[00:00] <Cernunnos> I fixed it
[00:02] <Cernunnos> It wasn't the problem of my client
[00:04] <Cernunnos> I enabled a throttler thing on my P2P server
[00:04] <Cernunnos> thingy
[00:04] <Cernunnos> on my other computer which I have hosting the things
[00:04] <Cernunnos> Idk why your official torrents were so slow but
[00:17] <Joao> hello
[00:17] <Joao> need some help
[00:17] <Joao> not on ubuntu though
[00:17] <Joao> anyone available?
[00:18] <bazhang> Joao, ask a question first please
[00:18] <Joao> ok thamks
[00:19] <Joao> I use Ubuntu but now I purchased a second hand hp mini 110
[00:19] <Joao> I investigated some linux distros to see wich one I would like the best
[00:19] <Joao> hp mini 110 its a netbook
[00:20] <Joao> well I trid several and I fell in love with Moblin 2.1
[00:20] <Joao> *tried
[00:20] <bazhang> !requirements | Joao have a read
[00:20] <Joao> itś just what I need... fast, light, web oriented..
[00:20] <Joao> reaaly simple and nice!
[00:21] <Joao> thanks
[00:21] <bazhang> Joao, any ubuntu questions in there?
[00:21] <Joao> I now its a ubuntu comunity
[00:21] <Joao> I just need some help to install wireless drivers!
[00:21] <bazhang> try to use alis to search for moblin support channel Joao
[00:21] <Joao> sorry!
[00:21] <Joao> :D
[00:22] <Joao> thanks
[00:22] <bazhang> !alis | Joao
[00:23] <Joao> I did a /list
[00:23] <Joao> no moblin found!
[00:23] <Joao> :(
[00:24] <bazhang>  /msg alis list moblin
[00:24] <Joao> ok
[00:24] <Joao> thanks for your patience
[00:24] <Joao> and sorry again!
[00:26] <maddawg3> well this sucks... i just tried to do a dist-upgrade on ubuntu 12.04 to get it to 14.04 and umm well now it wont boot
[00:26] <maddawg3> i just get the ubuntu splash screen
[00:26] <maddawg3> and a constant progress bar (dots) below it
[00:26] <maddawg3> cycling
[00:26] <maddawg3> but the OS never boots
[00:26] <OerHeks> Joao, no #moblin here on #freenode .. ehh Moblin merged with MeeGo
[00:26] <maddawg3> this is exactly why i didnt upgrade ubuntu for so long gah
[00:26] <maddawg3> everytime i do an upgrade it breaks
[00:27] <Joao> :D :D
[00:27] <Joao> life savers!
[00:27] <Joao> Thank you all
[00:27] <Joao> I didnt find it... weird
[00:27] <OerHeks> oh, their wiki says it is not tizen, www.tizen.org , #tizen here on freenode :-D
[00:27] <maddawg3> if i hit "escape" it says saned disabled: edit etc/default/saned
[00:28] <OerHeks> it is a puzzle
[00:28] <maddawg3> and then blinking cursor
[00:28] <Joao> MeeGo is a thing?
[00:31] <Joao> oh.. I got it!
[00:31] <Joao> Moblin became MeeGo
[00:31] <Joao> thank you again!
[00:31] <Joao> :D
[00:33] <maddawg3> well that sucked
[00:33] <draeath> I've got a VM I'd like to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04, however the repositories seem to just be... gone. I can't do the first step of an upgrade ("Be sure that you have all updates applied to your current version of Ubuntu before you upgrade.") without. Are these laying around anywhere?
[00:34] <draeath> my current mirrors are security.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com
[00:34] <draeath> I'm hoping there's a place that the old releases go to die, as Debian has
[00:34] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[00:34] <maddawg3> well doing upgrades suck in general i come to find lol
[00:34] <draeath> OerHeks, thanks :)
[00:34] <maddawg3> i very rarely get a working upgrade
[00:34] <OerHeks> see the old-releases part, draeath
[00:34] <maddawg3> i dont get it
[00:35] <draeath> OerHeks, yep, that's -exactly- what I was looking for, thanks again
[00:35] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[00:35] <draeath> Shame the help.ubuntu.com articles for various release-to-release upgrades don't have that one in their See-Also, would have saved me from buggin ya heh
[00:35] <maddawg3> no solution to the fact that a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade broke my 12.04
[00:35] <maddawg3> i'm royally fudged now
[00:36] <maddawg3> easy upgrade my butt
[00:36] <draeath> maddawg3: I'm no stranger to the process, just was missing the relevant mirror detail :P
[00:37] <maddawg3> i'm sure it went fine for you
[00:37] <maddawg3> not for me tho
[00:37] <draeath> also, you should always backup before you do such a thing.
[00:37] <maddawg3> i did back up
[00:37] <maddawg3> i have the files
[00:37] <maddawg3> but now i gotta start the whole darn thing over
[00:37] <draeath> Heck you should be backing up regularly anyway. Virtualization is awesome :P
[00:37] <maddawg3> still a pain in the butt
[00:37] <maddawg3> i cant virtualize unfortunately
[00:37] <maddawg3> no NIC drivers for vmware esxi
[00:37] <maddawg3> for my particular card
[00:38] <draeath> There are, you just have to know how to insert them into the ESXi ISO
[00:38] <maddawg3> i chose the one damn dedi that has a NIC NOT supported
[00:38] <maddawg3> no there are not
[00:38] <draeath> It's running linux. If linux has a driver, you can get ESXi working with it.
[00:38] <maddawg3> not true.. you need the vim file
[00:38] <maddawg3> there isn't one
[00:38] <maddawg3> vib*
[00:39] <maddawg3> it's an intel x552/x557
[00:39] <maddawg3> there is ZERO support for vmware
[00:39]  * draeath just transplanted the relevant kernel modules from the same kernel version elsewhere and it worked
[00:39] <maddawg3> how did you do that
[00:39] <maddawg3> cuz i have no clue how to do that.. if i could do that i'd make a custom iso for vmware with it in there
[00:40] <maddawg3> but i tried a number of intel NICs before giving up due to googling my mobo and everyone saying there wasnt a way
[00:41] <maddawg3> lspci on ubuntu shows two ethernet controllers with 8086:15ab
[00:41] <draeath> It's been a while, I don't remember the details. I believe it was just a matter of building a kernel of the same version on another system (same arch, CPU type, etc) with and without the module, and doing a filesystem diff to get the files it added to /lib/modules
[00:41] <maddawg3> which is the X552/X557 intel card
[00:41] <maddawg3> for vmware esxi?
[00:41] <draeath> Yea, it was to get some junky rt chipset NIC to work
[00:42] <maddawg3> if i knew how to do all that then maybe
[00:42] <maddawg3> i was gonna try out kvm
[00:43] <draeath> Yea, vmware is nice when it works for you, but if you're not using supported hardware etc (eg just for goofing around) I wouldn't feel tied to it
[00:43] <draeath> now at work when we have UCS chassis full of blades behind nexus switching and so on, that's totally different
[00:43] <megan__> hi
[00:44] <maddawg3> i didnt realize this server didnt support vmware
[00:44] <maddawg3> i am getting it from a dedi
[00:44] <JhonnyCOL> Testing EMACS ERC :)
[00:44] <maddawg3> dedi provider*
[00:44] <maddawg3> they provide a 12.04 ubuntu image which i then tried to upgrade to 14.04 and that failed
[00:45] <draeath> maddawg3, it's not so much the server supporting vmware, but vmware supporting the server. they are... like that
[00:45] <draeath> maddawg3, save yourself the trouble in the future ;)  https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php
[00:45] <maddawg3> draeath, unfortunately the dedi provider does not tell me the NIC beforehand
[00:46] <maddawg3> it just says 2 x 10gb interfaces
[00:46] <draeath> Did you ask and they didn't know or say?
[00:46] <maddawg3> it's ovh
[00:46] <draeath> or you just didn't realize vmware was so picky that you'd need to
[00:46] <maddawg3> well i have a dedi with ovh with ESXI running fine
[00:46] <maddawg3> (in fact it was one of their templateS)
[00:46] <maddawg3> so i thought the new server i was getting had the same specs
[00:47] <maddawg3> but when i got it provisioned it turned out that vmware wasnt available
[00:47] <maddawg3> so i called
[00:47] <maddawg3> they told me it wasnt compatible with that NIC
[00:47] <draeath> Sucks that their interface didn't catch that corner case
[00:47] <maddawg3> despite it showing in their hosting page under the stupid vm logo
[00:47] <maddawg3> which i then understood was misleading
[00:47] <maddawg3> they told me i could use the ip kvm to mount my own iso of vmware esxi
[00:47] <maddawg3> which i tried
[00:48] <maddawg3> but it wont find NICs
[00:48] <maddawg3> tried a few different drivers
[00:48] <draeath> maddawg3, the issue is they only bundle kernel modules for a few specific NICs
[00:49] <draeath> and the installer will not continue if there's no valid network interface detected. That's why inserting the kernel module(s) into the ISO should work, but you have to know how to get them, how to update it in the bootable part of the ISO, -and- in the filesystem image it deploys so it works post-boot.
[00:50] <draeath> Honestly it's probably safer to just not use vmware, or have them set you up with hardware that supports it
[00:50] <maddawg3> yea i only know how to create a custom iso with already made vib drivers
[00:50] <maddawg3> lol i then went to see what it would cost to get a vm server and it more than doubled
[00:50] <maddawg3> and i got a 3rd of the storage
[00:50] <maddawg3> which sucked
[00:51] <maddawg3> i gotta install their ubuntu first to see if i can get the network configuration so i can do my own custom ubuntu 14.04
[00:51] <maddawg3> i'd like to just do a apt-get dist upgrade but that proved to be fatal
[00:52] <draeath> have you tried a more incremental upgrade? eg to 14.10 first?
[00:52] <maddawg3> i was going to 14.04
[00:52] <maddawg3> from 12.04
[00:52] <draeath> oh, well. same idea. or is that the shortest jump anyway
[00:52] <maddawg3> i dont know i thougnt it was
[00:52] <maddawg3> was there a 13.04?
[00:54] <draeath> Doesn't look it: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[00:54] <draeath> did you make sure you were at 12.04.5 and all up-to-date beforehand?
[00:55] <Nikesh> Are the apt sources down?
[00:56] <Nikesh> E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/requests/python-requests_2.3.0-1ubuntu0.1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[00:57] <Nikesh> 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.24 80]
[00:57] <draeath> Nikesh, what version of ubuntu? I was just prepping an update and the Utopic repo has moved to the old-releases archive
[00:57] <draeath> I got 404s which lead me over to that discovery ;)
[00:58] <Nikesh> draeath: I'm on 14.10
[00:58] <Nikesh> How do I fix?
[00:58] <draeath> Nikesh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades   (at least go as far as updating your repository URLs)
[00:59] <draeath> Nikesh, look for "Update sources.list"
[01:01] <Nikesh> Thanks :)
[01:01] <Nikesh> Looks like I might want to upgrade then.. :/
[01:01] <draeath> You don't HAVE to. But it's something to strongly consider. Make sure you back stuff up first ;)
[01:09] <noahmg123> I know not many people would be able to help me but phpadmin can't find my config folder even though I followed it's intructions (mkdir config, chmod o+w config), but it still gives me the errors.
[01:14] <draeath> noahmg123, confirm user/group ownership as well
[01:14] <noahmg123> draeath: ok
[01:14] <noahmg123> draeath: the permissions are drwxr-xrwx
[01:15] <draeath> That's not user/group ownership :P
[01:15] <noahmg123> draeath: srry. How do I check that? (I only have ssh access right now)
[01:15] <draeath> can you do an "ls -lh" at pastebin.com and show me?
[01:16] <draeath> (honestly I wouldn't know how to help you outside of the terminal anyway)
[01:16] <noahmg123> draeath: ok.
[01:17] <noahmg123> draeath: http://pastebin.com/2pnNxQVy
[01:18] <draeath> None of this should be owned by root:root I think. What user and group does apache run as? I work with too many distros to recall how it's packaged here.
[01:20] <draeath> When you find out, try doing "chown -Rv USER:GROUP /path/to/phpmyadmin" - just be careful that you don't run that against something lower down, as it will recuse and if done on, say, / or /var you will have a Very Bad Day
[01:20] <noahmg123> draeath: well, the only user digitalocean droplets (which I am using) ships with usually is the root user, and this was built with phpadmin preinstalled, so I beleive it is ran by root.
[01:20] <draeath> hmm ok
[01:21] <noahmg123> draeath: also I get a 403 error when trying to view /path/to/phpmyadmin/config
[01:21] <draeath> Well that's not a real directory. you're supposed to change that to wherever it goes on your system :P
[01:21] <noahmg123> draeath: I used that as filler
[01:21] <draeath> ooooh
[01:21] <noahmg123> I know the actual directory
[01:22] <draeath> hmm 757 is really wierd permissions
[01:23] <Piperanci> Whats this?
[01:23] <noahmg123> draeath: I used the instructions here: http://docs.phpmyadmin.net/en/latest/setup.html#using-setup-script
[01:23] <draeath> noahmg123, config is empty right? Try doing "chmod 777" on it.
[01:23] <noahmg123> draeath: yeah it is. I'll try
[01:23] <draeath> if THAT doesn't work, I'd be confused
[01:24] <draeath> Piperanci, this is an IRC chat channel :P
[01:25] <noahmg123> draeath: ok, I still get a 403 forbidden (which is weird) and I still get the error "Please create web server writable folder config in phpMyAdmin top level directory as described in documentation." (which I did)
[01:26] <Piperanci> What do people do here?
[01:26] <noahmg123> Piperanci: they ask questions, and occasionally get help
[01:26] <noahmg123> Piperanci: how did you end up here?
[01:26] <Piperanci> Oh that's cool
[01:27] <Piperanci> I just installed Ubuntu and began clicking on everything
[01:27] <noahmg123> Piperanci: Are you new to ubuntu?
[01:27] <Piperanci> Yeah
[01:27] <Piperanci> I love it
[01:27] <noahmg123> Cool.
[01:27] <noahmg123> draeath: any ideas?
[01:28] <draeath> Piperanci, so, you found yourself to a channel on an IRC server dedicated to community support. You can find out more about IRC here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[01:28] <draeath> this place is just one of many
[01:28] <draeath> Piperanci, here's another place with some info, more oriented around Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:29] <draeath> Welcome to the party :)
[01:29] <noahmg123> draeath: so any ideas on what to do?
[01:30] <draeath> noahmg123, hmm! find the process ID of Apache and look in /proc/#### (where the #### is the process ID) and see what user owns the files in there
[01:30] <draeath> that way we can be sure if it's running as root or not
[01:30] <draeath> That's the only reason I can think of for this to be happening, other than SELinux, which doesn't apply here I think
[01:31] <draeath> noahmg123, oh did you see this? "Debian and Ubuntu have simplified this setup and all you need to do is to execute /usr/sbin/pma-configure."
[01:31] <noahmg123> draeath: it has 11 instances under ps aux. is that normal?
[01:31] <draeath> dunno if this applies for you
[01:31] <draeath> noahmg123, yea, those are worker threads
[01:31] <noahmg123> draeath: ok
[01:31] <draeath> or something. Anyway yea apache splits those up
[01:31] <draeath> Just pick one of em at random
[01:32] <noahmg123> draeath: yeah, first I will try usr/sbin/pma-configure
[01:32] <draeath> also, make sure you go to /setup and not /config in the browser
[01:32] <Guest3770> i have linux mint 17.1 how can iget to work with mu amd laqptopcuase i9t frezes lot
[01:32] <noahmg123> draeath: that was it.
[01:33] <draeath> Guest3770, you're not even on the right IRC server. See here: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
[01:33] <Rancid> draeath: Thanks!
[01:33] <Bashing-om> !mint | Guest3770
[01:34] <noahmg123> Rancid: where'd you come from?
[01:34] <draeath> noahmg123, ahah you're welcome :D
[01:34] <noahmg123> draeath: I have no idea what the command did, but it worked.
[01:34] <draeath> Me either, I don't know what it does. But it fixed your issue, so there
[01:34] <Rancid> noahmg123 draeath I'm Piperanci but changed my name
[01:35] <draeath> I've only ever installed it manually to be honest
[01:35] <draeath> Rancid, ah, ok. :)
[01:36] <noahmg123> draeath: i found out what id does, is chmods a file in /var/lib/phpmyadmin
[01:36] <draeath> noahmg123, I'm more of a RHEL guy anyway, but I came here for help with an ubuntu VM I use for some photography stuff since it was easier than building the dependencies myself
[01:37] <noahmg123> draeath: :) I like ubuntu, but maybe it's because it's what I started with.
[01:37] <draeath> Started with debian and redhat about 10 years ago, and we use RHEL pretty extensively at work. Honestly? I sneer at people who run Ubuntu on servers :P
[01:38] <draeath> Seems risky to me anyway. Great for desktops or testing etc, but if we screw up at work 911 people can't get to 911 and fun things like that.
[01:38] <noahmg123> draeath: servers? probably, but I only use ubuntu on my laptop. From what I hear RHEL started as a server.
[01:38] <draeath> Yea. You can run RHEL on a desktop if you really wanted to, but that seems a bit silly
[01:39] <smokeless> CentOS/Redhat for servers. Debian for everything else, ubuntu for support.
[01:39] <draeath> I can agree with that smokeless!
[01:39] <draeath> How's ubuntu's commercial support? Only ever interacted with RH
[01:40] <cynixx3> if ubuntu is for support can anyone help with smartctl logs?
[01:40] <draeath> maybe :P
[01:40] <noahmg123> Yeah the only reason I am using an ubuntu "server" is because I am used to the comands and am not doing anything fancy with it.
[01:40] <maddawg3> isnt there a ubuntu iso for machines without an internet connection
[01:40] <cynixx3> on a sata 3 HD 7200RPM my max transfer speed is Timing cached reads:     2 MB in  3.18 seconds = 643.96 kB/sec
[01:40] <draeath> Hey, if it works and you know it...
[01:40] <maddawg3> that gets me a basic system
[01:41] <draeath> cynixx3, that's... really really bad. Do 'smartctl -a' on it in pastebin and i'll have a look
[01:41] <cynixx3> draeath, http://pastebin.com/6GQqvzgr
[01:41] <draeath> power down NOW, get a new drive, and learn how to use ddrescue
[01:41] <draeath> that drive is bleeding all over the floor!
[01:41] <noahmg123> draeath: GoDaddy uses RHEL, I know that. They give customers ssh access (on limited users of course). I tried screwing around a bit but was not able to get much. :)
[01:42] <cynixx3> smartctl says its generally safe. but there is an error
[01:42] <draeath> cynixx3: 1856 reallocated sectors and 4632 more pending reallocation
[01:42] <draeath> a drive with -any- of either I'd consider dying.
[01:43] <maddawg3> how does one install ubuntu desktop without an internet connection?
[01:43] <draeath> That one's a code blue :P    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital_emergency_codes#Code_Blue
[01:43] <noahmg123> maddawg3: well, depends on if you have physical access to the machine.
[01:43] <cynixx3> The server is running a big scan, would that account for the reallocations?
[01:44] <noahmg123> maddawg3: you can create a boot cd but the features you will get will be limited.
[01:44] <maddawg3> noahmg no i don't not physical access... i have a ip kvm that gets me bios level access
[01:44] <draeath> No. Reallocations mean a failure to read or write to a sector on disk and the firmware has 'moved' the address to another area on platter. Reallocations mean physical damage.
[01:44] <wileee> maddawg3, Regular live desktop should do it for install
[01:44] <maddawg3> wilee i cant because i need to get on the internet with it
[01:44] <draeath> I'm not kidding that drive is in the middle of a large failure and may stop working entirely at any moment
[01:44] <cynixx3> Thanks draeath.
[01:44] <maddawg3> i cant get on the internet UNTIL i've installed it due to the fact that my nics arent available in ubuntu
[01:45] <maddawg3> well actually they are but i have no way to configure the IP settings
[01:45] <maddawg3> unless i can configure them in the live desktop i guess
[01:45] <noahmg123> maddawg3: I don't know what an ip kvm is, so I can't help you much here.
[01:45] <maddawg3> do you know what a KVM is?
[01:45] <maddawg3> a KVM Switch
[01:46] <maddawg3> keyboard, video, monitor
[01:46] <maddawg3> etc
[01:46] <draeath> maddawg3, on the download site choose alternatives, and eventually you should find a bunch of ISOs around 1-2gb in size. Those should be able to install an out-of-the-box desktop without a net connection
[01:46] <draeath> maddawg3, for example http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/vivid/ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:46] <Bashing-om> cynixx3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192335 <-How to read output of smartctl ; https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SMART_tests_with_smartctl#Viewing_the_Test_Results .
[01:46] <maddawg3> ah ok
[01:46] <maddawg3> gotcha thanks draeath
[01:47] <maddawg3> what if i configure my network settings from within the live cd
[01:47] <maddawg3> will i then be able to download during intall
[01:47] <maddawg3> install*
[01:47] <draeath> maddawg3, KVM also means this: btw http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page
[01:47] <cynixx3> Thanks Bashing-om I will look into those links. Are you of the same opinion as draeath?
[01:47] <draeath> Yes maddawg3, if you can get the network up in the live CD, it will be able to fetch packages during the install
[01:48] <draeath> Bashing-om, he's got over a thousand reallocation events and over a thousand pendings as well, btw.
[01:48] <maddawg3> draeth you for virtualizing
[01:48] <draeath> His poweron hours is also up there: 16113
[01:48] <Bashing-om> cynixx3: Yeah .. ya got serious problems as is .. Not saying the drive can not be wiped, and repurposed . Big maybe !
[01:48] <draeath> this is avery old drive
[01:48] <maddawg3> I figured he would know what an IP KVM was tho
[01:48] <maddawg3> with bios level access
[01:49] <draeath> ah, so a lights-out management
[01:49] <maddawg3> yep
[01:49] <maddawg3> that's HP's implementation basicaly
[01:49] <draeath> but yea. We have several thousand VMs at work.
[01:49] <maddawg3> but yea same dif
[01:49]  * draeath is sorry for maddawg3
[01:50] <draeath> HP's LOMs are terribad
[01:50] <Bashing-om> draeath: Yeah .. That drive is history .. Will never be in productionuse again . maybe as a 'data' disk for things not important , maybe .
[01:50] <maddawg3> it's not HP
[01:50] <maddawg3> it's a lantronix spyder
[01:50] <maddawg3> but similar concept
[01:50] <maddawg3> just not integrated
[01:50] <draeath> Bashing-om, not with a 600k/s read speed :P
[01:50] <draeath> that drive is a spinning coaster set
[01:50] <maddawg3> and it lets me mount ISOs remotely
[01:50] <maddawg3> which is helpful
[01:51] <draeath> Yes, done that with sun systems :)
[01:52] <Twirl> hey, anyone knows an alternative for conky that is easy to use?
[01:53] <Twirl> easy/lightweight
[01:53] <Twirl> i feel conky uses up too much resources and doesn't have basic GUI tools to configure it
[01:53] <wileee> lol
[01:53] <Twirl> sorry, i meant cairo-dock
[01:53] <wileee> config it how you like, nothing lighter really
[01:53] <Twirl> i need something to replace cairo-dock
[01:54] <wileee> ah cairo-dock
[01:54] <Twirl> plank or docky
[01:54] <draeath> eeew it looks like my macbook
[01:54] <draeath> why would you -want- that
[01:55]  * draeath is a freakish hybrid user of windows, linux, and osx btw.
[01:55]  * draeath hates them all, but some more than others
[01:56] <Twirl> draeath: u talking to me?
[01:57] <draeath> Yea, I did a quick search of what cairo-dock was and was... displeased
[01:57] <draeath> but I'm a freak who wants nothing but a place to launch commands from and to move windows around on
[01:57] <draeath> I realize my use case is not typical
[01:58] <Twirl> if only unity could be customized
[02:01]  * draeath kicks oracle
[02:02] <draeath> ROFL, restarting the VM after doing the upgrade... and the hypervisor freezes up
[02:02] <Twirl> which VM?
[02:03] <draeath> upgrading from utopic on a VM I run on my desktop for some photography stuff
[02:03] <draeath> virtualbox specifically in this case
[02:03] <Twirl> u run it on windows?
[02:04] <draeath> Yea. I've a bunch of hardware that doesn't work on anything else sadly.
[02:04] <draeath> linux at work all over the place (Excepting my 'workstation' there which is OSX, because the alternative was some crappy lenovo that barely functions)
[02:04] <micah_> where is multitouch handled in 15.10?
[02:05] <micah_> cause right now in both gnome and unity, three-finger taps are getting interfered with for various gestures
[02:05] <draeath> Twirl, offered the choice between a macbook (16gb ram, 1tb ssd, quad core) and some crappy barely-even-runs-windows 4gb dual-core? Yep. easy choice. I'll adapt heh.
[02:05] <micah_> but the program i'm trying to use needs them!
[02:06] <Twirl> draeath: u shouldnt be allowed in this channel
[02:06] <phelix> I have a mounted external USB drive on my ubuntu machine and I can not for the life of me figure out how to change permissions. It seems nothing I do will update and change the permissions to 777
[02:06] <micah_> is it xinput2?
[02:06] <draeath> Twirl, why? I use it all. :)
[02:07] <Twirl> draeath: use it all? lmao dude, windows is only for gaming
[02:07] <draeath> I'd be a happy linux-everywhere person again if all the hardware I hard worked. That's the fault of binary blobs though. Can't blame anyone but MFGs for that.
[02:08] <Twirl> draeath: linux works in much more hardware set ups than windows, what are u talknig about?
