| pitti | Good morning | 05:59 |
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| === nudtrobert1 is now known as nudtrobert | ||
| larsu | morning pitti! | 08:13 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:13 |
| TheMuso` | Hey desktoppers. | 08:14 |
| === TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso | ||
| qengho | 'sup. | 08:14 |
| willcooke | evening TheMuso | 08:14 |
| pitti | hey larsu, how are you? | 08:15 |
| * pitti waves to the desktoppers | 08:15 | |
| larsu | pitti: sick again :/ Not sure what's going on with me | 08:15 |
| larsu | pitti: how are you? | 08:15 |
| pitti | larsu: meh :( darn ubuflu? | 08:15 |
| larsu | pitti: I'd be patient 0 if so ;) | 08:15 |
| pitti | larsu: a bit groggy from basketball and staying up late, but okay otherwise, thanks | 08:15 |
| larsu | pitti: not many other desktoppers here yet. I here there was some sort of port involved last night ;) | 08:16 |
| larsu | *hear even | 08:16 |
| TheMuso | Hope you folks had a good time last night, wish I was there. | 08:17 |
| larsu | TheMuso: it was a lot of fun up until the part where I had to leave because I was too tired :) How are you? | 08:18 |
| TheMuso | larsu: Much better than I was earlier in the week thanks. | 08:18 |
| GunnarHj | Hi all, irrespective of what happened last night, I'd need help with sponsoring an im-config patch. It's bug #1481025, and it's a "must go in today" thing. Anyone? | 08:21 |
| ubot5` | bug 1481025 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Keyboard shortcut for layout switching works in Unity but not in Gnome-Flashback" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481025 | 08:21 |
| Laney | morning | 08:21 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: Trade for you looking at the broken mascot image in ubuntu-docs? | 08:22 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Are you sure it's broken? It works with en_US, and the rest will work when the translations have been built. | 08:23 |
| Laney | well I don't get it here | 08:23 |
| Laney | what do you mean? | 08:23 |
| larsu | morning Laney | 08:24 |
| larsu | how are you? | 08:24 |
| Laney | broken | 08:24 |
| larsu | :/ | 08:24 |
| Laney | dpkg --configure laney | 08:24 |
| larsu | *Laney | 08:24 |
| Laney | meow | 08:24 |
| larsu | what version you on? | 08:24 |
| * TheMuso -> EOD, later folks. | 08:25 | |
| GunnarHj | Laney: I mean that if you start yelp as "LANGUAGE=en_US yelp", it should show up. | 08:25 |
| Laney | yes, and C works too | 08:25 |
| Laney | so what fixes this? | 08:25 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Right. And the rest depends on the language-pack-gnome-XX-base packages, which haven't been built yet. Right, pitti? | 08:26 |
| Laney | so en_GB should work already then | 08:27 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: All other languages but en_US should work when those packages have been built. | 08:29 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Now, after this good news, any chance you can help with the im-config patch? ;) | 08:30 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: haven't been built yet> err, what? | 08:31 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Latest version from October 2, and the ubuntu-docs build happened after that. | 08:33 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: ah, ok; yeah, we'll get another fresh build; I just pinged infinity in #u-devel to ask when this should happen | 08:33 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Ok, that's what I (and Laney) am/are waiting for. :) | 08:34 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: -> happyaron :-) | 08:35 |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: Hi Aron, have you seen my corrections at bug #1481025? | 08:37 |
| ubot5` | bug 1481025 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Keyboard shortcut for layout switching works in Unity but not in Gnome-Flashback" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481025 | 08:37 |
| happyaron | GunnarHj: yes I'm reading that, just thinking I was correct for uploading the cjkv one, :) | 08:39 |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: You were indeed. You should have stopped me. ;) | 08:39 |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: Will you take care of the latest patch? | 08:40 |
| happyaron | yep for im-config | 08:40 |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: Great, then I'll go ahead and upload the l-s part. | 08:41 |
| happyaron | thanks | 08:41 |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: I made a stupid mistake, so you really don't need to thank me. But anyway, you're welcome. ;) | 08:42 |
| hikiko | hello :) | 08:47 |
| robert_ancell | mvo, what does sessioninstaller do? file-roller recommends it, does that seem like it still should? | 09:19 |
| robert_ancell | GunnarHj, does language-selector work with PackageKit? We're looking at removing aptdaemon. | 09:23 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, around? | 09:27 |
| darkxst | robert_ancell, maybe, just got home 1min ago | 09:28 |
