[00:03] <zmoylan-pi> i have bought a copy of playboy, it had a new short story by one of my favourite authors in it.  an a.c.clarke story.
[00:17] <diddledan> yeah mean they print intellectual literature?
[00:18] <zmoylan-pi> some important news and literature was printed there.  but we only remember the nudity now
[00:21] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-writers-published-in-playboy.php
[01:00] <diddledan> I wonder how much faster I can make my raid array by actually thinking about things like stride and stripe width of the filesystem and array
[01:01] <diddledan> atm the ext4 system is set to 128/128 for stride/stripe whereas it should ideally be 128/384 (4 discs, raid5)
[01:02] <diddledan> and the raid5 stripe width is 512K
[01:02] <diddledan> that is ofc if my maths is correct
[01:03] <diddledan> the block size of ext4 is 4k so 4*128 = 512
[01:03] <diddledan> ref: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#Options_for_mke2fs
[01:04] <diddledan> maybe while I'm rebuilding it I should butter it?
[01:04] <diddledan> what's the current consensus over btrfs?
[01:42] <diddledan> has there been a delay in getting wily release candidate out the door?
[01:42] <diddledan> or are we not doing rc's?
[01:42] <diddledan> the release schedule says it should have landed on thursday
[01:43] <diddledan> odd. this page contradicts that tho: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseTaskSignup
[02:24] <zmoylan-pi> oct 16 for release candidate according to http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/05/ubuntu_15_10_beta_two_review/
[02:24] <zmoylan-pi> maybe theyre counting with west coast usa time zone...
[02:25] <zmoylan-pi> still only 1925 there...
[02:37]  * diddledan watches the clock
[02:58] <zmoylan-pi> you should get a soviet clock and you'd never be lonely again :-P
[02:59] <diddledan> in soviet russia, time clocks you (upside the head, then ties lead weights to your ankles, and throws you in the river)
[03:01] <zmoylan-pi> no no that's only if you touch their car... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/russian-driver-throws-pedestrian-into-canal-for-touching-car
[03:01] <diddledan> (that's actually a paraphrase from Terry Pratchett referring to Ankh Morpork: "In some parts of the city, curiosity didn't just kill the cat, it threw it in the river with lead weights tied to its feet.")
[03:04] <zmoylan-pi> but in ankh morpork that would just slow the cat down as it tried to run across the surface...
[03:32] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeiI8cd5rO4
[03:46] <zmoylan-pi> is it sad that i think the soviet pcs on this site look cooler than modern pcs... http://rbth.co.uk/multimedia/pictures/2014/04/07/before_the_internet_top_11_soviet_pcs_35711
[03:47] <diddledan> lol
[03:47] <diddledan> yeah, but you like ancient tech as evidenced by your dumbphone fetish
[03:48] <zmoylan-pi> you say that like it's a bad thing :-)
[03:48] <diddledan> lol
[03:48] <diddledan> how do you expect to get hacked when you run obsolete technology that modern haxx0rs haven't even heard of?!
[03:49] <zmoylan-pi> they'll just at the 5.25" floppy and their malware laden usb drive :-D
[03:49] <zmoylan-pi> *just look
[03:49] <diddledan> I've got a 5.25" floppy drive hooked up to this pc
[03:49] <zmoylan-pi> kinky....
[03:49] <diddledan> via usb
[03:49] <diddledan> :-p
[03:51] <zmoylan-pi> i remember around 2000 my boss issuing an edict to ditch every 5.25" drive in the office, we were done, no more 5.25".
[03:51] <zmoylan-pi> so we recycled the last 2-3 pcs that had them.
[03:52] <zmoylan-pi> the very next day i had to restore a backup from 5.25"...
[03:52] <zmoylan-pi> luckily i had hidden one under my desk.... :-)
[03:52] <diddledan> haha
[08:59] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:02] <directhex> paint it back is a paid picross game?
[10:00] <foobarry> anyone using cyanogen 12.1?
[10:00] <foobarry> have a couple of weird issues
[10:18] <foobarry> 1) receiving a call doesn't show the caller, just the dialler notification, and i have to double tap the notification to see who's calling. dailler is allowed to show notifications on my lock screen
[10:18] <foobarry> 2) random reboots while doing things while walking between wifi<->3g
[12:13] <SuperEngineer> Interesting.. tried the real nvdia [tested, not with updates] driver. Window moves / resizes were jerky, no real improvement in Steam games frame rate. Now back to using Nouveau.  Life is good again.
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> we need to get linus to send another message to nvidia? :-)
[12:16] <SuperEngineer> haha
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> or for halloween we could get 50 geeks dressed as linus to stand outside their hq
[12:23] <SuperEngineer> YIKES!
[12:24] <SuperEngineer> Thinking of video stuff, what would stop working if I removed flash plugin, would Firefox be able to cope?
[12:24] <zmoylan-pi> probably go faster... :-)
[12:25] <SuperEngineer> Would poo-tube stioll work
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> a lot of sites might get broken though...
[12:25] <SuperEngineer> darn!
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> i thought they hadn't converted all their videos to html5 yet
[12:26] <SuperEngineer> that, unfortunately, is what
[12:26] <SuperEngineer> ...I thought as well
[12:26]  * zmoylan-pi wonders how old that nugget is... ::goes to check::
[12:46] <Azelphur> Hey folks, just installed Xubuntu 15.10, added xorg edgers and installed nvidia-340. It doesn't seem to be working. I get an error in xorg.log which isn't so useful. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12817788/ any ideas?
