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Seeker`completely OT, but this is amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YS0vGq0QsE00:01
mappppsHi all06:18
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MooDoohowdy all07:05
DJonesMorning07:18
DJonesHmmh, is playing minecraft for 35 hours + really worth an entry as a guiness world record and even a news report on the bbc technology news page07:19
zmoylan-pimaybe if you die in an internet café in korea immediately afterwards?07:39
diploMorning, and no DJones :)07:39
zmoylan-pii think my longest game session was about 15 hours in 80s playing tau ceti07:40
JohnHuntgosh07:41
zmoylan-pii wanted to play the game start to finnish in 1 session07:41
JohnHuntI've forgotten our new co-workers name07:41
JohnHuntcarl07:41
JohnHuntphew07:41
zmoylan-pigive him a t-shirt or base ball cap with carl on it in a qr code :-P07:42
JohnHuntqr code lol07:42
davmor2Morning all08:16
selinuxiumHi all o/09:01
MooDoohowdy selinuxium09:09
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Ada Lovelace Day! 😃09:19
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:19
davmor2JamesTait: the most loosely tied in song containing the words love and lace that I can think of :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofLasLNVQ7w09:26
JohnHuntmuch emoji09:34
MyrttiI bought some Taylors decaffinated coffee the other day so I could have coffee in the evening without ruining my sleep. Turns out it's actually quite nice! WHODATHUNKIT09:49
selinuxium'lo MooDoo  :)09:50
JamesTaitdavmor2, I'll let you off with that one.09:53
selinuxiumAny one here played with juju?09:57
JohnHuntMyrtti: with the decaf stuff as long as you use more of it it is ok10:03
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)10:52
MooDoohowdy bigcalm10:52
bigcalmo/11:03
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AzelphurGot to the bottom of my FedEx customs shenanigans15:35
daftykinsfor them thar displays again?15:35
Azelphuryup15:35
daftykinsoh they holding up the shipment now?15:36
Azelphurthey are definitely trying to play me, I got the commodity code they chose for my monitors, https://www.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/8528498000 ...15:36
Azelphuryes they are, and they are trying to charge me 14% because they chose ^ as my commodity code15:36
daftykinsCRTs!15:36
zmoylan-pithey hate you because you ordred crts :-)15:37
AzelphurI didn't order CRTs, they are LED monitors15:37
diddledanseems lcd aren't subject: https://www.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/852859310015:37
zmoylan-pithey hate you because you *didn't* ordr crts then :-)15:37
diddledanI guess that's because of environmental concerns?15:38
Azelphurdiddledan: indeed they aren't, neither are leds, which is what these monitors are15:38
daftykinswell, LED backlit LCDs15:38
diddledanled screens are lcd15:38
daftykinsapart from OLED, they are no more LED than virgin media are providing fiber tubes ;)15:38
* Azelphur shrugs15:39
AzelphurI told them to use this code, https://www.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/852859390015:39
daftykinslooks good15:40
diddledanI think my one would be more appropriate15:41
diddledanbut seems there's not much difference with the two15:42
Azelphuryea not a whole lot of difference15:44
diddledanat least if they decide it's an incorrect filing you can get them to change it to the alternative which means your duty goes from 0% to 0% :-p15:46
Azelphurdiddledan: yea, mainly trying to drop the 14% on CRTs15:46
diddledanhaha, lance henrikson is in a new film called "harbinger down" where he uses his catchphrase from jaws slightly altered to "we're gonna need a bigger bucket"15:47
zmoylan-pihe wasn't in jaws15:48
diddledanyou sure?15:48
* zmoylan-pi bets a euro15:48
diddledanwho was in jaws then?15:48
zmoylan-pischeider?15:49
diddledanaah15:49
diddledanmy bad15:49
diddledanstill funny15:49
diddledanwow, there's someone touting an hdmi computer-stick with 8GB of rams: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/magicstick-most-powerful-pc-stick-8gb-ram#/16:02
zmoylan-pi2015 will be the year of the desktop you lose in your pocket :-)16:07
diddledanindeed16:07
