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| pitti | Good morning | 05:24 |
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| TheMuso | pitti: Hey there. | 05:41 |
| * TheMuso -> EOD. | 05:41 | |
| pitti | hey TheMuso, have a nice evening! | 05:42 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:51 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:46 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 07:49 |
| seb128 | re didrocks ;-) | 07:49 |
| willcooke | morning | 07:52 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:52 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:55 |
| willcooke | Laney, are you en route still? | 08:04 |
| Laney | HI! | 08:07 |
| Laney | willcooke: HERE! | 08:07 |
| willcooke | hi Laney | 08:07 |
| willcooke | Laney, let me know if you guys are missing anything | 08:07 |
| Laney | sleep | 08:07 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:08 |
| didrocks | morning Laney! | 08:09 |
| Laney | hey hey | 08:09 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:09 |
| Laney | good journey back? | 08:09 |
| didrocks | yeah, uneventful :) | 08:09 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks et seb128 -- bien rentrè ? | 08:10 |
| pitti | hey Laney, hello willcooke | 08:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: très bien, merci ! comment était ton week-end ? | 08:10 |
| pitti | happy werewolf week! | 08:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, oui ! et toi, bon w.e ? | 08:11 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how is London this week? | 08:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, how as your day out of the capital? ;-) | 08:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: beaucoup de voyage, on était à Dresden pour le 60ème anniversaire de ma tante | 08:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: donc un peu fatigué, mais je vais bien, merci ! | 08:12 |
| didrocks | :) | 08:12 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 08:15 |
| Laney | looks the same as before :P | 08:15 |
| Laney | someone has drawn some art on the wall next to turing | 08:15 |
| seb128 | sounds cool | 08:16 |
| Laney | outlines of some people or something | 08:16 |
| seb128 | oh, I miss the office today! | 08:16 |
| Laney | and it was great to be home for 23 hours :) | 08:16 |
| Laney | went climbing | 08:16 |
| seb128 | hehe | 08:16 |
| seb128 | I went to play some tennis yesterday, was good as well ;-y) | 08:17 |
| Laney | \o/ | 08:18 |
| davmor2 | seb128: willcooke: what was the result of the conversation regarding mediascanner 2 do we need a bug for it if popey didn't beat me to it? | 08:26 |
| willcooke | davmor2, seb128 - did we ever get to the bottom of why it was installed? Was it the sdk after all? | 08:27 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: yeap sdk installs it | 08:27 |
| willcooke | oki | 08:27 |
| seb128 | it seems to be, a bug wouldn't hurt but ideally it's something to ask the unity api team about | 08:27 |
| willcooke | what he said. A bug seems to be a reasonable place to track | 08:28 |
| davmor2 | seb128: right that was it thanks | 08:28 |
| seb128 | yw | 08:28 |
| willcooke | davmor2, if you can open a bug, I will chase with the API tedg | 08:28 |
| willcooke | erm team | 08:28 |
| willcooke | can't tab-complete words I'm thinking of in my head it seems | 08:28 |
| willcooke | ;) | 08:28 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: I know right you need to make that happen | 08:29 |
| willcooke | That would be so nice, just hold down tab all day and all my emails and spreadsheets write themselves | 08:29 |
| darkxst | seb128, no not yet, havent been able to reproduce gdm crash here | 08:38 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 08:38 |
| seb128 | unsure what you refer to, I probably pinged you days ago and lost context | 08:39 |
| darkxst | seb128, gdm crasher on e.u.c | 08:39 |
| seb128 | oh, right | 08:39 |
| seb128 | k | 08:39 |
| seb128 | I guess it's going to be in the GNOME Remix release then :-/ | 08:39 |
| pitti | for a few days now, locking the screen (through suspend or user switching) requires unlocking with password twice -- once through classic screensaver (new and undesired) and then through the lightdm-like unity saver | 08:39 |
| pitti | is that a known regression? | 08:39 |
| seb128 | no | 08:39 |
| pitti | tjaalton: ^ you had that too, right? | 08:39 |
| willcooke | humm, Trevinho had fixed that once ^^^^ | 08:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, does it do the same if you ctrl-alt-l? | 08:40 |
| darkxst | seb128, I don't think its fatal | 08:40 |
| pitti | seb128: no, that seems to work | 08:40 |
| seb128 | darkxst, no but it's the top report so it's spamming users with apport prompts, but it's your call to claim that a non issue | 08:41 |
| seb128 | willcooke, no, the other issue was a lightdm regression and it would lead to a double unlock but greeter and unity lock | 08:41 |
