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diddledanI want moar monitors00:49
diddledanit'ld be nice if I could get one of my two 24inches fixed (it died - presumably psu)00:50
mappsargh05:03
mappswhat the hell is wrong with me05:04
mappswiped out my entire betfair balance in one day - £757605:04
mappsi cant seem to learn05:04
zmoylan-pi1 legged horse at 1000-1 looked too good to pass up?05:11
diddledanyeek05:13
mappsno06:05
mappsi bet  unders a lot like a fool:)06:05
mappsbeing a negative person06:05
MooDoomorning all06:54
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:14
MooDoomorning07:17
brobostigonmorning MooDoo07:19
MooDoohowdy, are you well brobostigon ?07:21
brobostigonother than my eczema, yes.07:21
davmor2Morning all08:05
brobostigonmorning davmor208:06
foobarrysomebody sent me an amazon.com gift card. turns out you can't redeem on amazon.co,uk08:23
bashrc:)08:25
davmor2foobarry: wompwompwomp.com08:25
foobarrywill probably buy kindle books08:26
davmor2foobarry: but it is not pointing to your account so you can't access it right?  Or can you?08:27
foobarryi entered the code on co.uk and it didn't work08:27
foobarryits a lot shorter than uk ones08:27
foobarryentered on .com and it worked08:27
foobarryits not much munneh08:27
foobarryjust a token amount for a tech survey i filled in , $508:27
davmor2foobarry: try ringing the uk number and explain the problem08:28
foobarrymeh, for that amount, its not worth it, i can buy electronic stuff08:28
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Brandied Fruit Day! 😃  🍒09:03
davmor2JamesTait: you made me go there and now this will be stuck with you for the rest of the day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tou8-Cz8is09:08
* zmoylan-pi waits for know your vegtable day...09:08
davmor2JamesTait: and what is worse now you'll be think about Beetlejuice all day too :D09:10
zmoylan-pibeetlejuice?09:12
* zmoylan-pi sets trap....09:12
davmor2zmoylan-pi: yes but you have to say it three times :P09:15
zmoylan-pisay what?09:15
davmor2zmoylan-pi: what?09:15
JamesTaitBetelgeuse?09:16
zmoylan-pii did like when it was done on community... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19FMU3M7Jtk09:16
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:26
bigcalm!isitoutyet09:26
lubotu3Not yet!09:26
bigcalmOh, it got fixed09:26
davmor2bigcalm: I so gonna slap you09:26
bigcalm:D09:27
MooDooI'll get the popcorn09:27
bigcalmI'll not be running it on any of my systems, but I do like teasing Canonical employees09:28
diddledanoh, it's not out yet?!09:29
bigcalmSeeding ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-i386.iso has a ratio of 571. popey: I take it that you'll be releasing a 5.10 version later09:29
davmor2bigcalm: not likely 15.10 maybe09:30
bashrcwhen is 15.10 due out?09:30
diddledanbashrc thursday I think09:30
davmor2bashrc: Thursday09:30
bigcalmdavmor2: heh :P09:30
zmoylan-pii never could get the hang of thursdays...09:35
bigcalmLets hope that it's not a lunch time release then09:36
diddledanzmoylan-pi, it's too close to friday to get you excited for the weekend but annoyed that it's not friday09:36
davmor2zmoylan-pi: if things go catastrophically wrong for a certain set of hardware then you have friday for a respin, If friday was release day then there would be no fixes till Monday leaving people without computers for the whole weekend09:38
diddledandavmor2, are you saying that the release architects aren't committed enough to work through the weekend?!09:39
popey correct09:39
popeyThey work hard enough during the week.09:39
zmoylan-pii spent a few saturdays onsite fixing things when someone demanded the big install be done on friday...09:39
diddledanlol09:39
popeyNo reason to actively force them to work on the weekend09:39
davmor2diddledan: up till Thursday the guys will be online longer than I am09:40
diddledanok, I'll give a bit of leeway then :-p09:40
bigcalmSooooooo - letsencrypt.org - yay/nay?09:47
