=== tpeoples is now known as tdp === tdp is now known as tpeoples === shardy is now known as shardy_afk === shardy_afk is now known as shardy [13:56] morning [14:02] o/ [14:03] smoser: claudiupopa: harmw: harlowja: Around? [14:03] hey! [14:04] so.. i'm sprinting right now, so had kind of expected no meeting today, and kind of said that last week. [14:04] that said... i'm here. whats up Odd_Bloke [14:04] Oh, I must have missed the "no meeting" last week. [14:04] *the "no meeting" comment [14:04] how goes life, Odd_Bloke [14:05] Life is pretty good, thanks. [14:05] The work that we were aiming to land for wily has been pushed to the start of the x cycle, so I should be able to get back to devoting time to cloud-init 2.0. \o/ [14:05] hey, good. [14:05] so then. [14:06] So I'll revisit that taskflow change this week. [14:06] we have lots of work to do :) [14:06] i looked at deps on taskflow... [14:06] very many [14:07] We discussed that before, harlowja says that a lot of those are only needed for specific functionality. [14:08] So could be changed to Recommends/Suggests (albeit with some work to ensure that they were only imported when needed). [14:08] I'd figured no one would be here too :) [14:08] alright. thats the biggest thing though. [14:08] is just dependencies. [14:09] i talked with someone last night who was lamenting the io that bringing up cloud-init on boot does. [14:09] and having a huge stack of dependencies isn't going to help that. [14:09] could have used some taskflow f/ configdrive for sure [14:09] so i really have a goal of keeping the list of non-standard-library very small. [14:10] If we're worried about IO/startup time, why are we (still) using Python? :p [14:11] thats a fair point. [14:13] Also, compared to a single call out to the network, I doubt I/O is actually that big a deal. [14:14] (Unless we're talking about I/O on a "hard drive" that's actually over the network, which shouldn't be the case for anything cloud-init is running from) [14:15] Nate House proposed stackforge/cloud-init: [WIP] Adds ConfigDrive datasource. Throwing this out there for some initial feedback. https://review.openstack.org/234805 [14:15] \o/ [14:16] Odd_Bloke, well, this particular user was suggesting that just bringing up cloud-init was a significant cost. [14:16] but yeah, i told him too that there are likely other reasons (some of them designed) that we are slowing down boot. [14:17] ie, cloud-init is enforcing bottlenecks in boot by design so that it can allow user to insert actions at those points. [14:18] it could have been like one of the devs from the go fork CoreOS uses trolling [14:20] smoser: I hadn't added any tests for that ^^ yet. Looking to see how far off base I'd ventured beforehand [14:20] This is a difficult conversation to have without benchmarks. [14:20] it is indeed. [14:20] i do want to have benchmarks. [14:20] Or, indeed, targets for those benchmarks. [14:20] yeah. [14:22] And, to some extent, we run in to a features vs. speed problem. [14:37] smoser: Unrelatedly, is looking for system_info/default_user/name in ssh-keygen -f "/home/daniel/.ssh/known_hosts" -R 130.211.103.50 [14:37] FFS. [14:37] smoser: Unrelatedly, is looking for system_info/default_user/name in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg a safe way for third-party software to determine the default username? [14:37] smoser: Or is there a better cloud-init-provided place to look? [15:57] Nate House proposed stackforge/cloud-init: [WIP] Adds ConfigDrive datasource. Throwing this out there for some initial feedback. https://review.openstack.org/234857 [16:05] harlowja, in cloud-init 0.7.x what is the command to generate the rtd stuff ? [16:06] ie, if we want to render that outside of readthedocs === zz_gondoi is now known as gondoi === gondoi is now known as zz_gondoi [21:27] Hello! I have a quick question. Does anyone know how to set that password "adminPass" that OpenStack generates as root password?