[02:08] <phelix> All the documents and stuff on google I have found don't seem to be working.
[02:08] <bobbobbins> hey, I just installed lightdm but when I start up my machine all I get is a black screen, anyone ever experience that or know what might be causing it?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> phelix: NTFS format ? and how are you mounting the external usb drive ?
[02:10] <bobbobbins> the logs aren't very helpful, but i'll post them, one sec
[02:10] <draeath> phelix, if it's vfat, you're stuck, it supports no such thing (and you use mount arguments like uid=, gid=, and umask= to emulate).
[02:10] <phelix> yes nfts. I have tried 2 different ways.
[02:10] <phelix> UUID=A0E63742E63717CC /media/ntfsdrive ntfs-3g permissions,auto,users,permissions 0 0
[02:10] <phelix> UUID=A0E63742E63717CC /media/MonsterT ntfs defaults,umask=077.utf8      0       0
[02:10] <phelix> neither allow me to modify perms
[02:10] <draeath> NTFS same issue really. NTFS security descriptors don't map to unix permissions really. Gonna have to use uid/gid and umask.
[02:11] <phelix> Well somehow my other usb drive is the same format and its all 777
[02:11] <phelix> I have no idea how in the world that happened.
[02:11] <draeath> wonder if the fuse library does some kind of guessing based on ownership of the root level
[02:11] <Bashing-om> phelix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604251 <-HOWTO: Mount NTFS partitions with specific ownership/permissions .
[02:11] <draeath> eg if everyone has full control
[02:12] <cdk_> which backup tool should i use to back up my os?
[02:13] <cdk_> ????
[02:13] <regedit> hello
[02:15] <Bashing-om> cdk_: Why do you feel the need to back up the entire OS ? That is not the linux way generally .
[02:15] <draeath> dar is pretty rocking. bacula is a thing too. Crashplan supports linux too.
[02:15] <bobbobbins> sorry, its easier for me to just paste a screenshot: http://www.imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=26815
[02:16] <bobbobbins> so thats the only error I get, and lightdm greeter just shows a black screen on startup
[02:16] <cdk_> what would you suggest i back up then? i just had to clean install because my os crashed
[02:17] <draeath> cdk_, probably just /etc, /usr/local/etc/, /home, and anywhere else you sprinkle files. Also a dumping of installed packages is handy.
[02:17] <Bashing-om> cdk_: All system files are on the install .. all that is 'required' to back up is persomal data and perhaps some config files .
[02:18] <cdk_> what would you suggest i use to do as such???
[02:18] <regedit> if someone's Ubuntu machine is hopelessly disconnected from the internet, but someone else with a USB stick does have web, is there any way to get the hopeless user updates / packages / software ?
[02:18] <regedit> perhaps somehow relaying the apt-get requests/info and the response packages etc?
[02:20] <Bashing-om> !APTonCD | regedit
[02:21] <regedit> gah choppy wifi
[02:21] <Bashing-om> !APTonCD | regedit
[02:22] <regedit> ye i got that one thanks! (typing reply...)
[02:22] <phelix> Bashing-om, I tried that guide.. Still doesn't work =/
[02:22] <skweek> I was installing 15.04 and the installer crashed
[02:23] <skweek> and I was able to log in after changing the password file, but there's a lot of buggyness
[02:23] <regedit> Bashing-om: how will i know what packages to get? i wish there was some way for the offline machine to describe "where it's up to" and thus what packages are missing can be deduced...
[02:23] <phelix> I used: UUID=A0E63742E63717CC /media/MonsterT ntfs-3g defaults,auto,uid=117,gid=125,umask=002   0       0
[02:24] <cdk_> regedit do you know why the computer doesnt have an internet connection???
[02:24] <phelix> No matter who mounts it. Its always mounted with the permissions of my user:user and drwx------
[02:24] <Bashing-om> regedit: get-selections -> set-selections . See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 .
[02:24] <phelix> TRying to get my media server to have access to it. And its installed as plex:plex the lines on the fstab are the uid and gid of the user plex
[02:24] <phelix> I just want to get the folder to be 777
[02:25] <skweek> like in example http://pastebin.com/BzAZcfqc
[02:25] <skweek> is there a way to finish the install or pick up adding in what ever it didn't?
[02:25] <skweek> and i'm missing icons on apps
[02:26] <micah__> anyone familiar with how touch events are handled on ubuntu 15.10?  i'm having trouble with gestures getting in the way of my program using touch events
[02:27] <Bashing-om> micah__: 15.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 .
[02:28] <cdk_> skweek to me it seems to me like the driver is not working
[02:28] <skweek> any suggestions cdk_ ?
[02:29] <amigoo89> hello guys, quick question: is there an opportunity, which logs every change that an user does to the OS?
[02:29] <amigoo89> which shell commands are typed in and so on
[02:29] <cdk_> what back up program would you use to back up personal data
[02:30] <[n0mad]> cdk_: i just use the backups application that comes with ubuntu
[02:30] <bodhi_zazen> amigoo89, not by default
[02:30] <cdk_> im not seeing it
[02:30] <Bashing-om> amigoo89: Not directly, but there is /var/log/dpkg as well as other logs for system's activity .
[02:30] <[n0mad]> in my system it shows in the dash and in settings
[02:30] <bodhi_zazen> amigoo89, you can use several tools, sudo logs commands, apt logs, and you can use OSSSEC
[02:30] <bobbobbins> anyone have a clue whats up with my issue
[02:30] <cdk_> skweek give me a minute and i will get back to you
[02:31] <regedit> Bashing-om: the solutions you've suggested thus far seem to be most helpful in scenarios where someone with a similar (even identical) machine wants to mirror all selections/packages to an offline ubuntu
[02:31] <regedit> Bashing-om: What about the offline ubuntu directly obtaining its own updates/packages "independently" without needing to refer to another similar online OS? any hopes?
[02:31] <bodhi_zazen> you would need a key logger or similar to track every command, and even then you might miss some things
[02:31] <[n0mad]> cdk_: in software center it is deja dup
[02:32] <cdk_> skweek did u try apt-cdrom??
[02:32] <skweek> just type the command apt-cdrom?
[02:32] <regedit> any solutions for the offline machine to describe its state in software/packages, and relay this state to apt-get repositories, and obtain appropriate packages in return?
[02:32] <regedit> looking that up...
[02:32] <amigoo89> okay thanks so far. so since I haven't installed something, is there at least the opporunity to see, who changed the root passwd (by default)?
[02:32] <skweek> no cdk_ , i'm not sure what to do with apt-cdrom
[02:33] <regedit> oh i though apt cdrom was being recommended to me
[02:34] <Bashing-om> amigoo89: Check /var/log/auth.log .
[02:34] <cdk_> can you boot into the os?
[02:34] <skweek> yes, i'm in it now
[02:35] <Bashing-om> regedit: I just do not know of an easy way to do the comparison of required updates .
[02:35] <cdk_> ok do you need the installer any more?
[02:36] <maddawg3> anyone have experience using LVM?
[02:36] <regedit> Bashing-om: what's this apt-cdrom people are talking about here
[02:36] <regedit> Bashing-om: might it be relevant in the slightest bit to my plight?
[02:37] <maddawg3> i have a set up where i have 5 x 6TB drives... first drive is partitioned with a 100GB partition that has ubuntu installed
[02:37] <maddawg3> (that's mounted as root)
[02:37] <maddawg3> i want to take the remaining of that drive and extend it with my other drives to create a a single mounted drive
[02:37] <maddawg3> but i am not sure the proper way to do this
[02:38] <skweek> no, but most of the packages it was going to install it looks like it didn't, there's something strange about most of the icons missing in unity, and in system manager, and much of the gui doens't look smooth, it looks blocky
[02:40] <regedit> whoops, did i miss anything
[02:41] <Bashing-om> regedit: It is a good thought; See : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptCdrom .
[02:41] <OS_Connoisseur> Is it possible to get the root password on Ubuntu?
[02:41] <amigoo89> stupid question, but can only the root password get changed, if you are loged in as root?
[02:41] <cdk_> ok you could be missing files from the install or your graphics card driver is not working well
[02:41] <amigoo89> or is it also possible like, "passwd user1"
[02:41] <cdk_> sorry i cant help more got to go
[02:42] <OS_Connoisseur> Like if I wanted to log in as root.
[02:42] <regedit> Bashing-om: well that somehow led me to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline might you be familiar with any of those softwares/solutions?
[02:42] <Bashing-om> !root | OS_Connoisseur
[02:43] <Bashing-om> regedit: No, can not say I am "familiar" as I have never had your situation.
[02:43]  * regedit hiccup-ed again
[02:45] <goddard> I need some help debugging an issue with my nvidia driver
[02:45] <goddard> i get a black screen when switching from intel to nvidia
[02:46]  * regedit is having a terrible wifi night
[02:46] <goddard> using nvidia version 352
[02:46] <skweek> my windows overlay each other, I was installing ubunutu 15.04 and the installer crashed but I could still log in after manually repairing grub,
[02:46] <Bashing-om> regedit: Sadly my last " No, can not say I am "familiar" as I have never had your situation." .
[02:47] <skweek> like the text at the top right lays over a full screen expanded window
[02:47] <regedit> Bashing-om: alrighty, thanks a bunch for all the help & pointers!
[02:47] <tsimonq2> hi, I have been trying to get this going for about an hour now, I am following this guide: http://is.gd/jmoO2p , so I cannot install espeak for anything! I tried the Ubuntu repos and I get a dependency error because I cannot install libspeak1, and installing from source is giving me a headache as it is not laid out correctly in the readme...can someone help me please?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> regedit: Not much help, but perhaps a push in the right direction .
[02:48] <Guest3770> my internet is not workingt i can google stuff but wheen it come loading for ktla.com i get  not conneted but i can go on utube just fine
[02:49] <amigoo89> stupid question, but can only the root password get changed, if you are loged in as root? or is it also possible like, "passwd user1"
[02:49] <Guest48543> Привет всем!
[02:50] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: 14.04 repository : Filename: pool/main/e/espeak/espeak_1.47.11-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb . Maybe fix you packager manager problem and install properly ?
[02:50] <regedit> does ubuntu 15.04 come with synaptic pre-installed? or just software centre
[02:50] <tsimonq2> amigoo89: you are correct...you can do password amigoo89 for example and it will work
[02:50] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: I am using apt-get
[02:50] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: and wily
[02:51] <amigoo89> tsimonq2, okay thank you!
[02:52] <Bashing-om> regedit: synaptic is no longer installed by default .
[02:52] <regedit> Bashing-om: ok thanks
[02:52] <uio> Hi I would like to print a document from geany to pdf, but these arrows show up at the end of each line... how could I print without them ?
[02:53] <Bashing-om> amigoo89: Also see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword <- Here are easy instructions to reset your password in Ubuntu .
[02:54] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: wily is supported in #ubuntu+1 .
[02:54] <tsimonq2> gosh darnit
[02:54] <tsimonq2> thank you
[02:55] <amigoo89> Bashing-om: thanks too! All my question got answered (for today) haha! Good night guys
[02:55] <Bashing-om> amigoo89: :) Night nite . See ya next time .
[03:02] <OS_Connoisseur> Wow, it took less time to build my custom kernel than it took to build gcc!
[03:03] <FLeiXiuS>  I have a SAS controller that is no longer detecting hard drives.  Any ideas?  There was a kernel update, reverted that back but its still persisting.
[03:05] <skweek> arg... this sucks... all of my windows are all messed up looking and icons are missing off of stuff...
[03:05] <OS_Connoisseur> screenshot?
[03:05] <skweek> where's a good place to image host
[03:06] <OS_Connoisseur> I use picpaste a lot.
[03:06] <Cernunnos> Hello.
[03:07] <tomc4tt> quit
[03:07] <tomc4tt> exit
[03:07] <OS_Connoisseur> Bad graphics drivers and bugs in Compiz and Unity can cause garbled icons and such.
[03:08] <skweek> I was installing ubuntu 15.04 and the installer crashed I used boot-repair to fix grub, had to set a password using init and single user mode, and logging in looks like this.. sort of http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-10-12_23_06_26-U9xthcQB.png http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-10-12_23_05_48-VdUVhomK.png
[03:08] <skweek> I think so... any idea how to help?
[03:10] <OS_Connoisseur> Well, you're not really supposed to use Linux in single-user mode unless you're repairing stuff.
[03:10] <OS_Connoisseur> Can you log into your regular user account?
[03:10] <skweek> yes, I just had to set a passwd from there
[03:11] <Cernunnos> Looks like there might have been some corruption even
[03:11] <OS_Connoisseur> If the installer crashed, that's another problem.
[03:11] <OS_Connoisseur> It probably didn't finish setting everything up.
[03:11] <skweek> so help?
[03:12] <Cernunnos> Honestly I'd just reinstall
[03:12] <skweek> :(
[03:12] <OS_Connoisseur> Did you get any kind of error when the installer crashed?
[03:12] <skweek> yes but I didn't look at it very throughly
[03:13] <OS_Connoisseur> Yeah, I'd reinstall. I wouldn't use half an Ubuntu.
[03:13] <skweek> do you think I should even bother installing 15.04 again?
[03:13] <skweek> but I just got everything set up :(
[03:13] <OS_Connoisseur> I'd go with 14.04 or 12.04 which will be supported longer.
[03:14] <Cernunnos> Yeeeeah, nothing really special about 15.04 anyways, just update your stuff in 14.04 and you'll be good to go
[03:14] <Cernunnos> If you install 1404 that is
[03:14] <OS_Connoisseur> The LTS releases tend to be more stable, also.
[03:15] <Cernunnos> Which is exactly why I'm using 14.04
[03:15] <Cernunnos> :P
[03:15] <goddard> anyone know how to fix a black screen when switching from intel to nvidia graphics?
[03:15] <goddard> i know it boots to lightdm i can hear the sound
[03:15] <goddard> if i go to the recovery shell and then boot that way i can see lightdm
[03:15] <goddard> but it wont log me in
[03:16] <OS_Connoisseur> goddard: You can Ctr+Alt+F2, and get a textmode shell. Run lsmod to see if the nvidia driver is actually loaded.
[03:16] <cynixx3> goddard, I have no idea but can you Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 to get a login shell?
[03:16] <OS_Connoisseur> nVidia tends to be buggy in general.
[03:16] <goddard> cynixx3: yeah that works
[03:17] <cynixx3> Follow OS_Connoisseur advice.
[03:17] <goddard> cynixx3: i fixed the issue and can switch back to a working intel mode
[03:17] <goddard> but i cant use the nvidia gpu for some reason
[03:18] <Bashing-om> goddard: How did you install the nvidia driver ? might consider purging and (RE-)install the driver from our repo .
[03:18] <lw> life beckons
[03:18] <OS_Connoisseur> goddard, are you using the proprietary nvidia driver or the open-source nouveau one?
[03:18] <goddard> closed source version 352
[03:19] <uio> Thanks !
[03:19] <cynixx3> what were your lsmod results? do you see it in dmesg?
[03:21] <goddard> cynixx3: i dont know what to look for
[03:21] <goddard> cynixx3: a quick glance i see no references to nvidia just intel
[03:22] <goddard> Bashing-om: i installed them via additional drivers
[03:24] <cynixx3> goddard, if you do not see nvidia in lsmod then you may not have the driver properly installed and a reinstall may help. I'm no expert though I fly by the seat of my linux pants.
[03:25] <goddard> cynixx3: well the driver uses the prime-switch program from nvidia
[03:25] <goddard> i know that
[03:25] <cynixx3> :D
[03:25] <Bashing-om> goddard: Might find some hints in /var/log/Xorg.0.log as to what is not going on .
[03:27] <cynixx3> I am curious, would the prime switch program remove the driver from lsmod?
[03:29] <goddard> once upon a time it worked
[03:30] <goddard> i then switch to intel mode and can't switch back
[03:30] <cynixx3> try lsmod |grep 'nvidia\|prime-switch'
[03:31] <cynixx3> lets see if either of those are in there.
[03:31] <goddard> cynixx3: nope
[03:32] <cynixx3> Is there a reason to not reinstall it?
[03:32] <cynixx3> OS_Connoisseur mentioned that nvidia drivers are buggy in general and maybe this is one of those issues.
[03:34] <OS_Connoisseur> Intel has the best Linux support of all major grapics card vendors because their hardware is very well documented. Nvidia likes to keep secrets and leave kernel developers to reverse-engineer stuff.
[03:36] <cynixx3> OS_Connoisseur, can you run two video drivers simultaneously or do you need the prime-switcher goddard has?
[03:36] <goddard> OS_Connoisseur: it is to bad intel graphics aren't as good
[03:36] <OS_Connoisseur> Most Nvidia cards do work fine, so I'd keep trying to diagnose the issue.
[03:36] <goddard> i need cuda
[03:36] <cynixx3> I need reliable hard drives :(
[03:37] <OS_Connoisseur> I don't know. I've never ever used multiple graphics cards in a computer.
[03:37] <cynixx3> Never had a built in mobo card and then gotten a better gaming card?
[03:37] <goddard> I have the Razer Blade 2015 so it is nice to use both if you need to save battery
[03:37] <cynixx3> I thought that was a pretty common issue for techies.
[03:39] <OS_Connoisseur> Well, I have, once, and that was a long time ago when I used multiple monitors on Windows 98 and needed two identical cards to do that. :) I don't know if Linux can do multiple different GPUs simultaneously.
[03:58] <slicepaperwords> is there a faster protocol I need to be using to play video in-between ubuntu machines on my LAN? I'm using SSH SFTP now and even 720 is skipping pretty bad
[03:58] <SiouxPlex> use plex
[03:59] <BadDream> hmmm
[03:59] <BadDream> i wish i could report a bug in here
[03:59] <SiouxPlex> slicepaperwords: I'm using plex and I can stream 1080p
[03:59] <SiouxPlex> across WAN
[03:59] <slicepaperwords> I just upgraded the one plugged into my tv from win7 (everything worked fine) to ubuntu and now it's skipping which is why I think it's just something I'm not using
[04:00] <slicepaperwords> and I'm only worried about my LAN
[04:00] <SiouxPlex> slicepaperwords: are they hard-wired or wireless?
[04:00] <hades08> hi, i need help with apparmor
[04:00] <slicepaperwords> the server is hardwired the laptop is usually wireless which I plug into my tv with hdmi
[04:01] <slicepaperwords> but everything worked with windows 7 for some reason which is why I dont get it
[04:01] <slicepaperwords> otherwise I wouldnt complain and plug it in
[04:01] <slicepaperwords> I haven't heard of plex though I'll check it out
[04:02] <Ben64> don't bother with plex, just hook up a cable to the laptop?
[04:03] <slicepaperwords> okay haha
[04:04] <slicepaperwords> that's not an issue, I was just wondering why it worked on windows but not on ubuntu and if there was something I could do to make it work
[04:04] <[n0mad]> i stream everything from a 8 or 9 year old laptop on ubuntu and never had any problems
[04:04] <[n0mad]> usually multiple streams going on
[04:05] <slicepaperwords> yeah the one I'm using is probably that old, and everything was working fine, it just seemed to correspond to when I put ubuntu on my newer computer, and I am still pretty new so I thought there was something I was missing
[04:06] <Ben64> probably just bad wireless
[04:07] <slicepaperwords> but it was working with windows...
[04:07] <slicepaperwords> ubuntu to windows = fine
[04:07] <slicepaperwords> ubuntu to ubuntu = bad
[04:08] <slicepaperwords> I want to fix it I love ubuntu in every other way
[04:08] <pkh> I set my folks up with an ubuntu machine last time I was home -- nwo they have a problem (meaning they're stuck at the console) and I need to ssh in and have a look. what's the easiest way to get 2 natted machines talking to each other via ssh/other? main issue is simple command on 'server' end so I can talk dada through getting it set up.
[04:09] <hades08> i need to add a rule to allow this :  apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="lxd_lxc_0.19-1" name="/dev/ppp" pid=4896 comm="lxc" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0 somebody could help me ?
[04:11] <cynixx3> pkh, port forwarding.
[04:15] <pkh> cynixx3, I'm dreading the conversation that has me walking him through setting up that on the router -- but if there's no obviuos solutino I'll go that way.
[04:15] <cynixx3> pkh, also if they are stuck at console have them try Ctrl+Alt+F7 for a likely way to get back to the desktop.
[04:15] <pkh> cynixx3, no, it sounds like an update buggered up something -- won't get past the gdm screen
[04:17] <cynixx3> pkh, I understand how that could be a very annoying conversation. Although depending on his router and if it was ever configured you may be able to have him give you their IP address and the Modem key and you could remote into it from that.
[04:18] <skweeke> why does everything have a square dotted line around it?
[04:18] <cynixx3> default settings on a modem/router are always fun to find.
[04:18] <cynixx3> skweeke, what are you referring to?
[04:19] <goddard> cynixx3: same issue afte reinstall
[04:19] <goddard> it is really strange
[04:19] <cynixx3> goddard, that sucks :( you didnt even get to switch once this time?
[04:19] <skweeke> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-10-13_00_18_58-pKIY1lEO.png
[04:20] <skweeke> over on the left conky manager for example it shows these dotted lines on everything
[04:20] <goddard> it acted the same as before
[04:20] <goddard> exactly
[04:20] <goddard> i even tried install version 355
[04:21] <cynixx3> skweeke, No idea where thats coming from except maybe your theme or a stuck button.
[04:22] <cynixx3> goddard, so install went fine, but you can not activate the driver from the switcher? or even the switcher is not activating?
[04:23] <skweeke> hey cynixx3 what do you think could be causing the window to have a clear or transparent http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-10-13_00_22_20-HunBVcnf.png
[04:24] <goddard> cynixx3: no i think it is switching fine
[04:24] <goddard> i just get a black lightdm screen
[04:25] <cynixx3> goddard, so lsmod |grep nvidia has a return now?
[04:25] <goddard> if i go into recovery mode and then "resume boot" i get a lightdm screen but trying to login is just a infinite lightdm screen
[04:25] <skweeke> if anyone has any idea what's going on in this screenshot http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-10-13_00_24_39-BcxXok93.png ... its frickin annoying
[04:26] <hades08> anyone could help me to make a apparmor rule ?
[04:26] <skweeke> ya these dotted lines show up when I click on stuff in firefox
[04:27] <cynixx3> skweeke, so you dont see the dots until you use firefox?
[04:27] <skweeke> no, their in most applications
[04:27] <cynixx3> it looks like its part of your theme, other than that im clueless.
[04:27] <skweeke> they where in the systems shut down log out in unity before I switched to gnome
[04:28] <goddard> cynixx3: i see it
[04:29] <cynixx3> goddard, so your driver is loaded but not working properly. Do you see any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or similar to that)
[04:30] <goddard> cynixx3: what should i search for?
[04:30] <goddard> i got modprobe.d not a file
[04:30] <goddard> update-alternatives error
[04:32] <DDDa> hi
[04:32] <cynixx3> goddard, try something like this grep 'failed\|error\|WW\|EE' Xorg.0.log
[04:33] <cynixx3> goddard, modprobe.d is a program. Maybe you are missing a dependency?
[04:34] <cynixx3> Then again modprobe may have nothing to do with your problem. this file carries a lot of logs.
[04:35] <skweeke> any idea why I can't use keyboard shortcuts?...
[04:35] <aarobc> kdenlive is almost perfect, needs a way to shift all the tracks though
[04:36] <skweeke> sorry I mean like I installed guake a drop down terminal but I cant use shortcuts to access it
[04:36] <goddard> cynixx3: when i type prime-switch nvidia it gives me the modprob.d error and update-alternatives error
[04:39] <Bashing-om> goddard: nvidia-prime did not install ? what retuens ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[04:39] <Bashing-om> returns*
[04:42] <cynixx3> I think you can install modprobe.d with sudo apt-get install module-init-tools
[04:43] <goddard> let me try
[04:43] <abb0> is there any reason to choose 14.04 over 15.04 besides the longer support time? unfortunately i cant stand how far behind some of the packages are on the LTS. is there much diff in 15.04?
[04:44] <goddard> cynixx3: nope i have it
[04:44] <cynixx3> Update-alternatives looks like its apart of dpkg so maybe reinstall that.
[04:44] <goddard> abb0: most everything works with 14.04
[04:44] <goddard> it is super stable
[04:45] <Bashing-om> cynixx3: do ' ls -al /etc/modprobe.d/' <-contains blacklist and conf. files.
[04:45] <Ben64> abb0: longer support time is great though, do you actually need newer packages or do you just think they're better
[04:45] <abb0> yea but i havent heard about 15.04 not being stable tho
[04:45] <abb0> ya know, like overall i havent heard ppl complain about it or the likes
[04:45] <Ben64> well 15.04 support ends in January
[04:45] <Ben64> that isn't stable
[04:45] <abb0> right well, i meant usability
[04:47] <cynixx3> Bashing-om, nvidia driver is loaded but when used give a black lightdm, Xorg.0.log reports it cannot use modprobe.d or update-alternatives. any thoughts?
[04:48] <Bashing-om> cynixx3: My thought is to check if nvidia-prime is installed .
[04:48] <Lim> What is the best way to hide my IP with Linux?
[04:48] <goddard> Bashing-om: it is
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> Lim: proxy,tor,vpn
[04:48] <goddard> cynixx3: i can get lightdm to show up if i go through recovery-mode
[04:49] <Lim> lotuspsychje: How do I setup VPN?
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | Lim
[04:49] <cynixx3> goddard, maybe its a problem with your use paths then.
[04:49] <Lim> Thankx. :)
[04:50] <cynixx3> goddard, echo $PATH & whereis update-alternatives
[04:50] <Bashing-om> goddard: cynixx3 . I am about finished for this session . But I will look see what I can see ; ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .
[04:51] <cynixx3> goddard, work with Bashing-om until he is off for the night.
[04:52] <skweeke> there is something wrong with the theme or window manager or something... I set the mouse cursur to something different and it is only that new mouse icon when i'm in a certian window
[04:53] <goddard> ok one sec
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> goddard: wich grafix card chipset?
[04:53] <skweeke> and icons aren't appearing where they should be.... wtf is going on
[04:53] <smokeless> so i'm using ubuntu on a vps. I just got a message root shutting down now, but I'm the only user, didn't issue a shutdown command.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !details | skweeke
[04:54] <smokeless> I checked last and a user named reboot came up, what's happening here?
[04:54] <smokeless> root login is disabled.
[04:54] <goddard> paste.ubuntu.com/12770698
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: what ubuntu version?
[04:54] <goddard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12770698
[04:54] <Bashing-om> goddard: Look'n .
[04:54] <goddard> lotuspsychje: it is a 970m
[04:55] <goddard> lotuspsychje: specifically it is a Razer Blade 2015
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> goddard: thats an optimus card?
[04:55] <smokeless> trusty
[04:55] <goddard> yeah
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> goddard: install nvidia-prime as Bashing-om suggested
[04:55] <goddard> lotuspsychje: its installed
[04:55] <smokeless> lotuspyschje: 14.04 trusty
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> goddard: did you enable performance mode in nvidia-settings?
[04:56] <goddard> lotuspsychje: i think it is included by default
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: any services running?
[04:56] <goddard> lotuspsychje: ya
[04:56] <skweeke> I went to alt tab and the system icon was a triangle and gears, the usual icon for when an icon is missing, I let go of alt tab and alt tabbed again and the icon appeared properly. when I mouse over into firefox I get a different courser than when I mouse over another window for example software center, I have these dotted lines around some windows but not others http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-10-13_00_55_05-4ZOBkEuE.png ht
[04:56] <skweeke> tp://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-10-13_00_55_11-1Zf1aElG.png
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> goddard: using nouveau?
[04:57] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: apache2, ssh on non default port, smtp rejecting all connections not from localhost
[04:57] <goddard> lotuspsychje: nope
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: got fail2ban installed?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> goddard: wich driver plz?
[04:57] <goddard> 355
[04:57] <smokeless> lotuspsychje yes
[04:58] <goddard> tried 352
[04:58] <Bashing-om> goddard: " (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section." Ya get a config file ? ' ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' .
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> goddard: should work with prime + binary
[04:58] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: the shutdown i'm thinking was issued by my vps, as user reboot doesn't exist on system.
[04:59] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: put in a ticket.
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: sounds like remote takeover trick to me
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: system up to date?
[04:59] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: yes
[05:00] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: if i issue the reboot command in my control panel same user logs in and reboots the machine.
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: talk to the ##networking guys, they might be able to sort that
[05:00] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: thanks.
[05:00] <wafflejock> smokeless: yeah I have reboot on my local system in last
[05:00] <smokeless> wafflejock: yeh it just threw me because I didn't issue a reboot.
[05:00] <goddard> Bashing-om: no no file
[05:01] <wafflejock> right it's strange just saying that part in particular isn't too strange
[05:01] <mario55> mmmm
[05:01] <goddard> Bashing-om: files are there similar with numbers after it and one that says *.failsafe
[05:01] <smokeless> wafflejock: yeh, i have reboot for reboots i issued.
[05:01] <smokeless> wafflejock: and reboot for this time that i didn't.
[05:01] <wafflejock> smokeless: can check /var/log/auth.log manually to see if you can correlate the time when you got the message about the system rebooting
[05:02] <mario55> ciao !list
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> mario55: no warez here
[05:02] <mario55> ciao
[05:02] <Bashing-om> goddard: And also, the plot thickens " 133.755] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) " . does the syen see the hardware ? pastebin ' lspci | grep "VGA\|3D" ' .
[05:02] <smokeless> wafflejock: second
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: sure you have 14.04.3 right?
[05:03] <Bashing-om> goddard: The driver requires the file "xorg.conf" and none other .
[05:05] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: do i need to distupgrade for that?
[05:06] <goddard> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12770804
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: lsb_release -a to check version
[05:06] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: yeh
[05:06] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: it's up to date.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> ok nice
[05:07] <smokeless> wafflejock: auth log is just me.
[05:08] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: i'm thinking my vps just suffered some issue and they had to reboot a portion of their machines.
[05:08] <smokeless> lotuspsychje: but until they answer my ticket i'm in the dark.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> smokeless: could be mate, talk to ##networking their used to this situations
[05:08] <goddard> Bashing-om: any way to generate one with nvidia-settings?
[05:09] <goddard> Bashing-om: i am stuck in the command line
[05:10] <Ademan> my friend just had his apt "break" because his /boot was full, and apt wanted to install a new kernel before fulfilling any other software installations... my question is how the eff did he get a separate /boot partition? This is his first time touching linux at all, is the installer doing this by default these days?
[05:10] <Bashing-om> goddard: Look'm good .. and yes we may be able to generate that file . confirmed that you should use the 353 version . OK.. next show me what is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[05:11] <Bashing-om> 353/352*
[05:12] <goddard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12770923
[05:14] <Twirl> hi, anyone knows how to check if a font is installed in ubuntu?
[05:14] <Bashing-om> goddard: OK, you have the 355 version installed, let's try ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' . and reboot to see the effect .
[05:14] <goddard> Bashing-om: ok i will be back
[05:14] <Bashing-om> goddard: I wait for you .
[05:16] <Twirl> anyone knows how to find out if a font is currently installed?
[05:16] <pi1> @twirl http://ask.xmodulo.com/check-particular-font-installed-linux.html
[05:17] <Twirl> pi1: ty
[05:17] <Twirl> pi1: :)
[05:17] <pi1> let me know if it works
[05:18] <Twirl> pi1: yea it worked perfectly! :D
[05:18] <pi1> nice ;)
[05:21] <goddard> Bashing-om: no luck
[05:29] <Bashing-om> goddard: K. let's purge and reinstall. ' sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup ;sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Reboot .
[05:44] <goddard> Bashing-om: brb
[05:46] <xiaowang> geoip baidu.com
[05:48] <goddard> Bashing-om: same
[05:49] <goddard> Bashing-om: it is super repeatable
[05:49] <goddard> Bashing-om: i can do the same thing over and over again and even switch back to intel to get back into normal desktop mode
[05:49] <Bashing-om> goddard: Sorry then .. lemme turn ya over to lotuspsychje .. see what yall can find .. as it is past my shift .
[05:50] <goddard> Bashing-om: thanks for the help
[05:51] <Bashing-om> goddard: :( no resolution .. but I do trust lotuspsychje . I am done for this session . Getting to tired to think .
[05:51] <goddard> Bashing-om: i do also have intel microcode drivers installed for the CPU
[05:51] <goddard> Bashing-om: yeah its a shame just wanna use CUDA
[05:52] <cihhan> anybody using virtualbox on ubuntu 14? i m having kernel not installed error and couldnt find out a solution yet :(
[05:53] <goddard> i keep getting this message :
[05:54] <goddard> The following packages have been kept back:
[05:54] <goddard>   aptdaemon python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets python3-aptdaemon python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat
[05:54] <Bashing-om> goddard: "ii  nvidia-cuda-dev" having the 'development' version of cuda "might" be an issue ??
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> goddard: you got 331 in your drivers list aswell?
[05:55] <goddard> lotuspsychje: ya
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> goddard: can you try 331 binary + nvidia-prime enabled to performance mode
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> goddard: wich ubuntu version was this?
[06:19] <pharaoh_> how is 1505 so far
[06:19] <pharaoh_> hi ulrichard
[06:21] <linocisco> hi all
[06:21] <pharaoh_> hi
[06:21] <linocisco> I can't install multiget
[06:22] <linocisco> E: Unable to locate package multiget
[06:22] <pharaoh_> what dose it say
[06:22] <linocisco> E: Unable to locate package multiget
[06:23] <pharaoh_> i just tried it with apt-get install multiget and it worked
[06:23] <linocisco> when I do apt-get install multiget, it said E: Unable to locate package multiget
[06:23] <TJ-> !info multiget
[06:23] <linocisco> mine is 15.04
[06:23] <TJ-> linocisco: on what release ?
[06:23] <linocisco> vivid
[06:24] <linocisco> what else I can use to download with resume / pause support?
[06:24] <pharaoh_> am on 1404 lts
[06:24] <Auctus> when i close the calculator i can hear the hard drive doing stuff, seems like a lot for just closing the calculator, anybody know what it does/writes when ya close the calculator?
[06:24] <TJ-> linocisco: It looks like it was removed from the archive after 14.04
[06:25] <linocisco> TJ-, what can you suggest I should use ?
[06:25] <linocisco> TJ-, i used trial version of flarget and downloaded some iso and got incorrect size and wrong md5
[06:26] <linocisco> TJ-, so i thinking to use different mirror and different downloader
[06:26] <pharaoh_> maybe you can just go back to 1404 unless there is something on 15 that you cant do with out
[06:27] <TJ-> linocisco: It was deleted from the archive 2014-08-31 (both from Ubuntu and Debian) since the code is not maintained either upstream (the original developers) or elsewhere
[06:27] <linocisco> pharaoh_, the only thing I tried to use 15.04 is to work well with my Dell Inspiron 3443 which was not ok with 14.04
[06:28] <pharaoh_> oh ok
[06:30] <linocisco> btw, can somebody know how to use USB modem on ubuntu server?
[06:31] <pharaoh_> i have that same problem,
[06:32] <pharaoh_> i tried so many drivers and they did not work, i just settled for wifi hot spot from my phone
[06:32] <pharaoh_> thats actually what am on right now :)
[06:46] <linocisco> pharaoh_, ubuntu desktop has no problem , we can create profile like mobile broadband and APN name and then done
[06:47] <pharaoh_> i have not idea how to do that
[06:48] <pharaoh_> do you have a good tutorial site or something like that i can follow
[06:52] <linocisco> pharaoh_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/468691/usb-mobile-broadband-dongles-in-ubuntu-14-04-where-to-start
[07:16] <lubarch> how to setup ricoh sp111 laser printer ?
[07:16] <abubaker> hi all
[07:18] <lubarch> hii abu
[07:18] <lubarch> 's/abu/abubaker/'
[07:26] <RahulAN> Hi all
[07:26] <RahulAN> is it possible to replace a new graphics driver without killing xserver?
[07:38] <yigal> Why are they so dumb
[07:39] <Guest25126> how to back ubuntu harddisk format
[07:52] <tinyhippo> can anyone think of a way to prevent overscanning via HDMI on my laptop? I've scaled the screen to fit, but it's making my eyes bleed for some reason
[07:55] <kv102t> anyone have 2 mins to point out some vLAN stuff
[07:55] <kv102t> i know it's not ubuntu, but you guys are amazing
[07:58] <theptr> kv102t, i am willing to help you but i am not sure if i can help :) i know not that mutch about it
[08:06] <corner> hello
[08:10] <corner> hello
[08:10] <corner> somebody here?
[08:12] <Ben64> corner: yep, 1738 people besides you
[08:13] <corner> can u help mi?
[08:13] <corner> can u help me?
[08:13] <Ben64> nobody can help you until you ask a question
[08:13] <corner> my mobile manager always disconnect every 3.5 minute
[08:14] <corner> he said that my modem hang up with exit code 16
[08:15] <friendlyguy> hi there! I'm running a ubuntu virtual machine(14.04.3) for mysql on hyper-v with dynamic memory. today it crashed with a out of memory msg "Kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes"
[08:16] <friendlyguy> the vm is far from the maximum value
[08:16] <Ben64> what crashed exactly
[08:16] <friendlyguy> the complete machine
[08:17] <friendlyguy> i still got the kernel panic and the call trace on the screen
[08:17] <Ben64> which machine
[08:17] <friendlyguy> the virtual machine?
[08:18] <Ben64> you aren't sure?
[08:18] <friendlyguy> i am
[08:18] <corner> my mobile manager always disconnect every 3.5 minute
[08:18] <friendlyguy> instead of getting more memory from the hypervisor, it tried to kill processes
[08:18] <corner> somebody can fix that?
[08:19] <zetheroo> is there a way to mount samba mounts on startup without using fstab?
[08:19] <Ben64> friendlyguy: sounds like it didn't get memory fast enough, change vm settings to give it more
[08:19] <Ben64> zetheroo: why not fstab? thats the way to mount things
[08:19] <friendlyguy> is there a log to verify this?
[08:19] <rauldipeas_> zetheroo, You can use gshare a set to startup.
[08:20] <bcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12771920/ I guess that's not good :(
[08:20] <zetheroo>  rauldipeas_: ok thanks
[08:20] <Ben64> bcc: replace cables, change port
[08:20] <Ben64> if that doesn't work, get new drive
[08:21] <bcc> okay will try changing cables
[08:21] <Burps> Hello, I know it's different than ubuntu, but : I'd like to install edubuntu on the hard drive using the DVD, but I'd like to change the mirror during the install (for a local one) : is that possible ?
[08:21] <bcc> but will have to go in same port :( as only got limited amount on the mobo
[08:21] <Ben64> bcc: eh well its unlikely that the port would be bad, the main point is to try to remove all variables
[08:21] <rauldipeas_> zetherro, just install gshare, open gshare-manager from terminal and create a launcher on ~/.config/autostart or /etc/xdg/autostart
[08:21] <bcc> indeed
[08:21] <bcc> will try that first..
[08:21] <Ben64> bcc: cables break all the time, i have a pile of them
[08:22] <rauldipeas_> zetheroo, just install gshare, open gshare-manager from terminal and create a launcher on ~/.config/autostart or /etc/xdg/autostart
[08:22] <Giraffe_> o/, I have two programs/tools named 'sass' on my laptop running ubuntu 15.10; how can I choose which one is on my PATH?
[08:22] <friendlyguy> Ben64: is there any reason why you think its not getting memory "fast enough"?
[08:22] <Giraffe_> atm the CSS one is, not the compiler like I want
[08:23] <zetheroo> rauldipeas_: checking it out now
[08:23] <Ben64> friendlyguy: because it crashed due to not having enough memory
[08:23] <yigal> Ben64: nice going, you know you're trying when that happens
[08:23] <friendlyguy> but it was far away from maximum value, and there is PLENTY of ram free on the host
[08:23] <friendlyguy> like 20gb
[08:24] <Ben64> on the host != on the vm
[08:24] <yigal> friendlyguy: nice 20gb free that sounds like a decent desktop
[08:24] <friendlyguy> actually this machines run a a server
[08:25] <OerHeks> Burps, that is possible, i think, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[08:25] <rauldipeas_> Hey guys, where is the most popular Ubuntu comunity actualy?(to watch news and smothing like that)
[08:25] <rauldipeas_> *something
[08:25] <xStark> I have a laptop with 16gb ram
[08:25] <xStark> But Im chill with 8 gb ram atm
[08:25] <yigal> xStark: but 20+ that's good stuff
[08:25] <xStark> yup
[08:26] <friendlyguy> its a supermicro board with xeon and 32gb ram
[08:26] <xStark> gaming PC?
[08:26] <friendlyguy> so, plenty of power
[08:26] <friendlyguy> server
[08:26] <xStark> Oh, I see.
[08:26] <xStark> I don't really run servers.
[08:26] <xStark> So I have like 16gb ram
[08:26] <yigal> I'm running 64gb but I like code with a lot of memory intensive stuff, it's still good enough
[08:26] <xStark> my old pc has 8gb ram
[08:27] <xStark> I see.
[08:29] <yigal> hmm well let's try to help this genlemean out
[08:29] <eddymens> hy
[08:29] <yigal> eddymens: hello sir
[08:29] <boxmein> ohai
[08:29] <yigal> malahlo
[08:30] <boxmein> I made a .desktop file and where is the normal place to put icons in
[08:30] <boxmein> because holy crap I have no idea
[08:30] <eddymens> my first time on irc
[08:30] <HackerII> put .files in /home
[08:31] <boxmein> I mean an icon for a potentially-globally-reusable .desktop file
[08:31] <boxmein> .........I'll just put it in ~/.icons
[08:31] <boxmein> >_>
[08:31] <OerHeks> boxmein, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[08:32] <boxmein> OerHeks: thanks, but I have that open
[08:32] <boxmein> what i mean is just convention babble
[08:32] <boxmein> where do other apps' desktop files keep their icon files
[08:32] <OerHeks> boxmein, for all users, put it in /usr/share/pixmaps
[08:39] <yigal> the desktop is at /home/$user/Desktop
[08:39] <yigal> So /home/$user/$some_junk will be available there if you so desire
[08:42] <yigal>   oops /home/$user/Desktop/$some_jun
[08:42] <yigal> k
[08:43] <OerHeks> yigal, that would be a personal launcher, global is outside the /home/
[08:43] <yigal> OerHeks: the question asked was how to get something onto the desktop if I'm not mistaken
[08:45] <OerHeks> yigal, yes, and the 2nd part was " potentially-globally-reusable " .. little odd way to say globally/for all users
[08:45] <boxmein> nah I mean
[08:45] <boxmein> a dot-desktop file
[08:45] <OerHeks> correct me if i am wrong
[08:45] <yigal> OerHeks: there you go :)
[08:45] <boxmein> I wanted the dot-desktop file to go into the unity launcher so I can do super-keepass-enter to pop up mono with keepass
[08:45] <boxmein> oh nice split
[08:47] <k1l_> boxmein: you said you have that helppage already open. so read it and follow the instructions
[08:47] <boxmein> k1l_: yes, and so I have
[08:47] <boxmein> I've done all that
[08:47] <boxmein> no more issue :D
[08:47] <guss77> Hi guys, I need help tracking down a DM freeze problem - running wily, updated and rebooted and now when DM starts keyboard and mouse are not responsive
[08:48] <OerHeks> guss77, support for 15.0/wily in #ubuntu+1, untill release this month
[08:48] <guss77> Ok. thanks. going there now
[08:49] <boxmein> if this works I swear
[08:50] <agli> Hey guys, i have Ubuntu 14.10 (utopic), I get a 404  Not Found when i try to do apt-get update. I was checking the Ubuntu archives and there is no utopic in their dist directory, what should i use, vivid?
[08:52] <OerHeks> agli, 14.10 is EOL, upgrade please.
[08:52] <k1l_> oh well. there seem to be a lot of users who just see that their ubuntu is out of support when we shut down the repos.
[08:52] <agli> OerHeks: so that's the reason the repositories are deleted?
[08:53] <OerHeks> agli, yes, for some months now.
[08:53] <k1l_> agli: yes. you should upgrade asap. you dont have any of the latest security updates
[08:55] <agli> thanks guys :)
[08:55] <Naughx> 14.10 isn't an LTS version so it is dead
[08:55] <OerHeks> maybe the serverteam actually deleted the repos this week, there are suspiciously a lot of users with the same issue this week  ..
[08:55] <k1l_> OerHeks: yep. since the WE
[08:56] <Naughx> I think non-LTS releases are only supported for like 9 months
[08:56] <Ben64> correct
[08:57] <Naughx> now they deleted the repository but it wasn't maintained anymore.
[08:57] <k1l_> but that means you need to upgrade every 6 months until the next LTS is reached.
[08:57] <Naughx> or stick to the LTS version
[08:57] <Ben64> more correct statements. i think it was left up so people would get the "15.04 is available, upgrade?" message thing
[08:58] <Naughx> oh
[08:58] <Th13teen> k1l_: upgrading isnt hard though? 14.10 -> 15.04 was seamless, despite all of the crap my install has gone through.
[08:58] <EriC^> maybe it should check if the repos are down and fix the sources to old-releases if somebody wants to upgrade
[08:59] <k1l_> yes, its dead since 23.07.2015  and they kept the repos online so far to let the users do the regular upgrade. now they need to do the EOLupgrade
[08:59] <k1l_> EriC^: well. that way they feel like its still supported
[09:00] <EriC^> k1l_: no, i mean like if they get the pop up to upgrade, if they click on upgrade it uses the eolupgrade for them
[09:00] <EriC^> instead of freaking out and stuff
[09:00] <k1l_> ah yeah
[09:01] <topi`> hi, I need to build a package (modemmanager) with one possible fix patched in. What's my best bet of building it? apt-get source will get the src for me, but is there any tool that recursively installs all the build-depends?
[09:02] <Ben64> topi`: have you checked apt-get --help
[09:02] <Th13teen> would aptitude do that?
[09:03] <topi`> I wonder what "apt-get build-dep" does, the explanation is not clear
[09:03] <theptr> hi guys, i need help with an gpg error
[09:03] <EriC^> topi`: i think that's what it does, it installs everything it needs to be built by the source
[09:03] <topi`> OK, build-dep causes apt-get to install/remove packages in an attempt to satisfy the build dependencies for a source package.
[09:03] <EriC^> ( according to the man page, never used it myself )
[09:03] <topi`> yeah, right
[09:03] <topi`> I'll try it out :)
[09:04] <topi`> 87 MB of new packages will be installed.
[09:04] <EriC^> !checkinstall | topi` this might be handy
[09:05] <OerHeks> i find sudo apt-get build-dep packagename usefull
[09:05] <OerHeks> many ways :-D
[09:05] <deepz0ne> i need help please .
[09:05] <OerHeks> theptr, what error exactly? use paste.ubuntu.com for the error
[09:05] <freezer> What
[09:06] <freezer> What's the best RDP client for Linux?
[09:06] <topi`> ubottu: oh, that's an interesting package. I wonder how it intercepts "make install"'s attempts at copying files all around the fs
[09:06] <theptr> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12772043/
[09:07] <theptr> OerHeks, i use 14.04 Lts server
[09:10] <msl> hello
[09:11] <Commine> hello everybody, first time i using IRC
[09:11] <xahn> thats awesome man
[09:12] <OerHeks> theptr, change mirror, or when the problem persists run: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:14] <Commine> should i compile kernel on kernel.org and install it to my machine
[09:14] <k1l_> Commine: why that?
[09:14] <theptr> OerHeks, How do i change mirror ?
[09:15] <OerHeks> Commine, that can/will cause issues, if you *really* need an other kernel, use the official http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[09:15] <OerHeks> !mainline
[09:15] <theptr> OerHeks, never mind i found it on askubuntu . thanks for your help
[09:16] <OerHeks> this one ?http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[09:16] <bcc> Ben64: drive is broken :'(
[09:17] <bcc> mdadm in raid 5 removed it and all is okay
[09:17] <bcc> better get replacing
[09:17] <theptr> OerHeks, yes
[09:18] <OerHeks> theptr, that will do, remove the landcode & try again.
[09:18] <theptr> OerHeks, there is no landcode in it ... but it looks very empty
[09:19] <Commine> thanks for help
[09:37] <monkeyshout> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rmgsoftware.boredombutton
[09:39] <topi`> ubuntu 14.04 has an ages old modemmanager 1.0.0, how can I upgrade it to 1.4.0? compiling from 1.4.0 source?
[09:39] <topi`> I guess 1.4.0 will depend on newer GLIB/DBUS stuff..
[09:45] <bumbar_> i'm using unity and froze a bit, so i did "unity --replace&" as always, but it logged me off, closing all windows. when was this introduced and what's a proper way to restart unity without logging you off?
[09:46] <Maks85> bumbar, are you serbian?
[09:46] <bumbar_> nope, but am from slo :~
[09:47] <Maks85> can you understand serbian?
[09:47] <bumbar_> a bit
[09:48] <Maks85> i can partially understand slovenian too
[09:48] <EriC^^> bumbar_: setsid unity , used to work, but it resets everything for me now too
[09:50] <bumbar_> EriC^^, thanks, i'll try it next time
[09:50] <EriC^^> no problem
[09:50] <Maks85> have they replaced X server with that thing yet for ubuntu? i forgot how it was called... haven't read much about ubuntu in a while
[09:50] <EriC^^> Maks85: MIR ?
[09:50] <EriC^^> not yet, i think it comes with 16.04
[09:51] <Maks85> yes, i think that was the name
[09:53] <k1l_> even 16.04 will standard the xserver still
[09:54] <EriC^^> oh
[09:54] <EriC^^> will it have unity 8?
[09:55] <k1l_> unity 8 will only run on MIR. so that cant be standard , 16.04 will be xserver with unity7
[09:55] <Maks85> computer related topics became somewhat boring to me as i became older :D i used to read a lot about computers, but there are some topics that are more interesting to me now :D
[09:55] <EriC^^> oh
[09:55] <Maks85> i used to use ubuntu years ago, before i switched to mac
[09:56] <k1l_> http://www.olli-ries.com/t-242d/   for infos on the MIR and unity8 (and snappy etc) roadmaps
[09:57] <EriC^^> thanks
[09:58] <Maks85> are most chatrooms on this server computer related?
[09:58] <jubo2> Maks85: you are meaning the freenode network I assume
[09:58] <Maks85> yes
[09:59] <Myrtti> some are even strictly support-oriented channels, such as this one.
[09:59] <jubo2> Maks85: The original idea of the founders of freenode was to provide free irc network services to the copyleft community
[09:59] <k1l_> Maks85: the focus of this channel here is tehcnical ubuntu support. for other chat please see #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:02] <teelf> Should the "dig" output on a secondary DNS server be identical to a primary DNS server?
[10:05] <OerHeks> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[10:11] <gspe> Hi,I´ve upgraded to ubuntu 15.10 and now I  have some problem with the keyboard layout. Setting an English UK International layout now I am not be able to type accented letters any more. There is someone with the same problem?
[10:11] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | gspe,
[10:11] <cfhowlett> gspe, you "upgraded" to an unreleased beta version ...
