[05:59] <dholbach> good morning
[12:44] <mcphail> What version of Mir is running on OTA-7 devices?
[12:52] <popey> 0.16 i think mcphail
[12:52] <popey> thats what the version of all the *mir* packages is on mine
[13:33] <sverzegnassi> popey, JMulholland: hi, this follows up our discussion on desktop headers we had during the last meeting. I've played a bit with the UITK 1.3 and tried to give a "decent" form to my proposal: https://imgur.com/a/tPBzR
[13:34] <sverzegnassi> the header caption has been moved into the title bar, and the zoom selector into the default head state
[13:34] <popey> looks like a gtk app now :)
[13:36] <popey> sverzegnassi: i like it.
[14:09] <sverzegnassi> popey, that was the idea :P I'm already using it on desktop for studying and this way it looks familiar to anyone uses current Ubuntu desktop apps imho
[14:59] <snizzo> is there a preprocessor flag for recognizing if app is running on ubuntu touch or desktop pc?
[14:59] <snizzo> like #if defined(Q_OS_ANDROID) for android
[15:25] <jnxd> any icon designers here? After a recent post, and templates, I tried my hand at it, and here's the result yet: http://imgur.com/qrxF79x. Can anyone suggest (or make) a good paintbrush art that'd fit with the theme?
[15:45] <Kivi> Elleo, ping
[15:46] <Elleo> Kivi: pong?
[15:51] <Kivi> Elleo, HEY!
[15:51] <tathhu> :D
[15:51] <tathhu> <3
[15:52] <Kivi> Elleo, I want to make colemak, and get it into ubuntu phone. popey said to go bother you incessantly until you tell me how to do this.
[15:52] <Elleo> heh
[15:53] <Kivi> Elleo, is there a good api for doing this? Are you using the old templates from linux to generate keyboard layouts?
[15:53] <Kivi> or do I have to make a qml file?
[15:54] <Elleo> Kivi: it's a bit of a tricky one at the moment, basically the current system uses QML layouts; but we have a branch that shifts to much simpler json layouts
[15:54] <Elleo> Kivi: which also opens the door for us to provide keyboard layouts as click packages, which might be the best option for something like a colemak layout
[15:55] <Kivi> Elleo, best option is to do what ubuntu does, and provide it by default imho.
[15:55] <Elleo> Kivi: however I'm not sure when we're likely to land those changes, as they're part of a big change to the whole word engine system (to provide better predictions), but I haven't had much time available to work on keyboard stuff recently
[15:56] <Kivi> Elleo, anyway; so this isn't done through click packages?
[15:56] <Elleo> Kivi: not currently, at the moment all the keyboard layouts are deb packages included as part of the system image
[15:56] <Kivi> Elleo, ah okay.
[15:57] <Elleo> Kivi: but we want to move away from that in the future, as it's not great for space usage as we get more and more layouts
[15:57] <Elleo> Kivi: (as each layout also then has the relevant dictionaries, prediction data, etc. for its language)
[15:57] <Elleo> Kivi: so we'll be shifting to having layouts available via click instead
[15:57] <Kivi> hmmmm interesting.
[15:58] <Elleo> Kivi: but I'm not sure what the timeframe for that is likely to be, as most of my time is currently taken up with download manager and browser stuff
[15:58] <Kivi> Elleo, is it just one deb with all the layouts, or one deb per layout?
[15:58] <Elleo> Kivi: one deb per layout
[15:59] <Kivi> Elleo, before I go then, can you direct me to the qwerty english deb?
[15:59] <Elleo> Kivi: if you wanted something immediate you could create a branch that has colemak debs, but I can't guarantee it'd be accepted into the system image by default and the qml layouts are a bit of a pain
[15:59] <Kivi> Elleo, yeah they are a pain. Funny enough; I made a qml layout before though.
[16:00] <Elleo> Kivi: plugins/en in the ubuntu-keyboard source
[16:00] <Elleo> Kivi: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-keyboard/trunk/files/head:/plugins/en/
[16:00] <Kivi> Elleo, well do; thanks
[16:00]  * Kivi wonders if colemak is good for thumbs...
[16:01] <popey> thanks Elleo
[16:02] <Elleo> popey: no worries :)
[16:57] <bingoR> Hey guys, I'm trying to run HTML5 apps from a device with inspector enabled so I can learn the APIs. Any ideas? I'm currently trying with -- ubuntu-html5-app-launcher --www=/opt/click.ubuntu.com/test3.bingor/current/www/ --inspector -- but it is telling me that both arguments are deprecated.
[16:59] <bingoR> If that is the right way of debugging a html5 running on a device, could you tell me where to get the sources to ubuntu-html5-app-launcher so I can check for the right params?
[21:37] <mhall119> bzoltan_: is there a PPA with Qt 5.5 in it yet?
[21:39] <mhall119> Mirv: ^^ same question