[00:01] <RubyDZ> Hi guys, I was having trouble reinstalling Ubuntu earlier today and now I've successfully installed the latest version of Lubuntu, but I have an issue with the WiFi not working. I remember when I had Ubuntu a few years back I had the same problem, except I cannot find a solution for it in lubuntu? I remember there was a patch or something I used to use before ....
[00:01] <RubyDZ> Can anyone help?
[00:09] <roseyspop> have a server setup for plex.  motherboard crashed.  instead of doing a fresh install, i moved the hdd to a different pc.  everything works fine except for networking.  can someone help me out a little bit?
[00:16] <RubyDZ> So I checked out some forums and apparently I need to download the firmware for my wireless driver, but I don't have an Ethernet connection. Is there any way I can do this by downloading the firmware onto a USB instead of connecting to an Ethernet cable?
[00:16] <RubyDZ> Can anyone help please?
[00:18] <CheckYourSix> roseyspop: Does it recognize the adapater at all? And have you apt-get upgrade && apt-get update?
[00:18] <CheckYourSix> RubyDZ: If you have another computer, you can download it to a USB drive and them copy it over...
[00:20] <RubyDZ> CheckYourSix: I'm not sure where to download it from?
[00:20] <CheckYourSix> What kind of wireless adapter?
[00:21] <RubyDZ> Broadcom BCM4312
[00:22] <CheckYourSix> Always Broadcom with the issues.
[00:22] <RubyDZ> I checked with a list I found through the Ubuntu forums and mine is supported
[00:22] <RubyDZ> But I'm not sure where to download the firmware from
[00:22] <CheckYourSix> Did the post have a list of commands to run?
[00:23] <RubyDZ> And also I'm now running Lubuntu, would it be the same firmware package
[00:23] <RubyDZ> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware
[00:23] <RubyDZ> I cross-checked with the list on this link
[00:24] <CheckYourSix> What version of Lubuntu?
[00:24] <RubyDZ> The latest ..
[00:24] <RubyDZ> I just downloaded and installed it
[00:24] <RubyDZ> 15.04 I think ..
[00:25] <RubyDZ> I found this solution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[00:25] <RubyDZ> Would it work for Lubuntu as well?
[00:26] <MannyLNJ> Is there a way to install Thunderbird and move it's mail folders to a USB stick?
[00:27] <CheckYourSix> RubyDZ: Yes it should. Try that link. If not, there might be another way
[00:27] <lxleuser_> Hello
[00:28] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: Yes
[00:28] <lxleuser_> Does anybody knows how to add an update notifier on my lxpanel system tray??
[00:28] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, How?
[00:29] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1060029
[00:29] <Trinity> anyone know of a good tool for batch jpeg/png lossless optimization
[00:30] <lxleuser_> @Trinity try the "trimage" app
[00:31] <CheckYourSix> lxleuser_: Update as in notify that new updates are available for the OS?
[00:31] <RubyDZ> CheckYourSix: so in the link, in step 2, there are three choices, b43legacy, b43 (12.04 Precise Pangolin), and b43 (14.04 Trusty Tahr) ... my driver isn't legacy, so whih of the last two should I choose?
[00:32] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, Thanks. I'll read it over
[00:32] <cafe`guy> in ubuntu software & updates it gives me a list of possible ati drivers X.org, fglrx-updates, and flrx, which one should i use to get 3d acceration in my vmware player windows 7 guest?
[00:33] <CheckYourSix> RubyDZ: Go with the b43 14.04
[00:33] <CheckYourSix> cafe`guy: Did you install VMWare additions?
[00:33] <cafe`guy> additions? tools?
[00:33] <CheckYourSix> Yes.
[00:34] <cafe`guy> not sure lemme check
[00:34] <cafe`guy> yes it has an option to reinstall tools
[00:34] <LINUXART> Any idea of how to add an icon on sytem tray that will show the notifications about any updates?
[00:35] <CheckYourSix> cafe`guy: I haven't needed to bother with 3d acceleration inside a VM, so I don't know which is best
[00:35] <cafe`guy> thing is i have a radean r9 270
[00:35] <RubyDZ> CheckYourSix: OK, regarding step 1, I looked for the b43-fwcutter on my LiveUSB but couldn't find it. I followed the link to download the .deb file but there are 5 or 6 of them for the Vivid Vervet release, which should I pick? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter
[00:35] <cafe`guy> i don't think it's supported
[00:36] <cafe`guy> CheckYourSix, how much of an endevor would it be to swap out the amd card for a gtx?
[00:36] <CheckYourSix> RubyDZ: The Vivid Vervet (current stable release) I guess would be the best one
[00:37] <CheckYourSix> cafe`guy: I'm not sure honestly. My VMs are all servers. I had an ubuntu desktop in a VM just to test a couple things. I've never tried 3D acceleration with it.
[00:38] <cafe`guy> ok thanks CheckYourSix
[00:38] <RubyDZ> CheckYourSix: Yeah, but there are like 5 or 6 .deb files just for that one: b43-fwcutter_019-2_amd64.deb (22.8 KiB) b43-fwcutter_019-2_arm64.deb (22.4 KiB) b43-fwcutter_019-2_armhf.deb (21.5 KiB) b43-fwcutter_019-2_i386.deb (22.5 KiB) b43-fwcutter_019-2_powerpc.deb (22.2 KiB) b43-fwcutter_019-2_ppc64el.deb (24.7 KiB)
[00:38] <CheckYourSix> RubyDZ: What CPU do you have?
[00:39] <CheckYourSix> Actually, I meant which OS - 32 bit or 64 bit?
[00:39] <RubyDZ> Uhhh, it's a Compaq Mini 110, I tried installing a 64-bit version of Ubuntu but it wouldn't boot, so I downloaded the 32-bit version of Lubuntu instead ...
[00:40] <RubyDZ> I think it said something about being a i686 CPU?
[00:40] <CheckYourSix> Ok, each of those releases is for a different CPU type
[00:40] <RubyDZ> 32-bit
[00:40] <RubyDZ> The OS is 32-bit
[00:40] <CheckYourSix> If you're running the 32 bit OS, it's the i386 version
[00:40] <RubyDZ> K, thanks!
[00:40] <CheckYourSix> AMD64 for a 64 bit OS, the rest are for ARM processors, PowerPC, etc.
[00:41] <RubyDZ> Cool, thanks for the info :)
[00:41] <RubyDZ> One last question before I try this out ... I can use the same USB I used as the Live USB right?
[00:41] <CheckYourSix> Remember that piece of information. Everything, whether linux or windows, goes by amd64, i386, etc.
[00:42] <RubyDZ> Just put the files in  a separate folder would be enough
[00:42] <CheckYourSix> Did you boot off of the live usb to try it out?
[00:42] <CheckYourSix> Or did you install it
[00:42] <RubyDZ> I have already installed the OS on my HDD
[00:42] <CheckYourSix> Then yes you can
[00:42] <RubyDZ> Awesome :)
[00:43] <RubyDZ> I'm kinda sensing my way through this but I'm scared to mess things up so I keep asking all the silly questions lol
[00:43] <CheckYourSix> What's your experience level with computers in general?
[00:45] <RubyDZ> I'm pretty good with them, have always had one around since I was about 3 :)
[00:45] <RubyDZ> I don't code, though, so I am not very confident when messing about with Terminal and similar stuff
[00:46] <RubyDZ> I've had experience with Ubuntu but that was way back in 2011/12 and I think I messed up the OS trying to retrieve my password a few times
[00:46] <RubyDZ> So I abandoned it and now I'm back with a fresh install, Lubuntu this time around
[00:48] <Rexter> RubyDZ, you don't generally code in the terminal. I think most use an IDE, in the GUI.
[00:49] <RubyDZ> Rexter Yeah I know, what I mean is that these commands and stuff mostly make no sense to me so I'm extra-careful when using them :)
[00:50] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, I read that thread and I decided I shouldn't move the mail folder. I was hoping to be able to use one flash drive for The Portable Thunderbird under Windows and Thunderbird on Ubuntu with the same mail store
[00:50] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: I skimmed it real fast and it looked like a bad idea overall. I understand what you're trying to do. Why not just leave the mail on the server using IMAP or whatever? That way it'll be the same on both machines
[00:51] <Twirl> hello, ubuntu takes ages to boot and to open programs
[00:51] <Twirl> it used to be fast
[00:51] <Rexter> I think most can fumble through normal day to day tasks with only the GUI, but the terminal really is a part of linux. If you want to do configuration or trouble shooting it's almost unavoidable.
[00:51] <Twirl> this installation has been going on for a couple of years and i've installed hundreds of packages
[00:51] <Twirl> it's not even using 10% of CPU when opening programs
[00:52] <Twirl> is there anything i can do besides re-installing everything and switching to SSD?
[00:54] <Rexter> Twirl, have you tried anything yet?
[00:55] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, I'm almost out of space on my Gmail. I don't want to delete the mail but move everything from the past 4 years to the USB drive
[00:56] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: So, 4 years of data trusted to a small USB drive that can be lost or die at any point?
[00:56] <Twirl> Rexter: i asked a question that is answered with a yes, a no or a suggestion
[00:56] <penth> I don't suppose anyone else has tried the official arduino package under vivid recently? It appears to need gtk2-engines-murrine, but doesn't have requirements for anything but arduino-core ad java.
[00:56] <penth> s/ad/and/
[00:56] <CheckYourSix> Twirl: With that attitude, good luck getting any help
[00:57] <quantic> Twirl: not the way to go about getting answers.
[00:57] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, Yes I know it's a bad idea but until I get my VPN working right I can't move it to my home system
[00:57] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: Is there anything within the emails that you can delete? Unnecessary or duplicate stuff?