[10:14] <gspe> Thank you guys, I know that is beta but  this problem should not happen at 10 days to the release
[10:16] <Guest93706> :^)
[10:16] <Guest93706> can someone help me ;-;
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest93706
[10:17] <Guest93706> how do i make it so that my name shows up instead of guest?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !nick | Guest93706
[10:17] <Guest93706> !register
[10:26] <Guest23382> ...
[10:28] <OerHeks>  
[10:35] <enoch> hi all
[10:35] <enoch> I'm using pure-ftp on ubuntu
[10:36] <enoch> with Unix UnixAuthentication
[10:36] <enoch> i changed user's group, but when i send files using this user it sets the old group on the file
[10:36] <enoch> why?
[10:36] <enoch> should i reset something?
[10:40] <Matvie> hello there, I have a question about something just happened. I was reading the files offline on a very specific topic on my computer. and hours later twitter suggests me users that relate to that exact topic. I had tweets before that only indirectly relate to the topic, but this one is just a 1-1 correspondence. should I worry?
[10:45] <helppp> Help please , when i type my login password , i dont get in the desktop , it just refrech the graphical login , thats all ,and when i type a wrong pass it shows me incorrect pass , so it does recognize my rea password but it doent let me in , please help , i lost access to my docs , i am inthequest session now !!!!!
[10:46] <allizom> Matvie: Which software were you using to read these files? Were you completely offline while doing that? Most web browsers allow local files to do remote requests
[10:46] <EriC^^> helppp: press ctrl+alt+f1, login then type ls -l ~/.Xauthority , see if it says root there, then press alt+f7 to get back here
[10:47] <Matvie> allizom it was Document Viewer for pdf, and libre office.
[10:47] <Matvie> no I wasn't completely offline. I was connected to internet
[10:47] <Matvie> but what request is it that the file does without my knowledge?
[10:47] <helppp> EriC^^> ; but i am in the guest session ,  ok i will do that !
[10:47] <EriC^^> ok
[10:47] <cfhowlett> Matvie, you might want to examine your twitter side settings.
[10:48] <Matvie> cfhowlett, like which ones?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Matvie, every one of them ...
[10:49] <Matvie> well in the security settings there seems nothing checked that might be suspicious
[10:50] <cfhowlett> Matvie, open your browser, go to Twitter and examine carefully what's enabled or not.  then do the same with your ubuntu twitter client settings
[10:51] <helppp> EriC^^ ; yes i would login , and it says there is root , i could even see my docs with ls , please help how do i get it back ?
[10:51] <helppp> could *
[10:51] <allizom> Matvie: where have you got these files? If you downloaded them from a website, maybe that site was embedding Twitter code
[10:52] <EriC^^> helppp: type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.Xauthority
[10:52] <helppp> EriC^^ ; what it does ?
[10:52] <EriC^^> changes the ownership of the file to your user
[10:52] <Matvie> allizom, yes, they have been downloaded from websites. but how does this happen? they were not downloaded recently
[10:53] <resfeeter> Matvie you
[10:54] <helppp> EriC^^; i did that , should i check  ?
[10:55] <allizom> Matvie: Are you using a Twitter client, or the website?
[10:55] <Matvie> allizom, the website
[10:55] <EriC^^> helppp: yeah, try to login
[10:56] <cfhowlett> Matvie, if you logged in to Twitter and did NOT log out, then it's possible (likely) that T captures your browsing info
[10:56] <Matvie> allizom, but the client is allowed access
[10:57] <allizom> so you are using/have installed a Twitter client?
[10:58] <Matvie> cfhowlett, but I don't use the same browser.
[10:58] <Matvie> for twitter and for these downloads
[10:59] <Matvie> allizom, yes
[10:59] <allizom> Matvie: I'd look out for strange behavior in that client then
[10:59] <cfhowlett> pretty sure T programmers have figured out a sway to slurp your foot tracks even with a different browser :)
[10:59] <pque> heu all
[11:00] <Matvie> allizom, but the client is never used, it is just there
[11:01] <helppp_> Eric ; it's fixed , could you tell me what caused that to happen ?
[11:01] <Matvie> cfhowlett, but this is then a clear attack on privacy.
[11:01] <EriC^^> helppp_: did you use sudo startx ?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> Matvie, yeah.  twitter would NEVER do that ...
[11:02] <pque> so I am having trouble installing python PIL on a virtual environment. I need it to be compiled with jpeg suport. On ubuntu 14.04 compilation fails. I think I need to install libjpeg62 and libjpec62-dev but, AFAIK libjpeg8 and libjpeg-8 dev take precedence and I already have them on my system.
[11:02] <allizom> Matvie: doesn't mean anything. Have you ever logged in, in this client?
[11:02] <helppp_> EriC^^: mmm , my bad , yes ! i don't know why , what it does exactly ?
[11:02] <pque> If i try to remove libjpeg 8, it will prompt me to remove hundred of packages, pretty much all my system... why?
[11:03] <Matvie> allizom, yes, but long ago. what is happening? and am I not even going to trust a client that I installed with ppa?
[11:03] <allizom> you don't randomly trust PPAs
[11:03] <EriC^^> helppp_: it starts xserver, but you don't need to use sudo with it or else it will make some files owned by root, also ubuntu isn't made for startx like other distros, it should only be started from the login screen
[11:04] <Matvie> cfhowlett, yes, sure they do that, but it doesnt mean they may, specially if it is really the case for my example
[11:05] <allizom> Matvie: probably the client is running in the background, check it out with System monitor
[11:05] <helppp_> EriC^^ ; i see , thanks a lot man !
[11:05] <EriC^^> helppp_: no problem
[11:05] <Matvie> allizom, no it isn't. I would be shocked if it did, from one session to another.
[11:06] <Matvie> so twitter tracks what I do in another browser. really?
[11:06] <Matvie> that would I guess shake the privacy community, no?
[11:06] <allizom> if the software is really malicious, it could not show up the right way
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Matvie, note:I have NO proof of my suspicion.  but if you had an active login running anywhere on your system ...
[11:06] <OerHeks> Matvie, are you really surprised that twitter and facebook does that?
[11:07] <Matvie> OerHeks, well, if you ask me, I believe behind the walls they develop ways to see our computers to their bowels.
[11:09] <Matvie> cfhowlett, how do you mean the active login?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> Matvie, either your twitter client or browser login
[11:10] <cfhowlett> assuming a breach on YOUR side, those are the most likely vectors.  unless you somehow authorized the file download page ...
[11:11] <Matvie> cfhowlett, allizom: referring to the client, I just also noticed that I haven't connected it to the twitter account after last system reinstall. the client is among the allowed apps on twitter, but the client itself is empty
[11:12] <Matvie> cfhowlett, I have active login, if you mean staying logged in across sessions. but this is only in the browser where I use twitter
[11:12] <cfhowlett> Matvie, and this was a direct login via browser not a Twitter browser plugin?
[11:13] <Matvie> cfhowlett, yes, it was a direct login on the twitter page.
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Matvie, admittedly, it does seem a bit of a stretch to imagine, but I'd suspect Twitter has grabbed your info while you weren't look before I'd suspect a random page had somehow breached me.  Then again, I believe they're all out to get us ...
[11:16] <Matvie> cfhowlett, so they grabbed either via tracking the other browser, or the client, and it seems less likely that it happened via file download?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> Matvie, via a possibly overlooked opt-out option, I imagine
[11:17] <cfhowlett> mind sharing the page url?
[11:17] <OerHeks> Matvie, this all happens serverside, not really an ubuntu issue.
[11:19] <Matvie> cfhowlett, but I searched through settings. I am not technically knowledged about what all these optings may entail, but guess I didn't check anything that would on the surface lead to such breach
[11:19] <allizom> Matvie: there are explanations involving not-so-benign software on your computer, do you only install software from official repos (no PPAs)? Also, do you have browser plugins (as in Flash etc.)?
[11:20] <Matvie> allizom, I do have a few PPAs
[11:20] <Ben64> theres no proof, this has just been 30+ minutes of pure speculation, doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue at all
[11:20] <Matvie> yes, plugins, too.
[11:21] <allizom> Flash is notoriously useful for tracking you across browsers
[11:21] <Matvie> allizom, and twitter can take advantage of it, too?
[11:21] <allizom> Do you have it enabled for every site in these browsers you use?
[11:22] <Matvie> allizom, no, it doesnt exist in the twitter browser
[11:22] <allizom> Sorry, I have no more ideas then
[11:22] <bobbobbins> hi, I installed lightdm but now whenever my machine restarts allI get is a blank screen, does anyone know what I need to do to configure it right?
[11:27] <amaroq> is mono evil?
[11:29] <Matvie> so it is more likely to stem from twitter directly, rather than a ppa or plugin, or a file download process?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> Matvie, working theory only without additional information.
[11:30] <Ben64> more likely its all in your head
[11:30] <OerHeks> fud
[11:30] <Matvie> cfhowlett, yes, I see
[11:32] <ytrewsd> Matvie: yes Ben64:
[11:32] <Matvie> hey, channel admins, there is a troll here with the nick "ytrewsd"
[11:33] <Matvie> he DMed me with profanity
[11:33] <cfhowlett> !ops | ytrewsd DM profanity < matvie
[11:33] <OerHeks> Matvie, join #ubuntu-ops for that, please
[11:35] <Matvie> is it new? admins used to block right away earlier
[11:35] <ytrewsd> Matvie: I didn't curse.
[11:35] <OerHeks> Matvie, only if an OP does not respond :-), but the command from cfhowlett should work too
[11:36] <Matvie> he continues, please do something!
[11:36] <Matvie> do you need an SS or what?
[11:36] <OerHeks> ytrewsd, keep the conversation in this channel, thanks.
[11:36] <OerHeks> !pm
[11:37] <Matvie> he asked nothing he said "fucker" and "piece of shit"...clear enough?
[11:37] <Ben64> don't say that kind of stuff here
[11:37] <Matvie> I didnt say
[11:37] <Matvie> he saif
[11:37] <Matvie> said*
[11:37] <Ben64> you literally just said it here. don't.
[11:38] <theptr> Matvie, keep calm and try #ubuntu-ops
[11:38] <opr> hi, i can't install php5-curl it gets a 404 error when i run apt-get install
[11:39] <Matvie> and what kind of account is this? you dont get a menu when you right click on its nick
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Matvie, also /ingore Nick works on many irc clients
[11:39] <Matvie> theptr there is noone there
[11:39] <theptr> Matvie, in that case use the command from cfhowlett
[11:40] <Matvie> I am not keen to stretch the topic, but is that all you do when a loser disturbs others?
[11:40] <Debb> hello! I'd appreciate any help with this, are there any advantages of using Ubuntu LTS over normal edition or vica versa ?
[11:40] <Matvie> go to ops, noone there, come back, go back..
[11:40] <theptr> Matvie, if you use hexchat like i do i can right click on the user and select ignore
[11:41] <Ben64> Matvie: so go there and report there, don't fill this channel with nonsense
[11:41] <bobbobbins> is there a way to download gdm without all the extra bs that comes with it?
[11:41] <Matvie> Ben64, I have strong nerves, also against obsessed people.
[11:41] <Ben64> bobbobbins: apt-get download gdm
[11:42] <Matvie> Ben64 nonsense is your attitude specially to me, for a while
[11:42] <bobbobbins> Ben64: hmm, I tried that and ended up with all kinds of stuf I didn't need...but I guess if thats the best I can do
[11:42] <OerHeks> bobbobbins, you said you installed lightdm, now you want gdm back, i suggest reinstall, you make a mess of it now
[11:42] <umpfred> i dont understand the autocomplete option with tab. Say I want to cd to VirtualBox, so I type "cd /Vi" and tab
[11:42] <Ben64> Matvie: then stay on topic
[11:42] <umpfred> nothing happens. what am I doing wrong?
[11:42] <Matvie> ...
[11:42] <cfhowlett> umpfred, virtualbox is a program not a directory.
[11:42] <Matvie> I am on topic, bugging other users is off-topic
[11:43] <Ben64> Matvie: talking about someone who PMd you, who already left the channel is not on topic\
[11:43] <OerHeks> Matvie, stop it please.
[11:43] <Matvie> ok, I am being kind, stopping this.
[11:43] <bobbobbins> OerHeks: Yeah, I'll be removing gdm...i had installed it once though and somehow ended up with the entire gnome desktop
[11:44] <Matvie> I'd appreciate if you didnt jump in randomly (and irrelevantly) again
[11:44] <Ben64> then stay on topic
[11:44] <theptr> hi, does anybody has an simple solution to backup a vps ? vps is running ubuntu 14.04
[11:44] <Matvie> have I said "obsessed"?
[11:45] <umpfred> another problem are directories that contain spaces
[11:45] <theptr> i want to take a backup from it so if anything goes wrong i can go back to my basic config
[11:45] <Matvie> yes, something always feels missing if the troll contingent is not filled on a channel
[11:45] <bobbobbins> oops, i meant i'll be removing lightdm
[11:45] <Ben64> Matvie: dude. drop it already
[11:45] <Debb> I think I joined on a bad time
[11:46] <Ben64> Debb: LTS has 5 years support, others have 9 months
[11:46] <cfhowlett> Debb, unless you have xubuntu = 3 years LTS
[11:46] <Debb> yes obviously, but what are the benefits - if any - of using the one over the other ?
[11:47] <Ben64> Debb: just told you
[11:47] <Debb> just that ? no in-depth analysis ? about stability and or upgrade issues etc
[11:47] <cfhowlett> Debb, stable?  yes.  upgrade issues?   not so much.
[11:48] <Ben64> LTS upgrades directly to the next LTS
[11:48] <cfhowlett> Debb,  if you don't upgrading ever 6 - 9 months, go with the interim releases.  Personally, LTS only works fine for me.  YMMV.
[11:49] <jirido> Hi I need some ergent help. I installed ati driver on my laptop(my only comp) and runned aticonfig --initial --inpurfile=/etc/X11/xorg.conf and it installed one file there, but now i cant get it up. How do i revert to opensource driver from promt?
[11:50] <Debb> normal editions come out ever 6 months, while lts every 2 years, are those new things included in lts's supported upgrades ?
[11:50] <Debb> e.g. new drivers
[11:50] <umpfred> how do I use autocomplete to cd to a directory name with spaces on it?
[11:51] <Ben64> Debb: kind of complicated answer to that one... check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[11:51] <cfhowlett> umpfred, you don't.  cd then use your mouse to drop the target location to the terminal
[11:51] <Ben64> umpfred: can either enclose the whole thing in quotes or escape the space with a \
[11:53] <jirido> Again.. I installed ati propertary drivers but dont come true with them.. How do i revert from promt to opencource? Im on the sea and this laptop is al that i have.. so i have hard to check
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:56] <OerHeks> jirido, see this post http://askubuntu.com/a/365638/64683
[11:56] <jirido> Ok if thats to mystery for this chan name me a browser that i can install to use from shell
[11:56] <Debb> i thought you couldnt upgrade kernel until next lts release
[11:56] <cfhowlett> Debb, false.
[11:56] <jirido> Hi BluesKaj
[11:57] <Debb> so if you can, whats the point of using lts anyway ?
[11:57] <Debb> it will be easier to stick to normal edition
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Debb, so do that.
[11:57] <Ingrid> I have just got my first ubuntu laptop and it was an unsupported os, 11 I think, so I upgraded to 14.04 but I did something wrong and now I have no cursor. There were a few custom modifications which I told it not to keep. I backed up the original os but I don't know how to reload it. Please can anyonw advicse?
[11:57] <Ben64> Debb: that doesn't make sense, but do whatever you want
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Ingrid, how exactly did you upgrade to 14.04?
[11:57] <OerHeks> jirido, i'll copy/paste >> Boot into recovery mode, then select to drop to a root shell #Execute mount -o remount,rw /  # then make sure you've fully removed fglrx with:  apt-get purge fglrx -y # and: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf then reboot.
[11:58] <cfhowlett> skip that
[11:58] <cfhowlett> Ingrid, download the 14.04.3 .iso, make a bootable USB, boot the USB and reinstall ubuntu.
[11:58] <Debb> i am just afraid that upgrading every 6 months will cause problems
[11:58] <jirido> OerHeks: Thanks love
[11:58] <Ben64> Debb: so use lts
[11:58] <Ingrid> I had to wait for the system to prompt me, then I let it do it.
[11:59] <lloyd__> I'm trying to figure out how to get my friend's computer to quit telling him that Flash Player is out of date.  He is getting this:  http://imgur.com/VgHKLQA
[11:59] <lloyd__> Any ideas?
[11:59] <lloyd__> Is this some sort of malware or?
[11:59] <Debb> well do lts upgrades include drivers ?
[11:59] <Debb> or at least, can i upgrade drivers manually myself ?
[12:00] <hateball> lloyd__: npapi flash ancient, since adobe dropped support for it. so it's not strange that sites will perform a version check
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !flash | lloyd__,
[12:00] <OerHeks> lloyd__, i would ignore that
[12:01] <Ben64> lloyd__: i don't see that on my browser, maybe you got a weird plugin or something?
[12:01] <Ben64> Debb: define "drivers"
[12:02] <Debb> hardware drivers, e.g. graphics
[12:02] <Ben64> Debb: graphics drivers yeah theres ppas, i think an official ubuntu graphics driver ppa now or soon
[12:03] <hateball> So far it only has nVidia drivers https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[12:03] <hateball> But it works well for that
[12:03] <anil> anyone to help
[12:03] <cfhowlett> !help | anil
[12:03] <bazhang> ask a question anil
[12:04] <Debb> so with lts I will receive driver updates ?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Debb, as has been stated repeatedly: yes
[12:04] <Ben64> Debb: you really need to explain what you mean exactly
[12:04] <anil> how to install adobe
[12:04] <Ben64> for most things, drivers either work or they don't
[12:04] <Ben64> so you don't need updates
[12:04] <cfhowlett> anil, adobe what?
[12:04] <anil> flash player
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !lflash | anil
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !flash | anil
[12:05] <Debb> but there are drivers updates all the time, for example nvidia releases new versions often
[12:05] <anil> lflash??
[12:05] <bazhang> Debb, those are untested
[12:06] <bazhang> Debb, if it warrants, for securitiy or otherwise you will get kernel upgrades, newest firefox
[12:06] <Th13teen> anil: that was just a typo. see the link that ubottu linked.
[12:06] <anil> mmm kk
[12:06] <anil> tq
[12:06] <Debb> but lts doesnt receive kernel upgrades until next lts release
[12:07] <Ben64> Debb: did you read the link i gave you at all
[12:07] <bazhang> if security warrants it debb they do
[12:07] <hateball> So don't run LTS if you want rapid release. Seems pretty simple.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> Debb, absolutely false.  check your facts and your sources
[12:07] <BluesKaj> hi jirido
[12:07]  * cfhowlett is done with this conversation
[12:07] <Rahul__> hi
[12:07] <bobbobbins> Ben64: let me look, I may have missed it
[12:08] <anil> manchester united <3
[12:08] <Ben64> bobbobbins: are you Debb?
[12:09] <bobbobbins> Ben64: no, ubuntu
[12:09] <Ben64> what?
[12:09] <anil> ggmu
[12:10] <bobbobbins> huh?
[12:11] <bobbobbins> oh...duh, I thought you were asking my distro
[12:11] <bobbobbins> no, I'm not deb
[12:11] <Ben64> bobbobbins: i gave debb a link, debb didn't pay attention, i reminded debb, you said you'd take a look, i asked if you were debb, you said you are ubuntu
[12:12] <Ben64> i think that deserves a "what?" for sure
[12:14] <bobbobbins> Ben64: I did what you said and installed gdm, which does what I need it to do, but wth one issue....the mouse disappears all the time when I use it
[12:15] <ubunu> mage bada ridenawa
[12:15] <bobbobbins> (but I didn't install it the way your doc says, I'll try it that way and cross my fingers)
[12:15] <Ben64> my doc says? i didn't give you a doc
[12:17] <Haris> hello all
[12:17] <Haris> what package does the following come with --> #include <freetype/fterrors.h>
[12:17] <bobbobbins> Ben64: man, I'm getting confused, I'm sorry...i thought you sent this for me to look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[12:17] <Ben64> bobbobbins: nope, unless you're Debb
[12:18] <bobbobbins> nope...I thought you were addressing us both at once...please ignore my stupidity
[12:18] <Ben64> Oct 13 2015 04:51:10 <Ben64>	Debb: kind of complicated answer to that one... check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[12:18] <Ben64> your name nowhere to be found in that line
[12:19] <bobbobbins> Ben64: sorry for the mix up
[12:20] <bobbobbins> so now I need to figure out why lightdm gives me a blank screen and why gdm makes the mouse all wonky
[12:22] <ad> !seen ad
[12:26] <Haris> should libfreetype6 contain this header file ?
[12:26] <ioria> Haris which header ?
[12:26] <Haris> --> #include <freetype/fterrors.h>
[12:27] <Haris> how to check what files were installed by a pkg. I have libfreetype6 intalled on a box
[12:27] <Haris> this box has trusty
[12:27] <ioria> Haris do you have this package python-imaging ?
[12:27] <Haris> hmm
[12:27] <opr> Q: hi, i can't install php5-curl it gets a 404 error when i run apt-get install A: run apt-get update, for future ref for anyone here
[12:28] <bazhang> opr, what version of ubuntu are you on
[12:28] <opr> bazhang: some one created by puPHPet for vagrant, im not sure man
[12:28] <Haris> there's no such pkg on trusty ?
[12:28] <ioria> opr apt-cache policy php5-curl
[12:29] <opr> i have solved it, i was just letting you know how ^
[12:29] <Haris> ok. there is
[12:29] <opr> apt-get update
[12:29] <th0m_h3x> hey guys i'm trying to merge 2 hdd's into 1 by using LVM following this guide http://www.htpcbeginner.com/setup-lvm-pool-hard-drive-ubuntu/ , however running pvcreate /dev/sd[ab] gives me "device /dev/sda not found or ignored by filtering" "device /dev/sdb not found or ignored by filtering" i even tried pvcreate /dev/sd[ab] --force to no avail. any ideas?
[12:29] <Haris> how to check what files installed by python-imaging ?
[12:29] <ioria> Haris ls /usr/include/freetype2
[12:30] <Haris> its not there
[12:30] <Haris> the freetype2 dir is not there
[12:30] <ioria> Haris ls /usr/include/freetype
[12:30] <Haris> no dir with the name starting from fr under /usr/include
[12:31] <Haris> pi  python-imaging                                             - Python Imaging Library compatibility layer
[12:31] <ioria> Haris dpkg -l python-imaging ?
[12:31] <Haris> un  python-imaging              <none>             <none>             (no description available)
[12:32] <Haris> was just looking at that
[12:32] <Ben64> Haris: http://termbin.com/3ap1
[12:32] <Haris> python-imaging doesn't come with freetype/fterrors.h
[12:32] <zanzabar> How can I start to troubleshoot mouse problems? Occasionally the mouse will no longer work. The keyboard seems fine most the time.
[12:33] <Ben64> Haris: correct
[12:33] <Haris> does having python-imaging, not require freetype/fterrors.h ?
[12:33] <Haris> for pip builds ?
[12:33] <Ben64> Haris: i only have that file on my system in Steam
[12:34] <Haris> please kindly check what pkg it belongs to
[12:34] <Ben64> its in steam, not a package
[12:34] <Haris> does it come with libfreetype6-2.3.11-1ubuntu2.8 or libfreetype6-dev-2.3.11-1ubuntu2.8
[12:34] <ioria> !info libfreetype6-dev
[12:34] <Ben64> doesn't look like its in ubuntu at all
[12:34] <Haris> that one went over me
[12:34] <Haris> hmm
[12:36] <Haris> I was building PIL on a box, from heroku, that I don't have access to. uploading rapidpro (python) based on it, via git push. heroku toolbelt auto-installs pip mods that are needed by rapidpro, when I do git push to remote. this was part of build errors
[12:37] <Ben64> are you sure it's ubuntu?
[12:38] <Haris> the support guys starts on the support ticket with --> I'm afraid our package list for dyno host is restricted to only the following packages and cannot be changed: https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/cedar-ubuntu-packages
[12:38] <milton> should i install 14.04 or 15?
[12:39] <milton> website recommends the LTS, apparently
[12:39] <beliali2> Hello good people. I need to restrict access to a specific path via the sudoers file for all users. Can anyone help me figure out how to do that or point me in the right direction? I've gotten everything else to work except for this thing where I need to block access to a specific path for all users.
[12:39] <Ben64> milton: there is no 15, install whatever you want though. lts you don't have to upgrade to a new version for 2ish years, non-lts you have to upgrade every 6 months
[12:39] <philinux> zanzabar;~  try borrowing a mouse from a friend yours might be failing
[12:39] <Haris> --> http://pastebin.ca/3195026
[12:40] <Ben64> beliali2: explain what you mean
[12:40] <milton> Ben64: actually i'm thinking to install 15.10 Beta, but i never installed beta ubuntu before. will it be upgraded to stable once it's out
[12:40] <milton> ?
[12:40] <Ben64> milton: yep, but support is in #ubuntu+1 until release
[12:41] <ioria> Haris is here http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/libfreetype6-dev/filelist
[12:41] <milton> thanks be
[12:41] <milton> Ben64 even
[12:41] <Haris> ok. so libfreetype6-dev pkg has that file
[12:41] <zanzabar> philinux: I use it on my main workstation all the time and use a KVM to switch between the two systems
[12:41] <zanzabar> philinux: Works fine on my other machine all day
[12:42] <philinux> zanzabar;~ try looking in the log files
[12:42] <zanzabar> philinux: which log files are for the mouse?
