[05:24] <pitti> Good morning
[05:41] <TheMuso> pitti: Hey there.
[05:41]  * TheMuso -> EOD.
[05:42] <pitti> hey TheMuso, have a nice evening!
[06:51] <didrocks> good morning
[07:46] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:49] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:49] <seb128> re didrocks ;-)
[07:52] <willcooke> morning
[07:52] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:55] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:04] <willcooke> Laney, are you en route still?
[08:07] <Laney> HI!
[08:07] <Laney> willcooke: HERE!
[08:07] <willcooke> hi Laney
[08:07] <willcooke> Laney, let me know if you guys are missing anything
[08:07] <Laney> sleep
[08:08] <willcooke> :)
[08:09] <didrocks> morning Laney!
[08:09] <Laney> hey hey
[08:09] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:09] <Laney> good journey back?
[08:09] <didrocks> yeah, uneventful :)
[08:10] <pitti> bonjour didrocks et seb128 -- bien rentrè ?
[08:10] <pitti> hey Laney, hello willcooke
[08:10] <didrocks> pitti: très bien, merci ! comment était ton week-end ?
[08:11] <pitti> happy werewolf week!
[08:11] <seb128> pitti, salut, oui ! et toi, bon w.e ?
[08:11] <seb128> hey Laney, how is London this week?
[08:11] <seb128> Laney, how as your day out of the capital? ;-)
[08:11] <pitti> didrocks: beaucoup de voyage, on était à Dresden pour le 60ème anniversaire de ma tante
[08:12] <pitti> didrocks: donc un peu fatigué, mais je vais bien, merci !
[08:12] <didrocks> :)
[08:15] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:15] <Laney> looks the same as before :P
[08:15] <Laney> someone has drawn some art on the wall next to turing
[08:16] <seb128> sounds cool
[08:16] <Laney> outlines of some people or something
[08:16] <seb128> oh, I miss the office today!
[08:16] <Laney> and it was great to be home for 23 hours :)
[08:16] <Laney> went climbing
[08:16] <seb128> hehe
[08:17] <seb128> I went to play some tennis yesterday, was good as well ;-y)
[08:18] <Laney> \o/
[08:26] <davmor2> seb128: willcooke: what was the result of the conversation regarding mediascanner 2  do we need a bug for it if popey didn't beat me to it?
[08:27] <willcooke> davmor2, seb128 - did we ever get to the bottom of why it was installed?  Was it the sdk after all?
[08:27] <davmor2> willcooke: yeap sdk installs it
[08:27] <willcooke> oki
[08:27] <seb128> it seems to be, a bug wouldn't hurt but ideally it's something to ask the unity api team about
[08:28] <willcooke> what he said.  A bug seems to be a reasonable place to track
[08:28] <davmor2> seb128: right that was it thanks
[08:28] <seb128> yw
[08:28] <willcooke> davmor2, if you can open a bug, I will chase with the API tedg
[08:28] <willcooke> erm team
[08:28] <willcooke> can't tab-complete words I'm thinking of in my head it seems
[08:28] <willcooke> ;)
[08:29] <davmor2> willcooke: I know right you need to make that happen
[08:29] <willcooke> That would be so nice, just hold down tab all day and all my emails and spreadsheets write themselves
[08:38] <darkxst> seb128, no not yet, havent been able to reproduce gdm crash here
[08:38] <seb128> hey darkxst
[08:39] <seb128> unsure what you refer to, I probably pinged you days ago and lost context
[08:39] <darkxst> seb128, gdm crasher on e.u.c
[08:39] <seb128> oh, right
[08:39] <seb128> k
[08:39] <seb128> I guess it's going to be in the GNOME Remix release then :-/
[08:39] <pitti> for a few days now, locking the screen (through suspend or user switching) requires unlocking with password twice -- once through classic screensaver (new and undesired) and then through the lightdm-like unity saver
[08:39] <pitti> is that a known regression?
[08:39] <seb128> no
[08:39] <pitti> tjaalton: ^ you had that too, right?
[08:40] <willcooke> humm, Trevinho had fixed that once ^^^^
[08:40] <seb128> pitti, does it do the same if you ctrl-alt-l?
