[07:05] <Spiderixius> Hello
[08:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:30] <Spiderixius> Morning Lordie
[09:32] <lordievader> Hey Spiderixius
[11:01] <Spiderixius>  I have to add, Fishshell is darn good!
[11:01] <Spiderixius> has autocompletion based on your usage history of the terminal.
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:13] <Spiderixius> Hello Kaj
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> erm afternoon i mean
[13:17] <BluesKaj> 'morning  lotuspsychje :-)
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj :p
[13:17] <lordievader> Jumping timezones, lotuspsychje?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> lol lordievader :p
[13:18] <BluesKaj> think I'll have some breakfast
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> bon apetit BluesKaj
[13:21] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, thanks
[13:47] <HackerII> doh
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> add to favs :p
[13:47] <HackerII> got it
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> all ok mate?
[13:47] <HackerII> my little red queen
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> not sure where she cam from
[13:48] <HackerII> whos idea was that
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> no idea
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> just saw her yesterday
[13:48] <HackerII> so, howya doin these days
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> great
[13:48] <HackerII> same here
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> got my bq 4.5 ubuntu touch
[13:48] <HackerII> work good ?
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> and it rocknrolls :p
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:49] <HackerII> i want one, link me lemme see it
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> HackerII: your usa?
[13:49] <HackerII> is that the one that only goes 3g ?
[13:49] <HackerII> in usa
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> not sure bq works in usa
[13:50] <HackerII> i think its only 3g
[13:50] <HackerII> id still get one, how much you pay
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> im europe here
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> 173 euro with send costs
[13:50] <HackerII> whats that in dollars
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> HackerII: you can ask in #ubuntu-touch if bq works usa
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> HackerII: about the same
[13:51] <HackerII> under 200 dollars ?, tooo cheap
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> loool
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> its nice clean and small
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> a guy cant wear big phones in his pocket right
[13:51] <HackerII> is it fast enough, isnt that a 2g processor ?
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> HackerII: http://www.bq.com/gb/aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu-edition
[13:52] <HackerII> soon as it comes here ill get one 4 sure
[13:52] <HackerII> looks
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> there's the E5 also
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> but i dont need hd
[13:54] <HackerII> so, you have a full fledged ubuntu on that ?
[13:54] <HackerII> tooo coool
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:55] <HackerII> Operating system Ubuntu
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> i got tablet nexus7 with touch also
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> free updates
[13:55] <HackerII> im beta testing the new kodi today, gonna install it on a xtra space, i have the g-box which is nifty
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> cool
[13:56] <HackerII> man, i hevent got anything but a generic cell px, waiting for the ubuntu px here
[13:56] <HackerII> i (will) spend the money
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:57] <HackerII> srsly, how do you like it
[13:57] <HackerII> doesnt it have external graphics output ?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> very like ubuntu touch
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> no
[13:58] <HackerII> huh, i thought you could hook a monitor to it
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> that convergence mode is something they still work on
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> and not sure bq 4.5 will be able to
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> ask in #ubuntu-touch for more details
[13:59] <HackerII> ok
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> think meizu will be able
[14:00] <HackerII> most likely
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> but as i dislike android so much
[14:00] <HackerII> being able to hook a monitor and keyboard/mouse would make that thing flyoff the shelves
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> im soo happy with touch phone :p
[14:00] <HackerII> i dont trust any of those guys, only ubuntu
[14:01] <HackerII> proven
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> another wish on my list would be terminal apps install on the phone
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> now its locked for safety
[14:01] <HackerII> i wish they would hurry up
[14:01] <HackerII> cant unlock it ?
[14:01] <HackerII> is it rootable ?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> you can, but you cant receive updates then
[14:02] <HackerII> ah
[14:02] <HackerII> ic
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> and i want the new updates :p
[14:02] <HackerII> ya
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> for the 170 euro im very satisfyed
[14:03] <HackerII> id be too, not bad price at all
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> i dont wanna pay 4g neither
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> only wifi at places
[14:03] <HackerII> i just hope the nsa dont demand back doors like thay did microshaft
[14:03] <OerHeks> No java, great phone
[14:04] <OerHeks> No Dalvik either, so no lawsuites :-D
[14:04] <HackerII> lol
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:04] <OerHeks> meizu mx4 is sold out, maybe mx5 is comming ..
[14:05] <HackerII> you kno it
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> and other brands will join the circus too
[14:05] <HackerII> yep
[14:05] <OerHeks> One plus One is nearly usable.
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> power to opensource!
