=== timchen1` is now known as timchen119 === nudtrobert1 is now known as nudtrobert [05:24] Good morning [05:41] pitti: Hey there. [05:41] * TheMuso -> EOD. [05:42] hey TheMuso, have a nice evening! [06:51] good morning [07:46] good morning desktopers [07:49] re seb128 [07:49] re didrocks ;-) [07:52] morning [07:52] hey willcooke [07:55] hey willcooke [08:04] Laney, are you en route still? [08:07] HI! [08:07] willcooke: HERE! [08:07] hi Laney [08:07] Laney, let me know if you guys are missing anything [08:07] sleep [08:08] :) [08:09] morning Laney! [08:09] hey hey [08:09] how's it going? [08:09] good journey back? [08:09] yeah, uneventful :) [08:10] bonjour didrocks et seb128 -- bien rentrè ? [08:10] hey Laney, hello willcooke [08:10] pitti: très bien, merci ! comment était ton week-end ? [08:11] happy werewolf week! [08:11] pitti, salut, oui ! et toi, bon w.e ? [08:11] hey Laney, how is London this week? [08:11] Laney, how as your day out of the capital? ;-) [08:11] didrocks: beaucoup de voyage, on était à Dresden pour le 60ème anniversaire de ma tante [08:12] didrocks: donc un peu fatigué, mais je vais bien, merci ! [08:12] :) [08:15] hey seb128 [08:15] looks the same as before :P [08:15] someone has drawn some art on the wall next to turing [08:16] sounds cool [08:16] outlines of some people or something [08:16] oh, I miss the office today! [08:16] and it was great to be home for 23 hours :) [08:16] went climbing [08:16] hehe [08:17] I went to play some tennis yesterday, was good as well ;-y) [08:18] \o/ [08:26] seb128: willcooke: what was the result of the conversation regarding mediascanner 2 do we need a bug for it if popey didn't beat me to it? [08:27] davmor2, seb128 - did we ever get to the bottom of why it was installed? Was it the sdk after all? [08:27] willcooke: yeap sdk installs it [08:27] oki [08:27] it seems to be, a bug wouldn't hurt but ideally it's something to ask the unity api team about [08:28] what he said. A bug seems to be a reasonable place to track [08:28] seb128: right that was it thanks [08:28] yw [08:28] davmor2, if you can open a bug, I will chase with the API tedg [08:28] erm team [08:28] can't tab-complete words I'm thinking of in my head it seems [08:28] ;) [08:29] willcooke: I know right you need to make that happen [08:29] That would be so nice, just hold down tab all day and all my emails and spreadsheets write themselves [08:38] seb128, no not yet, havent been able to reproduce gdm crash here [08:38] hey darkxst [08:39] unsure what you refer to, I probably pinged you days ago and lost context [08:39] seb128, gdm crasher on e.u.c [08:39] oh, right [08:39] k [08:39] I guess it's going to be in the GNOME Remix release then :-/ [08:39] for a few days now, locking the screen (through suspend or user switching) requires unlocking with password twice -- once through classic screensaver (new and undesired) and then through the lightdm-like unity saver [08:39] is that a known regression? [08:39] no [08:39] tjaalton: ^ you had that too, right? [08:40] humm, Trevinho had fixed that once ^^^^ [08:40] pitti, does it do the same if you ctrl-alt-l? [08:40] seb128, I don't think its fatal [08:40] seb128: no, that seems to work [08:41] darkxst, no but it's the top report so it's spamming users with apport prompts, but it's your call to claim that a non issue [08:41] willcooke, no, the other issue was a lightdm regression and it would lead to a double unlock but greeter and unity lock [08:41] not gnome-screensaver [08:41] seb128: oh, user switching seems to work too, it's just on resume then [08:41] seb128, ah, kk [08:41] seb128, not claiming it a non-issue, but hard to debug if can't reproduce [08:41] meh, and now after user switching the unity panel froze [08:42] pitti, backtrace? [08:42] seb128: of unity-panel-service, or compiz? [08:43] u-p-s if it's only the panel [08:43] integrated menu still shows, but it doesn't react to clicks [08:43] hum [08:43] like you can click on indicators, menu popdown but you can't select items? [08:43] #1 0x00007fba84b7b1ec in g_main_context_iterate (priority=2147483647, n_fds=3, fds=0x1d1d8a0, timeout=, context=0x1b74770) at /build/glib2.0-ajuDY6/glib2.0-2.46.1/./glib/gmain.c:4135 [08:44] uninteresting [08:44] seb128: I mean that it reacts to changing window titles and showing the top-level menu items [08:44] pitti: no, mine is that after unlocking I get a dialog like on this http://askubuntu.com/questions/230270/immediately-after-login-my-12-04-lts-desktop-asks-for-my-password-for-authenti [08:44] but it's completely inert to clicking on indicators [08:44] can you open it with the keyboard? [08:44] though my uid is same on passwd & net [08:44] tjaalton: ah, I sometimes have that too [08:45] seb128: how does that work? pressing alt doesn't do anything (but I don't know if it does normally) [08:45] pitti, alt-f10 should [08:45] seb128: interesting, that works [08:45] k, can you click with the mouse in apps? [08:45] or is it just the panel? [08:45] and I can e. g. operate the sound indicator with the keyboard [08:46] seems like a mouse issue more than unity one [08:46] seb128: just the panel, mouse works in general (terminal, browser, etc.) [08:46] weird [08:46] never saw that [08:46] no idea what it can be [08:46] also user switching here doesn't lead to a gnome-screensaver dialog for unlock [08:46] seb128: another user switchign back and forth and it works agin *shrug* [08:47] did you activate a11y? [08:47] anyway, user switching indeed doesn't do the double lock thing [08:47] seb128: not knowingly [08:47] it would always use gnome-screensaver if that was the issue [08:47] so it's only on lid close suspend? [08:47] that's what I had over the weekend, yes [08:48] just tried suspend from the indicator, that also works [08:48] so apparently specific to the lid [08:49] does it still do it with the lid? [08:50] fun, I also have you 'can't click on unity elements' now :-/ [08:50] seb128: can't take it out of the dock right now, but I'll try in a bit [08:51] pitti, you can change the settings to suspend on lid close on power if you want to test without undocking [08:51] or does it inhibit that when using external monitors? [08:51] ah [08:52] shrug, my mouse clicks is also buggy on unity elements, I wonder if that's due to the user switching [08:52] control center already says to go to suspend when closing the lid, so apparently the dock just generally inhibits that [08:52] I think it's the external monitor [08:52] seb128: I didn't try the launcher, just the panel [08:52] pitti, locking/unlocking fixex my clicking [08:53] good morning! [08:53] errm, "morning" [08:53] Trevinho, andyrock, ^ I hope it's not a regression from the recent grab/lockscreen fixes [08:53] seb128: ... so in conclusion, larsu will fix that [08:53] hey larsu, how are you? [08:53] pitti, indeed! [08:53] * pitti ^5s seb128 and larsu [08:53] * seb128 ^5 pitti and larsu [08:53] * larsu is afraid of pitti [08:54] larsu, did you have a good flight back/w.e? feeling better? [08:54] seb128: slept a lot on the weekend and feel better now (but still not all the way healthy) [08:54] * pitti howls, it's werewolf week [08:54] pitti: are you in London? [08:54] hey larsu! [08:54] larsu: no, just went back from Dresden to Augsburg yesterday, I skipped the release sprint [08:54] bonjour didrocks! [08:55] pitti: ah ok. We put Laney there as you representative ;) [08:59] hey larsu! [08:59] pitti, can you try if you do ctrl-alt-l if you can open the indicators in the lock by using the mouse? and if then it works again in the session after unlocking? [08:59] pitti! [08:59] apw is just saying that he has this bug [09:00] oh, cyphermox is up ... in London? [09:00] the double unlock thing [09:00] seb128: yeah. [09:00] hi Laney! How's the office this week? [09:00] Laney, double unlock or different unlock? [09:00] g-s then unity [09:00] Laney, is that on lid close also? [09:00] yes [09:00] k, I don't have lid close set to suspend [09:00] so never tried that [09:00] so does he [09:00] Laney, does it do it for you as well? [09:00] never seen that [09:00] seb128 is the only person in the world with that configuration [09:00] when did he start? [09:01] larsu, what? lid close not suspending? [09:01] ya :) [09:01] I'm the online one wanting to walk from big table to meeting room with my laptop under my arm and my IRC connection to stay up? [09:01] weird... :p [09:01] he says it was since he got a new drive that sometimes