[08:40] <darkxst> seb128, I don't think its fatal
[08:40] <pitti> seb128: no, that seems to work
[08:41] <seb128> darkxst, no but it's the top report so it's spamming users with apport prompts, but it's your call to claim that a non issue
[08:41] <seb128> willcooke, no, the other issue was a lightdm regression and it would lead to a double unlock but greeter and unity lock
[08:41] <seb128> not gnome-screensaver
[08:41] <pitti> seb128: oh, user switching seems to work too,  it's just on resume then
[08:41] <willcooke> seb128, ah, kk
[08:41] <darkxst> seb128, not claiming it a non-issue, but hard to debug if can't reproduce
[08:41] <pitti> meh, and now after user switching the unity panel froze
[08:42] <seb128> pitti, backtrace?
[08:42] <pitti> seb128: of unity-panel-service, or compiz?
[08:43] <seb128> u-p-s if it's only the panel
[08:43] <pitti> integrated menu still shows, but it doesn't react to clicks
[08:43] <seb128> hum
[08:43] <seb128> like you can click on indicators, menu popdown but you can't select items?
[08:43] <pitti> #1  0x00007fba84b7b1ec in g_main_context_iterate (priority=2147483647, n_fds=3, fds=0x1d1d8a0, timeout=<optimized out>, context=0x1b74770) at /build/glib2.0-ajuDY6/glib2.0-2.46.1/./glib/gmain.c:4135
[08:44] <pitti> uninteresting
[08:44] <pitti> seb128: I mean that it reacts to changing window titles and showing the top-level menu items
[08:44] <tjaalton> pitti: no, mine is that after unlocking I get a dialog like on this http://askubuntu.com/questions/230270/immediately-after-login-my-12-04-lts-desktop-asks-for-my-password-for-authenti
[08:44] <pitti> but it's completely inert to clicking on indicators
[08:44] <seb128> can you open it with the keyboard?
[08:44] <tjaalton> though my uid is same on passwd & net
[08:44] <pitti> tjaalton: ah, I sometimes have that too
[08:45] <pitti> seb128: how does that work? pressing alt doesn't do anything (but I don't know if it does normally)
[08:45] <seb128> pitti, alt-f10 should
[08:45] <pitti> seb128: interesting, that works
[08:45] <seb128> k, can you click with the mouse in apps?
[08:45] <seb128> or is it just the panel?
[08:45] <pitti> and I can e. g. operate the sound indicator with the keyboard
[08:46] <seb128> seems like a mouse issue more than unity one
[08:46] <pitti> seb128: just the panel, mouse works in general (terminal, browser, etc.)
[08:46] <seb128> weird
[08:46] <seb128> never saw that
[08:46] <seb128> no idea what it can be
[08:46] <seb128> also user switching here doesn't lead to a gnome-screensaver dialog for unlock
[08:46] <pitti> seb128: another user switchign back and forth and it works agin *shrug*
[08:47] <seb128> did you activate a11y?
[08:47] <pitti> anyway, user switching indeed doesn't do the double lock thing
[08:47] <pitti> seb128: not knowingly
[08:47] <seb128> it would always use gnome-screensaver if that was the issue
[08:47] <seb128> so it's only on lid close suspend?
[08:47] <pitti> that's what I had over the weekend, yes
[08:48] <pitti> just tried suspend from the indicator, that also works
[08:48] <pitti> so apparently specific to the lid
[08:49] <seb128> does it still do it with the lid?
[08:50] <seb128> fun, I also have you 'can't click on unity elements' now :-/
[08:50] <pitti> seb128: can't take it out of the dock right now, but I'll try in a bit
[08:51] <seb128> pitti, you can change the settings to suspend on lid close on power if you want to test without undocking
[08:51] <seb128> or does it inhibit that when using external monitors?
[08:51] <pitti> ah
[08:52] <seb128> shrug, my mouse clicks is also buggy on unity elements, I wonder if that's due to the user switching
[08:52] <pitti> control center already says to go to suspend when closing the lid, so apparently the dock just generally inhibits that
[08:52] <seb128> I think it's the external monitor
[08:52] <pitti> seb128: I didn't try the launcher, just the panel
[08:52] <seb128> pitti, locking/unlocking fixex my clicking
[08:53] <larsu> good morning!
