[04:52] <Mirv> robru: ok
[06:47] <abeato> Mirv, good morning, I need some help to upload http://people.canonical.com/~abeato/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/ in silo 16
[07:00] <Mirv> abeato: ok, looking!
[07:01] <abeato> Mirv, thanks, should be the same you did for silo 55 (jhodapp told me you handled that), this is the wily sync
[07:03] <Mirv> abeato: right, this adds the backported playlist support also to wily.
[07:04] <abeato> yep
[07:27] <Mirv> abeato: ok it has soon built for all archs but it'll take up to 20 mins still before it's fully published in the PPA for other packages to use
[07:27] <abeato> Mirv, thanks
[07:28] <abeato> Mirv, was not also needed a -qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles package?
[07:29] <Mirv> abeato: yes, I'll upload it soon too
[07:29] <abeato> Mirv, great
[07:48] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2, Mirv, ogra_: cancelled our morning meeting since I need to drive to the car mechanic in a moment
[07:48] <sil2100> And probably wouldn't be able to make it on time
[07:57] <jibel> sil2100, okay
[08:12] <Mirv> sil2100: aha, ok then
[10:08] <dholbach> cihelp: how can we get help-app landings moved to vivid (https://code.launchpad.net/~torsten.franz/help-app/help-app/+merge/274746)?
[10:10] <psivaa> dholbach: you basically want to get rid of the utopic runs, right?
[10:12] <dholbach> psivaa, yep - just use whatever is current :)
[10:13] <psivaa> dholbach: ok, some projects are built on wily as well as vivid. but for now, i'll just disable utopic.
[10:14] <dholbach> ok cool
[10:17] <dholbach> psivaa, what will I need to do once it's all done? just re-approve the branch?
[10:18] <psivaa> dholbach: no, just rebuid the failued jenkins job would be enough
[10:20] <dholbach> hum... I don't quite know which buttons to press - can you help me? :)
[10:23] <dholbach> thanks
[10:26] <psivaa> dholbach: that requires, re-approve :)
[10:26] <dholbach> yep, just saw it - thanks :)
[11:52] <Saviq> elopio, ping
[11:53] <Saviq> or anyone else who could help me with an autopilot issue ↑ :|
[12:15] <Saviq> jibel, hey, can you recommend someone to help debug an autopilot issue?
[12:47] <brendand> Saviq, ask ubuntu-qa in general, but i can help you right now
[12:48] <Saviq> brendand, gimme 5min please
[13:02] <Saviq> brendand, ok back
[13:03] <Saviq> brendand, we've silo 22 that somehow completely broke autopilot tests, they just bail out almost straight away
[13:04] <Saviq> brendand, the only suspect log line is AP trying to start the X11 input method instead of UInput
[13:05] <Saviq> but I'm not sure the difference is actually meaningful
[13:07] <Saviq> brendand, here's an example -vvv log from a working and broken test run http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12860476/
[13:13] <brendand> Saviq, that reads like a problem with unity8 to me
[13:13] <brendand> it is initctl start unity8 that's failing (although maybe only because of testability being on)..
[13:14] <Saviq> brendand, I'm just getting a clearer log, this one was a result of previous failures
[13:16] <Saviq> brendand, I think I'm starting to get what's going on http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12860568/
[13:16] <Saviq> that log is much more clear
[13:17] <Saviq> brendand, we changed the internal structure of unity8 to support external monitors, so this check is wrong now
[13:17] <Saviq> brendand, sorry for the noise, back to the drawing board
[13:18] <brendand> Saviq, no problem, i just served as your duck :)
[13:18] <Saviq> :)
[14:19] <Saviq> trainguards, hey, are silo branches available somewhere before they are published?
[14:22] <oSoMoN> ubuntu-qa: any chance silo 10 can be validated soon-ish?
