[01:31] <denisotugo> hello
[05:11] <mapps> hi:)
[06:17] <knightwise> morning mapps
[08:24] <awilkins> My swanky metal-framed gaming mouse is failing me because amongst all that "premium" they only had room for a leaf switch for the middle button.
[08:25] <awilkins> Have dug out my bog standard ┬μ10 Microsoft Wheelmouse Optical
[08:25] <awilkins> Middle button is a microswitch
[08:26] <awilkins> Say what you like about their software, they do a good job browbeating third party manufacturers into making very decent peripherals
[08:54] <davmor2> diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc this is stuck in my head today
[08:55]  * awilkins has a parcel
[08:55] <awilkins> https://goo.gl/photos/MbsnLPQ8LdQi2Vyu7
[08:55] <popey> steam controller?
[08:56] <popey> ooh
[08:56] <popey> nice
[08:58] <zmoylan-1i> it's as big as the radiator!! :-)
[08:59] <directhex> game don't have my steam link yet :(
[08:59] <popey> :(
[08:59] <awilkins> Dammit though, I have work to do
[09:00] <awilkins> And a long weekend away with the GF
[09:00] <awilkins> I won't get to play with it properly for a week
[09:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Food Day! ΏθαΔ
[09:01] <zmoylan-1i> tis cold enough for porridge...
[09:04] <directhex> i had a costa sausage & red onion toastie. which is pretty much world food
[09:05] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:05] <Seeker`> o/
[09:05] <brobostigon> morninf Seeker`
[09:05] <Seeker`> morninf
[09:07] <brobostigon> :)
[09:17] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcJjMnHoIBI  seems apt
[09:23] <JamesTait> davmor2, that works for me. έα║
[10:18] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:20] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[10:21] <popey> pip pip
[10:21] <brobostigon> morning popey
[10:31] <bigcalm> I can has Steam toys I can not play with yet
[10:32] <bigcalm> And not sure on what to spend the ┬μ20 of steam credit
[10:34] <directhex> still waiting on a call from my store
[10:34] <directhex> did you get the link or just controller?
[10:39] <bigcalm> directhex: both
[10:39] <directhex> bah!
[10:39] <bigcalm> https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/654960478645522432
[10:39] <directhex> jelly
[10:40] <bigcalm> You pointed me at the 3 item purchase on game.co.uk. I thought you would have bought the same
[10:40] <directhex> i ordered the same in-store
[10:40] <directhex> for pickup
[10:41] <davmor2> popey: tally ho
[10:43] <bigcalm> directhex: ah
[10:50] <davmor2> Laney: hey dude I can hear you like you are in the same room and you keep it down a bit ;)
[10:50] <awilkins> bigcalm, Thought that was a life-size R2-D2 for a moment, next to a big amp
[10:50] <bigcalm> Heh
[10:50] <Laney> HELLO HASH UBUNTU DASH UK
[10:51] <davmor2> laney :)
[10:52] <directhex> έΨΝ     έΨεέΨε           έΨΝ        έΨΡ           έΨΝ
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[10:52]  * zmoylan-pi cups ear
[10:52] <zmoylan-pi> WHAT?
[10:53] <davmor2> directhex: Laney will confirm that looks well messed up in xchat
[10:53] <directhex> use a mono font then
[10:59] <bigcalm> I can confirm that looks silly in xchat with Ubuntu font (not mono)
[11:00] <directhex> who uses irc on a non-mono font? *silly*
[11:00] <zmoylan-pi> looks very 80s in irssi on my pi
[11:07] <davmor2> diddledan: I'm using ubuntu mono it looks well messed up
[11:20] <awilkins> Steam controller on Linux : so far, odd but interesting
[11:20] <awilkins> Registers as 5 input devices
[11:20] <awilkins> One mouse, one keyboard, one other HID, and two other inputs
[11:20] <zmoylan-pi> typing emails now a challenge :-)
[11:21] <awilkins> At first I thought the right touchpad was way oversensitive
[11:21] <awilkins> But it may have been because I had a meathook on it when I plugged the cable in
[11:22] <awilkins> Because it clicks when you move, it was sounding like a demented geiger counter that responded to my personal electric field
[11:22] <awilkins> Replugged it and it's no longer mental
[11:53] <bigcalm> 1st weirdness found
[11:53] <bigcalm> The Steam Link is displaying my whole desktop. That is 3 monitors worth
[11:53] <bigcalm> So the big picture mode screen is not actually taking up the full screen
[11:53] <davmor2> bigcalm: hahahaha
[11:54] <bigcalm> Maybe it'll fair better when I reboot into Windows after work
[11:55] <davmor2> bigcalm: do you only have it on one screen then?