[12:43] <Haris> what ubuntu version has the pkg -> libfreetype6-dev-2.3.11-1ubuntu2.8 or libfreetype6-dev-2.5.2-1ubuntu2.4
[12:43] <Haris> I speculate trusty has the later version pkg
[12:43] <ocean> Haris: you can check at packages.ubuntu.com
[12:43] <philinux> zanzabar;~ open dash and type log then click on syslog
[12:44] <ocean> That site also gives you option to search packages for certain files
[12:45] <Haris> You have searched for packages that names contain libfreetype6-dev-2.3.11-1ubuntu2.8 in all suites, all sections, and all architectures. ----> Sorry, your search gave no results
[12:45] <ioria> Haris lucid
[12:45] <philinux> zanzabar;~ also see this. Scroll down the page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingMouseDetection
[12:45] <Haris> lol. I think lucid is pretty old
[12:45] <ioria> Haris https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/libfreetype6-dev/2.3.11-1ubuntu2
[12:46] <guest-123> Hi using 14.04 when I come back from away after a long time the box to put the password in does not accept input exept Caps Lock key puts the icon in the password box to show Caps is on or off if I press it again  is there a way to make it refresh so it will listen for imput again so I dont have to restart?
[12:46]  * Haris browses for ubuntu releases
[12:46] <Haris> ok. yes, makes sense
[12:46] <Haris> lucid (v10), trusty (v14)
[12:46] <beliali2> Ben64: TBH im not even sure if this is possible, tell me if its not, but what i need to achieve is so that no user on the machine would be able to access the path that I have in mind.
[12:46] <Ben64> beliali2: explain!
[12:47] <Haris> they do have libfreetype6-dev pkg installed. It should contain that file. this build error should not come up
[12:47] <beliali2> Ben64: so that 'cd /path/to/dir' would throw back a permission denied error. Or is that not something I can achieve via the sudoers file?
[12:48] <ioria> Haris check the subfolders ... sometime it creates a freetype subfolder , inside freetype2 , i mean
[12:48] <beliali2> I could try and achieve that with user groups, but I was hoping there's an easy way to do it via sudoers. Now im starting to think that i'm wrong :)
[12:48] <Haris> I'm going to bug heroku support guys to do that on their end. my boxes are ok
[12:48] <zanzabar> philinux: http://pastebin.com/m75wbBab This is the output from connecting via KVM and disconnecting via KVM not sure about any failures
[12:49] <FluffyUnicorn90> Hi
[12:49] <FluffyUnicorn90> Hello
[12:49] <Ben64> beliali2: well you can't do sudo cd so its already solved?
[12:49] <zanzabar> philinux: I see it had an error opening the descriptor file but I don't know much about that
[12:50] <FluffyUnicorn90> lol
[12:50] <FluffyUnicorn90> #ubuntu
[12:50] <FluffyUnicorn90> #ubuntu
[12:50] <FluffyUnicorn90> #ubuntu#ubuntu#ubuntu#ubuntu#ubuntu
[12:50] <FluffyUnicorn90> #ubuntu
[12:50] <FluffyUnicorn90> #ubuntuv
[12:52] <Cernunnos> Hello. ^^
[12:53] <guest-123> Hi using 14.04 come back from away after a long time the box to put the password in does not accept input.. Exept Caps Lock key puts the icon in the password box to show Caps is on or off if I press it again  is there a way to make it refresh so it will listen for imput again so I don't have to restart?
[12:53] <beliali2> Ben64 yeah you're right my question doesn't really make sense. While asking it I thought of a solution to my problem. Thanks everyone.
[12:58] <guest-123> Hi can anyone help with a login problem after coming back from away ?
[13:00] <pbx> guest-123, give more details
[13:00] <guest-123> Hi using 14.04 come back from away after a long time the box to put the password in does not accept input.. Exept Caps Lock key puts the icon in the password box to show Caps is on or off if I press it again  is there a way to make it refresh so it will listen for imput again so I don't have to restart?
[13:01] <theptr> guest-123, and if you press space
[13:01] <Pici> guest-123: if you type in your password and press enter, does it work?  The standard for password prompts on Linux is to not show stars when typing in them.
[13:03] <Cernunnos> How can I fix inconsistencies with the cursor in applications like Skype? I had it fixed before but I sorta messed it up by doing something
[13:03] <guest-123> well when I cam back it had the long line of ***** but can't clear it with Esc or anything only thing is Caps lock ads or removes the caps icon on the end
[13:04] <guest-123> it probably had somthing resting on a key so key repeat enterd somthing without return
[13:07] <guest-123> I was able to do ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a loging and log in with password then went back to gui with ctrl-alt-f7 but still not letting me back into the normal desctop
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 cant enter anything into it
[13:10] <Cernunnos> How do I disable Ubuntu's Guest account?
[13:12] <theptr> guest-123, and a reboot is no option ?
[13:13] <guest-123> well I might have open Doc or things when it happens so would like to get back in if possable restart does go back in fine but then I've lost anything that wasnt saved if I do that
[13:16] <Haris> should soft-linking /usr/include/freetype2/fterrors.h to /usr/include/freetype/fterrors.h or the entire directory (freetype -> freetype2), make build errors go away for pip mods on lucid lts or trusty lts ?
[13:17] <Pici> Haris: pip mods?
[13:17] <Haris> PIL/Pillow
[13:17] <Haris> gcc build errors
[13:18] <Pici> Haris: I'd avoid that if at all possible, is there a reason you can't install the build-dependencies for python-pil? (sudo apt-get build-dep python-pil) ?
[13:20] <Haris> because its not in this list ( https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/cedar-ubuntu-packages ). Heroku boxes are not in my control. And their admins are not willing to modify pkg list from that mentioned on this url
[13:20] <Haris> I just need it for, the build. once the build is done, I don't need the soft link
[13:21] <Matvie> hello, what would be the minimum hardware requirements to be able to use a VM comfortably (i.e. without slowing down the system) ?
[13:22] <ishwon> Matvie: depends on what you want to run on the VM.
[13:22] <c355E3B> Is there a way to force the mirror:// option to pick a diffrent mirror?
[13:22] <Pici> Haris: You can try it, but I doubt it will work.
[13:22] <ManiacRobert> .info
[13:22] <Matvie> ishwon, usual programs..nothing too demanding, no gpu-intensive application
[13:23] <k1l_> Matvie: and what OS? what desktop?
[13:23] <Matvie> k1l_ ubuntu
[13:23] <Pici> /36/36
[13:23] <deltacourps795> hello noob here
[13:23] <Matvie> I guess unity must be the desktop, right?
[13:23] <k1l_> Matvie: yes
[13:24] <ishwon> @Matvie then I'll suggest at least 2GB memory and same number of vCPUs as number of cores the host has.
[13:24] <Matvie> ishwon, what is vCPUs, or how can I find out how many they are?
[13:24] <ishwon> I tried Ubuntu 14.04 Unity desktop on 1 GB memory and 1 vCPU VM but the performance isn't that good.
[13:25] <ishwon> If your host is Ubuntu, do the following: grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l
[13:25] <Matvie> I earlier tried on 2gb and it was still not good
[13:25] <k1l_> think about giving the vm enough video ram too
[13:25] <ishwon> You'll get the number of cores.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> deltacourps795, Ms. Cleo has the day off.  To get help, you must actually ask a question.
[13:25] <Matvie> k1l_ how do I allocate that?
[13:26] <k1l_> Matvie: in the settings for the VM
[13:26] <Haris> thank you all
[13:26] <Matvie> k1l_ ah, I see
[13:26] <Matvie> ishwon, yes, they are the same numbe
[13:26] <Matvie> r
[13:27] <guest-123> I can log into tty1 and put in username and password from there is there a way to make lightdm start listening again withought losing my current session
[13:28] <deltacourps795> any one in the raspberry pi 2?
[13:28] <Pici> guest-123: hmm.. in the past you used to be able to kill the screensaver process, but I'm not sure that is still a valid answer.  I don't use a desktop all that much these days.
[13:28]  * Nicholas thinks using windows is like handing over ur car's steering wheel to a monkey 
[13:28] <Matvie> and would you recommend any particular VM ?
[13:28] <k1l_> Matvie: virtualbox is most user friendly for the start
[13:29] <guest-123> thanks for your input anywat pici im new to ubuntu and just dont know where to look to get the answers I need yet
[13:30] <fwef> Hi, I cannot change my volume with a keyboard shortcut. xev correctly recognizes XF86AudioLowerVolume and XF86AudioRaiseVolume being pressed but nothing happens. Any clues on what might be going on?
[13:30] <deltacourps795> im trying to overclock
[13:31] <Dumle29> So I'm having some issues with ubuntu boot a lot slower than I'd expect, considering it's on an SSD. I made a quick video to explain the things, and show the boot process, as I found it a lot easier to cover everything this way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUXLZ4EQ4kU
[13:32] <Matvie> ishwon, k1l_ thank you for your help :)
[13:35] <guest-123> Does anyone know how to restart lightdm to get it listening again without lossing my current session?
[13:35] <elliv> installing on 1 big partition, bad idea?
[13:35] <jayjo> I need to send an email report of my cron job executions (success or failure) a few times a day, but I don't have root access on the machine I need to send from so I can't install an MTA or actually almost any piece of essential software. Can I configure cron to log somewhere specific (instead of dead.letter, because I have nothing set) and then just send that document to myself a few times a day from a pyth
[13:35] <jayjo> on script?
[13:36] <c355E3B> jayjo: can your commands just not write out to a common log file?
[13:36] <jayjo> c355E3B: Do you mean just have my scripts log, instead of writing the STDOUT ?
[13:36] <leolove> Hi. I am trying to login to live boot from a usb. Username: ubuntu, pass: blank. The screen goes blank for a second as if it is logging in, then comes back to same username screen. How to resolve it?
[13:37] <yotam> Hi, how can I install rpm.gz file on Ubuntu?
[13:37] <c355E3B> jayjo, yeah or just redirect the stdout to file
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !rpm | yotam
[13:37] <leolove> also tried creating new user by going to CLI but in vein.
[13:40] <yotam> ubottu: The problem is that I have rpm file that I need to install, there is no deb file
[13:41] <cfhowlett> yotam, doesn't change the answer.  rpm is not deb.  you can try alien but, as noted, it's not supported.
[13:41] <Pici> yotam: what is it that you are trying to install?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> yotam, perhaps virtualbox + redhat type OS + your rpm?
[13:42] <yotam> Saba
[13:43] <jayjo> Currently I'm just running java apps and python scripts. They are launched from Cron, can I append to a file in a shell script? Now the cron job executes a shell script that launches the appropriate script. So in my shell script do I output to the file I want with python myScript.py > "/path/to/my/dir/" 2&>1
[13:45] <yotam> cfhowlett: So the only option is to use a VM? Kinda annoying :(
[13:45] <christo_m> hello, im trying to follow these instructions: https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta to get chromium t owork with netflix
[13:45] <Pici> yotam: I'm not familiar with that, do you have a link to their documentation?
[13:45] <cfhowlett> yotam, what did you expect?  rpm is for redhat.  redhat ain't ubuntu.  no surprise your package won't fly.
[13:45] <christo_m> ive followed the instructions and the origin of the patch from this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1371274 .. i copied over the widevine libraries but chrome://components does not show a widevine component loaded
[13:46] <cfhowlett> yotam, have you tried "alien"?
[13:46] <Pici> yotam: nevermind, I think I found it.
[13:46] <yotam> I'm trying it right now
[13:46] <yotam> It created debian, etc and usr folders
[13:48] <note> Hi, I've found a bug in current Ubuntu 15.04, if you press the laptop power button then Ubuntu presents you with a chooser with options to suspend, lock, shutdown, etc. ("Hi ... you have some open files you might want to save...") However if you're slow or were thinking about something (like I was) after ~20 secs Ubuntu shuts down without warning you! Is this bug already known?
[13:48] <christo_m> haha, you thought about life for 20 seconds eh
[13:48] <Pici> note: I think I recall hearing about it, but you'll need to search on launchpad to be sure
[13:49] <christo_m> got philosophical about shutting down
[13:49] <note> Pici what's the URL?
[13:49] <jayjo> If I run "python myscript.py /home/ubuntu/testing.txt 2>&1" will this append to the file?
[13:50] <christo_m> no one here has gotten chromium to work with widevine for netflix?
[13:50] <Pici> note: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[13:51] <Pici> jayjo: no. That calls myscript.py with the argument /home/ubuntu/testing.txt and then redirects stderr to stdout.
[13:51] <OerHeks> christo_m,  netflix works great with chrome, i couldn't get it working with firefox/chromium/opera
[13:51] <jayjo> ugh meant "python myscript.py > /home/ubuntu/testing.txt 2>&1"
[13:52] <Pici> jayjo: yes, that will redirect all output to /home/ubuntu/testing.txt
[13:52] <jayjo> OK, but I need to append, so I just need >> instead of >
[13:52] <jayjo> is that what those operators do?
[13:52] <Pici> jayjo: correct
[13:53] <jayjo> OK great, thanks for your help
[13:53] <kid123> yeah, i also used to have problems with running netflix on chromium but chrome worked fine.
[13:54] <Hercules> Hello, I want to dual boot ubuntu with windows 7?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> chrome has it's own embedded flash pugin
[13:54] <Hercules> Can anyone help me ? I don't want to lose my data.
[13:54] <christo_m> OerHeks: ya i know but im working on something where we have to distribute the browser
[13:55] <christo_m> OerHeks: i dont think i can distribute chrome whereas chromium is open source
[13:56] <cynixx3> Hercules, Thats a fun project. but there are lots of really good tutorials out there for it.
[13:56] <kid123> christo_m: but wont copying packages from a closed source chrome void the open source nature of chromium
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hercules, what OSs do you have installed on your machine?
[13:56] <Hercules> BluesKaj> Win7
[13:56] <Hercules> cynixx3> I am afraid of those tutorials, I don't wanna lose my data.
[13:57] <christo_m> kid123: no, widevine has separate licensisng
[13:57] <christo_m> its a DRM plugin.. i guess its kind of like mp3 or something
[13:57] <elliv> What's the cons for just partitioning my HDD as 1 big 500GB for the root "/", and install my linuxthere, without having to fuss over how big I should put on this "/home" "/"
[13:57] <cynixx3> Hercules, why are you afraid of tutorials?
[13:57] <christo_m> where you need licensing to include the mp3 codecs
[13:57] <k1l_> Hercules: you can loose your data anytime due to hardware disk failure. so if you are that concerned than better make a backup asap
[13:57] <Hercules> cynixx3> I don't wanna lose my data in anyway
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Hercules, ok , do you have a regular BIOS ? I assume you do if the pc came with W7 installed
[13:57] <Hercules> k1l_> I have the backup of the most important data.
[13:58] <Hercules> BluesKaj> It came installed but I reinstalled it several times.
[13:58] <k1l_> Hercules: then follow the official howto.
[13:58] <cynixx3> Hercules, setting up dual boot carries a lot of risk. I would suggest a full backup AND a windows 7 rescue disk before proceeding.
[13:58] <Hercules> k1l_> Can ya gimme link?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> ok , too many cooks
[13:59] <OerHeks> christo_m, even chromium should be downloaded, it is not on the dvd either.
[13:59] <k1l_> Hercules: shrink the windows with the windows built in settings, then run the ubuntu installer and create the partitions and install ubuntu there
[13:59] <k1l_> !dualboot | Hercules
[13:59] <christo_m> OerHeks: ?
[13:59] <christo_m> OerHeks: im not distributing ubuntu or anything like that
[13:59] <Hercules> k1l_> Oh
[14:00] <christo_m> my original problem was to get it to work in node-webkit.. i couldnt get that working even after recompiling with widevine support
[14:00] <christo_m> so now im trying just chromium.. node webkit actually uses chromium as the web engine
[14:00] <pbx> anybody know of a utility like this for ubuntu? auto-sets things like default print etc. based on fuzzy detection of where you are (e.g. by wifi router name). http://www.controlplaneapp.com/about/
[14:00] <christo_m> and now i cant get this working either apparently
[14:02] <note> Thanks Pici, I tried "shutdown dialog" and "shutdown menu" to no avail. I only found this, though it's not exactly what I mentioned: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1256703
[14:02] <OerHeks> christo_m, seen this old post? it might been changed in the meantime http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pipelight-brings-widevine-support-for.html
[14:02] <OerHeks> i couldn't get it to work, so that is it.
[14:04] <christo_m> OerHeks: i know about pipelight
[14:04] <christo_m> http://pipelight.net/cms/chrome-chromium.html the problem is that NPAPI is getting phased out for PPAPI
[14:05] <kid123> Hercules: follow the official documentation but if that is not enough, you can follow this more detailed how-to -> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-7-ubuntu.html
[14:09] <christo_m> OerHeks: can you test this: https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta
[14:09] <christo_m> can anyone test this, i just cant seem to get it to work
[14:10] <jayjo> What does := not found mean in a shell script?
[14:11] <OerHeks> christo_m, no,  i am not going to install some beta from some ppa.
[14:11] <jayjo> oops, =:
[14:13] <christo_m> OerHeks: sounds mean
[14:14] <bazhang> set up a vbox test it yourself christo_m
[14:14] <Kazama> hello
[14:14] <Kazama> i am kazama
[14:14] <Kazama> i'm new to ubuntu
[14:15] <Kazama> hello katie
[14:15] <Kazama> hello cobradabest
[14:15] <bazhang> ubuntu support question Kazama ?
[14:15] <cobradabest> Can someone help me? I'm trying to install something, and I keep getting "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"...
[14:15] <Kazama> nah, no problem at the moment
[14:16] <Kazama> google help me a lot haha
[14:16] <bazhang> chat in #ubuntu-offtopic then Kazama
[14:16] <k1l_> cobradabest: put all the output into a pastebin and show the link here
[14:16] <christo_m> bazhang: i did test it myself. lol
[14:16] <christo_m> bazhang: thats the problem.. i tested it and i cant get it to work
[14:16] <christo_m> so im wondering if someone else can
[14:16] <Kazama> oh okay bud
[14:16] <Kazama> thanks
[14:17] <bazhang> christo_m, contact the maintainer then, we dont support or test ppa
[14:17] <christo_m> outcha go
[14:18] <cobradabest> christo_m: here, it's the same output if I run apt-get at all, regardless of command: http://pastebin.com/jpbHngCh
[14:18] <BluesKaj> install chrome
[14:18] <christo_m> cobradabest: lol what?
[14:18] <christo_m> BluesKaj: i already explained i dont want to use chrome
[14:19] <jayjo> from a shell script I have $FILE1 = "/home/ubuntu/scripts/email_log.txt", but when I run the script (sh myscript.sh) it says file not found. How do I look into this further? It's there definitely, -rw-rw-r--
[14:19] <cobradabest> christo_m: Hold on, I'm going to try restarting my PC and see if that fixes the problem.
[14:19] <k1l_> cobradabest: please pastebin a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[14:20] <jayjo> Oh, can the file not exist? How do I write to a file that exists as opposed to creating that file
[14:20] <christo_m> cobradabest: lol what
[14:20] <note> Pici, I've filed a bug on this launchpad about this, do you know what I can expect? Thanks
[14:20] <BluesKaj> christo_m, ok, bang your against the wall if you must ,chromium is still not going to work  with netflix
[14:20] <christo_m> BluesKaj: don't be like that :(
[14:21] <BluesKaj> it's true
[14:21] <christo_m> BluesKaj: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/watch-netflix-video-in-your-chromium-browser-this-time-for-real/
[14:21] <christo_m> no its not
[14:21] <christo_m> outchya go
[14:21] <BluesKaj> 'no matter is it worth the trouble ?
[14:21] <christo_m> yes
[14:21] <christo_m> my use case is specific and crucial
[14:22] <Pici> note: I'm not sure you can expect a fix for 15.04 this late in the cycle, but a fix might make it in for 16.04
[14:22]  * BluesKaj rolls eyes
[14:22] <christo_m> BluesKaj: yes im sure you have to notify the whole channel about that
[14:22] <Pici> note: also, it might make sense to find a 15.10 user and see if they have the same issue, perhaps this was already fixed (since I do remember hearing something about it)
[14:22] <note> Oh okay. Though do you think this is a legitimate bug in behaviour?
[14:22] <Pici> note: yes.
[14:22]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[14:23] <christo_m> BluesKaj: lol
[14:23] <note> Pici, FYI here is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1505698
[14:23] <christo_m> ya trust this isnt some ocams razor shit
[14:23] <cobradabest_> Well, restarting my PC didn't help the problem.
[14:23] <cobradabest_> Can somebody PLEASE help me?!
[14:24] <k1l_> cobradabest: please pastebin a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[14:24] <bazhang> no cursing here christo_m
[14:25] <cobradabest_> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/jpbHngCh
[14:25] <snakehips_> people I come in peace from debian
[14:25] <snakehips_> I want to SOLVE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL
[14:25] <snakehips_> we need some money now for you using our source code peeps
[14:26] <k1l_> snakehips_: troll somewhere else, kkthxbb
[14:26] <christo_m> bazhang: outcha go
[14:26] <ghoti> Anybody willing to help me understand how to solve a makefile problem? I have a bunch of *.inc files and a template, and a script which merges the .inc files into the template. I want to define targets as the basename of the inc file.
[14:26] <christo_m> k1l_: hey thats great man
[14:27] <christo_m> i thought it was kkthxbai, but now its bb
[14:27] <ghoti> If I define "STUBS=one two three", I was thinking I'd specify a target, "all: $(STUBS).out", then "%.out:\n\t$(MERGE) $(@:.out=.inc) $@". But this doesn't work, because the $(STUBS).out doesn't expand into "one.out two.out three.out".
[14:27] <ghoti> How do I do this?
[14:27] <selmir> hello
[14:27] <BluesKaj> snakehips_, talk to canonical/Mark Shuttleworth
[14:27] <Dumle29> thought it was kthxbai
[14:27] <selmir> your credit card is unlocked say goodbye money!!!
[14:27] <Dumle29> Anyone think they could help me figure out why my linux OS boots very slowly, especially considering its on an SSD?
[14:27] <Pici> ghoti: this is very likely a better question for @bash
[14:27] <Pici> er, #bash
[14:28] <ghoti> Pici: er, no, this has nothing to do with bash.
[14:28] <cobradabest_> ...can someone help me with my problem?
[14:28] <selmir> what is ?
[14:28] <selmir> your problem
[14:28] <Pici> ghoti: is that perl? I need some more caffiene...
[14:28] <somsip> cobradabest_: you've already been told to paste your sources list
[14:28] <k1l_> cobradabest_: its the PPA that is shipping a wrong package. so talk to the PPA maintainer or get rid of it with ppa-purge
[14:28] <cobradabest_> I did, I linked it.
[14:28] <ghoti> Pici: I said on the first line that it was a makefile.  Gmake.
[14:28] <somsip> ghoti: if it's C, try ##c
[14:29] <Pici> ghoti: oh, sorry, I'm very decaffinated today.
[14:29] <ghoti> There is no #gmake.
[14:29] <somsip> cobradabest_: do you did - I missed it. My bad
[14:29] <somsip> *so
[14:33] <cobradabest_> Oh, nevermind, I purged the program I was trying to install and reinstalled it, and it worked.
[14:33] <cobradabest_> Well, thanks anyway, guys!
[14:35] <Captonjamason_> what is the name of the disk partitioning program thats on the live cd
[14:35] <Captonjamason_> not gnome-disks
[14:35] <Captonjamason_> the other one
[14:36] <bazhang> gparted
[14:36] <Captonjamason_> thank
[14:36] <Captonjamason_> :)
[14:45] <Captonjamason_> do you know how i can rezize a partition
[14:46] <BluesKaj> !gparted | Captonjamason_
[14:46] <Captonjamason_> Yes, i know, i mean inside of gparted
[14:47] <kid123> you can use th gparted applicationand its a matter of dragging the resize bars
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Captonjamason_, a partition with data or empty?
[14:47] <Captonjamason_> its not letting me kid123
[14:47] <Captonjamason_> i cant drag
[14:47] <k1l_> Captonjamason_: right click on the partition.
[14:47] <Captonjamason_> okay
[14:47] <k1l_> Captonjamason_: you cant resize the ubuntu partitions while you run ubuntu. you need a live cd/usb for that
[14:48] <Captonjamason_> oh
[14:48] <Captonjamason_> *facepalm*
[14:48] <kid123> :)
[14:48] <Captonjamason_> i havent used ubuntu since
[14:48] <Captonjamason_> well, january
[14:49] <kid123> when you asked the first question, i assumed you were already in the live cd env
[14:49] <Captonjamason_> nope
[14:49] <Captonjamason_> compleatly forgot i need to be in the live cd
[14:49] <Captonjamason_> welp
[14:49] <Captonjamason_> i have the live usb that i used to install it in so here goes nothing
[14:50] <mutilator> does anyone know how to increase the space on a file thats loop mounted? i tried padding the file but it doesnt work
[14:51] <asarch> What happen when your lap run out of power and the "apt-get -y upgrade" process is in the middle of a "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.19.0-30-generic" process?
[14:51] <asarch> How could you resume the process?
[14:53] <OerHeks> mutilator, logically you need to unmount it first.
[14:54] <OerHeks> asarch, try: sudo apt-get install -f
[14:54] <k1l_> asarch: run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" again
[14:54] <OerHeks> if the packages are downloaded, the -f will work i guess.
[14:57] <jthayer> exit
[15:04] <phonzbm> Does anyone here know automake/autoconf well or is able to point me to a channel where I can get some help?