popeyDecided I needed loud music. Put my headphones on, forgot to start music player. Been sat here for an hour with my headphones on in silence.09:51
diddledanhaha09:52
diddledanthat's impressive fail09:52
diddledanit's the kind of thing I do09:52
zmoylan-piif it stopped people walking up and asking questions distracting you they worked :-)09:53
diddledan:-)09:53
zmoylan-piif i were world dictator my first act would be to allow you to break an ibm model m keyboard over someone who asked someone coding what time is it?/what are thet doing? :-P09:55
davmor2popey: D'oh!!!!09:57
bigcalmzmoylan-pi: you sound like our junior dev :|10:01
zmoylan-pii had a boss who would insist on asking what i was working on... multiple times a day...10:01
TwistedLucidityzmoylan-pi: Like in "Fawlty Towers"; "Have you hung the picture yet?"10:04
TwistedLuciditypopey: Could be worse. The number of times I have turned up the volume on my mobile (no headphone, using BT to car radio). Forgotten. Then plugged headphones in and nearly defeaned myself!10:05
TwistedLucidityI wish Android had two volumes (headphones and none).10:06
zmoylan-piget headphones with their own volume and set it low?10:06
popeyI once had my volume turned up high on the train, couldn't hear it, turned out the headphones weren't plugged in. Everyone on the train was so polite!10:06
zmoylan-pii underwent an mri and the person prior to me was deaf, i couldn't hear for hours afterwards...10:07
TwistedLucidityI brought ear plugs. Even so...eeeee...ka-thug...ka-thug...ka-thung...eeee...oooo....ka-thug....10:08
TwistedLucidityBeing able to see your insides is cool though10:08
* zmoylan-pi has pics of wonky hip pre op and terminator hip post op... :-)10:10
diddledanooh, share!10:10
TwistedLucidityBecause of the position I had to be in for my MRI, I needed help getting up afterwards. "We're done, you OK?" "Yeah, OK". "Err...we are done." "I know, but I can't move...."10:10
diddledanI wanna terminator hip10:10
diddledanto be fair, I want terminator anything10:11
TwistedLucidityYou probably don't. Which is why they delay such things for as long as poss.10:11
TwistedLucidityIn the future it will be nanotech delivery polymorhpic stem cells. <- I wish10:11
zmoylan-pii don't put those pics online for complicated reasons10:11
TwistedLucidityThe surgeon stitch "<name> woz 'ere" into your side?10:12
zmoylan-pithey delay them also as you can only get 2 hips as the 2nd shortens the leg as the first artifical hip is removed and there's no room for a 3rd replacement10:13
diddledanzmoylan-pi, worried about letting the future skynet know that you're bionic?10:13
zmoylan-pinah, i can kill a terminator by hitting about the head with my nokia... :-)10:14
diddledanwhat about the model-m keyboar?10:14
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zmoylan-pithe assault rifle of the developer corp... :-)10:14
=== Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti
foobarrydoes anyone keep a key in a key safe outside their house?10:59
zmoylan-pii think the current best practice is to give a spare key to a neighbour or porn buddy11:00
foobarryi prefer than idea (neighbour) but wifey is pushing for key safe11:01
foobarrybecause we have young kids11:01
zmoylan-pihttp://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80985380/ porn buddies11:01
diddledanfoobarry, I really need one of those buddies :-p11:01
foobarryand getting locked out is higher risk and more likelu11:01
diddledanwait, ebaumsworld still exists?!11:02
diddledanI remember watching videos on there back around the turn of the century11:02
zmoylan-piit always seems to be the only place i can find porn buddies when it comes up...11:02
foobarrywhat are they?11:02
foobarrynot clicking :D11:02
zmoylan-pia porn buddy is someone who has your house key who will in event of accident remove the porn from your house before your next of kin find it11:03
diddledanbasically the person who's seen you at your worst who you don't mind discovering your kinks while they clean the evidence before your family get there :-p11:04
foobarryah ok. not applicable11:04
