetooth/. It is possible to put device entries in those files to connect to a device and create rfcomm sockets. You'd need to read the bluetooth documentation for that.
[15:55] <msev-> yes
[15:55] <msev-> reading it :)
[15:55] <msev-> cool thanks so far TJ- you gave me another hint :)
[15:56] <SopaXT> Hi, I once had a problem of wifi hardblocked on my Lenovo TP Edge E330
[15:56] <SopaXT> Fixed using lenovo toolbox for windows
[15:57] <TJ-> newbish: I don't seem too much wrong with the mdadm bring-up of md2/md4 - assuming they don't have partition tables on them
[16:01] <newbish> TJ- http://pastebin.com/u4V4ZczL
[16:01] <alexes> Suppose I'm writing a deb package. If I release and install v1.0.0 on a machine, and release 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 in the meantime. How does apt-get upgrade resolve the upgrade? Does it go directly to 1.0.2?
[16:03] <alexes> I'm trying to understand how to go about designing an upgrade process for a package I'm creating. Does every version include a set of "script migrations" that are only applied if they haven't already been applied? (Similar to DB schema migrations)
[16:05] <_jam> I'm trying to move my laptop from an HDD to an SSD. Using parted, i created a GPT partition on the whole disk and set the bios_grub flag
[16:05] <SopaXT> Someone with nick 'fyf' just pmd me hi and vanished
[16:06] <_jam> then I created an ext4 partition and mounted it, and rsync'd / over to the new drive, excluding /dev, /proc, /sys, /tmp, /run
[16:06] <_jam> then i mounted dev dev/pts sys and proc with --bind to the respective locations on the new disk and chroot'd to the new disk
[16:07] <_jam> and then I ran some grub-install commands
[16:07] <_jam> then I moved the disk into my laptop and tried to boot from it . . .nadda
[16:07] <_jam> I just get a blinking cursor
[16:07] <DJones> alexes: It might be worth joining #ubuntu-devel thats a general development channel thats linked from the packaging wiki, somebody there may have an answer
[16:08] <alexes> Thanks!
[16:08] <_jam> plug the old harddrive in via usb enclosure, and can boot from that. and mount the SSD that's in the laptop
[16:08] <_jam> ...what is going on?
[16:09] <_jam> (remember when people preferred grub to lilo because you didn't have to run magical commands to get it to work after upgrades, just had to edit a config file....)
[16:11] <_jam> the fs has complained a couple of times about having been unmounted uncleanly, and running fsck did modify some stuff
[16:11] <_jam> are the grub install commands screwing up the fs somehow? that seems unlikely
[16:12] <_jam> should probably note i'm on 14.04...trying to upgrade, but needed the new disk first
[16:13] <kfreynolds> hello
[16:13] <TJ-> newbish: the arrays look fine, so the issue is likely in the initial ramdisk. Do you have remote KVM console access during boot ?
[16:14] <kfreynolds> anyone know how to resolve this error?   "gi.RepositoryError: Typelib file for namespace 'GdkPixbuf', version '2.0' not found"
[16:14] <xStark> This guide is accurate, right? https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/upgrade
[16:15] <TJ-> _jam: i'd guess the 'grub-install' isn't writing to the correct device. what device name are you giving it?
[16:15] <newbish> TJ- i can test ram etc. but no KVM. I really don't think it's hardware though
[16:15] <newbish> TJ- if i reinstalled it would boot fine
[16:15] <newbish> TJ- that's not an option at the moment though due to data
[16:15] <_jam> TJ- it should be the right device. when it was in the usb enclosure, i was giving it /dev/sdb ; now that it is in the laptop, i give /dev/sda
[16:16] <_jam> I've checked these are correct by referencing the uuids
[16:17] <_jam> TJ- i was thinking that maybe I need to recreate the partition and leave some blank space at the beginning of the disk for grub?
[16:17] <_jam> i don't think this laptop is UEFI, it's 5 years old or so (X200)
[16:18] <TJ-> newbish: I wasn't suggesting a hardware issue; if it fails to assemble the MD devices thats an initial ramdisk issue, so having KVM access to the initrd busybox prompt is necessary
[16:19] <kfreynolds> "gi.RepositoryError: Typelib file for namespace 'GdkPixbuf', version '2.0' not found"      anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
[16:19] <Spacy> Hi all - I got a little (actually pretty big) problem with TB on ubuntu 14.04 unity. When I start TB it comes up, but the window disappears around 3-4 seconds after that. I managed to see the window again for a few sec with the mail indicator in unity tray icons. It seemed to have appeared since Wednesday or Thursday.Process is still running and actually I see (occasionally) a "new" window asking for credentials that are not in secure stor
[16:19] <Spacy> age....
[16:19] <Spacy> I would have a few more indicators (and am a developer myself, java though) if anyone would be able to help.
[16:19] <Spacy> Also would be very grateful if anyone can point me to a more appropriate channel.
[16:19] <_jam> TJ- I also double checked that the UUID is correct in /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:19] <newbish> TJ- Ah ok, misunderstood. Though no KVM i'm afraid, what else to do?
[16:20] <mauro_> buonaseraaaaa a tutti
[16:20] <TJ-> _jam: OK, if it is doing a legacy BIOS boot there are 3 things required: bootstrap code in sector 0 (MBR), GRUB core.img either in slack sectors from sector 1 to beginning of 1st partition *OR*, with GPT, in a BIOS boot paritition of at least 1MB (I give it 4MB to be sure), and then the /boot/grub/* files, either in a separate /boot/file-system or in the root file-system
[16:22] <TJ-> newbish: It might be as simple as regenerating the initrd.img (capture the build log too to check it added the MD ssupport): "update-initramfs -vu -k <kernel-version> |& tee /tmp/initrd.log"
[16:22] <_jam> TJ- ok, does this bios boot partitio nneed to be at the beginning of the disk (i.e. wipe partitions and recreate everything)?
[16:22] <newbish> TJ- somehow now i get this http://pastebin.com/WzQhRgta
[16:23] <TJ-> _jam: It needs to be in reach of the bootstrap code. If bootstrap loaded and it couldn't find the BIOS Boot parition it's report that. If you get a flashing cursor top-left, that suggests the BIOS is loading random bytes into memory and that the bootstrap code is NOT in sector 0.
[16:24] <TJ-> newbish: That's a mess! That suggests a severe corruption of some kind somewhere
[16:24] <_jam> ok, that sounds like a yes
[16:24] <newbish> TJ- uname -a only gives me the rescue kernal not kernal of system i want?
[16:24] <TJ-> _jam: here, check the code that's in the sector 0: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C" (assuming sdb is the SSD)
[16:25] <newbish> TJ- i thought so but where and how to fix?
[16:25] <TJ-> newbish: right, you'd need to put the correct kernel version in. Look in /boot/
[16:25] <TJ-> newbish: if udev and friends aren't configured, that needs fixing first
[16:25] <newbish> System.map-3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64  bzImage-3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64
[16:26] <newbish> TJ- dpkg-reconfigure all of those?
[16:26] <_jam> TJ-: haha, i'm not up on reading hexdumps. what am I looking for there?
[16:26] <TJ-> newbish: start with this: "Can't symlink /run/lock to /var/lock; please fix manually." ... I think you need to exit the chroot, umount it if you --bind mounted it, and re-enter the chroot
[16:27] <TJ-> _jam: any ASCII text that looks intelligable, and especially has the GRUB text
[16:27] <TJ-> _jam: here's one: Can't symlink /run/lock to /var/lock; please fix manually.
[16:27] <TJ-> _jam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12738185/
[16:28] <TJ-> _jam: sorry, pasted the wrong thing to begin with :)
[16:28] <newbish> TJ- but didn't i already do that earlier with mkdir /mnt/md2; mount /dev/md2 /mnt/md2; mount -t proc none /mnt/md2/proc; mount -t sysfs none /mnt/md2/sys; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/md2/dev; mount -o bind /dev/pts /mnt/md2/dev/pts; mount -o bind /tmp /mnt/md2/tmp; chroot /mnt/md2
[16:28] <newbish> TJ- or am i being blind?
[16:28] <newhoa> Hey, not sure if this is the right place to ask but I was trying to back up a hard drive with Windows on it from Linux. I would like to backup the partitions and the MBR/GPT. I usually do this using dd if=drive1 of=destination.img bs=512 count=whatever. Where count is the last sector of the last partition I want to backup (ignoring the unallocated space)
[16:28] <TJ-> newbish: Sorry, I thought originally I saw a bind mount of /run/  ... I must have imagined it
[16:29] <newhoa> I was wondering if there was a count equivalent for ddrescue where I could tell it to stop?
[16:29] <TJ-> newhoa: in which case attend to this: "rmdir: failed to remove '/run/lock': Directory not empty"
[16:29] <TJ-> Grrrr, darned tab-complete! sorry newhoa
[16:29] <TJ-> newbish: in which case attend to this: "rmdir: failed to remove '/run/lock': Directory not empty"
[16:29] <Josh0605> tripkin
[16:30] <TJ-> newhoa: if you're backing up existing good partitions just use "dd if=/dev/sdXY ..." where Y is the partition number. You don't need a count= then
[16:30] <_jam> TJ- yea, that actually looks about the same as mine
[16:31] <TJ-> _jam: OK, in which case we check the BIOS boot partition
[16:31] <_jam> which doesn't exist
[16:31] <newhoa> Thanks you all but I'm trying to backup the GPT and all the partitions - the unallocated space at the end.
[16:32] <newhoa> To be able to restore them in one go exactly as they are.
[16:32] <farhan__> where is wifi conection icon in linux ubuntu kde
[16:32] <newbish> TJ- should i touch /etc/init.d/systemd-logind?
[16:33] <farhan__> hi
[16:33] <farhan__> where is wifi conection icon in linux ubuntu kde
[16:33] <newbish> TJ- or another way to fix that not being fond
[16:33] <newbish> *found
[16:33] <farhan__> help
[16:33] <farhan__> where is wifi conection icon in linux ubuntu kde
[16:33] <farhan__> help
[16:33] <farhan__> me
[16:33] <highdivr_> |-}
[16:34] <farhan__> anyone tell me
[16:34] <farhan__> where is wifi conection icon in linux ubuntu kde
[16:34] <farhan__> anyone tell me
[16:34] <farhan__> me
[16:34] <arbir_> hello
[16:35] <OS_Connoisseur> farhan__ Right click the panel. You should be able to add the network applet.
[16:35] <_jam> TJ- ok, i'm going to need to repartition, shutdown, and recopy a couple hundred gigs of data. looks like other sources agree with what you are saying
[16:36] <_jam> TJ-: thanks for the help
[16:36] <farhan__> i add network
[16:36] <farhan__> but i write in linux
[16:36] <kfreynolds> Hello everyone
[16:37] <farhan__> i fine
[16:37] <farhan__> but i write in linux ubuntu kde
[16:37] <TJ-> _jam: I think you need to check the content of the BIOS boot partition in a similar way. I should contain the text "Hah!IdontNeedEFI"
[16:37] <arbir> Hello
[16:38] <_jam> TJ-: noted.
[16:38] <tech> http://pilgoo.tistory.com
[16:38] <tech> http://pilgoo.blogspot.com/
[16:38] <tech> https://plus.google.com/118418077477058428036/posts
[16:39] <TJ-> _jam: Actually, ignore that. That string is in the slack space, not the BIOS boot partition
[16:39] <newbish> TJ- should i touch /etc/init.d/systemd-logind or is there another way to fix that error?
[16:39] <arbir> test
[16:39] <xela2244> W: Failed to fetch http://sm.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[16:40] <arbir> I am unable to launch the PHP development server on my box. I am on 14.04
[16:40] <TJ-> newbish: that file should be a full init script, touching it won't fix anything
[16:40] <newbish> where would i get a copy?
[16:40] <arbir> i keep getting
[16:40] <arbir> PHP Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[16:41] <newbish> TJ- or shall we trade :P
[16:42] <TJ-> newbish: If you use gdisk/sgdisk/cgdisk to backup the GPT, and back-up each partition separately, they can be written to another device. With "sgdisk --move-second-header" you can then ensure the secondary GPT on the clone disk is in the correct location
[16:42] <farhan__> os connoisseur thanks
[16:42] <kfreynolds> Does anyone know how to resolve this? "gi.RepositoryError: Typelib file for namespace 'GdkPixbuf', version '2.0' not found"
[16:42] <newbish> TJ- i didn't set backups :(
[16:43] <arbir> hello newbish
[16:43] <TJ-> newbish: It is installed when the package is installed. So you've got to fix those errors revealed by 'apt-get -f install' one at a time until the system is in a state to continue
[16:43] <farhan__> os connoisseur thanks
[16:44] <TJ-> newbish: fix the /run/lock issues, then retry the operation, fix the first error reported, retry the operation, and loop like that until apt-get can progress and no more errors are reported
[16:44] <arbir> hello TJ-
[16:44] <TJ-> newbish: at that point rebuild the initrd.img for the kernel that is booted
[16:44] <DizAzTor> yo
[16:45] <newbish> TJ- but this is all that i have left now http://pastebin.com/c9zy79Wi
[16:45] <JFlash> hi, I need update from ubuntu 14.10 to something newer
[16:46] <JFlash> i tried to run the updater but it keeps saying failed to download repo information
[16:46] <JFlash> on a side note, I only have 13 gig free, will this be enough?
[16:47] <newbish> TJ- also how am i going to rebuild the initrd.img on a remote server?
[16:47] <newbish> TJ- locally i could just use a cd
[16:47] <TJ-> newbish: Sorry, I had lost track of where you were. That might just be a bad symlink under one of the /etc/rc*.d/ directories, since I don't see that script name in any package
[16:47] <TJ-> newbish: rebuilding initrd is trivial; use the command I gave some time ago for that.
[16:48] <newbish> what's my kernal then?
[16:48] <newbish> boot ->
[16:48] <newbish> System.map-3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64  bzImage-3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64
[16:49] <newbish> TJ- could you also tell me the command again, i forget to write it down :D
[16:49] <TJ-> newbish: kernel version would be "3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64"
[16:50] <twstxgha> hi
[16:50] <TJ-> newbish: "update-initramfs -vu -k <kernel-version> |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" <- that is the --verbose version that reports everything it does and lets you capture to a log file
[16:50] <twstxgha> after some stupid update i canot login to ubuntu
[16:50] <twstxgha> i get login screen in gnome
[16:51] <twstxgha> but after i enter password it blinks a bit
[16:51] <twstxgha> and then nothing
[16:51] <twstxgha> what to do
[16:52] <JFlash> please someone help me. I stuck with an old version of ubuntu and I can't update it or even run apt-get upgrade
[16:52] <TJ-> newbish: "apt-file search /etc/init.d/systemd-logind" reports zero results, so if there is a link to that file, it didn't come from the Ubuntu archives.