[13:03] <popey> looks like the driver didn't get built
[13:04] <Azelphur> I just realised 340 isn't the latest, I believe 352 is? trying with that as we speak
[13:04] <diddledan> did you reboot?
[13:04] <Azelphur> yup
[13:05] <diddledan> is dkms missing perhaps?
[13:05] <Azelphur> aha, 352 fixed it, my bad
[13:06] <diddledan> yey
[13:06] <Azelphur> I did apt-cache search nvidia and picked the newer one, for some reason the nvidia drivers show up in two separate groups in the results
[13:08] <Azelphur> I'm getting some real bizarre behaviour, I just got my new monitors in, I thought perhaps a fresh install would solve it but nope
[13:09] <Azelphur> I occasionally can't type at all on the login screen (so I can't login) and I have one monitor flickering on and off sometimes
[13:10] <Azelphur> I can't even ctrl+alt+F1, although I can alt+sysreq+b
[13:51] <Azelphur> woa I think I got it working, I had a brain wave and realised that I'd swapped out everything except one thing, the DP cable.
[13:52] <Azelphur> now everything seems to be magically working
[13:54] <DJones> Does anybody know how the Win 8.1>Win10 upgrade works in conjunction with grub? Does it remove the grub bootloader,or does it still leave the grub bootloader in place
[13:54] <m0nkey_> yes it will
[13:55] <DJones> right, so grub reinstall is necessary
[13:58] <MooDoo> howdy all
[13:59]  * DJones hands MooDoo a cowboy hat, boots and sits him on a robo steer
[13:59] <MooDoo> yehaa!
[14:00] <DJones> :)
[14:02] <DJones> MooDoo: Looks like its time for a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTymtAbaG08
[14:04] <DJones> Damm.... When did Lee Marvin becoome a singing star
[14:05] <DJones> Oh yeah, its Wandering star
[14:05] <MooDoo> as soon as you said lee marvin, I knew what the song was :D
[14:05] <DJones> Heh
[14:06] <DJones> I don't if its my age, upbringing, or what, but this song always gets to me
[14:07] <DJones> Apart from that,I can't think of anything else he's know for singing
[14:08] <DJones> Even worse, I love the links from that youtube video
[14:35] <bashrc> is there any cdrom sized iso of ubuntu?
[14:55] <m0nkey_> get the server ISO, then install the desktop task
[15:14] <bashrc> miniubuntu ftw
[15:15] <bashrc> I'm installing on an old laptop, which can't boot from USB or DVD, but can boot from cdrom
[15:43] <m0nkey_> wtf? http://www.staples.ca/en/PlayStation-Plus-12-Month-Subscription-Card/product_1618694_2-CA_1_20001
[15:43] <m0nkey_> that doesn't make any sense
[16:44] <DJones> Where has the last 3 hours gone....youtube.....bluegrass music, Oh Yeah :)
[17:31] <MooDoo> evening all
[17:32] <brobostigon> evening MooDoo
[17:32] <MooDoo> :)
[17:35] <brobostigon> :)
[18:03] <mapp> HI;D
[18:10] <mapp> ug windy and rainy here
[19:00] <MooDoo> we've had to put the heating on tonight for an hour or so for the kids
[19:01] <DJones> MooDoo: Whats uo, where they not cooking well enough in the the oven
[19:02] <DJones> s/uo/up
[19:02] <DJones> Slow cooking is good, especially with gravy etc
[19:09] <MooDoo> lol
[21:52] <daftykins> hey all, been on my wanderings again, south-west Guernsey this time
[21:52] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5ibnpp8s9m20wb/IMG_20151017_174326.jpg?dl=0
[21:52] <daftykins> :)
[21:53] <daftykins> that's a beautiful view westward toward the Houmet Lighthouse (pronounced hoo-may)
[22:00] <penguin42> nice sunset
[22:02] <daftykins> 'twas!
[23:55] <Azelphur> http://imgur.com/e5WiRVo I think I have enough pixels now
[23:55] <penguin42> Azelphur: Not bad :-) How many of those are 4k ?
[23:55] <Azelphur> all of them
[23:55] <daftykins> naaaaaah
[23:56] <penguin42> Azelphur: impressive :-)
[23:56] <daftykins> is that a large radiator all the fans are on?
[23:56] <daftykins> for water coolings
[23:56] <Azelphur> daftykins: yup
[23:56] <daftykins> CPU only, or graphics card(s) too?
[23:57] <penguin42> Azelphur: What are the monitors?
[23:57] <Azelphur> daftykins: cpu only right now
[23:57] <Azelphur> penguin42: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-AMH-A409U-UHD-40-3840X2160-16-9-4K-LED-Monitor-60Hz-DP1-2-HDMI2-0-Remote-/321856997207
[23:57] <Azelphur> the setup still isn't complete, I have some more stuff to do over the next week which will make things a little better :)
[23:58] <penguin42> oh wow, didn't quite get the scale - those are 40?
[23:58] <daftykins> vewy gewd
[23:58] <penguin42> Azelphur: flightsim time then?
[23:59] <Azelphur> penguin42: yup
[23:59] <Azelphur> penguin42: dunno, could do, hehe
[23:59]  * penguin42 was thinking 2 or 3 like that and a thick glass top would make for a nice table