takes longer to resume [09:02] so not a recent regression? [09:02] did he report a bug? [09:02] maybe not [09:02] dunno [09:04] I noticed an issue last week where if I had the the "restart or shutdown" U7 dialogue on the screen and then I closed the lid then when it woke up again I couldn't click on the close button. Might that be related? Trevinho was working on that [09:06] oh, seems to be here [09:07] here? [09:07] apw that is [09:07] oh, ok [09:08] willcooke, that bug was fixed with friday's landing [09:08] bug 1505234 [09:08] bug 1505234 in Unity "Shutdown dialog prevents unity to lock" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505234 [09:13] seb128, right, I was wondering if that might be related [09:13] I don't think it is, I looked at the diff for that change [09:13] kk, thx [09:13] it's basically "if (dialog_open) then close_dialog" [09:16] heh [09:16] willcooke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner/+bug/1507507 [09:16] Launchpad bug 1507507 in mediascanner "Mediascanner2.0 on desktop makes burning rw dvd impossible" [Undecided,New] [09:17] thanks davmor2 [09:38] seb128: Trevinho: we gots a bug number now https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1507514 [09:38] Launchpad bug 1507514 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity and gnome-screen saver both triggered on resume" [Undecided,New] [09:42] Laney, thanks [09:43] Laney, can you confirm if it's a recent regression or not? [09:43] like something that got screwed in friday's landing [09:43] or if that started before [09:43] seb128: before [09:43] k, good [09:43] it was probably just exposed for apw when he got the new drive which triggers whatever condition [09:44] don't know if anything else changed for pitti to make it more likely now [09:44] so it just coincidence that pitti started getting it as well [09:44] need to go for some errands and lunch [09:44] bbiab [09:45] seb128, Laney, right, i assume this is a timing issue that "my disk is incredibly slow after resume for a bit" is exposing [09:45] anyway [09:45] does unity drop the screensaver name on suspend or something? [10:20] seb128, Laney: looking at the lockscreen thing. Unity changes shouldn't have caused that, but.... maybe I missed something [10:24] Trevinho: I don't think it's new [10:25] still seems annoying though [10:29] you have potentially three apps sharing org.gnome.screensaver namespace [10:29] damn thunderbird now starts fullscreen here and I don't know how to unfullscreen it (F11 doesn't work there) nor workaround in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/196058 [10:29] Launchpad bug 196058 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Thunderbird starts in a full-screen mode and cannot be restored" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:37] darkxst: I would think that unity holds it the whole time though, so g-s can't get involved [10:37] we allow gnome-screensaver to be replaced but not the other way around (IIRC) [10:38] Laney, not if you somehow release it on suspend or what not [10:39] that's what I asked :) [10:42] Laney, I didnt quite get that far through scrollback before replying [10:43] * Laney nods [10:45] how did the sprint go? === willcooke_ is now known as willcooke [11:11] good morning. [11:51] hey qengho, had a good trip back? [11:54] seb128: The transit was fine. The two hour delay before it was annoying. How about yours? [11:55] mine was uneventful, which is good [11:58] I think coming back was my 50th transit over the Atlantic. [11:58] darkxst: not bad, mainly fixed bugs instead of having meetings which was nice ;-) [11:58] hey qengho [11:58] * Laney has just been tossed [11:59] hiya, Laney! [12:01] hi === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:02] Good morrow, attente. [12:03] hey qengho [12:06] * Sweet5hark had an extra night of being stranded at london heathrow. :/ [12:07] hey attente [12:07] Sweet5hark, what happened there? [12:07] hi seb128 [12:07] had a good saturday/trip back? [12:11] seb128: tube was temporarily closed due to "congestions" at paddington, which caused me delays and confusion, missing the Heathrow Express. When I arrived in the terminal it still said "priority boarding at