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[06:18] <soee> good morning
[07:24] <santa_> morning Riddell, I have seen you split the bumping of the build dependencies to a separate script, that's very good because we could share some scriptery between kubuntu and siduction, I would like to improve some things in kubuntu-automation, so do you have a few minutes to discuss the details/behaviour of some new scripts I plan to write?
[08:11] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:12] <yofel> moin
[09:24] <Riddell> hi santa_, sure
[09:29] <santa_> Riddell: ok, thats what I have in mind: working on the assumption that we usually work with 3 directories (one for frameworks other for plasma and other for apps) having all the git repos of the packaging
[09:30] <Riddell> yes
[09:30] <santa_> lets supose we are in /home/user/kubuntu/frameworks cointaning alll the repos
[09:30] <santa_> I wanted to to an script which could be executed this way:
[09:31] <santa_> dev-package-name-list -d siduction -r frameworks -v 5.15
[09:31] <santa_> this would write a file named dev-package-name-lists/frameworks-siduction.json 
[09:31] <santa_> this file would look like this:
[09:32] <santa_> {
[09:32] <santa_>     "libkf5bluezqt-dev": "TODO",
[09:32] <santa_>     "extra-cmake-modules": "TODO",
[09:32] <santa_>     "libkf5i18n-dev": "TODO",
[09:32] <santa_> ...
[09:32] <santa_> }
[09:33] <santa_> replacing TODO with the version of the -dev package in question
[09:33] <santa_> and the version would be find out this way:
[09:33] <santa_> - epoch or not, parsing changelog
[09:34] <santa_> - upstream version: inspecting ftp
[09:35] <santa_> and these json files would be used by the bumping bds script
[09:35] <Riddell> but how would you find the names of the -dev packages?
[09:36] <santa_> packages ending in -dev with some exceptions
[09:36] <santa_> I already have something similar in the siduction scriptery
[09:37] <Riddell> santa_: all sounds good, the current way of managing build-deps is simplistic and incomplete
[09:39] <santa_> yeah, I think my stuff for siduction works better :P however I have some crappy details in my scripts which I would like to change stealing some ideas from current's kubuntu-automation
[09:40] <santa_> Riddell: also I would like to write a git-clone-all script, which would clone all the repos
[09:41] <santa_> to do something like git-clone-all -r frameworks
[09:41] <Riddell> santa_: where is that useful?
[09:41] <santa_> if you screw up and want to start from scratch
[09:41] <Riddell> :)
[09:41] <santa_> also for new people ... are they suposed to clone all of them manually?
[09:43] <Riddell> cloneing is done as part of the staging and ubuntu-archive scripts
[09:43] <santa_> hmmm
[09:43] <santa_> I was kind of surprised you didn't already have one
[09:45] <santa_> I mean something to clone, ok I will focus on the json thing first
[09:48] <santa_> Riddell: also once it's done I would like to change the bump-build-dep-versions to use deb822 which seems to me more reliable than doing s/what/ever/ in the control file, would you be ok with that?
[09:48] <Riddell> santa_: I don't know what that is
[09:48] <Riddell> but if it's more reliable that can only be a good thing :)
[09:49] <santa_> it's a python library to parse and write debian control files and changelogs in a structured fashion
[09:50] <santa_> I'm using it very much in my automation scriptery
[09:50] <Riddell> sounds like just the job
[10:41] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_stable_kaccounts-integration/34/console
[10:42] <Tm_T> I started version upgrade 15.04 -> 15.10
[10:42] <Tm_T> I expect to have some conflicts once again, will try report them as they come
[10:45] <Riddell> sitter: that plugins directory just won't sit still
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[11:35] <Tm_T> aand thru, nothing meaningful issue
[12:34] <sitter> sgclark: fwiw, that merge went wrong http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_plasma-mediacenter/36/
[12:35] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_kaccounts-integration/60/
[12:36]  * bshah shall turn of highlights for mediacenter in this channel... -.-
[12:41] <sitter> sgclark: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_baloo/118/ computer says you didn't git rm patches
[12:47] <santa_> Riddell: ok, I think I got the part of generating the json files working fine, mailing kubuntu-devel...
[13:34] <sitter> sgclark: I don't see the ABI break in kdepim
[13:37] <sitter> oh
[13:37] <sitter>     This breaks the API but the widget is only used internally so i think it's something we can live on.
[13:37]  * sitter throws hands up in the air
[16:58] <allee> kgeomap
[17:22] <soee> hiho
[17:22] <lordievader> o/
[17:29] <soee> is there some app to track time ?
[17:32] <Riddell> jose: bye!
[17:33] <jose> Riddell: hi!
[17:56] <mparillo> soee: You mean a time tracking app, such as a consultant might need?
[17:58] <soee> app that will track time you spend on some tasks
[18:00] <mparillo> I never tried it (shuddering to recall when I did that @work), but if your needs are simple, I bet this would work: https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/ktimetracker/
[18:08] <soee> i do not see it in wily repos
[18:24] <mparillo> Hmm, It shows here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/ktimetracker
[18:24] <mparillo> Could it be that we need all of PIM?
[18:26] <mparillo> But if I follow the links to (in my case 32-bit), I see: ktimetracker_4.14.6-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (314.0 KiB)
[18:27] <mparillo> Running qapt ...
[19:07] <mparillo> soee: ktimetracker seems to work when I launch it from the konsole
[19:07] <soee> mparillo: coll, ill check it later
[19:07] <soee> atm. i have free account @ toggl.com
[20:49] <sgclark> ...
[21:04] <sheytan> Hey guys. Is there any magic command that allows to install kubuntu without Ubiquity? It crashes all the time ;/
[21:05] <sheytan> i have the daily build of 15.10
[21:08] <Riddell> sheytan: report bugs on crashes please :)
[21:09] <sheytan> Riddell: doesn't it report automatically as it says on the crash message?
[21:10] <Riddell> hmm dunno
[21:10] <Riddell> netboot install is the alternative way http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu392/images/netboot/mini.iso
[21:11] <sheytan> Well, i think in that case i will wait till 22.10 :D
[21:11] <sheytan> can i find somwhere the log from installation?
[21:22] <DalekSec> Usually in /var/log/installer/
[22:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: https://www.change.org/p/steven-moffat-bbc-doctor-who-production-team-get-rid-of-the-sonic-sunglasses-and-maybe-the-screwdriver-too