[08:53] <larsu> errm, "morning"
[08:53] <seb128> Trevinho, andyrock, ^ I hope it's not a regression from the recent grab/lockscreen fixes
[08:53] <pitti> seb128: ... so in conclusion, larsu will fix that
[08:53] <seb128> hey larsu, how are you?
[08:53] <seb128> pitti, indeed!
[08:53]  * pitti ^5s seb128 and larsu
[08:53]  * seb128 ^5 pitti and larsu
[08:53]  * larsu is afraid of pitti
[08:54] <seb128> larsu, did you have a good flight back/w.e? feeling better?
[08:54] <larsu> seb128: slept a lot on the weekend and feel better now (but still not all the way healthy)
[08:54]  * pitti howls, it's werewolf week
[08:54] <larsu> pitti: are you in London?
[08:54] <didrocks> hey larsu!
[08:54] <pitti> larsu: no, just went back from Dresden to Augsburg yesterday, I skipped the release sprint
[08:54] <larsu> bonjour didrocks!
[08:55] <larsu> pitti: ah ok. We put Laney there as you representative ;)
[08:59] <Laney> hey larsu!
[08:59] <seb128> pitti, can you try if you do ctrl-alt-l if you can open the indicators in the lock by using the mouse? and if then it works again in the session after unlocking?
[08:59] <cyphermox> pitti!
[08:59] <Laney> apw is just saying that he has this bug
[09:00] <seb128> oh, cyphermox is up ... in London?
[09:00] <Laney> the double unlock thing
[09:00] <cyphermox> seb128: yeah.
[09:00] <larsu> hi Laney! How's the office this week?
[09:00] <seb128> Laney, double unlock or different unlock?
[09:00] <Laney> g-s then unity
[09:00] <seb128> Laney, is that on lid close also?
[09:00] <Laney> yes
[09:00] <seb128> k, I don't have lid close set to suspend
[09:00] <seb128> so never tried that
[09:00] <Laney> so does he
[09:00] <seb128> Laney, does it do it for you as well?
[09:00] <Laney> never seen that
[09:00] <larsu> seb128 is the only person in the world with that configuration
[09:00] <seb128> when did he start?
[09:01] <seb128> larsu, what? lid close not suspending?
[09:01] <larsu> ya :)
[09:01] <seb128> I'm the online one wanting to walk from big table to meeting room with my laptop under my arm and my IRC connection to stay up?
[09:01] <seb128> weird... :p
[09:01] <Laney> he says it was since he got a new drive that sometimes takes longer to resume
[09:02] <seb128> so not a recent regression?
[09:02] <seb128> did he report a bug?
[09:02] <Laney> maybe not
[09:02] <Laney> dunno
[09:04] <willcooke> I noticed an issue last week where if I had the the "restart or shutdown" U7 dialogue on the screen and then I closed the lid then when it woke up again I couldn't click on the close button.  Might that be related?  Trevinho was working on that
[09:06] <Laney> oh, seems to be here
[09:07] <seb128> here?
[09:07] <Laney> apw that is
[09:07] <seb128> oh, ok
[09:08] <seb128> willcooke, that bug was fixed with friday's landing
[09:08] <seb128> bug 1505234
[09:13] <willcooke> seb128, right, I was wondering if that might be related
[09:13] <seb128> I don't think it is, I looked at the diff for that change
[09:13] <willcooke> kk, thx
[09:13] <seb128> it's basically "if (dialog_open) then close_dialog"
[09:16] <willcooke> heh
[09:16] <davmor2> willcooke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner/+bug/1507507
[09:17] <willcooke> thanks davmor2
[09:38] <Laney> seb128: Trevinho: we gots a bug number now https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1507514
[09:42] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[09:43] <seb128> Laney, can you confirm if it's a recent regression or not?
[09:43] <seb128> like something that got screwed in friday's landing
[09:43] <seb128> or if that started before
[09:43] <Laney> seb128: before
[09:43] <seb128> k, good
[09:43] <Laney> it was probably just exposed for apw when he got the new drive which triggers whatever condition
[09:44] <Laney> don't know if anything else changed for pitti to make it more likely now
[09:44] <seb128> so it just coincidence that pitti started getting it as well
[09:44] <seb128> need to go for some errands and lunch
[09:44] <seb128> bbiab
[09:45] <apw> seb128, Laney, right, i assume this is a timing issue that "my disk is incredibly slow after resume for a bit" is exposing
[09:45] <Laney> anyway
[09:45] <Laney> does unity drop the screensaver name on suspend or something?