[14:23] <sil2100> Saviq: they're pushed to a special remote place only after publish (and before m&c)
[14:23] <sil2100> Saviq: after building those are only available on jenkins
[14:24] <sil2100> (before publish happens)
[14:24] <Saviq> sil2100, FWIW, could sometimes use them for testing
[14:25] <sil2100> Yeah, I guess that would be a valid feature request, sometimes I also want to see how it looks from the inside
[14:28] <abeato> Laney, we need somebody with super-powers to publish silo 16, which contains the qtubuntu-media changes we talked about... mind landing it?
[14:28] <rvr> sil2100: It's in the queue
[14:28] <rvr> Oops
[14:28] <rvr> oSoMoN: It's in the queue
[14:29] <sil2100> rvr: good good good... what's in the queue? ;)
[14:29] <rvr> sil2100: Lots of silos :D
[14:29] <rvr> Sorry, I was answering to oSoMoN
[14:29] <rvr> oSoMoN: Usually the Ready to QA lane in trello is sorted by priority
[14:30] <davmor2> sil2100: you are in the queue
[14:31] <oSoMoN> rvr, thanks, I do monitor that board, but I was wondering whether there was some sort of ETA ? is it just you currently validating silos, or are there more people on it?
[14:31] <rvr> oSoMoN: I'm alone during the mornings, so maybe alesage will pick it
[14:31] <rvr> If not, probably tomorrow
[14:32] <oSoMoN> okay, thanks
[14:32] <davmor2> rvr: only for the next 2 weeks ;)
[14:32] <rvr> davmor2: Quitter!
[14:35] <Laney> abeato: I queued it... but what are the indicator-sound changes? :-/
[14:36]  * Laney is scared of changing things on the desktop in release week
[14:36] <abeato> Laney, support for mpris controls I think... xavigarcia knows more
[14:39] <jhodapp> Laney, yes just MPRIS controls for phone only
[14:40] <jhodapp> it should be a very isolated change
[14:44] <abeato> xavigarcia, Laney is worried about breaking something in desktop if indicator-sound lands
[14:45] <abeato> xavigarcia, are the changes dangerous?
[14:47] <xavigarcia> abeato: you mean in silos 55 and 16?
[14:47] <abeato> xavigarcia, 16 (wily)
[14:48] <xavigarcia> abeato: I don't think there's anything dangerous...
[14:48] <xavigarcia> abeato: I tested it on the desktop before testing it on the phone
[14:48] <xavigarcia> abeato: But to be 100% we could maybe move to QA
[14:50] <Mirv> sil2100: can you maybe review this https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.wily_add_qt5-image-formats-plugins/+merge/274882 ? (so that QA can process the silo)
[14:50] <Laney> xavigarcia: It's release on Thursday so I am worried about breaking anything with no time to fix it
[14:51] <Laney> is it crucial or could it wait for X?
[14:51] <xavigarcia> Laney: I see... I don't think it is crucial for the desktop, TBH
[14:51] <sil2100> Mirv: how much do the deps + the actual package weight?
[14:52] <xavigarcia> Laney: Although the indicator disables the actions for the next and previous buttons when it's told by MPRIS the UI does not show anything different
[14:53] <xavigarcia> Laney: so the difference it's not really notable. It's different on the phone, though
[15:00] <Laney> xavigarcia: I think we run out of time really, trying to produce final candidate images right now
[15:01] <Mirv> sil2100: as per the bug report, 960kB. the package itself is ~70kB
[15:01] <Mirv> s/960kB/869kB/
[15:01] <xavigarcia> Laney: ok, let's hold it then.... As I said, the user won't notice any difference on the desktop.
[15:02] <Mirv> so messaging app and telegram will need it for sticker support
[15:02] <sil2100> Mirv: hm, webp you say? I guess ~1MB more should be fineish...
