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calamarianyone successfully using nvidia glx drivers in wily?03:17
calamariI'm getting "failed to initialize glamor at ScreenInit() time"03:18
calamariit's weird too, because in recovery mode I can do startx and that works without error, but in normal mode the above error03:43
lordievaderGood morning.08:11
calamarimornin08:17
lordievaderHey calamari08:18
calamariI actually made some progress08:18
calamariI decided to ditch nvidia for the moment and focus on intel08:19
calamariand it gets as far as the lightdm screen08:19
calamarinever gets to the desktop, but if I run startx my x apps load .. I can't see them tho, completely black screen08:20
calamaripretty sure I'm just going to have to give up and reinstall vivid08:21
calamarinot sure why I'm having so much trouble.. xorg hasn't changed for years08:22
lordievaderOne of those hybrid things?08:29
ikamusumelordievader: hybrid? not sure I follow08:37
ikamusumeit's ubuntu mate, if that's what you were asking08:38
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lordievaderTwo graphics cards, one integrated one dedicated.08:40
calamarioh, yeah08:40
calamariit had been working fine that way under 15.04, I just disabled the intel card in the bios.08:42
calamarican't stay awake any longer.. bummed that I'll be spending my day tomorrow reinstalling. guess I've learned my lesson tho!08:45
calamarino more +1 for this squid!08:45
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EriC^^can someone running wily type lsb_release -sd and paste here please?09:16
FauxUbuntu Wily Werewolf (development branch)09:16
EriC^^thank you09:16
lordievader!schedule10:21
ubottuA schedule of wily werewolf (15.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule10:21
BluesKajHiyas all11:08
skyjumperanyone able to scroll gnome-terminal with screen running?12:22
skyjumpersomehow shift-pgup and shift-mousewheel become escape codes when screen is running12:23
sjoshiHello, where i can check the status of ubuntu15.10 e.g. how many bugs open and all that?12:42
sjoshiand what are those bugs12:42
OerHekssjoshi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily12:45
sjoshithanks OerHeks, let me check that out12:45
OerHekssjoshi, and this, total stats https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue437?action=show&redirect=UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter%2FCurrent#Ubuntu_Stats12:45
freeroutesup, anyone testing the beta of Kubuntu 15.10? What's your opinion? Stable?13:01
lordievaderLast time I ran it, it was rather stable... But it is still a beta and in development. It could be broken tommorow.13:02
fhfwilly is quite stable using mir and unity 813:03
fhfalready, not tested normal version tvbh13:03
fhftbh*13:03
freeroutelordievader: do you think it will get stable until finalrelease?13:27
lordievaderDo I think it will stay stable? Likely, but I cannot look into the future.13:28
freerouteunfortunately me neither :(13:29
techrxUbuntu 15.10 releases on the 22nd of October, correct? Are there any major differences compared to 14.04 LTS?16:54
ckocagilHello all. What's the easiest way to use a kernel older than 4.2?20:23
mcphailckocagil: install 14.04 :)20:23
ckocagilArgh.20:24
ckocagilI guess everything is too tied to 4.2 at this point?20:24
k1lckocagil: what is the issue?20:24
mcphailckocagil: not sure. You could try compiling and installing an older kernel. You can always roll "back" to 4.220:24
ckocagilk1l: I need the vmhgfs module from vmware tools20:26
ckocagilI patched it to build for 4.2, but I get kernel panic and rather not try to debug that20:26
mcphailckocagil: vmware usually catch up very quickly after a new Ubuntu release, but I've never seen them support _prior_ to official release date. Can you be patient for a couple of weeks?20:27
* mcphail has had this problem before20:28
ckocagilI can try being patient, but I'll also look for other solutions for now20:28
mcphailckocagil: Compiling an older kernel is very easy, so you could try that if you have some time20:29
ckocagilmcphail: sounds good to me20:29
lordievaderckocagil: You can stick with 15.04 until the end of it's support period. And periodically check if the vmware module works in 4.2.20:30
ckocagillordievader: but where's the fun in that? :p20:30
mcphailckocagil: the kernel makefiles are smart enough to do a "make install" in a debian/ubuntu-friendly way these days20:31
ckocagilmcphail: wow, that's actually pretty neat20:32
mcphailckocagil: just remember to turn off all the debug stuff before compiling, if you use the Ubuntu kernel config. Otherwise you'll be compiling for weeks and the kernel/module sizes will be monstrous20:33
mcphailNo idea if a pre-4.2 kernel will work, though20:34
ckocagilyeah. maybe I should debug the module.20:34
lordievaderThe other way around is usually easier, my 14.04 installs run 4.2 kernels.20:35
mcphailckocagil: there are 4.1 kernels still lurking in the !mainline repo, if you want to try those20:36
mcphail!mainline20:36
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds20:36
mcphailAre the proprietary nvidia drivers (from the default repos) working in wily just now? Just want to check before I break my install... :)20:39
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ckocagilaaaand nope. wily's open-vm-tools-dkms crashes kernel 4.0.9 too.21:05
* ckocagil sighs and looks up a kernel debugging guide21:05
fhfgl hf21:06
* ckocagil runs out of a cave, 20 years later, with a glorious white beard and shouts "at last I figured it out! where do I submit the patch?"21:08
mcphailckocagil: I think you're on a hiding-to-nothing. I'm sure there will be a binary-blob at the end of the rainbow21:09
mcphailckocagil: best stick with 14.04, or wait for vmware to sort out their drivers21:11
ckocagilmcphail: the kernel modules are open source though21:11
mcphailOK. I thought they were shims for binary blobs. You might be in luck, then21:12
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