[00:57] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: And why is your VPN not working?
[00:58] <Twirl> quantic: thats funny, i thought that's not the way about answering
[00:59] <Rexter> Twirl, meh, I'm going to go with "no suggestion."
[00:59] <Twirl> Rexter: yea, thats better, if you don't have any suggestion just dont suggest anything :)
[00:59] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, My VPN isn't working becuase I messed up something in the config and can't figure it out yet. And I don't know if I have anything unnecessary in email
[01:00] <quantic> Twirl: I'm fairly sure he had plenty of suggestions. You just don't get to hear any of them now because of your attitude.
[01:00] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: What setup are you using for VPN and what's wrong?
[01:00] <Twirl> quantic: what suggestions?
[01:02] <RubyDZ> CheckYourSix: Thanks for your help! I just got my WiFi connected on my Lubuntu
[01:03] <CheckYourSix> RubyDZ: No problem. My old laptop has a Broadcom chip in it for Wifi, so I went through something similar. I had an ethernet connection luckily, so it was a bit easier.
[01:06] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, I'm doing a VPN into an other ubuntu  system and it just fails to connet. it says it failed
[01:07] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: OpenVPN, IPSec, what? And has something changed since you had it working last?
[01:07] <quantic> on that note, I'm hoping the wlan chipset in my new laptop is something at least somewhat Linux-friendly.
[01:08] <quantic> But I'm FAIRLY sure it's a Broadcom. :P
[01:08] <CheckYourSix> I have an old laptop. Only time I ever use it is when I'm away from home and need internet for something. 95% of the year it collects dust
[01:09] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, Sorry I'm, doing a PPTP server so I can connect from a Windows Laptop, iphone or Ubuntu. I had it working then I was trying to make it a mail server as well so I was working on firewall rules but i was tired and I don't recall what i did.m
[01:09] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, Sorry I'm, doing a PPTP server so I can connect from a Windows Laptop, iphone or Ubuntu. I had it working then I was trying to make it a mail server as well so I was working on firewall rules but i was tired and I don't recall what i did.
[01:09] <CheckYourSix> Using IP Tables?
[01:10] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, I think I am using ip tables but not sure.
[01:10] <quantic> MannyLNJ: You're probably already aware of this, but I do feel it important to make you aware of the security problems in PPTP. (I work in the security space professionally, it's a habit.)
[01:10] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: sudo iptables -L
[01:11] <MannyLNJ> quantic, I am aware but I feel as a home user I am safe.
[01:11] <quantic> MannyLNJ: Hey, as long as you're aware. :)
[01:11] <CheckYourSix> You're better off setting up OpenVPN or something else, but it's your choice
[01:11] <Rexter> quantic, isn't PPTP still okay as long as you use a strong password?
[01:12] <quantic> Rexter: No. PPTP is thoroughly broken.
[01:12] <CheckYourSix> PPTP is just like WEP... Worthless
[01:12] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, every guide I found for openVPN made my eyes blurry.
[01:13] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: Setting up a real VPN is a little bit more work. PPTP is a waste though. You might as well just DMZ your home pc. It's not far off
[01:13] <quantic> That is accurate.
[01:13] <CheckYourSix> Don't actually do that... I'm just making a point
[01:13] <CheckYourSix> What are you using for a router?
[01:14] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12872354/
[01:14] <CheckYourSix> What error do you get? Timeout? Connection refused?
[01:14] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, Router is one provided by my ISP which does not allow me to manage it other than open ports.
[01:14] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, I get a refused message
[01:15] <MannyLNJ> it says The VPN connection "home" failed
[01:15] <CheckYourSix> I wish you remembered what you did that broke it. Doesn't look like you did much of anything in iptables
[01:16] <MannyLNJ> I do have SSH access to the system. It's a laptop with a broken LCD screen.
[01:17] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, if I were to switch to openvpn would you assist me?
[01:18] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: It's more in depth than an IRC chat. You're better off following a guide that already exists with photo instructions. I'm also getting off of here in a few minutes.
[01:18] <CheckYourSix> I can try to help if you get stuck, but I can't walk you through it step by step. The guide is better for that
[01:18] <CheckYourSix> Just not tonight
[01:18] <waterCreature> hi, i was looking for normal pdfreader with highlighting options and came across this mark down editor called utext. I want to know if every markdown can handle math Latex
[01:19] <Rexter> So is PPTP broken from the standpoint of encryption, authentication, or both. In other words. If I have a PPTP endpoint in my network, can anyone get in?
[01:20] <CheckYourSix> Rexter: quantic can probably answer that one best. I don't know all of the technical issues with it. I just know it's worthless now.
[01:21] <Rexter> lol, sure CheckYourSix, worthless is a retaliative term. My CoCo3 is worthless, but I still use it from time to time. hey, it runs OS9!
[01:22] <CheckYourSix> I know lol. I just never bothered to learn all of the technical security issues with it. I never used it.
[01:22] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, do you have a specifc guide you suggest? Rexter I agree about worthless, my Vectex is worthless but i play it
[01:22] <quantic> Rexter: Only when using EAP-TLS is PPTP considered even marginally secure, and that requires a full PKI deployment.
[01:22] <quantic> Rexter: Otherwise, it's using MSCHAPv2, and in PPTP'
[01:23] <quantic> Rexter: Otherwise, it's using MSCHAPv2, and in PPTP's implementation of it, it's thoroughly broken. As in someone could snag a handshake and decrypt your actual password.
[01:23] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: I don't have one bookmarked off hand. I'll see if I can find one tomorrow
[01:23] <RubyDZ> CheckYourSix, sorry for the silly questions ... one last one for tonight. When I run sudo lshw, is the size of the memory listed under *-memory my RAM or my HDD memory?
[01:23] <MannyLNJ> CheckYourSix, thank you
[01:23] <Rexter> quantic, so it would require a man-in-the middle attack?
[01:23] <quantic> Rexter: PPTP also has no facility to guarantee authenticity or integrity. It is possible to manipulate or corrupt data from outside the connection, and it's undetectable inside the connection.
[01:24] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: RAM
[01:24] <quantic> Rexter: Even the encryption algorithm is known-weak. Specifically, RC4.
[01:24] <MannyLNJ> I mainly wane to VPN for saftey when I am using a public access point
[01:24] <MannyLNJ> RubyDZ, i think CheckYourSix meant RAM to your question
[01:24] <RubyDZ> MannyLNJ yeah figured that one lol
[01:25] <CheckYourSix> MannyLNJ: Sorry, tagged the wrong person.
[01:25] <RubyDZ> Thanks CheckYourSix!
[01:25] <quantic> Rexter: PPTP also has no guarantee of forward secrecy. The encryption key is derived solely off of client credentials, and is the same for every session involving that client.
[01:25] <quantic> Rexter: I could keep going.
[01:26] <Rexter> MannyLNJ, if that is what you are using it for, you need something stronger. But what I was wondering, If I just use a VPN provider for the purpose of hiding my IP address from the sites I visit, or to bypass geographical restrictions, I'm wondering what risk PPTP poses to me?
[01:27] <quantic> Rexter: If you're only using it to change the apparent location of your public endpoint, then that's fine. Just understand that of the three components of information security (confidentiality, integrity, availability), PPTP protects none.
[01:27] <quantic> Rexter: You must treat anything that travels over that connection as in-the-clear.
[01:29] <Rexter> quantic, Great info, thanks. I have a few clients who use PPTP to remote into their office for the purpose of accessing a file server. I have been unable to convince them the justification for the cost of changing it to something stronger.
[01:30] <Rexter> It's the typical atitude that things are working fine, so why mess with it.
[01:30] <quantic> Rexter: If you like, I can write a short whitepaper for you to present. I can also recommend low-cost, low-complexity alternatives.
[01:30] <quantic> (To #ubuntu: Sorry, this got WAY off-topic.)
[01:30] <root____2> hi
[01:31] <KimmoNO_> I can no longer boot into graphical mode on my Ubuntu 15.04 install. I think this started when I added a HDD to check it for errors and something went wrong. I am a newbie at this.
[01:31] <KimmoNO_> I have tried booting in using different kernels.
[01:32] <Rexter> One in particular, I think the endpoint is a router running dd-wrt. I think that thing does L2TP.
[01:32] <MannyLNJ> thanks for the info. Thanks everyone. i'm off for now
[01:32] <Rexter> No one is complaining, and I think it is great food for thought when it comes to future trouble shooting.
[01:32] <KimmoNO_> I would really appreciate some help :)
[01:33] <alimsah> hi guys
[01:34] <Rexter> KimmoNo, do you end up at the command prompt after boot?
[01:34] <KimmoNO_> Yes
[01:35] <KimmoNO_> there are two errors: Boot Error - ACPI PCC Probe Failed and ignoring BGRT invalid status 0 (expected 1). Both seems not problematic based on what I have read.
[01:36] <KimmoNO_> I have removed the naughty HDD, but that did not help.
[01:37] <cafe`guy> Hi anyone use pia with ubuntu?
[01:38] <KimmoNO_> Rexter: Yes
[01:39] <Rexter> try the startx command
[01:40] <Rexter> Cafe`guy, I use PIA with Ubuntu.
[01:41] <Rexter> KimmoNo, your command prompt, is it # or $
[01:41] <KimmoNO_> I have Dependency failed for: device dev_mapper_something, /boot/efi, Local File Ssystems, /boot
[01:41] <cafe`guy> Rexter, is this the best way to set it up   UBUNTU 12.04 OPENVPN SETUP
[01:42] <KimmoNO_> root@somthing://home/username
[01:42] <KimmoNO_> #
[01:43] <in_deep_thought> I am trying to install libzint (the barcode generator) on ubuntu 14.04. Are these good steps to follow? http://www.benbernier.com/installing-zint-barcode-generator-in-ubuntu-10-04/ even though its 10.04?