[14:05] <HackerII> ive been w ubuntu from the start, they have proven trust by me
[14:06] <HackerII> got customers, back when done, good day folks
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> add to favs :p
[14:07] <HackerII> done
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: good afternoon mate
[14:35] <cfhowlett> heyheyhey lotuspsychje
[14:36] <OerHeks> hi-di-hi cfhowlett
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> hi EriC^^
[14:43] <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-15-10-is-shipping-with-linux-kernel-4-2-494357.shtml
[16:20] <HackerII> idk the validity to this.
[16:20] <HackerII> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=220543
[16:59] <daftykins> o/
[16:59] <daftykins> it would appear i was banned again in my absence
[17:00] <EriC^^> daftykins: o/
[17:00] <daftykins> just got back from England :)
[17:00] <EriC^^> cool, had fun?
[17:01] <daftykins> yeah good stuff thanks :) saw my friends little 14 month old son - and fixed up all their computers :)
[17:01] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[17:01] <daftykins> heya \o
[17:01] <EriC^^> cool
[17:01] <EriC^^> hi pauljw
[17:02] <pauljw> how's everyone today?
[17:02] <daftykins> in good spirits here thanks :) yourself?
[17:02] <pauljw> same  :)
[17:02] <EriC^^> im good thanks
[17:03] <pauljw> :)
[17:03] <pauljw> that's a good trick to get banned while not even here daftykins
[17:04] <EriC^^> maybe it was your cat O.o
[17:04] <daftykins> :D
[17:04] <EriC^^> like the guy who's cat kept deleting his home dir or something
[17:04] <pauljw> heheh
[17:04] <daftykins> well an op i know unbanned me on the day i left, then i think the one i offended must've put it back
[17:04] <EriC^^> ( i watched my cat for a few days to see what buttons it was pressing ..) remember? :D >.<
[17:04] <daftykins> EriC^^: haha i remember that guy :D
[17:05] <lotuspsychje_> good evening pauljw and daftykins
[17:06] <daftykins> hey hey!
[17:06] <pauljw> oh the world and its sensitivities...
[17:06] <daftykins> lotuspsychje_: you'd be proud, i had a friend buy a samsung 850 EVO whilst i was away ;)
[17:06] <pauljw> hey lotuspsychje_
[17:07] <lotuspsychje_> nice daftykins
[17:07] <lotuspsychje_> daftykins: and he installed linux on it?
[17:07] <daftykins> then i put the old 60GB OCZ he had into his wifes old 1.4GHz 1GB RAM Advent laptop - with xubuntu :)
[17:08] <lotuspsychje_> cool
[17:08] <lotuspsychje_> ssd always benfits :p
[17:08] <daftykins> definitely
[17:08] <lotuspsychje_> still got that old transcend 8gig slc
[17:08] <daftykins> from a netbook or some such?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje_> running trusty 64bit rocketfast
[17:09] <lotuspsychje_> no got a desktop running on it
[17:09] <lotuspsychje_> and 1TB data mechanical drives
[17:09] <lotuspsychje_> daftykins: bought it spare, back in the ssd expensive days
[17:09] <lotuspsychje_> payed like 100 euro for it
[17:10] <daftykins> :)
[17:14] <lotuspsychje_> !isitoutyet
[17:14] <ubot5`> Not yet!
[17:15] <OerHeks> Why, ubot5`, why?
[17:15] <OerHeks> wily is slower than vivid, i like that.
[17:16] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[17:16] <lotuspsychje_> give us the rushhhh
[17:16] <OerHeks> or phoronics should dust the fans
[17:18] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[17:18] <daftykins> is it really slower? or you just mean slower to be released? :)
[17:19] <OerHeks> He did a benchmark, most points it is slower, but will we notice that?
[17:19] <OerHeks> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-15-Benchmarks
[17:20] <daftykins> that's a really strange specification system to test on
[17:20] <daftykins> more of a workstation than a common desktop
[17:21] <OerHeks> i think he is using a wireless mouse, that can slow down milliseconds too
[17:21] <daftykins> XD
[17:21] <OerHeks> *hips*
[17:22] <lotuspsychje_> ah well, at least we will have 4.2 kernel and new scrollbars lol
[17:23] <daftykins> and roll on January 31st to make 15.04 go EOL, so there're only 3 releases left standing :)
[17:23] <daftykins> 12.04, 14.04 and 15.10 then right?
[17:24] <lordievader> !precise
[17:24] <ubot5`> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is a currently-supported !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1204
[17:24] <lordievader> Hmpf, why don't you list the support period...
[17:24] <daftykins> April 2017 i figure
[17:24] <daftykins> 5 year LTS?