zmoylan-pibut they have a key and will get it to you in case11:05
popeymy mum and wifes mum have keys to our place11:05
popeyno way I'd leave keys out11:05
foobarrythe issue is that the neighbour is probably out11:05
zmoylan-pithe hidey places used for keys are probably well recognised by burgalars11:05
popeyand the kids are never in a position where they need to get into the house without one of us11:05
foobarryalthough we have some elderly ones who are rarely out11:05
diddledanmy dad has my spare key11:05
foobarryi do agree with you guys11:06
diddledanpopey, yet11:06
popeyfor some years yet11:06
diddledanpopey, wait till they start going out on the binge :-p11:06
popeythey are 9 and 1211:06
popeyI will stay up :)11:06
popeyIn fact I'll almost certainly have to go and get them11:07
diddledanlol. that's proper parenting! :-)11:07
popeyDadCabs11:07
foobarrykids get their own keys innit11:07
foobarryfrom 14+ or whatever11:07
bigcalmpopey: 12?! Oh how time flies11:07
popeyyeah!11:07
diddledandad's taxi ftw11:07
popeyHer 12th last month.11:07
diddledanI still use the parental minicab firm :-p11:07
popeyI'm trying to think under what circumstances Sophie would be coming home alone...11:09
popeynot often, but maybe in a few years11:09
popeyShe goes to school where wifey works, so gets a lift in/out with her11:09
foobarrynice11:10
foobarryi went to school where my dad was teacher11:10
zmoylan-pii still have the house key i was given aged 6 for when i got home from school alone11:10
foobarryis that allowed11:10
foobarryhome alone at 6?11:10
zmoylan-piin the 70s yeah11:10
foobarryi thought in the 70s we didn't need keys because the doors were open anyway11:11
foobarrybut the gypsies might kidnap you11:11
davmor2popey: you need to practice sharpening a knives in the doorway then she is getting to boyfriend age11:11
zmoylan-pinot in my town, ferry port, lots of coming and going of stangers11:11
foobarryboyfriend age is 30 right?11:11
popeyor indeed girlfriend11:12
popeyor whatevert11:12
foobarryafter 12 years of vetting11:12
popey-t11:12
davmor2foobarry: no when you are dead and buried and can't say no anymore11:12
popeyShe's at an all girls school, so this is less likely :)11:12
davmor2popey: they find a way trust me11:12
foobarrypopey has it all sorted11:12
popeyback in the dungeon, sophie!11:13
foobarryalthough the girls school near me had most teeange preggers11:13
foobarrybut it was a convent school11:13
zmoylan-picatholic school girl uniform defeats intent of all girls school to keep girls out of trouble11:13
popeynot the intent11:14
popeythe intent (in ours) is for the girls not to get distracted by boys11:14
popeywhich has worked11:14
zmoylan-pididn't work with my 3 sisters11:15
popeybut the school is going co-ed, which is convenient because sophie will be in the all-girls bit, and sam will get to be co-ed11:15
foobarryhandy11:15
popeyyeah, kinda stuck there now11:15
popeyhard to leave with wifey working there11:15
foobarrymaybe separated by a tall fence11:15
foobarryor watchtowers11:15
popeyhah11:16
davmor2foobarry: but what will jobo magazines do?11:17
popeyfoobarry: you considering a key press thing with a code?11:19
foobarryyes popey p11:19
popeyWhen we went on holiday to portugal the house had one of those11:19
foobarryholiday homes seem to use them a lot11:19
popeybut the house also had an alarm, so standing there guessing the number would mean you could get in, but you wouldn't be able to do much till you disabled the alarm11:20
popeyI guess you could take the key away and make a copy then put it back11:20
popeycan the kids not just have their own key?11:20
foobarryi was thinking of putting the standard key but not the chubb11:20
foobarrythis is because wifey getting locked out11:20
foobarryforgetting to take keys on school run/walk11:20
foobarrythis would allow her to get back in11:21
foobarryaccidental lockout11:21
foobarrybut if we leave the house normally the chubb always gets locked11:21
foobarrya burglar would need the chubb too11:21
foobarrystill i'm uncomfortable about it11:21