| darkxst | whats up | 09:28 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, we're sprinting in London and were about to have a discussion about what version of GNOME for 16.04 - was wondering if you wanted to be involved. | 09:29 |
| darkxst | ok | 09:29 |
| darkxst | I need 15mins though | 09:30 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, np | 09:30 |
| mvo | robert_ancell: I think it used to install missing compressors and such | 09:30 |
| darkxst | irc? or hangouts? | 09:30 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, hangout probably works best | 09:30 |
| robert_ancell | mvo, I couldn't see any associated patch to file-roller to use it directly, so I guess if PackageKit is working then file-roller will just continue to work. | 09:31 |
| darkxst | ok, just let me grab some food first | 09:32 |
| darkxst | re packagekit, it uses aptdeamon, shit breaks if you use apt-cc backend (like debian does) | 09:32 |
| darkxst | language-selector uses aptdeamon | 09:33 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, we're looking at fixing the issues in apt-cc and dropping aptdaemon | 09:33 |
| mvo | robert_ancell: yeah, session-installer is providing a PK session compatible API | 09:34 |
| robert_ancell | mvo, ah | 09:34 |
| darkxst | robert_ancell, I am all for that, but pitti doesnt like apt-cc | 09:39 |
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| pitti | well, 'like' -- it doesn't support plugins any more, but that ship has sailed long ago already anyway | 09:40 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, let us know when you're ready | 09:40 |
| pitti | with that we lost the feature that if you install a package it also installs necessary langpacks | 09:41 |
| pitti | it's not the end of the world of course | 09:41 |
| darkxst | robert_ancell, eating, about 10 mins | 09:41 |
| pitti | darkxst: didn't we drop the apt backend several releases ago already anyway? | 09:41 |
| darkxst | setup a hangout I'll join it when I'm done | 09:42 |
| darkxst | pitti, did we ever use apt-cc? I don't think so | 09:42 |
| darkxst | of course packagekit also has the older python? apt backend but that is different | 09:42 |
| pitti | darkxst: aren't we now? packagekit-backend-apt still exists in precise, not after that | 09:43 |
| darkxst | pitti, apt-cc conflicts with aptdaemon | 09:43 |
| pitti | darkxst: well, "now" -> if you actually use packagekit, of course | 09:43 |
| pitti | with aptdaemon we obviously use that, and have plugins, right | 09:44 |
| darkxst | apt-cc also has no support for locale provides, but ximion would take that upstream | 09:44 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, ok, let's just do it on IRC then. seb128 Laney larsu attente anyone else who cares | 09:45 |
| seb128 | https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GTK+/Roadmap | 09:46 |
| robert_ancell | I think everyone is pretty much agreed here to go with 3.18 for GNOME | 09:46 |
| robert_ancell | attente was keen to go to 3.20 for GTK+ because it has some features for GTK+ Mir | 09:46 |
| seb128 | looking a GTK, 3.20 would be good for the mir backend/the things attente is working on | 09:46 |
| robert_ancell | desrt too | 09:46 |
| seb128 | but " Merge GSK " seems a bit scary | 09:46 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, does that match what you guys want in Ubuntu GNOME? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | unsure how much the scene graph impacts | 09:47 |
| seb128 | is that new code/backend | 09:47 |
| seb128 | or going to impact x11 rendering? | 09:47 |
| seb128 | https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/DeveloperExperience2014/GtkRoadmap#A4._A_scene_graph. | 09:47 |
| robert_ancell | Sounds likely to cause bugs, probably would not be perfectly ironed out until 3.22 | 09:48 |
| * robert_ancell watches the tumbleweed go past | 09:50 | |
| darkxst | robert_ancell, I can do a hangout now | 09:50 |
| darkxst | I don't think the scene graph stuff is ready to land yet? | 09:52 |
| ricotz | seb128, afaik gsk will only be used and impact new widgets | 09:52 |
| seb128 | ricotz, the second link states "The first step is to get a scene drawn inside a GtkWidget " | 09:53 |
| seb128 | so it seems like it has potential for quite some code change/creating issues | 09:53 |
| ricotz | I think this widget would be some kind of new container with the needed api to go further | 09:55 |
| darkxst | gnome has been pretty stable the last few releases, but you never know when they decide to go and break stuff at the last minute] | 09:55 |
| ricotz | I doubt that literally GtkWidget is meant here | 09:55 |
| ricotz | sorry, g2g | 09:56 |
| robert_ancell | https://hangouts.google.com/call/ab27fjkv4ryjrpunjw4xrsytcia | 09:58 |
| seb128 | darkxst, ^ want to join? | 09:59 |
| seb128 | ricotz, bye | 09:59 |
| darkxst | seb128, trying to join | 10:00 |
| seb128 | darkxst, we can't hear you | 10:01 |
| seb128 | do you hear us? | 10:01 |
| darkxst | seb128, I can hear you | 10:02 |
| seb128 | darkxst, doesn't work? | 10:02 |
| darkxst | seb128, apparently no sound | 10:03 |
| seb128 | we can't hear you... | 10:03 |