[01:43] <in_deep_thought> is there no apt-get repository for zint?
[01:44] <Rexter> Cafe`guy, yes I have personally used that script on 12.04, 14.04, and 15.04. Works like a charm. One misunderstanding the first time. It will ask for your PIA login. it's asking for the PIA Username, the password has to be entered into each VPN server profile individually.
[01:44] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, startx - Xauth: file:root//.Xauthority does not exist
[01:44] <cafe`guy> oh great thanks Rexter that's a good deal
[01:47] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, want me to add more information?
[01:48] <Rexter> KimmoNo, wow you broke something...
[01:48] <KimmoNO_> Yes :(
[01:49] <Rexter> KimmoNo, what version on Ubuntu?
[01:49] <KimmoNO_> 15.04
[01:49] <KimmoNO_> 3.18, 3.19 and 4.0 kernels available
[01:50] <KimmoNO_> Could it be that Grub is fgone or something like that?
[01:50] <in_deep_thought> ok wait I think im figuring it out. ok so cmake generates files in /build right. When I want to run make, do I do it from the newly created buid directory?
[01:52] <KimmoNO_> I can switch kernels and I have done that a few times.
[01:53] <Rexter> KimmoNo, it's dropping to single user mode. There are a lot of things that could cause that. One of many could be that grub is mis-configured, and is doing that per it's configuration.
[01:54] <Rexter> I have no reason to believe that's the issue above any other cause though. I  just pointed that out because you asked about Grub.
[01:55] <KimmoNO_> okey
[01:55] <KimmoNO_> Do you have any tips for the next step I can try here?
[01:55] <Rexter> KimmoNo, any reason a full reinstall is impractical?
[01:55] <KimmoNO_> I am happy to do that as long as I can copy out my /home
[01:56] <Rexter> You can do that from the Ubuntu CD. Just boot into Live mode, and copy to an external.
[01:56] <KimmoNO_> okey, I will try that. Thanks!
[01:57] <Strav> he. Anyone else not having kmail's icon displayed in systray on kubuntu 15.10? (no answer from kubuntu nor ubuntu+1)
[01:57] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, I did one more change actually. I removed the SATA cable to the DVD and used it on the HDD that I wanted to test.
[01:58] <Rexter> just verify that data carefully before you do a replace install.
[01:58] <Rexter> It's a bit more complicated if you encrypted your home folder. If so I hope you saved your key!
[01:58] <KimmoNO_> Yes. The data is encrypted, how will that work when I boot with a Live CD?
[01:59] <KimmoNO_> right...
[01:59] <Rexter> KimmoNo, you won't be able to read it.
[02:00] <KimmoNO_> So are there other options for me then?
[02:00] <in_deep_thought> can someone help explain to me how to use this file: http://sourceforge.net/u/oehhar/zint/ci/0c1dc1bb5fcc82716d6c3b5fe945bf3f0421859d/tree/debian/libzint.install   Do I just add that into usr/lib and then I can install it somehow?
[02:00] <xubuntu> hello?
[02:00] <Rexter> I was really hoping someone would jump in as we talked. I have little experience with this.
[02:01] <xubuntu> how do I copy files from a cd to my desktop??
[02:01] <Guest79249> how do I copy files from a cd to my desktop??
[02:01] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, you have been a great help for a desperate person :)
[02:01] <Guest79249> ??
[02:01] <Guest79249> can anyone hel me
[02:01] <Guest79249> can anyone help me
[02:01] <Guest79249> ?
[02:01] <Guest79249> how do I copy files from a cd to my desktop??
[02:02] <Rexter> KimmoNo, looks like you've got your work cut out for you. No backup, I presume?
[02:02] <Rexter> Guest79, just copy and past like any other computer.
[02:02] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, No, not yet. It is pretty new.
[02:03] <Bashing-om> Guest79249: Why not in the file manager two instances of a window and drag/drop between them ?
[02:03] <Guest79249> it wont let me
[02:03] <Rexter> KimmoNo, take a look at this page. Did you save your encryption key somewhere?
[02:03] <Rexter> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1597246
[02:03] <Guest79249> im running a live boot
[02:04] <Guest79249> from usb
[02:04] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, when I boot up, I decrypt the storage, so I have access to the files now. I just dont know how to get it over to a usb stick or to another computer.
[02:04] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, no, I dont think so.
[02:05] <Rexter> Oh... first you'll have to mount the USB drive, and then toy can use the cp command to copy the folders.
[02:05] <Rexter> 'you'
[02:05] <Guest79249> who
[02:05] <Guest79249> ?
[02:06] <KimmoNO_> Rexter: So I just need to look for instructions on how to mount a USB stick then?
[02:06] <Guest79249> nvm its working
[02:06] <Rexter> Guest79, a live session is entirely in Ram, the desktop everything. I don't understand what you are trying to do.
[02:06] <Guest79249> 119.0 MB
[02:07] <Guest79249> ok i have a c plus plus dvd with data on it
[02:07] <Guest79249> and i want to copy those files to my phone
[02:07] <Guest79249> its working now
[02:07] <Rexter> KimmoNo, yea it's the mount command. I'm not great at it myself. i use it so rarly, I have to look it up every time.
[02:07] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, I need to reboot once for the system to find the USB stick, I guess?
[02:08] <Rexter> no
[02:08] <KimmoNO_> Okey
[02:08] <KimmoNO_> Manual mount here then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[02:08] <gzcwnk> dmesg should sahow the usb key
[02:09] <Rexter> yea, then mount <device> /mnt/usb
[02:10] <Rexter> in my example, you had to have created that usb folder first.
[02:10] <x0011BF> I can't seem to find the guide to installing Windows after installing Ubuntu. I remember there being one, though.
[02:10] <x0011BF> (With UEFI)
[02:13] <Rexter> KimmoNo, so to clarify:
[02:13] <Rexter> first create a folde in /mnt
[02:13] <Rexter> mkdir /mnt/usb
[02:13] <Rexter> use dmesg to find the device
[02:13] <Rexter> mount <device> /mnt/usb
[02:13] <Rexter> Use cp command to copy files
[02:13] <Rexter> cp -r /home/user /mnt/usb
[02:16] <KimmoNO_> Rexter and gzcwnk: Thanks! I have mounted the USB here and I have tested writing to it :)
[02:19] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, Sorry to keep asking. Could I mount a SSD this way?
[02:22] <Rexter> lalalal
[02:22] <in_deep_thought> how do I know the ppa name that I can specify when I just have a launchpad link like this: https://launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6543221
[02:22] <Rexter> lol, I'm back. I got muted for that last post.
[02:22] <Rexter> I PMed you
[02:23] <KimmoNO_> oh, sure
[02:23] <Rexter> KimmoNo_, yes you can use the mount command for an SSD the same way.
[02:27] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: maybe, can't you find the SSD using dmesg also?
[02:27] <jtdesigns01> when I try to install 15.04 split between my ssd and my hdd, it hangs once it gets to the slideshow installation screen.
[02:27] <jtdesigns01> can anyone help me?
[02:28] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: maybe try blkid
[02:28] <KimmoNO_> ty
[02:29] <Rexter> jtdesigns01: are you just placing the /home on the HDD?
[02:29] <jtdesigns01> yeah, that and /var
[02:29] <Rexter> jtdesigns01: KimmoNO_: It really depends on your BIOS. Some will the the SATA device immediately, some will require a reboot.
[02:29] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, no, I dont see it there. dmesg outputted a lot of information.
[02:30] <Rexter> how about blkid
[02:30] <KimmoNO_> No, I dont see it using blkid.
[02:30] <Rexter> jtdesigns01: sorry that last one was not for you... tell me your partition layout.
[02:31] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: yea reboot, you should see a SATA drive in bklid.
[02:32] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: is the ssd formatted?
[02:32] <Rexter> hey anyone here know how to narrow down the output for dmesg?
[02:32] <jtdesigns01> ssd: hacked osx partition, windows 10 partition, ext4 for ubuntu (hacked bootloader on osx partition)
[02:33] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, I have a hard drive attached to this computer as sdb. How do I find it so that I can copy to it?
[02:34] <Rexter> jtdesigns01: You're running a multi-boot hackintosh?
[02:34] <jtdesigns01> hdd: win_10_users, old_win10_install, /home, /var, swap
[02:34] <jtdesigns01> yeah
[02:34] <Rexter> jtdesigns01: that's awesome, but it creates a whole lot of complication.
[02:35] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: what drive is that?
[02:35] <jtdesigns01> afk, will be back
[02:35] <KimmoNO_> A 3TB HDD
[02:36] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: I mean, is that the one that has your data?
[02:36] <KimmoNO_> Npo
[02:36] <KimmoNO_> No
[02:37] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: okay, that's the destination. Mount it just like the USB drive.
[02:37] <KimmoNO_> Okey
[02:42] <KimmoNO_> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb
[02:42] <KimmoNO_> Could it be already mounted? I set it up as a file share for my local network.
[02:42] <Rexter> is the drive formatted?
[02:43] <KimmoNO_> Yes, it was in use.
[02:43] <gzcwnk> df -h would show it mounted
[02:43] <KimmoNO_> gzcwnk, It is not listed when I do df -h
[02:43] <gzcwnk> use by windows?
[02:44] <gzcwnk> fdisk /dev/sdb shwos what filesystem type?