popeyas a kid I sometimes smashed all the crisps in a bag up before opening it11:30
popeyit was quite satisfying11:30
popeybut when you open the bag you realise what a small volume of crisps it contains11:31
MooDoo:)11:59
foobarryas a kid i got fed up of scroungers in teh playground so i  took a bag of "skips" to school that was actually identical looking polystyrene packaging in a skips packet12:00
popeyhah12:01
foobarryusually i'd have a queue of kids asking for monster munch12:01
foobarrylet 5 kids have a chuink and there's only 2 for yourself12:01
Myrttias a Finn who ate the same, hot, free school lunch as everyone else in school, I can't help but to think that giving a kid crisps in the lunch box is wrong12:01
foobarryi only got to eat 2 so its ok Myrtti12:02
Myrttialbeit not quite as wrong as the kebab shop that used to sell a kiddy meal of chips and smiley faces and soda12:02
foobarryand i'm still underweight after all these years12:02
Myrttifoobarry: 2 a week, 2 a month?12:03
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foobarry2 crisps a day after the scroungers had nabbed them12:03
foobarrymy son gets a hot meal this year and last year12:04
foobarrybut he's 612:04
foobarryit stops after that12:05
foobarryi'd be tempted to pay though if the price is ok and he eats it all12:05
foobarryjust realised i have the same meal i had when i was 7 even now. sandwich, crisps, apple and a ribena12:05
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m0nkey__yerp.12:57
diddledanderp12:58
zmoylan-pilarp12:58
diddledanparp?12:58
m0nkey__diddledan: were you asking about the unifi stuff i have yesterday?13:07
diddledanm0nkey_, I think it was ali who wanted to know?13:07
foobarrycoming soon, 4od on chromcast \o/13:20
bigcalmOo, that'll please my wife13:23
foobarryexcept for the 10 mins of ads vs 20 mins of programme13:24
foobarrymakes me feel dirty13:25
bigcalmTV isn't free13:25
jpdsfoobarry: Too bad chromecast is so flaky13:27
SuperMattis it really?13:27
SuperMattI was thinking of getting one13:27
jpdsSuperMatt: Oh yes13:27
jpdsSuperMatt: It'll disappear from the phone midway through something13:28
jpdsSuperMatt: And you sometimes have to disconnect from wifi and reconnect to make it come back13:28
bigcalmI have had no problems with my chromecast13:29
bigcalmJust make sure both your chromecast and your phone have a good wifi signal13:29
SuperMattAh, I was thinking of casting from my laptop to the screen13:30
jpdsbigcalm: I'm in the same room as the wifi ap13:30
bigcalmI tend to use mine for youtube13:32
bigcalmSo the mobile is controlling rather than casting13:32
popeyyeah, not had any issues with chromecast here13:35
foobarryi have problems casting from a device and the device goes to sleep and then i can't regain control13:44
foobarryso then i can't pause any more13:45
foobarrythe other day i got a film on amazon prime, then realised they won't let me chrome it13:45
foobarrykind of killed the mood to find a vga lead and speakers13:45
popeymost devices I have used have controls on the lock screen13:55
popeyso you dont need to unlock to pause13:56
popeycertainly does with youtube and netflix13:56
popeyamazon prime not working is intentional breakage from amazon, not chromecast or googles fault13:56
foobarryyep14:10
foobarrybut an oversight on my part, i just assumed without thinking14:10
davmor2yeah they want you to use fire stick I guess14:14
AzelphurHmm, every time I unlock my computer I get "Authentication is required to change your own user data" o.O14:16
bigcalmdavmor2: they very much want you to use the firestick and prime. Amazon no longer sell the chromecast14:18
davmor2bigcalm: indeed, you'd think that the monopolies commission would have something to say about that though right14:22
* bigcalm shrugs14:24
foobarryjust like kindle i guess14:30
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE16:09
diddledanOMGEE16:09
* popey watches for the 10th time16:10
tripleclonesI'm finding this one a bit too busy16:14
diddledanit got me excited16:15
