[00:00] i also tried 15.04 and it doesn't work [00:01] I'm seing others with syslinux issues [00:01] like I said, it did or me today, so I have no idea. [00:26] is no one going to fix the indicator plugin? [00:45] finally! [00:45] I don't know why I didn't use dd before [00:45] but using dd and not the crappy unetbootin etc tools, it worked [00:47] thanks for the help! [00:47] 3 am, time to sleep. [02:13] hey so I am running Xubuntu 14.04 right now, and I was looking at themes for xfce4. And I found one. But then I realized, I didn't know how to install themes on xfce. So a few Duckduckgo results later and I came up with this: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes So I followed each instructions exactly and found out I have no folder titled themes in my /.local/share/ dir. So, where do I go from here? [02:14] make ~/.themes and put the theme you want there. [03:33] hey guys. anyway to install xubuntu without all the bloat? like firefox or xchat and all the other stuff? [04:04] just an xfce core with the mini install [04:04] ah quit [04:05] !xubuntu-core [04:05] Xubuntu Core is a slimmed down version of Xubuntu that doesn't come with all the additional features of a full and modern desktop. To install: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-core^ » (A xubuntu-core task is also available from the !minimal ISO) [04:06] I usually give my most brilliant advice after they've left channel .,, [04:09] heh same [04:09] safer that way === dreamon_ is now known as dreamon [13:54] where did the screensaver settings disappear? [13:56] xscreensaver is known to conflict with lightlocker. in fact, it's recommended for removal [14:04] cfhowlett: so under power management, i select a lock [14:05] i dont really care about screensaver, i care about the lock [14:05] state your actual question [14:06] my screen does not lock on idle [14:06] the screen goes blank after 15 minutes... [14:06] sleep in 20 minutes, but there is no way to enable locking [14:06] bring this question to #ubuntu please. [14:07] why to ubuntu? [14:08] more eyes [14:08] More eyes [14:08] does your lock work? [14:09] a1fa: To make clear...you want the machine to lock on IDLE not SLEEP ? [14:09] both [14:10] I don't think ther's a easy way to make it sleep on idle...don't remember ever seeing that option. Sleep is another matter [14:10] But then I never care about locking, so I may have missed something. [14:10] under light-locker, it says my screensaver is managed by xfce-power [14:11] so both xfce power manager, and light locker have the same setting [14:12] so i cant activate light locker when monitor goes blank? [14:12] No idea, don't use it. [14:12] you dont lock your screen? [14:13] nope...I don't go anywhere I don't trust whoever is around. [14:15] a1fa: You're not having problems locking when the machine goes to sleep, are you? [14:17] my machine does not go to sleep [14:17] my guess is, that works fine [14:17] Then why " a1fa: To make clear...you want the machine to lock on IDLE not SLEEP ? [14:17] both" [14:18] Well, you might test it, just to make sure the process works, then worry about "idle" [14:29] drc: do you use the indicator plugin? [14:29] yes [14:29] click about computer, tell me if it works [14:30] I have no "About Computer" in my indicator plugin [14:30] You mean "About"? [14:30] Yes it works. [14:34] does the logout work? [14:34] and lock within indicator plugin [14:35] We must have two different Indicator Plugins. [14:35] a1fa: you know that different people use different versions of xubuntu - with different defaults - what do you use? [14:39] this didnt work on 15.04, and 15.10 [14:40] ok - so you reported it as a bug or can link to the one you me too'd I assume [14:41] a1fa: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say: 1) Something's wrong with your setup...re-install, 2) You are trying to do something it's not designed to do...forget it, or 3) report it a a bug. [14:42] ftr - locking screen works fine in the 4 or 5 wily's I've installed/had installed on hardware and in vm's that I've tested for weeks [14:42] flocculant: on just idle, not sleep? [14:43] idle [14:44] odd, i wiped my .config/xfce4 [14:44] and problem persisted [14:44] got a bug report opened [14:46] a1fa: Does that mean that you opened a new bug report or there already was one? [14:47] just set to lock sleep at one minute in Display tab of Power, and auto lock session when screensaver is activated [14:47] wandered off - came back, locked [14:49] crisis averted [14:49] found bottle opener ... [14:50] a1fa: just a comment here - there actually isn't a screensaver as such - so wording in the power manager could do with changing perhaps [14:51] OK, let's define things here: 1) Sleep and 2) Idle...just to make sure we're talking about the same things. Go ahead. [14:52] sleep in 20 minutes, but there is no way to enable locking - yes there is, Security tab - set Auto lock session to when screensaver is activated [15:49] ok waking up monitor from sleep asked for password [15:51] right - so it locked [15:53] yes [15:55] a1fa: as far as reporting things and hoping to get them fixed, if you see it in the released version (especially if it's only supported for 9 months) check and see if the same thing is there in the dev version - as early as possible - then report it - when you do make sure you tag the LP bug xubuntu-exp [15:55] people actually use that tag [15:56] i'm on 15.10 at the moment, and i've had issues with indicator plugin since 14.10 (i think) [16:00] and you reported things ? [16:01] yes [16:02] link? [16:02] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/1484214 [16:02] Launchpad bug 1484214 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "Logout button not working in xfce4-indicator-plugin" [Undecided,New] [16:04] a1fa: I don't recognise those options at all [16:05] which version