[02:25] <micah__> hey there, i'm having trouble with bitwig on 15.10
[02:25] <micah__> three finger gestures are eating three finger touches in both gnome and unity
[02:25] <micah__> this wasn't happening in 14.04
[02:35] <jnxd> I recently cloned from the Music app respository, imported it in the sdk, and hit crtl+R. it went alright, but where's the convergence?
[02:37] <jnxd> I mean, it behaves just like it does in my phone, regardless of what shape or size the window is in
[06:36] <dholbach> good morning
[06:58] <svij> morning dholbach
[07:04] <dholbach> hi svij
[08:09] <zzarr> hello! is there a way to record incoming calls?
[08:46] <jgdx> zzarr, not out of the box, as it is illegal in some countries
[08:47] <jgdx> e.g. mine
[08:47] <jgdx> or, legally ambiguous rather
[08:53] <zzarr> okey, in my country namely Sweden it is legal and it is because of telemarketing companies that bluffs that I want to be able to replay a call (of course I don't answer most unknown numbers, but it's to easy to make a mistake)
[08:54] <zbenjamin> tedg: ping, i need a process to change its cgroups, is there any API i could  use?
[08:54] <zbenjamin> tedg: unconfined process
[08:55] <zbenjamin> tedg: its about applauncherd, we need the app process to be in the correct cgroups so the app lifecycle works
[08:57] <zzarr> what the telemarketing company do is they call and say that the person answering has used there service for a year even though they haven't and then they send a bill and if one wants to fight a bill one needs the uncut call
[08:57] <jgdx> zzarr, maybe ping tiagosh or boiko when they come on later.
[08:57] <zzarr> okey, thanks
[08:58] <zzarr> by the way, why isn't it legal in your country?
[08:58] <jgdx> zzarr, an email to the ubuntu touch mailing list could also help out others in similar situations.
[08:58] <zzarr> do you have an address=
[08:58] <zzarr> ? -=
[09:01] <jgdx> zzarr, ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
[09:01] <zzarr> thank you
[09:02] <zzarr> I'll send them a message
[09:02] <jgdx> zzarr, legally ambiguous. I corrected myself. You can't really record someone without their knowledge.
[09:03] <zzarr> that's the same in Sweden, but if you tell them that you are recording there's no problem
[09:05] <zzarr> I really hop I don't have to fight a company like that, but one can't be to cautious
[09:06] <ogra_> zzarr, it is definitely possible but definitely also not implemented in any way yet
[09:08] <zzarr> okey ogra_, is it possible to write a script that does it or must I wait for an implementation in app-armor and write an application myself?
[09:09] <ogra_> i doubt it is wired up in any way currently ... but i'm not a telephony expert
[09:12] <crusty_> Hi
[09:12] <zzarr> what are you doing here if you're not an telephony expert ogra_ :P just kidding
[09:13] <ogra_> zzarr, maintaining my legacy :)
[09:13]  * ogra_ doesnt even work on the phone anymore 
[09:18] <zzarr> okey, ogra_ but you answered me ;)
[09:19] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Ada Lovelace Day! 😃
[09:20] <zzarr> I wonder, I have looked at some of Canonicals Google meetings that are on Youtube, is there a way to tell what person in the meeting is what nickname here (if indeed any)
[09:21] <ogra_> we usually turn on the name tags in public hangouts
[09:22] <crusty_> I bricked my meizu yesterday, during an upgrade, dpkg failed and now it's on a bootloop. I started fastboot and set a ubuntu-device-flash but it finish with "Failed to enter Recovery" but my phone enter on recovery mode. So i'm stuck"
[09:22] <zzarr> okey, that's nice, how do I know when a meeting goes live?
[09:24] <zzarr> crusty_, have you installed the recovery image?
[09:26] <crusty_> i put my phone on fastboot mode, launch "ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --bootstrap" and it turn on recovery mode i think
[09:29] <crusty_> the recovery image is not yet installed?