tripleclonesalthough have my tickets booked for a 00:01hrs viewing on 17th :)16:15
diddledanlol16:15
diddledannice16:15
tripleclonesI'm very excited about it16:15
diddledanI'm wondering if I'll recognise greenham common when I watch it16:16
diddledan(that's just round the corner from me)16:16
tripleclonesjust to be lazy, when 15.10 released?16:17
diddledanthursday16:17
tripleclonescheers16:18
tripleclonesis greenham common where the x-wing was spotted by a pilot?16:19
diddledanthere was a minellium falcon there at one point, and several x-wings16:20
foobarry!isitoutyet16:53
lubotu3Not yet!16:53
foobarryits my 10th anniversary next week16:55
zmoylan-pi!isitoutyet16:55
lubotu3Not yet!16:55
foobarryso it must be also my 10th anniversary of using ubuntu16:55
zmoylan-pii found a dvd covercase from linux mag with ubuntu on it.  not sure i installed it though16:56
bashrcI first started using ubuntu in 200616:57
diddledan!isitoutyet17:00
lubotu3Not yet!17:00
diddledan:-p17:00
diddledanhurry up :-o17:00
diddledanteehee17:00
* diddledan smirks17:00
davmor2man I had joined LP and reported bug longer than bashrc has been a user ;)17:02
foobarryMember since:17:08
foobarry2006-05-2017:08
foobarryhmm took me a while before getting LP17:08
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zmoylan-pihttp://istodaythedaymartymcflyarriveswhenhetravelstothefuture.com/17:12
foobarrymy 2yr old just outed my missis17:13
foobarry"watched star wars on mummy phone at lunch daddy"17:13
MyrttiI hate hate haaaaatttteee hate that my laptop's wifi doesn't survive suspend anymore, I have to re-enable wifi from network manager almost every time I return from suspend17:17
daftykinshow wude17:18
daftykinswhat change prompted that, wily upgrade or new kernel...?17:18
Myrttiupgrade, tried an older one and I think it still had the same problem, and now the newer kernels have it still17:19
MyrttiI'm at the short end of the stick now17:19
daftykins15.04?17:19
Myrttiyeah17:19
zmoylan-pimy latest 15.04 install on a lenovo doesn't do wifi or bt.  and i cann't be buggered to fix it tbh :-)17:20
daftykinshahaha17:20
daftykinssounds like one of the usual Lenovo quirks17:21
daftykinswind direction must be south-east during installation for wifi to work17:21
daftykinsor actually TJ told me about the whole ACPI OSI thing a bit ago, that's always worth a go :D17:21
zmoylan-piit'll either start working when i upgrade or it won't. i see it as a reminder not to buy lenovo next time...17:21
zmoylan-piit's kinda what i do when i have a hard drive fail.  i avoid that companies hardware for a few generations...17:22
daftykinsyou'd be out of companies the way HDDs work nowadays :>17:23
daftykinsor don't work, as the case seems to be17:23
daftykinsthankfully we'll all be on pure SSD soon enough :D17:23
zmoylan-piunless the hard drive failed due to bouncing off the floor in a freak yachting accident17:23
zmoylan-pithere's always another brand to go to when you drop 1-2 brands17:24
zmoylan-piand i'll stick with hdd as i don't trust ssd yet17:24
daftykins'tis a bit early, but i'm confident with 3D NAND17:25
zmoylan-piit's good for some, for those that want raw performance, solid state no moving parts, but not a priority for me17:25
daftykinsyou can't go back once you try it :D17:31
zmoylan-pifor the first few years of ssd's it didn't take much to find horror stories of a badly configured distro wearing out the ssd, now it's just a capacity/price thing17:46
zmoylan-pii'd risk a chromebook, if it was a) right spec 4gb ram, >=64gb ssd, b) had page up/down keys c) could install linux17:48
daftykinsmmm, i think things should be bought that work rather than require modding :>17:48
zmoylan-piin that case i'd buy nothing :-)17:49
zmoylan-pii have zero interest/trust in chromeos.17:49
zmoylan-pibut it's closest thing to a netbook been sold these days17:49
zmoylan-pithe new ms surface book looks nice but has same problem as ms tablets in 90s.  just too expensive17:51
davmor2zmoylan-pi: get an xps 1317:52
daftykinsthe 9350 looks so nice :)17:52
