[04:08] xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin, xfce4-verve-plugin, and xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin uploaded too. === qwebirc826402 is now known as slickymasterWork [11:28] we'll probably need to fix this pre-release or with an SRU, https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/catfish/+bug/1501565 [11:28] Launchpad bug 1501565 in Catfish "crash in en_US locale for non-sudoer user" [Undecided,New] [11:29] If we can test this easily (create a test user, make sure they are not in sudoers), that'd be cool [12:00] bluesabre, checked and confirmed on RC image [12:00] do you want to add anything to that report? [12:00] + me [12:05] slickymasterWork: just that it also affects ubuntu [12:05] gotta run, bbl [12:41] slickymasterWork bluesabre - commented in that report [12:47] sent the users and invite to testing :p === cmars` is now known as cmars [13:06] flashing green bar to tell you where to type then [13:09] installing to ssd is so quick that the enter for the next comment from tracker9 became the restart after install :p [13:10] jjfrv8: I tried to make that affect catfish(ubuntu) but it wouldn't find it :( [13:32] flocculant, bluesabre, added my to the bug. It's now confirmed [13:36] ta === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 [15:18] knome: yep - I'll probably just do new ones - easier than fiddling with the old ones [15:42] knome: also - if we want to take the contribute/qa page back to something more basic - I've transferred it to wiki and we could have wiki/Xubuntu/Testing/page there [16:39] dkessel: if you get time - can you check the iso you have and that failed install - cheers [16:53] flocculant: currently running another installation with the same medium. checked the iso MD5, ran the image selftest... [16:57] btw: should there be a battery status icon (from xfpm or something) during the install? [17:02] not sure tbh - only thing I have with a battery *needs* to be connected to mains ... [17:03] !team [17:03] bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 [17:04] can anyone confirm an issue with catfish - unlock database - hangs updating [17:04] didn't ask password either [17:05] flocculant: nope, asks for password [17:05] and updates [17:05] not a clean install though [17:05] ok cool :) [17:06] just checked with live too [17:06] give me sec flocculant [17:06] yeah, live works here, too. [17:07] mhhh i guess i will close that kernel bug if another install goes through without kernel panic [17:08] dkessel: ack - I installed that to hardware a few hours ago - infinity was a tad perturbed I guess [17:09] flocculant: no seeing it either [17:09] RC image [17:09] it did ask for the password and finished the database update [17:13] k - thanks both :) [17:13] obviously broken it here :p [17:20] that's because you're the QA lead :P [17:21] hah [17:32] ochosi: mousepad view - I see where that's set y default settings - but where does the 'colour' for the highlight when you search come from? [17:33] slightly older people might welcome a change - hard to see what you've Ctrl+F'd as it it [17:33] As one of those...+2 :) [17:34] blame bluesabre for "Usability bug reports are fair game" ... ;) [17:34] hi drc :) [17:34] Hey flocculant [17:35] Yeah, He appears to have developed pronounced sado-machocistic tendencies :) [17:35] :D [17:39] ochosi: re: mousepad highlight color...just a tad darker, just enough to see it more distinctly. [17:41] hah! now after installing, i have that exact same catfish freeze, flocculant [17:43] flocculant: if you run "catfish -v" in a terminal, you will likely see an "UnboundLocalError: local variable 'password' referenced before assignment [17:43] also, bluesabre ^ [17:49] let me check that dkessel [17:52] nopes, dkessel [17:52] still working as expected [17:52] Doesn't the user have to be non-sudoer? [17:53] IIRC from the log. [17:54] slickymasterWork: well flocculant and me can reproduce it :p i couldn't reproduce it on this old installation here, either, or on the live image. but on the fresh installation, it happened two times now [17:55] bluesabre: http://pastebin.com/YLwjtn5D [17:56] first run