| daniel_ | I seen the lastest OTA arrived tonight which i think was version 26 which OTA number was it and have you a link to the latest update changes? | 00:23 |
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| slangasek | daniel_: hi - this was an accidental early publication of an update; it's been withdrawn again from the servers, sorry about that | 00:24 |
| slangasek | daniel_: if you got it installed, you're one of the lucky few and you get to keep the new OTA-7 code early | 00:25 |
| sil2100 | daniel_: it will be officially available around Monday | 00:25 |
| daniel_ | also, on reboot i find that the bq aquarius doesnt reboot even if there is battery power! until i plug in into mains power supply then a reboot happens | 00:25 |
| slangasek | is that a new problem you're seeing after downloading this new update? | 00:26 |
| daniel_ | guess i am a lucky one, ref OTA 7 | 00:26 |
| pmcgowan | daniel_, hey, the OTA is still being qualified so it was unintentional that it showed up, did you download or just looking for whats to come? | 00:26 |
| daniel_ | had the latest OTA 7 update from what i see it downloaded and rebooted phone | 00:27 |
| daniel_ | i wasn't expecting it this time i waited normally i check to see when its arrival date is | 00:28 |
| daniel_ | this won't inhibit my phone will it? | 00:28 |
| slangasek | daniel_: it should not. you have the same code that we were planning to release to all users early next week | 00:29 |
| daniel_ | whats is there that has come or about to come? | 00:30 |
| sil2100 | daniel_: the update is safe, it passed QA testing already so all should be good - there was just still one test that our QA team wanted to do, which is why the image release date is next week | 00:30 |
| sil2100 | daniel_: sadly, the official release notes are not yet ready ;) | 00:30 |
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| daniel_ | how unusual for me! i feel blessed if thats the phrase i should coin! this was the version 26 release? how many others did it go out to? | 00:31 |
| sil2100 | daniel_: we hope that not too many ;) We always feel a bit bad if an image that did not have all of our QA processes finished going out to the users, so we hope only a few people got it | 00:33 |
| pmcgowan | daniel_, thats not any sort of known issue | 00:34 |
| sil2100 | Nothing bad if people got it, but still, we prefer if the image is released with phasing and in proper timelines | 00:34 |
| pmcgowan | daniel_, its the final version to be released early next week so its ok that you got it, but we were awaiting more testing results | 00:34 |
| pmcgowan | daniel_, is your reboot issue new? | 00:34 |
| daniel_ | i didn't file a bug report as it only happens occassionally! | 00:35 |
| daniel_ | i chatted with some one else on freenode they had the same issue and plugging into mains power corrected it! luckky for me i am not reliant on the phone on a business basis and this effect happened when i was on a beach and needed some time out anyway! phone rebooted and operational now though | 00:37 |
| daniel_ | will i need to make any further adjustments when the official OTA is released? | 00:38 |
| daniel_ | also had a battery deprecation from about 50% down to zero today at around 9pm uk time! seemed very odd! | 00:40 |
| sil2100 | daniel_: hey, no, no adjustments needed :) As for battery usage issues, we're looking into these all the time but it's hard to get all of them fixed | 00:41 |
| daniel_ | never had a power consumption like that with no other resources or processes running at that time | 00:41 |
| daniel_ | yes tricky one to fix unless your rebooting phone constantly i guess luckyily for me its only happend on two or three occasions | 00:42 |
| daniel_ | as to the sudden drop in battery eariler i wondered if i was near a magnet of some sort! is this possible say for a person to carry a device to zero out your battery level? | 00:44 |
| ahoneybun | jose: are you the one who rejected me | 00:55 |
| ahoneybun | lol | 00:58 |
| daniel_ | do you have a reply to the 50% to zero battery life i experienced earlier or should i not be concerned? | 01:00 |
| daniel_ | no apps or resources were being used at that period of time! | 01:00 |
| slangasek | daniel_: as pmcgowan said, it's not a known issue. there's probably not anyone around currently who could try to debug this with you, sorry - but it doesn't seem to be a common problem | 01:04 |
| sil2100 | daniel_: did you fill in a bug already? I don't think I can help here, since I did not experience it on my arale phone yet | 01:04 |
| slangasek | I'm not saying you shouldn't be concerned about it... having your phone's battery drain *is* concerning | 01:04 |
| daniel_ | just wondered thought it maybe a freak of nature or was paranoid that someone had a deivce locally that would drain it unnecessarily | 01:06 |