[09:39] <crusty_> zzarr, any idea to help me? thanks
[09:40] <zzarr> crusty_, I have "bricked" my phone and got it running again, I just followed the guide how to flash my phone,
[09:42] <crusty_> zzarr, it's the first think i did but it's not work
[09:43] <zzarr> okey, I "bricked" my phone by trying to be smart and move "/usr" to another partition
[09:44] <zzarr> but I followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/ubuntu-touch/development/how-to-flash-meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-t3151601 and got it working again
[09:46] <zzarr> here's the official guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/645652/how-to-flash-meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-with-another-channel
[09:47] <zzarr> crusty_, "http://askubuntu.com/questions/645652/how-to-flash-meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-with-another-channel", "http://askubuntu.com/questions/645652/how-to-flash-meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-with-another-channel", "http://askubuntu.com/questions/645652/how-to-flash-meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-with-another-channel"
[09:48] <zzarr> crusty_, I'll have some food now, good luck, I'll be back later
[09:49] <crusty_> thanks
[09:52] <ogra_> uh
[09:52] <ogra_> you really dont need fastboot there ... just use the --recovery-image option for ubuntu-device-flash
[09:53] <ogra_> (with a path to the downloaded image as option)
[10:16] <crusty_> ogra, i work very weel with --recovery-image option and not with "fastboot flash recovery". thanks you
[10:16] <ogra_> :)
[10:39] <zzarr> crusty_, hello! I'm back, how is it going?
[11:30] <mardy> tvoss: hi! Is location-service suppoesed to build fine in wily? I'm getting errors building the tests: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12772536/
[11:33] <crusty_> zzarr, it works, with "ubuntu-device-flash touch --device arale --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en --bootstrap --recovery-image recovery.img"
[11:34] <zzarr> nice :D
[11:35] <tvoss> mardy, nope, on it
[11:36] <tvoss> mardy, mostly a leftover from the gcc5 transition, trunk is basically vivid + overlay, cleaning up right now
[11:36] <mardy> tvoss: ok. I'm looking for some bite-size tasks to get familiar with the code; do you have something to suggest?
[11:37] <mardy> tvoss: well, not necessarily bite-sized, but also not complete refactorings :-)
[11:41] <tvoss> mardy, sure :) let me see
[11:48] <tvoss> mardy, really bite sized: check that http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/location-service/trunk/view/head:/src/location_service/com/ubuntu/location/providers/gps/android_hardware_abstraction_layer.cpp#L324 is actually injecting the right time :)
[11:49] <tvoss> mardy, that would include adding a test in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/location-service/trunk/view/head:/tests/gps_provider_test.cpp
[11:49] <tvoss> mardy, those tests are installed on the device for easy debugging purposes
[11:50] <mardy> tvoss: cool! Is there a bug about that?
[11:50] <tvoss> mardy, yup, let me find it
[11:50] <tvoss> mardy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/1499256
[11:50] <ubot5`> Error: ubuntu bug 1499256 not found
[11:51] <mardy> tvoss: thanks
[11:51] <tvoss> mardy, feel free to shoot all questions my way. so that bug should introduce you to the gps provider, next step would be to move the provider out of process, introducing you to the overall infrastructure for how location::Engine works
[11:53] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue438
[12:10] <mardy> tvoss: please consider that my C++ (as in non Qt-ish C++) is quite rusty and I'm just now familiriazing with the new standard; but, the code seems to assyme that high_resolution_clock is in ms, while in fact it could be using another period.
[12:11] <tvoss> mardy, very fair point, so a duration cast might indeed be required
[12:11] <tvoss> good catch :)
[12:12]  * mardy self appoints a medal ;-)
[12:22] <mardy> tvoss: the third parameter of u_hardware_gps_inject_time() is also expecting the time to be in ms, right?
[12:22] <tvoss> mardy, I don't know off the top of my head
[12:23] <mardy> tvoss: ok, I'll check then
[12:23] <tvoss> mardy, ack
[12:29] <samurai> hi all
[12:31] <samurai> Somebody here who could help me with my BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu edition? Can't unlock the screen anymore, the phone does not react to swipes. And reboot by holding the power button does not work either...