[02:44] <KimmoNO_> Not specially for Windows. Lets see if I have some notes on what I did.
[02:45] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: you may have tried to mount the drive rather than the partition. /dev/sdb rather than /dev/sdbx
[02:46] <KimmoNO_> Right. That seems plausible :)
[02:46] <Rexter> make sure you mount the correct partition.
[02:47] <mohit> Is it legit to charge for writing custom bash scripts?
[02:47] <gzcwnk> yes, why not?
[02:47] <KimmoNO_> fdisk /dev/sdb brings me into a menu. l lists a lot of OSes
[02:47] <mohit> ok thanks
[02:48] <Rexter> mohit: of course! In the US it's even copyrighted....
[02:48] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: that's your list of partitions on that drive. use the mount command to mount the one where you want to put the data.
[02:48] <gzcwnk> if its a gpl thing you cant cahrge for bash itself
[02:49] <in_deep_thought> I have a question: I just added this ppa to my system: https://launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6543221 and clearly they have some zint package. Yet when I run apt-cache search zint, it comes back empty
[02:49] <in_deep_thought> am I using apt-cache wrong?
[02:49] <gzcwnk> did u do an apt-get update?
[02:49] <mohit> gzcwnk, custom scripts using tools which are under gpl?
[02:49] <Rexter> mohit: for 85 years after your death. That means your grandkids can sue if they find that someone has ever shared that script! Isn't copyright great?
[02:50] <mohit> Rexter, where i can learn more about copyright and licenses?
[02:50] <gzcwnk> mohit yes you charge for your time
[02:50] <Rexter> mohit: Google
[02:50] <in_deep_thought> gzcwnk, wow nope. thats a good idea. unfortunately the search still has no output :/
[02:51] <mohit> Rexter, Thanks will look there first
[02:51] <KimmoNO_> When I do blkid it lists sda1,2 and 3. But nothing like that on sdb
[02:52] <gzcwnk> in_deep_thought when u do taht does it access the repo?
[02:52] <KimmoNO_> PTUUID="something" PTTYPE="gpt"
[02:53] <in_deep_thought> gzcwnk, idk. is there a way to find out?
[02:53] <gzcwnk> when you do a apt-get update you should see it accessing the repo
[02:54] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: are you sure you don't have those mixed up. sda may be the drive you are looking for.
[02:54] <gzcwnk> like,  warlock:/home# apt-get update and you should see, Get:1 ftp://ftp.au.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg [2,373 B]
[02:54] <gzcwnk> one should be the repo u want
[02:55] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: lshw -C disk
[02:55] <Rexter> Look at those drives a little closer.
[02:55] <KimmoNO_> sda1-3 is the SSD
[02:56] <mate|34813> hello everyone, I a,m using Ubuntu Mate and trying to modify the PATH variable. I set PATH in both /etc/profile and /etc/environment, but no effects. Any suggestions?
[02:56] <Rexter> How many drives are connected, and which is your active system?
[02:57] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: what drive are you booting into single user from?
[02:57] <KimmoNO_> 3 drives connected, including the USD drive. sdc = USB, sda = Sandisk SSD and sdb = HGST 3TB HDD
[02:57] <KimmoNO_> All the OS stuff is on the Sandisk SSD
[02:58] <KimmoNO_> The 3TB drive was a samba share
[02:59] <Rexter> oh! your partition is NTFS?
[02:59] <KimmoNO_> I am not sure to be honest.
[02:59] <in_deep_thought> gzcwnk, yeah thats a good point. so this: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* lists /etc/apt/sources.list.d/baltix-members-ppa-trusty.list:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/baltix-members/ppa/ubuntu trusty main so thats good. but I don't see anything about it when I run apt-get update
[02:59] <in_deep_thought> what does that mean
[03:01] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/folder
[03:01] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: whas it a window file share?
[03:02] <gzcwnk> in_deep thought I see no "deb"  ?
[03:03] <KimmoNO_> I followed instructions for something that was good for sharing files between mac, windows and linux. I planned on doing backup to that drive. :)
[03:03] <KimmoNO_> I set it up and then forgot a bit about it.
[03:03] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: But what was the host OS?
[03:03] <gzcwnk> so, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/baltix-members/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
[03:03] <KimmoNO_> It was setup from Ubuntu
[03:04] <gzcwnk> i need to boot a ubuntu box
[03:04] <Rexter> okay, not NTFS then.
[03:04] <gzcwnk> brb
[03:04] <KimmoNO_> Failed to access volume /dev/sdb1 : No such file or directory
[03:04] <Rexter> Is the SSD not large enough to hold your data
[03:05] <KimmoNO_> It is. Just need to reboot I guess.
[03:07] <Rexter> I don't understand what you are seeing with the 3TB drive. It doesn't matter what kind of share it was, that's software. It matters what partition type, and format was used.
[03:08] <Rexter> It sounds like it was GPT partition type which I think is incompatible with fdisk.
[03:08] <Rexter> But I would expect blkid so still see the partitions.
[03:11] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: So are we 100% that the 3TB drive is sdb?
[03:11] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, Yes
[03:12] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: lsblk -t /dev/sdb
[03:12] <azizLIGHT> is there any program that can shade/darken the screen
[03:12] <azizLIGHT> and easily switch between shades of darkness
[03:12] <KimmoNO_> I have zipped up everything but pictures and video now to the USB drive, so I am a bit safer now.
[03:12] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: cool
[03:13] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: can you pastbin the output?
[03:13] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, That command just seems to output sector size and such?
[03:13] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: can you pastbin the output?
[03:14] <KimmoNO_> Copy text output via USB then and move to another machine?
[03:15] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: I'll tell you what. let me pastebin mine, and you can tell me what's different.
[03:16] <KimmoNO_> sdb 0 4096 0 4096 512 1 dealine 128 128 0B
[03:16] <Rexter> http://pastebin.com/D9Vyhz2V
[03:17] <azizLIGHT> can i change what shows up when i hold down the super key
[03:17] <azizLIGHT> in 14.04
[03:17] <KimmoNO_> I just have that single result line
[03:18] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: see how mine has sdb, and then sdb1, and sdb2?
[03:18] <Rexter> sda, whatever
[03:18] <Rexter> so you have sdb0?
[03:19] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, no
[03:20] <KimmoNO_> Ther eis just a single line: sdb     0     4096...
[03:20] <KimmoNO_> There are descriptive fields above that line ofc.
[03:22] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, I am happy to format that drive. Or remove it, if it causes problems.
[03:22] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: wow, looks like an empty drive with no partitions to me.
[03:22] <Rexter> I'd remove it for now, mount a partition on the SSD, and move your data.
[03:23] <KimmoNO_> Okey. Will reboot then.
[03:23] <Rexter> I thought you were seeing partitions on sdc?
[03:24] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, Yes, sdc1
[03:24] <Rexter> is that the only partition on that drive? I mean, should there be more?
[03:25] <KimmoNO_> sda has three
[03:25] <KimmoNO_> That is the SSD
[03:25] <Rexter> Sorry, too much to keep track of. all text chat, no visuals
[03:25] <KimmoNO_> The original SSD with the Ubuntu OS. I also added a additional Intel SSD now.
[03:25] <KimmoNO_> ofc :)
[03:26] <Rexter> okay, so the destination drive, how many partitions should it have already?
[03:27] <KimmoNO_> I dont know. Ther eis probably a previous Linux install on it.
[03:27] <Rexter> after you connect the destination drive:
[03:27] <Rexter> lshw -C disk
[03:27] <Rexter> can you see that drive?
[03:28] <KimmoNO_> That drive has sdb and sdb1 2 and 5 under it.
[03:29] <KimmoNO_> I probably need to format it?
[03:29] <Rexter> but format what, you have to see it first. reboot
[03:30] <KimmoNO_> I have rebooted. This is a new sdb
[03:30] <KimmoNO_> This is the new Intel SSD I want to copy to and it is listed as sdb++
[03:32] <Rexter> okay, use fdisk to create a new partition.
[03:35] <KimmoNO_> I delete all three existing partiions first?
[03:36] <Rexter> oh, you could have just mounted one of them with enough space.
[03:41] <lkthomas> if I want my local repo to be highest priority, setting pin priority as 990 is the best, correct ?
[03:42] <KimmoNO_> Rexter: I tried: mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/backup2 and got unknown filsystem type "crypto_LUKS"
[03:43] <KimmoNO_> So I delete that first then?
[03:44] <Rexter> oh, they were encrypted partitions.
[03:45] <KimmoNO_> So I delete 5, then write to disk? Then go back and create new?
[03:46] <Rexter> yes, then mount it, and copy data to it.
[03:46] <Rexter> actually, I'm a little confused about your question.
[03:47] <Rexter> "then write to disk?"
[03:47] <speakingcode> is ubuntu still shipping with ifconfig or is it using ip?
[03:47] <KimmoNO_> w = write table to disk and exit
[03:48] <Mamba_2> Hello
[03:48] <Rexter> speakingcode: my 14.04 is ifconfig
[03:49] <Rexter> KimmoNO_oh, okay, yea, I think you have to use MBR, not GPT if you are using fdisk.
[03:51] <KimmoNO_> okey, because I got a error mounting the new partition now.
[03:51] <Rexter> what error
[03:51] <KimmoNO_> So go back and try to make it not GPT?
[03:51] <Rexter> sure try
[03:53] <_syntroPi_> i thought parted is gpt, fdisk mbr. i.e. using uefi would mean parted
[03:54] <NvrBst> Question about overlayfs in 14.04.3 LTS. The kernel docs says I can use an overlayfs as a lowerdir, but, i get "No such device or address" when I try to read the files. Example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12874062/  Is there something special i need to do when creating the first overlayfs?
