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[09:59] <bluesabre> Unit193: https://plus.google.com/+WorldofGnomeOrg/posts/WmjGAEyi4Fo?pid=6204686090340725714&oid=112026213399155142823
[10:19] <knome> bluesabre, which of the work items are we actually still expecting to fix this cycle?
[10:27] <bluesabre> knome: marked the libreoffice item as postponed, the other is a bug report... we have fixed the issue in our configuration, but not the actual upstream issue
[10:28] <bluesabre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1462445
[10:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1462445 in Clutter "Gtk applications start with blank screen (Clutter 1.22.4 and GtkClutter 1.6.2)" [High,Confirmed]
[10:28] <bluesabre> which will probably not get fixed
[10:28] <knome> mhm
[13:45] <flocculant> ochosi: gvfs fix landed - not seen any recurrence of what I was seeing before at the moment
[16:09] <drc> Quick Question:  Has any one used (on a daily, long term basis) XFS instead of EXT2 with Xubuntu?
[16:09] <drc> ere EXT4
[16:10] <flocculant> I can answer now then :p - not me ;)
[16:11] <drc> A machine has XFS (from Salix)...think I try Xubuntu on it, shouldn't make a difference, but who really knows?
[16:12] <drc> thanks
[17:52] <drc> flocculant: Looks like whatever "they" did fixed the thunar/gvfs/copying crashes I was having.
[17:53] <flocculant> good - that's the 2 of us who'd seen things not seeing them :)
[19:01] <flocculant> ochosi bluesabre are we going to change the current parole to the one in staging? 
[19:02] <flocculant> there's a minor irritant in the default, lose menu bar - maximise - normal size has menubar again, fixed in staging
[20:20] <Unit193> I'd seen tumblerd and thunar ones.
[20:21] <flocculant> irritants? 
[20:22] <Unit193> Crashes, can't remember the bug numbers but linked to them at one point.
[20:22] <flocculant> oh right 
[20:22] <flocculant> well thunar crashes are few here now - or none in point of fact
[20:23] <flocculant> not seen a tumblerd one for quiet a while
[20:24] <knome> quite? :P
[20:25] <Unit193> The one is lp 1168558, no idea what for thunar.
[20:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1168558 in tumbler (Ubuntu) "tumblerd crashed with SIGSEGV in tumbler_thumbnailer_create()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1168558
[20:25] <flocculant> knome: nope - it's been quiet on that front :p
[20:25] <knome> :P
[20:33] <ochosi> evening all
[20:33] <knome> hello ochosi 
[20:33] <ochosi> flocculant: guess bluesabre would have to answer that...
[20:36] <flocculant> ochosi: I thought so - but hate to not include you too :)
[20:37] <ochosi> :)
[20:53] <drc> flocculant: Just out of curiosity, at what point would it be good to delete that xubuntu-dev ppa to get back to a normal system, before or after a 15.10 upgrade?
[20:54] <flocculant> nver thought about that tbh - I just add them and run with them :)
[20:54] <Unit193> If those are both equal options, I'd say before upgrade.
[20:55] <flocculant> yea
[20:55] <knome> they are disabled on upgrade anyway
[20:55] <flocculant> though by delete I'd ppa purge
[20:55] <knome> not update though..
[20:55] <Unit193> Exactly, flocculant.
[20:57] <flocculant> drc: not sure if you know, but install ppa-purge then sudo ppa-purge ppa:whatever-ppa-you-added - that will sort the source.list and downgrade properly what needs it
[20:57] <flocculant> which needs to be added to contribute/qa/ at some point if I remember 
[20:57] <Unit193> For a bonus, could check for orphaned files or debsums afterwards.
[21:01] <drc> flocculant: Yeah, I knew, was just imprecise in my wording...sorry
[21:01] <flocculant> that's ok - just wanted to be sure :)
[21:17] <flocculant> knome: ok so - if I've grabbed the xub docs then done all the build thing to that, how do I then push any changes back? 
[21:17] <flocculant> cos - it's all changed now after the build :)
[21:17] <knome> make clean
[21:17] <knome> bzr commit
[21:17] <knome> bzr push
[21:18] <flocculant> ty :D
[21:18] <knome> np
[21:34] <bluesabre> flocculant: oh, seems there's been some fixes since the last stable parole
[21:35] <bluesabre> we might get that for wily... :)
[21:37] <ochosi> hey bluesabre 
[21:38] <bluesabre> hey ochosi 
[21:38] <ochosi> pitty we don't overlap so much lately, time-wise
[21:39] <bluesabre> yeah, seems we've been endlessly busy/sleepy
[21:39] <knome> pitti? :P
[21:39] <Unit193> End of a cycle, so not much going on at this point.