[12:45] <jgdx> samurai, maybe press the power button for a long time? I think that should do it.
[12:45] <samurai> hi... no unfortuately this does nothing. It used to work in this situation but now it doesnt :(
[12:46] <samurai> ah
[12:46] <samurai> now it did work... strange
[12:47] <samurai> I was pressing it for more than 10 seconds before...
[12:47] <samurai> anyway, thanks for your help :)
[12:47] <zzarr> samurai, you can emulate a battery disconnect on a phone by pressing the power button and volume down at the same time
[12:52] <samurai> ah i tried this as well (without knowing it emulates battery disconnect)... no reaction. But probably I pressed the power button not strong enough... was then pressing a bit stronger than the times before...
[12:58] <zzarr> samurai, did it work?
[13:04] <samurai> zzarr: holding only the power button a little harder did work.
[13:04] <samurai> phone is running again, many thanky
[13:04] <zzarr> :D
[13:04] <zzarr> no problem :)
[13:56] <dholbach> dbarth_, alecu: thanks for helping out! once I have the complete list of track leads for UOS I'll send instructions on what to do - should be easy though!
[13:56] <dholbach> <3
[13:56]  * alecu hugs dholbach
[13:57] <dholbach> we'll also send a mail with updated instructions on how to get session scheduled
[13:57] <dholbach> for now I'd suggest to just ask people to file blueprint as always (and replace 1505 wit 1511 on https://uds.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/propose-a-session/)
[13:57]  * dholbach hugs alecu back
[13:58] <alecu> wonderful
[14:07] <dbarth_> dholbach: ok, keep us posted
[14:08] <dholbach> will do!
[15:43] <atya> hi all
[15:44] <atya> I have an awkward problem
[15:45] <atya> I have a Bq A4.5, but I don't use it for some month, and I forgot the passcode. Can anybody tell me, how can I reset it, or what can I do<
[15:45] <atya> ?
[15:45] <atya> didn't I mean
[15:46] <atya> Is there any way to reset passcode, or the whole device? Or reflash it completly?
[15:47] <atya> Or I have a working brick?
[15:48] <tathhu> I think you could atleast reflash it
[15:48] <tathhu> But then you lose all your data (
[15:48] <tathhu> :(
[15:48] <matv1> sure you can reflash
[15:49] <atya> That is not a problem. I need to use it, so I have no choises...
[15:49] <jgdx> atya, no dev mode?
[15:50] <jgdx> atya, at worst, you could boot to recovery/fastboot (never remember which) and mount the system and change the pwd
[15:50] <jgdx> not sure a reflash would do you any good
[15:51] <jgdx> tathhu, and you wouldn't lose your data on a reflash
[15:51] <tathhu> doesn't it wipe everything if you use --bootstrap?
[15:51] <tathhu> jgdx, ^
[15:51] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, hey congrats for the new version of falldown, I love the new theme
[15:52] <jgdx> tathhu, yes, with that flag it wipes.
[15:52] <tathhu> jgdx atya but i thing that's the final solutio
[15:52] <tathhu> n
[15:53] <atya> jgdx:  is any documentation of this anywhere?
[15:53] <atya> tathhu:  ok I will try to find the right passcode before :D
[15:54] <jgdx> atya, probably.. google “fastboot mount system”. Sorry I can't be of more help, gtg.
[15:54] <atya> is there any wrong passcode limit?
[15:55] <atya> jgdx:  ok, I will try to find it, and solve my problem. If I can't, I will come back later
[15:55] <matv1> atya yes there is a limit but it only makes you wait for 5 minutes after a certain amount of tries
[15:56] <atya> matv1:  then I will try all the night ;D
[15:56] <matv1> haha
[15:56] <atya> tnx for all the help
[15:56] <atya> bye
[15:57] <matv1> also If you did enable developer mode, you could gain access over adb
[15:57] <atya> matv1:  I can't remember, but I will try to access it
[15:57] <matv1> atya cancel that. you can only gain adb connection in unlocked mode sorry :)
[15:58] <atya> tnx again, ( I will find the passcode, I can do it :D )
[15:58] <matv1> sure. gd luck
[15:58] <atya> matv1:  oh
[15:58] <atya> ok, bye
[16:49] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, thanks :-)
[16:58] <bobloblian> good morning, I have a BQ E5 that appears to detect a sim card, but no cell networks.  I am wondering how I can determine if this is a hardware limitation, or something else.