[16:52] <JFlash> I could as well sit and die
[16:53] <twstxgha> cyrl alt f2 logged me in shell auccessfully
[16:53] <TJ-> newbish: so do "ls -l /etc/rc*.d/ | grep systemd" and see if there is a hanging link there that matches it
[16:53] <twstxgha> but something wih gnome is fucked up
[16:53] <twstxgha> some help pla
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> twstxgha  mind the language and specify the issue
[16:55] <OS_Connoisseur> Is there a way for me to install gcc 3.3 in Ubuntu 14.04? I'm compiling a program that breaks with newer versions of gcc?
[16:56] <newbish> TJ- that found nothing, i did however do find / -type l >> /root/symlinks.log but can't see anything
[16:56] <tech> hello
[16:56] <tech> hihihihi
[16:56] <tech> ???
[16:56] <tech> anybody help me
[16:56] <tech> ????????
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> tech  this is the ubuntu support channel
[16:57] <TJ-> newbish: OK, lets trace the failing command when all else fails :)
[16:58] <twstxgha> should I remove xauthroty
[16:58] <TJ-> newbish: "strace -f -o /tmp/libpam-cfg.log  -e trace=file dpkg --configure libpam-systemd"
[16:58] <twstxgha> i dont have unity
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> twstxgha  why would you want to and what do you have, if it's not unity
[16:59] <twstxgha> i have unity
[16:59] <twstxgha> and gnome
[16:59] <twstxgha> but its not starting
[17:00] <twstxgha> all of the sudden
[17:00] <jeffrey_f> twstxgha: please repeat the original question, Just came in
[17:01] <twstxgha> yhats question
[17:01] <twstxgha> unity not starting
[17:01] <corba> hi, why are the advantages of debian? and why do people whoved used linux for a long time always say good thigns about debian¿
[17:01] <TJ-> corba: Try asking in #debian
[17:02] <corba> TJ-, ok, thanks
[17:02] <twstxgha> jeffrey whatvto do
[17:03] <jeffrey_f> twstxgha: delete the following from the root of your HOME folder  the following folders: .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2_private and the following files, .ICEauthority
[17:03] <twstxgha> xauthrotiy removed
[17:03] <jeffrey_f> twstxgha: then log out and log back in
[17:03] <twstxgha> ok
[17:04] <twstxgha> i removed xauthrotiy  too
[17:04] <jeffrey_f> twstxgha: This has ALWAYS fixed that issue for me.....
[17:06] <twstxgha> gow to logout
[17:06] <twstxgha> i have no button
[17:07] <hex__> good evening, i have an error message when trying to run Kali in VitualBox.  I ask on this Board as i think its related directly to the OS.  can you please advise. Message: This Kernel requires an x86-64 cpu, but only detected an i686 CPU.
[17:07] <hex__> unable to boot - please use a Kernel appropriate for your CPU.
[17:08] <TJ-> hex__: this isn't a support channel for Kali
[17:08] <twstxgha> nope
[17:08] <twstxgha> didnt helped
[17:08] <jeffrey_f> hex__: you are trying to run a 64bit on a 32bit os.
[17:09] <hex__> Jeffrey ok but i cant download a 64bit version of Virtual box?  my current system is 64bit
[17:10] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:10] <newbish> TJ- there's 2496 lines in the log, i'm finding it hard to share it cause even xclip doesn't work
[17:10] <farhan_> please anyone tell me
[17:10] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:10] <newbish> TJ- the strace log
[17:10] <ioria> !op
[17:10] <farhan_> please anyone tell me
[17:10] <ioria> sorry
[17:10] <OerHeks> !kali > hex, not here
[17:10] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:11] <farhan_> please anyone tell me
[17:11] <TJ-> newbish: "pastebinit /path/to/log" maybe?
[17:11] <pauljw> hex__: you should be able to select 64 bit linux when you go to setup kali in virtualbox
[17:11] <OerHeks> farhan_, muon softwarecenter
[17:11] <pauljw> hex__: we should no longer discuss this here
[17:11] <hex__> paul, it only shows the 32bit  stuff??
[17:11] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:12] <newbish> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12739184/ , not going to lie didn't even know about this one, learning from the best ;)
[17:12] <farhan_> what is muon sofwarecenter
[17:12] <farhan_> q
[17:12] <OerHeks> farhan_, search in kubuntu for software, muon shows up
[17:13] <farhan_> oerheks
[17:13] <TJ-> newbish: if pastebinit isn't available, you can pipe text out via netcat with "cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999"  too
[17:13] <farhan_> ihave not muonsofware
[17:14] <TJ-> newbish: look at those "/etc/rc*.d/" paths, looks like a variable failed to expand to a number: "/etc/rcunknown.d/"
[17:14] <OerHeks> farhan_, yes you do. type muon in the search bar
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> !muon | farhan_
[17:14] <farhan_> i have browser command line
[17:15] <farhan_> it side i write
[17:15] <jeffrey_f> twstxgha: ctl-alt-F2 - (ctl-alt-F7 to get back) can you get a terminal session??
[17:15] <farhan_> in browser
[17:16] <twstxgha> i fixed it
[17:16] <twstxgha> installed custom amd driver...
[17:16] <jeffrey_f> twstxgha: AH. good!!
[17:16] <OerHeks> farhan_, you need to install software trough softwarecenter (muon), installing software from other sources is not supported here.
[17:16] <farhan_> ubottu and monkeydust
[17:16] <twstxgha> thanks bye
[17:17] <farhan_> in browser
[17:17] <farhan_> i download it
[17:17] <newbish> TJ- what am i looking for? they all coming out to rcunkown
[17:17] <shawn_> i all i just installed ubuntu, any suggestions as to what i should do first?
[17:18] <baizon> shawn_: install the software u want to use :D
[17:18] <TJ-> newbish: I'd have expected those to be numbers, there is no 'unknown'
[17:18] <TJ-> newbish: do "ls -d /etc/rc*.d" and you'll see what to expect
[17:20] <newbish> TJ- i know there's no unknown but i got lost as to what i was meant to be looking for, so i know the dirs and now i....?
[17:20] <esteeb> shawn_: I like this article http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[17:20] <newbish> TJ- maybe it's late or i've been on this for a while that's why i'm missing the ball here :D
[17:22] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:22] <ikonia> farhan_: you use the package manager
[17:22] <farhan_> help
[17:22] <ikonia> farhan_: it will list all the availabile software in the kubuntu repos
[17:22] <chiefahol> package manager is the first place you should go for new software
[17:22] <chiefahol> using package manager will ensure good compatibility
[17:22] <chiefahol> :)
[17:23] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:23] <ikonia> farhan_: you've just been told
[17:23] <ikonia> farhan_: use the package manager (muion)
[17:24] <farhan_> i tell
[17:24] <ikonia> that will list available software for you
[17:24] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:24] <ikonia> farhan_: please stop
[17:24] <ikonia> farhan_: you've just been told a second time
[17:24] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:24] <ikonia> muon is the name of the package manager
[17:24] <ikonia> use that
[17:24] <farhan_> how we download any app in linux ubuntu kde
[17:24] <ikonia> this is the last time you will be told
[17:24] <Fatar> lmao
[17:26] <chiefahol> fukin lol
[17:26] <ikonia> chiefahol: tone down the langauge please, there is no need for it and it's not welcome
[17:27] <chiefahol> sorry my bad
[17:27] <ikonia> not a problem
[17:27] <TJ-> newbish: it seems as if the configure script is incorrectly generating 'unknown' - or that might be just a messy bit of code. it is looking for a sysv-init 'systemd-login' script that does NOT exist in any Ubuntu package. We need to find out WHY it is looking for that
[17:29] <newbish> TJ- note to self stop using outdated webmin for updates
[17:29] <newbish> TJ- where's my go to from here?
[17:30] <TJ-> newbish: OK, found it! It's in the package postinst (post installation) script. Look at "/var/lib/dpkg/info/libpam-systemd:amd64.postinst"
[17:31] <TJ-> newbish: I've pastebinned here so we can talk line-numbers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12739476/
[17:31] <newbish> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12739482/
[17:31] <TJ-> newbish: the root cause is a call to "update-rc.d systemd-logind defaults" ... track back through the if conditions from that and you can see what can cause that to be executed
[17:32] <TJ-> newbish: line 15 is the thing we need to focus on; there are 2 conditions either of which can trigger the command
[17:33] <newbish> TJ- what does -x and -e mean?
[17:33] <TJ-> newbish: "-x "/etc/init.d/systemd-logind"  " - "-x" tests if the file is executable. "-e" tests if the file exists
[17:33] <TJ-> newbish: So, do "ls -l /etc/init.d/systemd-login /etc/init/systemd-logind.conf"
[17:34] <newbish> TJ- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1183 Oct 29  2014 /etc/init/systemd-logind.conf
[17:34] <newbish> it's not writable
[17:34] <newbish> *writeable
[17:34] <newbish> *wait is -x for w or for x?
[17:35] <TJ-> newbish: There is no "/etc/init.d/systemd-logind" (which tests -x) so we focus on "/etc/init/systemd-logind.conf" which tests -e
[17:35] <lorenzo522> hello
[17:36] <propernewb> TJ- see what i did there, i need coffee ahahaha
[17:36] <TJ-> newbish: then, on the next line (16) it only calls "update-rc.d ..." if the file DOES NOT exist "! -e "/etc/init/systemd-logind.conf" "
[17:36] <Turntable> hi
[17:37] <Turntable> i'm trying to install ubuntu studio on my pc but i got a black screen after "try without installing"
[17:37] <Turntable> can anyone help me?
[17:37] <propernewb> TJ- there's no file at init.d and the file does exit at init so do i have to change some code or comment it out?
[17:37] <AndroUser> Ubuntu is pathetic distro
[17:37] <TJ-> propernewb: now, from the strace and the other errors it appears "update-rc.d ..." IS being executed. Lets double-check that in the strace log
[17:37] <ikonia> don't use it then
[17:37] <ikonia> simple solution
[17:37] <AndroUser> It is the worst distro ever made
[17:37] <ikonia> don't use it then
[17:37] <ikonia> if you've just come here to complain, please don't bother
[17:38] <TJ-> propernewb: I think we have a postinst script bug here; your config is identical to a 14.04 chroot I'm working in, here
[17:38] <mcphail> AndroUser: this is the support channel. Direct abuse to #ubuntu-troll
[17:38] <Turntable> so no one can help me?
[17:38] <ikonia> mcphail: please dont give out non-existant channels
[17:38] <AndroUser> Ubuntu is a failure
[17:38] <AndroUser> My ubuntu is not booting
[17:38] <ikonia> he's been asked to stop - leave it there
[17:38] <propernewb> TJ- should i /nick Bountyhunter for finding a bug?
[17:38] <propernewb> :D
[17:39] <TJ-> propernewb: let's work the code through in our heads to identify the cause, first!
[17:39] <Turntable> :(
[17:39] <esteeb> Turntable: Patience is key on IRC. Someone will probably be able to help you.
[17:40] <propernewb> TJ- you'll have to hold my hand then cause i don't know what some abbreviations etc means
[17:40] <AndroUser> Ubuntu is garbage
[17:40] <ikonia> AndroUser: last warning, stop
[17:40] <Turntable> esteeb thanks anyway
[17:41] <mcphail> Turntable: which version of Ubuntu studio are you using, and which graphics card do you have?
[17:41] <reddeath68> I'm looking for some help with a inconsistent crash between java and firefox(viewing youtube videos), while using ubuntu 14.04 (the java app is run through wine for various reasons)
[17:41] <AndroUser> Linux mint is much better than ubuntu
[17:41] <lorenzo522> &log
[17:41] <TJ-> propernewb: line 1978 of the strace log shows the call in question is in fact the "invoke-rc.d ..." from line 19 of the postinst script
[17:41] <Turntable> mcphail i'm using ubuntu studio 15.04 and i have an amd radeon r9 290
[17:41] <lorenzo522> \log
[17:41] <ikonia> reddeath68: youtube does not use java
[17:41] <mcphail> Turntable: and you get a completely black screen, or corrupted screen, or flashing cursor?
[17:41] <Twirl> hi, anyone knows where to get more color profiles for ICC?
[17:42] <lorenzo522> &help
[17:42] <Turntable> totally black screen, and sometimes a blinking cursor in the top left angle
[17:42] <reddeath68> @ikonia I have two monitors and am running a java app on one monitor while watching youtube on the other
[17:42] <Twirl> i have like 17 different color profiles but i would like to try a couple more please ?
[17:42] <Turntable> flashing cursor*
[17:42] <ikonia> reddeath68: so what has that got to do with java/youtube
[17:42] <lorenzo522> &action
[17:43] <mcphail> Turntable: have you tried booting with "nomodeset" yet?
[17:43] <ikonia> they are two seperate things
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> what's ICC?
[17:43] <Turntable> yes but i got nomodeset command not found...
[17:43] <reddeath68> ikonia, having both the program and firefox open watching youtube causes it to randomly crash normally freezing or rebooting my entire system randomly
[17:44] <ikonia> reddeath68: the seems very unlikely to be related
[17:44] <mcphail> Turntable: no, you add "nomodeset" to the boot options
[17:44] <propernewb> TJ- what's the 22 vars about?
[17:44] <ikonia> as the java app is running in wine (bad idea - thats probably your problem) and your browser/youtube is a totally seperate thing
[17:44] <propernewb> TJ- or not important?
[17:44] <TJ-> propernewb: now we look back to tha error from 'apt-get -f install' where it reported "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/systemd-logind not found."
[17:44] <Twirl> MonkeyDust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICC_profile
[17:44] <TJ-> propernewb: those are shell environment variables
[17:44] <Turntable> mcphail i'll try again
[17:45] <reddeath68> ikonia, I honestly don't know I only experience this crash when I have a java app open such as minecraft or runescape(being run through wine) and firefox open with an active video playing
[17:45] <lorenzo522> hello tj
[17:45] <ikonia> reddeath68: don't use wine for java
[17:45] <TJ-> propernewb: So, we now look at the (text) of the script "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d" and find the location where it writes the error message "unknown initscript"
[17:45] <ikonia> java is cross platform, use that to your advantage
[17:45] <reddeath68> ikonia, also full screening the youtube video severly laggs my entire graphics
[17:45] <ikonia> reddeath68: thats a seperate issue, addressing your video performance should be a seperate issue
[17:46] <propernewb> TJ- do you need a paste of it or you got a copy?
[17:46] <reddeath68> ikonia, I needed to the launcher for the game is made for windows there is a linux launcher but it isn't supported by the game and isnt the most reliable
[17:46] <TJ-> propernewb: that happens on line 270 if /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d
[17:46] <TJ-> propernewb: I have a 14.04 chroot here I'm working from
[17:46] <ikonia> reddeath68: you shouldn't need a launcher for a java app - just launch it
[17:46] <reddeath68> ikonia, the game is written in java but browser based
[17:46] <ikonia> reddeath68: so ?