| seb128 | not gnome-screensaver | 08:41 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, user switching seems to work too, it's just on resume then | 08:41 |
| willcooke | seb128, ah, kk | 08:41 |
| darkxst | seb128, not claiming it a non-issue, but hard to debug if can't reproduce | 08:41 |
| pitti | meh, and now after user switching the unity panel froze | 08:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, backtrace? | 08:42 |
| pitti | seb128: of unity-panel-service, or compiz? | 08:42 |
| seb128 | u-p-s if it's only the panel | 08:43 |
| pitti | integrated menu still shows, but it doesn't react to clicks | 08:43 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:43 |
| seb128 | like you can click on indicators, menu popdown but you can't select items? | 08:43 |
| pitti | #1 0x00007fba84b7b1ec in g_main_context_iterate (priority=2147483647, n_fds=3, fds=0x1d1d8a0, timeout=<optimized out>, context=0x1b74770) at /build/glib2.0-ajuDY6/glib2.0-2.46.1/./glib/gmain.c:4135 | 08:43 |
| pitti | uninteresting | 08:44 |
| pitti | seb128: I mean that it reacts to changing window titles and showing the top-level menu items | 08:44 |
| tjaalton | pitti: no, mine is that after unlocking I get a dialog like on this http://askubuntu.com/questions/230270/immediately-after-login-my-12-04-lts-desktop-asks-for-my-password-for-authenti | 08:44 |
| pitti | but it's completely inert to clicking on indicators | 08:44 |
| seb128 | can you open it with the keyboard? | 08:44 |
| tjaalton | though my uid is same on passwd & net | 08:44 |
| pitti | tjaalton: ah, I sometimes have that too | 08:44 |
| pitti | seb128: how does that work? pressing alt doesn't do anything (but I don't know if it does normally) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, alt-f10 should | 08:45 |
| pitti | seb128: interesting, that works | 08:45 |
| seb128 | k, can you click with the mouse in apps? | 08:45 |
| seb128 | or is it just the panel? | 08:45 |
| pitti | and I can e. g. operate the sound indicator with the keyboard | 08:45 |
| seb128 | seems like a mouse issue more than unity one | 08:46 |
| pitti | seb128: just the panel, mouse works in general (terminal, browser, etc.) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | weird | 08:46 |
| seb128 | never saw that | 08:46 |
| seb128 | no idea what it can be | 08:46 |
| seb128 | also user switching here doesn't lead to a gnome-screensaver dialog for unlock | 08:46 |
| pitti | seb128: another user switchign back and forth and it works agin *shrug* | 08:46 |
| seb128 | did you activate a11y? | 08:47 |
| pitti | anyway, user switching indeed doesn't do the double lock thing | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: not knowingly | 08:47 |
| seb128 | it would always use gnome-screensaver if that was the issue | 08:47 |
| seb128 | so it's only on lid close suspend? | 08:47 |
| pitti | that's what I had over the weekend, yes | 08:47 |
| pitti | just tried suspend from the indicator, that also works | 08:48 |
| pitti | so apparently specific to the lid | 08:48 |
| seb128 | does it still do it with the lid? | 08:49 |
| seb128 | fun, I also have you 'can't click on unity elements' now :-/ | 08:50 |
| pitti | seb128: can't take it out of the dock right now, but I'll try in a bit | 08:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, you can change the settings to suspend on lid close on power if you want to test without undocking | 08:51 |
| seb128 | or does it inhibit that when using external monitors? | 08:51 |
| pitti | ah | 08:51 |
| seb128 | shrug, my mouse clicks is also buggy on unity elements, I wonder if that's due to the user switching | 08:52 |
| pitti | control center already says to go to suspend when closing the lid, so apparently the dock just generally inhibits that | 08:52 |
| seb128 | I think it's the external monitor | 08:52 |
| pitti | seb128: I didn't try the launcher, just the panel | 08:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, locking/unlocking fixex my clicking | 08:52 |
| larsu | good morning! | 08:53 |
| larsu | errm, "morning" | 08:53 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, andyrock, ^ I hope it's not a regression from the recent grab/lockscreen fixes | 08:53 |
| pitti | seb128: ... so in conclusion, larsu will fix that | 08:53 |
| seb128 | hey larsu, how are you? | 08:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, indeed! | 08:53 |
| * pitti ^5s seb128 and larsu | 08:53 | |
| * seb128 ^5 pitti and larsu | 08:53 | |
| * larsu is afraid of pitti | 08:53 | |
| seb128 | larsu, did you have a good flight back/w.e? feeling better? | 08:54 |
| larsu | seb128: slept a lot on the weekend and feel better now (but still not all the way healthy) | 08:54 |
| * pitti howls, it's werewolf week | 08:54 | |
| larsu | pitti: are you in London? | 08:54 |
| didrocks | hey larsu! | 08:54 |
| pitti | larsu: no, just went back from Dresden to Augsburg yesterday, I skipped the release sprint | 08:54 |