[17:14] <dobey> bobloblian: it could be missing APN for your provider (not sure who your provider is though)
[17:16] <bobloblian> dobey: thanks for responding.  Would the APN be required just to list the networks (ie when I click carrier under cellular settings)?
[17:18] <dobey> bobloblian: i don't know enough to say one way or the other about that
[17:24] <bobloblian> dobey: okay, thanks....
[17:26] <dobey> bobloblian: i would guess that if APN info is required to identify the network then indeed it might not show up when scanning for networks, but i don't know enough about how that works to answer definitely
[17:27] <bobloblian> just checked, my provider says it is not required
[17:28] <tvoss> mardy, anything I can help with?
[17:57] <awe> bobloblian, where are you based?  The APN editor is only concerned with setting up the proper attributes for the data connection
[17:57] <awe> if you can't register to a network, what APN(s) you have configured is a moot point
[18:09] <bobloblian> awe: I am in Yukon Canada.  My provider says the same thing, I should be able to scan and see the networks available.  they showed me how that works on an android phone, but mine doesn't seem to see anything
[18:10] <awe> What's your provider?
[18:10] <bobloblian> the provider is ice wireless
[18:10] <pmcgowan> wow
[18:10] <bobloblian> I tried running ./list-modems, I can see some details about the sim card, so it seems it knows the card is in there...
[18:11] <awe> bobloblian, frankly the pure 2g performance of the BQ isn't that great.  I'm able to use it in the US ( Boston ) with AT&T, but's it's far from good
[18:11] <awe> bobloblian, that's not going to tell you much
[18:11] <bobloblian> heh, right now I would settle for not great, but at least working ;)
[18:12] <bobloblian> do you know how I can tell if the phone is failing to scan for the network, or if the networks are simply undetectable?
[18:15] <awe> bobloblian, it's probably the latter.  Have you tried to see if you get any output from 'list-operators'?
[18:15] <awe> ( same dir as list-modems )
[18:17] <bobloblian> awe: that outputs just the two modems, ril_1 and 0
[18:18] <awe> do you have one or two SIMs installed?
[18:18] <bobloblian> I have confirmed with the provider that they support some of the frequencies listed on the spec sheet for the phone
[18:18] <bobloblian> just one
[18:18] <awe> which slot?
[18:18] <awe> top of bottom?
[18:18] <bobloblian> I also know there is another provider in the area that has all the frequencies, so I should be able to see them
[18:18] <bobloblian> I have tried in both, but currently it is in the top slot
[18:18] <awe> ok
[18:20] <bobloblian> just for the sake of saying it, I have been through the bug reports, exhausted google, and tried by trial and error every setting in cellular settings, and the ./list-* to figure it out...
[18:20] <SturmFlut> Does anybody know what the plan for Bluetooth is? As far as I understand ist we'll ship Bluez5 with one of the next OTAs, but does that also mean we'll ship QtBluetooth or any other abstraction layer?
[18:20] <bobloblian> I am thinking from all I have read there shoudl be some way in ofono to tell me the problem, but I haven't been able to find any docs that tell me how
[18:21] <awe> SturmFlut, yes... there will be integration at the Qt layer
[18:21] <awe> that's needed for BLE
[18:21] <SturmFlut> awe: Cool, do you know when?
[18:22] <awe> SturmFlut, probably OTA9, however it's still being discussed.  We were shooting for earlier, but it's a huge change
[18:23] <awe> bobloblian, it's not an ofono problem, it's most likely a hw problem... in that it's not a great 2g-only device;  Have you contacted BQ?