| pmcgowan | daniel_, which phone do you have? | 01:07 |
| daniel_ | thanks again for your information! i will forward to the official release ntoes when the become avaiable | 01:08 |
| pmcgowan | on arale there are reports of occasional fairly rapid battery drain, but BQ devices should be better than android | 01:08 |
| daniel_ | using the BQ aquarius E4.5 | 01:08 |
| pmcgowan | i.e. mx4 | 01:08 |
| pmcgowan | daniel_, no that should be very good on battery, you may want to file a report | 01:09 |
| daniel_ | never had this occur before | 01:09 |
| daniel_ | i'll file a report if i get a repeat of the occurance | 01:09 |
| pmcgowan | thanks | 01:10 |
| daniel_ | love this phone so far and when time comes will update to an newer phone running ubuntu! | 01:10 |
| pmcgowan | thank you | 01:11 |
| daniel_ | are you the devs involved with the release cycles? | 01:12 |
| pmcgowan | yes, many are on this channel all the time | 01:13 |
| daniel_ | nice to know that i can relay back to you and i'll try not to take up too much of your time!! | 01:13 |
| sil2100 | Yes, glad to hear you like it! | 01:13 |
| sil2100 | No worries, we're all here to help as much as we can | 01:13 |
| jose | ahoneybun: sorry? rejected you from what? | 01:15 |
| daniel_ | will have a play around from the user experience and perhaps join you again on a future gogole hang out ! | 01:15 |
| ahoneybun | oh not you then lol | 01:15 |
| ahoneybun | jose: I tried to get into the loco council ml | 01:15 |
| jose | I'm no longer part of the loco council, and that ml is private | 01:15 |
| jose | sorry :) | 01:16 |
| ahoneybun | jose: I just wanted to see if someone put my name forward lol | 01:18 |
| daniel_ | user experience point of view! yet to delve into contributing ubuntu will have to join an OS project of some kind! | 01:18 |
| ahoneybun | mailing list should not be private | 01:18 |
| jose | ahoneybun: (#ubuntu-locoteams) | 01:18 |
| daniel_ | slaters people | 01:19 |
| sil2100 | Goodnight o/ | 01:24 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:22 |
| lotuspsychje | i have an issue on my bq 4.5 updated to latest: everytime i try to install something it re-asks my ubuntu one account and loops back to it with 'account error' even tryed to make a new account but problem remains..is this a known bug? | 03:24 |
| lotuspsychje | cant install logviewer to see whats going on, no syslog or dmesg errors neither | 03:29 |
| EdwardMorbius | morning :) is OTA-6 hotfix phased like other updates? | 06:31 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:50 |
| DanChapman | good morning o/ | 07:24 |
| matv1 | hmm i just smashed my bq on the floor which is now unusable. Luckily i still had the nexus4 with some ancient UT release. I reflashed it with --wipe. all looks well but what i noticed is that last update date shows 1/1/70 | 08:08 |
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| matv1 | known bug? | 08:10 |
| matv1 | reflashed it to stable i should add | 08:10 |
| mcphail | What's the bq OTA this morning? A security fix for the "test" app or a full OTA? | 08:11 |
| * matv1 is wondering where that would be registered to.. Canonical system image?? | 08:13 | |
| mcphail | Actually, I've clicked on the "Updates" page and the OTA isn't there. Why did I get a notification??? | 08:15 |
| EdwardMorbius | for me the hotfix didnt arrive yet as well | 08:35 |
| teve | "So, due to a unfortunate mistake the OTA-7 update got prematurely" | 08:35 |
| teve | published for a few minutes last night - which is why people had the | 08:35 |
| teve | update notification on their phones. | 08:35 |
| EdwardMorbius | is hotfix phased like other ota updates? | 08:36 |
| mcphail | I've not had any updates for ages, so was quite pleased to see the update notification this morning | 08:40 |
| mcphail | Buth nothing was there :( | 08:40 |
| EdwardMorbius | mcphail I think last update was on 20.9 or something, otas come once every 6 weeks or so I believe. | 08:41 |
| mcphail | Yes, but was expecting a hotfix. Or is that just for meizu phones? | 08:42 |
| EdwardMorbius | hotfix should be for all phones but I am also waiting for it | 08:42 |
| mcphail | EdwardMorbius: you on bq? | 08:42 |
| EdwardMorbius | mcphail yes E4.5 from one of the flash sales | 08:42 |
| mcphail | EdwardMorbius: I wonder if bq are doing their usual lengthy QA on it | 08:43 |
| EdwardMorbius | mcphail I dont know which why I asked whether ota with hotfix is maybe phased because than would mean 24 hours to get it | 08:43 |
| EdwardMorbius | mcphail not that I downloaded the test application, but I still like my updates :D | 08:44 |
| mcphail | EdwardMorbius: I'm hoping they sneak a couple of bugfixes along with it :) | 08:44 |
