/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/10/13/#kubuntu-devel.txt

shadeslayerRiddell: sonic sunglasses were stupid anyway00:30
shadeslayerscrewdriver was being used as a magic wand00:30
shadeslayer( as is the TARDIS these days IMHO )00:30
lordievaderGood morning07:03
soeehiho07:17
lordievadero/07:26
BluesKajHiyas all11:55
Riddellclivejo: kdevelop has a new version if you're up for some packaging15:11
Riddellsanta_: about?15:26
santa_Riddell: yep, whats up?15:30
Riddellsanta_: trying your script I get https://paste.kde.org/pvocve2ar15:30
Riddelletc etc15:30
Riddellwhat's missing?15:31
santa_let me see...15:32
santa_Riddell: so ... do you have the bluedevil git repository cloned in bluedevil?15:33
Riddellsanta_: well no15:33
Riddellshould I?15:33
santa_Riddell: yep its meant to be executed in the directory where you have the git repos, because it needs to inspect the control files and changelogs15:35
Riddellsanta_: so next question, did you write the script to download all the repos? :)15:35
santa_Riddell: however we could change that and pass the directory of all the git repos being the default inspecting pwd15:35
santa_Riddell: regarding the git-clone-all I have one for siduction but I would like to tweak it a bit before sending it15:36
santa_at the same time we could make it suitable for siduction/neon not just kubuntu15:37
Riddellright, that would be good15:39
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XilmI'm testing out 15.10Beta2 and need a few hints on how to navigate for information on the website. How do I learn more about Radeon video support?17:36
XilmHow big is the development community behind Ubuntu?17:44
soeewhos working on new apps ?17:45
sgclarkXilm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD17:46
sgclarkno clue on size of development community17:46
sgclarksoee: I am , help welcome17:47
soeesgclark: oh sure but i do not know how to fix thigs :D i can test only atm.17:47
sgclarkshould be good to test, one sec17:48
soeekdepim problems i'v seen on report page17:48
XilmI wanted to test out one of the closed source Radeon drivers and Kubuntu isn't fully booting back up. I'm a little surprised that 15.10 will be released later this month.17:48
soeeXilm: there are also huge problems with propriety nvidia drivers and prime :)17:49
soeeso you are not alone..17:49
XilmNvidia worked great on my Kubuntu 14.04 installation.17:50
sgclarksddm seems to be a problem with proprietary. Not something I can fix heh. There are bug reports though?17:50
yofelthere is, and it's not only SDDM, so something further down in the stack17:51
sgclark14.04 is completely differrent architecture17:51
soeesgclark: 3 packages fail to build from new apps17:51
XilmThe link you gave looks good so far. The Ubuntu websites are always a little hard to navigate.17:51
sgclarkok not ready then, will get to it when i can17:51
XilmI also find it strange that there is a library conflict with Steam that has persisted. There are webpages dedicated to resolving the problem.17:53
sgclarkSteam is not something Kubuntu would package, Ubuntu core maybe? no clue really17:54
XilmI'm in this chat because I use the Kubuntu variant. I know the libraries belong to Ubuntu. There's a conflict with the libraries Steam provides and the 15.xx install.17:55
sgclarkok my apologies, I cannot help there though.17:57
sgclarksoee: seems I forgot to upload my last pim build. 17:57
sgclarktwo more to fix, will get to it shortly17:58
XilmI think it's really more Steam's fault but they should never release a primetime product that fails to install.17:58
mustafamHi, I am testing beta 2, have some problems18:02
mustafamFirst, After reaching the login screen, the keyboard is not responsive, after few seconds, I can write18:03
soeesgclark: cool\18:03
mustafamIs this a known bug?18:03
soeenot that i know of18:03
mustafamSecond: I think this bug is important, it prevents any user with only DSL/PPPoE from connecting, and we approach release:18:04
mustafamhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/144668918:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1446689 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager configured to use /usr/sbin/pppoe but does not recommend pppoe" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:04
XilmIf Kubuntu can still boot to single (or multi) mode, I should be able to follow the instructions on that link. Thanks sgclark!18:05
soeeoh, nvidia 358.09 has been released18:06
soeesgclark: 2 packages fail now20:33
sgclarkI am fully aware, busy with outside kubuntu stuff right now. I will have it done today though.20:34
soeesgclark: ok so i'll test them tomorrow as its getting late here20:35
sgclarkok sorry, really need more packagers.20:36
soeeyup20:37
XilmTrying rlgrx has gone terrible for me. Is there a fail safe to start Xorg?20:37
XilmMy computer is hanging on boot because of trying rlgrx.20:38
XilmI've followed the page giving recommendations on purging flgrx.20:40
soeei do not know what it is so no help from my side20:41
soeebut you shoudl try on #ubuntu maybe20:41
soeethis is Kubuntu dev channel not support :)20:41
XilmI'm using 15.10Beta2 so I can't bother the regular channel. It's the little helper util that switches to the proprietary driver that got me in trouble!20:42
sgclarkvideo drivers are a beast, unfortunately that is a much lower layer than what the devs here work on in most cases we will not be able to help here. and yeah this is not a support channel20:42
sgclarkhelper util?20:42
sgclarkno idea what that is20:42
soeemaybe somethind related to ati/radeon20:43
soeei never had any of those20:43
XilmKubuntu 15.10 has a little bluish icon that recommends trying the proprietary Radeon driver.20:43
sgclarkI had one once and never could boot into anything including windows so dunno20:43
soee:D20:43
soeebut well .. now with nvidia i can't boot either :D20:44
sgclarkkubuntu-driver-manager I think , who is in charge of that? Riddell? yofel?20:44
XilmEverything should work when 15.10 is released?20:44
sgclarkgosh I would hope so. but as I say video drivers are out of our hands. I will look into who is in charge of that driver manager though...20:45
XilmI'm chasing after testing 15.10Beta to see how some games work in the mean time before the full release.20:46
XilmI see better hardware support than 15.04 for my on board audio. When does Beta3 come out?20:47
soeeXilm: there wont be next beta20:47
soeehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule20:48
XilmKDE is based on QT 4 when QT 5 is out?21:04
sgclarknope, plasam5 is qt521:05
XilmPlasma is the desktop manager?21:06
sgclarkyes21:06
sgclarkthere are still a few lingering apps that need porting, most of kde is qt5 now21:07
XilmThe major version of KDE is 4?21:07
sgclarkI am not entirely an expert on the subject, but I believe they are moving away from KDE versions and instead version kf5, plasma, applications etc. AKA there will never be a KDE5, but instead the different product sets. Anyone feel free to make sense.21:12
clivejosounds right to me21:15
clivejoPlasma is currently 5.421:17
clivejomostly ported to QT521:17
yofelplasma and frameworks are 100% QT5, applications are a mix21:26
yofelsgclark: that was originally written by shadeslaye_r I believe, no idea who maintains it right now21:27
yofelbut I think the problem is the driver, not the driver manager21:27
sgclarkyeah that is my guess too21:28

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