[10:20] <Trevinho> seb128, Laney: looking at the lockscreen thing. Unity changes shouldn't have caused that, but.... maybe I missed something
[10:24] <Laney> Trevinho: I don't think it's new
[10:25] <Laney> still seems annoying though
[10:29] <darkxst> you have potentially three apps sharing org.gnome.screensaver namespace
[10:29] <Trevinho> damn thunderbird now starts fullscreen here and I don't know how to unfullscreen it (F11 doesn't work there) nor workaround in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/196058
[10:37] <Laney> darkxst: I would think that unity holds it the whole time though, so g-s can't get involved
[10:37] <Laney> we allow gnome-screensaver to be replaced but not the other way around (IIRC)
[10:38] <darkxst> Laney, not if you somehow release it on suspend or what not
[10:39] <Laney> that's what I asked :)
[10:42] <darkxst> Laney, I didnt quite get that far through scrollback before replying
[10:43]  * Laney nods
[10:45] <darkxst> how did the sprint go?
[11:11] <qengho> good morning.
[11:51] <seb128> hey qengho, had a good trip back?
[11:54] <qengho> seb128: The transit was fine. The two hour delay before it was annoying. How about yours?
[11:55] <seb128> mine was uneventful, which is good
[11:58] <qengho> I think coming back was my 50th transit over the Atlantic.
[11:58] <Laney> darkxst: not bad, mainly fixed bugs instead of having meetings which was nice ;-)
[11:58] <Laney> hey qengho
[11:58]  * Laney has just been tossed
[11:59] <qengho> hiya, Laney!
[12:01] <attente> hi
[12:02] <qengho> Good morrow, attente.
[12:03] <attente> hey qengho
[12:06]  * Sweet5hark had an extra night of being stranded at london heathrow. :/
[12:07] <seb128> hey attente
[12:07] <seb128> Sweet5hark, what happened there?
[12:07] <attente> hi seb128
[12:07] <seb128> had a good saturday/trip back?
[12:11] <Sweet5hark> seb128: tube was temporarily closed due to "congestions" at paddington, which caused me delays and confusion, missing the Heathrow Express. When I arrived in the terminal it still said "priority boarding at B26". when I was at the desk, the clerk said (after typing for 45 seconds on his terminal): "its 14:06, the flight was closed at 14:05, go to the ticket desk and buy a rebooking ..."
[12:11] <seb128> urg
[12:13] <Sweet5hark> ... so rebooked for the next day (no flights on same day) and stayed at a airport hotel for 55 pounds (better than going back to london for 35 pounds alone and then trying to find a hotel).
[12:15] <seb128> yeah, that's quite cheap hotel price for London
[12:18] <didrocks> (and even more for an airport…)
[13:22]  * Trevinho got the uncle badge.
[13:23] <didrocks> congrats to the parents! I'm sure you played a key part into this :)
[13:23] <GunnarHj> cyphermox: A thought about bug #1465530: The installer does really not need to set LANGUAGE at all. It's sufficient that it sets LANG (with a valid value) and a bunch of LC_* variables if applicable.
[13:23] <willcooke> Trevinho, \o/
[13:23] <cyphermox> GunnarHj: done this way rather than LC_* on purpose.
[13:25] <GunnarHj> cyphermox: I don't understand "rather than LC_*".
[13:25] <Trevinho> :)
[13:25] <cyphermox> well, you don't necessary need to set LC_*, and LANGUAGE is used for fallback languages.
[13:25] <cyphermox> I english bad, sorry :)
[13:26] <GunnarHj> cyphermox: Yes, LANGUAGE is used for fallback languages, and since the installer only sets one language, the use of that variable is redundant.
[13:27] <cyphermox> sure, but it's there.
[13:27] <GunnarHj> cyphermox: LC_*, OTOH, need to be set since the installer 'guesses' the regional formats based on the selected time zone.