are you on? [16:05] 15.10 [16:05] on the far right, do you have the wheel looking icon? [16:05] I'm always on the dev version [16:05] indicator-session under indicator-plugin [16:06] let me boot the daily vm [16:06] k [16:06] one more annoyance, mouse wheel can scroll out of focus windows [16:06] never seen that [16:07] it took me a while to find the setting to disable focus on mouse wheel [16:07] a1fa: Window Manager Tweaks->Workspaces-> use mouse... ? [16:07] "Raise Windows when any mouse button is pressed" [16:08] and one more annoyance under Panel Settings > Window Buttons [16:08] siwtch windows using mouse wheel [16:08] OK, I'm out [16:08] a1fa: http://i.imgur.com/IRXTMkk.png [16:09] flocculant: can you bring xfce into focus [16:09] click on the furthest right icon, the session icon, and see if there is "About this Computer" [16:09] on the left Xubuntu, on the right Ubuntu - Xubuntu doesn't have the gear icon and has none of the things you've listed in that bug report [16:10] let me take a screenshot [16:10] should i remove my xfce4 config first [16:10] so its, apples to apples? [16:11] a1fa: so you've installed Ubuntu then added xfce? [16:11] Xubuntu, then added Unity [16:11] actually, sorry you are correct [16:11] i installed Ubuntu, then added xubuntu-desktop [16:12] mmm [16:13] well I would either remove all the ubuntu packages and see where you are [16:13] though - probably quickest to reinstall with an up to date 15.10 daily after backing things up [16:13] can you take another screenshot, but expose the top of xfce [16:14] let me also take a screenshot [16:14] we have enough on our plate trying to support xubuntu - without trying to support ubuntu with xubuntu added :) [16:15] http://i.imgur.com/DXrT8eE.png [16:16] here is my screenshot [16:16] http://i.imgur.com/W1t61Xx.png [16:16] ignore plank [16:17] a1fa: right - so you have stuff there from ubuntu :) [16:17] flocculant: ok [16:19] the only reason why i like it, is for the sound panel [16:22] http://i.imgur.com/VrEZGeO.png [16:22] this is how it usually looks [16:36] a1fa: can you add that info to the bug report so people know you're talking about ubuntu bits rather than xfce ones - thanks [16:37] no problem [16:37] thanks :) [16:39] One mistery is solved [16:40] I thought this was the default Xubuntu "session", and it was driving me nutts why no one else experienced it [16:40] i guess new question is, why is my default "xfce4" sceleton config different than one that comes with normal Xubuntu install [16:42] a1fa: well it's not a normal Xubuntu install is it :) [16:42] the xfce4 session is supposed to be different from the xubuntu session [16:43] my bad - didn't read that properly [16:43] flocculant: so i got another one for you.. [16:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1484212 [16:43] Launchpad bug 1484212 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Keyboard not working in Remmina after idle. " [Undecided,New] [16:44] a1fa: ok - can you confirm that with a real Xubuntu install - if you do that then I will see if I can confirm it [16:44] k [16:48] actually not going to be able to confirm that bug - not got anything to confirm it with [16:53] flocculant: is there a keyboard shortcut to show desktop [16:53] ctrl+alt+d [16:53] nice [16:54] i made a plank thing to show desktop [16:54] xdotool key --delay 100 ctrl+alt+d [16:58] (reinstall time) [16:58] wrong resolution of plymounths// any idea [19:33] help to install xubuntu [19:42] that was good one [19:44] halp! [19:47] anyone using docker? [19:47] err plank [23:32] Hello, I am having a really severe problem with my WiFi connection ever since I upgraded [23:32] to 15.04 [23:33] basically, if I downloading anything large (say, a 1GB test file), my WiFi connection fails about halfway into it (it has failed at ~380 and 670MB, to say the extremities) [23:33] failing meaning my computer just forgets about the existence of my AP [23:33] I can connect to another AP just fine [23:34] but to see my own AP again, I have to restart my computer [23:34] even using the hardware on-off WiFi switch did not help. [23:34] dmesg says 'disassociation reason 7' - unexpected layer 3 frame [23:34] driver issue [23:35] I am using a ThinkPad T420 with an Intel 6205 card [23:35] I did not have this problem on 14.10 or 14.05 [23:35] Is it possible to roll back on this specific driver? [23:36] yes, but as you have to ask IF it is possible i doubt you get it done [23:36] I see [23:37] This problem is quite peculiar, though. For example, I was able to download some software off of VmWare's site no problem. However, when the actual software wanted to update itself, it consistently always failed. [23:38] wgetting something works, but doing the same from inside a Windows VM always gets the connection killed about halfway. [23:40] Connection got killed again, bit of a timeout. [23:40] wait, is this problem occurring only inside a vm? [23:40] Oh, I am running Windows inside a VM. [23:40] No, this occurs on the host. [23:41] the last lines made it sound like it happened in a vm only [23:42] well yeah, that's what I was saying. This problem only occurs during one, single download. [23:42] Downloading a bigger torrent (e.g. a pack of legal-to-distribute distros), e.g. lots of small, short connections cause no issue [23:43] I have found a (so far) 7/7 times reproducible way of getting my connection killed [23:44] Perhaps if I did some logging, someone could look into what could be causing the problem? [23:48] if it's a driver issue, then the likelihood of somebody looking at it are smallish [23:48] because then it means that person needs to have the same device as you [23:48] that said, it never hurts to file a bug [23:54] Well, after reading a bit about it [23:54] It seems that other people have this problem as well [23:54] and they have been able to fix it by disabling 802.11n