daftykinsooh my Dell UK have the new XPS 13 9350 :D16:08
diddledan\o/16:08
diddledanwhen you buying? :-p16:08
daftykinswhen i'm rich16:08
diddledanlol16:09
daftykinshttp://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/PopupProductDetail.aspx?c=uk&l=en&cs=ukbsdt1&sku=452-BBOO&price=140.1916:10
daftykinssingle cable USB, external displays and LAN 8D16:10
diddledan\o/16:12
diddledanI like docking stations16:12
* diddledan docks his port16:12
daftykins'tis proper thunderbolt over USB16:13
diddledanooh?16:13
daftykinshttp://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-9350-laptop/pd?ref=PD_OC16:13
diddledanI thought thunderbolt used a display-port-compatible system16:13
daftykinswell it throws display protocols over so depending on the breakout at the other end, it can go into multiple socket types for video ja16:14
diddledanaah16:14
daftykinssince DP goes out into DP, HDMI or i think VGA too16:14
daftykinsi think i might get one tbh :P it seems really nice16:14
diddledanyeah DP has an analogue set of wires, like dvi16:15
awilkinsI have a DP > HDMI adapter16:15
diddledanI believe DP is just HDMI without the licensing16:15
daftykinsjust a shame you can't get the top end model with a FHD display, they make you go up to 4K16:15
awilkinsAnd a DP > VGA adapter16:15
daftykinspretty much, far higher signal speed than common HDMI though... bit higher than HDMI 2.0 too i think16:15
awilkinsYeah, the DP connector looks JUSt like an HDMI only the plug is shifted to the side and the housing lost a corner16:15
diddledanyeah I think DP is a superset16:15
awilkinsNot sure if you need active circuits16:16
diddledanmost DPs these days use the mini-DP plug/socket IIRC16:16
awilkinsMy DP > HDMI adapter has enough room for some circuitboard in16:16
diddledanlil square thingy16:16
daftykins"6. Thunderboltℱ 3 supporting: Power in/charging, PowerShare, Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps bi-directional), USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps), VGA, HDMI, Ethernet and USB-A via Dell Adapter (sold separately)"16:16
awilkinsAnd of course, Thunderbolt and USB-C are the same physical thing16:16
daftykinshttp://i.dell.com/sites/imagecontent/products/PublishingImages/xps-13-9350-laptop/laptop-xps-13-9350-pdp-polaris-09.jpg16:16
diddledanI like the concept of USB-C16:17
awilkinsUSB-C for all the things16:17
diddledanfinally a single connector for evarythang16:17
awilkinsI still think Apple are being wanky by only putting one in a Macbook Air though16:17
diddledantis a shame Microsoft didn't put it on their new surfaces16:17
popeyI'm sad more laptops don't have it16:17
* awilkins apologises for mildly unsafe comment in family channel16:17
popeymaybe next gen ones will16:18
popeywhich is interesting that apple lead the way on that16:18
awilkinsThey took the whole "one port for everything" tagline too seriously though16:18
diddledanawilkins, as in they only put one port on the device?16:18
awilkinsYup16:18
diddledanyeah, that's a bit sucky16:19
diddledanmeans you're requried to use a hub16:19
awilkinsEspecially since it's now the charge port16:19
daftykinstrust me Apple don't lead the way, they always just try and push new connectors and mostly end up failing - costing their customers plenty in the process :P16:20
daftykinscase in point, firewire A and B16:20
popeyusb16:21
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popeythey led on that16:21
zmoylan-piand horrible lightning cables16:21
awilkinsI hate Firewire16:22
awilkinsI dunno why it's named that, but I always get a shock off it16:22
awilkinsMaybe that IS why16:22
popeyThey led the way on firewire, which was better than the other options at the time.16:23
diddledanfirewire uses plugs that can be coerced into connecting backasswards thereby ruining the devices at both ends16:23
popeyalong with sony16:23
awilkinsFirewire lets hackers pwn your machine because it has a DMA controller16:23
awilkinsAs does Thunderbolt16:23
zmoylan-pibring back scsi.... :-)16:23
popeyRS-232 9-pin D ftw16:24
popeys/9/25/16:24
zmoylan-pii know a song about rs-232...16:24
awilkinsIs it "RS-232 / RS-232 / RS-232 / Interface Lead"  ?16:24