| larsu | bonjour didrocks! | 08:54 |
| larsu | pitti: ah ok. We put Laney there as you representative ;) | 08:55 |
| Laney | hey larsu! | 08:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you try if you do ctrl-alt-l if you can open the indicators in the lock by using the mouse? and if then it works again in the session after unlocking? | 08:59 |
| cyphermox | pitti! | 08:59 |
| Laney | apw is just saying that he has this bug | 08:59 |
| seb128 | oh, cyphermox is up ... in London? | 09:00 |
| Laney | the double unlock thing | 09:00 |
| cyphermox | seb128: yeah. | 09:00 |
| larsu | hi Laney! How's the office this week? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, double unlock or different unlock? | 09:00 |
| Laney | g-s then unity | 09:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, is that on lid close also? | 09:00 |
| Laney | yes | 09:00 |
| seb128 | k, I don't have lid close set to suspend | 09:00 |
| seb128 | so never tried that | 09:00 |
| Laney | so does he | 09:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, does it do it for you as well? | 09:00 |
| Laney | never seen that | 09:00 |
| larsu | seb128 is the only person in the world with that configuration | 09:00 |
| seb128 | when did he start? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | larsu, what? lid close not suspending? | 09:01 |
| larsu | ya :) | 09:01 |
| seb128 | I'm the online one wanting to walk from big table to meeting room with my laptop under my arm and my IRC connection to stay up? | 09:01 |
| seb128 | weird... :p | 09:01 |
| Laney | he says it was since he got a new drive that sometimes takes longer to resume | 09:01 |
| seb128 | so not a recent regression? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | did he report a bug? | 09:02 |
| Laney | maybe not | 09:02 |
| Laney | dunno | 09:02 |
| willcooke | I noticed an issue last week where if I had the the "restart or shutdown" U7 dialogue on the screen and then I closed the lid then when it woke up again I couldn't click on the close button. Might that be related? Trevinho was working on that | 09:04 |
| Laney | oh, seems to be here | 09:06 |
| seb128 | here? | 09:07 |
| Laney | apw that is | 09:07 |
| seb128 | oh, ok | 09:07 |
| seb128 | willcooke, that bug was fixed with friday's landing | 09:08 |
| seb128 | bug 1505234 | 09:08 |
| ubot5 | bug 1505234 in Unity "Shutdown dialog prevents unity to lock" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505234 | 09:08 |
| willcooke | seb128, right, I was wondering if that might be related | 09:13 |
| seb128 | I don't think it is, I looked at the diff for that change | 09:13 |
| willcooke | kk, thx | 09:13 |
| seb128 | it's basically "if (dialog_open) then close_dialog" | 09:13 |
| willcooke | heh | 09:16 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner/+bug/1507507 | 09:16 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1507507 in mediascanner "Mediascanner2.0 on desktop makes burning rw dvd impossible" [Undecided,New] | 09:16 |
| willcooke | thanks davmor2 | 09:17 |
| Laney | seb128: Trevinho: we gots a bug number now https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1507514 | 09:38 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1507514 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity and gnome-screen saver both triggered on resume" [Undecided,New] | 09:38 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 09:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, can you confirm if it's a recent regression or not? | 09:43 |
| seb128 | like something that got screwed in friday's landing | 09:43 |
| seb128 | or if that started before | 09:43 |
| Laney | seb128: before | 09:43 |
| seb128 | k, good | 09:43 |
| Laney | it was probably just exposed for apw when he got the new drive which triggers whatever condition | 09:43 |
| Laney | don't know if anything else changed for pitti to make it more likely now | 09:44 |
| seb128 | so it just coincidence that pitti started getting it as well | 09:44 |
| seb128 | need to go for some errands and lunch | 09:44 |
| seb128 | bbiab | 09:44 |
| apw | seb128, Laney, right, i assume this is a timing issue that "my disk is incredibly slow after resume for a bit" is exposing | 09:45 |
| Laney | anyway | 09:45 |
| Laney | does unity drop the screensaver name on suspend or something? | 09:45 |
| Trevinho | seb128, Laney: looking at the lockscreen thing. Unity changes shouldn't have caused that, but.... maybe I missed something | 10:20 |
| Laney | Trevinho: I don't think it's new | 10:24 |
| Laney | still seems annoying though | 10:25 |
| darkxst | you have potentially three apps sharing org.gnome.screensaver namespace | 10:29 |
| Trevinho | damn thunderbird now starts fullscreen here and I don't know how to unfullscreen it (F11 doesn't work there) nor workaround in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/196058 | 10:29 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 196058 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Thunderbird starts in a full-screen mode and cannot be restored" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:29 |