[17:47] <ikonia> (apologies if I'm missing hte point)
[17:47] <TJ-> propernewb: And the key here is the commentary starting at line 270. It is supposed to detect that Upstart is the init daemon, apparently fails to do that, and falls back to looking for a sysv-init script (which isn't there), and fails
[17:47] <reddeath68> ikonia, the launcher loads and applet viewer so that the game doesnt have to be run directly in my browser and use even more resources
[17:47] <ikonia> reddeath68: you don't need an applet viewer, just run it natively in your browser
[17:48] <Twirl> please man anyone knows how to create color profiles or something?
[17:48] <TJ-> propernewb: so now we analyse line 272 "if which initctl >/dev/null && initctl version | grep -q upstart ..."
[17:48] <Turntable> i'm back :(
[17:49] <reddeath68> ikonia, I use the viewer because it is much faster and the game is resource intensive to begin with running it in browser is incrediably bulky and can make certain parts of the game almost unplayable
[17:49] <erialdo> hello?
[17:49] <ikonia> reddeath68: that seems unrealistic
[17:49] <TJ-> propernewb: so, do "which initctl", that should report "/sbin/initctl". Then do "initctl --version" and the first line should have the 'upstart' string in it
[17:49] <Turntable> mcphail on the boot menù i've press f6 then selected nomodereset then tried without installing but i got tha flashing cursord anyway :(
[17:49] <reddeath68> ikonia, thats the way it is though even the company whoowns the game suggests using the client itself over playing in browser
[17:49] <TJ-> propernewb: check those two conditions and report back to me
[17:50] <mcphail> Turntable: "nomodeset" - note the spelling
[17:50] <ikonia> reddeath68: what is the name of the game you're playing ?
[17:50] <ikonia> lets have a look at what it is
[17:50] <reddeath68> ikonia, runescape
[17:50] <erialdo> why does the alert box "your firefox cannot be loaded?"
[17:50] <mcphail> !nomodeset | Turntable
[17:50] <erialdo> when i clik to mozilla
[17:50] <erialdo> has anybody any idea
[17:51] <erialdo> I am using ubuntu mate 15.10
[17:51] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12739998/
[17:51] <erialdo> does it have to do with the memory RAM cause i allocated 1 Gb
[17:52] <allizom> erialdo: check system monitor for existing firefox processes, kill them, restart firefox
[17:52] <erialdo> thank you
[17:52] <TJ-> propernewb: so there's your cause. The system is apparently using the old sysv-init not upstart?
[17:52] <Turntable> mcphail i've followed the guide
[17:52] <Turntable> that says after boot press f6 and select nomodereset, done it
[17:52] <Turntable> but i got flashing cursor anyway
[17:53] <esteeb> Twirl: Maybe this will help https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/lucid/gnome-color-manager/
[17:53] <erialdo> allizom I should mention that i just installed xampp for linux
[17:53] <mcphail> Turntable: there is no "modereset". The parameter is "nomodeset"
[17:53] <TJ-> propernewb: but, now try "/sbin/initctl --version"
[17:53] <propernewb> TJ- but i didn't change anything, unless apt or webmin did?
[17:54] <Twirl> esteeb: i installed it and when i tried to open it it says "no file specified"
[17:54] <Turntable> sorry my mistake
[17:54] <propernewb> TJ- still 8.21
[17:54] <Turntable> i've checked nomodeset
[17:54] <TJ-> propernewb: notice the output from "initctl --version" is actually the program "true (GNU coreutils) ..."
[17:54] <reddeath68> ikonia, thank you for trying to hlp but unfortunantly I have to go
[17:54] <propernewb> TJ- yeah
[17:54] <allizom> erialdo: should not be interacting, have you tried that way?
[17:54] <lorenzo522> tj
[17:54] <lorenzo522> tj
[17:55] <erialdo> allizom i dont see any mozilla or firefox processes
[17:55] <Turntable> i'll try the standard ubuntu :(
[17:55] <TJ-> propernewb: so, that is likely a symlink. What does "ls -l /sbin/initctl" show?
[17:55] <allizom> erialdo: what is your exact error message?
[17:57] <erialdo> allizom : "Your firefox profile canot be loaded. It may be missing or inacessible"
[17:57] <mcphail> Turntable: you still get the same result with "nomodeset"?
[17:57] <Turntable> yes
[17:57] <erialdo> memory is ~40% of 978
[17:57] <Turntable> blinking cursor anyway, and all my usb devices shuts down
[17:57] <mcphail> Turntable: what is the resolution of your monitor?
[17:58] <Turntable> max resolution 1920x1080
[17:58] <mcphail> Turntable: OK, give me a sec to google
[17:58] <TJ-> propernewb: At some point in the past you've replaced /sbin/initctl with a symlink to /usr/bin/true, presumably to prevent upstart running services whilst in the chroot. Is that correct?
[17:58] <lorenzo522> &help
[17:58] <Twirl> nice i installed redshift and now my temperature won't change even with ICC, its red af
[17:59] <Twirl> guess i should reboot but i don't want to
[17:59] <allizom> erialdo: show hidden folder in caja (should be ctrl+h), see if you have a folder named xxxxxxxx.default in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[17:59] <mcphail> Turntable: instead of "nomodeset", try adding "drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/1920x1080.bin" to your boot parameters
[18:00] <erialdo> allizom i think i am just gonna restart and come back after two minutes to see if it restarts
[18:00] <erialdo> thanks for the help
[18:00] <Turntable> i'll try
[18:00] <erialdo> ill be back id the problem continues
[18:00] <esteeb> Twirl: I'm not really familiar with setting up ICC in ubuntu I just sent you to where Google sent me.
[18:01] <Twirl> esteeb: yea i know i installed that
[18:02] <Twirl> anyways i installed something called redshift
[18:02] <Twirl> and now my screen is red, and i can't change it
[18:02] <Twirl> gonna reboot i guess
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> Twirl  you can: click on the icon and Toggle
[18:03] <Twirl> MonkeyDust: i like it i just dont like not being able to choose the temperature
[18:03] <Twirl> and having to edit a conf file with numerical values
[18:03] <erialdo> allizom you there?
[18:03] <Twirl> and try to guess until i find something i want for different occasions
[18:03] <erialdo> runnin
[18:04] <erialdo> its not working
[18:04] <Twirl> also, i would like to be able to choose the color myself from a color picker, dunno if this is possible
[18:04] <erialdo> again
[18:04] <allizom> erialdo: check that folder
[18:04] <erialdo> could repeat again .
[18:04] <erialdo> which folder
[18:05] <allizom> ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.default
[18:05] <allizom> substitute x with random characters
[18:06] <erialdo> ok
[18:06] <TJ-> propernewb: have you fixed it now?
[18:07] <SopaXT> Offtopic: can I use UPnP for a permanent port forward
[18:08] <linocisco> anybody using KVM ?
[18:08] <linocisco> i am using KVM with virtual machine manager and
[18:08] <linocisco> I have problem getting my pointer back.
[18:09] <erialdo> allizom cant find the ~/ folder
[18:09] <allizom> erialdo: it's just your "Home"
[18:09] <allizom> press Ctrl+C
[18:09] <jophish_> Hi
[18:09] <allizom> sorry Ctrl+H
[18:10] <jophish_> I'm getting really slow network performance with ubuntu
[18:10] <jophish_> I'm not sure where to begin debugging this though
[18:10] <Turntable> mcphail nothing, i got the flashing cursor anyway
[18:10] <allizom> erialdo: you should now see a bunch of files/folders whose name starts with a dot
[18:10] <Turntable> but
[18:11] <jophish_> It sometimes plummets to about 50KB/s
[18:11] <erialdo> there are no .mozilla folders or files
[18:11] <erialdo> Yes i see them but none is .mozilla
[18:11] <jophish_> I don't get this behavior on Windows on the same machine
[18:11] <mcphail> Turntable: OK, so probably not a graphics card issue, I'd guess
[18:12] <erialdo> sorry allizom I am noob. I see .mozilla folder
[18:12] <erialdo> i thought it was a file
[18:12] <mcphail> Turntable: There used to be a problem with the live USB booting with certain USB devices plugged in, causing hangs and flashing cursors. I thought it had been fixed. Can you disconnect anything not required and try again
[18:12] <Turntable> i've tried to boot with acpi=off and i'm stuck on this screen http://s4.postimg.org/c58p95d99/IMG_20151010_200622.jpg
[18:13] <erialdo> access denied
[18:13] <erialdo> it says
[18:13] <Turntable> erialdo are you talking to me?
[18:13] <Turntable> oh no sorry :)
[18:13] <erialdo> no Turntable I am talking to allizom
[18:13] <mcphail> Turntable: hmm. Maybe your card needs a newer kernel... Can you boot from one of the wily images?
[18:14] <erialdo> no problem. we all start as noobs
[18:14] <erialdo> lol
[18:14]  * mcphail is floundering here
[18:14] <allizom> erialdo: did you modify ownership/permissions?
[18:14] <Turntable> ehm sorry, wily images? :)
[18:15] <erialdo> yes i set it +r but still wont let me in
[18:15] <Turntable> oh wily = 15.10
[18:15] <mcphail> Turntable: :) - the development release
[18:15] <Turntable> downloading it
[18:16] <mcphail> Turntable: in saying that, nomodeset should have prevented the kernel trying to load the radeon driver. So don't know if this will help
[18:16] <Turntable> it's so strange anyway because daphile (based on gentoo) works well
[18:17] <mcphail> Turntable: what kernel is that using?
[18:18] <allizom> erialdo: please ls -l ~/.mozilla/firefox or which one is the folder you can't access
[18:18] <EriC^^> erialdo: try +x
[18:18] <Turntable> i've used it for about 2 years, started from 3.1 i think
[18:18] <Turntable> but the latest is 4.1
[18:18] <erialdo> allizom sorry for being slow, but now I am in the .mozilla
[18:18] <Turntable> anyway i'm trying ubuntu standard
[18:18] <erialdo> yes i did that Eric and i entered in the folder
[18:18] <Turntable> maybe it boots
[18:19] <allizom> ok, does firefox open now?
[18:19] <mcphail> Turntable: and when did you change your graphics card?
[18:19] <Turntable> last year
[18:19] <Turntable> november 2014
[18:19] <erialdo> no, still the same message
[18:19] <erialdo> the permissions for files "extensions" and "firefox" are "drwx------"
[18:20] <erialdo> should i add the +x to them?
[18:20] <Turntable> mcphail but i think it's not the graphic card because the pc is totally stuck, keyboard leds, mouse atc doesn't respond at all
[18:20] <EriC^^> erialdo: if you don't have lots of stuff you need you could simply mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[18:20] <mcphail> Turntable: I think the 290 is supported in the 15.04 kernel (which should be 3.19), but not absolutely sure. Of course, I don't know whether the ubuntu-studio livecd uses a lowlatency kernel which is likely to be ancient
[18:21] <erialdo> so Eric this way i remove the folder?
[18:21] <mcphail> (sorry - rt rather than lowlatency)
[18:21] <Turntable> let me try the standard ubuntu ;) brb
[18:21] <EriC^^> erialdo: yeah, it will recreate itself when you start firefox
[18:21] <erialdo> ok thanks ill try that
[18:21] <twizzey> Is there a easier/better way to upgrade to 15.04 from 14.04 besides copying the image onto a disk.
[18:22] <erialdo> still the same sh***y error message
[18:23] <EriC^^> what's the message?
[18:23] <erialdo> does it have to do with the fact that I installed xammp for linux
[18:23] <erialdo> "Your firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible"
[18:24] <linocisco> hi all
[18:24] <EriC^^> erialdo: try mv ~/.cache ~/.cache.old
[18:25] <allizom> erialdo: start firefox from the terminal with -ProfileManager option
[18:25] <linocisco> Hi all, I dont want to connect to wifi or LAN, I just want to connect my host to KVM guest
[18:25] <linocisco> what do I do?
[18:25] <linocisco> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking is just for sharing KVM guest on network and that settings freeze my host ubuntu startup or never came up
[18:26] <akik> linocisco: don't enter the gateway ip for the host
[18:26] <erialdo> allizom: could you be more detailed about that please
[18:26] <linocisco> akik, where?
[18:26] <gurl> Hey beginner here anyone wanna help me?
[18:26] <allizom> open up a terminal emulator, type: firefox -ProfileManager
[18:26] <linocisco> akik, i will share my KVM guest os later on network
[18:27] <erialdo> allizom: No it still doesn't work
[18:27] <akik> linocisco: so later you will connect your host to the network too?
[18:27] <EriC^^> erialdo: does it work from the guest account?
[18:27] <erialdo> allizom: same error
[18:28] <allizom> erialdo: close any firefox window, then try again
[18:28] <allizom> if any
[18:28] <linocisco> akik, yes
[18:28] <allizom> or the running processes
[18:28] <linocisco> akik, following that link made my ubuntu startup freeze and loading ever
[18:29] <erialdo> allizom,EriC^^: last line in terminal"Error: Access was denied while trying to open files in your profile directory."
[18:30] <akik> linocisco: so have you entered any ip settings to your system yet?
[18:30] <akik> linocisco: i could try removing my configuration and see how it boots
[18:30] <linocisco> yes. when I enter br0 settings in interface file
[18:31] <linocisco> it freeze
[18:33] <Guurllll> My problem: I will be logged on, and randomly ubunto will lock me out. I log back in with no problem then all my open programs and windows will be closed. anyone know why this happens
[18:34] <allizom> erialdo: please rename both ~/.mozilla and ~/.cache as your normal user account
[18:35] <allizom> or delete them
[18:35] <EriC^^> erialdo: type strace -o log firefox
[18:35] <ViperZ> hey trying to get my printer installed and setup and although i downloaded the drivers but when i try to go to set it up my printer is not in the database
[18:35] <EriC^^> then cat log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:36] <EriC^^> erialdo: it'll overwrite any files called log
[18:36] <propernewb> TJ- did you not get my PM?
[18:36] <akik> i booted kubuntu with no ip configuration and didn't notice any stalling
[18:37] <propernewb> TJ- i needed to go afk, anyway, i'm back
[18:37] <erialdo> allizom: cannot remove directory .mozilla or .mozilla.old
[18:37] <propernewb> TJ- lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Oct 10 14:25 /sbin/initctl -> /bin/true
[18:37] <erialdo> i typed "sudo rmdir .mozilla"
[18:38] <EriC^^> erialdo: try the strace command, so we can see what it's trying to open
[18:38] <akik> linocisco: maybe trying to add the default route through the br0 device is your problem
[18:38] <akik> oh well he left
[18:38] <erialdo> EriC^^: i tried that but same error
[18:39] <TJ-> propernewb: I'm in the midst of making pizza :)
[18:39] <EriC^^> erialdo: did cat log ... give you a link?
[18:39] <TJ-> propernewb: At some point in the past you've replaced /sbin/initctl with a symlink to /usr/bin/true, presumably to prevent upstart running services whilst in the chroot. Is that correct?
[18:39] <erialdo> EriC^^: last line in terminal "Error: Access was denied while trying to open files in your profile directory.