[03:56] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, Now I have a good partition after formattin it too. Thanks! :)
[03:59] <Rexter> great! are you transferring the data now?
[04:00] <KimmoNO_> Rexter, I can now just do a zip -r /mnt/backup2/somefilename.zip /home/username ?
[04:09] <jasondockers> Drone`, did you just punish someone for helping?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> jasondockers: what do you mean?
[04:12] <jasondockers> lotuspsychje, , Drone removed Rexter's voice for cluttering a vacant channel with answers. I thought it just happened. My client was scrolled up in the chatlog
[04:13] <Rexter> I'm here
[04:14] <Rexter> I got muted earlier, because of a multi-line instruction I posted.
[04:15] <Rexter> KimmoNO_: I've never use the zip command. I suggested to do a cp -r /home/username /mnt/backup2
[04:16] <Rexter> But either way, you should just look up the specific syntax, and options. Like I said, i have to look it up every time. Don't do it very often.
[04:19] <Rexter> well it's past my bedtime. have a great night everyone.
[04:23] <MrWhiskers> Anyone in here a bash ninja?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> MrWhiskers: better ask your specifi issue in the channel mate
[04:32] <MrWhiskers> Alright, so Im doing an HTTP curl in a shell script and setting the results as a variable.
[04:32] <MrWhiskers> After that Im calling the variable via echo and processing it using grep and sed.
[04:33] <MrWhiskers> echo "$devicedetails" | grep 'firmwareVersion' | sed 's/<\/\?[^>]\+>//g'
[04:33] <MrWhiskers> when i run that alone it looks good, just outputs the plain text.
[04:33] <MrWhiskers> But what I can figure out is how to set the results of ^^ to a new variable?
[04:34] <unrobot> yo
[04:34] <MrWhiskers> s/can/cant
[04:34] <MrWhiskers> hey unrobot
[04:34] <unrobot> sup
[04:35] <frenda> I want to install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras', but I don't want to install flashplayer-plugin and other non-free package, also ms-ttf-core-fonts; Is there any replacement? Can I see what are included within ubuntu-restricted-extras and install them manually?
[04:36] <unrobot> yes
[04:36] <unrobot> what do you aanr
[04:39] <quantic> MrWhiskers: figure out your conundrum yet?
[04:39] <MrWhiskers> quantic: I have not
[04:39] <quantic> MrWhiskers: My first thought is to wrap the whole thing in backticks.
[04:40] <quantic> MrWhiskers: newvar=`allofthatabove`
[04:40] <MrWhiskers> quantic: Yea, I tried that too...  it does some weird crap and outputs stuff from the middle of the string.  Not sure why.
[04:40] <quantic> MrWhiskers: Can you pastebin what you're doing from start to finish?
[04:40] <MrWhiskers> Its strange that it behaves differently when calling it like that
[04:41] <MrWhiskers> quantic: sure, mind if I pm it to you?
[04:41] <quantic> MrWhiskers: I can take a look, see if I can make it work.
[04:41] <quantic> Nah, go for it. :)
[04:44] <frenda> I want to install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras', but I don't want to install flashplayer-plugin, any solution?
[04:46] <quantic> frenda: You can use the TUI of aptitude to see what ubuntu-restricted-extras contains, and install them piece-meal.
[04:47] <Flannel> frenda: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage.  (And actually, it's a metapackage that's full of recommends, not dependencies).
[04:47] <Flannel> frenda: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-restricted-extras  and then the flashplayer is in the restricted-addons: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-restricted-addons
[04:48] <frenda>     Legal Notice Patent and copyright laws operate differently depending on which country you are in. Please obtain legal advice if you are unsure whether a particular patent or restriction applies to a media format you wish to use in your country.
[04:48] <frenda> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats)
[04:49] <frenda> Is it legal to install Ubuntu-restricted-extras in the USA?
[04:49] <unrobot> yes
[04:49] <unrobot> usa legality is illegal in world view
[04:50] <Flannel> frenda: It's probably the most future-proof to hold the flash package (and it's variants) (mark them as not installable), and then just install u-r-e.
[04:50] <Twirl> hi, subdownloader is broken http://i.imgur.com/B24vuQy.png
[04:51] <Twirl> stays there indefinitely, is there anything i can try without submitting a bug report?
[05:02] <unrobot> ok
[05:19] <frenda> There's two GStreamer packages in Ubuntu-Restricted-Extras: gstreamer0.10-plugins* AND   gstreamer1.0-plugins* --> Is it needed to install both 1.0 and 0.1 versions?
[05:19] <frenda> are*
[05:24] <ycon_> Hi all, my first time deploying to a server. Its for a django backend for my mobile App. I'm used to ubuntu. Can I just use Ubuntu 14.04? Or Must I use Ubuntu Server?
[05:25] <TheRinger> Not recognizing my Rosewill interal Memory card reader, well the usb port works on it but nothing else.. using wily
[05:25] <hateball> ycon_: It doesnt really matter, but having a GUI creates overhead
[05:26] <hateball> ycon_: You can however opt to disable GUI starting on boot, and only launching it if needed
[05:26] <ycon_> hateball, so Linux Server won't have a Desktop/GUI? I'm totally new to this
[05:26] <ycon_> *I mean ubunutu server
[05:26] <hateball> ycon_: Server is CLI only, yes. But you can install GUI afterwards if you like. It's just a different set of default packages
[05:27] <hateball> ycon_: They use different kernels as well, but you can change that whenever you like as well
[05:42] <ycon_> hateball, no desktop? I think i'm out of my depth here
[05:43] <ubuntu> hiii
[05:43] <hateball> ycon_: If you are unsure, you can just install ubuntu desktop and run your applications
[05:43] <hateball> ycon_: the point of server is to have less overhead so you can run it with less resource footprint and fewer attack vectors
[05:45] <ycon_> hateball, that makes sense. I mean- I spend most of my time in the terminal anyway- but I dont get how I'd edit files (like models.py)?
[05:46] <linuxmint> Hello, my Ubuntu 14.04 has a GRUB boot error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'. entering rescue mode...   How can I fix this?
[05:47] <hateball> ycon_: with a text-editor like vim, nano, emacs, etc
[05:48] <reisio> s/nano, //
[05:48] <ycon_> Is installing a GUI on my Ubuntu server version just as risky/resource heavy as using straight Ubuntu?
[05:48] <reisio> ycon_: pretty much
[05:49] <ycon_> Tho come to think of it- on my server- I'd mainly just be using git pull yes? I'd create/do any modifications at my desktop/local machine?
[05:50] <reisio> if you don't know, I dare say no one else will
[05:50] <ycon_> reisio, well I'm totally new to programming/this area- so i'm open to hearing people's good habits
[05:51] <reisio> ycon_: what's the server for?
[05:52] <hateball> ycon_: typically you have a dedicated server running your app, and you can do your editing from your desktop with a GUI if you so please
[05:52] <ycon_> django backend for an iOS/android app.
[05:52] <linuxmint> Anyone know about GRUB. My error takes me to grub rescue> ls (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) )hd1,msdos1)
[05:54] <reisio> ycon_: you don't need a gui for a server, if that's what you're asking :)
[05:55] <reisio> or want one
[05:58] <ycon_> reisio, so how do I make changed when I want to change a model in django etc?
[05:59] <reisio> ycon_: use sshfs to mount your server FS, pretend it's local
[06:03] <ycon_> reisio, I've never heard of that. So that mounts my entire server, so I can use it as if it was a desktop in front ot me? Can I do pip-install etc?
[06:03] <reisio> it mounts whatever part/s of your FS you like, yes
[06:04] <ycon_> FS??
[06:04] <reisio> file system
[06:04] <reisio> from / to /home/ to anyplace
[06:04] <reisio> it can be your entire server, or just part of it
[06:04] <reisio> pip-install I don't use, if it just puts files where you tell it to, it could work
[06:04] <ycon_> Ahh ok. But for apt-get installs (like to install Ngnix etc) I would have to be in the CLI of the server?
[06:05] <reisio> otherwise you'd want to ssh in normally and run commands
[06:05] <reisio> you would want to be doing that, yeah
[06:05] <reisio> for apt-get
[06:05] <ycon_> Right so SSHFS is ONLY for accessing files. SSH is needed to use the 'terminal'/command line in the server?
[06:06] <reisio> I won't say needed, because fundamentally if you can alter all the files, you can do whatever you want, /but/
[06:06] <reisio> yes, you'll want plain ssh/commands to do maintenance
[06:07] <ycon_> reisio, wow- this is a new world to me
[06:08] <ycon_> Will I go for 15.04 or 14.04 is likely to be more stable/less buggy?
[06:08] <baizon> ycon_: 14.04.03 is less buggy, more stable.
[06:08] <reisio> 14? Is merely older
[06:09] <reisio> can't think of a reason to choose something older, CETERIS PARIBVS
[06:12] <ycon_> reisio, what kind of hardware would you suggest (cores/ram)? It is serving mainly json via an API (including an image). Of course I'll run load tests- but I'd say the load is light (my app is another form of Tinder, but not for dating)
[06:13] <linuxmint> Thanks for all the help, I fixed it.
[06:14] <reisio> ycon_: lot of services will let you easily scale from something for a handful of people to thousands
[06:14] <reisio> amazon's, for example
[06:14] <reisio> linuxmint: gj
[06:14] <ycon_> I'm stuck to Azure (they've given me 3 yrs credit)
[06:16] <ycon_> reisio, when you say scal from somthing- do you mean I can increase my server's power/core's/capacity by cloning it basicalyl?
