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lordievaderGood morning.08:01
santa_good morning everyone08:08
viphi ho08:10
santa_valorie: hi, now that the GCC 5 transition is settled and I finished pondering about the kubuntu-automation design, I'm starting to look forward to become a kubuntu member, I have just read https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership so the next thing I'm planing to do is writing a couple of wiki pages with my contributions, anything else that I should prepare?08:12
valoriedo that, and schedule a meeting08:13
valoriealso write to the devel list and ask for nice statements at the bottom of your wiki page08:14
valorieyou can do that in one email, actually08:14
valoriewe usually schedule meeting using doodle or something like it08:15
santa_where is the meeting suposed to happen: here, #ubuntu-meeting, somewhere else?08:17
valoriehere is fine08:18
valorieubuntu-meeting has some weirdness to the scheduling08:18
santa_ok, thank you08:19
santa_btw I have a mail with a patch awaiting approval :P08:19
valoriesanta_: I'll run listadmin immediately08:24
valorie:-)08:24
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valoriesanta_: approved08:35
* valorie heads to bed08:35
valorieniters all08:35
santa_valorie: thanks!08:36
santa_sitter: so ... there is in kubuntu-devel new version of the patch providing git-clone-all and the new way of bumping of the build depends08:38
santa_regarding git-clone-all now I'm cloning using the upstream names obtained from ftp, not the static list of source packages we have08:39
santa_however there is just a loose end: the kdelibs repository is named kde4libs (following source package name) and not kdelibs08:40
santa_if you could make a symlink in alioth from kde4libs.git to kdelibs.git we won't need to harcode an if or use json file with "exceptions" (which is the kind of "staticness" which we don't like)08:41
sitterlrwxrwxrwx 1 apachelogger-guest scm_pkg-kde 12 Okt 19 08:42 kdelibs.git -> kde4libs.git08:42
santa_let me test...08:43
santa_gonna take a while, l have to thread the clone processes like you suggested :P08:46
Riddell!testers09:52
ubottutesters is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information09:52
Riddell09:52
mparilloRiddell: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/347/builds ???09:55
Riddellyep09:55
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santa_$ git-clone-all 10:35
santa_Summary:10:35
santa_All packages were cloned succesfully10:35
santa_Riddell: I have been thinking this saturday how to improve the automation scripts so they could be used anywhere ~ kubuntu/neon/siduction I you have a few minutes I could explain you the overall design I have in mind10:39
santa_s/I you/if you/10:39
ahoneybunanyone else have issues with konsole not opening ?11:13
sick_rimmitJust downloading the 347 iso, then I will test11:24
ahoneybunmm I'm not on a daily build11:25
ahoneybunjust normal11:25
ahoneybunmorning sick_rimmit11:26
ahoneybunchecking for updates11:26
ahoneybunso I got konsole to start within /usr/bin11:27
yofelWFM, any error when opening it from some other terminal? Or something in .xsession-errors or dmesg?11:27
ahoneybunQCoreApplication::arguments: Please instantiate the QApplication object first11:27
yofelah, so opening it from kickoff doesn't work?11:28
ahoneybunyea11:28
ahoneybunQDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.11:28
ahoneybunI got it to open with the terminal plugin in dolphin11:28
Riddellsanta_: sure11:31
yofeldo you see more than one konsole in kickoff if you search for it? Is the Icon correct?11:31
soeei did updates today here atmy  work pc and have this message about kwalled5.rc not writable or something after boot11:34
santa_Riddell: one the thing I wanted to is spliting a bit this tasks: 1. changing the files in debian/* 2. building the source 3. uploading the source11:35
santa_I think 1 sould be done in a separate script specific to the distro, we can share the other 2 with different files in kubuntu-automation/conf/11:35
santa_so the workflow would be something like this:11:36
santa_supose we have a ~/kde-all/ directory containing all the git repos11:36
santa_and that we have a new applications version to work on11:37
santa_inside ~/kde-all/ we would do:11:37
santa_$ do-all -r applications new-release11:38
santa_$ do-all -r applications buildsource11:38
santa_$ do-all -r applications uploadsource11:38
santa_or everything toghether11:38
yofelplease add a $ do-all -r applications push-changes, that should not be part of new-release11:39
santa_$ do-all -r applications "new-release && buildsource && uploadsource"11:39
santa_yofel: that would be11:39