| seb128 | darkxst, can you try to reconnect? | 10:04 |
| darkxst | ok | 10:04 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:04 |
| davmor2 | seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1506396 | 10:10 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1506396 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Desktop scaling from 2→1 on dell xps doesn't resize to screen dimensions" [Undecided,New] | 10:10 |
| seb128 | davmor2, thanks | 10:11 |
| darkxst | seb128, that was a pretty shallow meeting, but if you guys reallly want to switch, and we are for it, you will need to find a server to generate metadata | 10:39 |
| seb128 | darkxst, is debian going this way? | 10:40 |
| darkxst | seb128, yes, but so far its only hooked in tanglu, but they have a dedicated server generating the data | 10:40 |
| darkxst | ximion was talking about getting a meta-data package into ubuntu for kubuntu, but that is just a hack | 10:41 |
| darkxst | debian already defaults to apt-cc backend so a little easier for them | 10:42 |
| darkxst | (and kubuntu also) | 10:42 |
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| chrisccoulson | What was that? | 12:52 |
| Sweet5hark | shut up guys, I wanna work. | 12:52 |
| chrisccoulson | stop poking me seb128 | 12:53 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| pitti | chrisccoulson: just feed him some stollen, and he'll become really friendly! | 13:13 |
| seb128 | yummy! | 13:14 |
| chrisccoulson | hah! :) | 13:14 |
| * Sweet5hark remembers that for the next crappy package he wants to get sponsored. | 13:15 | |
| cking | seb128, any progress on zfs? | 13:16 |
| seb128 | cking, I did new spl-linux and looking at zfs now but it's not a trivial package | 13:18 |
| cking | seb128, ack, indeed | 13:19 |
| qengho | Will zfs integrate with gnome-disks and such? It crosses so many layers, it seems hard. | 13:22 |
| cking | qengho, no entirely sure | 13:26 |
| cking | *not | 13:26 |
| Riddell | pitti: apport test failure reported on konsole looks like a network issue? lots of "ERROR: Package download error" | 13:33 |
| Sweet5hark | hmmm, so cnn published the current top 50 bars of the world and 9 of them are in London. I wonder, if we should use that information for Great Good(tm) ... http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/09/foodanddrink/world-50-best-bars-2015/index.html | 13:33 |
| qengho | +1 | 13:34 |
| popey | Sweet5hark: any chance you can join us in #ubuntu-touch-meeting | 14:02 |
| robert_ancell | qengho, does bug 1506483 look reasonable to you? | 14:12 |
| ubot5` | bug 1506483 in Light Display Manager "Cannot "killall chromium" from a guest session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1506483 | 14:12 |
| qengho | robert_ancell: reasonable, yes. SRU-worthy, I an not so sure. | 14:14 |
| qengho | I'll leave that up to you~. | 14:14 |
| robert_ancell | qengho, yeah, I'm not going to SRU it, but wanted to check if it should go onto trunk | 14:14 |
| qengho | robert_ancell: LGTM | 14:15 |
| robert_ancell | qengho, thanks | 14:15 |
| Pharmasolin | willcooke: i will need to get some fixed bug from Unity bug tracker and write steps for reproduce for specific bug, that were fixed? | 14:16 |
| Pharmasolin | willcooke: it is from our yesterday conversation i were afk and you exit irc later | 14:16 |
| Pharmasolin | willcooke: we were talking about U7 test cases | 14:16 |
| willcooke | Pharmasolin, just talking to davmor2 about some of the options | 14:19 |
| Pharmasolin | willcooke: ok | 14:21 |
| Sweet5hark | r | 15:21 |
| qengho | chrisccoulson: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+files/firefox_41.0.2.orig.tar.bz2 | 15:34 |
| chrisccoulson | qengho, thanks | 15:34 |
| Laney | Trevinho: http://5digits.org/pentadactyl/ | 15:44 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, do you see anything wrong with http://paste.ubuntu.com/12791538/ | 15:52 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=8bd98c08aa380dd31273b4377ef6417f9946c941 | 16:06 |
| seb128 | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=3df565cbf737ec6ad87b9d8eae21a1213e656fd2 | 16:07 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I guess fixed in https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=b6bf982289273c1416ba66281b8c09a1ee6a33a4 | 16:08 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: Nudging you about the MP at bug #1499088. There are also a couple of unreleased revisions in trunk, so there should indeed be another upload of ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu before final freeze. | 17:06 |
| ubot5` | bug 1499088 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu Wily) "Text is unreadable (dark-on-dark) in ubiquity slideshow "Help & Support" slide, when installing Ubuntu 15.10" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499088 | 17:06 |
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| cyphermox | GunnarHj: cool, you ready to upload ubuntu-docs? | 17:17 |
| cyphermox | scratch that, I see it happened alredy | 17:17 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: Right. | 17:17 |
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