| Laney | darkxst: I would think that unity holds it the whole time though, so g-s can't get involved | 10:37 |
| Laney | we allow gnome-screensaver to be replaced but not the other way around (IIRC) | 10:37 |
| darkxst | Laney, not if you somehow release it on suspend or what not | 10:38 |
| Laney | that's what I asked :) | 10:39 |
| darkxst | Laney, I didnt quite get that far through scrollback before replying | 10:42 |
| * Laney nods | 10:43 | |
| darkxst | how did the sprint go? | 10:45 |
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| qengho | good morning. | 11:11 |
| seb128 | hey qengho, had a good trip back? | 11:51 |
| qengho | seb128: The transit was fine. The two hour delay before it was annoying. How about yours? | 11:54 |
| seb128 | mine was uneventful, which is good | 11:55 |
| qengho | I think coming back was my 50th transit over the Atlantic. | 11:58 |
| Laney | darkxst: not bad, mainly fixed bugs instead of having meetings which was nice ;-) | 11:58 |
| Laney | hey qengho | 11:58 |
| * Laney has just been tossed | 11:58 | |
| qengho | hiya, Laney! | 11:59 |
| attente | hi | 12:01 |
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| qengho | Good morrow, attente. | 12:02 |
| attente | hey qengho | 12:03 |
| * Sweet5hark had an extra night of being stranded at london heathrow. :/ | 12:06 | |
| seb128 | hey attente | 12:07 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, what happened there? | 12:07 |
| attente | hi seb128 | 12:07 |
| seb128 | had a good saturday/trip back? | 12:07 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: tube was temporarily closed due to "congestions" at paddington, which caused me delays and confusion, missing the Heathrow Express. When I arrived in the terminal it still said "priority boarding at B26". when I was at the desk, the clerk said (after typing for 45 seconds on his terminal): "its 14:06, the flight was closed at 14:05, go to the ticket desk and buy a rebooking ..." | 12:11 |
| seb128 | urg | 12:11 |
| Sweet5hark | ... so rebooked for the next day (no flights on same day) and stayed at a airport hotel for 55 pounds (better than going back to london for 35 pounds alone and then trying to find a hotel). | 12:13 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's quite cheap hotel price for London | 12:15 |
| didrocks | (and even more for an airport…) | 12:18 |
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| * Trevinho got the uncle badge. | 13:22 | |
| didrocks | congrats to the parents! I'm sure you played a key part into this :) | 13:23 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: A thought about bug #1465530: The installer does really not need to set LANGUAGE at all. It's sufficient that it sets LANG (with a valid value) and a bunch of LC_* variables if applicable. | 13:23 |
| ubot5 | bug 1465530 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Content in /etc/default/locale not correct for zh and pt locales" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465530 | 13:23 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, \o/ | 13:23 |
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| cyphermox | GunnarHj: done this way rather than LC_* on purpose. | 13:23 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: I don't understand "rather than LC_*". | 13:25 |
| Trevinho | :) | 13:25 |
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| cyphermox | well, you don't necessary need to set LC_*, and LANGUAGE is used for fallback languages. | 13:25 |
| cyphermox | I english bad, sorry :) | 13:25 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: Yes, LANGUAGE is used for fallback languages, and since the installer only sets one language, the use of that variable is redundant. | 13:26 |
| cyphermox | sure, but it's there. | 13:27 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: LC_*, OTOH, need to be set since the installer 'guesses' the regional formats based on the selected time zone. | 13:27 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: That is, if the user selects a place which does not match the selected language, LC_* need to be set. At least that's how it has worked for a few cycles now. | 13:30 |
| cyphermox | I haven't changed anything in how things are supposed to work normally, I only fixed a bug in a specific code path for pt and zh | 13:31 |
