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blubaustinhello04:53
blubaustinI was wondering why my fn key don't work in lubuntu04:54
blubaustinkeys*04:54
Yolo123123hi15:24
Yolo123123can anyone confirm, that the lxde wiki, forum and blog are offline?15:24
redwolfyes, it seems down, Yolo12312315:24
Yolo123123thanks15:25
Yolo123123seems it is offline since 2 days then15:25
redwolfmaybe they're doing some server stuff15:25
Yolo123123cannot find any hint on that...15:27
redwolfthere's a group for Razor/LXQt active in Google Groups15:27
redwolfif you're interested that forum is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/razor-qt15:28
redwolfbut I'm afraid it's LXQt focused only15:29
Freddie_MercuryIs LXQt even a thing for Lubuntu?15:29
Freddie_MercuryI mean, afaik that's for 16.10+.15:29
Yolo123123I guess not15:29
redwolfit is our future Desktop15:29
Freddie_MercuryYeah, but future in this case means somewhat distant future. Heh.15:29
redwolfyeah, I can't be more specific, with dates and staff, you know15:30
Freddie_MercuryRight.15:30
redwolf*stuff15:30
Freddie_MercuryThat being said, current LXDE is OK, I just hope LXQt gets rid of some of the kinks.15:30
Freddie_MercuryLike widgets disappearing when the Iconify button is pressed.15:30
redwolfLXDE is not abandonware. you'll still get updates and fixes15:30
Freddie_MercuryMmh.15:31
redwolfpart of the team is working on it15:31
Freddie_MercuryYeah.15:32
redwolfand Freddie_Mercury, LXQt has its own kinks :D15:33
Freddie_MercuryI bet.15:33
Freddie_MercuryHeh.15:33
Yolo123123ok guys... thanks15:36
redwolf:)15:36
Yolo123123I go... bye15:36
redwolfo/15:36
Guest14Should i use 64 bit lubuntu if my cpu is 64 bit ? is 64 bit use more RAM ?17:34
redwolfno17:36
redwolfactually you should, yes. using an OS matching your architecture ensures you're optimising the use of your computer17:36
redwolfI mean no to the memory thing :)17:37
Guest14I have 1GB ram.17:37
redwolfalso, Guest14, if your computer is not too old there's no reason at all to use 32 bits17:37
Freddie_MercuryOff-topic, but I think Windows has confused a lot of people about this -- since Windows 7 32-bit requires 1 GB RAM, 64-bit requires 2 GB RAM.17:38
Freddie_MercuryThat's why people ask this question.17:38
redwolfreally? I didn't know that about Windows :D17:38
Guest14I am allready use the 64bit..17:38
redwolfthen don't worry, you're doing the right thing17:39
Freddie_MercuryYeah, you should be OK.17:39
Guest14I am not sure i can use all ram with lubuntu. it is a small distro.17:39
redwolfyou can17:39
redwolfLinux can paginate the whole memory zone17:40
redwolfagain unlike Windows, Linux is not limited by RAM size, or doesn't use pair blocks of RAM modules. it uses what you have. period.17:40
redwolfI installed Lubuntu in a Pentium II with 512MB RAM and a 20GB disk17:41
Freddie_MercuryHow well did it run?17:41
Freddie_MercuryThat's a rather ancient system.17:42
redwolfLibreOffice almost exploded :D17:42
Guest14I have both. 1 machine with 512MB ram and another 64bit with 1GB ram.17:42
redwolfbut Abiword was fluent. I noticed a lot problems with the browser17:42
aedigitalpentium II, omg good times17:42
aedigital:)17:42
redwolfI did for testing it, and it actually worked :)17:42
aedigitalnice17:43
redwolfyeah, Lubuntu is a little tough guy :)17:43
aedigitalyeah17:43
aedigitalhere is celeron 4 2,4 ghz and 512 mb ram17:44
redwolfCeleron chips are well supported17:44
aedigitalyeah17:45
Freddie_Mercuryredwolf, Firefox?17:45
Freddie_Mercurytbh with that kind of system I'd use Epipaphy.17:45
redwolfyes, it was slow, until it froze17:45
Freddie_MercuryMuch lighter, and unlike Midori, which is just insanely buggy.17:45
redwolfindeed, I'm even using Epiphany with my new laptop :D17:45
* Freddie_Mercury nods.17:45
redwolfI love that browser17:45
Freddie_MercuryYeah, I also tried Dillo.17:45
Freddie_MercuryBut that one looks like a Windows 3.1 browser. No joke.17:46
Freddie_MercuryIt's like going back 25 years or so.17:46
redwolfyes :D17:46
Guest14is firefox still 32 bit in lubuntu 64 bit ?17:46
redwolfmaybe it's not a bad idea including Xombrero by default17:46
redwolfno, Guest14, every app you use is compiled in 64bit17:46