| EdwardMorbius | mcphail I dont think so, if I read the mail on the mailing list correctly its the same as OTA-6 but with this hotfix, OTA-7 will come next week with fixes :) | 08:45 |
| * mcphail tries to be patient | 08:46 | |
| matv1 | mcphail EdwardMorbius As far as I saw in earlier OTA's BQ was always quite quick with their part | 08:47 |
| EdwardMorbius | mcphail still much better than android, new ota every 6 weeks plus bugs like this fixed fast, on android you wait for months for your manufacturer to release a point release update for Android, if you get it at all. | 08:47 |
| EdwardMorbius | mcphail mostly yes, though last ota came some days after meizu because of their testing. | 08:47 |
| mcphail | matv1: OTA6 took about 5 days longer from bq | 08:47 |
| EdwardMorbius | I understand that bq wants more testing, not fun getting your support spammed if something goes wrong with the image :)) | 08:49 |
| EdwardMorbius | by the way did anyone have their weather apps stop working properly? like opensweathermap api is down or something? michael zanettis app for example | 08:50 |
| mcphail | I have never actually used the weather app | 08:51 |
| EdwardMorbius | mcphail I used michael zanettis app but for some reason weather is not update for some days now, I installed another weather application and it seems to be working, weird. | 08:52 |
| EdwardMorbius | default weather app is a bit underwhelming | 08:52 |
| matv1 | EdwardMorbius I just checked. Same here. | 08:52 |
| EdwardMorbius | matv1 then its probably something on the openweather side | 08:53 |
| EdwardMorbius | though yaoswa app seems to be working | 08:53 |
| matv1 | must be. changing to the weatherchannel as data input helps | 08:53 |
| EdwardMorbius | matv1 unfortunately mz's app doesnt have another backend | 08:54 |
| matv1 | ah i see. I mostly just look out the window :) | 08:54 |
| matv1 | that backend always works | 08:55 |
| EdwardMorbius | matv1 me too but sometimes I like to check the temperature or a short forecast | 08:55 |
| EdwardMorbius | at least there is no shortage of weather apps in the store :D | 08:55 |
| matv1 | EdwardMorbius true :) | 08:56 |
| EdwardMorbius | weather apps on android are often just for eye candy because they look pretty on the home screen | 08:56 |
| matv1 | EdwardMorbius well pretty counts too. I am glad Canonical design pays attention to pretty :) | 08:58 |
| EdwardMorbius | matv1 yes design is pretty important to users, too bad they changed the overall theme, I liked the old theme during development better, the dark one that looked more ubuntu | 08:59 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Food Day! 😃 | 09:00 |
| EdwardMorbius | when some people saw apps scope on my phone they said it looks a bit like ios which I didnt take as a compliment XD | 09:01 |
| matv1 | EdwardMorbius I agree mostly. But i understand why its easier to do design with a consistent whitish background | 09:01 |
| matv1 | haha no that is downright insulting :D | 09:02 |
| EdwardMorbius | matv1 probably yes though theming is planned in the future I believe | 09:02 |
| EdwardMorbius | I am not sure if the messaging app in ota-6 was a bug or a feature, it has new lines, separators or something that dont look good. | 09:03 |
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| robin-hero | Hi! I got a notification about a new release this morning, but when I clicked on it the update manager showed there's no available update. What was this? | 09:39 |
| dholbach | robin-hero, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16258.html | 09:45 |
| robin-hero | dholbach: Thanks | 09:46 |
| robin-hero | but I only got a notification | 09:46 |
| dholbach | yeah, it was pulled again | 09:47 |
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| DrColossos | Hello, I'd love to get Ubuntu on my HTC Desire Z ... no luck so far | 09:49 |
| DrColossos | I followed the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/flipped_vision, both via phablet-flash, and manual flashing via 4ext recovery ... | 09:50 |
| robin-hero | dholbach: Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean on this. | 09:51 |
| DrColossos | in either case, it does not work - screen stays black, backlight comes on a few times, but gets all black again ... doing that over and over again | 09:51 |
| dholbach | robin-hero, the update was released prematurely, when discovered it got pulled from the channel again - it was available for 18 mins and will be put out there officially in due time | 09:51 |
| DrColossos | I was able to get cyanogenMod 10.1 on it, so the device sure works | 09:52 |
| robin-hero | dholbach: Oh thanks, I got it | 09:52 |
| DrColossos | anybody has a clue what I could do to get Ubuntu running on my HTC Desire Z? | 09:54 |