B26". when I was at the desk, the clerk said (after typing for 45 seconds on his terminal): "its 14:06, the flight was closed at 14:05, go to the ticket desk and buy a rebooking ..." [12:11] urg [12:13] ... so rebooked for the next day (no flights on same day) and stayed at a airport hotel for 55 pounds (better than going back to london for 35 pounds alone and then trying to find a hotel). [12:15] yeah, that's quite cheap hotel price for London [12:18] (and even more for an airport…) === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:22] * Trevinho got the uncle badge. [13:23] congrats to the parents! I'm sure you played a key part into this :) [13:23] cyphermox: A thought about bug #1465530: The installer does really not need to set LANGUAGE at all. It's sufficient that it sets LANG (with a valid value) and a bunch of LC_* variables if applicable. [13:23] bug 1465530 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Content in /etc/default/locale not correct for zh and pt locales" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465530 [13:23] Trevinho, \o/ === balloons is now known as Guest77565 [13:23] GunnarHj: done this way rather than LC_* on purpose. [13:25] cyphermox: I don't understand "rather than LC_*". [13:25] :) === Guest77565 is now known as balloons_ [13:25] well, you don't necessary need to set LC_*, and LANGUAGE is used for fallback languages. [13:25] I english bad, sorry :) [13:26] cyphermox: Yes, LANGUAGE is used for fallback languages, and since the installer only sets one language, the use of that variable is redundant. [13:27] sure, but it's there. [13:27] cyphermox: LC_*, OTOH, need to be set since the installer 'guesses' the regional formats based on the selected time zone. [13:30] cyphermox: That is, if the user selects a place which does not match the selected language, LC_* need to be set. At least that's how it has worked for a few cycles now. [13:31] I haven't changed anything in how things are supposed to work normally, I only fixed a bug in a specific code path for pt and zh [13:31] something that was very broken [13:32] cyphermox: Ok, understood. Yeah, it was very broken... [13:35] seb128: Is there a need to change anything due to bug #1507500, considering that the causing localechooser bug is about to be fixed? [13:35] bug 1507500 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-language-selector:locale.Error:on_activate:__init__:wrapper:check_input_methods:getCurrentInputMethod:setlocale" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507500 [13:36] GunnarHj, your call, it still feels like the code shouldn't assert like that just because the environment misses a variable [13:37] seb128: Ok, it would be possible to make a failure not-fatal, I suppose. [13:37] GunnarHj, unsure how common those buggy configs can be though, so we can try to fix the localechooser bugs and see if other users still have problematic environments [13:39] seb128: The line fails as soon as the locale is broken, i.e. when the locale command in a terminal causes error messages. That can happen for many reasons, of course. [13:39] GunnarHj, it would be nicer to catch that exception and display a proper error about it or fallback to C or whatever makes sense [13:40] seb128: Yeah, I think it would be nicer to catch it too. That way it will be possible (again) to use language-selector as a tool to fix a broken locale. [13:41] seb128: I'll fix it. [13:41] GunnarHj, thanks === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 === balloons_ is now known as balloons [14:27] Laney, worth uploading https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?filename=gsl.debdiff;msg=5;att=1;bug=802326 or is that SRU material now? [14:27] it's not segfaulting for everyone, though it seems to lead to invalid dates as well [14:27] it's not an important application so unsure [14:34] seb128: looking [14:35] Laney, thanks [14:44] seb128: are you wanting me to sponsor this or you? [14:45] Laney, if you can do it that would be good, also I was unsure if we want this in wily in which case I should probably dput a 4~wily rather than waiting on debian upload to be published so we can sync [14:50] * Laney looks [15:05] seb128, didrocks: will one of you be at