[13:30] <GunnarHj> cyphermox: That is, if the user selects a place which does not match the selected language, LC_* need  to be set. At least that's how it has worked for a few cycles now.
[13:31] <cyphermox> I haven't changed anything in how things are supposed to work normally, I only fixed a bug in a specific code path for pt and zh
[13:31] <cyphermox> something that was very broken
[13:32] <GunnarHj> cyphermox: Ok, understood. Yeah, it was very broken...
[13:35] <GunnarHj> seb128: Is there a need to change anything due to bug #1507500, considering that the causing localechooser bug is about to be fixed?
[13:36] <seb128> GunnarHj, your call, it still feels like the code shouldn't assert like that just because the environment misses a variable
[13:37] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, it would be possible to make a failure not-fatal, I suppose.
[13:37] <seb128> GunnarHj, unsure how common those buggy configs can be though, so we can try to fix the localechooser bugs and see if other users still have problematic environments
[13:39] <GunnarHj> seb128: The line fails as soon as the locale is broken, i.e. when the locale command in a terminal causes error messages. That can happen for many reasons, of course.
[13:39] <seb128> GunnarHj, it would be nicer to catch that exception and display a proper error about it or fallback to C or whatever makes sense
[13:40] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yeah, I think it would be nicer to catch it too. That way it will be possible (again) to use language-selector as a tool to fix a broken locale.
[13:41] <GunnarHj> seb128: I'll fix it.
[13:41] <seb128> GunnarHj, thanks
[14:27] <seb128> Laney, worth uploading https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?filename=gsl.debdiff;msg=5;att=1;bug=802326 or is that SRU material now?
[14:27] <seb128> it's not segfaulting for everyone, though it seems to lead to invalid dates as well
[14:27] <seb128> it's not an important application so unsure
[14:34] <Laney> seb128: looking
[14:35] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:44] <Laney> seb128: are you wanting me to sponsor this or you?
[14:45] <seb128> Laney, if you can do it that would be good, also I was unsure if we want this in wily in which case I should probably dput a 4~wily  rather than waiting on debian upload to be published so we can sync
[14:50]  * Laney looks
[15:05] <Sweet5hark> seb128, didrocks: will one of you be at http://www.opensourcesummit.paris/ by chance? or do you know if someone else will?
[15:05] <seb128> Sweet5hark, I'm not
[15:05] <seb128> and dunno
[15:06] <didrocks> Sweet5hark: neither will I, I can ask about ubuntu-fr community if you want
[15:06] <didrocks> (they have been in the past, when it was still "Paris Capital du Libre"
[15:07] <Sweet5hark> didrocks: well, hinting them at it just in case cant hurt ;)
[15:07] <didrocks> like "don't beat this guy" :)
[15:07] <didrocks> I'll!
[15:08]  * Sweet5hark just stumbled over this by accident ...
[15:09] <didrocks> Sweet5hark: on the image slideshow, there are some people from the french ubuntu community
[15:10]  * didrocks even spotted more friends
[15:10] <didrocks> (from other companies)
[15:24] <seb128> Laney, k, I'm uploading, feel free to reject if it's not good
[15:25] <seb128> oh, saw you commited to debian, thanks ;-)
[15:25] <seb128> Laney, you didn't reply though on whether that's something that we should get it or delay to SRU/next cycle
[15:28] <Laney> seb128: I did it
[15:29] <seb128> Laney, to Ubuntu as well?
[15:29] <seb128> seems so
[15:29] <Laney> 19/10 16:20:56 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-system-log (wily-proposed/main) [3.9.90-3 => 3.9.90-4] (ubuntu-desktop)
[15:29] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:37] <Sweet5hark> hmmm, this is weird: https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-staging/+build/8135956 says "failed to build" and "took 10 hours, 42 minutes 3.3 seconds" but there is no log ?!?
[15:41]  * Sweet5hark retries the build. :/
[15:43] <didrocks> seb128: I've removed python3-requests 4 from the desktop team ppa, uploaded there by mistake instead of the ubuntu-make one, sorry
[15:44] <seb128> didrocks, oh ok, I didn't notice but thanks ;-)
[15:44]  * didrocks needs one of the latest feature for test stability
[16:28] <seb128> happyaron, bug #1506502 ... you wrote "The status is that fcitx-mozc is not seeded in the images", does it mean you can't type japanese in a live session?