[15:02] <Mirv> sil2100: webp, yes
[15:02] <sil2100> Mirv: hm, I think this would need a framework bump then
[15:03] <xavigarcia> Laney: until the UI changes the icons when the action are not defined the user won't see any difference
[15:03] <Mirv> sil2100: I'm not sure, the Qt part is just plugins and existing API is used
[15:04] <pmcgowan> sil2100, yeah no fw bump I think
[15:05] <rvr> bzoltan_: Hi
[15:05] <bzoltan_> rvr: hello
[15:05] <rvr> bzoltan_: I see lots of failures in this log http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/ap-2015_10_18-VIVID-SILO55-KRILLIN/MAIN-ap-2015_10_18-vivid-055
[15:05] <rvr> bzoltan_: Much more than in the previous run http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/ap-2015_10_02-VIVID-SILO31-KRILLIN/MAIN-ap-2015_10_03-vivid-031
[15:06] <bzoltan_> rvr: yes, but UITK has nothing to do with them
[15:06] <bzoltan_> rvr: as you see those are not introduced by the silo055
[15:07] <rvr> bzoltan_: There are some failures in messaging and sudoku, those are not new
[15:07] <rvr> bzoltan_: But there are many failures for ubuntuuitoolkit.tests
[15:07] <bzoltan_> rvr: if the logs say that "Same on archive" then it means that the failures are not new
[15:08] <rvr> bzoltan_: ahh, I see
[15:08] <bzoltan_> rvr: flakiness
[15:08] <bzoltan_> rvr:  not fun
[15:08] <rvr> bzoltan_: So, what's up with these?
[15:08] <rvr> Ah
[15:08] <rvr> Hmm
[15:08] <rvr> But if "same on archive" means they can be reproduced
[15:08] <bzoltan_> rvr: If rhe archive tests fail without  the silo then I do not care
[15:09] <bzoltan_> rvr: NO, the "same on archiv" means that the same test has failed on the stock image... so it is not a regression. Regression is when a test is OK on the stock image but fails with the silo
[15:09] <rvr> bzoltan_: But there is a chance that a regression was introduced in the archive
[15:10] <bzoltan_> rvr:  and the possible regressions are marked as real regressions if they fail twice with the silo
[15:10] <bzoltan_> rvr:  if the regression was introduced in the archive then it is a problem of whoever it introduced
[15:10] <bzoltan_> rvr: people should do the same testing as I do ..
[15:11] <rvr> bzoltan_: I'm talking about ubuntuuitoolkit.tests :-/
[15:11] <bzoltan_> rvr: But I can not do much about regressions introduced between two UITK landings
[15:11] <rvr> bzoltan_: There are 32 failures... it worrying
[15:11] <rvr> it is
[15:12] <bzoltan_> rvr: there is nothing new about those failures...
[15:12] <bzoltan_> rvr:  see the previous landing -> http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/ap-2015_10_08-VIVID-SILO23-KRILLIN/MAIN-ap-2015_10_09-vivid-023
[15:13] <rvr> bzoltan_: I see
[15:13] <rvr> Someone should take a look and fix them, if they are consistent failures
[15:13] <bzoltan_> rvr:  before that  the UITK AP tests were broken, but the logs are here http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/ap-2015_10_02-VIVID-SILO31-KRILLIN/uitk_test.logs - rev1658
[15:14] <bzoltan_> rvr: I do not mean that those 32 failures are not problem... but for sure they  are not new problems.
[15:15] <rvr> bzoltan_: Agreed on that
[15:15] <bzoltan_> rvr: those are failures since longtime... we are working on to make them pass, but they are broken tests and not broken functionality
[15:15] <bzoltan_> rvr: with the UITK test plan I look for regression
[15:15] <rvr> bzoltan_: By the way, I found something weird this morning on Today scope in rc-proposed
[15:16] <bzoltan_> rvr:  tell me
[15:16] <rvr> bzoltan_: The ">" sign becomes big when scrolling
[15:16] <bzoltan_> rvr:  wow
[15:16] <bzoltan_> rvr: is that intentional
[15:16] <rvr> bzoltan_: When it is near the title bar
[15:16] <rvr> I don't know
[15:17] <rvr> Hmm
[15:18] <rvr> Cannot see it now in latest rc-proposed
[15:18] <rvr> Well, then nevermind, I will open a bug if I can reproduce it
[15:18] <bzoltan_> rvr: OK
[15:19] <bzoltan_> rvr:  and about those 32 failures... i am pushing to fix them buy the next landing
[15:19] <rvr> bzoltan_: Ok, thanks
[15:19] <davmor2> bzoltan_: you have money to burn buying the next release
[15:21] <rvr> Proceeding to test silo 55
[15:36] <abeato> Laney, could not it land in the ppa overlay, for wily?