Guest14good.17:46
Guest14i think with 1Gb ram i cud run a bigger linux distro.17:47
redwolfand every app you download from the software center is using the appropriate architecture17:47
Freddie_MercuryIt depends not much on the /distro/, Guest14, but your desktop environment.17:47
Freddie_MercuryUnity would struggle on that system; and that's still Ubuntu, just like Lubuntu.17:47
redwolftry with Xubuntu (a bit heavier) or any other flavour :)17:47
Freddie_MercurySame distro, different requirements.17:47
Freddie_MercuryIf you want even lighter than Lubuntu, you'd have to go not desktop environment, but plain window managers.17:48
Freddie_MercuryThese are harder to configure.17:48
redwolfa plain Openbox session, but it's hard to configure too17:49
Freddie_MercuryRight.17:49
Guest14I used xubuntu before and i like it.17:50
Freddie_MercuryXfce is pretty legit. A bit off-topic here, but my next computer will probably have a distro with Xfce and compiz.17:50
Freddie_Mercury</off-topic>17:50
redwolfdon't worry. and we have a #lubuntu-offtopic too for talking about cats, and xubuntu, and kittens.17:52
Freddie_MercuryHeh.17:52
Gatiwhi17:53
aedigitalhehe17:53
Gatiwhow to enable flash on chromium"?17:53
redwolfwhat version of Lubuntu do you have Gatiw ?17:53
Gatiwredwolf: 1217:54
redwolftry this first: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree17:54
Gatiwredwolf: nop17:55
redwolfGatiw, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras17:55
Freddie_Mercuryredwolf, what happens if I run that on 14.04 LTS? :>17:55
redwolfGatiw, try this first: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer17:55
redwolfsorry, Freddie_Mercury, if you run what?17:55
Freddie_Mercurysudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras17:56
redwolfin 14.04 flash is not there, but you'll get extra audio and video codecs17:56
Freddie_MercuryAwesome.17:56
redwolfSince that version we recommend Pepper17:57
Freddie_MercuryI see.17:57
redwolfanyway I don't recommend using Flash at all, and major websites use now HTML517:57
Gatiwredwolf: i have driver problems with kernels in lubuntu 14 and 1517:57
redwolfso you shouldn't need it17:57
redwolfGatiw, what kind of driver problems?17:58
Gatiwredwolf: i dont know why html5 doesnt work for me17:58
Gatiwredwolf: my pc crashes17:58
redwolfit's supposed that higher versions give more support17:58
redwolfhave you tried 15.04?17:58
Gatiwredwolf: like sound problems, wont boot, etc, yes it ried17:58
redwolfwell, that is odd17:58
Gatiwredwolf: i have old laptop17:58
Freddie_Mercuryo.017:58
redwolfthe drivers are usually the same plus a few addons in the kernel17:58
redwolfGatiw, what laptop?17:58
Gatiwredwolf: i lose sound in lubuntu 14 and 15. HP 6715s17:59
redwolfah I see17:59
redwolfstrange, anyways17:59
Freddie_MercuryGatiw http://askubuntu.com/questions/640889/hp-compaq-6715s-sound18:00
Freddie_MercuryOh, drats.18:00
Freddie_MercuryNo answer there >_>18:00
GatiwFreddie_Mercury: yep same problem18:00
Gatiwif i install later kernel laptop wont even boot; black screen18:01
redwolfI have an Acer Aspire with speakers sound too :D18:02
Freddie_MercuryGatiw: Try to press Shifty, F12 or whatever before it tries to boot the kernel to get to the GRUB menu.18:03
Freddie_MercuryGatiw: Then in the Advanced option, see if you can make it use a previous kernel.18:03
Freddie_MercuryShift*18:03
GatiwFreddie_Mercury: yes i know18:03
Freddie_MercuryOh, I thought you had that issue unresolved. Hm.18:04
Freddie_MercuryWeird.18:04
GatiwIs it safe to downgrade kernel in latest lubuntu?18:04
GatiwFreddie_Mercury: thats why i use lubuntu 1218:04
Freddie_Mercury...well, your only other option for that laptop is to boot into a black screen, so you tell me. =P18:04
Guest14guvcview in lubuntu is not working.18:04
dzhoif it's choosing a kernel that is still installed, it's not quite "downgrading"18:04
Freddie_MercuryDid you try running it from command like with -r 2 parameter?18:05
Freddie_Mercury"guvcview -r 2"18:05
Freddie_MercuryIn terminal.18:05
Freddie_Mercury^ Guest1418:05
dzhobut I've done that a couple of times to rescue a system that didn't quite upgrade completely18:05
