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Pwnnacjwatson: yeah this thing i'm working on is all about this.01:26
Pwnnacjwatson: so if my file, /a is not in conffile and present in version 1.0, when i update the package to version 1.1, which no longer include the file /a, it will get automatically removed?01:27
Pwnnaand if 1.0 depend on b, which depends on a. and 1.1 don't depend on b anymore, will b and a be removed?01:30
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ScottKNot without an additional command.01:31
ScottKThey'll no longer be required to met the dependency, so apt-get autoremove would remove them.01:32
Pwnnahm so i should apt-get upgrade and then autoremove if i want this?01:32
sarnoldthe deborphan / orphaner programs can be helpful to clean up machines that have gone through a dozen upgrades01:33
sarnoldthey require a careful use, of course, but they're helpful01:33
Pwnnawait what's the difference between deborphan and autoremove?01:34
Unit193sarnold: Plus  dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | grep obso  and debsums.01:35
Pwnnai'm not quite sure i understand the difference from this description.01:35
Pwnnadoes it show manually installed packages too?01:35
sarnoldPwnna: I've used them all for a decade and still don't know the exact differences :)01:35
sarnoldUnit193: heh, dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | grep obso | wc -l  -> 3001:37
sarnoldUnit193: I hadn't seen that before, thanks.01:37
Unit193sarnold: Yeeeeah, can drive you nuts.  Means someone didn't do packaging right. ;)01:37
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pittiGood morning04:23
pittistgraber: nice work on lxd!04:28
pittibarry: yay for fixing pex!04:29
pittiwhat a morning, so little stuff being stuck in -proposed :)04:29
barrypitti: that was a fun one :)04:29
pittibarry: eww @ bug 1485093, what on earth is that doing??04:31
ubottubug 1485093 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Wily) "python3-distupgrade contains symlink to externally owned directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148509304:31
barrypitti: it's madness04:31
* barry really needs to go to sleep04:34
pittiwgrant: hm, didn't get an export on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+language-packs -- did it crash or so?04:53
pittiinfinity: ^ FYI, langpack delay04:53
wgrantpitti: Yeah, it died, apparently :/04:54
wgrantpitti: Should I kick another one off now?04:54
pittiwgrant: please04:54
infinitypitti: Right, hopefully we get those soon. :P04:56
pittiwgrant: a full export takes how long now? some 6 hours?04:57
wgrantpitti: A little under four hours, usually.04:58
pittiah, good04:58
pittiOMFG, is scalingstack lcy01 down *again*04:59
pittiERROR: HTTPConnectionPool(host='', port=5000): Max retries exceeded with url: /v2.0/tokens (Caused by <class 'httplib.BadStatusLine'>: '')04:59
wgrantIt keeps running into some very unfortunate situations.04:59
pittiit was shaky in the last few days already05:00
wgranthaha you have no idea05:00
pittiI got all kinds of weird errors05:00
wgrantJunien should be around in a bit to sort it out.05:00
pittiah, did you already talk to IS? I was about to raise an RT05:00
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sarnoldpitti: thanks for the postgresql updates06:26
pittisarnold: thanks for publishing them06:26
dholbachgood morning06:50
sladenstill a tad dull and wet here06:52
dokoroaksoax, look at python3-twisted-experimental. it has all the modules which should be supported in python309:05
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Saviqmorphis, ok so I still have trouble with BT on vivid/flo, it worked fine on first boot after flashing, but is gone after a reboot09:29
Saviqmorphis, had to run bluetoothd manually to get it back, pointers on which of the bluetooth{,-touch{,-flo}} upstart jobs should work?09:33
dokomwhudson, the example was given to me by dobey. I just played around with it until it could be built.09:34
ckingis it possible for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/1491729, to sponsored, it's been waiting ~6 weeks09:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1491729 in dkms (Ubuntu) "[FFE]: dkms: add module build ordering for ZFS on Linux" [High,In progress]09:52
pittiseb128, wgrant: yay, we have a wily export! /me turns the crank09:56
seb128pitti, \o/09:56
morphisSaviq: I am currently setting up my flo to see if I can reproduce that11:06
morphisSaviq: the bluetooth-touch-flo one should work11:06
morphisdoes it fail to start?11:07
Saviqmorphis, I just rebooted, no BT indicator icon11:07
Saviqmorphis, but it seems like it actually works11:08
morphiswhat does hciconfig -a say?11:08
morphisdoes it list the hci0 device as up?11:08
Saviqmorphis, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12797827/11:09
Saviqmorphis, ok, it seems to actually be working11:11
Saviqmorphis, so the problem seems to be in the bluetooth indicator service that says it's not11:11
dokotvoss, is mediascanner2 in -proposed still targeted for wily?11:12
morphisSaviq: can you run /usr/bin/bluez-test-adapter ?11:13
tvossdoko, need to dispatch, pstolowski is your friend11:13
Saviqmorphis, what command?11:13
morphisSaviq: just /usr/bin/bluez-test-adapter11:14
Saviqmorphis, that just showed me a list of commands to run11:14
dokotvoss, not here, which channel?11:14
Saviqmorphis, list said http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12797849/11:14