| === sil2100 changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/1ljube1 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | http://www.meizu.com/products/ubuntu.html | OTA-7 update prematurely published for a short timeframe, please ign | ||
| sil2100 | uh oh topic too long | 10:05 |
| === sil2100 changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/1ljube1 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | http://www.meizu.com/products/ubuntu.html | OTA-7 prematurely published for a short period, please ignore notifi | ||
| === sil2100 changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/1ljube1 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | http://www.meizu.com/products/ubuntu.html | OTA-7 premature short-lived publish, please ignore notification | ||
| sil2100 | Better, although a bit less verbose | 10:08 |
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| tvoss | mardy, around? | 10:54 |
| Saviq | charles, hey, is it a known issue that the BT indicator on flo/vivid would show BT as being off, when it actually works? | 11:13 |
| doko | pstolowski, tvoss sent me here. is mediascanner2 in -proposed still targeted for wily? | 11:15 |
| pstolowski | doko, not sure, jamesh may know? | 11:16 |
| neolynx | hi all | 11:17 |
| doko | oh man, I like being passed around :-/ | 11:17 |
| neolynx | I'm trying to boot with break=top on an bq aquaris E4.5 ubuntu phone, without success. adb shell does not find a device | 11:17 |
| pstolowski | doko, sorry, not my baby ;) | 11:17 |
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| neolynx | any ideas on this ? | 11:17 |
| akik | adb works on the ubuntu phone? | 11:18 |
| neolynx | akik: yes as soon as the android HAL container has initialized the hardware | 11:18 |
| neolynx | as fas as i can tell | 11:19 |
| akik | do you have android installed on the e4.5 ? | 11:19 |
| tvoss | doko, it's only hope 2 :) | 11:19 |
| neolynx | akik: please read my question, it's an ubuntu phone | 11:19 |
| tvoss | hop, even :) | 11:19 |
| akik | neolynx: i'm just wondering how android and ubuntu go together? | 11:19 |
| neolynx | akik: ubuntu phone piggy backs on android in an LXC for hardware abstraction | 11:20 |
| akik | neolynx: where can i read more about this? i'm interested to learn more | 11:20 |
| akik | do you know if meizu mx4 has the same kind of container? | 11:21 |
| doko | tvoss, pstolowski: this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu-media/+bug/1500859. is OTA7 before the wily release? | 11:23 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1500859 in qtubuntu-media (Ubuntu) "hard coded dependency on non-existing version of runtime library" [Critical,Fix committed] | 11:23 |
| neolynx | akik: https://developer.ubuntu.com/static/devportal_uploaded/136981fa-6287-49d3-9874-06f40b2e4eb7-cms_page_media/380/ubuntu_touch_architecture.png | 11:23 |
| ahoneybun | somebody should update some of the images on d.u.com | 11:23 |
| neolynx | does anyone know if kernel parameters break= are supposed to work on bq aquaris e4.5 ? | 11:24 |
| davidcalle | ogra_, ^ do you know? | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | davidcalle, which one ? :P | 11:25 |
| davidcalle | Pick one :D | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | haha | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | neolynx, how would you interact with it ? (neither a frameboffer console nor a serial one are enabled by default, even if you could manage to attach a keyboard) | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | neolynx, though technically the initrd is the same as on every other ubuntu ... i.e. break= would stop the boot and try to give you a shell | 11:27 |
| neolynx | according to https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ | 11:27 |
| neolynx | there should be the possibility to boot with break=top, which should initiate an adb server | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | that assumes there is adbd in the initrd | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | i think that was dropped for production devices | 11:28 |
| neolynx | well, there is if you look in it | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | yes, but it is a binary that can not run | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | you could replace it with a binary that can run (like a very old version from the archive) | 11:29 |
| neolynx | but as hw is not initialized, this is useless. therefore my question how this is supposed to work. is this a mediatek chip issue and works with other chipsets ? | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | it works with any chip | 11:29 |
| neolynx | ogra_: so the shipped adbd in the boot-img is broken ? | 11:30 |