[15:08] <Pici> phonzbm: I'd start in #autotools
[15:09] <phonzbm> Thanks @Pici
[15:09] <phonzbm> :)
[15:15] <Kazama> my xchat closed by itself when i try to open file transfer list
[15:16] <Kazama> what's happen?
[15:16] <jch2os> I'm having an issue with 14.04 LTS on my firewall and passive ftp not working.  In 12.04 I just needed to modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp and ip_nat_ftp.  In 14.04 it seems to use nf_nat_ftp and nf_conntrack_ftp.  They are loaded, but passive ftp doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[15:16] <Guest52939> I have been using ubuntu for 3 years now, I like it but would like to try something new, any ideas?
[15:17] <cobradabest> Linux Mint is really good, although it causes kernel panics with some GFX cards.
[15:17] <k1l_> Guest52939: try some other flavors like kubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu mate,... (since you ask in #ubuntu)
[15:17] <plytro> Guest52939: Gentoo
[15:17] <cobradabest> Does anyone know how to get Android studio working on Ubuntu 15.04? It won't run at all for me...
[15:17] <jch2os> ugh gentoo
[15:18] <plytro> sorry, how about http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[15:18] <jch2os> that is a jump from ubuntu to linuxfromscratch
[15:18] <freezer> how about crkacwh0te.com
[15:18] <k1l_> !ot | plytro cobradabest Guest52939
[15:19] <jch2os> mint linux could be an easy jump
[15:19] <pbx> what k1l_ said
[15:19] <plytro> k1l_: I was responding to a question
[15:19] <freezer> sorry :p
[15:19] <plytro> in a sarcastic/slightly humorous manner
[15:19] <plytro> sorry if that was lost on you
[15:19] <Pici> Feel free tod iscuss other distros in ##linux
[15:20] <plytro> oh wait, shit I'm off topic again, talking about feelings
[15:20] <Guest52939> ufw should be all i need to be secure on a school network?
[15:21]  * plytro puts on the serious about ubuntu support hat
[15:22] <BTJustice> Is there a way to place shortcuts on the desktop to websites and the images the shortcuts use are the websites' favicons?
[15:26] <OerHeks> BTJustice, with unity tweak you can enable that, icons on desktop, and you can make custom launchers, and put your own icon in it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[15:27] <asarch> Thank you OerHeks, k1l_
[15:27] <asarch> Thank you very much :-)
[15:27] <OerHeks> BTJustice, Exec=xdg-open [URL HERE]
[15:27] <BTJustice> Cool.  Thank you.
[15:32] <BTJustice> Hmmm.  I'm overlooking something...
[15:32] <BTJustice> [Desktop Entry]
[15:32] <BTJustice> Encoding=UTF-8
[15:32] <BTJustice> Name=Facebook
[15:32] <BTJustice> Type=Link
[15:32] <BTJustice> URL=https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr
[15:33] <daftykins> !paste | BTJustice
[15:34] <zerowaitstate> does anyone know how to get X to work on a MacBook?
[15:34] <BTJustice> http://pastebin.com/GHRGTERt
[15:34] <FiremanEd> Clearing the commands in terminal is history -(what letter)?
[15:34] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: X? as in you've installed ubuntu... but?
[15:35] <alexander_> есть русские
[15:35] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: outline what you've actually done, please.
[15:35] <daftykins> !ru
[15:35] <BTJustice> FiremanEd: I just delete '.bash_history' file in my home directory.
[15:36] <FiremanEd> ok, thanks, much apprecitated
[15:36] <BTJustice> np
[15:36] <zerowaitstate> I have a MacBook that I am dualbooting in Lubuntu. Everything is fine until X loads (for the user login screen). I get a blank screen when X comes up. Switching into a text vty (via ctrl-alt-f1) and looking at the X log says that it can't find module fglrx, which I guess means the Radeon drivers weren't installed
[15:37] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: no that's normal as fglrx won't be installed as standard, which model mac is this? do you still have OS X on?
[15:38] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: 2011 MacBook Pro.  Yes, it still as El Capitan on it. Chainloading GRUB from REFInd
[15:39] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: ok, can you boot to a terminal and install 'pastebinit' then share "lspci | pastebinit" than "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[15:40] <OerHeks> BTJustice, the icon must be on your machine, described in the tutorial, and 'URL=https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr" is not needed ( i haven't seen that anywhere)
[15:40] <zamba> i need to mount an usb disk completely read only in ubuntu.. no data or anything should be written to it.. how can i do that?
[15:41] <zamba> in other words.. the disk shouldn't be auto mounted
[15:42] <daftykins> zamba: once, or every boot?
[15:42] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12773779/
[15:43] <zamba> daftykins: just once
[15:43] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: this is not what i asked for
[15:43] <BTJustice> OerHeks:  Damn.  I was hoping it could pull remote images assuming Internet is available.
[15:43] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12773786/
[15:44] <daftykins> zamba: so identify the file system, device name and partition number with "sudo parted -l" then you can run "sudo mount -t <file system> /dev/sdx# /mnt -o ro,uid=1000,gid=1000
[15:44] <zamba> daftykins: first and foremost i want to prevent ubuntu from automounting it
[15:45] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: Xorg log http://paste.ubuntu.com/12773806/
[15:46] <daftykins> zamba: no ideas on that one, you can unmount it in nautilus if you use full ubuntu
[15:46] <daftykins> then follow my above command
[15:46] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: ok so it's a system with both intel + AMD hybrid graphics
[15:46] <zamba> daftykins: i guess it's too late then.. but ok.. thanks :)
[15:46] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: dpkg -l | grep fglrx | pastebinit
[15:47] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: there's nothing there
[15:47] <daftykins> good stuff, that's what we needed to know
[15:47] <daftykins> !hybrid
[15:47] <daftykins> ugh
[15:49] <EriC^^> !optimus
[15:50] <daftykins> wow that's an old factoid :) but nah, intel+AMD hybrid today :D
[15:50] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: ok, i think you need to install the latest fglrx you can get your hands on
[15:50] <EriC^^> :D
[15:50] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: how do you do that from command line?  Is it in the base repo's, or do I need to enable another repository?
[15:51] <daftykins> you can try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates"
[15:51] <daftykins> i don't know how OS X handles those switchable graphics setups though, whether it has you pick between - whether there's a button on top...
[15:55] <sppp> hey
[15:55] <sppp> has anyone here used ufw with ipsets ?
[15:58] <daftykins> sppp: that's a more relevant a query for #ubuntu-server and ##networking i would say
[15:58] <daftykins> -a
[15:58] <someguestname> Are there known problems with the repos? I'm on 14.10 and I 404 not found on everything when I apt-get update. Switched from local server to main, no difference.
[15:59] <EriC^^> someguestname: 14.10 is eol now
[15:59] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | someguestname
[15:59] <genii> !eol
[15:59] <someguestname> Right, but the old stuff should remain, right?
[15:59] <daftykins> someguestname: no
[15:59] <genii> someguestname: They archive EOL repos
[15:59] <k1l_> someguestname: update to 15.04 asap. you dont get any security updates anymore
[16:00] <someguestname> I don't care about security updates. I just wanted to install a text editor. But all right. Thanks all.
[16:00] <k1l_> someguestname: if you dont want to upgrade every 6 months stay on 14.04 LTS.
[16:00] <daftykins> someguestname: that's not a very wise way to use any kind of computer you use online.
[16:01] <daftykins> don't buy anything whilst online with that :)
[16:01] <Guest23621> Hey guys, I disabled open source drivers to test proprietary AMD drivers, goofed up... now it says that xorg can't start (Seg faul at address 0x0) and the logs say that it can't load module fglrx
[16:02] <Katielyn> The best Internet security is just to remove the Internet.
[16:02] <EriC^^> someguestname: is it an offline pc, or testing thing or something? you can still use the repos but you should upgrade if you can and use it online
[16:02] <daftykins> Guest23621: sounds like they didn't install
[16:02] <EriC^^> Guest23621: did you install the amd drivers?
[16:03] <Guest23621> I"m reinstalling fglrx now
[16:03] <daftykins> Katielyn: still not safe due to flash drives
[16:03] <Guest23621> If I start fglrx it just goe to a black screen, with nothing
[16:03] <Guest23621> I have to hard reset
[16:03] <Guest23621> I want to just roll back to open source drivers and remove fglrx completely, how can I do that
[16:03] <someguestname> EriC^^, it's this PC, so it's online. I do use both a ginormous hosts file and adblock to prevent bad stuff, so I'll probably be OK.
[16:03] <Katielyn> Of course its not daftykins.
[16:03] <EriC^^> Guest23621: you can use ctrl+alt+del to reboot if you get a black screen fwiw
[16:03] <k1l_> someguestname: no you are not
[16:04] <Guest23621> EriC^^, ha that works
[16:04] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: X is now not starting at all. I found that there is an exception when fglrx driver loads. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12773856/
[16:04] <k1l_> someguestname: you dont have a clue at all. you dont get updates for ssl, ssh, kernels etc etc etc. so you have a big security issue running there.
[16:04] <someguestname> EriC^^, so I should be able to use the repos after all you say?
[16:04] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: first error is "Failed to obtain VBIOS from kernel"
[16:04] <daftykins> Guest23621: sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[16:05] <someguestname> I absolutely know that I should upgrade, and I'll do that at some point when I have time. It's just such a huge ordeal, and something always goes wrong. I dread doing it.
[16:05] <Guest23621> How do I install the open source drivers again
[16:05] <EriC^^> someguestname: if it's an online pc i wouldn't recommend it, why don't you update? should be smooth and you can always back up any data if it doesn't work out so well
[16:05] <daftykins> Guest23621: just run as i said, you don't need to add - only take away
[16:05] <Katielyn> I did some things, http://i.prntscr.com/8b50c3e1cb894a21a9a36d451ba3af41.png.
[16:05] <k1l_> someguestname: then install and stay on LTS releases in the first place.
[16:05] <zerowaitstate> someguestname: get a copy of clonezilla, take a backup image of your disk, then do your upgrade. If it fails restore your old disk image
[16:06] <Guest23621> daftykins, yeah just ran that, now startx says "no screens found"
[16:06] <EriC^^> or just tar czvf your root filesystem if you don't have the space for a cloned disk image
[16:06] <daftykins> Katielyn: that's nice but this channel is for support only
[16:06] <daftykins> Guest23621: you restarted? don't ever use startx.
[16:06] <Guest23621> it actully says Module Failed to load module "fglrx" (does not exist)
[16:06] <imv> Hi, I was trying to install Ubuntu MATE on a fresh box from a USB drive, drive accidentaly got removed while in demo mode, and now it shows 28GB (instead of 32) and I can't boot anything off of it anymore. Any ideas?
[16:06] <someguestname> k1l_, I'd still be on 14.04 if it hadn't broken and forced an update. But now 14.10 it all kinds of broken too, so that's why I'll definitely update soonish. Don't worry.
[16:06] <Guest23621> what do you use instead of startx
[16:06] <daftykins> Guest23621: depends on version
[16:07] <Guest23621> latest 15.xx
[16:07] <daftykins> that is not a clear answer, sorry
[16:07] <Guest23621> i just rebooted I'll cat os-release
[16:07] <Guest23621> one sec
[16:08] <Guest23621> daftykins, 15.04
[16:08] <lapinozz> Hello, is there a way to make file-roller report error in console rather then messageBox?
[16:09] <EriC^^> Guest23621: the xorg log says 14.04
[16:09] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, quick question. Is there command where I can see what the router IP is? (or would it be called gateway IP?)
[16:09] <EriC^^> Demon_Jester: ip route
[16:09] <Guest23621> EriC^^, what
[16:10] <EriC^^> Guest23621: the log you pasted earlier says 14.04 trusty
[16:10] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12773856/
[16:10] <Guest23621> EriC^^, I didn't paste a log
[16:10] <EriC^^> ok, my bad
[16:10] <Guest23621> np h
[16:13] <Guest23621> so lightdm seems to be the way to start the GUI
[16:13] <Guest23621> lightdm still wont start it
[16:13] <Guest23621> It seems like even w/ fglrx removed it's trying to use fglrx
[16:15] <lapinozz> Hello, is there a way to make file-roller report error in console rather then messageBox?
[16:15] <k1l_> lapinozz: start it from a terminal
[16:16] <lapinozz> still do the same
[16:20] <someguestname> EriC^^, Thanks, I got enough clues to figure it out.
[16:26] <lapinozz> Hello, is there a way to make file-roller report error in console rather then messageBox?
[16:43] <anshuman_> ..
[16:47] <topi`> does anybody know if there are backports of modemmanager-1.4.0 or newer for Trusty?
[16:48] <topi`> Trusty has modemmanager-1.0.0 and I tried to apply a patch I found on the 'net to get my Huawei working, but the patch fails
[16:48] <topi`> so most probably it's for a newer MM
[16:48] <topi`> huawei/mm-plugin-huawei.c:279:5: error: passing argument 1 of 'mm_device_get_product' from incompatible pointer type
[16:48] <OerHeks> topi`, no, you might want to build it yourself
[16:49] <topi`> is there an easy way to grab the source from, say, ubuntu 15.04?
[16:49] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager
[16:49] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/1.4.0-1
[16:51] <topi`> ok thanks
[16:53] <topi`> there are 3 files to download, a .dsc, the .orig.tgz and a .debian.tgz ... is there a way to unpack all these in a simple way?
[16:53] <OerHeks> topi`, else modemmanager 1.4.4 http://www.ubuntumaniac.com/2015/02/modemmanager-144-is-out-this-open.html
[16:54] <OerHeks> you will find libmm-glib and api here too http://www.freedesktop.org/software/ModemManager/
[16:54] <topi`> right
[16:54] <lapinozz> Hello, is there a way to make file-roller report error in console rather then messageBox?
[16:54] <OerHeks>  am not that good in building, maybe someone else here can help you out.
[16:56] <OerHeks> lapinozz, maybe if you start fileroller from terminal, i cannot find an other way.
[16:57] <lapinozz> OerHeks: that's what im doing, no sucess, thx anyway
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> lapinozz  i guess you'd have to modify the file roller's source code
[17:02] <topi`> OK, trying to compile stuff from Vivid on Trusty is a futile exercise: dh: unable to load addon systemd: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/systemd.pm
[17:02] <topi`> unless I can find a package for that in trusty...
[17:02] <OerHeks> oh, vivid is on systemD indeed ..
[17:03] <OerHeks> big change.
[17:03] <topi`> yeah, makes complications like this
[17:04] <ioria> lapinozz, you can try with strace but the output it's not so clear
[17:04] <OerHeks> You might want to install vivid then, upgrade will be a pain, as 14.10 is EOL.
[17:07] <daftykins> topi`: compiling to begin with is outside the support scope though
[17:08] <lapinozz> ioria: thx
[17:09] <ioria> lapinozz, you're welcome
[17:11] <blib> pybluez is giving me trouble. Anyone here has experience with bluez? Any other options I can use?
[17:12] <asarch> Off-topic question: do you know any place I could compare two smart tv sets?
[17:13] <qstrahl> I'm noticing some settings in `xrdb -q` that I did not set myself, and I'm wondering how I can figure out where they're coming from, because they are overriding my own settings most annoyingly.
[17:13] <qstrahl> They must be set after my own settings on login
[17:14] <big> looking for drugs
[17:15] <big> anyone know?
[17:20] <salyywang> it's not getting any easier is it
[17:20] <salyywang> oops wrong channel. sry
[17:30] <tux38> Hood pimp !
[17:31] <tux38> Straight up pimp
[17:31] <tux38> Hood style
[17:32] <syntroPi> Is there any tool to convert epub -> pdf which is NOT as buggy as calibre?
[17:32] <tux38> Whys that buggy ?
[17:32] <syntroPi> because it just segfaults on conversion
[17:33] <tux38> Big pimping slapping hoes
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> syntroPi  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[17:33] <hhhh> Yo, so I just switched to i3-wm, and some interesting problems have arisen.
[17:33] <tux38> Steady pimping
[17:33] <hhhh> If anyone is willing to help out here.
[17:34] <tux38> Hood rat star babes
[17:34] <kid123> this channel is for finding help. shoot your question hhhh
[17:34] <hhhh> 1.  My two monitors have become reversed; the layout is completely wrong according to i3.
[17:34] <syntroPi> MonkeyDust, i just have an epub and want to generate an pdf file out of it. i tried ebook-convert book.epub book.pdf which segfaults. well the gui version tells me just about an error
[17:35] <hhhh> 2.  My mouse, which used to undergo constant deceleration of 2.5 is now on full mouse accel, which I never knew how to turn off.
[17:35] <syntroPi> hence my question for a stable alternative to calibre
[17:35] <tux38> Straight up hoes
[17:35] <hhhh> 3.  Actually, it was probably just two haha
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> tux38  stop
[17:36] <tux38> Its in the settings  playa hater
[17:37] <tux38> Word up haterade
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> !info epub-utils | syntroPi is this usreful
[17:38] <kid123> hhhh i am not sure if you will get support for i3-wm on this channel.
[17:39] <hhhh> :9  Where is the appropriate place?
[17:39] <tux38> True thug
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> tux38  are you bot?
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> tux38  are you a bot?
[17:40] <tux38> Banging on big beats linux babiex
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> tux38  who's the president of the usa?
[17:41] <tux38> Piss off dude
[17:41] <tux38> Obama
[17:41] <kid123> hhhh,  i guess, you can stick around here some more time and some knowledgeable person may be able to help out on that. i cant suggest you the right channel. sorry
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> tux38  this is a family friendly channel, behave or leave
[17:42] <tux38> Behave or leave
[17:42] <daftykins> !ops | tux38 needs ejecting
[17:42] <tux38> Sticking to rap music bro
[17:43] <phunyguy> tux38: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:43] <tux38> So does ubuntu still force you to run unity ?
[17:43] <Myrtti> no
[17:43] <tux38> Ok
[17:44] <tux38> But its not longer open i've read
[17:45] <Myrtti> tux38: did you have a support question?
[17:45] <tux38> Ununtu is mo ving away from linux
[17:45] <Myrtti> or are you just fishing for discussion about Ubuntu and your own spin to it?
[17:45] <tux38> Its something else now
[17:45] <tux38> No
[17:46] <Myrtti> because this is a support channel, and if you can't stick to it, I'd suggest other channels to continue on
[17:46] <baizon> !offtopic
[17:46] <alekzanther_> anyway, it's not moving away from linux.
[17:46] <alekzanther_> lol
[17:47] <tux38> It already has
[17:47] <baizon> tux38: please stop
[17:47] <tux38> Its open source more or less but they dropped all linux support
[17:49] <tux38> Ill just read comments
[17:51] <tux38> Sorry for non suppourt chatter
[17:53] <Paolas> Hello all
[17:53] <Paolas> please to help me
[17:54] <Paolas> I want install on ubuntu 14.04 3 lts
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> Paolas  what goes wrong
[17:54] <Paolas> but i have laptop 15 g202ng I can install this on ubuntu zes or not _
[17:54] <Paolas> ?
[17:55] <Paolas> i can or no ?
[17:56] <kid123> paolas, does your laptop have any OS on it right now ?
[17:56] <Paolas> windows 8.1 aber i was install on windows 7 ultimate
[17:57] <kid123> any laptop running windows is capable of running Ubuntu as well.
[17:57] <Paolas> i want os install Ubuntu 14.04 if i can for 15-g202ng  laptop  ?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Paolas  create a live dvd or usb and try if it works
[17:57] <Paolas> dvd
[17:58] <Paolas> 14.04 no have insilde windows ? only full install ?
[17:59] <Paolas> but why slow on webcam skype no good see on webcam mal ... how to make idea ?
[17:59] <juan_> hello
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> Paolas  what is your language?
[18:00] <Paolas> english
[18:00] <Paolas> but I am deaf
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> Paolas  keep it in the channel
[18:02] <Paolas> ok
[18:03] <Paolas> laptop amd64 but i can install 32 bit or 64 bit that ?
[18:03] <kid123> go for 64 bit
[18:04] <tux38> Now its called Ubuntu os.
[18:04] <tux38> No linux in the branding any more.
[18:04] <Paolas> okay
[18:04] <milton> Do you also see the tiny white line at top left? It's also draggable.
[18:05] <tux38> Ubuntu isnt pure linux that ship has sailed.
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> tux38  wrong channel, stick to support questions
[18:05] <Paolas> but how to good install on webcam for skype ?
[18:05] <julian-d_> tux38: please stop.
[18:06] <tux38> Its appears to still be open source at least.
[18:07] <julian-d_> tux38: please only talk about support in here, if you want to troll do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:07] <tux38> Ubunti isnt linux any more
[18:07] <OerHeks> julian-d_, no, in ##troll :-D
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> julian-d_  ignore her
[18:08] <tux38> Im not trolling.
[18:08] <Myrtti> tux38: but you've been asked to stop
[18:11] <tux38> Hi
[18:11] <Paolas> tellme know please
[18:11] <Paolas> how to insall on webcam on Laptop 15-g202ng  ?
[18:11] <tux38> Hi
[18:12] <baizon> Paolas: it will be detected automatically, no need to install drivers
[18:12] <Paolas> ok
[18:13] <Paolas> oder install AMD A8  for ghrapics ?
[18:14] <tux38> Hi
[18:15] <baizon> Paolas: you can install the catalyst drivers if you have trouble with your graphics drivers
[18:15] <Paolas> ok
[18:16] <tux38> Or cant you just run generic video ?
[18:16] <Paolas> so i can delete all on windows 7 and new install only ubuntu if is good _
[18:16] <Paolas> ?
[18:17] <tux38> I just run what ever it auto configs
[18:17] <blib> is there an alternative to bluez available for dealing with bluetooth devices?
[18:17] <tux38> For the gpu
[18:17] <baizon> Paolas: i would recommend to backup your data first
[18:18] <tux38> You have actually have bluetooth hardware 1st.
[18:19] <Paolas> but how to make install usb or android on the phone or tablet ?
[18:19] <tux38> Thats a must
[18:20] <tux38> Dont know
[18:20] <OerHeks> tux38, stop the useless comments.
[18:20] <tux38> Is android already instaled ?
[18:20] <tux38> Chill bro
[18:21] <Voyage> I have z97 board and ubuntu LTS. It seems that the wifi is not recognized. What do I need to do here?
[18:21] <tux38> Its no longer linux
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> blib  blueman maybe
[18:21] <alekzanther_> Voyage, which model?
[18:21] <Paolas> wont open usb on the phone
[18:22] <alekzanther_> Voyage, nvm z97 builtin i guess
[18:22] <tux38> Odd
[18:22] <baizon> Voyage: first check for errors
[18:23] <tux38> Maye theres an online guide for this install ?
[18:23] <OerHeks> voyage, open the buildin driver tool, search for driver in dash.
[18:23] <syntroPi> MonkeyDust, hmm that seems to be to be * -> epub rather than epub -> pdf
[18:24] <Voyage> alekzanther_, z97 k
[18:25] <Voyage> OerHeks,  let me find the driver tool
[18:25] <tux38> Oh yeah petter
[18:25] <Voyage> baizon,  no errors
[18:25] <philm88> Hey all. I'm putting together a process to back up a bunch of ubuntu servers. It looks like ubuntu creates a 'backup' user automatically and its home dir has some files in it, presumably generated by some script. Is it expected to modify the backup user so it can be logged in as & perform additional tasks required to backup (eg, dump a mysql DB) - or - is it expected to create another user soley for my specific backup process?
[18:25] <tux38> Sounds like building from source peter griffin.
[18:26] <syntroPi> philm88, dont know an answer to your question, but for server backups i always used duplicity
[18:27] <daftykins> philm88: i've never seen that user.
[18:27] <OerHeks> !ops | tux38
[18:27] <tux38> What ?
[18:27] <baizon> thank you OerHeks
[18:27] <OerHeks> you were asked to stop, tux38 , go troll elsewhere
[18:27] <Voyage> OerHeks,  the built in driver tool in kubuntu shows only nvidio graphiccard drivers
[18:28] <daftykins> *nvidia
[18:28] <tux38> Easy troll
[18:28] <OerHeks> voyage oke, then next step: open terminal: lspci # and see what line is your webcam
[18:28] <baizon> Voyage: but any wifi relasted info from logs?
[18:28] <philm88> daftykins: Yeah, I only noticed it because I tried to add a user called 'backup' and it told me it already existed :\
[18:29] <Voyage> baizon,  OerHeks  no wifi
[18:29] <Voyage> baizon,  ^
[18:29] <philm88> syntroPi: Thanks for the info, I'll take a look into that
[18:29] <maexrakete> Hey guys, for some reason I have two filemanager installed. One of them (the one i want to get rid of anyways) is not working properly. How can I find out which one is which and get rid of it?
[18:29] <maexrakete> Thanks for your help :)
[18:30] <syntroPi> philm88, its kind of a smartass rsync combined with gpg for incremental backups to various backends
[18:30] <OerHeks> Voyage, post the output on paste.ubuntu.com ,it might have a different name
[18:30] <SilentWalk7> Hello all. I am experiencing an error. I changed my graphics driver (From additional software) and now when I start the computer, I can only see a black screen and inside it is the terminal
[18:30] <Voyage> $ sudo lspci -v | grep -i net
[18:30] <Voyage> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 11)
[18:30] <mirek> hej
[18:30] <Paolas> thnx all
[18:30] <OerHeks> Voyage, that is wired lan
[18:30] <Voyage> OerHeks,  how do I see wireless?
[18:31] <OerHeks> Voyage, post the output, let us look
[18:31] <Voyage> OerHeks,  output of what???
[18:31] <SilentWalk7> Is it possible to change back to the open source driver, through the terminal?