[15:37] <Laney> abeato: does that exist?
[15:37] <Laney> I don't know, that's not my decision :)
[15:38] <abeato> Laney, the stable phone overlay has a wily pocket: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay
[15:39] <abeato> Laney, I guess the packages there will be copied over when X starts
[15:50] <bzoltan_> davmor2: :D do you have something interesting there what you are waiting for?
[15:55] <rvr> dbarth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1507667
[15:57] <ogra_> lol
[15:57] <ogra_> thats fallout of disabling the file:// protocol
[15:58] <ogra_> rvr, can you check if the url actually starts with file:// ?
[15:58] <ogra_> oh, it says so in the error page, heh
[15:59] <ogra_> jdstrand, ^^^ can we add an exception to the browser apparmor profile for /custom/vendor/here/location-rpovider/ to make file:// work for the pages in there ?
[15:59] <ogra_> quite an oversight :)
[16:00] <rvr> Yup
[16:01] <jdstrand> ogra_: sure. ask oSoMoN to add it
[16:05] <rvr> bzoltan_: Silo 55 approved
[16:05] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2, ogra_: I'm semi-off today, so no meeting in case you guys are on it
[16:05] <ogra_> jdstrand, ah, i thought it is in apparmor-easyprof
[16:05] <bzoltan_> rvr: \o/
[16:05] <ogra_> sil2100, yeah
[16:05] <davmor2> sil2100: cancellor
[16:06] <jdstrand> ogra_: the webbrowser app ships a profile based on easyprof, but it is a deb so ships its own policy
[16:06] <ogra_> ah
[16:12] <dbarth> rvr: ack
[16:41] <jhodapp> sil2100, any issues with landing https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/qtubuntu-media/mediascanner-dependency-removal/+merge/274914 for wily right now?
[17:03] <popey> jibel: I realise you are all super busy, created https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/534 for clock app. contains a DST fix which we'd love to land in the store before the weekend (when DST happens in Europe)
[17:03]  * popey sends hugs and kisses and cake and beer
[17:04] <jibel> popey, okay
[17:40] <jhodapp> jibel, do you know if there's any issues if I land https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/qtubuntu-media/mediascanner-dependency-removal/+merge/274914 in wily right now?
[17:41] <jhodapp> jibel, the mediascanner team needs this to get mediascanner from being stuck in proposed
[17:47] <jibel> jhodapp, it is in universe, I don't think there is a problem to upload it to wily.
[17:47] <jhodapp> ok great thanks
[17:59] <robru> sil2100: slangasek: we doing the meeting today?
[18:11] <jhodapp> robru, can you publish silo 18 please?
[18:12] <robru> jhodapp: I can't if you can't
[18:12] <jhodapp> oh ok
[18:12] <robru> jhodapp: need a core dev nowadays
[18:12] <jhodapp> kenvandine, I know you can, care to publish silo 18 for me please?
[18:12] <jhodapp> robru, here I thought you had special access ;)
[18:12] <robru> jhodapp: I used to but not any longer :-(
[18:13] <jhodapp> bummer
[18:32] <jhodapp> cyphermox, ping
[18:32] <cyphermox> jhodapp: hello
[18:32] <jhodapp> cyphermox, hey man, you still have core dev status, right?
[18:32] <cyphermox> yes
[18:33] <jhodapp> cyphermox, perfect, would you mind publishing silo 18 for me please then
[18:33] <cyphermox> lemme look
[18:34] <cyphermox> this is marked as landing to wily, is it absolutely critical?
[18:34] <cyphermox> because I can publish but it doesn't mean it will be allowed through (not my call)
[18:35] <jhodapp> cyphermox, it is, it will unblock mediascanner which is stuck in proposed
[18:37] <robru> jhodapp: the thing is that wily is being released on thursday so people are hesitant to land stuff this close to the end if it's not some super-critical bugfix.