[17:24] <lordievader> Makes sense ;)
[17:25] <daftykins> now all i need do is get unbanned so i can actually help ;)
[17:25] <daftykins> although i might actually get a new job so i can keep busier for the Christmas period
[17:25] <lordievader> daftykins: You got banned from #ubuntu? What for?
[17:25] <lordievader> Telling an idiot he is an idiot?
[17:25] <daftykins> i was a bit rude to an op
[17:25] <lotuspsychje_> wich1
[17:25] <daftykins> after a long shift i didn't appreciate being told the rules :)
[17:26] <daftykins> might be better for my case if i don't name, i'm afraid!
[17:26] <lordievader> Agreed.
[17:26] <lotuspsychje_> | grep logs :p
[17:26] <daftykins> :D
[17:27] <daftykins> grep for me and f***
[17:27] <lotuspsychje_> hahaha
[17:27] <lotuspsychje_> at least all the friendly volunteers are here :p
[17:28] <daftykins> ;_;
[17:28] <daftykins> i'm friendly!
[17:28] <lotuspsychje_> of course, thats why i invited you here
[17:29] <daftykins> oh i get what you meant now, my mistake
[17:29] <lotuspsychje_> :p
[17:29] <lotuspsychje_> mocking is not my style dont worry
[17:30] <daftykins> :D
[17:30] <pauljw> :)
[17:30] <lordievader> Ahh, too bad :(
[17:30] <lordievader> :P
[17:30] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[17:31] <lotuspsychje_> !info macchanger | daftykins and come as d4ftykins :p
[17:31] <ubot5`> daftykins and come as d4ftykins :p: macchanger (source: macchanger): utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.0-5.3 (vivid), package size 186 kB, installed size 677 kB (Only available for linux-any)
[17:32] <lordievader> lotuspsychje_: Why would he change his mac?
[17:32] <daftykins> haha, i think i'm only banned by my cloak
[17:32] <lotuspsychje_> ip/nick ban?
[17:32] <lotuspsychje_> ah ok
[17:32] <daftykins> or at least i was before i left on my trip
[17:33] <lordievader> Better to just ask the ops to unban you.
[17:33] <lotuspsychje_> im out, movienight with the misses
[17:33] <lotuspsychje_> see you next session guys
[17:33] <lordievader> Have fun
[17:33] <lotuspsychje_> tnx
[17:33] <pauljw> later
[17:33] <daftykins> take care o/
[17:33] <daftykins> yeah i wouldn't do deception, not worth the hassle
[17:34] <lordievader> You might just get a more severe ban.
[17:34] <daftykins> indeed
[18:36] <OerHeks> now you are welcome again, daftykins
[18:36] <pauljw> :)
[18:36] <OerHeks> F**** = Friend!
[18:36] <daftykins> 8D
[18:36] <pauljw> heheh
[18:37] <daftykins> all thanks to a kind soul :)
[18:37] <pauljw> you're a kind soul yourself and much more patient than I
[18:38] <daftykins> i have my moments ;)
[18:38] <OerHeks> If i could swim, i came over for meet & greet.
[18:38] <pauljw> :)
[18:40] <daftykins> that'd be neat actually, i do like to put faces to names with IRC folk
[18:40] <daftykins> as it was the friends i was visiting, i discussed my helping out in #ubuntu whilst i was doing the xubuntu reinstall
[18:41] <daftykins> they think it's really admirable work
[18:41] <OerHeks> i am sure you have seen this one before https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/DrabberEnIkOpPaard.JPG
[18:43] <pauljw> it is admirable, i'm in awe of some of the knowledge shared here.  irc itself is something that i never knew existed till i discovered linux and was taken with it almost as much as the os itself
[18:44] <daftykins> OerHeks: i don't think so! are you going to shock me and say you are the horse? ;)
[18:45] <OerHeks> Yes.
[18:45] <OerHeks> no, the girl ...
[18:45] <OerHeks> ehhh that guy on top of it, ofcourse :-D
[18:45] <daftykins> ^_^
[18:46] <daftykins> that's a cool dog
[18:46] <daftykins> kinda looks like a firefox (red panda) in the face :)
[18:47] <OerHeks> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/2015DrabberSStoer.JPG
[18:47] <OerHeks> Chihuahua, long hair version
[18:49] <daftykins> hehe, that is a proper Clint Eastwood pose :)
[18:50] <daftykins> i'm sure everyones seen mine, but here was me on my riding trip to Wales - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ogkekwst4h8b4dw/IMG_20150906_171157.jpg?dl=0
[18:51] <OerHeks> different bike .. or was that the rental ?