zmoylan-pimy experience of dells is quite warped, i've only ever seen them after every other tech support person has given up on them... :-)17:53
davmor2zmoylan-pi: pfff18:13
AzelphurIs there any way to tell APT to stop being stupid and install the package, when the package depends on libx264-142 but the package has been renamed to libx264-14619:13
daftykinso0 got a pastebin of the situation?19:14
foobarrylooking at some old open bugs19:15
foobarrygwibber lol19:15
foobarrythe gwibber dev went over to apple. just checked his witter and he spendshis time bitching about them now19:21
daftykins:D19:21
Myrttioh, who?19:27
directhexAzelphur: it's not being stupid, the lib package's contents have been changed as they are no longer compatible19:28
Azelphurdirecthex: oh, so it can't use 142?19:28
directhexAzelphur: it's a soname bump - libx264.so.142 is not in libx264-14619:29
directhexand the app is linked against libx264.so.142 not libx264.so.14619:30
directhexthe good news is the packages are parallel-installable, you can just grab a .deb from an older release19:30
foobarryrplptl~.19:31
foobarryMyrtti: https://twitter.com/segphault19:32
foobarryi tihnk he wrote for ars technica back in the day19:32
Azelphurdirecthex: fun, guess I could do that19:32
directhexyou bump SONAME when you break backward compatibility in a lib19:33
directhexmultimedia libs are the worst for it19:33
foobarryhas anyone made the metal earth star wars kits?19:46
foobarrye,g, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Metal-Earth-Millennium-Falcon-Model/dp/B00GY8S8MO/ref=pd_sim_21_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0FEKXZKFBR9TG679MC6S&dpID=51B34bciNSL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_19:46
foobarryugh19:46
foobarryhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Metal-Earth-Millennium-Falcon-Model/dp/B00GY8S8MO19:47
Myrttifoobarry: I didn't think he went for Apple, xamarin I knew about19:58
foobarryi meant he switched his OS of choice :)20:23
daftykinsonce they go OS X there's no help ;)20:27
* diddledan pokes it20:27
diddledanI'm thinking I might upgrade to 15.10 before d-day20:36
Myrttioh, that20:36
daftykinsdiddledan: you devil!20:36
diddledandaftykins, at least my drives are all working. don't you dare touch them!20:36
daftykinshey er, why don't you run a little smartctl for me...20:37
diddledannever!20:37
diddledanout of sight, out of mind!20:37
daftykins:)20:37
diddledanif I can't see it, then it didn't happen20:37
diddledanlike the bugblatter beast of traal20:37
diddledanspeaking of which, how did douglas adams invent so many obvious things that nobody ever thought of before?!20:38
diddledanI swear he was a savant20:39
daftykinsgenius level20:39
diddledanachievement unlocked: 4220:39
foobarrybecause he invented a genre pretty much20:42
foobarryi re-read all his books recently20:43
foobarrythey go downhill a lot quite quickly20:43
diddledanwhat? the clocks change this week?!20:43
diddledanomg, the end of days!20:43
foobarryand really tedious and difficult sections to follow20:43
daftykinsbest part is the US doesn't change for another few days, so the Atlantic will shrink by an hour20:45
diddledanyey for relativity20:45
diddledan(that does mean that britain is going to be moving faster than the americas, right?)20:46
diddledanI can science, me!20:46
diddledanlook at me sciencing!20:47
zmoylan-pihuzzah, mac users are now been called about problems with their mac \o/ :-) http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/10/support-scams-that-plagued-windows-users-for-years-now-target-mac-customers/20:48
daftykins8D20:48
zmoylan-pinext up... linux.... :-D20:48
diddledanweel aah reckon y'all up thar in loonicks land ain't never fallen foul a any scams20:52
diddledan(that's what the tech support people sound like, right?)20:53
zmoylan-piand a seperate item says 15 people got their ubuntu phone infected with malware...20:54
diddledan\o/20:54
diddledanthis may truly be the year of household linux!20:54
diddledanyou know you've arrived when you get virused20:54
