[01:03] <mhall119> wxl: is he an Ubuntu member?
[06:50] <dholbach> good morning
[07:04] <philipballew> dholbach, hen man
[07:05] <dholbach> hen man? :)
[07:05] <dholbach> hey philipballew
[07:06] <philipballew> shoot, I typed that and wanted to say hey dholbach
[07:06] <dholbach> thought so :)
[07:06] <philipballew> apparently I have a subconscious love for chickens
[07:09] <dholbach> hehe
[07:31] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[07:34] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[07:42] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, popey, fyi, I'm starting on social media figures
[07:42] <dholbach> dpm, davidcalle, popey: do you guys still need anything from me?
[07:43] <davidcalle> dholbach, always :D
[07:43]  * dholbach awaits details
[07:43] <dpm> dholbach, I think I'm fine, yesterday was a bit of a distractive day with the security incident, but will definitely ping you if I need something :)
[07:44] <dholbach> ok, cool
[07:44] <davidcalle> dholbach, nothing for me as well :)
[07:44] <dholbach> it's snowing here in Bavaria - it's the wet kind of snow, but still: it's mid October!
[07:46] <dpm> oh wow
[08:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, o_O
[08:19] <davidcalle> dpm, done with social stats
[08:21]  * davidcalle notes that we are missing identi.ca figures
[08:24]  * dpm hasn't heard that name mentioned in 5 years
[08:28] <philipballew> maybe you guys need a Myspace and Diaspora page while you are at it.
[08:29] <dpm> a My...what!??? :)
[08:36]  * dholbach goes and tends to his tamagotchi
[08:36] <dholbach> brb
[08:37] <popey>  :)
[09:22] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:27] <popey> o/
[11:04] <dholbach> davidcalle, new twist in the md-import story: in my simple test-case imported articles end up in the wrong place in the tree structure no matter if it's sqlite or postgres
[11:05]  * davidcalle jumps out the window
[11:06] <dholbach> I'll play around with it a bit more, then write up instructions along with test-case and push up a branch which outputs some more debug info
[11:06] <dholbach> davidcalle, I feel like this is going to be a much more fixable problem than having to figure out why sqlite and postgres behave differently :)
[11:07]  * davidcalle comes back with a kebab
[11:07] <davidcalle> dholbach, looking forward to trying it, do you think our approach needs to be changed or we'll be able to fix the current design?
[11:08] <dholbach> I could imagine that it's a matter of doing it wrong
[11:09] <dholbach> unfortunately there are not too many examples of the cms.api.create_page() usage (or messing around with the tree structure)
[11:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, and nice trick jumping out of the window just to return with a kebab
[11:10] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've looked into the cms source to understand it, but it ended up being quite intricate (you know how django is with long-distance imports and a lot of files involved)
[11:11] <dholbach> yes
[11:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'm actually going to grab a real one now :) brb
[11:11] <dholbach> enjoy!
[12:45] <jcastro> hey dpm
[12:45] <jcastro> did you get my mail wrt fosdem/cfgmgmtcamp?
[12:46] <dpm> jcastro, hey
[12:46] <dpm> sorry, I did, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet
[12:47] <jcastro> oh ok, just making sure you got it
[12:47] <jcastro> it's still 107+ days out, so no worries
[12:47] <dpm> jcastro, can it wait until Monday, or is this something you need me to look at today? I don't want to be a blocker
[12:47] <jcastro> I am not blocking on anything
[12:47] <dpm> ok, cool
[12:47] <jcastro> I was just making sure it's on your radar at some point
[12:48] <jcastro> however if you guys get slammed I need to do fosdem anyway so I can help lead the planning if you'd like
[12:48] <dpm> yes, it is, I'm all over events atm :)
[12:49] <dpm> it might be good to catch up on it next Wed on the team call then
[12:49] <jcastro> nod
[12:49] <dpm> are you on the road next week?
[12:49] <jcastro> nope, back to normalcy until the end of the year
[12:49] <dpm> ok, cool
[12:49] <dpm> so I'll look at it before and we can then discuss the details and look at events in the team call
[12:50] <jcastro> yeah I have a call with the events planner on Monday so by wed I should know what's going on.
[12:51] <dpm> great
[12:54] <dpm> dholbach, popey, davidcalle, unless I'm missing something, I haven't seen much of a media reaction re: the security incident, have you?
[12:55] <dholbach> no, not up until now
[12:56] <popey> no
[12:57] <davidcalle> Same
[12:58] <popey> i think the fact that the number of affected users was so small, and we dropped it from the store so rapidly, really helped us
[12:58] <popey> but if the app had been named "WhatsApp" we would have probably had more issues
[13:08] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'm back to where I was earlier - it breaks postgres and sqlite is fine
[13:08] <dholbach> sorry for the confusion earlier
[13:08] <davidcalle> dholbach, oh
[13:09] <dholbach> I had a couple of test environments open - I guess I was looking at the wrong thing
[13:10] <davidcalle> dholbach, so I guess the difference comes from the way django interacts with db types, or the way/order the db processes commands
[13:11] <dholbach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1506861
[13:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1506861 in developer-ubuntu-com "Markdown article importer messes up article tree" [Undecided,New]
[13:16] <dholbach> davidcalle, I was thinking that if somebody confirmed the test case and it all made generally made sense, I'd ask upstream for help
[13:23] <dholbach> davidcalle, I think I'm going crazy
[13:23] <dholbach> ah, no
[13:23] <dholbach> nevermind
[13:23] <dholbach>  /o\
[13:24] <davidcalle> dholbach, hmm...