Gatiwdzho: i mean installin kernel in lubuntu 15 that's on lubuntu 1218:05
Guest14No.. i run it from the menu.18:06
Freddie_MercuryGuest14, try it from terminal like that.18:06
Guest14And i have to open it in termeinal like that every time ?18:06
Guest14*terminal18:06
Freddie_MercuryI personally haven't found another fix either.18:06
Gatiwneed to restart\18:07
Freddie_MercuryWhat I do is, I use that, and if the terminal window is annoying, I move it to another desktop.18:07
Freddie_Mercury:D18:07
Guest14Is cheese working in lubuntu ?18:07
Freddie_MercuryLet me open it up real quick to test.18:08
Freddie_MercuryHold on.18:08
Freddie_MercuryAh, I remember this now.18:08
Freddie_MercuryWhat happens with Cheese is that the picture shows for a split second, and then it goes dark.18:08
Freddie_MercuryI had to install guvcview to get around that.18:08
Freddie_Mercuryiirc this was a kernel issue with some webcams.18:09
Freddie_MercuryI tried to get a newer version of CHeese but that broke other things, so I got rid of it.18:09
Guest14Can i use mobile broadband in lubuntu ? what software is needed for that ?18:12
Freddie_MercuryIn which way? Directly or tethering from a smartphone?18:13
Freddie_MercuryThe later I've tried, works perfectly.18:13
Guest14directly in the usb port.18:14
Freddie_MercuryRight; if you have an Android smartphone, go to Settings > More Settings> Tethering and Portable Hotspot18:15
Freddie_MercuryAnd there there should be a tickmark to check when you've connected the smartphone via USB to your computer.18:15
Guest14I meen a broadband modem and a simcard  in the usb port.18:15
Freddie_MercuryOhhh.18:16
Freddie_MercuryProbably you can?18:16
Freddie_MercuryGuest14, it seems one of the problems people experience is that the modem is detected as a storage device and not a modem. This details how to fix that, should it happen http://askubuntu.com/questions/143989/3g-usb-modem-not-working-in-12-0418:21
Freddie_MercuryGuest14, thing is, many mobile broadband modems have Windows and OSX drivers, which work for those other OS's once the drive is inserted.18:23
Freddie_MercuryBut of course, since Linux can't use those drivers, it only detects it as a USB flash drive.18:23
Freddie_MercurySo some extra work is required.18:23
nerd351Hi I'm new user of Lubuntu18:38
nerd351I find it awesom18:38
nerd351It's not diffrent From windows :)18:38
leszekoO18:39
aedigitalurggh18:39
aedigital:)18:39
leszeknerd351: not sure if this is a compliment or18:39
aedigitalhehehehe18:39
nerd351yeah it is18:40
Freddie_MercuryIf you mean the looks, maybe it isn't.18:40
nerd351but its true18:40
nerd351too18:40
Freddie_MercuryBut philosophically speaking...18:40
Freddie_MercuryWindows and Ubuntu, and GNU/Linux in general, are very differnet.18:40
Freddie_Mercurydifferent18:40
nerd351It's easy for a normal user to Be Linux user18:40
Freddie_MercuryYes, desktop environments have made that easier.18:41
Freddie_MercuryThat still doesn't mean people should shy away from the terminal.18:41
nerd351that's what i'm talking about18:41
Freddie_MercuryThat's where real power lies.18:41
Guest14I think he meens the menu system. It is look like windows envirement.18:41
Freddie_MercuryYes, I know.18:41
nerd351I hated ubuntu For the unity18:41
Freddie_MercuryHeh. :)18:41
nerd351also Seen mint What do u think Bro ?18:42
nerd351Which one is Great ?18:42
waldi_hi, i freshly installed lubuntu with wubi, now i try to apt-get udate but i get a bunch of 404's and Ign stuff, doesn't seem to work ... how can i fix this?21:12
waldi_i already tried sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* but doesn't help21:12
geniiwaldi_: what says result of cat /etc/issue21:16
Guest14Can it be correct when i have two computers with lubuntu and there is only new updates showing up for one of them ?23:09
Guest14Is the updates depended of the hardware ?23:10
Guest14I guess it is because i am using 32 bit and 64 bit.23:19
Unit193Or different mirrors.23:19
Guest14Maybe..23:22
Guest14Is there any programs who let me comunicate between 2 computer with lubuntu, i meen like local chat on the same network ?23:24

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