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natorious | morning | 13:56 |
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Odd_Bloke | o/ | 14:02 |
Odd_Bloke | smoser: claudiupopa: harmw: harlowja: Around? | 14:03 |
smoser | hey! | 14:03 |
smoser | so.. i'm sprinting right now, so had kind of expected no meeting today, and kind of said that last week. | 14:04 |
smoser | that said... i'm here. whats up Odd_Bloke | 14:04 |
Odd_Bloke | Oh, I must have missed the "no meeting" last week. | 14:04 |
Odd_Bloke | *the "no meeting" comment | 14:04 |
smoser | how goes life, Odd_Bloke | 14:04 |
Odd_Bloke | Life is pretty good, thanks. | 14:05 |
Odd_Bloke | The work that we were aiming to land for wily has been pushed to the start of the x cycle, so I should be able to get back to devoting time to cloud-init 2.0. \o/ | 14:05 |
smoser | hey, good. | 14:05 |
smoser | so then. | 14:05 |
Odd_Bloke | So I'll revisit that taskflow change this week. | 14:06 |
smoser | we have lots of work to do :) | 14:06 |
smoser | i looked at deps on taskflow... | 14:06 |
smoser | very many | 14:06 |
Odd_Bloke | We discussed that before, harlowja says that a lot of those are only needed for specific functionality. | 14:07 |
Odd_Bloke | So could be changed to Recommends/Suggests (albeit with some work to ensure that they were only imported when needed). | 14:08 |
natorious | I'd figured no one would be here too :) | 14:08 |
smoser | alright. thats the biggest thing though. | 14:08 |
smoser | is just dependencies. | 14:08 |
smoser | i talked with someone last night who was lamenting the io that bringing up cloud-init on boot does. | 14:09 |
smoser | and having a huge stack of dependencies isn't going to help that. | 14:09 |
natorious | could have used some taskflow f/ configdrive for sure | 14:09 |
smoser | so i really have a goal of keeping the list of non-standard-library very small. | 14:09 |
Odd_Bloke | If we're worried about IO/startup time, why are we (still) using Python? :p | 14:10 |
smoser | thats a fair point. | 14:11 |
Odd_Bloke | Also, compared to a single call out to the network, I doubt I/O is actually that big a deal. | 14:13 |
Odd_Bloke | (Unless we're talking about I/O on a "hard drive" that's actually over the network, which shouldn't be the case for anything cloud-init is running from) | 14:14 |
openstackgerrit | Nate House proposed stackforge/cloud-init: [WIP] Adds ConfigDrive datasource. Throwing this out there for some initial feedback. https://review.openstack.org/234805 | 14:15 |
natorious | \o/ | 14:15 |
smoser | Odd_Bloke, well, this particular user was suggesting that just bringing up cloud-init was a significant cost. | 14:16 |
smoser | but yeah, i told him too that there are likely other reasons (some of them designed) that we are slowing down boot. | 14:16 |
smoser | ie, cloud-init is enforcing bottlenecks in boot by design so that it can allow user to insert actions at those points. | 14:17 |
natorious | it could have been like one of the devs from the go fork CoreOS uses trolling | 14:18 |
natorious | smoser: I hadn't added any tests for that ^^ yet. Looking to see how far off base I'd ventured beforehand | 14:20 |
Odd_Bloke | This is a difficult conversation to have without benchmarks. | 14:20 |
smoser | it is indeed. | 14:20 |
smoser | i do want to have benchmarks. | 14:20 |
Odd_Bloke | Or, indeed, targets for those benchmarks. | 14:20 |
smoser | yeah. | 14:20 |
Odd_Bloke | And, to some extent, we run in to a features vs. speed problem. | 14:22 |
Odd_Bloke | smoser: Unrelatedly, is looking for system_info/default_user/name in ssh-keygen -f "/home/daniel/.ssh/known_hosts" -R 130.211.103.50 | 14:37 |
Odd_Bloke | FFS. | 14:37 |
Odd_Bloke | smoser: Unrelatedly, is looking for system_info/default_user/name in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg a safe way for third-party software to determine the default username? | 14:37 |
Odd_Bloke | smoser: Or is there a better cloud-init-provided place to look? | 14:37 |
openstackgerrit | Nate House proposed stackforge/cloud-init: [WIP] Adds ConfigDrive datasource. Throwing this out there for some initial feedback. https://review.openstack.org/234857 | 15:57 |
smoser | harlowja, in cloud-init 0.7.x what is the command to generate the rtd stuff ? | 16:05 |
smoser | ie, if we want to render that outside of readthedocs | 16:06 |
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Diplomat | Hello! I have a quick question. Does anyone know how to set that password "adminPass" that OpenStack generates as root password? | 21:27 |
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