| cyphermox | something that was very broken | 13:31 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: Ok, understood. Yeah, it was very broken... | 13:32 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Is there a need to change anything due to bug #1507500, considering that the causing localechooser bug is about to be fixed? | 13:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 1507500 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-language-selector:locale.Error:on_activate:__init__:wrapper:check_input_methods:getCurrentInputMethod:setlocale" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507500 | 13:35 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, your call, it still feels like the code shouldn't assert like that just because the environment misses a variable | 13:36 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, it would be possible to make a failure not-fatal, I suppose. | 13:37 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, unsure how common those buggy configs can be though, so we can try to fix the localechooser bugs and see if other users still have problematic environments | 13:37 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: The line fails as soon as the locale is broken, i.e. when the locale command in a terminal causes error messages. That can happen for many reasons, of course. | 13:39 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, it would be nicer to catch that exception and display a proper error about it or fallback to C or whatever makes sense | 13:39 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Yeah, I think it would be nicer to catch it too. That way it will be possible (again) to use language-selector as a tool to fix a broken locale. | 13:40 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I'll fix it. | 13:41 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, thanks | 13:41 |
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| seb128 | Laney, worth uploading https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?filename=gsl.debdiff;msg=5;att=1;bug=802326 or is that SRU material now? | 14:27 |
| seb128 | it's not segfaulting for everyone, though it seems to lead to invalid dates as well | 14:27 |
| seb128 | it's not an important application so unsure | 14:27 |
| Laney | seb128: looking | 14:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 14:35 |
| Laney | seb128: are you wanting me to sponsor this or you? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | Laney, if you can do it that would be good, also I was unsure if we want this in wily in which case I should probably dput a 4~wily rather than waiting on debian upload to be published so we can sync | 14:45 |
| * Laney looks | 14:50 | |
| Sweet5hark | seb128, didrocks: will one of you be at http://www.opensourcesummit.paris/ by chance? or do you know if someone else will? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, I'm not | 15:05 |
| seb128 | and dunno | 15:05 |
| didrocks | Sweet5hark: neither will I, I can ask about ubuntu-fr community if you want | 15:06 |
| didrocks | (they have been in the past, when it was still "Paris Capital du Libre" | 15:06 |
| Sweet5hark | didrocks: well, hinting them at it just in case cant hurt ;) | 15:07 |
| didrocks | like "don't beat this guy" :) | 15:07 |
| didrocks | I'll! | 15:07 |
| * Sweet5hark just stumbled over this by accident ... | 15:08 | |
| didrocks | Sweet5hark: on the image slideshow, there are some people from the french ubuntu community | 15:09 |
| * didrocks even spotted more friends | 15:10 | |
| didrocks | (from other companies) | 15:10 |
| seb128 | Laney, k, I'm uploading, feel free to reject if it's not good | 15:24 |
| seb128 | oh, saw you commited to debian, thanks ;-) | 15:25 |
| seb128 | Laney, you didn't reply though on whether that's something that we should get it or delay to SRU/next cycle | 15:25 |
| Laney | seb128: I did it | 15:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, to Ubuntu as well? | 15:29 |
| seb128 | seems so | 15:29 |
| Laney | 19/10 16:20:56 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-system-log (wily-proposed/main) [3.9.90-3 => 3.9.90-4] (ubuntu-desktop) | 15:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 15:29 |
| Sweet5hark | hmmm, this is weird: https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-staging/+build/8135956 says "failed to build" and "took 10 hours, 42 minutes 3.3 seconds" but there is no log ?!? | 15:37 |
| * Sweet5hark retries the build. :/ | 15:41 | |
| didrocks | seb128: I've removed python3-requests 4 from the desktop team ppa, uploaded there by mistake instead of the ubuntu-make one, sorry | 15:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, oh ok, I didn't notice but thanks ;-) | 15:44 |
| * didrocks needs one of the latest feature for test stability | 15:44 | |
| seb128 | happyaron, bug #1506502 ... you wrote "The status is that fcitx-mozc is not seeded in the images", does it mean you can't type japanese in a live session? | 16:28 |
| ubot5 | bug 1506502 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "fcitx-mozc is not installed by default on Ubuntu 15.10" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1506502 | 16:28 |
| happyaron | seb128: no people can't | 16:31 |
| happyaron | seb128: neither Korean | 16:31 |