[18:39] <erialdo> "
[18:39] <Guurllll> My problem: I will be logged on, and randomly ubunto will lock me out. I log back in with no problem then all my open programs and windows will be closed. anyone know why this happens
[18:39] <TJ-> propernewb: did you use 'dpkg-divert ...' ?
[18:39] <EriC^^> erialdo: cat log | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:39] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[18:40] <propernewb> TJ- i'll take some, i'll get you some beer to go with it
[18:40] <erialdo> EriC^^: yes it shows an url
[18:40] <erialdo> a link
[18:40] <propernewb> TJ- that is not, i never did that unless something auto did it?
[18:41] <propernewb> TJ- the only dpkg i use is to purge installs
[18:41] <Guurllll> My problem: I will be logged on, and randomly ubunto will lock me out. I log back in with no problem then all my open programs and windows will be closed. anyone know why this happens
[18:41] <TJ-> propernewb: it is the result of a manual step. Can you show "ls -l /sbin/initctl*" in case there are some diversion files there
[18:41] <erialdo> EriC^^: what is the purpose of that link?
[18:42] <Zos1999> how many people are here ?
[18:42] <propernewb> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      9 Oct 10 14:25 /sbin/initctl -> /bin/true
[18:42] <propernewb> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 193512 Jul 18  2014 /sbin/initctl.distrib
[18:42] <Zos1999> ahh not many tho
[18:42] <YXTH> I'm here
[18:42] <Zos1999> ayt
[18:42] <EriC^^> erialdo: shows what firefox is trying to do
[18:42] <Guurllll> I need help ahhhh haha
[18:42] <TJ-> propernewb: anyhow, that's the reason that invoke-rc.d is failing since it can't find the 'upstart' version of initctl, it tries to use sysv-init, and there is no sysv-init script for systemd-logind
[18:42] <erialdo> EriC^^: and now?
[18:42] <propernewb> TJ- i can say i've never editted it, unless there's a shell (¬_¬) ahahaha
[18:43] <TJ-> propernewb: simple solution though: we create another policy file to tell invoke-rc.d not to do this
[18:43] <propernewb> TJ- geif please
[18:43] <EriC^^> erialdo: paste the link here
[18:43] <TJ-> propernewb: "echo -e "#!/bin/sh\nexit 101\n" > /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d"
[18:44] <erialdo> termbin.com/x991
[18:44] <EULAreader> Hello folks :)
[18:44] <Guurllll> My problem: I will be logged on, and randomly ubunto will lock me out. I log back in with no problem then all my open programs and windows will be closed. anyone know why this happens
[18:44] <TJ-> propernewb: now "chmod a+x /usr/bin/policy-rc.d"
[18:44] <propernewb> TJ- bash: !/bin/sh\nexit: event not found
[18:44] <EULAreader> How can I use a serial device in ubuntu?
[18:44] <TJ-> propernewb: hmph!
[18:44] <EULAreader> What software does it use?
[18:45] <TJ-> propernewb: "echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nexit 101\n > /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d" (try using single quotes)
[18:45] <erialdo> EriC^^: termbin.com/x991
[18:46] <Turntable> :(
[18:46] <propernewb> TJ- chmod: cannot access '/usr/bin/policy-rc.d': No such file or directory
[18:46] <Guurllll> can someone help me please?
[18:47] <EriC^^> erialdo: does it work from the guest account?
[18:47] <Turntable> Guurllll ask your question then someone will help you
[18:47] <erialdo> let me check
[18:47] <EriC^^> erialdo: it seems to look for the .mozilla dir at the start and finds it no problem, but then it complains about a lot of missing libs and gtk stuff
[18:47] <EriC^^> ok, give it a try
[18:47] <naftilos76> Hi i cannot install guest additions (virtualbox) for one linux guest in my linux box. I checked and the VBoxGuestAdditions.iso file is in the path /usr/share/virtualbox . I keep getting the error: Unable to insert the virtual optical disk /usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxGuestAdditions.iso
[18:48] <TJ-> propernewb: the file needs creating first, with the 'echo' command, or a text editor if you want to
[18:48] <Guurllll> I will be logged on, and randomly ubunto will lock me out. I log back in with no problem then all my open programs and windows will be closed. anyone know why this happens
[18:48] <TJ-> propernewb: oh, I typoed the chmod path. Stick an 's' in there!!
[18:48] <propernewb> TJ- echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nexit 101\n' > /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d was successful though
[18:49] <TJ-> propernewb: now "chmod a+x /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d"
[18:49] <propernewb> TJ- ah ok
[18:49] <TJ-> propernewb: notice its sbin not bin :D
[18:49] <propernewb> TJ- just clocked it
[18:49] <TJ-> propernewb: pizza is getting in the way :D
[18:49] <propernewb> TJ- put it down ;)
[18:50] <propernewb> TJ- is that all now it'll succeed?
[18:50] <esteeb> pizza is never in the way, it IS the way!
[18:50] <TJ-> propernewb: now you can rerun "apt-get -f install" and it should work
[18:50] <propernewb> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/systemd-logind not found.
[18:50] <propernewb> invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of start.
[18:51] <propernewb> TJ- did i do something stupid or did we miss something?
[18:51] <TJ-> propernewb: No, the init system is just full of stupid bugs
[18:51] <TJ-> propernewb: apparently the policy-rc.d only prevents 'starting' a script, not looking for it
[18:52] <TJ-> propernewb: lets manually hard-code around it now we know the cause
[18:52] <cisconinja> good morning, when i telnet to a node (a cisco device)in my LAN 'telnet 192.168.1.21 2001' but when i logout and try to telnet again i get Trying 192.168.1.21...
[18:52] <cisconinja> Connected to 192.168.1.21.
[18:52] <cisconinja> Escape character is '^]'.
[18:53] <cisconinja> opps sorry for the multi line
[18:53] <propernewb> TJ- code into systemd.logind.conf or?
[18:54] <erialdo> EriC^^: it works in guest mode
[18:54] <cisconinja> any idea please
[18:54] <TJ-> propernewb: "dpkg-divert --local --rename --add /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d"
[18:55] <TJ-> propernewb: then "ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d"
[18:55] <TJ-> propernewb: now "apt-get -f install"
[18:55] <TJ-> propernewb: if that works, we then undo those changes
[18:55] <EriC^^> erialdo: ok
[18:55] <Turntable> nel dubbio porco dio
[18:56] <erialdo> EriC^^: Any ideas? or just reinstalling mozilla
[18:57] <TheRinger> how do i remove libreoffice without removing ubuntu-mate-desktop
[18:57] <propernewb> TJ- 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:57] <propernewb> root@rescue:/#
[18:58] <propernewb> TJ- it worked i'm guessing seeing as no output?
[18:58] <TJ-> propernewb: fixed it finally! now we undo those steps!
[18:58] <TJ-> propernewb: "rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d"  then "dpkg-divert --local --rename --remove /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d"
[18:59] <esteeb> cisconinja: I'm not really sure what you are asking. Are you not able to connect? Also, is this an Ubuntu question?
[18:59] <erialdo> EriC^^: ?
[18:59] <TJ-> propernewb: now you might want to - finally - regenerate the correct initial ramdisk image
[18:59] <EriC^^> erialdo: did you try the mv ~/.cache ~/.cache.old ?
[19:00] <propernewb> TJ- and after that regeneration i can boot from HDD and it'll work?
[19:00] <soman> [DEB Package] What structure 'DEBIAN/dirs' should have? I wrote there '/var/myapp/somedir' but this folder isn't created when the package is installed. How to correctly use it?
[19:00] <EriC^^> erialdo: do you have a profiles.ini in ~/.mozilla/firefox ?
[19:01] <cisconinja> esteeb: yes i am able to connect once, if i logout and try to log back in it wont allow it
[19:01] <TJ-> propernewb: no, there's one more step. We need to find out, after you exit the chroot, if that /bin/true diversion has been removed automatically. If not, we have to remove it
[19:01] <ioria> cisconinja, what command do you use to exit,   'logout' ?
[19:02] <erialdo> EriC^^: No, i deleted them. Now I am uninstalling firefox and installing again
[19:02] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741321/
[19:02] <erialdo> EriC^^: thanks for your help. Profiles.ini i deleted just moments ago
[19:02] <propernewb> TJ- good or bad?
[19:02] <EriC^^> erialdo: ok
[19:02] <TJ-> propernewb: very bad!
[19:02] <TJ-> propernewb: "WARNING: missing /lib/modules/3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64"
[19:03] <erialdo> EriC^^: What do you think could be the problem?
[19:03] <propernewb> TJ- lol missed that
[19:03] <TJ-> propernewb: for each kernel image/version there needs to be a /lib/modules/<version>/ containing that kernels loadable modules and dependency database
[19:04] <TJ-> propernewb: what does "ls -latr /lib/modules/" report?
[19:04] <propernewb> TJ-
[19:04] <propernewb> ls: cannot access /lib/modules/: No such file or directory :(
[19:05] <cisconinja> ioria: yes, which takes me back to the router prompt "press return to login" at that point i want to get back to my shell, i use the escape char.
[19:05] <EriC^^> erialdo: i'm kinda baffled
[19:05] <TJ-> propernewb: Are you sure this a bare hardware dedicated server? it's looking more like a virtual machine
[19:05] <ioria> cisconinja, you can try ctrl + ]  and then 'close'
[19:06] <propernewb> it's definately a bare dedi
[19:06] <erialdo> EriC^^: me too. But i think the problem could be with the variables of profiles.ini
[19:06] <TJ-> propernewb: because with Xen, and with kvm, the kernel images and modules can be/are stored outside the guest
[19:06] <EriC^^> erialdo: it's supposed to create a new one if it can't find it though
[19:07] <TJ-> propernewb: if there is no "/lib/modules/" then this system has no modules installed
[19:07] <propernewb> TJ- very old Kimsufi R-8G
[19:07] <propernewb> TJ- maybe 3-4 years porbably more
[19:07] <EriC^^> erialdo: you could create a new user and mv your stuff if worse comes to worse
[19:08] <erialdo> EriC^^: reinstalled firefox; same f****ing problem
[19:08] <cisconinja> ioria: yes that is what i am doing, now when i am back to my shell and if i want to telnet back to the same router, i am not able to!
[19:08] <TJ-> propernewb: the fact it has a custom built kernel too, makes me suspicious about this.
[19:08] <Guest5710> Sorry, this is my first time using this.
[19:08] <EriC^^> erialdo: try mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[19:09] <erialdo> EriC^^: whose config?
[19:09] <TJ-> propernewb: can you do "dmesg | pastebinit"
[19:09] <ioria> cisconinja, another port ?  23 ?
[19:09] <Guest5710> I'm looking for help installing Ubuntu 15.04 in Virtual Box running on Windows 8.1.
[19:09] <propernewb> TJ- whistle blower, ovh miselling :P
[19:09] <propernewb> TJ- 2 secs need to get charger
[19:09] <auronandace> Guest5710: at what point are you stuck?
[19:10] <cisconinja> ioria: oh yea, say i want to connect to another device , i am able to no problem
[19:10] <Guest5710> I've install Ubuntu...
[19:10] <EriC^^> erialdo: try sudo find ~ -perm 0000
[19:10] <Guest5710> And restarted, and I'm at a screen that says Ubuntu 15.04...."SMBus base address uninitialized..."
[19:11] <Guest5710> But nothing happens after that screen appears.
[19:11] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741410/
[19:12] <auronandace> !screenshot | Guest5710
[19:13] <Guest5710> I uploaded the screen capture.
[19:13] <cadillacsCPS1> someone can helpme to install the jack-audio-connection-kit?
[19:13] <ioria> cisconinja, have you tried  with nmap -p to scan the ports ?
[19:13] <auronandace> Guest5710: you'll need to share the url to the pic with us
[19:14] <Guest5710> http://imgur.com/wOXlBOz
[19:14] <cisconinja> ioria: no. how do i know if my telnet session to port 2001 is killed?
[19:14] <cisconinja> duh ps
[19:15] <ioria> cisconinja, run namp your ip
[19:15] <TJ-> propernewb: can you show me one from the chroot if you're still in it? "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg.0"
[19:15] <marestrpc> hello guys
[19:16] <marestrpc> i have big problem
[19:16] <GladiaTeur> Hello today i got this errors when trying to update my ubuntu vps https://dpaste.de/NswM
[19:16] <marestrpc> cant turn on my computer cuz have problems with graphic driver
[19:16] <GladiaTeur> Ubuntu 14.10 (GNU/Linux 2.6.32-042stab111.11 x86_64
[19:16] <propernewb> TJ- i am in the chroot right now?
[19:16] <jarnos> I wish there was a document that would tell how to get vsync work for each ubuntu flavor.
[19:17] <TJ-> propernewb: I assume you were, if so, do that last command
[19:17] <baizon> GladiaTeur: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/07/03/ubuntu-14-10-utopic-unicorn-reaches-end-of-life-on-july-23-2015/
[19:17] <TJ-> propernewb: according to the current dmesg the mobo is a http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/dsktpboards/db-dh67bl
[19:17] <ioria> cisconinja, if you close/reopen the terminal , the port is open again ?
[19:17] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741501/
[19:17] <baizon> GladiaTeur: you need to upgrade to 15.04
[19:18] <GladiaTeur> ok thanks baizon
[19:18] <marestrpc> some solutions?
[19:18] <AndyS2> jarnos: I have had issues with tearing before, maybe still have. but somehow MPV (video player) seems to be able to do it right even if other programs fail.
[19:18] <GladiaTeur> can you tell me the steps to upgrade it baizon
[19:18] <AndyS2> jarnos: that's not a solution, but a good workaround for me
[19:18] <baizon> GladiaTeur: http://askubuntu.com/questions/588019/how-to-upgrade-from-14-10-to-15-04
[19:19] <GladiaTeur> thanks
[19:19] <auronandace> Guest5710: have you altered any settings when setting up the vm?
[19:19] <TJ-> propernewb: OK, its definiately bare-metal. So, at some point your commands have managed to delete every kernel image and supporting files
[19:19] <propernewb> TJ- i'm going to blame webmin cause it did freeze on me
[19:20] <TJ-> propernewb: "pastebinit <( apt list 'linux*' )"
[19:20] <propernewb> TJ- can i fix without reinstall?
[19:20] <jarnos> AndyS2, I want to get Chromium play tear-free video.
[19:20] <TJ-> propernewb: I doubt this is a webmin issue; I've used webmin/virtualmin since 2005 with no problems
[19:20] <Guest5710> I turned off System > Acceleration > Enable Nested Paging, as suggested by some other who has this problem.
[19:20] <TJ-> propernewb: this is probably due to all those apt-get clean autoremove etc you issued
[19:20] <propernewb> TJ- well it froze and i choose to reboot (facepalm)
[19:20] <propernewb> TJ-
[19:20] <propernewb> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts.
[19:20] <propernewb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741516/
[19:21] <TJ-> propernewb: i suspect the problem is that IVH seem to be providing a custom kernel, which requires custom modules packages, and so on.