[06:17] <reisio> I mean a lot of services will let you scale what kind of capacities you pay for, yeah
[06:17] <freeroute> sup, what is like a pastebin but for small webm files?
[06:17] <freeroute> btw virtualbox can record webm video capture now. Pretty cool.
[06:18] <freeroute> the webm I want to show is related to Ubuntu, so not entirely offtopic :)
[06:18] <reisio> ...
[06:18] <freeroute> ???
[06:19] <reisio> https://www.justbeamit.com/
[06:19] <baizon> freeroute: https://vid.me/
[06:19] <freeroute> ty
[06:22] <haxxpop> I can properly go to "https://www.pineapplevisionsystems.com/" but when I use "wget https://www.pineapplevisionsystems.com/" it said that the cert is invalid
[06:22] <haxxpop> anyone can tell me what happens with Comodo ??
[06:23] <reisio> you probably need wget's stupid trust param
[06:23] <reisio> it should say what it wants
[06:23] <reisio> which makes it stupider still
[06:23] <freeroute> so I think the video is self explanatory - https://vid.me/b3nK - I wanted to choose from a world wide list, but it doesn't present me with that. It's Ubuntu mini 15.04 x64.
[06:24] <freeroute> I can paste the justbeamit link for people who don't like the compression quality of vidme :)
[06:25] <haxxpop> reisio: It said it want an option --no-check-certificate, but this is horrible, I need to regularly call wget, so valid ssl connection is my concern
[06:27] <reisio> why's that your concern?
[06:27] <baizon> freeroute: you should report this bug @launchpad
[06:27] <freeroute> baizon: are you sure it's a bug?
[06:28] <freeroute> maybe I messed something up?
[06:28] <reisio> anything behaving nonintuitively is a bug
[06:29] <reisio> wow, vid.me blows :p
[06:29] <above> is there anyoen in here kind enough to lend me $1.50 through paypal of which i can repay $3 tomorrow afternoon? its for my anxiety meds (paypal mastercard) and tmr someone is buying something from me for $90. could repay $4.
[06:29] <freeroute> reisio: well I agree, but before filing a bug, could someone try to spin up a VM and try to recreate it? I don't want to burden devs with a bugreport which might turn out to be my stupid mistake.
[06:29] <freeroute> also I agree on your point about vid.me :p
[06:30] <freeroute> but I figured people simply wanted to see the video instead of downloading it.
[06:30] <above> i somehow dont think the users of this channel live below means like a novice such as me.
[06:31] <freeroute> above: what kind of meds?
[06:32] <reisio> above: couldn't you just drink a beer for a day?
[06:32] <baizon> !support
[06:32] <baizon> !offtopic
[06:33] <ycon_> PS I love lubuntu- works much more nicely with my hardware
[06:33] <reisio> it would
[06:44] <esph> If there are a bunch of things clearly messed up about your system after a routine update through Software Updater, but apt-get update and dist-upgrade report everything to be fine, what can you do?
[06:45] <baizon> esph: well the software udpater error msg would be good
[06:46] <esph> baizon: I'm not sure there was one; it's my sister's computer, and I'm only trying to deal with the aftermath. Where would I find that if it existed?
[06:47] <baizon> esph: well the error msg should pop up if something went wrong. Maybe the repository couldn't be reached at that moment
[06:49] <esph> baizon: Well, something is wrong, and apt-get doesn't report any errors. Unless Software Updater reported errors at that time, and a log of that is kept somewhere on the system, there's no way for me to know.
[06:51] <_jam> I ran do-release-upgrade after converting my 14.04 laptop from lts to normal
[06:51] <_jam> I ran into some errors in the process, but thought I resolved all of them (except some things related to cups and the printing systems)
[06:52] <_jam> however, when I clicked reboot...nothing happened
[06:52] <_jam> tried to run the command manually...and the command is not found
[06:53] <hateball> _jam: does "sudo shutdown -r now" work?
[06:53] <_jam> hateball: no, the shutdown command is also not found
[06:53] <hateball> _jam: what about "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[06:54] <_jam> hmm...it wants to do LOTS
[06:54] <_jam> 2340 to upgrade, 620 to newly install . . .
[06:55] <_jam> i guess do-release-upgrade didn't complete it's job. . . should I try running it again?
[06:55] <_jam> i assume that might try to get me to upgrade to 15.04 before i'm ready though
[06:58] <tawan> hmm, just disconnected which is exactly why I'm trying the above :)
[06:58] <tawan> if anyone replied, I missed it
[06:58] <Trinity> can someone explain to me the format of ls -l or point me to somewhere that does?
[06:58] <Trinity> i've tried reading the man but there doesn't seem to be anything that pertains to it or a flag for verbosity
[07:01] <hateball> _jam: dist-upgrade will only upgrade packages in the current release, it wont go to 15.04
[07:01] <baizon> !man | Trinity
[07:01] <Trinity> baizon, please read my second post
[07:02] <baizon> Trinity: -l: show ctime and sort by name; otherwise: sort by ctime, newest first
[07:02] <baizon> Trinity: thats what man showed me
[07:03] <Trinity> all man says for me is -l use a long listing format
[07:03] <Trinity> is there anything more specific?
[07:03] <_jam> hateball: yea, thats what i'm doing. meant do-release-upgrade might ry that
[07:04] <freeroute> baizon & reisio - did you guys have time to spin up a (vbox) VM and test out whether it was my local problem or a real bug?
[07:04] <baizon> Trinity: well you can combine -l with others so you get more info
[07:04] <hateball> _jam: yeah, and you should, since you're on 14.10 now which is eol
[07:04] <reisio> freeroute: no idea what you're talking about :)
[07:04] <Trinity> baizon, specifically i'm getting for example drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Oct 19 23:51 html. And I want to know what `2` stands for
[07:04] <Trinity> if you could help me
[07:05] <Trinity> I know what the rest mean
[07:05] <freeroute> lol
[07:08] <baizon> Trinity: the number is "Number of links: Second field specifies the number of links for that file. In this example, 1 indicates only one link to this file."
[07:08] <OOPManZA> Hey guys, quick question. When using uvtool to download a cloud image, how do I tell it to use the ubuntu server release?
[07:08] <Trinity> baizon, would you mind clarifying by number of links? like symbolic links?
[07:08] <baizon> Trinity: yes
[07:08] <Trinity> alright, thanks
[07:08] <baizon> Trinity: np
[07:11] <aotea> Recently installed kubuntu, tried installing pip and pip3 but seems their version was stuck at 1.5.6. Downloaded the get-pip.py from python pips installation page but seems it got installed in ~/.local/ is this a desired location for python and pip to be installed?
[07:12] <Trinity> okay one more thing, how do you grep man pages?
[07:12] <baizon> Trinity: why should you grep man?
[07:12] <Trinity> i.e i'm doing man ls | grep "-l" but i'm missing the pattern
[07:12] <somsip> Trinity: / will search in man
[07:12] <baizon> aotea: pip -V should print the location
[07:12] <OOPMan> Anyone?
[07:13] <baizon> OOPMan: yes
[07:13] <Trinity> somsip, thanks
[07:13] <baizon> OOPMan: uvt-simplestreams-libvirt sync release=precise arch=amd64
[07:13] <baizon> OOPMan: more here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cloud-images-and-uvtool.html
[07:13] <OOPMan> baizon: Will that use the sever image by default?
[07:13] <aotea> baizon: yes but I now must invoke pip running "python -m pip" if I just run pip I get "pip is not recognized please install using apt-get install python-pip" or something
[07:14] <OOPMan> aotea: Download the pip installer and run that? Or install the python-pip package?
[07:14] <baizon> OOPMan: read the page i linked
[07:15] <aotea> But the one from apt is version 1.5.6 and I couldn't run "Show" or "List" in pip :c
[07:15] <Lope> Where is the script that automounts removable drives in Ubuntu? I want to modify it to always mount my removable drives with noatime?
[07:16] <OOPMan> baizon: Sorry :-)
[07:16] <OOPMan> baizon: My brain failed to parse that URL ;-)
[07:16] <aotea> OOPMan: if the 'installer' is the get-pip.py from pips site then I guess I ran the installer, but as I said I ended up with python and pip in ~./local/
[07:17] <baizon> Lope: gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.media-handling
[07:18] <OOPMan> aotea: Did you do 'sudo python get-pip.py' or did you run without sudo?
[07:18] <OOPMan> aotea: If you ran with sudo it should have install it systemwide
[07:18] <aotea> Ran it first with sudo, but got an error I don't remember so ran it without after
[07:18] <ikonia> sudo does not mean system wide install
[07:18] <ikonia> it just means the root user
[07:19] <baizon> OOPMan: +1 what ikonia wrote
[07:20] <OOPMan> ikonia: Indeed, but if your python is install in /usr/bin and you you sudo python get-pip.py it should install into the system-wide python
[07:20] <OOPMan> ikonia: Without sudo it will fail due to permissions :-)
[07:20] <ikonia> OOPMan: no, sorry, that is not correct
[07:20] <ikonia> and permissions have nothign to do with it being "system wide"
[07:21] <OOPMan> aotea: Personally, when it comes to Python and Ubuntu I just do "sudo apt-get install python-virtualenv" and just do everything inside venvs
[07:22] <OOPMan> ikonia: Yes, correct, for sure
[07:22] <OOPMan> ikonia: But most stuff in /usr is not writeable by non priviledged users?
[07:22] <ikonia> again - that has nothing to do with "system wide" that is just a path that happens to be in peoples default $PATH
[07:23] <OOPMan> ikonia: And by default apt installs python into a system-wide confiration with site-packages under /usr/lib/pythonX.Y
[07:23] <OOPMan> ikonia: You're being pedantic.