[16:31] <happyaron> seb128: no people can't
[16:31] <happyaron> seb128: neither Korean
[16:32] <seb128> happyaron, k, was that the case before the switch to fcitx? or was it working with ibus?
[16:32] <happyaron> seb128: that's the case of switching to mozc from anthy
[16:32] <happyaron> not about framework
[16:32] <seb128> k
[16:32] <seb128> should fcitx-mozc be installed on new installs with internet working?
[16:32] <happyaron> seb128: yes it should
[16:33] <seb128> that doesn't work
[16:34] <seb128> I just did a test install and confirmed
[16:34] <happyaron> seb128: do we have universe enabled during installation?
[16:34] <seb128> unsure
[16:35] <seb128> Laney, ^?
[16:35] <seb128> happyaron, if we install things  by default they should probably be in main
[16:35] <seb128> we have a seed for that which include langpacks, libreoffice dicts, etc
[16:35] <happyaron> seb128: then we need to prompt it (MIR approved)
[16:36] <GunnarHj> seb128, happyaron: I suspect that that problem is true for several packages which have been added to pkg_depends lately.
[16:37] <happyaron> though I believe gyp needs some more work to pass test cases
[16:37] <happyaron> GunnarHj: yep
[16:37] <happyaron> agree
[16:37] <happyaron> seb128: pkg_depends packages are not shown on the graph at people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive, nobody is prompting them...
[16:38] <GunnarHj> They need to be moved to main manually somehow, since no package depends on them.
[16:38] <seb128> happyaron, hum, k
[16:38] <seb128> GunnarHj, see what I just said, I think there is a seed for those things
[16:39] <seb128> but #ubuntu-release should know better
[16:39] <GunnarHj> seb128: No seed and no depend - that's why it needs to be done manually.
[16:40] <seb128> GunnarHj, yeah, what happyaron was asking about and what I'm unsure about is if ubiquity downloads things from universe
[16:40] <seb128> need to go for half an hour
[16:40] <seb128> bbiab
[16:41] <GunnarHj> seb128: Right, and for Unity it doesn't. That's why they need to be in main.
[16:41] <Laney> you don't have universe in the live session
[16:41] <Laney> I don't think
[16:41] <Laney> it gets enabled after that
[16:42] <seb128> Laney, that's not live session, that's things ubiquity downloads to install on the base system
 seb128: It should be seeded in live (and should be moved to main once it is).
[16:42] <seb128> GunnarHj, Laney, happyaron, ^ I guess somebody needs to do that
[16:42] <seb128> sorry have to go to pick up somebody, back later
[16:42] <Laney> yes but it can't download packages it doesn't know about
[16:42] <Laney> I presume that is the problem
[16:43] <seb128> right, need to go to live seed and be promoted I guess then?
[16:43] <GunnarHj> Laney: So the solution ought to be to move the packages to main. They are already MIRed.
[16:43] <seb128> GunnarHj, what other packages are in the same case?
[16:44] <GunnarHj> seb128: I'll check the latest pkg_depends changes.
[16:44] <Laney> GunnarHj: can you make a merge proposal for me to upload maybe?
[16:44] <Laney> or happyaron
[16:44] <Laney> I don't want to miss things
[16:44] <GunnarHj> Laney: What kind of MP would that be? They are already MIRed.
[16:45] <GunnarHj> Laney: But I can make a list of the latest additions to pkg_depends which I think are affected.
[16:46] <Laney> GunnarHj: to the seeds lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.wily live
[16:46] <happyaron> Laney: I guess they need to be prompted first?
[16:47] <Laney> not really, we'll get a message after uploading the ubuntu-meta
[16:47] <GunnarHj> Laney: But... Are they supposed to be seeded for all users?
[16:47] <Laney> if you do it into 'live' then they get installed on demand
[16:48] <Laney> (more accurately: removed on demand)
[16:48] <Laney> (from the installed system)
[16:48] <happyaron> GunnarHj: like all the fcitx stack, they are removed if pkg_dpends not requiring them
[16:48] <cyphermox> is there a different package we need for Korean or is that also handled by mozc?