[18:31] <syntroPi> SilentWalk7, you might want to log into that terminal and take a look at the output of command "dmesg" to get further informations
[18:32] <SilentWalk7> I did dmesg, gave me a lot of text, which I do not understand much of. Anything in particular I am looking for?
[18:32] <OerHeks> Voyage, read back
[18:33] <Voyage> OerHeks,  I said there is "no" output of the commands you advised
[18:33] <syntroPi> SilentWalk7, also you might want to take a look at "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" for more info
[18:33] <OerHeks> Voyage, really? you posted one line, sure there are more
[18:34] <syntroPi> SilentWalk7, there you can look for "EE" e.g. "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:34] <syntroPi> that means errors
[18:34] <Voyage> OerHeks,  http://pastie.org/10479315
[18:35] <SilentWalk7> Ok, I did that, I see couple of EE covered in purple
[18:35] <OerHeks> Voyage, indeed no wifi device, maybe it is disabled with a hardware button
[18:36] <baizon> Voyage: are you sure its not disabled (BIOS)?
[18:36] <SilentWalk7> gives dev/dri/card0 not such file or directory
[18:36] <SilentWalk7> that's one of them
[18:36] <syntroPi> SilentWalk7, also you might want to filter dmesg like        dmesg | grep -iC 3 "video"
[18:36] <SilentWalk7> Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config
[18:37] <Voyage> OerHeks,  baizon   very unexpected. but i guess the board does not have a wifi. Correct me if wrong? http://www.asus.com/us/site/motherboards/Z97/comparison/
[18:37] <Voyage> asus z97 k
[18:37] <SilentWalk7> ok did that, this error happend when I switched to ATI from the OpenSource
[18:37] <SilentWalk7> you think it is possible to switch back to Open source, using the terminal?
[18:37] <SilentWalk7> and how, if it is possible?
[18:38] <OerHeks> Voyage, does it have a connector for an external antenna? if no, it has no wireless :-(
[18:38] <syntroPi> SilentWalk7, unfortunately im not familiar with AMD gfx but you might get a hint what went wrong from the output I suggested. i guess its always possible to apt-get remove <whatever you installed> or blacklist them in modules and reboot
[18:39] <Voyage> OerHeks, hm
[18:39] <Voyage> OerHeks,  thanks
[18:40] <SilentWalk7> I will try purging all the related ATI drivers
[18:40] <SilentWalk7> see if that will fix it
[18:40] <syntroPi> maybe you can try to blacklist them in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf instead though
[18:40] <OerHeks> SilentWalk7, try that, and remove the xorg.conf, and reboot
[18:40] <syntroPi> not really sure
[18:41] <albertocg> Hello. How to make unity panel completely transparent. Setting opacity to 0 in ccsm lowers opacity, but it's still translucent, not transparent
[18:41] <Voyage> OerHeks,  https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97K/
[18:42] <Katielyn> albertocg, I believe Unity Tweak Tool can do this.
[18:43] <OerHeks> Voyage, do you see wifi @ https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97K/specifications/ ?
[18:43] <OerHeks> not me
[18:44] <Voyage> me niether
[18:44] <Voyage> neither*
[18:44] <SilentWalk7> Thanks for the help syntroPi and OerHeks, simply purging helped.
[18:44] <albertocg> Katielyn: I've tried with both ccsm and unity-tweak-tool
[18:44] <Voyage> OerHeks,  thanks again.
[18:44] <syntroPi> glad it worked
[18:44] <SilentWalk7> by doing that it defaulted back to the open source driver, and works now :)
[18:44] <OerHeks> SilentWalk7, have fun :-)
[18:45] <SilentWalk7> by doing that it defaulted back to the open source driver, and works now :).9
[18:45] <SilentWalk7> ups
[18:45] <syntroPi> SilentWalk7, just out of curiosity how well does the open amd driver work ?
[18:46] <syntroPi> coz i always used the closed nvidia (which works pretty well except for being closed ugly binary blob)
[18:46] <SilentWalk7> well I am not on my gaming computer, however steam wont work with the open source driver
[18:46] <SilentWalk7> or I still haven't found a way around it
[18:46] <syntroPi> i see
[18:46] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: yes, it will. Just needs a tweak
[18:47] <SilentWalk7> I tried changing to a different driver, but you all know that story
[18:47] <SilentWalk7> mcphail are you able to guide me in the right direction?
[18:47] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: I presume Steam doesn't open and you get various library errors if you start from the command line?
[18:48] <Omilun> hello i need a word currecter in ubuntu ... i had it but now i dont have that
[18:48] <SilentWalk7> indeed
[18:48] <SilentWalk7> libgl to be exact
[18:49] <SilentWalk7> and complains about some missing drivers
[18:49] <syntroPi> !info aspell | Omilun
[18:49] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: basically, you need to remove or rename a pile of libraries steam installs which are not compatible with the open source drivers. Give me a minute to google and I'll find you a command
[18:50] <Omilun> syntroPi: apt-get install aspell?
[18:50] <syntroPi> Omilun, well depends on where you want to use that of course but yeah
[18:51] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: find $HOME/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/*/usr/lib/ -name "libstdc++.so.6" -exec mv "{}" "{}.bak" \; -print
[18:51] <Omilun> syntroPi: thanks ... i love ubuntu chanel ... goodluck
[18:52] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: that'll rename the libstdc++ driver which causes mist of the conflicts. Steam will then use the native one, which will work.
[18:52] <SilentWalk7> Thanks, I will try that right now!
[18:52] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: and you might need to rerun that command every time steam updates
[18:53] <SilentWalk7> Thank you, it sure made steam start up.
[18:53] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: :) np
[18:53] <SilentWalk7> I will bookmark it for future use
[18:53] <SilentWalk7> in the process of converting everything to linux
[18:53] <jayjo> When I start my machine I see *** /dev/xvda1 should be checked for errors ***
[18:53] <jayjo> Is this serious?
[18:54] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: try to stick with the open source AMD drivers if possible. Performance isn't quite as good as the proprietary ones, but _far_ less buggy
[18:55] <SilentWalk7> The laptop is the only one that uses ATI graphic cards
[18:55] <SilentWalk7> the other two use nvidia
[18:55] <SilentWalk7> I will see if nvidia also has the same issues
[18:56] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: proprietary nvidia drivers are very good. OPen source nvidia drivers are poor just now
[18:56] <SilentWalk7> Good to know, and do you think I can simply select the driver through the "Additional drivers" window?
[18:56] <Omilun> am aspell dusent show wrrong word
[18:57] <SilentWalk7> Or do I need to do some magic on the terminal.
[18:57] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: the additional drivers thing is the proper way to do it, but I always use the terminal so I can see any errors
[18:58] <SilentWalk7> Aha I see. Sadly I started using linux, maybe a week ago, so I really don't know what most errors mean
[18:58] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: to be safe, install "build-essential" and "linux-headers-generic" before installing nvidia drivers
[18:58] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: the GUI should be fine
[18:59] <SilentWalk7> Yea, I will also do the usual apt-get update, upgrade, dist and so on
[18:59] <Omilun> ex me how can i install a word currecter on manjaro? (when i type a wrrong word ... i show my by a red underline)
[18:59] <SilentWalk7> anyway, thanks a lot for the support :)
[18:59] <mcphail> SilentWalk7: enjoy :)
[19:00] <TiZ> Hi, trying to update my Xubuntu 14.04 and am currently getting a Hash Sum mismatch error on both the partner and trusty-security repos. What should I do about this?
[19:00] <zenati> ^q
[19:00] <zenati> \q
[19:00] <zenati> \quit
[19:00] <syntroPi> mcphail, "apt-get install nvidia-current" should be already enought though
[19:01] <syntroPi> SilentWalk7, ^^
[19:01] <wileee> TiZ, Do you see a partial upgrade warning if run from the update gui?
[19:02] <SilentWalk7> Ok, thank you.
[19:02] <TiZ> wileee: Nope. If I try to use the GUI, it just says "Failed to download repository information."
[19:02] <mcphail> syntroPi: yes, I think they fixed the dependencies so it pulls in the headers now. Just can't remember _when_ it was fixed and if that includes 14.04
[19:03] <wileee> TiZ, This sudden? Maybe a new mirror switch, as of now we need exact info to help.
[19:04] <wileee> more exacting anyway, contex
[19:04] <TiZ> wileee: Yes, this just started happening.
[19:06] <wileee> TiZ, Try a pastebin of these commands for the channel sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   just so we see more.
[19:11] <guest-123> Does anyone know how to restart lightdm to get it listening again without lossing my current session?
[19:12] <wileee> TiZ, If you're confused by any questions or instructions, let us know, we want you to get the help needed. ;)
[19:12] <TiZ> wileee: http://hastebin.com/elikahesac.pas
[19:12] <wileee> thanks
[19:12] <daftykins> guest-123: you're probably out of luck, dependin on what you did / what happened
[19:12] <TiZ> Tried to pipe to pastebinit, and lost stderr, lol
[19:13] <Piperanci> Xubuntu uses GNOME right??
[19:15] <mcphail> Piperanci: no. XFCE
[19:15] <jayjo> in shell, if i run 'date' it prints the date, but if I run echo $date + 'test string' it doesn't do anything. how do I append a string to the date or vice versa
[19:15] <guest-123> when I return to the promp after being away its gor a line of **** but not taking inrput or letting me clear it  not accepting input
[19:15] <wileee> TiZ, You have some repos added beyond this channels support, just so you know. I would change the mirror as a first try in software & updates first tab. WE may need to see the sources you have at some point.
[19:15] <Piperanci> mcphail Ok thanks
[19:16] <alistair> I notice I have a hdmi in-port, is there a program that will give me in-depth info about it? (I want to write a driver for it)
[19:16] <mcphail> jayjo: date is not a variable, so $date does not make sense. Try `date` (note the backwards quotes)
[19:16] <TiZ> wileee: I know I've got a bunch of PPAs. I'll try changing the mirror.
[19:17] <wileee> TiZ, It may be that simple with the hash, an update happening maybe.
[19:18] <wileee> TiZ, Once in awhile we see partial upgrades due to all packages not having made it fro multiple devs, and this clears within a day or so, never do a partial is the issue.
[19:19] <wileee> from*
[19:19] <TiZ> wileee: Got it. Changing mirrors didn't help, but it's in the partner repo anyway which probably doesn't even have a mirror.
[19:19] <TiZ> I'll just mess with it later. Thanks for your help.
[19:20] <wileee> TiZ, Way better help here in this area myself, faster anyway, let us know if you need. No problem trying here.
[19:20] <Piperanci> mcphail: Where can I download gedit? The page I am on says that it's for GNOME
[19:21] <wileee> TiZ, Than myself*
[19:21] <mcphail> Piperanci: "sudo apt-get install gedit"
[19:21] <TiZ> Okay. Take care.
[19:21] <wileee> Piperanci, What release of what OS?
[19:22] <Piperanci> wileee Xubuntu
[19:23] <wileee> Piperanci, number of text editors, gedit and leafpad are in the repos for any desktop with an V
[19:23] <wileee> X*
[19:24] <Jordan_U> Piperanci: With a few rare exceptions (most of which are closer to "widgets" than applications) any application written "for GNOME/KDE/XFCE" will also run under any other desktop environment. Just search for "gedit" in Ubuntu software Center or "sudo apt-get install gedit".
[19:24] <xyz_> hi
[19:25] <Piperanci> mcphail: Am I supposed to search that on google or...?
[19:25] <Piperanci> mcphail: Sorry I'm new to this
[19:25] <Piperanci> wileee repos?
[19:26] <Pici> Piperanci: you can just type that into a terminal.
[19:26] <wileee> Piperanci, repositories, all operating systems have their own to call for updates/upgrades, a general term.
[19:26] <Piperanci> jordan_u: Can you explain me the last part? "sudo apt- get install gedit"
[19:28] <wileee> Piperanci, You're smart to ask, you have great help, I will hang if needed.
[19:29] <Piperanci> wileee: Thanks! so "sudo apt-get install gedit" is a repos?
[19:29] <zerocool> "The main configuration file is usually called httpd.conf" Why don't I have httpd.conf
[19:29] <Leverquin> hello i have one question about my sound. finally i found what is problem but i do not know how to fix it
[19:30] <Leverquin> so problem is: when i rise master level to max in alsamixer
[19:30] <wileee> Piperanci, sudo is the tag to show you are the account root holder, you've installed, the rest calls the repo apt-get the install is as it sounds and the last gedit it the application to install.
[19:30] <philm88> I'm looking into setting up duplicity for backing up some remote servers. All the examples on the web I've found have been along the lines of; the server you want to back up runs duplicity then pushes the back up to a remote storage location. Is it possible to set it up so a central backup server can copy data from a remote server to itself? Ie, a pull backup?
[19:30] <daftykins> Leverquin: when you do... what?
[19:30] <Leverquin> and music is bit louder my pc/linux starting to get "headphones" and my music is starting to skip from stereo to headphones and music is broken how to to fix it
[19:31] <Leverquin> i tried to remove auto decetction but still doesnt' work only changed is when i use headphones music is still on stereo
[19:31] <wileee> Piperanci, Basically a standard install command. You can open the ubuntu software center and use it by searching for what you want.
[19:33] <mcphail> Piperanci: I don't know if xubuntu has the Ubuntu Software Centre installed as standard. If you are a beginner, you might be better using standard Ubuntu with the Software Centre which is designed to make installing software easy
[19:33] <wileee> !manual | Piperanci here is the basic manual it might be helpful
[19:33] <Piperanci> mcphail: It does. I typed a phrase in the terminal and I now have gedit. Thanks!
[19:34] <mcphail> Piperanci: enjoy :)
[19:34] <Piperanci> !manual
[19:34] <Piperanci> wileee: Thanks! I now have it
[19:34] <wileee> Piperanci, Many prefer the software center so use what works for yah. ;)
[19:35] <wileee> no prob, bets of luck
[19:35] <wileee> best*
[19:35] <Haris> hello all
[19:35] <Piperanci> Yeah I'll use it next time. Thanks a lot
[19:36] <Haris> what's the pkg for postgresql-server on trusty
[19:36] <iffraff> hello, my ubuntu crashes when I close my laptop.  is there anyone who can help me with this?
[19:36] <Haris> aptitude search postgresql|grep -i server doesn't reveal its name
[19:36] <Guest62248>  /j ##plano-external stlouis2015
[19:36] <misk00> hey guys at canonical, who broke archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/ ?
[19:37] <daftykins> iffraff: can you give a bit more detail about what you're running, first?
[19:37] <wileee> iffraff, Maybe, the channel works best with some outline if you can.
[19:37] <Haris> hmm.. its installed
[19:37] <iffraff> yes, just wanted to get someones attention before I did a data dump :)
[19:37] <wileee> misk00, This is free volunteer help, not exactly what you're looking for.
[19:38] <tgm4883> misk00: what's broke about it?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> iffraff  simply ask a question to get attention
[19:38] <Piperanci> !manual
[19:38] <daftykins> iffraff: hrmm, perhaps throw it all in a pastebin if you have some info
[19:39] <iffraff> so I have had this problem with 14.04 - 15.10 (current) I am running a macbook pro with a partiton with ubuntu loaded on it.  when I close the lid then after a bit open it again the back light of the keyboard is on and the system is frozen
[19:39] <Pici> misk00: works for me, what issue are you having?
[19:39] <iffraff> so the screen is black the keyboard is lit there is no response, I have to hard reboot.
[19:39] <daftykins> iffraff: have you confirmed this by attempting to SSH in from another system on the local network?
[19:39] <Piperanci> wileee Where do I have to type !manual? Here or in the terminal?
[19:39] <iffraff> um
[19:39] <wileee> Piperanci, The link in the bots message,  http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[19:39] <iffraff> confirmed which part, but no
[19:40] <daftykins> well, confirmed it's truly unresponsive
[19:40] <wileee> we trigger the bot with ! and subject
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> misk00  works for me too
[19:40] <BlueProtoman> I have some Bluetooth speakers, and I'm using Ubuntu 15.04.  How do I direct sound to these speakers?
[19:40] <iffraff> ah, well, no, but for all practical purposes the laptop is unresponsive
[19:41] <daftykins> iffraff: confirm the above first, it'd be helpful.
[19:41] <iffraff> so last time I was on here someone asked about my swap drive which was infact way too small, I increased it to 32g but no change
[19:42] <iffraff> well, I have to tell you, I'm not sure I have the system set up with ssh in. I mean I've never done that
[19:42] <misk00> Pici: MonkeyDust W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/partner/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[19:42] <Piperanci> wileee: oooh i thought it was a person... Thank you
[19:42] <iffraff> I do have ssh agent running because I use github but I don't know if can get into my sys from somewhere else
[19:42] <wileee> Piperanci, That is alright. ;)
[19:42] <tgm4883> iffraff: you only have one computer?
[19:43] <iffraff> I'm at work I could grab someone elses computer.  but I don't know how to ssh into my laptop
[19:43] <tgm4883> iffraff: you'd need an ssh server installed on it. Easy enough to do
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> misk00  idd, the 'Packages' folder does not exist ... http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/partner/binary-amd64/
[19:44] <iffraff> well, I wonder if there are other steps we could take before we resort to that
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> or file
[19:44] <tgm4883> iffraff: well not really. The question is whether or not it's actually hard locked up. It's kind of an important point
[19:45] <iffraff> ok, so.. is there a apt-get package I should install?\
[19:45] <misk00> MonkeyDust: that's what I'm complaining about
[19:45] <misk00> MonkeyDust: # Enabled for Google Cloud SDK and gce-utils
[19:45] <misk00> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner
[19:45] <misk00> it's GCE default repo for newly provisioned VMs
[19:45] <misk00> and it worked 2 hours ago
[19:45] <tgm4883> !ssh
[19:45] <wileee> tgm4883, Pici MonkeyDust I saw this earlier with the partner repo and a hash mishmash, just info. http://hastebin.com/elikahesac.pas
[19:46] <tgm4883> iffraff: so just 'apt-get install openssh-server'
[19:46] <tgm4883> iffraff: then you should be able to SSH to your laptop
[19:46] <eurythmia> Hi folks. I'm having trouble disconnecting the secondary display from my laptop. While the secondary display is plugged in (currently in mirror mode) xrandr shows this (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12775269/), but when I disconnect the hdmi, xrandr shows this (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12775276/) ... and I can't use my display while it's like that. How can I disalbe the Virtual display so that I can actually use my laptop as a laptop?
[19:47] <OerHeks> those mismatches can be solved by choosing another mirror or: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:47] <iffraff> well, ok installed. when I go to another persons computer what do I type to get into mine? ( I don't want to look even dumber when I go over )
[19:48] <mrasker> hello. could anybody tel me how to send a file from my android to ubuntu via bluetooth.
[19:48] <BlueProtoman> I have some Bluetooth speakers, and I'm using Ubuntu 15.04.  How do I direct sound to these speakers?
[19:48] <mrasker> I can send from ubuntu to android perfectly.
[19:48] <OerHeks> eurythmia, check your keyboard for the FN key internal/external/both screens button
[19:49] <tgm4883> iffraff: you'll need the IP address of your laptop. Then just try "ssh username@ipaddress" replace username with the username you use on your laptop and ipaddress with the laptop's IP address
[19:49] <eurythmia> OerHeks, genius. 've never used the button, so I didn't think to.
[19:49] <eurythmia> Thanks.
[19:49] <OerHeks> :-)
[19:53] <iffraff> tgm got it thanks.  give me a minute and I'll report back
[19:53] <Cobradabest> Can someone help me? I'm trying to get Android Studio working on Ubuntu Studio, but it won't run.
[19:53] <iffraff> christ. how do you get the ip address. i"m an old windows user. sorry
[19:53] <daftykins> Cobradabest: how'd you install it?
[19:53] <daftykins> iffraff: run the terminal then type "ip a"
[19:54] <Cobradabest> daftykins: through command like, following this: https://www.linux.com/community/blogs/132-mobile/779326-mobile-development-how-to-install-android-studio-on-ubuntu-version-1404
[19:54] <mrasker> I can send from ubuntu to android perfectly.
[19:54] <mrasker> could anybody tell me how to send a file from my android to ubuntu via bluetooth.
[19:55] <iffraff> thx
[19:55] <BlueProtoman> I have some Bluetooth speakers, and I'm using Ubuntu 15.04.  How do I direct sound to these speakers?
[19:56] <ikonia> win 1
[19:56] <ikonia> oops
[19:58] <texmakersc> hello all. I am having trouble with texmaker in ubuntu, which may be a more general qt5 problem. none of the shortcuts are working at the moment. I have ubuntu 15.04 and i downloaded texmaker from the repositories. does anyone know a way to fix this?
[19:58] <Cobradabest> So can anyone help me with Android Studio not starting?
[19:58] <daftykins> Cobradabest: not until you answer my question.
[19:59] <ikonia> texmakersc: look at what the shortcuts are running and try to run them manually to get some idea
[19:59] <Pici> /70/36
[19:59] <Cobradabest> daftykins: I did, I sent you a link to the website I was following.
[19:59] <daftykins> ah yes, i was off in another chan
[19:59] <texmakersc> ikonia: manually all of them work
[20:00] <daftykins> Cobradabest: ok so it's a PPA, can't help with that - asked the folks in #android / ##android ?
[20:00] <Cobradabest> Nope, but I will.
[20:02] <texmakersc2> the connection closed
[20:02] <iffraff> tgm, hey, back information in tow
[20:02] <texmakersc2> ikonia did you see my answer?
[20:02] <ikonia> texmakersc2: nope
[20:02] <texmakersc2> did anyone else?
[20:02] <iffraff> so the ssh timed out but when I did a hard reboot and the sys came up the ssh went through
[20:03] <texmakersc2> well someone mentioned recompiling qt5
[20:03] <texmakersc2> in a forum..
[20:03] <ikonia> texmakersc2: what was your answer
[20:04] <texmakersc2> ikonia: you told me to check those commands manually in texmaker and I said they run perfectly
[20:04] <texmakersc2> but not when using the assigned shortcuts
[20:05] <ikonia> texmakersc2: and your running the exact command of the shortcut, checking the properties and copying them to the command line ?
[20:05] <texmakersc2> I'm following the gui menu and toolbar buttons of texmaker
[20:06] <texmakersc2> things like search, makepdf
[20:06] <iffraff> tmg4883 you still around?
[20:06] <ikonia> texmakersc2: so it's the shortcut within the app - not the shortcut launching the app
[20:06] <texmakersc2> precisely
[20:06] <texmakersc2> my apologies
[20:06] <ikonia> texmakersc2: no problem, just good to clarify
[20:07] <ikonia> texmakersc2: what repo does the software come from
[20:07] <Leverquin> hello here is video of my problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fyR3Gc09lo on video you can't hear that sound is skipping but when i rise my master volume level my sound is skipping.
[20:08] <texmakersc2> how can I check? apt-cache?
[20:08] <texmakersc2> I used software centre
[20:08] <ikonia> apt-cache policy
[20:11] <texmakersc2> apt-cache not found?
[20:12] <ikonia> apt-cache policy
[20:12] <texmakersc2> apt-get not found?
[20:12] <texmakersc2> hmm
[20:12] <ikonia> it would suggest you have removed somethings you should not
[20:12] <ikonia> or your path is screwed
[20:12] <ikonia> or your missing some libraries and it can't launch
[20:12] <texmakersc2> oops
[20:12] <EriC^^> texmakersc2: type echo $PATH
[20:13] <texmakersc2> sorry I am instructing my girlfriend
[20:13] <texmakersc2> she made a typo
[20:13] <texmakersc2> ok no texmaker in apt-cache policy
[20:14] <tgm4883> iffraff: yea, and you should use tab complete
[20:14] <tgm4883> !tab | iffraff
[20:15] <iffraff> ug. ok can someone help me with my issue.  I'm had this problem with ubuntu 14.04 -15.10 I'm on a macbook pro with a partition with ubuntu loaded on it.  when I close the laptop, the keyboard backlight goes on the screen goes blank and the system freezes
[20:15] <iffraff> omg
[20:15] <iffraff> I was scrolled up and couldn't see your respnse.
[20:15] <iffraff> sorry
[20:16] <iffraff> tgm4883, hey! sweet! new tricks.  lots of them actually! now I can ssh too!
[20:16] <tgm4883> iffraff: so you can SSH into your laptop when the screen is frozen?
[20:17] <iffraff> nope.  but when I hard reboot the hanging ssh attempt goes through
[20:17] <tgm4883> iffraff: hmm, that's no good
[20:17] <iffraff> sorry I meant I could ssh in general :)
[20:17] <iffraff> I concur
[20:19] <luks> does anybody here know where would be the right place to report this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/685145/archive-canonical-com-repo-for-trusty-is-broken
[20:19] <iffraff> tgm4883, so am I sol?
[20:20] <ikonia> I don't think it is broken
[20:20] <bekks> works4me.
[20:20] <OerHeks> luks, choose another mirror or: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:20] <tgm4883> iffraff: no, hopefully someone else will pipe up though. I'm still at work and just got the OK to upgrade one of our environments. So I won't be able to help for a bit
[20:21] <iffraff> :) fun! or not.  but thanks for the help.  one step closer
[20:21] <luks> OerHeks: can't do that for archive.canonical.com
[20:22] <luks> and removing /var/lib/apt/lists/* won't help, the repo itself is broken
[20:22] <bekks> luks: How do you know the repo is broken?
[20:23] <iffraff> here's one of lesser importance.  I'm on 15.10 my swappyness is set to 60, the recommendation is 10 but when I go to logind.conf there is no swappiness setting. or anything remotely resembling swat
[20:23] <iffraff> swap
[20:23] <luks> bekks: the sizes and checksums from InRelease do not match Packages.bz2
[20:23] <iffraff> did ths change in 1510?