[07:23] <ikonia> no, I'm not
[07:23] <OOPMan> ...
[07:23] <aotea> Isn't pip something one want in the 'universal' python install? or will I run inte issues later on?
[07:24] <OOPMan> aotea: pip is included in newer versions of Python actually
[07:24] <OOPMan> aotea: Python 3.4+ I believe...
[07:24] <OOPMan> aotea: For doing python dev work it's best to keep your system-level Python environment as clean as possible
[07:25] <OOPMan> aotea: When you create a virtual environment using virtualenv it gets its own copy of pip
[07:25] <Lope> baizon: I want to make Ubuntu's auto-mount use noatime, but looking at these options, I don't see a place to add noatime to the mount options? http://www.pastebin.ca/3207879
[07:25] <aotea> OOPMan: Why then does my machine not recognize pip being called :P got both 2.7.9 and 3.4 something
[07:25] <OOPMan> aotea: So you can install whatever you want in there
[07:25] <OOPMan> aotea: I don't think python 2.7.9 comes with pip? For python 3 on ubuntu it's called pip3
[07:26] <aotea> OOPMan: yes but pip3 also wasn't recognized and wanted me to apt-get it.
[07:27] <kev1904> He guys, it is possible to launch synproxy on routed traffic with 2 different in and outbond devices ?
[07:28] <OOPMan> aotea: So why not just apt-get it?
[07:30] <aotea> OOPMan: because as I said, then I get pip version 1.5.6 and there I can't run either "show" or "list" - only throws me error like this one: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786440
[07:31] <OOPMan> aotea: Something is very weird. pip 1.5.6 is about a year old now...
[07:31] <OOPMan> aotea: If you get that version of pip and then do
[07:31] <OOPMan> aotea: pip install pip -U
[07:31] <helpopenport> is there a way to get ssh working on a machine where i only have http port open using a proxy?
[07:31] <OOPMan> aotea: What happens? It should cause pip to upgrade itself to the latest version?
[07:32] <aotea> OOPMan: and with the one I got from apt I was only met with how up to date my version was which I knew wasn't true :P
[07:34] <OOPMan> aotea: What version of #ubuntu are you on?
[07:34] <ikonia> helpopenport: no
[07:34] <aotea> OOPMan: 15.04
[07:35] <ikonia> helpopenport: you do not want to run ssh on port 80
[07:35] <aotea> Here is after I've done apt-get install of pip3 http://pastie.org/10494585
[07:35] <ikonia> and you do not want to try to proxy ssh over http
[07:35] <kev1904> He guys, it is possible to launch synproxy on routed traffic with 2 different in and outbond devices ?
[07:35] <helpopenport> ikonia: perhaps there is a way to create a tunnel- I do have another ubuntu box outside the firewall/proxy
[07:36] <ikonia> helpopenport: not using a http proxy
[07:36] <ikonia> helpopenport: basically - stop trying to bypass firewall rules
[07:36] <OOPMan> aotea: Weird....
[07:36] <ikonia> helpopenport: if you need access talk to the network admin
[07:36] <helpopenport> ikonia: I've locaation A and B. On A, I only have http access thru a proxy. On location B, I'm root and have any port i need open
[07:36] <ikonia> helpopenport: you would still need to use the http proxy - which is a non starter
[07:36] <ikonia> helpopenport: talk to the network admin
[07:37] <OOPMan> aotea: Have you tried uninstall python3-pip completely using apt-get purge python-pip3
[07:37] <OOPMan> aotea: And then install it manually using the get-pip.py file?
[07:37] <helpopenport> ikonia: I did. And was asked to ssh to a machine in the middle, from which i can ssh to the machine at B. Any chance I can make this seamless, and route all my traffic/ports thru
[07:37] <helpopenport> ikonia: For example, I cant use pip right now
[07:38] <aotea> OOPMan: yes was what I did but got it into my ~/.local/ which I wondered if it was the desired result :P
[07:38] <ikonia> helpopenport: because that is a http request
[07:39] <ikonia> and you're using a http proxy
[07:41] <aotea> OOPMan: guess I don't need it to be installed 'systemwide' as I only got one user, but was just bit bothered calling pip running "python3 -m pip" instead of just "pip3"
[07:46] <len__> I am getting odd error messages.  I believe my system has been compromised.
[07:47] <Rumbles> good morning, I've got a bit of a head scratcher... I installed 4 new HDDs in a machine that already has a large number of disks in RAID arrays yesterday
[07:47] <Rumbles> when I do parted -l or fdisk -l, it only lists some disk, not all of them
[07:47] <Rumbles> but if I run smartctl -i on the disks they return information, in /dev/disk/by-id/ I can see them
[07:47] <kev1904> He guys, it is possible to launch synproxy on routed traffic with 2 different in and outbond devices ?
[07:48] <Twirl> Hi, anyone having this issue with subdownloader? http://imgur.com/B24vuQy
[07:48] <Rumbles> but if I run parted on these disks I get unrecognised disk label
[07:48] <Rumbles> can anyone advise why some tools can work with these disks but others can't?
[07:59] <mrclam> "hello"
[07:59] <aotea> "hi"
[08:00] <mrclam> New to the whole IRC thing
[08:01] <freeroute> mrclam: welcome :)
[08:02] <freeroute> you might want to look here to know more about the Freenode network - http://freenode.net/
[08:02] <hateball> !irc | mrclam
[08:02] <Twirl> mrclam: u never been on IRC before?
[08:03] <Twirl> mrclam: oh boi
[08:03] <freeroute> a wonderful world awaits you :)
[08:03] <mrclam> like once in 98'
[08:03] <mrclam> lol
[08:03] <Twirl> mrclam: dont trust anyone
[08:03] <Twirl> mrclam: not even yourself
[08:03] <freeroute> and especially Twirl
[08:03] <mrclam> too funny
[08:03] <CuriousX> mrclam, welcome to IRC i'll be your guide -.-
[08:04] <Twirl> mrclam: for real, most ppl here are undercover cyberpolice officers
[08:04] <mrclam> I do not want the snickers bar. Put that on someone elses bunk
[08:04] <freeroute> they can instantly track your IP by making a GUI in Visual Basic.
[08:05] <mrclam> that makes no ... visual basic?
[08:05] <Twirl> mrclam: yea, make sure you login behind at least 3 or 4 nodes
[08:06] <fabiobik> Hello everyone. Im facing random freezes on my 14.04 Lts . how can i try to discover the root cause? I mean after feezes theres nothing i can do. I need really to unplug the power cable
[08:06] <fabiobik> *freezes
[08:06] <mrclam> I'm not looking for any problems, so I'm not really that concerned
[08:06] <aotea> fabiobik: tried ctrl+alt+f2?
[08:06] <Twirl> mrclam: right now, just for being here, i'm under attack from half of china and 20 machines in the US, hitting me in port 22/ssh
[08:07] <fabiobik> aotea what that should do?
[08:07] <mrclam> Ill have to take a look at my router log
[08:07] <Twirl> mrclam: and that is only 10% of the attacks
[08:07] <cristina_> Hi, can someone help me?
[08:07] <Twirl> there is also ucraine, russia etc
[08:07] <Twirl> just try nethogs
[08:07] <mrclam> Twirl, how do you add my name to ur msg?
[08:07] <cristina_> How I create my private xchat room with my server?
[08:07] <fabiobik> !help Cristina
[08:07] <cristina_> !help Cristina
[08:07] <hateball> !irc | cristina_
[08:07] <freeroute> fabiobik: try this when it freezes - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[08:07] <aotea> fabiobik: Don't fully know the lingo, but it gets you into the machine without gui basically
[08:08] <loic__> jeus
[08:08] <Twirl> mrclam: for that u need special IRC training, it took me 10 years
[08:08] <mrclam> Well damn
[08:08] <cristina_> lol
[08:08] <mrclam> that sux donky balls
[08:09] <Twirl> mrclam: what client are u using?
[08:09] <mrclam> xchat
[08:09] <hateball> !tab | mrclam
[08:09] <fabiobik> freeroute i dont belive that should work because its freezed
[08:10] <mrclam> oh like in bash
[08:10] <Twirl> mrclam: yea but dont tell anyone, we dont want this place filled with noobs
[08:10] <fabiobik> Its stuck even my capslock doesn't turn off
[08:10] <freeroute> fabiobik: I believe in many things as well, though rarely do they touch upon reality.
[08:10] <mrclam> hateball, Nice!
[08:10] <mrclam> I like that
[08:10] <cristina_> ejabberd and xchat it's the same? sorry for my ignorance
[08:11] <hateball> cristina_: ejabberd is an xmpp server, xchat is an IRC client
[08:11] <hateball> They are... not very alike
[08:11] <Twirl> im on pidgin, its the best, the only problem is that it doesnt keep the ignore list
[08:11] <cristina_> ok thx! :)
[08:11] <freeroute> Twirl: lol that should work wonders on #chan
[08:11] <cristina_> i'm starting now
[08:12] <cristina_> so i'm a little noob
[08:12] <Twirl> freeroute: i have ppl ignored in many channels but it goes away every time i close the program
[08:12] <fabiobik> freeroute: even my capslock dont turn off after the freeze
[08:13] <mrclam> ba haa
[08:14] <freeroute> fabiobik: ok but like... have you tried it?
[08:14] <mrclam> why are IP address showing up?
[08:14] <freeroute> fabiobik: saying that it won't work without trying it can become pretty depressing after a while bro.
[08:14] <mrclam> like demonlove
[08:15] <freeroute> fabiobik: if that doesn't work, then try another kernel. If it's not the kernel then it might be a hardware issue.