[18:23] <SturmFlut> awe: That would be in about two months then, right?
[18:24] <awe> yes, thereabouts
[18:24] <awe> but please don't take this as a promise
[18:24] <awe> I'm working on it as we speak
[18:24] <awe> we'd hoped to get it out earlier
[18:24] <SturmFlut> Oh, I've been waiting since April or so, I can wait two more months ;)
[18:25] <awe> great... we'll keep at it!
[18:27] <awe> bobloblian, gimme a few minutes... I'm looking at a couple of other things here, that might help give us a better clue
[18:30] <bobloblian> awe: thanks.  I have contacted BQ.  I actually got my first phone from them, it had the same symptoms, but the card wasn't actually deteced in the first slot, only the 2nd.  so they had me flash it and do a bunch of things, then had me send it back and I got a new one.  Now both slots are working, but still no networks
[18:30] <bobloblian> this time I am trying here first, operating on the assumption that if this is a hardware problem, is not one they can fix
[18:32] <mcphail> awe: I'd be happy to be a tester for any bluetooth changes. Would be very nice if bt actually worked
[18:33] <awe> bobloblian, I'll discuss with abeato tomorrow.  After a quick re-check, there are RIL commands that can be used to query/set the RF configuration of a device, however we currently don't support these commands
[18:34] <awe> the best I can do is promise to investigate whether or not they work at all with the BQ device, and possible get you a test version of ofono to try
[18:35] <bobloblian> awe: :D thank you sooooo much :D Any help is so much appreciated you have no idea...
[18:35] <awe> mcphail, for BLE, or just regular BT?
[18:35] <mcphail> BLE?
[18:35] <bobloblian> If there is any documentation, I am also happy to try and help myself if you can point me at what I need to educate myself with...
[18:36] <awe> mcphail, ;)-
[18:36] <awe> yea, it's one of the features that comes with Bluez5
[18:36] <dobey> mcphail: bluetooth low energy
[18:36] <awe> it's called Bluetooth Low Energeyt
[18:36] <mcphail> aah - no just regular BT. I don't do the fitbit thing
[18:37] <awe> bobloblian, unfortunately this is deep in the ofono driver code... As mentioned we'll discuss internally tomorrow, so check back me later then
[18:37] <mcphail> Just need it to connect to my car :)
[18:37] <awe> mcphail, great.  We'll let folks know if we need extra help testing.  thanks for the offer
[18:38] <dobey> it might require more work than just having bluez5 in the image, to get bt working on nexus5 or 1+1 devices
[18:39] <dobey> working bt would be a good step though. would be nice to have working location too :)
[18:39] <mcphail> dobey: now you're asking for the moon on a stick :)
[18:39] <dobey> mcphail: well, if i could find the moon, i might be able to get there ;)
[18:39] <mcphail> ha!
[18:40] <awe> dobey, we're focused on the bq devices and mx4 to start
[18:40] <awe> ( at least for BLE )
[18:40] <awe> although bluez5 should be a big improvement for regular BT as well
[18:40] <dobey> awe: yeah, i know you don't care about the n5 or 1+1 anyway. i'm sure mcphail cares about 1+1 though ;)
[18:40] <awe> bluez4 was deprecated, and not really supported by upstream
[18:41] <dobey> yeah
[18:41] <awe> I car, just not as strongly about the official devices.  ;)-
[18:41] <awe> wow,... that came out wrong
[18:41] <awe> d'oh
[18:41] <awe> you know what I mean
[18:41] <dobey> lol
[18:42] <mcphail> dobey: I'd care if I _had_ a 1+1 :)
[18:42]  * awe goes back to hacking on ofono
[18:42] <dobey> mcphail: oh, did i confuse you with someone else? i thought it was you doing that port
[18:43] <mcphail> dobey: I'd be happy to take the credit, but neither own the device nor have ported anything in my life
[18:43] <dobey> mcphail: oh, sorry! :)
[18:43] <mcphail> :)
[18:44] <dobey> yeah, i confused you with mariogrip :)
[18:44] <mcphail> Just a tab-completion error away :)
[18:45]  * dobey goes back to trying to understand golang/gccgo
[19:28] <jnxd> I recently cloned from the Music app respository, imported it in the sdk, and hit crtl+R. it went alright, but where's the convergence?