[19:21] <auronandace> Guest5710: and the error still comes up?
[19:22] <Guest5710> Yes
[19:22] <TJ-> propernewb: According to that the system has no kernels installed at all
[19:23] <TJ-> propernewb: you'd expect to see a few entries ending similar to this: "linux-image-extra-3.13.0-62-generic/trusty-updates,trusty-security,now 3.13.0-62.102 amd64 [installed,automatic]"
[19:23] <Guest5710> Otherwise I followed the instructions on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz7TcHW2UTc
[19:24] <propernewb> TJ- is there a way to save this?
[19:24] <TJ-> propernewb: The dmesg.0 showed the last 'real' boot used "BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/bzImage-3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64" ... which is obviously NOT an Ubuntu kernel. So the question is, where did that come from, where are its supporting files, which packages etc
[19:25] <propernewb> TJ- i have bzimage on /boot/ though
[19:25] <propernewb> TJ- do you want the rescue config, maybe i can copy from there?
[19:25] <TJ-> propernewb: We can install the Ubuntu default kernel packages, but the host's network infrastructure may require a custom kernel.
[19:26] <TJ-> propernewb: that's the problem - the file in /boot/ is what started the system, but there is no sign of its supporting files - initrd.img, /lib/modules/3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64/ or installed packages
[19:27] <auronandace> Guest5710: you could try booting to a root shell to install guest additions
[19:27] <propernewb> TJ- maybe not to leak it out it's all off from the network?
[19:27] <TJ-> propernewb: I think you need to open a support incident with your Host; ask them if they provide Debian packages for that kernel version and if so where you're supposed to get them from
[19:27] <cdk_> i installed ubuntu on my other computer however there is no driver for the graphics driver i have the driver but not sure how to install it it is in .deb format and when i try to open it with the ubuntu store it tells me error ANY HELP IS APPRICIATED
[19:28] <Guest5710> One second, I am trying to reboot.
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> cdk_  open it it with gdebi
[19:28] <TJ-> propernewb: one last thing we can check if they cause their own repo to be added to apt's repository list with "pastebinit <( cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* )"
[19:28] <cdk_> kk will try in just a few minutes as it is starting
[19:28] <propernewb> TJ- i could just rsync my data but can i make a backup of my configs with ease, spent quite a lot setting up apache etc.?
[19:29] <TJ-> propernewb: I don't think that will be needed, if we can find out where the OVH kernel packages are supposed to come from
[19:29] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741585/
[19:30] <TJ-> propernewb: aha! see how the system is set to use IVH repostitory mirrors? That would allow them to insert additoinal packages of their own into those repos.
[19:31] <TJ-> propernewb: let's search the package lists for any sign of that kernel version: "pastenbinit <( apt-cache search -n '3\.14\.32')"
[19:32] <propernewb> TJ- You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[19:32] <ioria> cdk_  sudo lshw -c video ?
[19:32] <TJ-> propernewb: That means no matches were found
[19:33] <TJ-> propernewb: How about "pastenbinit <( apt-cache search -n 'ovh')"
[19:33] <cdk_> what is that going to do?
[19:33] <ioria> cdk_  it 'll show you your graphics and the driver in use
[19:34] <propernewb> TJ- you keep doing pasteNbinit, i'll let it slide ;)
[19:34] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741775/
[19:34] <indian-oh-oh-oh> Where do I add something that is deb-src?
[19:34] <TJ-> propernewb: I'm training you to catch my typos
[19:34] <cdk_> k will try it and see what happens
[19:34] <propernewb> TJ- yes sensai
[19:35] <TJ-> propernewb: So, no obvious OVH packages. As I said earlier, open a support incident with your Host, ask them where/how you're supposed to get that 3.14.32 kernel packages
[19:35] <cdk_> gdebi is not showing
[19:36] <propernewb> TJ- will do, thanks for the help, will buy you a beer when i come back and we finish this off :P ;)
[19:36] <TJ-> propernewb: one last thing...
[19:36] <propernewb> TJ- yeh?
[19:36] <ioria> cdk_  let gdebi alone, for now
[19:36] <TJ-> propernewb: show me "pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log"
[19:37] <ioria> cdk_  paste the output
[19:37] <indian-oh-oh-oh> Do I add deb-src to sources.list?
[19:37] <Guest5710> auronandance:  Restarting both Ubuntu and VirtualBox seems to be resulting in progress.
[19:38] <Guest5710> At least I am past the initial error and something else is happening, very slowly.
[19:38] <Guest5710> Oh, I am now back to the "Install Ubuntu" screen.
[19:39] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741843/
[19:40] <TJ-> propernewb: doesn't go back far enough, lets do "pastebinit <( zcat /var/log/apt/history.log.1.gz )"
[19:40] <propernewb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741864/
[19:41] <cdk_> here is the output::   *-display         description: VGA compatible controller       product: C51 [GeForce Go 6150]       vendor: NVIDIA Corporation       physical id: 5       bus info: pci@0000:00:05.0      version: a2       width: 64 bits       clock: 66MHz       capabilities: pm msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom       configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0      resources: irq:18 memory:b2000000-b2ffffff memory:c0000000
[19:41] <cdk_> -cfffffff memory:b1000000-b1ffffff memory:b0020000-b003ffff
[19:41] <ioria> cdk_  not here...
[19:41] <ioria> cdk_  paste.ubuntu.com   and paste here the url
[19:42] <cdk_> the screen works for a little while but then it starts flashing yellow and blocky then just frezes
[19:42] <auronandace> Guest5710: have you removed the iso from when you installed?
[19:42] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741864/
[19:43] <TJ-> propernewb: that's weird - there is no apt log history between August 22 and today
[19:43] <ioria> cdk_   need the entire output ... or you install pastebinit, or you paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:44] <propernewb> TJ- it's always on and i've used apt-get before so no idea
[19:44] <akik> propernewb/TJ-: apt-get upgrade has probably failed at 2015-10-10  12:15:19
[19:44] <propernewb> TJ- maybe it purges when you do a reboot
[19:44] <Guest5710> auronandance:  Should I delete the ISO file?
[19:44] <cdk_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741915/
[19:44] <TJ-> propernewb: let's try "pastebinit <( zcat /var/log/apt/term.log{.1.gz,} )"
[19:45] <cdk_> i just had to restart the computer because the screen crashed
[19:45] <propernewb> TJ- did you see what akik said?
[19:45] <TJ-> propernewb: logs are rotated out every so often. The most recent rotated is the .1.gz
[19:45] <propernewb> gzip: /var/log/apt/term.log: not in gzip format
[19:45] <propernewb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741937/
[19:45] <auronandace> Guest5710: no, just unmount it from the vm
[19:46] <TJ-> akik: Yes, we've fixed those, but I'm trying to find out how/why all kernel packages were purged, and the history has a hole in it from Aug 22 until today
[19:46] <ioria> cdk_   ok, you are nvidia, and using nouveau driver .... if you open Additional Drivers ... what you got ?
[19:47] <cdk_> how do i get to that?
[19:47] <TJ-> propernewb: akik: this is a bare metal dedicated server with the Host's custom OVH kernel version on it, with no supporting /lib/modules/XXXX/, no initrd.img, and no sign of a package name that matches either the custom kernel version or the more generic 'ovh' string
[19:47] <ioria> cdk_   do you use Unity ? or what ?
[19:47] <Guest5710> auronandance:  Ok, I have released the ISO file from VirtualBox.
[19:47] <cdk_> ubuntu 14.04
[19:48] <auronandace> Guest5710: now what happens when you boot?
[19:48] <Guest5710> auronandance:  Rebooting now.
[19:48] <TJ-> propernewb: that log also ends August 22. At that time did you by-chance create a separate file-system for /var/ ?
[19:48] <ioria> cdk_   ok, press the SupeKey (windows key) and type Additional
[19:48] <cdk_> kk
[19:48] <propernewb> nope
[19:48] <ubuntu853> hello there. i was wondering if someone could help me find out if my hardware is fully supported by ubuntu ? :)
[19:48] <TJ-> propernewb: "pastebinit /etc/fstab"
[19:49] <propernewb> TJ- i don't even remember what i did on the 22nd but most managing is via web apps
[19:49] <auronandace> ubuntu853: try out a livecd/usb and see
[19:49] <esteeb> ubuntu853: try using ubuntu on a live disk. Easiest route I think
[19:49] <propernewb> TJ- only shh-d in today after the webmin hang
[19:49] <zbox_> hello all, I've just been trying to install apache on my Ubuntu 14.10 (utopic) machine but apt-get keeps croaking with 404. I looked myself and I don't see utopic listed on the webserver: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/. what can I do?
[19:49] <ubuntu853> cheers. will do :)
[19:49] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742002/
[19:49] <cdk_> when i presswed it the screen crashed
[19:50] <TJ-> propernewb: any package changes/upgrades would show up in those logs. Nothing since Aug 22 says something is wrong
[19:50] <mcphail> zbox_: 14.10 is dead
[19:50] <Bashing-om> !14.10 | zbox_
[19:50] <ioria> cdk_   ok, you got some problem
[19:50] <TJ-> propernewb: "pastebinit <( ls -latr /var/log/ )"
[19:50] <propernewb> let me check my web logs, i may of reinstalled the server then
[19:50] <zbox_> it was eol'd already? ah, okay. thanks
[19:50] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742015/
[19:51] <mcphail> zbox_: the non-LTS releases get eol'd quickly these days
[19:51] <Guest5710> auronandance:  Rebooting is extremely slow...
[19:51] <cdk_> yeah tell me about it its hard to do anything when i cant see anything on the screen
[19:51] <auronandace> zbox_: non-lts releases are only 9 months support
[19:51] <propernewb> TJ- Oct 10, 2015 11:53:04 AM Remote reboot
[19:51] <propernewb> Aug 10, 2015 4:24:19 PM OS Reinstall
[19:51] <Bashing-om> zbox_: The current LTS release is 14.04, support 'til April of 2019 .
[19:52] <ioria> cdk_   can you run this in terminal : /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[19:52] <auronandace> Guest5710: do you have hardware accelleration enabled? sometimes you need to do that in the bios first
[19:53] <cdk_> cd through the directories?
[19:53] <zbox_> any way I can upgrade to 15.04 without access to repo's? or does it have to be boot CD/clean install?
[19:53] <Guest5710> auronandance:  Hardware acceleration in Windows?  It should be enabled.
[19:53] <ioria> cdk_   no just run :  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[19:53] <cdk_> kk
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> zbox_  backup and clean install is preferable
[19:54] <zbox_> okay, thanks for the info
[19:54] <ioria> cdk_   you should get all 'yes'
[19:55] <mcphail> zbox_: remember 15.10 will be out in a few days
[19:55] <cdk_> it says command not found
[19:55] <TJ-> propernewb: something unusual happened on August 22nd, that I would suspect is at the root of this
[19:55] <zbox_> yeah, I'll probably just wait for 15.10
[19:55] <ioria> cdk_   try again, please and paste cat /etc/issue
[19:55] <propernewb> TJ- but how did it work fine till today?
[19:55] <akik> TJ-: i have a lxc container which looks just like that problem host, no kernel, no content in /boot or /lib/modules. maybe that problem host is a container?
[19:57] <cdk_> it syas no such file or directory when i put it in as is and when i sudo then it it tells command not found
[19:57] <ioria> cdk_   no sudo, just the command
[19:58] <cdk_> it says no such file or directory
[19:58] <ioria> cdk_   cat /etc/issue ?
[19:58] <GladiaTeur> baizon upgraded but i got this errors now https://dpaste.de/51rV
[19:58] <TJ-> propernewb: was it rebooted since?
[19:59] <TJ-> propernewb: I've found the custom OVH binaries, but don't see your reported kernel version in the bzImage/ directory: ftp://ftp.ovh.net/made-in-ovh/
[19:59] <cdk_> r4un that in terminal?
[19:59] <propernewb> TJ- a few times
[19:59] <ioria> cdk_   yes
[19:59] <cdk_> out put is Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[20:00] <TJ-> akik: propernewb Yes, the first thing I asked was if this a virtual machine on Xen/KVM, but it is a bare-metal server, dmesg confirms its an Intel DH67BL motherboard
[20:00] <ioria> cdk_   when did you install it ?
[20:00] <cdk_> two days ago
[20:00] <TJ-> propernewb: So after the last time it was booted something happened to remove the kernel's modules and initrd
[20:00] <ioria> cdk_   from where did you download the iso ?
[20:01] <cdk_> ubuntus website
[20:01] <GladiaTeur> How to resolve this errors https://dpaste.de/51rV
[20:01] <ioria> cdk_   should be Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[20:01] <Guest5710> Ugh.  Back to the "Install Ubuntu" screen even with the ISO image released.
[20:01] <TJ-> propernewb: akik dmesgs (check kernel command lines): current rescue boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741410/   previous 'real' boot http://paste.ubuntu.com/12741501/
[20:01] <charlie> Hey
[20:01] <charlie> Anyone here
[20:01] <ubuntu853> esteeb: booted up in live mode right now, should i just scan for drivers and see ?
[20:02] <cdk_> download again and try to reinstall?
[20:02] <charlie> Hey
[20:02] <esteeb> ubuntu853: Just check to see if everything is working. Mouse, keyboard, wifi, etc.
[20:03] <akik> TJ-: lxc is weird in that way if you run dmesg in the container it shows the host messages
[20:03] <ioria> cdk_   from here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop     ? the 64-bit ?
[20:03] <propernewb> TJ- still want me to make a support ticket?
[20:03] <TJ-> akik: but this is bare metal, there is no container
[20:04] <esteeb> charlie: hey, did you need something?
[20:04] <TJ-> propernewb: hold off for a minute or two, I'm scanning their FTP site
[20:04] <charlie> Uh yeah, I need a little help
[20:04] <charlie> ...
[20:04] <imthenachoman> hey guys. i am having some trouble. every now and then (so intermittently) my system won't shut down or start up. i've turned splash and all that off in gui. is there a way i can diagnose this?
[20:04] <TJ-> akik: propernewb it's a bare metal with 2 physical drives, configured with 3 identical partitions each, sd[ab]2 and sd[ab]4 are MD devices, sd[ab]3 are swap
[20:04] <cdk_> restarting the computer screen crashed agian
[20:04] <esteeb> charlie: normally we just jump in with the question and wait. What is your question?
[20:05] <ioria> cdk_   from here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop     ? the 64-bit ?
[20:05] <TJ-> propernewb: seems your boot files came from ftp://ftp.ovh.net/made-in-ovh/bzImage/3.14.32/
[20:05] <charlie> So I'm on a chrome book but I was able to make it where I can switch between chrome OS and Lunix , Can you help me im trying to donload steam
[20:05] <cdk_> its downloading
[20:05] <akik> propernewb/TJ-: have you tried mounting those nfs directories that you can see in the kernel cmdline?
[20:05] <ioria> cdk_  it was a question ....
[20:06] <cdk_> oh yes thats where i got it from
[20:06] <TJ-> akik: they are currently mounted; that is the rescue environment.