with -v it asked for password and ran, second run without the -v it hangs unlocking [17:56] dkessel: well that's odd - with verbose it worked [17:56] drc, that one is bug 1501565 [17:56] bug 1501565 in catfish (Ubuntu) "crash in en_US locale for non-sudoer user" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501565 [17:56] a different [17:56] one [17:57] i understand that it might be timing related from the log [17:57] well, i have DE locale [17:58] yeah, but that's a different one [17:58] what I find odd is the fact that I'm not getting it [17:59] yea [18:00] do you want any special info on my box setup, flocculant? [18:00] it's a clean RC image though [18:20] slickymaster: no - unless we ask [18:40] oki doke [18:41] by we *we* :p [18:41] I mean [18:42] ... mean... [18:42] ?! [18:42] by we I mean *we* :p [18:43] * slickymaster is lost re who the hell we might be :P [18:43] well we doesn't include me :p [18:43] heh [18:44] but bluesabre most likely or someone more codelike in the team [18:44] * slickymaster is at their service [18:45] :) [19:11] Ahh, got my coffee. Nice warm beverage, though does taste a tad off. [19:13] try milk instead of youghurt [19:14] Nooo, black. [19:17] slickymaster: so in a vm installed from RC then updated - catfish crunches, running with -v in a vm - no different at all [19:18] so that's odd [19:19] yeas [19:19] I won't touch the installation I have in case bluesabre will want any info/data out of it [19:20] well it fails here too [19:27] sigh - this is why I'm right to bring package testing back [19:28] well dinner time for me [19:29] k [19:29] gonna do a clean hardware install [19:30] Open Catfish → Gear Icon → Update index ? [19:30] Unit193: failing for you? [19:31] Works fine™ [19:31] and all updated [19:31] Well, not technically, didn't run it today yet but yesterday was. [19:31] Installed: 1.3.3-0ubuntu1 [19:32] This is a system upgrade, amd64. [19:32] yea - just wonder if this is caused by other recent updates [19:33] Oh hah, nevermind. It is broken, yes. [19:33] ok cool [19:33] in a manner of speaking [19:33] unit193 2688 0.0 0.1 12464 2684 pts/10 S+ 15:29 0:00 | | \_ bash /usr/bin/catfish [19:34] unit193 2689 0.7 2.7 864992 53148 pts/10 Sl+ 15:29 0:02 | | \_ python3 /usr/share/catfish/bin/catfish.py [19:34] root 2718 0.0 0.1 58796 3636 pts/14 Ss+ 15:29 0:00 | | \_ /usr/bin/sudo updatedb [19:34] Unit193: but running catfish -v works? [19:36] Still UnboundLocalError: local variable 'password' referenced before assignment [19:37] aah, now that's failing here [19:38] which is now weirder [19:38] how does something that was working 10 minutes ago - not work now [19:39] well that's typical for a timing related bug :) [19:40] dkessel: awesome timing - waits till Unit193 starts talking and suddenly fails :p [19:40] he must be pushing the button right over there [19:40] heh [19:41] dkessel: did that install work btw? [19:41] flocculant, re: website, i think it's better to have the new stuff there until we have a sensible and sustainable place for the developer documentation... [19:41] flocculant, and now as you have poked docbook a little - let me remind you that one option is to create another set of documentation in docbook for contributors [19:41] okey doke - just thought I would mention that [19:41] flocculant, with all kinds of silly pdf output formats [19:42] flocculant: oh yeah it did. invalidated that bug. i guess the sd card broke somehow. i can't write anything anymore to it now. so maybe the sd card was the cause [19:42] knome: ok - and put it where? [19:42] dkessel: ok - thanks :) [19:42] flocculant, can be on the website, on a subdomain, can be shipped with the system - [19:42] flocculant, no limits there, whatever we feel is the best place for it [19:43] knome: so what we've got in docbook? [19:43] flocculant, our documentation [19:43] flocculant, which you have just recently poked... [19:43] sorry - lack of punctuation didn't help then at all :p [19:43] ahah [19:44] I meant - what we've got on website - but in docbook :) [19:44] flocculant, well, yes and no - the website should still probably have the very basics [19:44] flocculant, but the docbook stuff