| jgdx | mardy, hey, will you be able to comment on niklas's e-mail? That is, if you know what we are referring to when we talk about the notification I see/saw on the desktop | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | buut the script that starts adbd and the adbd binary itslef have not been adjusted in a long time, it wont work in the current state | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | it is broken for use inside an initrd, yes | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | (the binary got a check for the screen lock state added at some point, it will never allow any connections if there is no UI up) | 11:31 |
| neolynx | ogra_: what is the reason it is broken ? the hardware is initialized enough to support usn connections ? | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | the hardware is fine, the adbd binary isnt | 11:31 |
| neolynx | ogra_: ah, I see ! | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | it cant work in this context ... that the binary is in the initrd is actually an oversight | 11:32 |
| neolynx | ogra_: thanks for the info | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | (though it does no harm) | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | if you re-pack the initrd and replace the binary with one that can "just work" it should get you an adb shell in the initrd | 11:33 |
| neolynx | ogra_: do you know if the wireless interface would be initialized enough ? or does it need the android container to work ? | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | it does | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | only adb shell can work at this point | 11:33 |
| neolynx | ogra_: perfect. make sense | 11:34 |
| robin-hero | Hey, Can I somehow install the OTA-7 without channel change? I want to use the stable channel, just want to install this update earlier. | 11:34 |
| robin-hero | Anyone? | 11:48 |
| robin-hero | If I change the channel to rc, install the image and change back to the stable it will be update to the latest stable release or I can use the latest rc image? | 11:49 |
| davmor2 | robin-hero: no it isn't released yet | 11:49 |
| robin-hero | davmor2: Thanks, could you answer my second question too? :) | 11:51 |
| davmor2 | robin-hero: no you don't understand there is another fix landing in it, it doesn't exist yet there is no ota7, when it is built it will be landing possible Monday | 11:52 |
| davmor2 | possibly even | 11:52 |
| robin-hero | fix for what? | 11:53 |
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| davmor2 | robin-hero: patched tarball | 11:54 |
| robin-hero | davmor2: Thanks :) But I'd like to know what is the patch about? :) | 11:55 |
| davmor2 | robin-hero: no idea you'll have to wait and see :) | 11:56 |
| robin-hero | davmor2: And what's up with the users who were updated unforunately in the morning ? :) | 12:03 |
| davmor2 | robin-hero: they will get the new image when it lands too and ota to that | 12:04 |
| davmor2 | robin-hero: there is nothing wrong with that image it was just missing the final fix so was never meant to be release just built | 12:05 |
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| sturmflut2 | Isn't my krillin supposed to update to r26 because of that security fix? | 12:11 |
| ogra_ | not sure there are extra images spun ... the main issue was the store which wont let in such packages anymore, the click fix itself will come on monday anyway | 12:15 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, hey, do you have any idea what might cause this on amd64? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12798213/ | 12:20 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: gremlins | 12:20 |
| * Chipaca opens the link | 12:21 | |
| jgdx | hey, that's my current conclusion as well | 12:21 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: what go version? | 12:22 |
| Chipaca | anyway | 12:23 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, go version go1.5.1 linux/amd64 | 12:23 |
| Chipaca | that's a whole bunhc of errors | 12:23 |
| Chipaca | and the warnings at the top always distract me | 12:24 |
| jgdx | they're probably pertinent, but it's environmental because builds were passing a week ago | 12:24 |
| Chipaca | the warnings are because of gcc5 iirc | 12:24 |
| Chipaca | ignorable | 12:24 |
| Chipaca | but the errors, no idea | 12:25 |
| Chipaca | pedronis-land i think | 12:25 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, okay, and he's back next week I think | 12:26 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: isn't he at a spinrt this week? | 12:26 |
| Chipaca | sprint* | 12:26 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: is this in a silo, or in a real machine? | 12:27 |