[11:55] <bigcalm> davmor2: yes. Remember that of my 3 screens, the middle one is rotated
[11:55] <bigcalm> This gives a very weird desktop res
[11:56] <bigcalm> I was expecting only one screen to be streamed to the TV
[11:58] <davmor2> bigcalm: yeah it is possibly just streaming x you can ofcourse just turn the other screens off I guess
[11:58] <bigcalm> All unexpected
[11:58] <davmor2> bigcalm: as in, in the settings rather than physically
[11:58] <bigcalm> I'll try streaming from my laptop, that has just the 1 screen :)
[11:59] <arsenip>  beeping mouse?
[11:59] <arsenip> mt
[12:27] <diplo> Ansible have been bought by Redhat :)
[12:50] <bigcalm> Is that a good/bad thing?
[12:50] <diplo> Good thing I think bigcalm
[12:50] <bigcalm> Good, then
[12:50] <bigcalm> :)
[12:50] <diplo> More resources etc, can't see them dropping support for other os's
[12:50] <diplo> although who knows
[12:52] <bigcalm> Wonder if they will push in Windows host support
[12:52] <bigcalm> Doubt it though
[12:52] <daftykins> they'll soon be ansible to Redhat then... *whistle*
[13:03] <diplo> There has been talk of windows sipport for a long time
[13:04] <diplo> support*
[13:04] <diplo> and daftykins *groan*
[13:04] <daftykins> aww c'mon
[13:04] <popey> i liked it
[13:04] <daftykins> :D
[13:04] <popey> +1 friday humour point for daftykins
[13:04] <daftykins> yaaay \o/
[13:05] <diplo> hehe
[13:05] <diplo> Best AV for windows now ( cheap or free )
[13:06] <popey> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/10/windows-10-upgrade-installing-automatically-on-some-windows-7-8-systems/
[13:06] <popey> oof
[13:06] <diplo> MSE is supposedly rubbish now
[13:06] <daftykins> yeah i've been fighting that at clients recently
[13:06] <diplo> Yeah we were talking about that a couple of weeks ago
[13:06] <daftykins> i'd deleted and hidden the 'get windows 10' update, but the little blighter is sneaking its' way back on
[13:07] <zmoylan-pi> install win10 before win10 installs you
[13:10] <zmoylan-pi> i belive ms has apologised for this flamingo up, they didn't say if they were going to help people roll back to the os they want though
[13:11] <popey> stock answer is "restore your backup" as it should be
[13:11] <daftykins> the way i've seen it so far, a user would have to go to the windows update program and hit ok with 'windows 10' selected to install
[13:11] <daftykins> in fact, even on patch tuesday it sneakily keeps all the patches unchecked and just the windows 10 item ticked
[13:11] <zmoylan-pi> does restore your back up restore the recovery partition to it's pre win10 state?
[13:19] <awilkins> I think it stores your old winders in a c:\old_winders folder
[13:20] <daftykins> yep ^
[13:20] <daftykins> pretty much the whole original C: just gets moved in
[13:21] <daftykins> ooh-err this puts a dampener on my plans for Spain - http://arstechnica.co.uk/business/2015/10/bbc-begins-blocking-vpn-access-to-iplayer/
[13:22] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure someone has coded up an alternative workaround already :-)
[13:22] <awilkins> Your plans for Spain were to watch TV?