[20:23] <bekks> luks: Then you have to wait until the repo is updated.
[20:24] <ikonia> login.confi ??? for swapiness ???
[20:24] <luks> bekks: it's over two hours now
[20:24] <ikonia> iffraff: why are you messing with things like swapiness ?
[20:24] <luks> and everything excpet for that one file seems to be updated
[20:24] <bekks> luks: And?
[20:24] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[20:24] <bekks> luks: You cant do anything but waiting.
[20:25] <luks> bekks: given that it looks like a mistake to me, I was hoping to let somebody know
[20:25] <iffraff> aha, gravity check.  just going by memory it's gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:25] <iffraff> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[20:25] <ikonia> iffraff: why are you messing with spapiness ?
[20:26] <Shogoot> Hi all. Im trying to do some insert from on server to another. They are in same dmz sort of speak, but i cant get php to establish a connection. I can do mysql -u user -h ip -p and conect like that, but not with php and mysqli. any suggestions? Its not firewall realted, nor selinux.
[20:26] <ikonia> Shogoot: what version of ubuntu
[20:26] <ikonia> Shogoot: and how EXACTLY are you trying to update the DB
[20:27] <Shogoot> ikonia, php $this->conn = new mysqli($host, $user, $passwd, $database); and then mysqli_query.... but im not getting past establishing conection.
[20:27] <ikonia> Shogoot: so you need to verify the socket is open
[20:28] <ikonia> then verify the database is accepting connections from that user
[20:28] <ikonia> and put some debug in your php
[20:28] <Shogoot> ikonia, the db is accepting as i do get a connection usinig terminal and mysql -u user -h ip -p
[20:29] <Shogoot> ikonia, ill look into the socket thing
[20:31] <Shogoot> lsof... has along list attached, but it dont make any sense to me.
[20:34] <Shogoot> ikonia, lsof... has along list attached, but it dont make any sense to me.
[20:34] <ikonia> where are you running that ?
[20:34] <Shogoot> on my machine that has the php
[20:34] <ikonia> Shogoot: what has lsofs got to do with it ?
[20:34] <ikonia> it's making a remote connection, why would it have an open file
[20:35] <Shogoot> i thought that listen open sockets...
[20:35] <ikonia> no
[20:35] <Shogoot> this is way over my head :)
[20:36] <Shogoot> Ive never seen php failing at connecting to a server before, whenthe remote db has user accepting host from this same ip.
[20:37] <Shogoot> php says: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to MySQL server on 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' (13)
[20:37] <ikonia> Shogoot: thats a php problem, ##php will help with that
[20:37] <ikonia> (or put debugging in)
[20:43] <alekzanther_> anyone have an equalizer for the latest version of 15.04? mine broke the sound system after an update and had to be removed
[20:48] <dm_comp> hi
[20:48] <usr_> hi
[20:48] <alekzanther_> hi
[20:48] <xreaz> Probably already noted.  Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/partner/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:49] <daftykins> xreaz: mention it over in mirrors?
[20:49] <dm_comp> not sure why this is a hit $ grep -e 'oo*' foo
[20:49] <dm_comp> hello
[20:49] <dm_comp> only one o at the end?
[20:49] <daftykins> that might be more suited to the #bash folk
[20:49] <dm_comp> okay
[20:49] <Haris> what is the default, out of the box, password for postgresql 9.3 on trusty ?
[20:50] <Haris> its listening on localhost, and its not accepting root login
[20:50] <Haris> # psql
[20:50] <Haris> psql: FATAL:  role "root" does not exist
[20:52] <Haris> guys
[20:52] <Haris> ?
[20:52] <ger0448> i've lost my password for unlocking a luks encrypted disk.
[20:52] <ger0448> now i did find a post to solve this problem using a master key file
[20:52] <ger0448> i still have the access but like to know if the original passfrase gets overwriten or if it will be a secondary password/added to the original
[20:53] <ger0448> it might be a bit to much insite to be awnserd but i like to know so i can make the disicion to keep it running or fix it on the dirty way using the master-key-pass
[20:53] <ger0448> this is what i think will work but i like to know what will hapen to the old password
[20:53] <ger0448> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/161915/change-password-on-a-luks-filesystem-without-knowing-the-password
[21:01] <sandysue> HELP:  I have forgottn my password to authenticate new software downloads.  Where do I go to retrieve it on my laptop?
[21:03] <gimmic> Anyone getting a hash mismatch on apt repos?
[21:03] <gimmic> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/partner/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:05] <luks> gimmic: yes, the repo is broken
[21:06] <ger0448> sandysue> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword this will show you how
[21:06] <luks> hopefully somebody will fix it soon
[21:06] <gimmic> Just wanted to check, thanks.
[21:09] <sylvanaar> I'm stuck installing 15.04 on my Mac using VMWare Fusion 8. Here's what I see
[21:09] <sylvanaar> http://i.imgur.com/a6ju9nq.png
[21:09] <sylvanaar> It seems the back/next buttons are improperly located
[21:11] <teta> I'm getting this when installing oracle, how can I solve it?               Checking swap space: 0 MB available, 150 MB required.    Failed <<<<
[21:11] <ger0448> sylvanaar> what happens if you resize fusion
[21:12] <sylvanaar> In that mode it cannot be resized, you can only resize it once you have installed the vmware tools
[21:12] <sylvanaar> It just zooms the screen
[21:13] <ger0448> howmany mb did you asign to the vm graphic driver?
[21:14] <sylvanaar> 768MB
[21:14] <ger0448> thats for the graffics or the ram?
[21:14] <sylvanaar> Graphics
[21:15] <ger0448> rour own of that of the vm
[21:15] <ger0448> *your
[21:15] <sylvanaar> yes I made it
[21:16] <sylvanaar> just now
[21:16] <ger0448> what was the solution?
[21:16] <sylvanaar> No, i mean I made the VM
[21:16] <sylvanaar> I thought you were asking if I made the VM myself
[21:17] <teta> Checking swap space: 0 MB available, 150 MB required.    Failed <<<<
[21:17] <teta> Checking swap space: 0 MB available, 150 MB required.    Failed <<<<
[21:17] <ger0448> ok
[21:17] <teta> any suggestions?
[21:17] <bekks> teta: when doing what? running which ubuntu?
[21:17] <sylvanaar> Aha, I found a workaround. Using the tab key to tab to the button that is offscreen
[21:18] <xenogear> hello james
[21:18] <sylvanaar> Seems like a bug though
[21:18] <OerHeks> sylvanaar, next time: ALT + left mouse to drag the window
[21:19] <OerHeks> hold the super key for more key options
[21:19] <sylvanaar> OerHeks: thanks, I'll try that
[21:19] <xenogear> hello
[21:21] <jirido> Hi i happened to try to install ati drivers but reverted by uninstall fglrx driver. Now thou video dont play well at all. I need an advice..
[21:24] <ger0448> will this sollution owverwrite/remove the old passphrasse? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/161915/change-password-on-a-luks-filesystem-without-knowing-the-password
[21:25] <Viking667> 'llo. I upgraded to 15.04 about a week ago, and have noticed something strange. Every time gdm starts up, it also runs a copy of abiword. Where would I go to see why this is happening?
[21:25] <l0ka1> hey
[21:26] <OerHeks> Viking667, i had that too, it is a little bug, solution : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1432271/comments/10
[21:30] <Viking667> OerHeks: thanks, I'll take a look at that.
[21:30] <OerHeks> That fixed it for me :-)
[21:31] <tuxedo> where can i get tutorial about ubuntu browser?
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> tuxedo  firefox?
[21:35] <teta> how can i solve this error?            Checking swap space: 0 MB available, 150 MB required.    Failed <<<<                             using ubuntu 14.04
[21:36] <Ben64> teta: add at least 150MB of swap space... what is giving you that error?
[21:36] <teta> Ben64: oracle installer
[21:37] <Ben64> teta: oracle.. the database?
[21:38] <teta> Ben64: yeah the oracle installer
[21:38] <zoiezo> guys plz help. I am on a small pretty old shitty laptop running Ubuntu 15.04, when I try to type: sudo apt-get update, I get an error mesagge, and it fails to update, can someone help? I have a ethernet cable plugged in btw
[21:38] <teta> zoiezo: what's the error
[21:39] <Ben64> teta: usually people say oracle in here when they mean java. so just add some swap, can be a swap file probably, kind of dumb that it requires some
[21:39] <gartral> hey all, I got a bit of a problem here with a 14.04 system, google chrome keeps crashing with a core-dump, has anyone else had any similiar issues?
[21:39] <teta> Ben64: no it's the oracle database. how do I add swap?
[21:39] <zoiezo> @teta idk exaclty
[21:40] <zoiezo> also tried install an app, but wouldn't work either
[21:40] <Viking667> OerHeks: ah well, seems like removing abiword will (for now) solve the problem too.
[21:40] <Viking667> (as in, abiword-common, which then removes abiword and its deps)
[21:42] <Ben64> teta: easiest way would be to make a swap file "dd bs=1M count=<how many megabytes you want it to be> if=/dev/zero of=swapfile" "mkswap swapfile"  "sudo swapon swapfile"
[21:42] <Ben64> zoiezo: try it again and give us the error
[21:43] <zoiezo> okay, I am on pc atm, going to start it up ;)
[21:43] <bekks> teta: Oracle databases are not supported on Ubuntu, basically.
[21:44] <teta> Ben64: created a file like this                             dd bs=1M count=500mb if=/dev/zero of=swapfile
[21:44] <teta> Ben64: then         mkswap swapfile mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB
[21:45] <Ben64> teta: count should be a number only, like 500, not 500mb
[21:46] <teta> Ben64:  mkswap swapfile                             mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB
[21:46] <Ben64> delete the file and try again
[21:48] <crane> has anyone a clue why my late_command is not preseeded? even the mkdir is not working... :( https://dpaste.de/Ph34
[21:48] <teta> Ben64: mkswap swapfile               swapfile: No such file or directory
[21:48] <Ben64> teta: then you're doing the dd command incorrectly
[21:50] <teta> Ben64: I just pasted here exactly the what i put in the file
[21:51] <zoiezo> @teta the problem already fixed itself, ahhaha sorry to bother you
[21:51] <Cernunnos> Clementine=Awesome
[21:51] <Ben64> teta: put the full command and output into a pastebin
[21:52] <teta> Ben64: lol I just did what you instructed!
[21:52] <Ben64> teta: you didn't though
[21:53] <Viking667> now I just have to troubleshoot why a tablet works differently under Ubuntu 15.04 than Vista (yeah, I know, I know...)
[21:54] <teta> Ben64: 1- create a file that looks like this called swapfile                 dd bs=1M count=500 if=/dev/zero of=swapfile                       2- exit text editor, call              mkswap swapfile
[21:54] <teta> Ben64: and the error is             mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB
[21:54] <gartral> hey all, I got a bit of a problem here with a 14.04 system, google chrome keeps crashing with a core-dump, has anyone else had any similiar issues?
[21:55] <Ben64> teta: see you got it wrong
[21:55] <teta> Ben64: then say what part is wrong and how to correct it
[21:55] <Ben64> teta: i never said to make a text file, you were supposed to run the commands in order i posted
[21:55] <netlar> I cannot connect my printer
[21:56] <mbach_> Hi
[21:56] <teta> Ben64: so this is a command                               dd bs=1M count=500 if=/dev/zero of=swapfile
[21:56] <netlar> How can I find out the ip address of my printer
[21:57] <Haris> I create a soft link for a file (ln -s sourcedir/source-file targetdir/target-file). but when I run vi that-soft-link-name, I get new file in vi, rather than editing of the file for which I just created the soft link
[21:57] <Ben64> teta: indeed
[21:57] <mbach_> I'm looking for people who are interested in music softwares!
[21:57] <Haris> what am I doing wrong in creating soft link ?
[21:57] <teta> Ben64: cool, looks like it worked. will this swap stay there forever or until i reboot'
[21:57] <Ben64> teta: until you reboot
[21:58] <mbach_> I have created an audio player and I'm looking for beta-testers (and more!)
[21:58] <Ben64> mbach_: you're in the wrong channel
[21:58] <Ben64> Haris: probably linking incorrectly, make sure you use full paths in the ln command
[21:58] <Haris> hmm
[21:59] <hans_> test chat
[21:59] <mbach_> Ben64, even if I have a ready to build github repository (and a quite old one debian file)?
[21:59] <Ben64> mbach_: this channel is ubuntu support, you're not here looking for ubuntu support, so you're in the wrong channel. maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:00] <Haris> putting in full path did it
[22:00] <Ben64> Haris: :D
[22:00] <Haris> but why not relative path ? it was just one folder deep
[22:00] <Ben64> Haris: you probably did something weird on the relative path
[22:01] <Ben64> Haris: its usually easier and definitely more reliable to just use full paths
[22:01] <Haris> ln -s temba/settings.py.dev temba/settings.py <-- copy/pasted thsi command from http://rapidpro.github.io/rapidpro/docs/development/
[22:01] <Haris> this+
[22:02] <Ben64> Haris: doing that would make temba/settings.py a link to temba/temba/settings.py.dev
[22:02] <Haris> o_O
[22:02] <Haris> lol
[22:04]  * Viking667 grumbles about the state of affairs in tablet drivers
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> Haris  careful with copy/paste'ing from random sites
[22:05] <Haris> =)
[22:05] <mbach_> Ben64, I'll try to upload my soft on developer.ubuntu.com then!
[22:07] <gartral> Viking667: what tablets?
[22:13] <Haris> thank you all
[22:14] <Felishia>  http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/partner/binary-amd64/Packages hash sum mismatch
[22:14] <Felishia> heeelp
[22:22] <Guest34589> my interned keep disconnecting me
[22:22] <BadDream> oh ya me 2 my interneds keep disconecting me 2
[22:23] <wileee> !details
[22:25] <BHSPiMonkey> My mouse cursor turns invisible from time to time, about once a day. Sometimes it comes back on its own, sometimes it doesn't. The appearance/disappearance don't seem correlated with anything. Anyone know why it could be happening, or at least a potential workaround when it does happen?
[22:25] <BHSPiMonkey> (Ubuntu 15.04 with Intel graphics)
[22:26] <BHSPiMonkey> Note: This was originally an Ubuntu-GNOME install, but I later removed the ubuntu-gnome packages and installed ubuntu-desktop instead.
[22:26] <Kazama> i got problem with my xchat
[22:26] <Bashing-om> fel
[22:26] <Kazama> it's forced close when i open file transfer
[22:26] <Kazama> i tried to download a xdcc file
[22:27] <Kazama> what's wrong?
[22:29] <tgeest> quit
[22:31] <gartral> hey all, I got a bit of a problem here with a 14.04 system, google chrome keeps crashing with a core-dump, has anyone else had any similiar issues?
[22:33] <z1log`> hey
[22:36] <Ryein> ubuntu doesn
[22:36] <Ryein> ubuntu isn't working with the 970m
[22:36] <Ryein> ive tried everything
[22:38] <Ryein> almost every version of ubuntu and every version of nvidia driver
[22:38] <Ryein> even a fresh install
[22:39] <BadDream> Ryein
[22:39] <Ryein> BadDream, yes
[22:39] <BadDream> are you able to just try it from a live cd or live usb?
[22:39] <Ryein> It works with the open drivers
[22:39] <Bashing-om> Ryein: What release are you running ? Nvidia supports us well now .
[22:39] <Ryein> not the closed drivers
[22:39] <Ryein> ive tried 14.04 and 15.10
[22:40] <Ryein> I have the Razer Blade 2015
[22:40] <BadDream> when you were trying the proprietary drivers were you fully updating the system before switching to the proprietary driver?
[22:41] <Ryein> BadDream, yeah
[22:41] <BadDream> wat im thinking is maybe you were trying to use an older version of the proprietary drivers but if you update the system fully youll then have access to much newer version of the drivers.....do you remember wat version of the proprietary drivers you were trying to use? just roughly
[22:43] <wileee> Ryein, You should name the graphics hardware exactly, probably two cards.
[22:43] <wileee> lspci shows hardware
[22:43] <Ryein> wileee, it is two cards and i did i have a 970m
[22:43] <Ryein> wileee, is that not specific enough?
[22:43] <AEL-H> I am trying to mount my SD card elsewhere, but it says "too many symbolic links"
[22:43] <AEL-H> how can I rectify this?
[22:44] <wileee> Ryein, Not sure, not an area I really know, just thinking more might be better. ;)
[22:44] <Ryein> wileee, ok thanks
[22:45] <BadDream> Ryein where are you installing the drivers from?
[22:45] <wileee> AEL-H, Is it auto mounting now from a fstab entry?
[22:45] <Ryein> BadDream, nvidia, graphics-drivers ppa, default in repo
[22:46] <BadDream> Ryein can you go to settings and additional drivers for me please
[22:47] <BadDream> tell me what drivers youre currently using
[22:47] <AEL-H> wileee: how can I check this?
[22:47] <Ryein> BadDream, ive tried version 352 and 355
[22:47] <Ryein> currently 352 is the one supported by cuda 7.5 by default with the nvidia installer
[22:47] <Bashing-om> Ryein: What returns from terminal command ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[22:47] <fearghal> hello everybody.
[22:47] <fearghal> This damned "Fetch error... Hash sum mismatch" hit my Mint 17.1 Desktop. I tried many forum posts guidelines without success. so I'm here asking if any of you has a clue on how to fix this.
[22:48] <wileee> AEL-H, You would know, really it is hard to tell what is happening from here, better help on though.
[22:48] <BadDream> Ryein 352 is the version youre currently using? is it the proprietary tested version?
[22:48] <AEL-H> wileee: well I dont think it is
[22:49] <wileee> AEL-H, Have you made any symlinks to or from it?
[22:49] <Bashing-om> fearghal: Not have a thing against Mint, but the response here " on how to fix this " is install 'buntu .
[22:49] <AEL-H> wileee: no,
[22:49] <fearghal> Bashing-om: that's not a solution ;)
[22:50] <Ryein> sudo wget http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1404/x86_64/cuda-repo-ubuntu1404_7.0-28_amd64.deb
[22:50] <Ryein> this is the repo i added
[22:50] <fearghal> and besides this thing hits ubuntu as well
[22:50] <Bashing-om> !mint | fearghal
[22:51] <BadDream> Ryein i dont recomend instaling the drivers that way. i asked you to go to settings and additional drivers to physically see the current drivers being used and the options of which drivers are available. the process is very easy and should work fine if you follow instructions
[22:51] <Ryein> BadDream, i tried that bud
[22:51] <fearghal> Bashing-om: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008050
[22:52] <BadDream> well unless you can tell me the version youre using now specifically i cant help any further....you need to follow instructions to get help
[22:53] <kusochi> have you guys heard what happened to meizu's ubuntu phone?
[22:53] <Bashing-om> fearghal: Look'n see what I can advise on the forum .
[22:53] <Ryein> BadDream, i told you 352
[22:54] <BadDream> but you also said the nvidia drivers arent working so im left confused as to how you can actually be using 352 but are thinking you arent using them at the same time
[22:54] <fearghal> Bashing-om: so generally speaking, you know what causes this issue?
[22:55] <Ryein> BadDream, i have 352 installed but since it is a dual gpu setup with optimius with intel and nvidia only the intel gpu is working... switching to Nvidia doesn't work and I can't access CUDA using deviceQuery
[22:56] <AEL-H> what is mmcblk exactly?
[22:56] <BadDream> ahhhh i see now....because you arent actualy installing the correct drivers for the gpu....you need to find out specifically what gpu you have then seatch it in synaptic and install it along with all the depencies it requires....thats what i would do
[22:57] <tase> Hey guys I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 on my old laptop, 4 GB of RAM, do I want swap and do I want ext2 or 3 or 4 with Ubuntu ?
[22:57] <Ryein> BadDream, nvidia says 352.41 is supported
[22:58] <Ryein> http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/90279
[22:58] <Ryein> i haven't tried downloading them directly
[22:59] <wileee> tase, ext4 is the default, swap is your choice, needed for hibernate, I would have one.
[22:59] <BadDream> Ryein you do not have a 970m...you have a 970m and some intel processor stuck together that require a special driver...it is not called a 970m...theres another name for it...970m is just half the name...youre only trying to install half the drivers and its not working
[23:00] <Ryein> BadDream, i've never heard of that can you help me figure out which driver i am suppose to get then because nvidia doesn't list anything
[23:00] <BadDream> i would if you would tell e what gpu you actually have
[23:01] <BadDream> me*
[23:01] <Bashing-om> fearghal: Generally the cause is a corrupted control file, removeing and updates usually fix. As you are on Mint, I can not comment further.
[23:01] <tase> wileee, for swap, what kind of size, ram/2 = size ?
[23:01] <BadDream> it wouldnt be a gpu manufactured by nvidia Ryein...its a gpu that your laptop manufacturer had made specifically for them
[23:01] <wileee> tase, slightly larger than mem now like 4.1 gig
[23:02] <BadDream> Ryein maybe if you give me the serial number of your laptop i can search the system specs and we can go from there
[23:03] <Ryein> BadDream, it is a Razer Blade 2015
[23:04] <fearghal> Bashing-om: there seem to be different opinions on the matter. I read about people claiming that time fixes issue, or that it's a server issue, or that installing particular software may do that too, or internet filters... Strange.
[23:04] <BadDream> rye can you open synaptic and search gtx 970m ?
[23:04] <AEL-H> Why does cant I mount my SD card? All I get is "too many symbolic links"
[23:04] <BadDream> Ryein
[23:06] <BadDream> hmmm nothing comes up
[23:10] <BadDream> Ryein can you search nvidia-346 in synaptic? i think thats the driver you should be using
[23:12] <Ryein> BadDream, i found this https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/810964/linux/black-screen-after-prime-select-nvidia-and-log-out-using-v346-35-drivers/2/
[23:12] <Ryein> BadDream, can you explain what is happening here?
[23:14] <BadDream> Ryein that article is for using xorg drivers which has nothing to do with proprietary drivers. there are 3 types of drivers you can use. xorg and nouveau which are open source or you can use nvidia proprietary drivers
[23:16] <BadDream> i would recomend the proprietary drivers as long as they work fine as long as you dont have a thing about using closed sourced drivers...some people do....otherwise your choice are xorg or nouveau
[23:17] <BadDream> you should see all the options available in settings/additional drivers
[23:18] <Ryein> BadDream, https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/810964/?comment=4460566
[23:27] <Cernunnos> Guys I have a little bit of a problem on my hands
[23:27] <Cernunnos> I was playing around with CompizConfig and I did something
[23:27] <Cernunnos> and now well at least I got Unity working again but
[23:27] <Cernunnos> there's not like
[23:27] <Cernunnos> the bar on the top with the X button and such
[23:27] <Cernunnos> is gone
[23:27] <Cernunnos> also the hotkeys for snapping aren't working
[23:28] <Litmus2336> Reinstall Unity? Sounds like something got a bit messed up
[23:28] <Cernunnos> How?
[23:28] <wileee> Cernunnos, look up the unity and compiz reset for your release. Once normal use compz to save that model, than mess around.
[23:28] <Litmus2336> That too. Reset > Reinstalling
[23:29] <Cernunnos> wileee, I tried a tool called unity-reset and it runs in terminal but
[23:29] <Cernunnos> it gets to a certain point and then
[23:29] <Cernunnos> it boots me back to login screen
[23:29] <Ben64> don't use enter as punctuation
[23:29] <Cernunnos> where all the changes it was trying to make when I log back in
[23:29] <Cernunnos> are reverted
[23:29] <wileee> Cernunnos, read what I said for your release, this has changed slightly over time.
[23:30] <Cernunnos> Can somebody refer me to something?
[23:30] <Litmus2336> Are you on 15.04 or 14.04?
[23:30] <Cernunnos> 14.04
[23:30] <Litmus2336> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:30] <Litmus2336> Did you download the reset tool?
[23:30] <Cernunnos> ya
[23:30] <Cernunnos> same webpage I found too
[23:30] <Litmus2336> If not youy could try method B
[23:31] <Litmus2336> Then try this
[23:31] <Litmus2336> http://itsfoss.com/reset-unity-compiz-settings-ubuntu-1404/
[23:33] <Cernunnos> option B fixed it
[23:33] <Cernunnos> ok one more slightly less major issue lol
[23:33] <Cernunnos> Wait no nevermind
[23:33] <Cernunnos> Know how to fix this one
[23:34] <aarobc> Is there a ubuntu distro variant that hibernate works consistently on?
[23:35] <wileee> Cernunnos, Notice that compiz has a save function, when I used that desktop I saved the stock and my custom setup, the custom could just be loaded to another OS using compiz.
[23:35] <tase> Is it possible to do Remote Desktop to Ubuntu with the desktop Unity ?
[23:36] <Cernunnos> Not it's not letting me enable wobbly windows... And I assume anything else. Unity resets, boots me to the login screen and closes everything when I try.
[23:38] <wileee> Cernunnos, compiz is tricky, not every plugin works in every situation, the desktop has also changed in how it shows images, so it is a bit of a research involved understanding in the end.
[23:38] <Cernunnos> wileee, it was working before this predicament
[23:41] <Cernunnos> Alright we're good
[23:41] <Cernunnos> This time when it reset it actually saved me enabling it :P
[23:57] <tase> I installed Samba and tried connecting to it from a Windows computer, I typed in a user's name/pwd that exists on the Linux system, but it says permission denied. Do I need to add users to a samba group ?
[23:58] <[n0mad]> hmm, there's a tool that i used to setup my samba stuff