[18:51] <daftykins> good memory! just a friends one beside me from that angle :)
[18:53] <pauljw> brb...
[18:57] <OerHeks> Got a free bike last week, simular to this, blue with white fenders, 12 speed http://www.galaxybikes.com/1970s-peugeot-57cm-road-city-bike/ (same year)
[18:58] <wileee> nice, looks like a comfy ride
[18:58] <OerHeks> no rust, allways been inside, so the tyres are dried out.
[18:59] <pauljw> that's sweet
[18:59] <OerHeks> yes, the steering is like a limousine, for long rides.
[18:59] <wileee> that is worth a bit just as a historical bike.....somewhere
[19:00] <OerHeks> Allways handy to have a 2nd one, for friends on visit, or when one is broken.
[19:00] <OerHeks> I was actually looking for a lady bike, for a friend here in this appartmentblock.
[19:00] <OerHeks> never say npo to a free bike :-D
[19:00] <OerHeks> *no
[19:01] <wileee> yeah, I have a street mountain combo great for the street
[19:01] <OerHeks> *unless the lock is broken without key
[19:01] <wileee> heh, would steal either, funny shows with people getting trapped doing it.
[19:02] <wileee> would not*
[19:02] <OerHeks> No need to steal, really, all i need will get on my path, but not all on my path is good for me.
[19:03] <wileee> heh, you to
[19:05] <daftykins> bike looks good :)
[19:06] <daftykins> whilst away my friend told me his was stolen from a train station up there :(
[19:06] <wileee> saw this lately, did not know and I live here, kinda funny, very portlandia, http://laughingsquid.com/the-pedal-powered-talk-show-a-portland-oregon-talk-show-recorded-from-a-desk-mounted-to-a-cargo-bike/
[19:07] <OerHeks> awesome, wilee, i would like to do that too :-D
[19:08] <daftykins> that looks like good fun!
[19:09] <wileee> I've only seen bits of portlandia, I don't have cable, but saw them filming next to my daily starbucks hang, some other horror show is filmed here as well.
[19:11] <daftykins> i keep hearing the line that "the 90s are alive in Portland" but don't know much else about it :)
[19:14] <wileee> It is a funny place to be, no idea what it's like elsewhere, a good chuckle by the minute from the persona's worn and acted out by many.
[19:15] <wileee> everybody has a funky dad's hat lol
[19:17] <wileee> very popular donut place here, very close I don't go, I might not leave. http://voodoodoughnut.com/
[19:26] <daftykins> i found it very odd at the weekend when i installed xubuntu on an empty drive, that it set the GRUB timeout to 10
[19:27] <daftykins> well, perhaps it always is - but i was surprised it actually did make me wait
[19:27] <wileee> first thing I change generally
[19:28] <daftykins> i only expect to see it displayed on a failed boot
[19:30] <wileee> heh, makes sense I have been multi booting for so long
[19:43] <OerHeks> It is getting colder, people start using the pc again .. lots of EOL nerds
[19:43] <wileee> and their mad now
[19:44] <OerHeks> Some of them will return to Vista :-D
[19:44] <OerHeks> oh, that is EOL too
[19:45] <OerHeks> hi mcphail
[19:45] <mcphail> Hi OerHeks
[19:45] <mcphail> Does anyone think it would be reasonable to tweak the installer to support bcache?
[19:46] <mcphail> If a bcache'd filesystem is detected, bcache tools shopuld be installed so the install will boot
[19:47] <mcphail> Without bcache-tools, the filesystem isn't recognised at boot
[19:48] <OerHeks> That would be nice, just read about bcache
[19:48] <mcphail> OerHeks: it (seems_ to work well. But currently requires a chroot into the install to add the bcache-tools package before reboot. Messy
[19:49] <mcphail> (and the cause for a bit of my hair loss last night)
[19:52] <OerHeks> I think one needs live mode first, to prepare bcache
[19:52] <OerHeks> not possible on a server install though
[19:53] <mcphail> OerHeks: you can do a server install, but you'd need to use debootstrap. There's a neat Ubuntu server guide somewhere
[19:53] <daftykins> OerHeks: ah that's a good point as to why we're seeing those utopic users, indeed
[19:54] <mcphail> OerHeks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/InstallOnBcache
[19:55] <OerHeks> oh, i was looking @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Bcache
[19:55] <OerHeks> nice
[20:04] <mcphail> I suspect there must be a way for the installer to check for /dev/bcache* and add the tools. Alternatively, they could be added to the base install by default (as the package is only 18.6kb)
[20:11] <OerHeks> cat /sys/block/bcache0/bcache/state  The output can be: no cache / clean / dirty / inconsistent
[20:12] <OerHeks> * afer adding the tools, i presume
[20:13] <mcphail> I think you need to have set up a bcache device (and add the tools) before that /sys tree is populated
[20:13] <OerHeks> ehm .. good point
[20:14] <OerHeks> is Bcache better than DM-cache?