yofelrunning git push over all changes11:39
santa_$ do-all -r applications git push origin branch11:39
yofelok, perfect :)11:40
santa_I'm doing something similar in siduction and works pretty well11:40
Riddellsounds intertesting11:41
yofelright, now that's synchronously run as part of the branch updates, and it's a rather common source of bad changes when the script crashes11:41
santa_note that also being able to execute the scripts that changes the packaging i.e. "new-release" makes things easier to debug11:41
santa_oh and one thing more11:41
sgclarkthats sounds nice11:41
santa_I have an script in siduction to check if there are missing changes or upload files11:42
santa_to detect if something is missing11:42
santa_that would be:11:42
santa_do-all -r applications check-changes11:42
santa_or11:42
santa_do-all -r applications check-upload11:42
yofelwe currently detect that with exception handling, how would do-all handle command errors?11:43
santa_hmm, let me clarify something11:43
santa_new-release, buildsource, uploadsource and check-* would be separate scripts in $PATH11:44
santa_and they are all meant to be run in the git repo of a package11:45
santa_so they would do what they have to do inspecting the debian/* files11:45
yofelsounds good so far11:46
santa_it worked reasonaby well for me @ siduction11:47
yofelright, but currently our script detects that e.g. a patch cannot be applied which makes the package build fail, will move that to manual/ and at the end tell you why it moved it11:48
yofelso, if I run do-all over all 200-something applications, how would I see which ones couldn't be built?11:49
yofel(ok, missing .changes would be one way)11:49
santa_do-all -r applications check-changes11:49
yofelright, so back to my question, why is that seperate?11:49
yofelIn general, I think your design is great and solves a bunch of pain points in our current process. Just this part is nagging me a bit11:50
santa_check-changes? separate from what?11:51
yofelwell, you have the information that something went wrong when e.g. buildsource is being run, why do I need another script to check whether something went wrong?11:51
yofelmaybe I'm just misunderstanding the architecture...?11:52
santa_ah, because buildsource spits the output of dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -sa -S11:52
sgclarkmm yeah, I  would like to know at end of script if I need to fix stuff11:52
santa_(in its current state in siduction)11:53
sgclarkand at end will it spit out these packages failed?11:53
yofelwhich I believe returns !=0 when something fails11:53
sgclarkI tend to wander off when 200 packages are running11:53
santa_hmm, you gave me another idea XD11:54
yofelthat's why our script does subprocess.check_call or so to get the return code of whatever it runs11:54
santa_we could indeed print a summary of the failed commands in do-all11:55
sgclarkexcellent.11:55
santa_that would remove the need of a separate check-changes script11:55
soeemgraesslin: nice blog post12:04
yofelwhere's the bugtracker for plasma-sddm again?12:04
mgraesslinthanks12:04
pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-96-ge601286 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/UpdatesPage.qml12:06
pursuivantWhile loading, show a special loading page12:06
pursuivantInstead of lying saying there's no updates12:06
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pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-97-g70d80c4 * Aleix Pol: discover (2 files)12:06
pursuivantFix some issues in the PaginateModel12:06
pursuivantModelTest for king12:06
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/70d80c4770298ac8bb413f944bc9419dd3ed89f512:06
pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-98-g696cc2f * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/BrowsingPage.qml12:07
pursuivantAdd a scrollbar to the main page12:07
pursuivantSo that if the view is too small, we can scroll down12:07
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/696cc2f67e1ab5245c13492c51a36b27995ba54712:07
pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-99-gffc9657 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend/PKTransaction.cpp12:07
pursuivantAlso show packagekit errors on the console12:07
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/ffc9657a4e80c7d1fe5ecdd0473a9fdd1c944d6212:07
pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-100-gad4336b * Aleix Pol: discover/PaginateModel.cpp12:07
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pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-101-gd14bec8 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/DummyBackend/DummyBackend.cpp12:07
pursuivantDelay dummy backend initialization12:07