m0nkey_Darn Canada Post. They've had a package for me since yesterday evening (scanned at around 10pm) .. Yet it didn't go out for delivery today. I'm a sad m0nkey_ :(16:24
awilkins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlj0jBtYmQ16:25
zmoylan-piyou beat me to it :-)16:25
daftykinsawilkins: shock off firewire? it doesn't even provide power :)16:26
awilkinsIt always feels ... buzzy16:27
awilkinsMaybe I have a grounding problem16:27
diddledandaftykins, it does!16:27
zmoylan-pii was always shocked by dodgy coax network cable16:27
daftykinsD: must've been a later addition?16:28
diddledanzmoylan-pi, I'm always shocked by my birds' nest of cables - it is a mess!16:28
daftykinsoh that thing i linked appears to provide video output and gigabit LAN just from a standard USB 3.0 port, Dell UK don't appear to list their thunderbolt adapter yet.16:34
daftykinshandy page on thunderbolt 3 over USB C: https://thunderbolttechnology.net/blog/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-does-it-all16:37
popeyo/5016:53
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zmoylan-pididdledan: you're gonna need a bigger kayak... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUld0tszSG817:35
m6lpilol18:01
m6lpibigger paddle more like18:02
daftykinsany of you lot active that are ops in #ubuntu? tux38 needs ejecting and sooner rather than later.18:27
diddledan$ eject /dev/tux3818:31
* diddledan joins #ubuntu to see the damage18:31
zmoylan-piditto18:31
daftykinsoh my bad it was taken care of18:32
daftykins4 mins ago18:32
daftykinscatching up on some work here ^_^18:32
diddledanbah18:33
zmoylan-pihumbug?18:33
* zmoylan-pi proffers bag18:33
Myrttisorry, I was off to eating my most excellent Tesco curry18:37
daftykins:D18:41
MyrttiI prefer their korma and chicken tikka masala to any I've had in UK...18:44
Myrttiahem18:44
daftykinsheh19:03
daftykinsi had a really nice lamb curry down in Lewes with my friends19:03
diddledanjust watched chappie - he's adorable19:04
daftykinsooh i was gonna check that out, good call19:04
daftykinsalso that one with the big podgy robot19:04
diddledanbig hero 6?19:05
directhexthat is indeed a big podgy robot19:05
daftykinsthat's the one :D19:06
daftykinsdiddledan in saving me from looking things up \o/19:06
directhexi'm waiting for inside out to come out on blurry.19:06
diddledanI really wanna see inside out, too19:06
directhexsaw it on the plane to boston last month19:06
directhexand watched it again on the flight back19:07
diddledanlol19:07
directhexit's that good. holy hell.19:07
daftykinshrmm Fargo s2 just started19:08
directhexand it's the most emotionally scarring film in disney history. screw simba's dad and bambi's mom and the toy story 3 furnace19:08
daftykinsis this the one about a lass's emotions?19:09
daftykinsyesh it is the one i'm thinking of19:10
directhexthat's the one19:11
directhexand now i'm sorta crying from just listening to the soundtrack on youtube. it's a hell of a film!19:36
daftykins;_;19:36
daftykinsi don't think my emotions need that right now!19:36
directhexapparently the original up script had an extra 30 seconds of crushing despair, so this is my reaction to the "happy" final cut19:42
zmoylan-pisquirrel!!19:46
daftykinsooh i saw one in St Albans!19:48
daftykinswe don't have them over here19:48
zmoylan-pithey released a bunch of red squirrels on wooded hill near me to repopulate the red squirrel population after they were decimated by the greys... saw one squished on road outside my place...19:49
daftykins:S19:52
zmoylan-pii have seen a grey cross the road safely so they can learn i suppose. if they live long enough or see other squirrels do it19:56
diddledanwe all know what happens when a grey crosses the road: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3516832537/20:20
daftykinsi was riding past one of the world war 2 tunnels dug by locals under duress of the occupying German forces, today20:20
daftykinssome extend for miles under the island20:20
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/gxdwvfnftvl2nih/VID_20151013_140922.mp4?dl=020:20
daftykinswee little vid of ones entrance :P20:21
diddledanI'm not sure it's a good idea to video someone's entrance :-p20:33
diddledan</risqué>20:34
daftykinstee-hee!20:34
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