[19:28] <jnxd> I mean, it behaves just like it does in my phone, regardless of what shape or size the window is in
[19:28] <ahayzen> jnxd, in a separate WIP branch :-)
[19:28] <jnxd> ahayzen: is that public? how do I get it?
[19:28] <ahayzen> jnxd, https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/refactor-adaptive-page-layout .. and you'll need to run it either on Wily or by branches the latest ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[19:28] <ahayzen> *branching
[19:29] <ahayzen> jnxd, it is still WIP and buggy as we are awaiting fixes in the ui toolkit
[19:29] <jnxd> ahayzen: so nothing on the default vivid. guess there's nothing more to it than waiting
[19:30] <jnxd> ahayzen: any other core-app which I can test on vivid?
[19:30] <jnxd> I want to explore more of the adative layout
[19:30] <ahayzen> jnxd, if you branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk and then follow the instructions to run the app with that sdk you can make use of the new tools on vivid
[19:31] <ahayzen> (thats what i do)
[20:40] <jgdx> dobey, whatcha working on?
[20:42] <dobey> jgdx: stuff and things
[20:42] <dobey> :)
[20:43] <dobey> jgdx: why, what's up?
[20:43] <jgdx> dobey, not much, but I'm looking at push/polld code.
[20:44] <jgdx> and it's go
[20:44] <dobey> yes it is
[20:44] <jgdx> and I'm trying to broaden my horizon
[20:45] <jgdx> dobey, it's ubuntu stuffs your working on?
[20:45] <jgdx> *and things
[20:46] <dobey> yes, purchasing framework
[20:46] <jgdx> ah
[20:50] <dobey> jgdx: part of the work currently happening there was rewriting pay-service in go. i wouldn't generally recommend go for such things yet
[20:55] <jgdx> dobey, from cpp? I guess you get some wins in the concurrency dept.
[20:56] <dobey> jgdx: yeah, from cpp. i don't know if i'd call it a win. the tests keep timing out on the launchpad builders for some unknown reason
[20:57] <jgdx> a deadlock?
[21:00] <jgdx> those are fun to debug
[21:01] <dobey> well it's not a deadlock i don't think
[21:01] <dobey> the tests always pass and run fine locally :(
[21:01] <dobey> and simply rebuilding on lp usually works
[21:02] <dobey> plus having to statically link everything, and do vendoring of source code of libraries you need to use, and all that, is a pain
[21:02] <dobey> also, the general lack of useful libraries for client side stuff
[21:02] <jgdx> yeah, seems to be some duplication around
[21:04] <jgdx> development in one project required bzr, mercurial and git to fetch deps :P
[21:21] <dobey> jgdx: if you want to fix a bug, figuring out how to get gccgo-4.9 working on vivid, and replicating https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-push/+bug/1431486 with it, would be a good start. gccgo-5 can't be used, because it requires g++5 it seems
[21:21] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1431486 in ubuntu-push (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-push fails to build with gccgo" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:25] <jgdx> dobey, it's gc now (I haven't looked)
[21:25] <jgdx> ^?
[21:26] <dobey> jgdx: on wily golang-go is used everywhere, but the older golang in vivid doesn't support all the archs, so arm64 and ppc there get gccgo, but for some reason it installs gccgo-5, which is way wrong
[21:26] <dobey> and when i tried to install gccgo-4.9 i couldn't get it configured to be /usr/bin/go
[21:26] <dobey> no idea why
[21:34] <jgdx> okay, I haven't gotten around to looking at how polld/push are compiled yet. Noted, though.
[21:48] <dobey> jgdx: well, that issue isn't limited to push/polld. anything in go that has bindings to c/c++ libs on those archs will fail
[21:48] <dobey> anyway, time for me to get out of my office. later :)
[23:08] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Awesome :)