pursuivantThis way it's more similar to other backends12:07
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/d14bec86d4237241a36396d6cee9fc64704bc10312:07
mparilloInitial Wily RC Tests going well. I am still getting this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35180512:29
ubottuKDE bug 351805 in general "Configuration file "//.config/kwalletd5rc" not writable. Please contact your system administrator." [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo]12:29
soeemparillo: so this is what i had after updates12:46
lordievaderAh, I still have a Vivid laying around, time to upgrade I guess.12:50
ovidiu-florinanyone here?13:30
ovidiu-florinRiddell: do you know how can I add KDevelop to the kci?13:32
Riddellkci only does frameworks builds, does kdevelop have one?13:32
ovidiu-florinyes13:33
ovidiu-florinKdevelop is on frameworks for some time now13:33
ovidiu-florinhttps://www.kdevelop.org/frameworks/kdevelop-master-now-depends-kde-frameworks-513:34
ovidiu-florinsince august13:34
Riddellovidiu-florin: do the kubuntu_unstable branches compile with it?13:41
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alleefresh wily networkm.: why is by default there is no shared DHCP connection for any ethernet anymore?   Do we expect people to setup a DHCP ethernet config themself?13:42
santa_yofel, sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/ph9spnecw13:58
marco-parilloTesting the Wily Release Candidate install in a VM. I got a black screen. Alt F2 brought up krunner and I could type firefox and konsole and both work, but alt f1 does not bring up the Kicker. Is this an existing bug? First time I ran into it, and I install frequently into VMs.13:58
sgclarkI had that when I clicked enable 3d..13:59
sgclarkturned it off and desktop was happy again13:59
sgclarkguess it does not like that (nvidia here)14:00
sgclarksanta_: that works for me14:01
yofelokay, why the hell did my default browser change to rekonq?!?14:01
sgclarkoh my14:01
marco-parilloHmm, I see it is checked, but it is greyed-out (not modifiable) in VMware. 14:01
marco-parilloI will install open-vm-tools-desktop and ugrade my packages.14:06
shadeslayerRiddell: ping14:08
shadeslayerRiddell: doesn't https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/ktexteditor.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_workaround-katehighlightingindexer-arm.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable need to only kick in during PPA builds14:09
shadeslayerbecuase it feels like it'll kick in during regular archive builds too14:09
shadeslayer:O14:10
Riddellshadeslayer: ideally yes, do you have any way to achieve that?14:10
shadeslayerRiddell: I think so, the binary mangler doesn't run for PPA's14:11
shadeslayerso I'm sure there's a way14:11
shadeslayeras well as pkg-kde-tools doesn't do the po stuffing in PPA's14:11
shadeslayerso needs looking into how they achieve that14:11
shadeslayeroh14:11
shadeslayerhm14:11
yofelsanta_: yes, that's what I meant, thanks! We can then extend that as needed.14:12
shadeslayerRiddell: looking into it14:12
marco-parilloWell that was funny. A full upgrade, and installing open-vm-tools-desktop and I do not have the black screen. Alt F1 works and I have the drunken tartan.14:14
marco-parilloAnd yes, 3D graphics are checked, and not changable.14:15
shadeslayerRiddell: do we even build for armhf via kci now?14:16
shadeslayerone would presume everything goes through kci14:16
Riddellshadeslayer: ppa builds happen for frameworks before we upload14:18
shadeslayerRiddell: for armhf?14:18
Riddelloh, probably not no14:18
shadeslayerright, so we can drop the patch14:18
Riddellyes you should be able to just remove it14:18
shadeslayersince KCI doesn't build armhf on LP anymore14:18
shadeslayerokay14:18
shadeslayerRiddell: cheers, pushed14:22
marco-parilloI wonder if that counts as a pass or a fail. 14:22
pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-102-g229612f * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (2 files)14:27
pursuivantWorkaround stupid crash in Qt14:27
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/229612fba2cee65937a6daba6ddf0ed7184c364e14:27
pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-103-g31b4746 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (3 files)14:27
pursuivantGeneralize the padding in the PageHeader14:27
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pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/31b47462a386315bb898761542971daaef122fae14:27
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I don't know. I don't know how to test. 14:31
Riddellovidiu-florin: have a look at debian/control in the packaging see if it build-depends on kf5 bits14:31