morphislooks good11:14
Saviqmorphis, but it took ~10s11:14
morphisSaviq: so seems to be a problem with the indicator11:14
tvossdoko, #ubuntu-touch11:14
morphisSaviq: really?11:14
Saviqmorphis, well, maybe not 1011:14
Saviqmorphis, ah, it suspended11:15
Saviqmorphis, it's fine, device was just slow because suspended11:15
Saviqmorphis, ok so yeah, you're off the hook, indicator to blame11:16
morphisthrough settings everything works?11:16
Saviqmorphis, yeah, and restarting BT indicator seems to fix it, too11:16
Saviqmorphis, will follow up with charles11:17
morphisSaviq: can you check in .cache/upstart if there is a log file for the indicator?11:17
morphisSaviq: btw. the indicator will change quite a bit with the BlueZ5 upgrade11:17
Saviqmorphis, there is one, but just one msg about rfkill11:17
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morphisSaviq: can you paste it?11:17
Saviq** (process:2132): CRITICAL **: rf_kill_switch_real_try_set_blocked: assertion '_tmp1_ != _tmp2_' failed11:18
Saviqmorphis, .1.gz had http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12797881/11:19
Saviqmorphis, on reboot I got ** (process:2128): CRITICAL **: bluez.vala:104: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.bluez: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 111:19
morphisI saw that one before11:19
Saviqand no BT icon11:19
Saviqlooks like a race maybe11:19
morphisand it doesn't find the adapter11:20
Saviqindicator starts too early and doesn't try again later11:20
Saviqmorphis, ok, that helps a lot, will file bug with i-b11:20
morphisSaviq: before you file a bug11:20
Saviqtry BZ511:21
Saviqwill do11:21
Saviqlater today11:21
morphisif that doesn't work too, then we need to file the bug11:21
morphisSaviq: if you file please add the tags "bluetooth" and "bluez5"11:21
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dokoapw, cking, zfs-linux on ppc64el is an acute schizophrenic mood about it's endianess ...12:27
ckingdoko, yup, thanks, I'm aware of this bizarre schizomode12:28
Odd_BlokeI'm looking at python-taskflow; it Depends on a bunch of things that provide optional behaviour; if I wanted to trim some of these dependencies out, can I just demote them to (Recommends|Suggests) and test core functionality works without them installed, or do I need to do something more complex?13:00
rbasakOdd_Bloke: it's pretty normal in Ubuntu to do what you described when the dependencies are in universe.13:02
rbasakOdd_Bloke: it's common for python packages to build-depend on most of their dependencies so that tests can be run as part of the package build; you might need to check those too.13:03
rbasakThis is assuming that there's no other need to keep the functionality you're dropping, of course.13:03
Odd_Blokerbasak: Would having all the packages in Build-Depends but then as (Recommends|Suggests) in the binary package be a problem?13:06
Odd_BlokeOh, it might be a problem for main inclusion down the line.13:07
Odd_BlokeI missed the 'build and' in "All build and binary dependencies (including Recommends:) must be satisfyable in main".13:09
Odd_BlokeOh, no, python-taskflow is already in main.13:10
rbasakOdd_Bloke: what are you actually trying to do?13:18
rbasakOdd_Bloke: fix a component mismatch or something else?13:18
Odd_Blokerbasak: We're considering python-taskflow as a cloud-init 2.0 dependency; as things stand, installing it increases image size by ~50MB.13:19
rbasakI see13:19
rbasakI think it's an openstack dependency too13:19
rbasakProbably worth having a look for other reverse deps13:19
rbasakAs long as every consumer is happy I see no issue in trying to slim it down13:20
Odd_BlokeOK, cool.13:20
Odd_BlokeATM I'm just trying to get a sense of how small a footprint it could have, and work out if we're happy with that.13:21
Odd_BlokeBut didn't want to do so in a way that couldn't possibly fly in the archive. :)13:21
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dokopitti, jamespage: looks like you didn't merge the debian packaging for mongodb?  don't see why google-perftools should be an arch-specific b-d13:56
jdstrandpitti: hey, curious if otoh you know why if I'm building in a schroot I sometimes, but not always, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12799014/14:02
jdstrandpitti: google didn't help me. if you don't know otoh, don't bother wasting time14:03
jdstrandit is weird though. cause I tried to build something, it failed with that. I do nothing else and try again, and it works14:03
jdstrandthis has been happening for a while now. not a new thing14:04
pittijdstrand: I think I've seen it in some bug report, but no clue I'm afraid14:34
pittijdstrand: stracing dpkg might help, if you can reproduce it14:35
jdstrandpitti: normally I just update the schroot so it doesn't have to upgrade that package during a build14:35
jdstrandpitti: thanks14:36
pittijdstrand: ah14:36
pittijdstrand: might be an overlayfs bug?14:36
pittijdstrand: I use tarball schroots, but I've never seen this in my sid schroot (which is overlayfs) either14:36
jdstrandwhy yes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12799337/14:37
pittijdstrand: go overlayfs :)14:39
pittidoko: maybe; I fixed an FTBFS during the g++ migration, but that doesn't mean that I now take over maintenance of this :)14:40
hallyn_xnox: ping15:11
hallyn_(re https://mentors.debian.net/package/netcf)15:11
xnoxhallyn_: yes.15:16
xnoxhallyn_: again, new, or did i not do an old one?15:17