[13:25] <davidcalle> (I'm trying to test it, but my mouse cursor has suddenly disappeared)
[13:25] <davidcalle> (not your fault)
[13:25] <davidcalle> (maybe)
[13:25] <davidcalle> :p
[13:26] <popey> dpm: dholbach http://www.heise.de/security/meldung/Auch-Ubuntu-Phone-hat-seine-Sicherheitsluecken-2849370.html just went live
[13:26] <popey> i can't read that foreign tho
[13:27] <dholbach> it states the facts, no judgement or anything
[13:27] <dholbach> but the title says "Ubuntu Phone also has its security holes"
[13:27] <popey> the usual heise way
[13:27] <popey> well, it did
[13:29] <dpm> ah, thanks popey for the heads up
[13:29] <popey> np
[13:37] <dholbach> davidcalle, sorry - had to update the instructions again - let me know which problem you're seeing :)
[13:39]  * davidcalle gives up on mouse cursor, restarts session
[13:42] <dholbach> I promise - I didn't steal davidcalle's mouse cursor!
[13:43] <dholbach> davidcalle, it wasn't me!
[13:44] <davidcalle> :)
[13:58] <popey> I am impressed at the reaction to Lukasz' mail on the phone list.
[13:59] <popey> people are super positive and thankful they're getting detailed insights when things mess up
[14:05] <davidcalle> popey, +1
[14:05] <davidcalle> dholbach, can confirm your test case
[14:06] <dholbach> thanks davidcalle
[14:06] <dholbach> does it generally make sense?
[14:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, it does
[14:07] <dholbach> ok cool
[14:08] <dholbach> maybe I'll just send it off to djangocms in a bit
[14:27] <davidcalle> dholbach, your script is super useful, I'm removing all the special casing done for the "current" namespace and things like hidden landing pages.
[14:27] <davidcalle> And iterating with a clean db is so nice :)
[14:28]  * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[14:28] <davidcalle> dholbach, on a related note, nope, these ^ are not involved in the issue
[14:39] <dholbach> davidcalle, thanks a lot for confirming and helping out
[15:41] <dholbach> dpm, snappy clinic for Monday is scheduled and we've got the content almost together as well :)
[15:42] <dpm> great work dholbach!
[15:42] <dholbach> and I'll contact the djangocms folks with a testcase in a bit too
[15:42] <dpm> dholbach, do we have a URL we can point folks to? I think it'd be good to start announcing the clinic on the social media today, if the date is set
[15:43] <dholbach> dpm, yes - I'm on it
[15:43] <dpm> excellent
[15:57] <dholbach> dpm, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-app-devel/2015-October/000400.html
[15:58] <dholbach> I'll blog it too
[16:03] <jose> dholbach: it's on the calendar now
[16:03] <dholbach> <3
[16:03] <dholbach> thanks a bunch jose!
[16:08] <dpm> thanks dholbach!
[16:09] <dpm> and thanks jose!
[16:09] <jose> np :)
[16:09] <jose> are those gonna be regulars?
[16:15] <davidcalle> dpm, do you need anything else for the presentation?
[16:18] <dpm> davidcalle, that's all for now, thanks so much
[16:18] <davidcalle> dpm, cool :)
[16:19]  * davidcalle drives home, ttyl all and have a nice week-end o/
[16:19] <dpm> have a nice one davidcalle!
[16:19] <davidcalle> Thanks :)
[16:23] <dholbach> jose, yeah, but we'll have to figure out which time works best for them
[16:23] <dholbach> so probably not regularly at the time yte
[16:23] <dholbach> yet
[16:23] <dholbach> dpm, mhall119: I posted  https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1506861  with some context to https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/django-cms but it hasn't turned up there yet.......
[16:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1506861 in developer-ubuntu-com "Markdown article importer messes up article tree" [Critical,New]
[16:23] <dholbach> I'll check later on again
[16:24] <dholbach> but will go offline for dinner and weekend stuff now
[16:24] <dholbach> have a good one everyone!
[17:57] <wxl> mhall119: not to be pesty but any luck on the community donations request?
[17:57] <wxl> also, did we get enough nominations for the cc? i'd like to post a blog up somewhat in time with when the announcement of candidates goes out. anyone know when?
[20:14] <czajkowski> wxl: waiting on mark to review the nominations
[20:17] <wxl> czajkowski: but you do have enough nominations? or not sure?
[20:19] <czajkowski> wxl: I've not counted them all I think we do but not access to my email right now as in the middle of stuff
[20:19] <czajkowski> sorry
[20:19] <wxl> np, czajkowski. thank you :)