[20:14] <mcphail> It fits in my brain better :)
[20:15] <mcphail> I think the intent is similar
[20:16] <OerHeks> interesting, i like to try it myself. i have a spare 60 gb ssd and a 4 gb duocore.
[20:17] <OerHeks> maybe 2 x320 gb sata2 too for raid
[20:18] <mcphail> certainly worth a try on a spare machine. I'm using it for an experiment wily install. No problems yet, but have only been using it for 24h ;)
[20:19] <OerHeks> both can handle udev?
[20:21] <mcphail> in what way?
[20:22] <mcphail> bcache-tools sets up the udev rules, if that's what you mean?
[20:23] <mcphail> (That's why I'd propose adding it to the installer...)
[20:52] <daftykins> wow even more utopic question askers
[20:52] <daftykins> how do these people not notice they're running EOL 'til now? XD
[20:54] <mcphail> Probably never press the "update" button during the supported period, anyway
[20:55] <daftykins> could well be
[20:56] <EriC^^> when i first wanted to download ubuntu i downloaded a non lts, if you dont know about package managers and linux and stuff long term support is like a chinese term or something
[20:56] <daftykins> very true
[20:56] <EriC^^> i remember thinking what's this sudo thing every where
[20:57] <daftykins> though i think i was lucky and spotted both the terms on the download page that first time - and checked what it meant
[20:57] <mcphail> Ha - I have a debian squeeze box which I have to hand-compile all security updates, so I can't criticise
[20:58] <OerHeks> I joined the irc right away, when switching from Fedora to Ubuntu.
[20:58] <OerHeks> But ubuntu-nl is pretty dead.
[21:00] <mcphail> Is Seveas in ubuntu-nl? I think he taught me everything I now know when I joined the #ubuntu irc
[21:03] <mcphail> I often wonder how #ubuntu can get that same atmosphere of help and support again. I suppose having 20 people each day asking the same questions about EOL ditros and over-full /boot partitions doesn't help
[21:04] <OerHeks> Nope, he is doing nothing lately, according to his wikipage
[21:04] <OerHeks> I miss ikonia, actionparsnip and such
[21:06] <mcphail> The #ubuntu-touch community is very nice, and is like a (smaller) version of #ubuntu in its prime
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> i'd like to see the installation of thermald (daemon) and indicator-cpufreq added to this page... where or how do I suggest it? ... https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/power-hotcomputer.html
[21:41] <daftykins> hmm, if you're logged in with single sign on - do any controls become visible to edit it?
[21:41] <daftykins> i'm not sure how the pages are handled tbh
[21:41] <daftykins> TJ-: hi sir \o
[21:42] <TJ-> Evening :)
[21:42] <daftykins> back from invading England, but i've got to retire early for a change to keep my good schedule and also work! :D
[21:43] <daftykins> nn all \o
[21:43] <TJ-> Setting a good example! I need to do that too
[21:43] <OerHeks> daftykins, i lost my yubikey, now i cannot login anymore, mail does not help :-(
[21:44] <OerHeks> no more replies to askubuntu, only ubuntu-nl forum is available
[21:44] <TJ-> OerHeks: you lost it?! no back-up?
[21:45] <OerHeks> it is a hardwarekey
[21:48] <TJ-> I mean back-up for the sites you use it on. If a site accepts Ubikey as a 2nd factor, they should always provide a method to disable the ubikey/2-factor in case it is broken/lost/stolen
[21:49] <OerHeks> TJ-, nope, all i can do is joining an irc channel ( dead) or mail .. done twice, no reaction :-( dunno what to do now
[21:49] <TJ-> OerHeks: I assume this is with one.ubuntu.com single-sign-on?
[21:49] <OerHeks> Yes
[21:51] <TJ-> Ahhh, and the policy there recommends using 2 or more 2FA device
[21:51] <OerHeks> ohh.. i tried now, and i can..
[21:52] <OerHeks> never got a reply they have resetted
[21:52] <OerHeks> \o/
[21:52] <OerHeks> mea culpa, for this non problem
[21:54] <TJ-> :D
[21:54] <TJ-> And set up a back-up device next time :)
[21:55] <OerHeks> Sure do!