xnoxah new upstream release15:17
seb128mvo, hey, do you know what app-install-data-partner is used by/for?15:25
seb128it didn't get updated since 13.04 it seems15:25
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mvoseb128: its so that the stuff in the canonical partner archive has icons and can be installed15:33
seb128mvo, is there a process to refresh it? should that be done or did the data not change since raring?15:34
mvoseb128: I think it should get updated - or we just drop it given that its not well maintained15:37
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seb128mvo, is the process to update it documented?15:38
hallyn_xnox: yeah, you'd looked at it a few days or weeks ago (time flies) but at EOD15:41
hallyn_xnox: the experimental version still FTBFS so ideally this version would just repalce it without a need for a separate fix15:41
roaksoaxdoko: yeah I saw that, but that made me ask the question. We were hoping on moving be moving to python3 in MAAS, but the experimental part of twisted makes us wonder whether this is a blocker or not15:45
dokoroaksoax, just pretend that you don't see it. I introduced that some years ago15:46
dokowaiting for free to package 15.4, and then build both python packages from the same source15:46
roaksoaxdoko: ok, cool!15:47
mvoseb128: its manual unfortunately16:00
mvoseb128: no automatic update script or anything, it used to be such a small number of packages that it was not worth automating16:00
infinitypitti: Any idea what's up with the systemd and apport failures?16:57
xnoxhallyn_: is this upload to experimental or unstable then?17:01
seb128infinity, he wrote that earlier about the apport one17:02
seb128<pitti> seb128: I just saw it failing, no idea yet; appareantly some changes on ddebs.u.c.17:02
seb128 seb128: I hinted it for now, will look when it's not release crunch time17:02
hallyn_xnox: unstable17:03
xnoxhallyn_: cool.17:03
hallyn_xnox: that'll then automatically supersede the (older) experimental version right?17:06
xnoxhallyn_: si17:06
hallyn_awesome - thanks17:08
infinityseb128: Ahh, indeed, he did force apport.  I'll see if a systemd retry clears that one up.17:09
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pittiinfinity: apport> ah, seb128 already quoted17:50
pittiinfinity: I retried systemd, that looks like a race condition in the test17:50
pittiinfinity: I already did17:50
pittiinfinity: the queues are achingly long again; I requeued all regressions already17:50
pittiinfinity: but with lcy01 down again it's going to take a fair while :/17:51
infinitypitti: Oh.  Yeah.  I retried too.  Not helpful, I guess.17:51
pittiinfinity: so we only have 8 parallel tests now, which sucks :( (on x86)17:51
infinitypitti: And two GCC uploads means the queues will explode shortly.17:51
infinityOh, Qt too.17:52
pittiinfinity: nope, I tamed gcc17:52
infinitypitti: Tamed how?17:52
pittiamd64 queue is 288, i386 queue 24317:52
pittiinfinity: gcc-5 only triggers some 5 key packages now, and stuff like gcc-4.7 doesn't trigger anything at all17:52
infinitypitti: libgcc1 rdeps don't trigger anymore?  Doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose of autopkgtest?17:53
pittiinfinity: the 5 key pakcages includes some libgcc rdepends17:53
pittiinfinity: but there's actually not that many in main17:54
infinitypitti: Sure, but how can we be sure it's good coverage?17:54
infinityI mean, libgcc isn't as complex as libc, but there's still a fair bit that can, in theory, go wrong.17:54
pittiso, we need to know that libgcc1 isn't totally broken, for that running 10 tests or so is sufficient17:54
pittiinfinity: well, give me some actual horsepower and we can switch it back on17:55
infinitypitti: Did you have more horsies before the scalingstack move?17:56
pittiinfinity: well, at least two regions, i. e. 2x817:56
infinitypitti: Were any of your build machines suitably new/beefy enough that we could ask for them to be turned into scalingstack compute nodes?17:56
pittiinfinity: I hope lcy01 comes back up soon; the last time (a month ago or so) it lasted for a full week, which sucked17:56
pittiinfinity: I got promised a bunch of beefy nodes a while ago, but didn't get them yet17:57
pittianyway, /me -> back to real life, this was just a quick drive-by check if anything completely exploded17:57
pittibut http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/status/alerts/ looks okay17:57
pittiand not too many regressions17:58
pittiso, let's let it clear up over night/saturday17:58
* pitti waves17:58
luistwhat Qt version is coming in 16.04?18:20
dobeywhatever version is ready by the time the freeze happens18:33
infinityluist: At least 5.4 :P18:44
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jcastroIf anyone has time to help with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam/+bug/1498655 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam/+bug/1498658 that would be swell!22:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1498655 in steam (Ubuntu) "Steam Controller support: need read-write access to Valve-owned input event device nodes." [Undecided,Confirmed]22:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1498658 in steam (Ubuntu) "Steam Controller support: need read-write access to /dev/uinput for controller emulation" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:35
jcastrobzr branches are attached22:35

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