diddledan(cue innapropriate reference to STIs)20:55
zmoylan-pia pox on all their oses :-P20:55
daftykinswell if it was just that bad app, all it did was change a boot screen20:56
daftykinsso just the usual media clickbait and scaremongering20:56
diddledanat least those with dumbphones don't have to worry about the zombie apocalypse20:56
diddledandaftykins, omg, an image?20:57
daftykinsikr!20:57
diddledandastardly shenanigans!20:57
zmoylan-pidumbphones ftw \o/20:57
* zmoylan-pi bangs 2 nokias together to make fire after the apocolypse20:58
diddledanzmoylan-pi, when you disappear folk with a rug and a river, do you weigh the body down with nokias?20:58
zmoylan-piand waste a nokia?!20:59
diddledanpoint.20:59
* diddledan misses his 711020:59
zmoylan-piplenty of freebie winphones out there for that...20:59
diddledanI think I still remember the number of my 7110's contract20:59
diddledan0779966009720:59
diddledanI do!20:59
diddledanwow20:59
zmoylan-piyou can pick up ancient nokias for <€5021:00
diddledanthat was an awesome number21:00
diddledanit was on one2one (remember those guys?!)21:00
MyrttiI just remember my ICQ number21:00
diddledanI think I still know my ICQ, too, Myrtti21:01
daftykinsdiddledan: let's call it!21:01
diddledanlol21:02
diddledanI wonder if it's still in use21:02
daftykinsi got really confused a bit ago when an ex turned up on whatsapp, but it turned out it was just her prior temporary UK number which someone came up as when they took over the same #21:02
daftykins:D21:02
diddledanlol21:03
diddledanhah, this page lists it as at one time belonging to someone: http://ukphonebook.mobi/57/90/luke-mitchel.php21:04
daftykinsaww just had someone check their disk and it's fine ;)21:04
diddledannamely one "Barker Thaddeus" of St. Julians , Newport21:04
daftykinsi think you should call yourself that21:05
diddledanlol21:05
daftykinsaww yeah old RAID is 98% rebuilt21:06
daftykinsi'm amazed the disks haven't conked out yet21:06
diddledan\o/21:06
daftykinsi got bored enough to plug them in21:06
daftykins6 x 1TB doing nothing21:06
diddledanI think raid arrays should have moar blinken flashen21:06
daftykinsoh you can totally trick out a true hardware RAID card ;)21:07
daftykinsit's got headers for LEDs!21:07
diddledanI used to love pulling out a hotswap disk kfrom an active raid and then putting it back to watch the lightshow21:07
daftykinsthat stress is pretty bad :(21:08
diddledan"the cloud" is ruining systems administration21:08
popey3821:26
zmoylan-pi4221:28
diddledan56 - I win!21:28
zmoylan-pino no i had the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything...21:29
daftykinsbut what's the question?21:30
zmoylan-pithe earth is still working on that, but how far it gets with a bunch of phone sanitisers is anyones guess...21:30
popeyAzelphur: when you have 5 mins. my brother needs a new phone, 100 quid or so, camera and ease of getting music on it are important (no subscription service).21:40
popeyAzelphur: he found a motorola razr (intel 1GB ram) and I said "NO!"21:40
Azelphurpopey: is that literally all that is important? really any phone can do that21:40
popeyHe's not a nerd21:41
popeyI want to find the 'best' phone he can get which will last21:41
Azelphurnew or used?21:41
popeypay as you go21:41
popeywell, that's a good question21:41
popeybe nice if it had more than 1GB RAM21:41
Azelphurwell, you can get a Nexus 5 for £100 ballpark, It should in theory fit "will last" since it has 2GB RAM and it's supported by Google for a while longer21:43
Azelphurand then you could put whatever musicy software on it you want21:43
daftykinsunlike my 4 ;_;21:44
popeyyeah, good call21:44
popeyreckon you can get an n5 for 100 quid!?21:44
popeyooh, ebay 115 quid for 16GB Nexus 5!21:45
zmoylan-pi16gb is a little lite for holding music, no?21:46
daftykinsfor a phone with no card slot, yep21:46
popeytrue21:46
Azelphurpopey: indeed, there are lots on eBay, used for <=100, new from 115ish and up21:56

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