could be a full guide to silly things [19:44] right [19:45] flocculant, and one good thing about it would be that we could write an appendix about using bzr and launchpad [19:45] flocculant, and then simply cross-reference to it whenever we need to [19:45] ack [19:45] happy to start looking at that [19:45] flocculant, not that we can't do that with the website or wiki, but you know how messy it gets [19:45] yea [19:45] flocculant, so - that's just one option - and the argument that "docbook is hard BOOHOO" stays :P [19:46] ha ha [19:46] (it isn't, but it's of course more than editing a wiki) [19:46] well [19:46] these things are generally pita to start - person coming along after has it easyish [19:47] we have the process ready in docs [19:47] do we? [19:47] yeah, of course :D [19:47] never seen it [19:47] we *are* exporting to html and pdf from docbook [19:48] i mean the technical process :P [19:48] so there's not too much to do when starting [19:48] except a lot of writing... [19:48] oic - thought you meant Processes :D [19:48] nnnoope :D [19:48] should try to be less ambiguous [19:49] join the club ... [19:49] well I can start writing the QA stuff for sure [19:49] mh [19:50] if doing that makes sense for later - then *shrug* [19:51] well, good documentation *always* makes sense [19:51] maybe no reason to convert it to docbook markup yet [19:51] not quite what I meant :) [19:51] lol [19:51] * knome reads ambiguously too [19:51] ha ha [19:52] I'll do this anyway, practice [19:52] yep, i won't mind [20:02] flocculant: Yeah this doesn't make sense at all. [20:03] well I stand no chance at all if you say that :p [20:04] passwordless_sudo is returning 1, which in theory should make it try to attempt a password dialog box, but alas it doesn't. [20:12] Logic here doesn't seem to be quite right... [20:12] Anywho, not my problem, right? :D [20:14] totally your problem [20:14] at least you seem to be bothered by it much more than i am... [20:14] :P [20:15] :d [20:15] I'll report this now that it's confirmed [20:15] just to make bluesabre's evening [20:16] knome: I was surprised to see catfish even installed. :P [20:16] apport (2.19.1-0ubuntu3) wily; urgency=medium [20:16] * Disable Launchpad crash upload for final Ubuntu 15.10. [20:16] Hmm. [20:17] flocculant: But, did you run catfish -v soon after using `sudo`? [20:17] Unit193: mmm [20:17] The exit status of `sudo -n true` is always returning 1, but return p.exitstatus == 1 isn't right. :D [20:18] possible [20:19] given where we are - wonder if we'll get this in [20:19] there is at least a workround - either use sudo somewhere or sudo updatedb [20:21] oh - perhaps as drc said this is the same bug [20:21] flocculant, this time is totally designed for getting bug fixes like this in :) [20:22] Unit193: are you saying it crashes if sudo used recently or it works if sudo used recently? [20:22] knome: if it gets fixed in the next day [20:23] I'd rather release with it than spend hours smoketesting isos on my own on Thursday again [20:24] currently both catfish and -v are wanting password [20:24] Unit193: nvm - answered myself :) [20:25] brb [20:26] back [20:28] yyep [20:29] confusing myself now [20:29] :D [20:30] so it seems that if catfish is the first thing to want sudo it works [20:30] but if you've used it prior to catfish it fails [20:31] Unit193: does that sum up what you've seen? [20:37] bug 1507765 [20:37] bug 1507765 in catfish (Ubuntu) "Catfish fails to update database" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507765 [20:38] Unit193: if you've data to add to the bug description from what you found above - that'd be good :) [20:47] "Exit status of 'true' was '1'" do you see a problem here? :P [20:47] nope [20:48] 'true' returning '1', means the program that always exits without any errors exited "with an error" [20:48] so add it to the bug then [20:54] night all [20:58] Anywho, yeah I'm done playing around in the souce there. [20:58] souce? sauce? [21:05] knome: Why aren't you off pinging the right people already!? :P [23:57] hey all [23:57] hey sean [23:58] * bluesabre needs to check the sudo/true/catfish output again it seems [23:59] Very.