[21:41] <bluesabre> just lots of writing ideally
[21:41] <bluesabre> working on release notes, motu app, etc over the next few days
[21:42] <Unit193> \o/
[21:42] <knome> nnniiiice
[21:42] <ochosi> nice
[21:43] <bluesabre> so much support
[21:43] <bluesabre> :D
[21:43] <ochosi> go bluesabre!
[21:43] <ochosi> :]
[21:44] <bluesabre> :D
[21:44] <bluesabre> fine, I'll go
[21:44] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbabl
[21:44] <ochosi> humm
[21:45] <ochosi> can any of you test something for me in wily?
[21:45] <ochosi> my vbox just ran out of space :'( and it'll take a bit for me to fix that or set up a new one
[21:45] <drc> go....(if I can I will)
[21:47] <ochosi> it's a really tiny one, just patch greybird like here: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/pull/107/files
[21:47] <ochosi> then you need to install one of these apps: gnome-clocks, gnome-weather, gnome-sudoku (that one should be installed)
[21:49] <drc> OK, how would I patch it when I don't have the greybird source?
[21:49] <ochosi> i havent seen any of those CSD subtitles yet
[21:49] <ochosi> greybird is plaintext ;) just edit /usr/share/themes/Greybird/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css
[21:50] <drc> I can do that.  wait...out.
[21:50]  * ochosi waits...out.
[21:50]  * drc forgot it was a binary :)
[21:50] <drc> s/was/wasn't./
[21:54] <drc> ok, patched and gnome-sudoku is installed...what now?
[21:55] <ochosi> run it and show me a screener of it
[21:55] <ochosi> basically we'd need a before/after comparison
[21:56] <ochosi> so you can first show me a screener of what it is now, then run "sudo apt-get install greybird-gtk-theme--reinstall" to see the previous/wily state
[21:58] <drc> huh, imagebin now requires a login, any other place you wat it put?
[21:59] <Unit193> imgur.
[21:59] <Unit193> xfce4-screenshooter supports it even.
[21:59] <knome> or email..
[21:59] <Unit193> dcc, ochosi likes the dcc.
[22:00] <knome> likes, but what he really LOVES is telnet
[22:00] <drc> https://i.imgur.com/XH7yCjo.png
[22:00] <Unit193> In fact, just paste the base64 here! :P
[22:00] <knome> here === /q Unit193 
[22:00] <Unit193> Erm, I'll go back to that rock I was hiding under.
[22:02] <drc> ochosi: I noticed that the screen was overlapped, you need another one?
[22:09] <ochosi> that looks weird
[22:10] <ochosi> anyway, there's no subtitle in the CSD, so this didnt help unfortunately..
[22:10] <knome> well it's greybird-DRC
[22:12] <ochosi> drc: if you can, please install gnome-weather or gnome-clocks to see if they have subtitles
[22:12] <drc> Hey, I resemble that remark!
[22:12] <drc> sure
[22:15] <drc> ochosi: https://i.imgur.com/XiZxZkO.png
[22:16] <ochosi> sorry, i have no idea why that looks so messed up
[22:16] <ochosi> what did you do to our lovely theme..?
[22:16] <drc> muhahaha!
[22:16]  * ochosi fears he'll have trouble sleeping
[22:17] <ochosi> anyway, thanks for trying
[22:17] <drc> I turn off compositor, could that be it?
[22:17] <ochosi> nah, the dark background in the window title bar is what's bothering me
[22:18] <drc> The only other thing I can think off is an nvidia driver.
[22:21] <ochosi> right
[22:21] <ochosi> i guess in that case dont worry, i'll figure it out when i figure it out ;)
[22:21] <drc> Sleep tight :)
[22:21] <ochosi> and you go and reinstall greybird to get rid of that hideous hideous "thing"
[22:21] <ochosi> thanks, night everyone
[22:22] <knome> nighty ochosi 
[22:22] <drc> Actually, as knome saw, I copied it to ~/themes and just went back to the normal greybird