[00:59] <bluesabre> ochosi, as I recall, gtk3 themes don't read correctly from ~/.themes
[01:49] <drc> flocculant: Ping...thunar crash, same as before (SIGSEGV in thunar_file_compare_by name) :(
[01:53] <Unit193> Awwwh. :(
[03:54] <bluesabre> there we go, I wrote a thing https://smdavis.us/2015/10/12/xfce-panel-switch-introduction/ :)
[04:00] <bluesabre> bed time, night all
[21:11] <slickymaster> flocculant, I'll ping tomorrow morning about our email exchange
[21:12] <slickymaster> tbh, I'm still not completely sure I totally get what you meant 
[21:15] <flocculant> don't worry now :)
[21:15] <flocculant> at chapter 10 now btw
[21:16] <slickymaster> lol
[21:16] <slickymaster> I'm guessing that you'll drop by, sometime during the morning, right?
[21:17] <flocculant> be later in the day 
[21:18] <flocculant> not intending to push this till after 15.10 releases anyway - this wasn't for now but for 16.04 
[21:18] <slickymaster> no problem, if it's before 17:00
[21:19] <slickymaster> in our timezone
[21:19] <flocculant> I'm just getting ahead because I anticipate being busier next cycle than this one 
[21:19] <slickymaster> :)
[21:19] <slickymaster> well, it's the early bird
[21:20] <flocculant> and I said I would look at the whole docs thing for 16.04 
[21:20] <slickymaster> yeaps, 
[22:20] <ochosi> works quite well, the gtk3 port of xfce4-notifyd
[22:23] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:23] <bluesabre> hey ochosi 
[22:23] <bluesabre> is that nice and themeable?
[22:23] <ochosi> oh hey there
[22:23] <ochosi> it is
[22:23] <ochosi> the default themes have been ported
[22:24] <ochosi> the labels are centered, but other than that it's 1:1
[22:24] <ochosi> so we have a lot of theming freedom now
[22:25] <bluesabre> sweet
[22:26] <ochosi> the only thing it still doesn't do is draw a shadow
[22:26] <bluesabre> and the themes are all css now?
[22:26] <ochosi> i wonder whether i could hack that in with css though
[22:26] <ochosi> yeah
[22:26] <bluesabre> very nice
[22:26] <ochosi> ali must've ported it all in one day
[22:26] <ochosi> but we should really let some indent-bot go over his code, if you know what i mean ;)
[22:26] <bluesabre> :D
[22:27] <bluesabre> just open it with my current geany config, change all the lines
[22:27] <ochosi> yeah, that would be nice, if you could just do that for all the files he touched :D
[22:29] <ochosi> anyway, the most important fact is that it works and that it's done
[22:30] <ochosi> and since it's "just an app" it can be released anytime
[22:30] <ochosi> i'll prepare greybird so it supports it on day 1
[22:31] <bluesabre> very nice
[22:34] <ochosi> nice blog posts btw
[22:34] <bluesabre> thanks
[22:34] <ochosi> you should really do the xubuntu release notes in this style (i know it's a lot of work though)
[22:34] <bluesabre> got one or two more today/tomorrow
[22:35] <bluesabre> and a whats new in 15.10 on thursday
[22:35] <bluesabre> busy busy
[22:35] <ochosi> cool
[22:37] <bluesabre> ideally once I'm done, we'll have lots of screenshots for release notes
[22:37] <ochosi> yeah, that sounds lovely
[22:52] <ochosi> bluesabre: what was your opinion on the time-setting dialog for xfce4-settings btw?
[22:53] <bluesabre> ochosi: hm?
[22:53] <bluesabre> we do need one
[22:53] <bluesabre> and proper user management
[22:55] <ochosi> didn't you get the "memo"? :)
[22:56] <ochosi> there was an email on the xfce4-dev ml from someone who created a time-setting app
[22:56] <ochosi> well "created"
[22:56]  * bluesabre is awful at reading MLs
[22:56] <ochosi> more: forked from gnome2
[22:57] <ochosi> https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2015-October/031495.html
[22:57] <bluesabre> if forked means without gnome dependencies, thats a good starting point
[22:57] <bluesabre> I think it'd be a nice addition
[22:58] <ochosi> yeah, it's integrated in xfce4-settings, so there shouldn't be any depends
[22:58] <ochosi> i guess nick's original point was whether you need the map
[22:58] <ochosi> for something you run only once or twice
[22:58] <ochosi> have to say i sort of agree with him there
[22:59] <ochosi> if the map were re-used in other places somehow, i'd say alright that's nice
[23:00] <bluesabre> yeah... but sucks to drop to config file editing or installing gnome-* to change your clock
[23:00] <bluesabre> kind of like using mugshot to set your name
[23:00] <bluesabre> :D
[23:01] <Unit193> usermod!
[23:01] <bluesabre> D:
[23:02]  * bluesabre googles/mans everytime he has to create a new group or add a user
[23:02] <ochosi> :)
[23:03] <ochosi> i guess we should start by testing that branch
[23:03] <Unit193> Hardest part is going "Now is that bloody tool useradd, or adduser?!" >_<
[23:03] <Unit193> adduser unit193 sudo  is pretty easy to add a group.
[23:03] <bluesabre> "or is it some systemctl command now?"
[23:04]  * bluesabre did not know about adduser
[23:04] <bluesabre> :'(
[23:04] <Unit193> adduser bluesabre   and then it'll simply ask a few questions.
[23:07] <ochosi> anyway, night all!
[23:08] <ochosi> bluesabre: if you get around to trying the branch linked in the email lemme know
[23:08] <bluesabre> ochosi: will try to take it for a spin soon
[23:08] <ochosi> i'd be curious to know how well it works and whether it's "worth it"