| Chipaca | i mean | 12:27 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, right, sprint this week and hopefully back Monday | 12:27 |
| Chipaca | what're the chances of the problem being "incredibly overloaded machine making all the timing tests flake" | 12:27 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, silo and in my amd64 chroot | 12:27 |
| Chipaca | chroot should be fine | 12:27 |
| jgdx | 4-5 builds in a row now, so prob not flaky | 12:28 |
| jgdx | Should be fine, how? | 12:28 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: there's one that makes no sense | 12:28 |
| Chipaca | unless you're running the tests as root | 12:29 |
| Chipaca | TestDeviceListenError | 12:29 |
| Chipaca | tries to bind port 99 | 12:29 |
| Chipaca | that *will* fail unless you're root :) | 12:29 |
| Chipaca | and yet you're getting no error | 12:29 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: you're not running the tests as root are you? | 12:30 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, sorry, here are the real errors: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/221441633/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.ubuntu-push_0.68%2B15.10.20151016-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 12:30 |
| robin-hero | ogra_: If I flash the latest image from the rc channel, and then I change the channel to stable: what will happen? | 12:33 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: very different errors! | 12:34 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: nothing jumps to mind as to why it might be, i'd have to look at whatever changed | 12:34 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: what's changed? | 12:34 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, this [1] is the only thing AFAIK. Let me check more closely. [1]Â https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-push/poller-checks-send-recv/+merge/272927 | 12:35 |
| jgdx | that's the only one | 12:36 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: try building without it? | 12:36 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: it's entirely possible something changed elsewhere in the stack, and that push FTBFS as a consequence | 12:38 |
| robin-hero | davmor2: Could you answer my question? :) If I flash the latest image from the rc channel, and then I change the channel to stable: what will happen? It will show the newest image as OTA update from the stable channel? | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | robin-hero, it will do a full install of the image in the target channel | 12:39 |
| Chipaca | and bring forth the apocalypse | 12:40 |
| * Chipaca -> lunch | 12:40 | |
| robin-hero | the flash, but the change channel command too? | 12:40 |
| ogra_ | you might get probs with apps since the rc-proposed channel has a newer framework, so if you switch to stable you go backwards in time with the system, but the apps stay | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | if you switch to stable only after OTA the risk is low though | 12:41 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, might be you're right. This is the log ouput from head-1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12798371/ | 12:41 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: that's your problem right there: earth and moon have been swapped in their orbits! we are doomed! | 12:42 |
| * Chipaca -> really lunch now | 12:42 | |
| jgdx | okok :) | 12:42 |
| pmcgowan | robin-hero, stand by for the next annoucnement, you should stay with stable if thats what you want | 12:43 |
| pmcgowan | we are still working out details | 12:43 |
| robin-hero | ogra_: I'm talking about rc, not rc-proposed | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | rc ? | 12:43 |
| robin-hero | yes, http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc/ | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | if you switch to RC right now you most likely get the same image you are running | 12:44 |
| pmcgowan | robin-hero, which image do you want? | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | not sure the OTA candidate was copied over yet | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | RC only gets populated shortly before release for upgrade testing and the like | 12:44 |
| robin-hero | pmcgowan: the release which was released this morning ( I know it was only an accident) | 12:44 |
| pmcgowan | robin-hero, ok so give us a little time | 12:45 |
| robin-hero | why? :) is it release today? :) (not at Monday) | 12:46 |
| ogra_ | no, it is on monday | 12:46 |
| pmcgowan | ogra_, thats what is being discussed | 12:47 |
| pmcgowan | robin-hero, like I said, if you can wait just a bit | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | well, the official OTA rollout is definitely monday ... there might be ways to obtain it earlier ;) | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | for the eager ones :) | 12:48 |