[20:06] <cdk_> and yes 64 bit
[20:06] <esteeb> charlie: what issues are you having with your steam download?
[20:06] <propernewb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742330/
[20:06] <TJ-> akik: the 'real' env is /dev/md2 which propernewb is currently chroot-ed into
[20:06] <charlie> let me try to start it so i can see what it says
[20:06] <ioria> cdk_  don't know then, the output of cat /etc/issue should be 14.04.3
[20:06] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[20:07] <cdk_> im going to try a fresh install
[20:07] <TJ-> propernewb: you used fdisk; you need to use gdisk because the disk have GPT not MBR
[20:07] <Knight80> I've just installed miraclecast but I can't send the screen from Ubuntu to my smart tv
[20:07] <propernewb> TJ- any flags for gdisk?
[20:08] <ioria> cdk_  sorry, have to go... good luck
[20:08] <TJ-> propernewb: my issue now is this: although we've found the kernel image on the OVH ftp site, there is no sign of where the kernel *module* packages come from
[20:08] <charlie> It says you are missing the following 32-bit libraries, libc.so.6
[20:08] <TJ-> propernewb: "gdisk -l /dev/sd?" should be enough
[20:08] <cdk_> kk thanks for the help
[20:09] <charlie> It says you are missing the following 32-bit libraries, libc.so.6..can u help with that?
[20:10] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742410/
[20:11] <TJ-> propernewb: I can find no reasoning for your dedicated server using a custom kernel without supporting modules, even if that kernel has all the required modules for the mobo installed, since it breaks the way the OS package management works. This is likely why your earlier apt-get purge etc wiped it out.
[20:11] <TJ-> propernewb: however, lets try going ahead with how things are. show me "ls -latr /boot/" so I can be usre we correctl regenerated the initrd.
[20:11] <esteeb> charlie: what method did you use to install steam? Did you use the terminal or did you go to a website?
[20:11] <charlie> website
[20:12] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742438/
[20:13] <esteeb> charlie: to make sure you get everything you need i would suggest downloading through the terminal. Check the instructions on this page out http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/install-steam-ubuntu-14-04/
[20:13] <TJ-> propernewb: the gdisk output should be for the drives, not partitions. Do "pastebinit <( for D in a b; do gdisk -l /dev/sd$D; done )"
[20:13] <charlie> okay ill be back if i have any problems
[20:14] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742462/
[20:14] <TJ-> propernewb: Good! "4053243 Oct 10 20:00 initrd.img-3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64" ... now lets check the grub config: "pastebinit <( ls -latr /boot/grub/; cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg )"
[20:14] <bipul> Hello I am running ubuntu 14.04.3. And i am unable to open my gnome-terminal. When i am trying to open with xterm it says "(gnome-terminal-server:3575): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_settings_get: the format string may not contain '&' (key 'title' from schema 'org.gnome.desktop.interface'). This call will probably stop working with a future version of glib.
[20:14] <bipul> I think it's bug
[20:15] <propernewb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742470/
[20:15] <bipul> I am running Gnome-terminal 3.6.2
[20:15] <propernewb> TJ- ^
[20:17] <Jdfskitz> hello
[20:17] <TJ-> propernewb: OK, now we're *ALMOST* ready to do a reboot. Exit the chroot (do NOT unmount anything) and then we'll check that diversion of /sbin/init to /usr/bin/true has been removed. If not, the reboot would have no init system!
[20:18] <TJ-> propernewb: from outside the chroot, do "ls -l /mnt/sbin/initctl" (if the chroot is on /mnt/)
[20:18] <Jdfskitz> is there anyone available who might be able to help me with a playonlinux/bash question
[20:18] <propernewb> TJ- lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Oct 10 15:25 /mnt/md2/sbin/initctl -> /bin/true
[20:18] <Pricey> sane-find-scanner finds my scanner (canon lide 200) but scanimage --test gives: "scanimage: open of device genesys:libusb:001:008 failed: Error during device I/O" after the scanner whirs. libsane 1.0.24-4ubuntu1 on ubuntu 15.04. Any ideas?
[20:18] <TJ-> propernewb: as I thought! OK, re-enter the chroot
[20:19] <propernewb> TJ- done
[20:19] <TJ-> propernewb: then do "rm /sbin/initctl" then "dpkg-divert --local --rename --remove /sbin/initctl"
[20:19] <TJ-> propernewb: then do "ls -l /sbin/initctl" and check it isn't a symlink
[20:20] <propernewb> TJ- lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Oct 10 14:25 /sbin/initctl -> /bin/true
[20:20] <TJ-> propernewb: huh!?!
[20:20] <propernewb> TJ- it's light blue so it is a link?
[20:20] <TJ-> propernewb: the "->" indicates its a symbolic link
[20:21] <TJ-> propernewb: OK, that means the diversion may have been created from outside, unless i mistyped again! Let me test it here
[20:23] <Guest5710> * gives up for now.  Thanks anyway. *
[20:23] <Jdfskitz> could I get some assistance with playonlinux & possibly bash?
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> !ask
[20:24] <TJ-> propernewb: for your information: this is me creating and then removing the divert, showing the state of the directory after each step, so you know what we are dealing with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742587/
[20:25] <TJ-> propernewb: shoe me "pastebinit <( ls -latr /sbin/initctl* )"
[20:25] <Perdouille> hello everyone !
[20:25] <propernewb> TJ- you want me to follow or just info?
[20:25] <Jdfskitz> I'm having a problem with sound being extremely fast and choppy in this game specifically. I have found that the only solution is to open up the playonlinux configuration terminal and launch the game with PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=30 wine lol.launcher.exe
[20:25] <Perdouille> I got a big problem :/
[20:25] <Jdfskitz> I'm trying to find out how to automate it.
[20:25] <TJ-> propernewb: that's just for your info so you know what I expect you to see
[20:25] <propernewb> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742616/
[20:26] <ice9> how to change the passphrase of the gpg pinentry?
[20:26] <Perdouille> I was under Xubuntu. I rebooted under Windows 10 to play some games, then rebooted again under Linux. It said that it was checking the filesystem and that I could do ctrl + c to skip it. It was slow so I tried to skip it, it didn't work. Now, I can't reboot
[20:26] <TJ-> propernewb: lets try deleting that symlink again: "rm -f /sbin/initctl" then "ls -l /sbin/initctl" it should be gone
[20:27] <Perdouille> So I booted under a liveCD and couldn't mount the partition at all (gparted said that it was corrupted.) so I did an fsck.ext4 -y, now I can access the files and everything but it still can't boot (black screen after Grub)
[20:27] <Perdouille> Any idea ?
[20:27] <propernewb> TJ- root@rescue:/# rm -f /sbin/initctl
[20:27] <propernewb> root@rescue:/# ls -l /sbin/initctl
[20:27] <propernewb> ls: cannot access /sbin/initctl: No such file or directory
[20:27] <propernewb> Tj- all done?
[20:27] <TJ-> propernewb: YAY... now "dpkg-divert --local --rename --remove /sbin/initctl" then "ls -l /sbin/initctl" - it should be a normal file
[20:28] <propernewb> TJ- :D -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 193512 Jul 18  2014 /sbin/initctl
[20:29] <TJ-> propernewb: YES!!!! Ok... exit chroot, "sync" to ensure the caches are flushed, and do a reboot
[20:29] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Perdouille Nvidia or ATI graphics ? Try :
[20:29] <propernewb> TJ- reboot?
[20:29] <Perdouille> It was working before Bashing-om so I don't know why I would need it now
[20:29] <TJ-> propernewb: yes, into the 'real' system not the rescue
[20:29] <Perdouille> (It's Nvidia)
[20:30] <propernewb> TJ- just got to change boot system
[20:30] <TJ-> propernewb: in theory we've fixed it - well, the most serious errors
[20:30] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: Proprietary graphics driver broke in a update ?
[20:30] <propernewb> TJ- got to start ping too
[20:30] <Perdouille> I don't remember updating anything before restarting
[20:30] <Perdouille> Is there maybe a way to check if some file is missing after the fsck ?
[20:31] <Perdouille> (There was a LOT of things printed by the fsck, I had to do "yes" to all with -y)
[20:31] <Perdouille> (sorry for my maybe bad english)
[20:32] <propernewb> TJ- the ping is alive
[20:32] <propernewb> TJ- the love is real ;)
[20:33] <happynewb> TJ- can you just summarize what happened?
[20:35] <TJ-> happynewb: at some point you managed to delete the kernel's initial ram-disk
[20:35] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: Well .. there is  fsck's "lost+found" directory in '/' .. That might have something relavent . For now thogh, you want to boot up the GUI, 'nomodeset' may do that ,, and then perhaps "additional Drivers" to reload a graphic's driver ??
[20:35] <cdk_> im trying to make a bootable flash drive with startup disk creater but it is not letting me select the .iso that i want PLEASE HELP
[20:35] <TJ-> happynewb: because it's some weird manually installed kernel with no packages, the package manager couldn't fix it
[20:35] <happynewb> TJ- what cmds can do that though even with an error or has to be specific?
[20:36] <Perdouille> Ok so I reboot to try the nomodeset (I'm on the livecd right now)
[20:36] <Perdouille> I come back to tell you if it worked, thanks ^
[20:36] <happynewb> TJ- whenever you want your beer it's yours ;)
[20:36] <cdk_> any help?
[20:38] <TJ-> happynewb: I had hoped to discover how the failure happened from those apt logs, but that hole in them (which is still VERY suspicious) stopped that happening
[20:38] <OerHeks> cdk_, why not? give us more info please
[20:38] <happynewb> TJ- if you want i can start logging and give you it?
[20:39] <MrNumber3isme> hello room
[20:40] <TJ-> happynewb: you need to keep a watch on the logs in /var/log/ and ensure they are active and growing and not stopped in the past. You should read /var/log/syslog and /var/log/auth.log regularly to ensure the system has no signs of problems or attempts to compromise it
[20:40] <cdk_> when i navigate to the iso and click on it it highlights it i then click open but it does not show up on the main section
[20:40] <perdouille_> Still dead :(
[20:40] <perdouille_> There is a lot of things under lost+found, so I believe the fsck didn't really worked
[20:41] <MrNumber3isme> I'm looking for a distro that I can use as a home file server. but I have no internet at home, so it would need to come with samba pre-installed, and I'm a bit of a noob as well, so it would be nice if I can just click on the folders, and hit share this folder. I would prefer something based off debian/ubuntu. any thoughts?
[20:41] <TJ-> perdouille_: fsck puts lost files in that location.
[20:41] <Ben64> perdouille_: thats where... ^
[20:41] <Bashing-om> perdouille_: ? What, booting the install with the boot parameter "nomodeset" does not boot to the GUI ?
[20:41] <OerHeks> cdk_, .. click open? i see no open button in startupdiskcreator
[20:41] <happynewb> TJ- as for compromise, i have something for that with a web frontend but will do the others too
[20:41] <perdouille_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12742872/
[20:42] <perdouille_> Is there a way to put those things back in their original location, or am I good to reinstall everything  ?
[20:42] <perdouille_> Nope Bashing-om, it didn't work
[20:42] <Ben64> MrNumber3isme: you might want to ask ##linux this is the Ubuntu support channel. Or you could install ubuntu and install samba then disconnect the internet
[20:43] <TJ-> perdouille_: if the file-system suffered a high degree of corruption causing lost files, I'd recommend a reinstall after first checking the underlying hardware doesn't have a fault.
[20:43] <cdk_> there is when you navigate toi your iso and select it there is an open button
[20:43] <happynewb> TJ- thanks for the help again though, will idle now, back to what i was doing, fixing my web frontends with chrome gay security
[20:43] <MrNumber3isme> thank you Ben64
[20:43] <perdouille_> It's on an SSD and Windows is working well so I don't think it's the hardware
[20:43] <perdouille_> that's really weird :/
[20:44] <TJ-> perdouille_: OK... always worth checking 'dmesg' and /var/log/kern.log for signs of I/O errors - sometimes can be caused by driver/controller issues rather than storage device failures. If no sign then you're safe to do a reinstall
[20:44] <perdouille_> I can't do dmesg if I can't boot under Linux, can I
[20:44] <perdouille_> ?
[20:44] <kadiro_> any one can help?
[20:45] <OerHeks> cdk_, ah oke. so it does not open, is the iso greyed out?
[20:45] <TJ-> perdouille_: the file-system damage was likely caused by powering off before the in-memory file block cache had been written to the storage. You can use Alt+SysRq+S to cause the kernel to SYNC the data even if the system is otherwise unresponsive
[20:45] <perdouille_> I had an hard time making my wifi work under Ubuntu, I can't remember how I did it...
[20:46] <perdouille_> And now I'll have to do it again ^
[20:46] <cdk_> no the iso is the same as the others which it will let me select and when i click open it goes back to the drive and iso navigation screen
[20:46] <TJ-> perdouille_: if the corruption doesn't affect the files in /var/log/, you should be able to use a Live ISO image to mount the file-system and access that /var/log/kern.log
[20:46] <kadiro_> any one see my question before freenode disconnect me?
[20:47] <Ben64> kadiro: instead of asking that, you could have asked your actual question
[20:47] <Bashing-om> perdouille_: ^^ or try and boot the install to terminal .
[20:48] <perdouille_> Bashing-om: what do you mean ?
[20:48] <perdouille_> I have access to
[20:48] <OerHeks> cdk_, then i have no idea, sorry, maybe someone else in this channel ?
[20:49] <kadiro_> Ben64: you suggess me to try it?
[20:49] <perdouille_> I have access to /var/log/kern.log but nothing seems wrong
[20:49] <hever__> Hello, is there a good way to show my evolution tasks in a gnome shell applet?
[20:49] <Bashing-om> perdouille_: What release are you on ? As with 15.04 systemd booting to terminal is a different procedure .
[20:50] <TJ-> MrNumber3isme: I think the desktop live ISOs have the samba packages in them, let me check
[20:50] <perdouille_> I don't remember
[20:51] <kadiro_> any one confirm please?
[20:51] <perdouille_> is there a way to know ?
[20:51] <kadiro_> etc/issue
[20:51] <OerHeks> kadiro_, waiting for your question, suggest to try what?
[20:52] <perdouille_> 15.04
[20:52] <Bashing-om> perdouille_: One could boot the liveDVD and from the file manager see what is in the install's '/etc/issue' file .
[20:52] <stefan__> Does someone knows EKOS?
[20:52] <kadiro_>  http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/131311/moving-var-home-to-separate-partition
[20:52] <kadiro_> the link is safe?
[20:52] <perdouille_> Yep Bashing-om it's 15.04
[20:52] <kadiro_> I want only to move var
[20:53] <kadiro_> the problem is another think but i have no choice just to move var directory may be that solve my problem
[20:54] <aotea> PPAs, how do they work? I mean, I installed docky/planky, used non official ppa for it. Now I remove planky, ppa is still there. Not listed in /etc/apt/sources though.