[18:38] <jhodapp> robru, yeah this is super critical
[18:38] <robru> jhodapp: is mediascanner used in the desktop in any way?
[18:38] <jhodapp> it is
[18:38] <robru> jhodapp: oh ok well if it's an important bugfix that affects the desktop then it should probably go in
[18:38] <robru> cyphermox: ^
[18:39] <jhodapp> robru, it's a low risk change anyway, just removes a dependency on a specific mediascanner version from qtubuntu-media
[18:43] <robru> diff looks legit I guess
[18:44] <robru> jhodapp: you should ask nicely in #ubuntu-release I guess, even if cyphermox does publish it's up to them whether it actually gets accepted or not
[18:44] <jhodapp> robru, anyone to ping specifically?
[18:45] <robru> jhodapp: I wouldn't ping anybody in there ;-) whoevers around tends to watch the IRC fairly closely.
[18:46] <jhodapp> ok
[18:51] <jhodapp> robru, if release doesn't accept it, where does that package live then?
[18:51] <jhodapp> robru, some overlay?
[18:59] <robru> jhodapp: yeah we can copy it to the stable overlay PPA where it'll be held until wily+1 opens and it'll get copied there
[18:59] <jhodapp> robru, ok great
[18:59] <jhodapp> cyphermox, let's at least do that now, publish so that it lands in the overlay PPA for wily
[19:00] <robru> cyphermox: you have to edit the dest PPA in the request in order to do that
[19:00] <robru> or I could just do it, heh
[19:01] <robru> jhodapp: cyphermox ok I copied it to overlay ppa
[19:02] <jhodapp> robru, ok so that's not automatic for wily, good to know
[19:02] <robru> jhodapp: it's automatic for dual silos, but this isn't a dual silo.
[19:03] <jhodapp> right
[19:04] <jhodapp> robru, hope to fix that soon too by syncing gstreamer versions across vivid and wily
[19:04] <robru> jhodapp: yeah the more we can do with dual silos the easier it is to manage everything
[19:04] <jhodapp> robru, exactly
[19:05] <jhodapp> robru, normally we don't have any code that relies on a specific version of gstreamer, but in this case that's not true
[19:06] <robru> jhodapp: oh you wanna backport wily's gstreamer into vivid?
[19:06] <jhodapp> robru, yep
[19:06] <robru> that sounds like a big job ;-)
[19:06] <jhodapp> held off on that for a bit because it was a dev version
[19:06] <jhodapp> but now it's a new 1.6.x stable series in wily
[19:06] <jhodapp> robru, shouldn't be too bad
[19:07] <robru> cool
[19:28] <Saviq> robru, thanks :)
[19:30] <robru> Saviq: you're welcome!
[20:32] <dobey> trainguards: can somoene please retry these builds? thanks. https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-026/+build/8133720 https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-026/+build/8133724
[20:44] <robru> dobey: one sec
[20:54] <dobey> robru: thanks
[20:54] <robru> dobey: you're welcome
[21:21] <alesage> robru, I've just passed 19 but noticed something fishy upon further examination--can I un-approve?
[21:22] <robru> alesage: yeah
[21:23] <alesage> robru ok, I'll edit the card/silo
[21:39] <cyphermox> robru: jhodapp: I got from Laney that the fix for mediascanner got uploaded by Laney earlier, so the ci train upload wasn't necessary
[21:40] <cyphermox> the change should get merged though
[21:40] <cyphermox> (I have not verified any of this yet)
[21:41] <robru> cyphermox: oh indeed, there's an upload from 4hrs ago and it's no longer in proposed
[21:41] <robru> cyphermox: ok I'll merge
[21:43] <Laney> I just removed the package dependency as the stuff wasn't built anyway, can land this more complete removal in X
[21:45] <robru> Laney: sure thing, the silo is now merged to trunk so it'll be included in whatever the next release is, when X opens
[21:45] <Laney> nod
[21:50] <jhodapp> cyphermox, Laney, robru cool thanks guys
[21:51] <robru> jhodapp: you're welcome