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lordievaderWhile upgrading 15.04 to 15.10 I ran into a problem with nfs-common about python3.4 being deleted. Should I report this on launchpad.14:48
lordievader?14:50
Riddelllordievader: sure14:50
lordievaderHmm, running apt-get dist-upgrade again fixed it.... Should I still report it?14:51
sitterRiddell: we need to do some upgrader pitchy patchy tomorrow14:52
sitterin fact14:52
sitterSRU14:52
sitterbecause the fetcher actually is the broken bit and that is installed14:52
sitteruses self._warning were it should use _warning causing exception and the upgrader not to come up at all. although i feel like I fixed that at some point in the past Oo14:53
Riddellhum really? I'm sure I fixed it too no14:53
sitterand I figured out why I hade 403 thrown on the releaseannouncement... archive.ubuntu throws 403 if you try to access the html version via urllib14:53
sitterso we need to change the thing back to use the txt version instead14:54
sitterwhich is a bit of a visual loss but the entire upgrader looks like shit anyway14:54
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/1:15.04.14.1 I fixed bug 148884314:55
ubottubug 1488843 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Wily) "SRU: upgrader kde frontend fails to start" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148884314:55
sitterRiddell: twas still broken for me for some reason14:55
sitterah yes14:56
Riddellfooey, I'll test it when I can14:56
sitterRiddell: that's another bug supposedly14:56
sitterRiddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/1:15.10.4 the warning change here needs a SRU14:57
Riddellsitter: I worked out why everyone was complaining about kmix still being around, plasma-pa install the kconf update script for kf5 but kmix is kdelibs414:57
sitterand this url change http://paste.ubuntu.com/12861695/ to make the notes actually work14:58
sitterRiddell: yeah, I just got annoyed by that today. good stuff 14:58
Riddellself.new_dist.self.new_dist that makes no sense14:58
sitterah wait14:59
sitteryeah14:59
sitterRiddell: - the dup :P14:59
sitteranyway14:59
sitterI am off14:59
Riddellhave fun14:59
sitterbecause my brain is fried14:59
sittero/14:59
lordievaderAfter a reboot I can conclude the upgrade was successfull.15:00
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geniiThe Snappy folk are doing a broadcast in a few minutes if anyone is interested... http://ubuntuonair.com/15:53
genii( they are accepting questions about the broadcast in their channel #snappy and not in the usual #ubuntu-classroom/#ubuntu-classroom-chat channels)16:26
mhall119hi everyone, I was reading Martin's blog post http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/10/some-thoughts-on-the-quality-of-plasma-5/ and wondering if we are guilty of any of the problems he pointed out18:26
mhall119he mentioned that there's an extra repo (PPA maybe?) that has more up to date Plasma 5 packages, do we have instructions somewhere about where that is and how to use it?18:28
yofeltjaalton took care of the intel crash at least18:30
mhall119yofel: is that in the main archives for 15.10?18:32
mhall119or a PPA18:32
yofelyes, was part of the first mesa 11 upload18:32
mhall119ok18:33
mhall119how about for 15.04?18:33
yofelAFAIK it doesn't apply there, at least we got no reports for that18:36
yofelwhen it comes to the PPA, it is indeed recommended to use the kubuntu backports PPA. Vanilla vivid isn't that great18:37
mhall119yofel: are there instructions for enabling that, or is it just an add-apt-repository line?18:37
yofelwe usually tell people how to enable it everytime we post update news on kubuntu.org, and yes, it's just add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports18:38
mhall119thanks yofel 18:39
yofelbut yeah, to actually "solve" the problems martin points out we would need a blank MRE (or rather major release update exception) for around 400 packages18:40
mhall119I think having the PPA is solution enough, it effectively does the same thing, right?18:41
mamarleyKubuntu does have a problem with multi-display related crashes (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1492778).  As I just posted in the bug report, this would get a lot worse with Qt 5.5 for users with multiple DisplayPort monitors, causing a crash back to sddm whenever the user wakes the displays from sleep.18:42
yofelyes, except for the people that don't know what a PPA is. OTOH, I'm not convinced that the migrations are tested enough for that user base18:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1492778 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "kde crashes when powering on/off monitor" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:42
