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[04:16] <arrrghhh> hello all.  just installed mythtv again, and I'm having an issue with the service - the program says start/running when I start it from the service, but it immediately stops.  What logs can I look at?  /var/log/messages doesn't have anything, and /var/log/mythtv doesn't have any logs for the backend
[04:18] <arrrghhh> oh there's a /var/log/upstart folder... hm
[04:19] <arrrghhh> that was the ticket
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[07:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:33] <rbasak> kirkland: do you think bug 1505473 needs an SRU to Trusty?
[10:33] <ubottu> bug 1505473 in pollen (Ubuntu Trusty) "pollen does not start on boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505473
[13:03] <kirkland> rbasak: I don't think so
[13:03] <kirkland> rbasak: as far as I'm aware, there's only one pollen server in production in the world, and they use the ppa:trusty/ppa :-)
[13:04] <kirkland> rbasak: so I'd say don't worry about it unless canonical IS asks you to
[13:17] <rbasak> kirkland: ah OK, thanks. I got confused between pollen and pollinate.
[13:24] <przemytriel> Hello guys any monitoring tool for nagios? like nagstamon?
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[13:58] <bekks> przemytriel: NAgios IS the monitoring tool :P
[14:08] <rbasak> Who watches the watchers? :-)
[14:09] <bekks> The congress ;)
[14:26] <lordievader> Your users?
[14:28] <przemytriel> bekks:  :)
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[17:32] <arrrghhh> Hello all.  Seem to be having a logging issue, my auth.log is 0b, my syslog is 0b, kern.log 0b... found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/1059854 and tried changing the rsyslog line from reload to restart, didn't seem to help
[17:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 940030 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1059854 rsyslog stops working after logrotate until restarted" [Critical,Confirmed]
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[18:05] <lordievader> Are you using 15.04?
[18:07] <arrrghhh> lordievader, 14.04.3
[18:09] <lordievader> Hmm, rsyslog is configured to output logs to there?
[18:10] <lordievader> Comment #9 on the bug report doesn't work for you?
[18:10] <arrrghhh> and tried changing the rsyslog line from reload to restart, didn't seem to help
[18:11] <arrrghhh> and yes looking at 50-default.conf in /etc/rsyslog.d/ seems to be correct
[18:15] <arrrghhh> lordievader, evidently I don't look at my logs frequently haha.  Seems this issue started around August 10 2014, which I believe is around when I upgraded to 14.04 (it was running 12.04)
[18:15] <lordievader> arrrghhh: bug 940030 reports a different workaround.
[18:15] <ubottu> bug 940030 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "rsyslog stops working after logrotate until restarted" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/940030
[18:17] <arrrghhh> lordievader, all of these bugs seem to indicate a reboot of the system would resolve it
[18:17] <arrrghhh> I just rebooted to resolve an issue with mythtv logs, and I'm still not getting the auth.log/kern.log/syslog/etc
[18:18] <arrrghhh> just changed that tho, restarted rsyslog and still nothing
[18:18] <arrrghhh> files have not been touched
[18:18] <lordievader> arrrghhh: No, they suggest a restart of the rsyslog service.
[18:19] <arrrghhh> that does not work either... I've restarted rsyslog a few times now.  Everytime I adjust that config file
[18:19] <arrrghhh> hm.  looking at permissions this might be the issue... root/root is the owner
[18:20] <arrrghhh> dmesg is root/adm
[18:20] <lordievader> arrrghhh: Run rsyslog manually instead of as a daemon.
[18:21] <arrrghhh> lordievader, sudo rsyslogd?
[18:22] <lordievader> Look in the upstart file, I have no idea.
[18:25] <arrrghhh> lordievader, it still runs as a daemon...
[18:26] <lordievader> arrrghhh: How did you start it?
[18:27] <arrrghhh> sudo rsyslogd
[18:28] <arrrghhh> start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON -- $RSYSLOGD_OPTIONS
[18:28] <arrrghhh> $DAEMON = /usr/sbin/rsyslogd
[18:30] <lordievader> arrrghhh: Check the manpage of rsyslogd.
[19:06] <bittin> https://air.mozilla.org/release-engineering-at-facebook/
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[21:27] <arrrghhh> so I ran rsyslogd -d which spat a ton of info into the console... but I'm not seeing any errors
[21:27] <arrrghhh> it doesn't seem to run continuously tho... I'm not sure if that's normal or not
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[21:53] <arrrghhh> so I'm still not getting anything in auth.log, syslog etc...