| seb128 | happyaron, k, was that the case before the switch to fcitx? or was it working with ibus? | 16:32 |
| happyaron | seb128: that's the case of switching to mozc from anthy | 16:32 |
| happyaron | not about framework | 16:32 |
| seb128 | k | 16:32 |
| seb128 | should fcitx-mozc be installed on new installs with internet working? | 16:32 |
| happyaron | seb128: yes it should | 16:32 |
| seb128 | that doesn't work | 16:33 |
| seb128 | I just did a test install and confirmed | 16:34 |
| happyaron | seb128: do we have universe enabled during installation? | 16:34 |
| seb128 | unsure | 16:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^? | 16:35 |
| seb128 | happyaron, if we install things by default they should probably be in main | 16:35 |
| seb128 | we have a seed for that which include langpacks, libreoffice dicts, etc | 16:35 |
| happyaron | seb128: then we need to prompt it (MIR approved) | 16:35 |
| GunnarHj | seb128, happyaron: I suspect that that problem is true for several packages which have been added to pkg_depends lately. | 16:36 |
| happyaron | though I believe gyp needs some more work to pass test cases | 16:37 |
| happyaron | GunnarHj: yep | 16:37 |
| happyaron | agree | 16:37 |
| happyaron | seb128: pkg_depends packages are not shown on the graph at people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive, nobody is prompting them... | 16:37 |
| GunnarHj | They need to be moved to main manually somehow, since no package depends on them. | 16:38 |
| seb128 | happyaron, hum, k | 16:38 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, see what I just said, I think there is a seed for those things | 16:38 |
| seb128 | but #ubuntu-release should know better | 16:39 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: No seed and no depend - that's why it needs to be done manually. | 16:39 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, yeah, what happyaron was asking about and what I'm unsure about is if ubiquity downloads things from universe | 16:40 |
| seb128 | need to go for half an hour | 16:40 |
| seb128 | bbiab | 16:40 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Right, and for Unity it doesn't. That's why they need to be in main. | 16:41 |
| Laney | you don't have universe in the live session | 16:41 |
| Laney | I don't think | 16:41 |
| Laney | it gets enabled after that | 16:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, that's not live session, that's things ubiquity downloads to install on the base system | 16:42 |
| seb128 | <infinity> seb128: It should be seeded in live (and should be moved to main once it is). | 16:42 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, Laney, happyaron, ^ I guess somebody needs to do that | 16:42 |
| seb128 | sorry have to go to pick up somebody, back later | 16:42 |
| Laney | yes but it can't download packages it doesn't know about | 16:42 |
| Laney | I presume that is the problem | 16:42 |
| seb128 | right, need to go to live seed and be promoted I guess then? | 16:43 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: So the solution ought to be to move the packages to main. They are already MIRed. | 16:43 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, what other packages are in the same case? | 16:43 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I'll check the latest pkg_depends changes. | 16:44 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: can you make a merge proposal for me to upload maybe? | 16:44 |
| Laney | or happyaron | 16:44 |
| Laney | I don't want to miss things | 16:44 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: What kind of MP would that be? They are already MIRed. | 16:44 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: But I can make a list of the latest additions to pkg_depends which I think are affected. | 16:45 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: to the seeds lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.wily live | 16:46 |
| happyaron | Laney: I guess they need to be prompted first? | 16:46 |
| Laney | not really, we'll get a message after uploading the ubuntu-meta | 16:47 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: But... Are they supposed to be seeded for all users? | 16:47 |
| Laney | if you do it into 'live' then they get installed on demand | 16:47 |
| Laney | (more accurately: removed on demand) | 16:48 |
| Laney | (from the installed system) | 16:48 |
| happyaron | GunnarHj: like all the fcitx stack, they are removed if pkg_dpends not requiring them | 16:48 |
| cyphermox | is there a different package we need for Korean or is that also handled by mozc? | 16:48 |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: Ok, I see. | 16:48 |
| happyaron | cyphermox: fcitx-hangul | 16:49 |
| happyaron | mozc is Japanese only | 16:49 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fcitx/+bug/1356222 | 16:50 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1356222 in libgooglepinyin (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fcitx and related packages" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 16:50 |