marco-parilloHere is an example of Kubuntu News (from the Kubuntu.Org site that flows to both planets) that shows backports PPA to Vivid: http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-532-and-frameworks-5120-backported-kubuntu-1504/18:50
marco-parilloThat said, I have been preferring Wily to Vivid ever since Alpha 1.18:51
mhall119thanks marco-parillo 18:51
mhall119marco-parillo: yeah, and after this week there's no reason to not recommend wily18:51
marco-parilloNo official reason. I have been recommending it unofficially since Beta-2 ;-)18:52
mhall119ahoneybun: ping (about DVDs)18:52
mamarleyIt actually looks like https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/138201/ will fix the resume-from-DPMS crashing that was caused by Qt 5.519:10
clivejoyofel: ping19:16
yofelhm?19:16
clivejoanyone working on calligra?19:16
yofelnot that I know of19:17
clivejoIve grabbed git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/kde-std/calligra.git, but when I do a dch -i its not updating the version number, do you know why?19:21
yofelbecause the last changelog is UNRELEASED19:23
yofeldch will only edit that one19:23
yofelbut -i should still have increased the version number (which is usually not what you want)19:24
yofelhm...19:24
yofelfor some reason, kubuntu_wily_archive is not kubuntu19:26
clivejoseems to be debian19:26
clivejoMaintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>19:28
clivejoor is the packaging still on bazaar?19:29
yofellooks like somebody tried to move it and didn't finish the job19:35
clivejocould have been me19:36
[Akeno]Hi everyone! In my attempt to re-install Kubuntu 14.04.3 on my ASUS R515M I encountered this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/127130419:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1271304 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "crash when restoring previously installed packages" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:51
[Akeno]Is there any way to disable/stop ubiquity from re-installing the packages?19:51
[Akeno]So that I can re-install them manually?19:51
[Akeno]Anyone?19:55
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[Akeno]Guess someone fell asleep on his keyboard lol20:13
valorieyowz20:18
valorie[Akeno]: I don't see any replies to that bug, which was reported by Riddell20:35
valorieI assume a work-around would have been posted if one was known20:36
ahoneybunmhall119: what about them?20:45
[Akeno]valorie: Yeah, with new install (different partition) I also encountered this message:20:51
[Akeno]Installation failed: The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/target/usr/share/doc/libautodie-perl'. This is often due to a faulty hard disk. It may help to check whether the hard disk is old and in need of replacement, or move the system to a cooler environment.20:51
mhall119ahoneybun: are you going to want 32bit or 64bit? IIRC, we only do 64bit for Ubuntu desktop anymore20:51
[Akeno]Laptop is around 1 year old by now20:52
mhall119whichever you pick, it should say in the CD or sleeve what it is20:52
ahoneybun64 would be best I think20:52
[Akeno]Gonna attempt to install on that partition again20:53
mhall119ahoneybun: ok, and if I remember correctly we were going to do 500 of the 4/4 DVD 5 from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HnooSpzP9p9cvql8GEQe7J-A1rNLq8qpRs_cH_gaZIk/edit#gid=0 is that correct?20:53
ahoneybunis it going to be 15.10?20:53
mhall119ahoneybun: yeah20:54
mhall119we would do more for 16.0420:54
ahoneybunyay 15.10!20:55
ahoneybunmhall119: I need the wily werewolf logo20:55
mhall119for the DVD?20:56
ahoneybunyea20:58
mhall119ok, I'll see who can get you that20:59
ahoneybunfor the inside I think would be cool20:59
mhall119yeah, I'd forgotten about that, asking the design team now21:01
ahoneybuncool21:02
mhall119ahoneybun: can you go ahead and file a community donations request for the amount in cell K4? We can work on getting the money approved and allocated while we finish getting the artwork together for the printer21:39
* ahoneybun finally bookmarks the page21:41
ahoneybunfilled out mhall11921:43
mhall119thanks21:45
pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-104-g49d6d83 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/CategoryDelegate.qml22:43
pursuivantAlign categories grid22:43
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pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-105-gdd4367b * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (3 files)23:01
pursuivantBetter adapt the carroussel animation to the vdg demands23:01
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