[00:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sonic sunglasses were stupid anyway
[00:30] <shadeslayer> screwdriver was being used as a magic wand
[00:30] <shadeslayer> ( as is the TARDIS these days IMHO )
[07:03] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:17] <soee> hiho
[07:26] <lordievader> o/
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:11] <Riddell> clivejo: kdevelop has a new version if you're up for some packaging
[15:26] <Riddell> santa_: about?
[15:30] <santa_> Riddell: yep, whats up?
[15:30] <Riddell> santa_: trying your script I get https://paste.kde.org/pvocve2ar
[15:30] <Riddell> etc etc
[15:31] <Riddell> what's missing?
[15:32] <santa_> let me see...
[15:33] <santa_> Riddell: so ... do you have the bluedevil git repository cloned in bluedevil?
[15:33] <Riddell> santa_: well no
[15:33] <Riddell> should I?
[15:35] <santa_> Riddell: yep its meant to be executed in the directory where you have the git repos, because it needs to inspect the control files and changelogs
[15:35] <Riddell> santa_: so next question, did you write the script to download all the repos? :)
[15:35] <santa_> Riddell: however we could change that and pass the directory of all the git repos being the default inspecting pwd
[15:36] <santa_> Riddell: regarding the git-clone-all I have one for siduction but I would like to tweak it a bit before sending it
[15:37] <santa_> at the same time we could make it suitable for siduction/neon not just kubuntu
[15:39] <Riddell> right, that would be good
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[17:36] <Xilm> I'm testing out 15.10Beta2 and need a few hints on how to navigate for information on the website. How do I learn more about Radeon video support?
[17:44] <Xilm> How big is the development community behind Ubuntu?
[17:45] <soee> whos working on new apps ?
[17:46] <sgclark> Xilm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[17:46] <sgclark> no clue on size of development community
[17:47] <sgclark> soee: I am , help welcome
[17:47] <soee> sgclark: oh sure but i do not know how to fix thigs :D i can test only atm.
[17:48] <sgclark> should be good to test, one sec
[17:48] <soee> kdepim problems i'v seen on report page
[17:48] <Xilm> I wanted to test out one of the closed source Radeon drivers and Kubuntu isn't fully booting back up. I'm a little surprised that 15.10 will be released later this month.
[17:49] <soee> Xilm: there are also huge problems with propriety nvidia drivers and prime :)
[17:49] <soee> so you are not alone..
[17:50] <Xilm> Nvidia worked great on my Kubuntu 14.04 installation.
[17:50] <sgclark> sddm seems to be a problem with proprietary. Not something I can fix heh. There are bug reports though?
[17:51] <yofel> there is, and it's not only SDDM, so something further down in the stack
[17:51] <sgclark> 14.04 is completely differrent architecture
[17:51] <soee> sgclark: 3 packages fail to build from new apps
[17:51] <Xilm> The link you gave looks good so far. The Ubuntu websites are always a little hard to navigate.
[17:51] <sgclark> ok not ready then, will get to it when i can
[17:53] <Xilm> I also find it strange that there is a library conflict with Steam that has persisted. There are webpages dedicated to resolving the problem.
[17:54] <sgclark> Steam is not something Kubuntu would package, Ubuntu core maybe? no clue really
[17:55] <Xilm> I'm in this chat because I use the Kubuntu variant. I know the libraries belong to Ubuntu. There's a conflict with the libraries Steam provides and the 15.xx install.
[17:57] <sgclark> ok my apologies, I cannot help there though.
[17:57] <sgclark> soee: seems I forgot to upload my last pim build. 
[17:58] <sgclark> two more to fix, will get to it shortly
[17:58] <Xilm> I think it's really more Steam's fault but they should never release a primetime product that fails to install.
[18:02] <mustafam> Hi, I am testing beta 2, have some problems
[18:03] <mustafam> First, After reaching the login screen, the keyboard is not responsive, after few seconds, I can write
[18:03] <soee> sgclark: cool\
[18:03] <mustafam> Is this a known bug?