| robin-hero | It sounds interesting :) | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | robin-hero, just watch the mailing list, if there is such a thing it will be announced there (or here) | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | no promises :) | 12:48 |
| robin-hero | thanks, I'm subscribed to the mailing list. :) | 12:49 |
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| tathhu | Ahh that was the update.. :P | 12:58 |
| jgdx | tedg, you had some "error opening shm" failures in UAL, right? | 13:25 |
| tedg | jgdx: We had, we removed them by making the LTTng stuff only activated by an environment variable. | 13:27 |
| jgdx | tedg, okay. Do you know what causes this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12798718/ | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | well, could it be that this var is always set ? | 13:28 |
| * ogra_ sees 100s of lines of ltt-ng spam in all app logs | 13:28 | |
| ogra_ | err | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | ltt-ust | 13:29 |
| tedg | Yeah, I believe it is the LTTng tracepoints in the QPA | 13:29 |
| tedg | I mean, the QPA plugin, not the interface itself. | 13:29 |
| tedg | jgdx: ^ | 13:30 |
| jgdx | tedg, in a go project? | 13:31 |
| tedg | jgdx: Is it using Qt? | 13:33 |
| jgdx | tedg, hm, yeah. | 13:34 |
| jgdx | but it's not just noise, it's failing to start | 13:34 |
| tedg | I doubt the LTTng meesages are causing it to fail to start. | 13:37 |
| tedg | If it is Go, I'd be guessing that a bunch of libraries are expecting GLibMainloops that don't exist. | 13:37 |
| tedg | Go really isn't a good language for middleware. | 13:38 |
| jgdx | tedg, okay, thanks | 13:50 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, upc doesn't even start on wily | 14:21 |
| tvoss | mardy, ping | 14:26 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: on wily desktop? | 14:33 |
| charles | Saviq, sounds a little like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-bluetooth/+bug/1499687 | 14:37 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1499687 in indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth turn on automatically " [Undecided,New] | 14:37 |
| charles | Saviq, but probably not the same | 14:37 |
| charles | Saviq, is it repeatable? | 14:37 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: it should be able to run, but you need a ton of stuff, plus point it at the right config | 14:38 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, okay | 14:39 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: how does it fail to start for you? | 14:39 |
| Chipaca | jgdx: for me it's complaining about not having a launcher. and also about running out of memory (?) | 14:39 |
| jgdx | Chipaca, I shut down my wily, let me get back to you. But okay, so nothing related to the failing test we saw.. | 14:41 |
| Saviq | charles, yeah, my flo does that on every bood | 14:45 |
| Saviq | boot, even | 14:46 |
| Saviq | charles, it looks like the indicator starts early, when the adapter isn't there yet | 14:46 |
| Saviq | charles, and bails out - the weird thing is that when you go to settings everything, except for the on/off switch is working, and BT in fact works | 14:46 |
| charles | wonderful if it's that easy. it ought to always be watching for the adapter to appear | 14:46 |
| Saviq | charles, some error msgs from the indicator log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12799432/ | 14:47 |
| charles | Saviq, could you file a new ticket for this? | 14:48 |
| Saviq | charles, yeah, wanna test with BlueZ 5 first to see if worth investigating even | 14:48 |
| charles | ack | 14:48 |
| dobey | jgdx: if you want to use push client under X, the hard part will probably be getting the u1 account created, because you have to do with with the qt online-accounts, which requires mir | 15:03 |
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| jgdx | dobey, isn't it possible to just choose another qpa plugin (x)? | 15:05 |
| dobey | jgdx: no. trusted sessions require mir | 15:07 |
| dobey | jgdx: you might be able to run system-settings under the mir-on-x thing that mhall119 was playing with | 15:08 |
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| robin-hero | Hey! Just flashed the r26 release from the stable channel, but not I have got an empty sound indicator with the following title: indicator-sound | 19:19 |
| robin-hero | Oh, a restart fixed it | 19:26 |
| kyrofa | Does anyone know where I can download the most recent boot.img for the mako? | 19:51 |
| tathhu | r26 = ota-7? | 21:58 |
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