[16:48] <GunnarHj> happyaron: Ok, I see.
[16:49] <happyaron> cyphermox: fcitx-hangul
[16:49] <happyaron> mozc is Japanese only
[16:50] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fcitx/+bug/1356222
[16:51]  * didrocks waves good evening and good night!
[16:55] <GunnarHj> happyaron, Laney, cyphermox: So, I suppose we are talking about:
[16:55] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-mozc
[16:55] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-hangul
[16:55] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-unikey
[17:07] <Laney> GunnarHj: 'kay
[17:16] <GunnarHj> happyaron: Did you see that list? ^ What about the Chinese fcitx engines?
[17:18] <happyaron> GunnarHj: if space is not a problem, then the one recommends by pkg_depends is welcomed
[17:19] <GunnarHj> happyaron: Do you mean that it's handled in UbuntuKylin, but not if you select Chinese when installing standard Ubuntu?
[17:20] <cyphermox> GunnarHj: ubuntukylin and ubuntu are built slightly differently when it comes to which packages are included.
[17:21] <GunnarHj> cyphermox: Ack.
[17:21] <cyphermox> so I'm not saying it necessarily all works on ubuntukylin, but some of the packages might be already included there.
[17:22] <Laney> shall I include those three for now, and we tweak next cycle if necessary?
[17:25] <GunnarHj> Laney: If we want to be consistent, and make Chinese installs work smoothly, these should be added to the list:
[17:25] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-sunpinyin
[17:25] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-pinyin
[17:26] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-table-wubi
[17:26] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-chewing
[17:26] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-pinyin
[17:26] <GunnarHj> - fcitx-table-cangjie
[17:26] <Laney> ...
[17:26] <Laney> this sounds like a lot
[17:26] <Laney> is there some overlap going on here?
[17:26] <GunnarHj> Laney: You'll have to ask happyaron about how important it would be.
[17:27] <Laney> can we sort it out in X please :)
[17:27] <happyaron> unfortunately no obvious overlap (fcitx-table-wubi needs fcitx-pinyin)
[17:28] <happyaron> space concerns are the reason I haven't proposed the MP to seed them all...
[17:29] <happyaron> big fat parts are sunpinyin and mozc.
[17:29] <Laney> I'm just doing the first three for now
[17:39] <Laney> seb128: can you promote these please?
[17:39] <Laney> fcitx-mozc fcitx-hangul fcitx-unikey
[17:40] <seb128> Laney, on it
[17:40] <Laney> nice
[17:41] <seb128> done
[17:41] <Laney> you rock
[17:41] <seb128> thanks, you too ;-)
[17:41] <seb128> still at the office?
[17:42] <Laney> yeah
[17:42] <Laney> putting in the hours for an early friday ;-)
[17:50] <Laney> happyaron: where is the fcitx-mozc MIR? ...
[17:50] <Laney> ah it comes from mozc itself
[17:53] <willcooke> oki, bugging out.  g'night.  thanks to everyone doing release work
[17:55] <Laney> seb128: I think you need to promote the source packages and mozc-server mozc-data too
[17:55] <Laney> unless it's just slow
[17:56] <seb128> Laney, I wish change-override would do the right thing when trying to promote one binary
[17:57] <seb128> oh, it's -B
[17:57] <seb128> Laney, fixing...
[17:58] <Laney> component-mismatches should show us if there are any remainign problems
[17:59] <seb128> Laney, done, should be good this time
[18:02] <Laney> excellent
[18:03] <Laney> didn't check build deps :P
[18:05] <qengho> Sweet5hark: http://www.flightdelays.co.uk/flight-delay-compensation
[18:05] <qengho> ^ Twitter ad. I'm a spammer now! O noes!
[18:20] <Laney> bah
[18:20] <Laney> looks like gyp needs fixing
[18:21] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozc/+bug/1486772 -> incomplete
[18:21] <Laney> but it is on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[19:47] <octoquad> evening, can anybody tell me if a translation fix after the language pack translation deadline will make it before the final release for ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu?
[19:48] <octoquad> ^ Re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1507736
[21:58] <qengho> Zzz
[22:25] <TheMuso> Morning all, been on for a while, but forgot to announce my presence. :p