[20:55] <samsky> hello guys
[20:55] <kadiro_> OerHeks: any idea?
[20:57] <cdk_> what is the linux mint support channel?
[20:57] <julian-delphiki> !mint | cdk_
[20:57] <create_solar_cri> i have problem with ubuntu
[20:58] <create_solar_cri> when ubuntu start with dvd screen stop and hold
[20:58] <create_solar_cri> error
[20:58] <create_solar_cri> hold
[20:58] <prictlesz> create_solar_cri: wow
[20:58] <create_solar_cri> what to do ?
[20:59] <create_solar_cri> what wow ?
[21:00] <julian-delphiki> create_solar_cri, thats honestly not an error message i've ever seen. can you give us the full error message?
[21:00] <prictlesz> julian-delphiki: yep
[21:00] <kadiro> sorry freenode disconnected again
[21:00] <kadiro> OerHeks: any idea please?
[21:00] <prictlesz> kadiro: no
[21:00] <OerHeks> kadiro, just read that article, i think it is not wise, /var/ contains logs, that should all be redirected.
[21:01] <TJ-> aotea: repo entries for PPAs are usually added to their own file under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[21:02] <kadiro> omg
[21:02] <prictlesz> kadiro: what
[21:02] <create_solar_cri> with linux as fedora is ok
[21:02] <create_solar_cri> but ubuntu stop at booting
[21:03] <julian-delphiki> create_solar_cri, right, but what's the actual error message when it doesn't boot.
[21:03] <kadiro> prictlesz: why you pm me and insulte me?
[21:03] <julian-delphiki> he also did that to me kadiro
[21:03] <create_solar_cri> no any message
[21:03] <create_solar_cri> just hold
[21:03] <julian-delphiki> create_solar_cri, I'm not sure how to help then... it depends on hardware at that point likely
[21:04] <prictlesz> julian-delphiki: yes sir
[21:04] <TJ-> kadiro: Do you have additional partitions/file-systems to contain new /var/ and /home/ ?
[21:04] <create_solar_cri> ok thanks
[21:04] <kadiro> TJ-: I created a ext3 a blank partition
[21:05] <prictlesz> kadiro: yes miss
[21:05] <kadiro> because i have no enought space that why i asked to move var directory
[21:05] <aotea> TJ-: Yeah thanks, just found it on http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them/40351#40351 :P
[21:05] <julian-delphiki> well, I guess we have to call the ops, then. prictlesz
[21:05] <OerHeks> prictlesz, stop that please, you are not helpfull.
[21:06] <lericson> so um did the package maintainers screw up APT?
[21:06] <Jdfskitz> Exec=env PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=60 /usr/share/playonlinux/playonlinux --run "League of Legends" %F      (in the .desktop file) <- solution for choppy sound in Games
[21:06] <prictlesz> OerHeks: yes
[21:06] <kadiro> julian-delphiki: ignore it he can't pm you again
[21:06] <lericson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1503382
[21:06] <julian-delphiki> !ops prictlesz is pming people in here, insulting them.
[21:06] <aotea> TJ-: It's still showing in my Software center under Installed though
[21:06] <OerHeks> julian-delphiki, kadiro join #ubuntu-ops for this dude.
[21:06] <OerHeks> oh, he is gone
[21:06] <julian-delphiki> *shrug* he can still be banned.
[21:07] <kadiro> good
[21:07] <kadiro> I don't know he do that
[21:07] <kadiro> why he*
[21:07] <TJ-> aotea: in the GUI if you untick a repository, it renames the underlying file to .save instead of .list so it is no longer used by apt
[21:08] <TJ-> kadiro: Do you want to move both /var/ and /home/ or just one? Ideally you want a new partition/LVM-LV/file-system for each
[21:09] <kadiro> just var directory TJ-
[21:09] <aotea> TJ-: But how do I remove it from even showing?
[21:10] <TJ-> aotea: I'm not sure if the GUI allows deleting the entry entirely; to lose the file do "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<filename>" as revealed by "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[21:11] <cdk_> how do i install a network adapter driver that is in .deb format?
[21:11] <ubernoob> hi! just wondering if anyone knows how to remove entries from the BURG bootloader? I have 5 options for two operating systems, I want 2 entries only. Thanks!
[21:11] <xahn> is Mint a part of ubuntu, or are they a different people of different platform
[21:11] <TJ-> kadiro: It is possible to do it one of two ways. 1. reboot into recovery, or 2. boot from a Live ISO and make the changes on the target system
[21:12] <auronandace> !mint | xahn
[21:12] <xahn> ah alright
[21:12] <xahn> but what I was asking isnt about support, just the fact that if I run mint, am I able to say that I am still using ubuntu?
[21:12] <kadiro> TJ-: thk's a lot this is an easy way
[21:12] <cdk_> xahn join ! mint i will be there
[21:13] <xahn> I don't want to go to another network man
[21:13] <xahn> I'm ok here in freenode.
 : what os you are using?
[21:13] <kadiro> TJ-: so automatically the system think that var is in another partition?
[21:13] <cdk_> the channel
[21:13] <Zeklandia> My gnome-boxes can't start any VM's, it says the process exited while connecting to the monitor
[21:13] <Zeklandia> can anyone help me?
[21:13] <xahn> I'm not using Mint yet, just checked distrowatch and debating weather to use just a plain ubuntu which ive used in the past and like, or just go for Mint which suppose to be also a ubuntu with added features.
[21:14] <OerHeks> xahn, mint has its own issues, so useless to say you use ubuntu.
[21:14] <xahn> OerHeks: what kind of issues
[21:15] <OerHeks> xahn, i don't name them all, mint has its own softwarecenter and more.
[21:15] <pissthepot> hey
[21:15] <xahn> I'm just debating right now, to use plain ubuntu that Ive used before or try this Mint stuff
[21:15] <xahn> distrowatch has mint as #1
[21:15] <pissthepot> mint ist
[21:15] <pissthepot> BST
[21:15] <pissthepot> MINT IS BEST
[21:15] <ubernoob> Kubuntu is best!
[21:15] <OerHeks> !ot
[21:16] <xahn> kubuntu is a ubuntu with a Ksomething
[21:16] <xahn> kde
[21:16] <xahn> or whatever
[21:16] <ubernoob> KDE
[21:16] <pissthepot> kde is anyway shit
[21:16] <xahn> yep, I never liked kde
[21:16] <miko> Ubuntu Mate is the best :)
[21:16] <ubernoob> why not?
[21:16] <xahn> I usually go for xfce, or basic gnome
[21:16] <xahn> xfce is faster, smoother, easier.
[21:16] <TJ-> kadiro: if you were working from the Live ISO, and the target system were on /dev/sda, with the current root file-system in /dev/sda1 and the new partition for /var/ at /dev/sda3, you'd do "mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda3; mkdir /mnt/target /mnt/var; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/target; mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/var; mv /mnt/target/var/* /mnt/var/; echo "UUID=$(sudo blkid -o value -S UUID /dev/sda2) /var ext4 defaults 0 2" | tee -a
[21:16] <TJ-> /mnt/target/etc/fstab;"
[21:16] <ubernoob> i strongly dislike xfce lol
[21:17] <abspritzen> i hate xfce too
[21:17] <xahn> Love ubuntu, but I wana try Mint for few days, I just love experimenting
[21:17] <abspritzen> only love mate and cinnamon
[21:17] <ubernoob> I use kubuntu/ubuntu studio
[21:17] <abspritzen> studio is not good either
[21:17] <abspritzen> best is ubuntu
[21:17] <julian-delphiki> hey guys, this is a bit offtopic.
[21:17] <abspritzen> or mint cinnamon / mate
[21:17] <julian-delphiki> :)
[21:17] <abspritzen> julian-delphiki: doesnt matter
[21:18] <auronandace> xahn: nobody is stopping you from running mint, you just can't get support for mint here
[21:18] <OerHeks> abspritzen, change your irc name to something normal, thanks.
[21:18] <ubernoob> i dislike the way regular ubuntu looks and operates
 : if you try mint you will stay and never return..
[21:18] <xahn> auronandace: alright man, I get it now.
[21:18] <xahn> pmaxk: hahahah seriously?
[21:18] <ubernoob> i liked ubuntu 10.04 a lot tho!
[21:18] <xahn> !latest
[21:18] <sorryname> No not 10.04
[21:18] <sorryname> only like 14.04 and 16.04 is good too
[21:18] <xahn> !last ubuntu version
[21:18] <sorryname> !last
[21:18] <sorryname> !version
[21:18] <xahn> you are intelligent man, don't ever underestimate yourself.
[21:18] <sorryname> !latest
[21:19] <sorryname> yes
[21:19] <xahn> Whats the latest ubuntu version
[21:19] <pmaxk> yes and not cause ubuntu but unity
[21:19] <terrasapien> ubuntu is not configurable enough for my preferences
[21:19] <sorryname> 16.04
[21:19] <sorryname> it is LTS
[21:19] <sorryname> Stable and fast
[21:19] <ubernoob> im really into customization, which I find the newer distros lack. a lot of the themes i loved for window dont work anymore
[21:19] <sorryname> What i really hate is the KDE
[21:19] <ubernoob> yes i agree terrasapien
[21:19] <julian-delphiki> sorryname, ubuntu 16.04 isn't out yet...
[21:19] <sorryname> julian-delphiki: i have it here.
[21:20] <sorryname> terrasapien: what do you use
[21:20] <sorryname> terrasapien: debian pure is too old !!!
[21:20] <terrasapien> kde
[21:20] <terrasapien> just about to install kbuntu 15.4
[21:20] <terrasapien> hope that's better
[21:20] <sorryname> terrasapien:YOU compare Apple with meolnes
[21:20] <sorryname> I talk about OS not ABOUT DE!!!
[21:20] <ubernoob> terrasapien: yeah i'm using kubuntu 15.10, loving i
[21:20] <sorryname> terrasapien:
[21:20] <julian-delphiki> sorryname, no, no you don't.
[21:20] <sorryname> KDE is really the latest ...
[21:20] <sorryname> Not good
[21:21] <sorryname> But what should i Use
[21:21] <sorryname> have i7 479k 16gig
[21:21] <terrasapien> although I did poke around with ubuntu 15.4 for a bit and thought better of it than last time
[21:21] <sorryname> and 512 GB ssd
[21:21] <julian-delphiki> sorryname, please try to keep your responses all on one line. It makes it hard to read the conversation when you break it up like that.
[21:21] <locksmith2> Hello -- I want to use the build-in Backup feature in unbuntu, but I want to back up the while system from the /  up. How can I do this? Should I log in as root when I am setting up the backup then?
[21:21] <terrasapien> it does have a nice feel now at least
[21:21] <sorryname> which SHOULD i Pit?
[21:21] <locksmith2> The Whole System *
[21:21] <sorryname> have i7 479k 16gig 512 GB ------ which OS should I pick?=
[21:22] <ubernoob> sorryname: KUbuntu
[21:22] <sorryname> Yes but
[21:22] <sorryname> Which version
[21:22] <ubernoob> i'm using 15.10
[21:22] <sorryname> should really pick KU buuntu?
[21:22] <terrasapien> but I was unable to adjust the keyboard response time
[21:22] <sorryname> who means I should use KDE?
[21:22] <ubernoob> its great for faster systems
[21:22] <sorryname> and who says XFCE
[21:22] <julian-delphiki> sorryname, any ubuntu version for desktop is fine. I would just say standard ubuntu desktop is fine.
[21:22] <sorryname> what now? kde or normal
[21:23] <sorryname> i have very fast SYSTEMS
[21:23] <terrasapien> I like 125 millisecond delay after pressing a key until it starts to type
[21:23] <ubernoob> then use KDE
[21:23] <sorryname> really kdeß
[21:23] <terrasapien> ubuntu was set too slow
[21:23] <sorryname> *?
[21:23] <sorryname> ubuntu is too slow okay
[21:24] <julian-delphiki> sorryname, btw, wanted to tell you that #ubuntu-de exists, if you'd rather talk to people auf deutsch.
[21:24] <sorryname> no
[21:24] <sorryname> definetly not
[21:24] <sorryname> there no help
[21:25] <ubernoob> KDE is a little bit slower on initial loading that regular ubuntu
[21:25] <ubernoob> because its heavier
[21:25] <terrasapien> especially after a pot of coffee -- felt like I could go pour another cup waiting for the pressed key to start typing
[21:25] <ubernoob> terrasapien: thats unusual
[21:25] <sorryname> in KDE?
[21:25] <sorryname> terrasapien: do you hate kde too
[21:25] <julian-delphiki> I wouldn't call that 100% conclusive. I bet on fast systems there's not much of a load difference
[21:25] <sorryname> [21:26] <ubernoob> julian-delphiki: very true
[21:26] <sorryname> yes but i hate KDE
[21:26] <ubernoob> sorryname: why not?
[21:26] <julian-delphiki> sorryname, then don't use it?
[21:26] <sorryname> okay but it is slow
[21:26] <sorryname> and overloaded
[21:27] <ubernoob> i have no slowdowns with kde and i have a 3gz processor
[21:27] <TJ-> sorryname: Please discuss relative merits in another channel such as #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for technical support
[21:27] <julian-delphiki> TJ-, he told me that 'doesnt matter' :)
[21:27] <sorryname> TJ-: doenst matter
[21:28] <ubernoob> no matter what you choose, it will be infinately faster than windows :)
[21:29] <tuxedo_> and more security and private
[21:35] <umpfag> help please
[21:36] <umpfag> on firefox, I cannot install any new app
[21:36] <umpfag> and I dont know why
[21:36] <locksmith2> So uhhh can anyone answer me?
[21:36] <julian-delphiki> umpfag, what sort of 'app'
[21:36] <locksmith2> Hello -- I want to use the build-in Backup feature in unbuntu, but I want to back up the whole system from the /  up. How can I do this? Should I log in as root when I am setting up the backup then?
[21:36] <umpfag> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-overrider/?src=search
[21:36] <pmaxk> app on firefox..?
[21:36] <umpfag> add on
[21:36] <umpfag> sorry
[21:36] <pmaxk> oh
[21:37] <pmaxk> why?
[21:37] <umpfag> I click on the button to install it, but it always get stuck on "veifying"
[21:37] <umpfag> if I change the tab or window, thhe "verifying" menu disappears
[21:37] <julian-delphiki> locksmith2, i think you can just change it to backup /
[21:38] <locksmith2> when im using a normal user?
[21:38] <aotea> is it possible my software center is showing the same program in two different ppa's?
[21:39] <julian-delphiki> locksmith2, give it a try, the daemon for it may run as root.
[21:39] <locksmith2> k
[21:39] <pmaxk> umpfag : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unable-install-add-ons-extensions-or-themes
[21:41] <wileee> aotea, It is best to look at the ppa page and see what is there and for which release, that info you should know if you can.
[21:43] <Wachu> %
[21:46] <kadiro> TJ-: it worked but i think var is twice
[21:46] <TJ-> kadiro: what do you mean?