http://www.opensourcesummit.paris/ by chance? or do you know if someone else will? [15:05] Sweet5hark, I'm not [15:05] and dunno [15:06] Sweet5hark: neither will I, I can ask about ubuntu-fr community if you want [15:06] (they have been in the past, when it was still "Paris Capital du Libre" [15:07] didrocks: well, hinting them at it just in case cant hurt ;) [15:07] like "don't beat this guy" :) [15:07] I'll! [15:08] * Sweet5hark just stumbled over this by accident ... [15:09] Sweet5hark: on the image slideshow, there are some people from the french ubuntu community [15:10] * didrocks even spotted more friends [15:10] (from other companies) [15:24] Laney, k, I'm uploading, feel free to reject if it's not good [15:25] oh, saw you commited to debian, thanks ;-) [15:25] Laney, you didn't reply though on whether that's something that we should get it or delay to SRU/next cycle [15:28] seb128: I did it [15:29] Laney, to Ubuntu as well? [15:29] seems so [15:29] 19/10 16:20:56 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-system-log (wily-proposed/main) [3.9.90-3 => 3.9.90-4] (ubuntu-desktop) [15:29] Laney, thanks [15:37] hmmm, this is weird: https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-staging/+build/8135956 says "failed to build" and "took 10 hours, 42 minutes 3.3 seconds" but there is no log ?!? [15:41] * Sweet5hark retries the build. :/ [15:43] seb128: I've removed python3-requests 4 from the desktop team ppa, uploaded there by mistake instead of the ubuntu-make one, sorry [15:44] didrocks, oh ok, I didn't notice but thanks ;-) [15:44] * didrocks needs one of the latest feature for test stability [16:28] happyaron, bug #1506502 ... you wrote "The status is that fcitx-mozc is not seeded in the images", does it mean you can't type japanese in a live session? [16:28] bug 1506502 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "fcitx-mozc is not installed by default on Ubuntu 15.10" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1506502 [16:31] seb128: no people can't [16:31] seb128: neither Korean [16:32] happyaron, k, was that the case before the switch to fcitx? or was it working with ibus? [16:32] seb128: that's the case of switching to mozc from anthy [16:32] not about framework [16:32] k [16:32] should fcitx-mozc be installed on new installs with internet working? [16:32] seb128: yes it should [16:33] that doesn't work [16:34] I just did a test install and confirmed [16:34] seb128: do we have universe enabled during installation? [16:34] unsure [16:35] Laney, ^? [16:35] happyaron, if we install things by default they should probably be in main [16:35] we have a seed for that which include langpacks, libreoffice dicts, etc [16:35] seb128: then we need to prompt it (MIR approved) [16:36] seb128, happyaron: I suspect that that problem is true for several packages which have been added to pkg_depends lately. [16:37] though I believe gyp needs some more work to pass test cases [16:37] GunnarHj: yep [16:37] agree [16:37] seb128: pkg_depends packages are not shown on the graph at people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive, nobody is prompting them... [16:38] They need to be moved to main manually somehow, since no package depends on them. [16:38] happyaron, hum, k [16:38] GunnarHj, see what I just said, I think there is a seed for those things [16:39] but #ubuntu-release should know better [16:39] seb128: No seed and no depend - that's why it needs to be done manually. [16:40] GunnarHj, yeah, what happyaron was asking about and what I'm unsure about is if ubiquity downloads things from universe [16:40] need to go for half an hour [16:40] bbiab [16:41] seb128: Right, and for Unity it doesn't. That's why they need to be in main. [16:41] you don't have universe in the live session [16:41] I don't think [16:41] it gets enabled after that [16:42] Laney, that's not live session, that's things ubiquity downloads to install on the base system [16:42] seb128: It should be seeded in live (and should be moved to main once it is). [16:42] GunnarHj, Laney, happyaron, ^ I guess somebody needs to do that [16:42] sorry have to go to pick up somebody, back later [16:42] yes but it can't download packages it doesn't know about [16:42] I presume that is the problem [16:43] right, need to go to live seed and be promoted I guess then? [16:43] Laney: So the solution ought to be to move the packages to main. They are already MIRed. [16:43] GunnarHj, what other packages are in the same case? [16:44] seb128: I'll check the latest pkg_depends changes. [16:44] GunnarHj: can you make a merge proposal for me to upload maybe? [16:44] or happyaron [16:44] I don't want to miss things [16:44] Laney: What kind of MP would that be? They are already MIRed. [16:45] Laney: But I can make a list of the latest additions to pkg_depends which I think are affected. [16:46] GunnarHj: to the seeds lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.wily live [16:46] Laney: I guess they need to be prompted first? [16:47] not really, we'll get a message after uploading the ubuntu-meta [16:47] Laney: But... Are they supposed to be seeded for all users? [16:47] if you do it into 'live' then they get installed on demand [16:48] (more accurately: removed on demand) [16:48] (from the installed system) [16:48] GunnarHj: like all the fcitx stack, they are removed if pkg_dpends not requiring them [16:48] is there a different package we need for Korean or is that also handled by mozc? [16:48] happyaron: Ok, I see. [16:49] cyphermox: fcitx-hangul [16:49] mozc is Japanese only [16:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fcitx/+bug/1356222 [16:50] Launchpad bug 1356222 in libgooglepinyin (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fcitx and related packages" [Undecided,Fix committed] [16:51] * didrocks waves good evening and good night! [16:55] happyaron, Laney, cyphermox: So, I suppose we are talking about: [16:55] - fcitx-mozc [16:55] - fcitx-hangul [16:55] - fcitx-unikey === mfisch` is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest27947 === Guest27947 is now known as mfisch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:07] GunnarHj: 'kay [17:16] happyaron: Did you see that list? ^ What about the Chinese fcitx engines? [17:18] GunnarHj: if space is not a problem, then the one recommends by pkg_depends is welcomed [17:19] happyaron: Do you mean that it's handled in UbuntuKylin, but not if you select Chinese when installing standard Ubuntu? [17:20] GunnarHj: ubuntukylin and ubuntu are built slightly differently when it comes to which packages are included. [17:21] cyphermox: Ack. [17:21] so I'm not saying it necessarily all works on ubuntukylin, but some of the packages might be already included there. [17:22] shall I include those three for now, and we tweak next cycle if necessary? [17:25] Laney: If we want to be consistent, and make Chinese installs work smoothly, these should be added to the list: [17:25] - fcitx-sunpinyin [17:25] - fcitx-pinyin [17:26] - fcitx-table-wubi [17:26] - fcitx-chewing [17:26] - fcitx-pinyin [17:26] - fcitx-table-cangjie [17:26] ... [17:26] this sounds like a lot [17:26] is there some overlap going on here? [17:26] Laney: You'll have to ask happyaron about how important it would be. [17:27] can we sort it out in X please :) [17:27] unfortunately no obvious overlap (fcitx-table-wubi needs fcitx-pinyin) [17:28] space concerns are the reason I haven't proposed the MP to seed them all... [17:29] big fat parts are sunpinyin and mozc. [17:29] I'm just doing the first three for now [17:39] seb128: can you promote these please? [17:39] fcitx-mozc fcitx-hangul fcitx-unikey [17:40] Laney, on it [17:40] nice [17:41] done [17:41] you rock [17:41] thanks, you too ;-) [17:41] still at the office? [17:42] yeah [17:42] putting in the hours for an early friday ;-) [17:50] happyaron: where is the fcitx-mozc MIR? ... [17:50] ah it comes from mozc itself [17:53] oki, bugging out. g'night. thanks to everyone doing release work [17:55] seb128: I think you need to promote the source packages and mozc-server mozc-data too [17:55] unless it's just slow [17:56] Laney, I wish change-override would do the right thing when trying to promote one binary [17:57] oh, it's -B [17:57] Laney, fixing... [17:58] component-mismatches should show us if there are any remainign problems [17:59] Laney, done, should be good this time [18:02] excellent [18:03] didn't check build deps :P [18:05]