| * didrocks waves good evening and good night! | 16:51 | |
| GunnarHj | happyaron, Laney, cyphermox: So, I suppose we are talking about: | 16:55 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-mozc | 16:55 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-hangul | 16:55 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-unikey | 16:55 |
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| Laney | GunnarHj: 'kay | 17:07 |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: Did you see that list? ^ What about the Chinese fcitx engines? | 17:16 |
| happyaron | GunnarHj: if space is not a problem, then the one recommends by pkg_depends is welcomed | 17:18 |
| GunnarHj | happyaron: Do you mean that it's handled in UbuntuKylin, but not if you select Chinese when installing standard Ubuntu? | 17:19 |
| cyphermox | GunnarHj: ubuntukylin and ubuntu are built slightly differently when it comes to which packages are included. | 17:20 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: Ack. | 17:21 |
| cyphermox | so I'm not saying it necessarily all works on ubuntukylin, but some of the packages might be already included there. | 17:21 |
| Laney | shall I include those three for now, and we tweak next cycle if necessary? | 17:22 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: If we want to be consistent, and make Chinese installs work smoothly, these should be added to the list: | 17:25 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-sunpinyin | 17:25 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-pinyin | 17:25 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-table-wubi | 17:26 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-chewing | 17:26 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-pinyin | 17:26 |
| GunnarHj | - fcitx-table-cangjie | 17:26 |
| Laney | ... | 17:26 |
| Laney | this sounds like a lot | 17:26 |
| Laney | is there some overlap going on here? | 17:26 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: You'll have to ask happyaron about how important it would be. | 17:26 |
| Laney | can we sort it out in X please :) | 17:27 |
| happyaron | unfortunately no obvious overlap (fcitx-table-wubi needs fcitx-pinyin) | 17:27 |
| happyaron | space concerns are the reason I haven't proposed the MP to seed them all... | 17:28 |
| happyaron | big fat parts are sunpinyin and mozc. | 17:29 |
| Laney | I'm just doing the first three for now | 17:29 |
| Laney | seb128: can you promote these please? | 17:39 |
| Laney | fcitx-mozc fcitx-hangul fcitx-unikey | 17:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, on it | 17:40 |
| Laney | nice | 17:40 |
| seb128 | done | 17:41 |
| Laney | you rock | 17:41 |
| seb128 | thanks, you too ;-) | 17:41 |
| seb128 | still at the office? | 17:41 |
| Laney | yeah | 17:42 |
| Laney | putting in the hours for an early friday ;-) | 17:42 |
| Laney | happyaron: where is the fcitx-mozc MIR? ... | 17:50 |
| Laney | ah it comes from mozc itself | 17:50 |
| willcooke | oki, bugging out. g'night. thanks to everyone doing release work | 17:53 |
| Laney | seb128: I think you need to promote the source packages and mozc-server mozc-data too | 17:55 |
| Laney | unless it's just slow | 17:55 |
| seb128 | Laney, I wish change-override would do the right thing when trying to promote one binary | 17:56 |
| seb128 | oh, it's -B | 17:57 |
| seb128 | Laney, fixing... | 17:57 |
| Laney | component-mismatches should show us if there are any remainign problems | 17:58 |
| seb128 | Laney, done, should be good this time | 17:59 |
| Laney | excellent | 18:02 |
| Laney | didn't check build deps :P | 18:03 |
| qengho | Sweet5hark: http://www.flightdelays.co.uk/flight-delay-compensation | 18:05 |
| qengho | ^ Twitter ad. I'm a spammer now! O noes! | 18:05 |
| Laney | bah | 18:20 |
| Laney | looks like gyp needs fixing | 18:20 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozc/+bug/1486772 -> incomplete | 18:21 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1486772 in gyp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mozc" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 18:21 |
| Laney | but it is on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 18:21 |
| octoquad | evening, can anybody tell me if a translation fix after the language pack translation deadline will make it before the final release for ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu? | 19:47 |
| octoquad | ^ Re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1507736 | 19:48 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1507736 in Ubuntu GNOME "Ubiquity nb-no translation error" [Undecided,Triaged] | 19:48 |
| qengho | Zzz | 21:58 |
| TheMuso | Morning all, been on for a while, but forgot to announce my presence. :p | 22:25 |
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