[18:03] <soee> not that i know of
[18:04] <mustafam> Second: I think this bug is important, it prevents any user with only DSL/PPPoE from connecting, and we approach release:
[18:04] <mustafam> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1446689
[18:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1446689 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager configured to use /usr/sbin/pppoe but does not recommend pppoe" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:05] <Xilm> If Kubuntu can still boot to single (or multi) mode, I should be able to follow the instructions on that link. Thanks sgclark!
[18:06] <soee> oh, nvidia 358.09 has been released
[20:33] <soee> sgclark: 2 packages fail now
[20:34] <sgclark> I am fully aware, busy with outside kubuntu stuff right now. I will have it done today though.
[20:35] <soee> sgclark: ok so i'll test them tomorrow as its getting late here
[20:36] <sgclark> ok sorry, really need more packagers.
[20:37] <soee> yup
[20:37] <Xilm> Trying rlgrx has gone terrible for me. Is there a fail safe to start Xorg?
[20:38] <Xilm> My computer is hanging on boot because of trying rlgrx.
[20:40] <Xilm> I've followed the page giving recommendations on purging flgrx.
[20:41] <soee> i do not know what it is so no help from my side
[20:41] <soee> but you shoudl try on #ubuntu maybe
[20:41] <soee> this is Kubuntu dev channel not support :)
[20:42] <Xilm> I'm using 15.10Beta2 so I can't bother the regular channel. It's the little helper util that switches to the proprietary driver that got me in trouble!
[20:42] <sgclark> video drivers are a beast, unfortunately that is a much lower layer than what the devs here work on in most cases we will not be able to help here. and yeah this is not a support channel
[20:42] <sgclark> helper util?
[20:42] <sgclark> no idea what that is
[20:43] <soee> maybe somethind related to ati/radeon
[20:43] <soee> i never had any of those
[20:43] <Xilm> Kubuntu 15.10 has a little bluish icon that recommends trying the proprietary Radeon driver.
[20:43] <sgclark> I had one once and never could boot into anything including windows so dunno
[20:43] <soee> :D
[20:44] <soee> but well .. now with nvidia i can't boot either :D
[20:44] <sgclark> kubuntu-driver-manager I think , who is in charge of that? Riddell? yofel?
[20:44] <Xilm> Everything should work when 15.10 is released?
[20:45] <sgclark> gosh I would hope so. but as I say video drivers are out of our hands. I will look into who is in charge of that driver manager though...
[20:46] <Xilm> I'm chasing after testing 15.10Beta to see how some games work in the mean time before the full release.
[20:47] <Xilm> I see better hardware support than 15.04 for my on board audio. When does Beta3 come out?
[20:47] <soee> Xilm: there wont be next beta
[20:48] <soee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
[21:04] <Xilm> KDE is based on QT 4 when QT 5 is out?
[21:05] <sgclark> nope, plasam5 is qt5
[21:06] <Xilm> Plasma is the desktop manager?
[21:06] <sgclark> yes
[21:07] <sgclark> there are still a few lingering apps that need porting, most of kde is qt5 now
[21:07] <Xilm> The major version of KDE is 4?
[21:12] <sgclark> I am not entirely an expert on the subject, but I believe they are moving away from KDE versions and instead version kf5, plasma, applications etc. AKA there will never be a KDE5, but instead the different product sets. Anyone feel free to make sense.
[21:15] <clivejo> sounds right to me
[21:17] <clivejo> Plasma is currently 5.4
[21:17] <clivejo> mostly ported to QT5
[21:26] <yofel> plasma and frameworks are 100% QT5, applications are a mix
[21:27] <yofel> sgclark: that was originally written by shadeslaye_r I believe, no idea who maintains it right now
[21:27] <yofel> but I think the problem is the driver, not the driver manager
[21:28] <sgclark> yeah that is my guess too