[01:02] <Ben64> i love when people actively argue for something dumb
[01:03] <Bashing-om> Pointless, and wasting our resources .
[01:06] <OerHeks> I don get it, the problem is with 'expensive'serversoftware ?
[01:08] <Ben64> i don't get it either
[01:08] <Ben64> ssh is easier to set up, more secure, secure out of the box, and 'just works'
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:07] <spider_> Haha, cmatrix, such nostalgia
[09:00] <daftykins> morning \o
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> :p
[09:14] <daftykins> ^_^
[09:14] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vx752or7x52fpo/IMG_20151008_072255.jpg?dl=0
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[09:14] <daftykins> nice sunrise last Thursday, when i left
[09:14] <daftykins> you can see a large cruise ship in front of the island of Herm, over on the left
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> nice1
[09:27]  * daftykins groans
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-phones-will-run-any-linux-application-on-top-of-unity-8-494496.shtml
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Firefox-Q
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> someone knows if webbrowser-app uses adobe flash
[09:39] <daftykins> hrmm
[09:40] <daftykins> i think flash functionality should be allowed to die
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> youtube works on it just tested it
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> but not sure how they support it
[09:40] <daftykins> plus i think firefox 42 is going to bring the per-process tabs
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> how to see dependecies with pat-cache again?
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> apt
[09:42] <daftykins> policy or showpkg
[09:42] <daftykins> i always forget which is which so do both :D
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> apt-cache showpkg did it :p
[09:43] <daftykins> \o/
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> alot of qt-plugins
[09:44] <HackerII> mind your own business
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:45] <daftykins> no, follow the rules else depart, HackerII.
[09:45] <HackerII> grow up
[09:45] <daftykins> that's wise advice, i suggest you follow it.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> common guys lets keep it nice
[09:45] <HackerII> im 60 , boy.
[09:45] <HackerII> now follow suit, or get out of the way
[09:46]  * cfhowlett adds another useful tool ... to /ignore
[09:46] <daftykins> very good advice, cfhowlett - no point enabling these special cases
[09:47] <HackerII> idk where kids these days get their intellect from.
[09:47] <cfhowlett> one more reason to love hexchat: point and click ignore actually works.  always failed in hexchat for some reason ...
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> webbrowser-app: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12779546/
[09:47] <cfhowlett> xchat
[09:49] <daftykins> have you guys seen the new Dell XPS 13?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> too new to be in china, but I know they haven't (yet) released a Developer Edition
[09:49] <daftykins> it's been refreshed with intel's 6th gen CPUs, (skylake) and so is claimed to do 18hrs battery now for the FHD model (1080p)
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> nice
[09:50] <cfhowlett> but if that battery is legit, I'd have to look hard at finding a way to get my hands on one
[09:50] <daftykins> it also has a thunderbolt 3 port with a USB C form factor :) so single cable gigabit LAN, multiple display output and USB 3.1 gen 2 etc
[09:51] <daftykins> it's an odd one really, the last model did 15hrs... and that was met fine by one site i read (anandtech.com) but a lot of other review sites do stupid things like play full HD video over wifi then claim that it didn't meet Dell's battery claims ¬_¬
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> bbl movie
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-15-10-might-ship-with-a-couple-of-annoying-trash-related-bugs-494518.shtml
[14:01] <OerHeks> first one is annoying indeed, it should not open, or open the trash folder.
[14:02] <OerHeks> 2nd one is nasty :-(
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:03] <cfhowlett> I don't think any recent bug was more harmful to ubuntu than the "dual boot?  delete ALL the windows!" on 14.04
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> loool
[14:03] <OerHeks> sounds like a GPT issue
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> oh wily...
[14:04]  * lotuspsychje will wait for dual X X
[14:05]  * cfhowlett will wait for 16.04.1 ...
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> gizmoooo
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> its very weird i never had 1 issue on trusty on all 50 boxes i installed it
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> all cable+updates and running smooth after
[14:14] <OerHeks> Me too, i envy those problem makers
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> i dont get all those trusty malfunctionings
[14:14] <OerHeks> only the trash bug happens here
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> lool
[14:14] <HackerII> el oh el
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> lol@cosmic
[14:20] <cfhowlett> hey it had to be said.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> its actually true
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> so many distro's without actual support
[14:21] <cfhowlett> but but but ... it's UBUNTU based, innit??
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> and ubuntu is debian
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> and debian is... atari
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> and ataris is..
[14:21] <cfhowlett> unix?  bsd?
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:22] <cfhowlett> I SO want to make the obvious comparison: So if you'd go to your proctologist to get your teeth filled?  Because a dentist IS a doctor, right?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:23] <cfhowlett> but .. that would be wrong
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> buy a bread at the butcher because its a store
[14:24] <cfhowlett> *though I HAVE mentioned Ms. Cleo a few times when people just magically expect someone to figure out their issue in the absence of meaningful detail
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> i have a prob!!! help!!
[14:35] <cfhowlett> leave your initials and Ms. Cleo will call you back with a solution!  Have your credit card ready!
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:54] <daftykins> Ms. Cleo earns a fine wage i'm sure
[14:54] <daftykins> :)
[14:54] <daftykins> i find that even funnier since it's the name of a friends cat
[14:54] <cfhowlett> well she did.  till she got caught and ...
[14:55] <cfhowlett> "She never saw it coming ..." [puts on the shades] YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> oO
[17:13] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> hi pauljw
[17:17] <pauljw> hey lotuspsychje :)
[17:40] <daftykins> cor we lost a lot of folk there
[17:44] <pauljw> brb
[19:24] <wileee> OerHeks, Sorry that was bad phishing, I was trying to get enough info from them, the graphics was basically it, I was thinking.
[19:24] <OerHeks> :-)
[19:25] <OerHeks> i am not sure why he is asking drive manager .. am i so fuzzy or what?
[19:25] <daftykins> don't hate me guys, but i have a mac in to fix tonight
[19:25] <wileee> heh, get him
[19:25] <OerHeks> daftykins, -10 points
[19:25] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:25] <daftykins> ;_;
[19:25] <daftykins> oh my client didn't rejoin #ubuntu when kornbluth died
[19:25] <daftykins> i thought we just had no questions!
[19:38] <pauljw> bbl
[22:08] <daftykins> well so far i'm not very impressed with installing the latest OS Apple have to offer :)
[22:08] <daftykins> sat at a progress bar!