[13:23] <awilkins> SENORITAS
[13:23] <awilkins> WINE, FOOD AND SENORITAS
[13:23] <zmoylan-pi> while sitting by pool using tablet for geek cred :-)
[13:24] <daftykins> awilkins: clients holiday home, my thoughts were the same as to why he wants to watch TV and not just enjoy the place :P
[13:24] <daftykins> hmm looks like it might just be common VPN providers, it's still working fine for me VPN'ing through my VPS with digitalocean
[13:26] <zmoylan-pi> they are getting better at cracking down on vpns all the time, you'd hate to have to rustle up a workaround when you sit down to watch some eastenders...
[13:30] <awilkins> I can route things through my home router I supose
[13:31] <awilkins> 6Mbit/s is enough for basic streaming right?
[13:31] <awilkins> Even big pretty full SD DVB-T streams are only like 15Mbit/s
[13:33] <daftykins> our problem down here is a dynamic IP, i don't fancy relying on something through the home too
[13:33] <daftykins> so i'm gonna try it with this digitalocean VPS to start with
[13:34] <daftykins> worked just now from here at least, with the iplayer website
[13:34] <daftykins> my challenge is to come up with something easy to use that could show the live streams ideally
[13:43] <daftykins> ah excellent found a working addon with Kodi
[13:44] <daftykins> wow impressive quality too
[13:48] <diddledan> lol @ ubuntu podcast - "apparently the reason I was so bad at reading was because I couldn't see anything"
[13:48] <diddledan> ooh, and battlebus
[13:48] <diddledan> for oggcamp
[14:10] <bigcalm> Anybody not got Portal 2? I have a steam activation code for it going spare
[14:15] <popey> Sam doesn't :)
[14:15] <bigcalm> popey: did you pre-order the steam link?
[14:15] <popey> no
[14:15] <bigcalm> Then Sam can have my code
[14:15]  * popey hugs bigcalm 
[14:15] <popey> thanks
[14:16] <bigcalm> :D
[14:16] <popey> he loves portal
[14:16] <popey> would be fun to play 2 player
[14:16] <bigcalm> Yus
[14:16] <bigcalm> I'd like to try that again some time
[14:16] <popey> +1
[14:16] <daftykins> mmm 'tis fun that
[14:45] <awilkins> Free Portal2 from steam controller?
[14:45]  * awilkins is going to reboot and play Rocket League
[14:45] <awilkins> Since they gave it away with the controller I'm presuming that it plays really nicely on it
[14:46] <awilkins> Just as soon as my Windows VM stops installing upgrade
[14:46] <awilkins> Updates
[14:46] <awilkins> *sigh*
[14:52] <daftykins> you need to boot it more often so it can do its' thing ;)
[14:52] <popey> my windows 10 machine wakes up randomly
[14:52] <popey> i do wonder if it's doing that to check for updates
[14:53] <awilkins> Probs
[14:54] <awilkins> And report it's collected findings to MS
[14:54] <awilkins> The ones it gathers while it's not running
[14:54] <awilkins> Because it's that good at it
[14:54] <diddledan> popey, my dad's is doing that, too
[14:55] <diddledan> problem is they don't seem to turn off again afterwards
[14:55] <diddledan> it would be ok to start a desktop to check for updates and then turn off again, but a laptop not plugged-in AND not turning off again after is a pain
[14:56] <diddledan> (some folk have their systems to not idle to sleep because they often leave it doing big tasks)
[14:57] <popey> oh mine does
[14:58] <popey> not on/off though, I'm talking about waking from suspend, then it goes back to sleep
[15:03] <oly> any good alternatives to lastpass ?
[15:03] <bigcalm> keepass?
[15:03] <Myrtti> keepass.
[15:04] <daftykins> piece of paper pass.
[15:04] <oly> keypass is windows using dotnet
[15:04] <Myrtti> Oh?