[21:47] <kadiro> can i past df -h here?
[21:48] <pmaxk> you can use dpaste.com
[21:48] <Lildirt> 'ello. So, I've a rather interesting issue. I'm trying to use X11 forwarding over SSH to forward a Steam client from one system to this one. However, it appears that each time I do this, Xorg crashes on THIS system (not the one that is being SSH'd into). I'm able to pull up the Steam ToS (where you have to accept), sometimes able to get through the patching process, but once it has to open the actual Steam login screen itself .. it freaks out and Xorg imm
[21:48] <Lildirt> ediately crashes. I have very little if anything at all in my syslog about this problem.
[21:48] <Lildirt> The only error I have to go with this is "steamwebhelper[8975]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000f26dec19 sp 00000000ffe0df20 error 4 in libcef.so[f2241000+501b000]", which seems to be dropped by Steam but this doesn't really turn anything up.
[21:48] <Lildirt> Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here? I'd like to get this working.
[21:48] <aotea> wileee: the ppa page says it creates three binaries which sure enough is the ones I couldn't get rid off. But trying to remove those I got told I'd then also have to remove a few other packages.
[21:48] <kadiro> ok thk's that will take a time
[21:48] <wileee> !ppa-purge | aotea generally the best move, ppa's are not a good move really
[21:50] <wileee> aotea, Really all you need to know is how to remove what you install so be sure you know. ;)
[21:51] <aotea> wileee: 'apt-get purge remove <packagename>' wouldn't suffice?
[21:52] <wileee> aotea, With ppa's you get pckgs and dependencies not in the ubuntu repos, so when you start messing around with it you can have issues. There is a standard process.
[21:52] <kadiro> TJ-: http://dpaste.com/0Y8DQ20
[21:53] <wileee> aotea, You're asking for an answer to something you have not identified, and is really generalized is all.
[21:53] <kadiro> I think i will back to old var
[21:54] <TJ-> kadiro: how did you get "/media/kadiro/VIDEOS/var" mounted to /var/ ?
[21:55] <kadiro> from fstab
[21:55] <kadiro> like that: /media/kadiro/VIDEOS/var /var        none    bind
[21:56] <umpfag> i cannot directly install any new addon the normal way, I have to right click, download the xpi file and open it with firefox why?
[21:57] <TJ-> kadiro: Not sure how/why you did that, but that wasn't in the instructions I showed you
 : does the link help you?
[21:58] <kadiro> TJ-: I found another one look like the first link
[21:58] <umpfag> pmaxk, I followed the instructions, and the page I was trying to download the addon from (the official one) was listed there already
[21:58] <kadiro> now my application work good but i fear i have a double var
[21:59] <kadiro> when i add a file to a normal var i found it also under a new partition above
[21:59] <pmaxk> then use this with very carefull > http://winaero.com/blog/fix-firefox-35-cant-install-add-ons-and-extensions/
[21:59] <pmaxk> umpfag : very very carefull
[22:00] <kadiro> i will try to add a big file to see thk's TJ-
[22:01] <umpfag> pmaxk, FF 45
[22:01] <TJ-> kadiro: I've no idea what you've done there but it looks terribly wrong. If you'd used my instructions you'd have a the partition correctly mounted
[22:01] <umpfag> HERE
[22:01] <kadiro> yes TJ- i booted from a live iso and do a work
[22:02] <wileee> umpfag, FF 41 is in the ubuntu repos, what you have if 45 is what?
[22:02] <umpfag> oo
[22:02] <umpfag> sorry
[22:02] <umpfag> 41, yes
[22:02] <umpfag> my mistake
[22:02] <pmaxk> umpfag check parameter dom.indexedDB.enabled if it is It is set to false in about:config
[22:02] <wileee> umpfag, Cool, your not rooting it?
[22:02] <umpfag> im reading now your second link
[22:03] <umpfag> i dont know what rooting means
[22:03] <wileee> umpfag, sudo....etc
[22:03] <kadiro> i renamed a var to var.old and create a blank one then i copied a content of var.old to a new var in a new ext3 partition
[22:03] <kadiro> but i see always a content into a blank var
[22:03] <kadiro> or is just a link?
[22:04] <wileee> umpfag, You're just clicking the icon on the desktop right? checking the about:config never hurts.
[22:04] <eatingthenight> Anyway to allow all users on a server to access group X?
[22:04] <umpfag> STOP BOMBING me with messages, im trying to fix the damned problem
[22:05] <kadiro> TJ-: it worked cool thk's
[22:05] <wileee> umpfag, Soory, your in ignore now we will have no problems.
[22:05] <kadiro> i added a big file to a new var and i see always my system with a same space :D
[22:06] <TJ-> eatingthenight: Yes, using POSIX ACLs. See "man acl"
[22:06] <eatingthenight> will do thanks
[22:07] <kadiro> TJ-: thk's a lot you are a genius
[22:09] <umpfag> no pmaxk , this second idea didnt work either
[22:10] <umpfag> something odd happened
[22:11] <umpfag> i was able to install one addon the regular way
[22:11] <umpfag> ???
[22:11] <kadiro> umpfag: why not using superbird
[22:11] <umpfag> what is superbird?
[22:11] <kadiro> firefox is bad
[22:12] <kadiro> a small light like chrome but open source
[22:12] <kadiro> you can said a small chromium
[22:12] <kadiro> I use it and support all thing from chrome
[22:16] <omilun> hello i need to help ... my laptop did have internet and i use this command
[22:16] <omilun>  sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8"> /etc/resolv.conf
[22:17] <omilun> and now i cant use proxy on chrome
[22:18] <TJ-> omilun: it still 'has' internet, but you BROKE DNS :)
[22:18] <omilun> hello i need to help ... my laptop didnt have internet and i use this command
[22:18] <omilun> sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8"> /etc/resolv.conf
[22:18] <pi-> How can I 'background' a shell command, so that it will continue running even after I logout?
[22:18] <omilun> TJ-: i didnt have internet
[22:20] <TJ-> omilun: I bet you did. "ping -nc 5 8.8.8.8"
[22:20] <TJ-> pi-: run it using a terminal multiplexer such as 'screen' or 'tmux'
[22:20] <omilun> TJ-: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4004ms
[22:20] <kadiro> I have may be a same question as you omilun
[22:21] <kadiro> in mine when my brother connect to my router i loose internet
[22:22] <umpfag> how much time does my ff need to verify an addon? its been so for 2 minutes already
[22:23] <omilun> kadiro: i could conect to my modem but i didnt have internet with wifi and ethernet
[22:23] <TJ-> omilun: told you - 'Internet' is working; you've got a broken DNS (name lookup) though
[22:23] <kadiro> no idea umpfag i use firefox only on a simple pages not work for video and addon for me and vry very slow
[22:24] <TJ-> omilun: this would NOT do what you think it does: " sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8"> /etc/resolv.conf"
[22:24] <omilun> TJ-: ok now how can i fix it
[22:24] <kadiro> how you do that? omilun
[22:24] <TJ-> omilun: it should be "echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf"   - notice where the sudo is!
[22:24] <kadiro> without cable or wifi
[22:24] <omilun> TJ-: hey man ... i search on ubuntu.com
[22:25] <TJ-> omilun: but still, over-writing /etc/resolv.conf is the WRONG way to do it. Network Manager is responsible for setting the DNS nameservers, so the nameserver IP addresses should be configured via the NM connection editor
[22:26] <omilun> TJ-: network manager was auto dns and now it is
[22:27] <TJ-> omilun: Right, if NM is set to use DHCP to get the correct nameservers and they aren't good, then you can alter the connection config to set your own DNS servers
[22:28] <omilun> now nm is auto dns and it was auto dns
[22:28] <kadiro> omilun: why not trying to manually configure it
[22:30] <omilun> kadiro: because when you can connect to the internet u cant do any thing
[22:30] <omilun> kadiro: and i used phone for find a fucking command for fix my laptop
[22:31] <kadiro> no swear man
[22:31] <kadiro> i means from nm do a manuall ip and dns
[22:31] <omilun> kadiro: swear?
[22:32] <Bonn333> o.0...
[22:32] <kadiro> between find and command in your last word
[22:32] <Bonn333> Mute/Ban?
[22:32] <omilun> kadiro: i used manuall ip and dns
[22:33] <kadiro> omilun: when you ping an address you get a response?
[22:34] <omilun> kadiro: and now i use manuall ip but i didnt have internat ... when i used those command my internet came back
[22:34] <TJ-> omilun: see the screenshot of the NM connection editor dialog here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/240179/two-different-dns-on-router-and-pc
[22:34] <omilun> TJ-: thx
[22:34] <pi-> tx TJ-
[22:35] <kadiro> omilun: if you did: sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8"> /etc/resolv.conf it work?
[22:36] <kadiro> if yes you can do a same into nm to be automated
[22:36] <omilun> kadiro: yes it worked
[22:36] <TJ-> omilun: the reason we don't change /etc/resolv.conf is that is actually a symbolic link to the real file, which contains an entry for the local DNS server on your PC (dnsmasq) which is controlled and configured by Network Manager.
[22:36] <omilun> kadiro: and i'm now hear
[22:37] <kadiro> you want it every log?
[22:37] <kadiro> you must do that from nm
[22:38] <kadiro> under ipv4 parameter
[22:38] <TJ-> omilun: Ubuntu Desktop with Network Manager has its own caching/proxy DNS server, dnsmasq, listening on localhost (127.0.0.1) and that is what should be in "/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf" - and /etc/resolv.conf is just a symbolic link to that file. Once you manually replace it, any thing you do with Network Manager won't take effect
[22:39] <kadiro> ah no i see
[22:41] <kadiro> s/no/now
[22:46] <omilun> TJ-: no ... when i change /etc/resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 ... i cant connect to the internet ... but thx for help
[22:47] <TJ-> omilun: We KNOW that, that is expected! But THEN you but the DNS entries for the servers that do work in the NEtwork Manager configuration, as shown in that askubuntu link I gave you
[22:48] <omilun> didnt work
[22:48] <TJ-> omilun: notice the screenshot has "Method: Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" and has MANUAL entries in the "DNS servers:" box
[22:48] <TJ-> omilun: that is where you would put the Google DNS address 8.8.8.8
[22:49] <TJ-> omilun: once that is added, you'll need to disconnect/reconnect that network interface for the new setting to take effect
[22:52] <umpfag> ok guys
[22:52] <umpfag> you deserve my appreciation
[22:53] <umpfag> unlike firefox, you actually help people
[22:57] <TJ-> omilun: You also need to recognise that "cannot connect to Internet" is incorrect; The correct statement is "The PC cannot resolve DNS names to IP addresses". We already proved the PC *CAN* connect to the Internet because "ping -nc 5 8.8.8.8" worked fine. The problem is not connectivity - it is failure of the DNS configuration from your local network's gatewat/router
[22:58] <omilun> TJ-: all of things are these
[22:59] <omilun> TJ-: but i can use proxy with chrome
[23:00] <omilun> TJ-: it's 2:30am and i need to sleep but i need to proxy for read information
[23:00] <omilun> TJ-: i hate iran ... oohhhh godddddddddddddddddddd
[23:01] <neo_> i hate iran too
[23:01] <kadiro> good night omilun
[23:01] <omilun> neo_: :(
[23:02] <Mdxxx> anyone here use lubuntu?
[23:03] <kadiro> me
[23:03] <kadiro> but i'm not on it now
[23:03] <kadiro> why Mdxxx
[23:04] <Mdxxx> Is there a way to have my digital clock panel widget to display two time zones at the same time?
[23:05] <kadiro> to times?
[23:06] <Mdxxx> right now I have my local time. I would also like to have a 24-Hour UTC time next to it.
[23:06] <orion> Hi. Does anyone know why, when I create a bridge and assign a v6 IP to it on 15.04, I am unable to contact v6 hosts? No firewall is enabled, and I have the proper routes in place. v6 networking works properly on eth0, but not br0.
[23:07] <orion> Additionally, I have KVM installed.
[23:07] <omilun> Mdxxx: u need two time ? for example London and Texas ?
[23:07] <kadiro> Mdxxx: try to right click on times zone
[23:08] <TJ-> omilun: orion have you attached routable interfaces to the bridge
[23:08] <kadiro> or on the pannel if you want to add something
[23:08] <TJ->  orion: (sorry) have you attached routable interfaces to the bridge
[23:09] <orion> TJ-: Yes. I am able to SSH in to the box.
[23:10] <orion> The IPv4 address that sshd is listening on is assigned to br0, not eth0
[23:10] <TJ-> orion: so eth0 is a port on br0 ?
[23:10] <orion> yes
[23:11] <uio> Hi - I tried to install the geany-plugin-latex, but upon 'compile' I get the error message :
[23:11] <TJ-> orion: when you said "unable to contact..." did you mean using IPv6 addresses, not names?
[23:11] <uio> kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdflatex.fmt
[23:11] <uio> I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'!
[23:11] <uio> "
[23:11] <orion> TJ-: Yes. DNS is not a factor.
[23:12] <TJ-> orion: So is this a VM guest also on the bridge, with eth0 connected to an upstream router/gateway?
[23:13] <orion> No, this is a VM host.
[23:13] <TJ-> orion: So your failure is from the host via the upstream router/gateway ?
[23:13] <orion> Correct.
[23:13] <Bohemus> What is the correct way to install the latest nvidia drivers?
[23:14] <TJ-> orion: what specific error, and from what tool?
[23:14] <orion> TJ-: I am trying to telnet to google (port 80, IP, not hostname), and the connection times out.
[23:14] <TJ-> Bohemus: "ubuntu-drivers list" should get you started
[23:15] <TJ-> orion: OK, try a "tracepath6 ...."
[23:20] <zippo^> which option is the best: clean installation or upgrade?
[23:20] <orion> TJ-: I am unable to continue troubleshooting for various reasons.
[23:21] <umpfag> http_proxy=";" chromium-browser << doesnt override my proxy settings. How do I do it?
[23:22] <flexhaart> Hello irc
[23:22] <Bashing-om> zippo^: Which ever is best for your use case situation . A clean fresh install is always a good thing .
[23:23] <zippo^> ok, Bashing-om
[23:35] <umpfag> how do I configure sxchat so every link it opens get opened in firefox and not in chrome?
[23:37] <lilmoe> hi
[23:38] <lilmoe> mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb2 on /mnt/usb-Generic_Flash_Disk_8004CC2C-0:0-part2
[23:38] <lilmoe> someone help ? :P
[23:41] <wakeatnight> hi
[23:41] <wakeatnight> i keep having black borders aroudn buttons in say evolution if i use something besides Ambiance
[23:41] <wakeatnight> what can I do?
[23:53]  * Mdxxx Sniffs around
[23:54] <gartral> hey all, I'm on 15.04 here and I have a problem with irssi, the alt-<number> window switching isn't working
[23:54] <orion> gartral: Use the other alt key.
[23:55] <trism> gartral: if this is gnome-terminal, Edit/Keyboard Shortcuts, uncheck enable menu access keys