[15:04] <oly> and keypassx seems to lack syncing
[15:04] <Myrtti> I wonder how I've used it on Android and Ubuntu for years, then
[15:05] <Myrtti> using rsync abs crontab to sync the database
[15:05] <Myrtti> and, even
[15:05] <Myrtti> keepass2, to be precise
[15:05] <oly> there is keypass1 on linux which is running in wine from what i can tell
[15:06] <oly> surprised seahorse does not have similar capabilities
[15:09] <diplo> Keepass2 is written in mono I believe ?
[15:10] <oly> yes it is and you have to install a load of dlls to install it
[15:10] <oly> felt like the type of app some one would have made a native open source version of
[15:12] <bigcalm> sudo apt-get install keepass2
[15:12] <bigcalm> Done and dusted
[15:12] <bigcalm> Works out of the box
[15:20] <oly> hum, not in my repos :/
[15:22] <daftykins> you have special non-ubuntu repos? :)
[15:23] <oly> I just have standard ubuntu 15.04 with the usual repos like universe enabled
[15:24] <daftykins> ah well you only have a few months left of that :)
[15:24] <diplo> That's how I installed it I'm sure oly
[15:24] <diplo> Running 15.04 fresh install
[15:27] <bigcalm> iain-Alienware-X51 ~ $ apt-cache search keepass
[15:27] <bigcalm> keepass2 - Password manager
[15:27] <bigcalm> #
[15:27] <bigcalm> -#
[15:27] <oly> my bad typo :/
[15:27] <bigcalm> I am on Ubuntu 14.04
[16:14] <diddledan> comeplete lunacy: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/other-toons/video/rescuewhale3.html
[16:18] <bigcalm> WTF?
[16:19] <bigcalm> Amusing
[16:20] <diddledan> :-p
[16:20] <diddledan> it's modern-day python mayhaps?
[16:20] <bigcalm> I haven't watched any of Weebl's stuff for some time
[16:20] <diddledan> I only watch when they send me an email
[16:21] <diddledan> I signed up to their yahoo mailing list way back in the dark ages and never stopped
[16:23] <diddledan> I like weebl's music under the bandname "savlonic"
[16:23] <diddledan> I bought their kickstarted album a while back
[16:26] <daftykins> :D
[17:47] <diddledan> hah, I think virgin just slashdotted themselves
[17:47] <diddledan> got an email pointing me to http://store.virginmedia.com/special-offers/faster-broadband.html <-- it's giving 503 temporarily unavailable
[17:56] <daftykins> diddledan: works here :)
[17:56] <daftykins> vivid
[17:56] <diddledan> yeah it's working now
[17:58] <diddledan> still saying they're not gonna upgrade me till at least april :-(
[18:07] <daftykins> diddledan: which speed jump is this one referring to?
[18:07] <diddledan> the one to 200
[18:07] <diddledan> ish
[18:09] <daftykins> ah yeah
[22:55] <daftykins> i just stitched together a panoramic snap of my pics from the weekend - https://www.dropbox.com/s/5oqutkua3569u8f/hill_pano.jpg?dl=0
[22:57] <diddledan> nice
[23:03] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/fa4aotoq5h9fl3p/hilltop_pano.jpg?dl=0
[23:03] <daftykins> there's another!
[23:08] <zmoylan-pi> i've taken a few panoramas but i always have the feeling they'll only ever look good when immersive vr is easily available and the images are insanely high megapixels...
[23:26] <diddledan> whaaa? apparently playboy are going to stop publishing nude pictures
[23:27] <directhex> diddledan: yeah. they already did on the website
[23:27] <diddledan> http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/13/9517993/playboy-stops-nudity
[23:28] <directhex> diddledan: the interesting thing that happened when they did that is not that the average age of visitors dropped from 47 to 30. it's that traffic quadrupled
[23:28] <directhex> people really honestly *will* only read playboy for the articles
[23:30] <diddledan> aye