[08:15] <mrclam> Can you filter the chat?
[08:15] <freeroute> mrclam: what do you mean with filtering the chat?
[08:16] <fabiobik> freeroute i will try it latter. Right now im at the metro (no computer here)
[08:16] <freeroute> k, good luck.
[08:17] <fabiobik> freeroute: but how that command could help?  Get the error dump?
[08:17] <mrclam> well, can you filter who you see post?
[08:17] <freeroute> fabiobik: depends, there are many commands. Find the one that suits you.
[08:18] <freeroute> mrclam: not sure what you mean. For example when you put someone on the ignore list, you no longer see that user's posts.
[08:19] <fabiobik> freeroute: okay but you use it regularly? How you solve a smilar problem like me? You use that tool and then what?
[08:20] <freeroute> well I did a memory dump once when Chromium was hugging my computer.
[08:20] <demonlove> d
[08:21] <mrclam> like a firewall filter. To temporary filter the stream of output in the chat room
[08:21] <mrclam> freeroute,  like a firewall filter. To temporary filter the stream of output in the chat room
[08:21] <freeroute> not sure you can do that with xchat, but I think you can do that with more advanced clients like weechat or even hexchat if you like GUIs.
[08:28] <mrclam> freeroute, thanks
[08:29] <freeroute> np
[08:30] <fabiobik> freeroute for how long do you use ubuntu?
[08:32] <freeroute> fabiobik: probably like from 2010
[08:34] <fabiobik> freeroute: :-) youre a cool guy then
[08:35] <freeroute> well if the amount of time is a standard for being cool then I'm sure there are much more cooler people around here :p
[08:35] <fabiobik> And less cooler too :)
[08:35] <fauen> ^^,
[08:37] <RepThis1> Hey guys is there a way to show installed software like on fedoras package manager with dnf history?
[08:37] <fabiobik> I think synaptics package manager do that
[08:38] <fabiobik> With the history of whats being installed etc
[08:38] <RepThis1> fabiobik: im on a terminal, does it have easy terminal commands to do it?
[08:38] <fabiobik> As far as i know no. But im sure it exists
[08:39] <fabiobik> Did you asked to your best friend?
[08:40] <fabiobik> RepThis1: ?
[08:44] <somsip> RepThis1: dpkg --get-selections | grep install (IIRC)
[08:45] <RepThis1> somsip: unfortunately its in alphabetical order and without dates.
[08:45] <somsip> RepThis1: say what you want
[08:46] <sumit> hi
[08:46] <sumit> where i am?
[08:46] <somsip> !topic | sumit
[08:46] <hateball> RepThis1: you can read /var/log/apt/history*, there's no apt/dpkg command to show it otherwise that I am aware of
[08:47] <fabiobik> Well he could start by man dpkg
[08:49] <RepThis1> hateball: god damn thats alot of info and package information, will sudo apt-get --remove --purge get rid of all the stuff including unnecessary dependencies and child objects?
[08:50] <ftrhwk> RepThis1   cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "
[08:50] <hateball> RepThis1: you can run apt-get autoremove, to remove unneeded dependencies
[08:52] <RepThis1> hateball: wonder why thats not a default run option built into apt-get remove
[08:53] <RepThis1> hateball: thx though this is more helpful
[08:55] <somsip> RepThis1: it's always worth describing your end goal as often there is an easier way than the one you're used to (eg: fedora package manager)
[08:56] <raka> cek
[08:56] <raka> hallo
[08:59] <RepThis1> somsip: idk, fedoras dnf history is pretty slick, its already installed and requires only 1 switch. Even with these above commands it looks like it shows me dependencies instead of just the installed packages. I think it would be better to show just the installed software package first and then show the dependencies as an additonal option or in some tree structure pointing to an origin point.
[09:01] <somsip> RepThis1: there will be many people here who have no idea what Fedora's dnf history is. Hence the need to explain what you want.
[09:04] <vila> hi there, hitting a wall while attempting to upgrade my laptop from 15.04 to 15.10, after several bugs: update-manager -d is hanging with a python traceback and after telling me my system is unstable and it will try dpkg-reconfigure -a : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12875541
[09:09] <swenzel> 8 out of 10 times my pc doesn't start... any idea what this means? https://www.dropbox.com/s/8a357rjg9i52yfy/IMG_20151007_131516.jpg?dl=0
[09:12] <somsip> swenzel: what kernel are you running?
[09:13] <somsip> swenzel: uname -r (will show it)
[09:13] <swenzel> somsip: 3.13.0-66-generic
[09:13] <swenzel> ubuntu 14.04 x64
[09:14] <somsip> swenzel: Looks current - I'd suggest you raise a bug for it. Searches for similar bugs seem to show genuine issues, but no idea myself. Eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1450442
[09:14] <hateball> swenzel: /dev/dm-1 looks like a dmraid device, no?
[09:14] <hateball> which is throwing i/o-errors
[09:15] <swenzel> I have no raid set up
[09:15] <hateball> odd
[09:16] <hateball> swenzel: are you did not pick LVM during install?
[09:16] <hateball> I dunno if picking that in the gui automatically sets up dmraid as well
[09:18] <oboy> where can I get support for the Ubuntu Vagrant images? I cannot connet to the 15.10 image using vagrant ssh (no problem with other Ubuntu boxes)
[09:20] <swenzel> hateball: how do I find out what /dev/dm-1 is?
[09:21] <swenzel> No idea what the LVM thing means by the way
[09:22] <roflc0pt3r> Hey all, I've got ubuntu setup with networkManager, and I've got this weird Puppet in my resolv.conf, cant find anywhere how to remove it, can anyone shed some light
[09:22] <roflc0pt3r> thanks in advance
[09:28] <gtgo> hi, I am using ubuntu 14.04, on my desktop in the middle of lower half i can see a RED PIN, when i press on it it becomes round shape, I am not sure whats the usages of that, can any one please let me know, thank you...
[09:29] <oboy> could you post a sceenshot @gtgo?
[09:30] <gtgo> oboy, sure i can, but i dont know how to post the screenshot here..:(
[09:30] <oboy> post a link to the uploaded image
[09:31] <oboy> e.g. on bayimg
[09:32] <gtgo> oboy, ok, i just need few minutes
[09:32] <oboy> no need to hurry :)
[09:36] <swenzel> well, I'll try out ubuntu 15.10 next week... maybe that along with a competely new installation helps
[09:36] <cellofan> hello à tous
[09:36] <cellofan> il y a des francophones ici??
[09:38] <cellofan> hello I try now ubuntu studio
[09:38] <cellofan> new last version
[09:38] <cellofan> enjoy with your ubuntu
[09:38] <cellofan> :)
[09:38] <hateball> !fr | cellofan
[09:39] <cellofan> no problem i can  speak english ^^   thx hateball
[09:42] <cellofan> Are there was a person who knows a good stopmotion software with compatibility with Canon cameras? :)
[09:43] <cellofan> Type 600D, 550D etc ...
[09:44] <Anthaas> Is there a way to make sure whenever a program is run it runs as root?
[09:44] <mcphail> Anthaas: run it as root
[09:44] <mcphail> Anthaas: other methods are unreliable
[09:44] <mcphail> (at best)
[09:45] <Anthaas> What about moving the program outside of my path, creating a script inside the path sharing the same name as the program which only has "sudo program" in it?
[09:46] <mcphail> Anthaas: that won't run as root. It will still run as your user
[09:48] <mcphail> Anthaas: you'll still need a way to elveate your privileges to run the "real" program. Setuid is the traditional hack, but it is a major security risk and often ignored by the operating system
[09:48] <mcphail> Anthaas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[09:49] <artag> it's a bit unfair to say it's a major security risk. it's no worse than sudo (which is, of course, setuid itself). it just needs to be used carefully.
[09:50] <mcphail> artag: it is worse than sudo, as it is available to _any_ user.
[09:50] <artag> so is sudo, if suitably configured
[09:50] <mcphail> artag: misconfigured
[09:50] <hateball> cellofan: I am not entirely sure what you are looking to do, but perhaps digiKam can do it
[09:50] <artag> the point of setuid programs is that they have to police themselves. if they don't do that correctly, they can be security holes.
[09:51] <artag> that doesn't mean the feature is itself a security hole
[09:51] <mcphail> Anthaas: a traditional workaround is to pass a "message" from a user-level program to a root-level service which will then run the "real" program
[09:52] <hateball> cellofan: There is also darktable
[09:52] <gtgo> oboy, r u there?
[09:52] <oboy> yes but i got disconnected multiple times
[09:52] <mcphail> Anthaas: for example, you can set up an incrontab job for root which watches a user directory for a certain file. When the user creates that file in the directory, the incrontab job triggers the real program
[09:53] <oboy> have you already posted the screenshot?
[09:53] <gtgo> oboy, http://postimg.org/image/4c7jkwwfp/
[09:54] <gtgo> oboy, yes..here it is....http://postimg.org/image/4c7jkwwfp/
[09:55] <oboy> that's all you see on your desktop?
[09:55] <oboy> which applications are currently running?
[09:55] <gtgo> oboy, xchat and firefox
[09:56] <cellofan> hateball: thank you very much I will try ^^
[09:56] <Anthaas> Thanks guys!
[09:57] <gtgo> oboy, i just tried to post photo with only this part to, sorry if its not giving you complete idea, but that all i can see
[09:57] <fabio> Hello guys
[09:57] <oboy> have you cropped the screenshot or something? I cannot see anything besides the two red symbols and therfore do not know to which program they belong
[09:57] <fabio> how do i reinstall gnome-session-fallback? i'de reinstalled but its not complete (missing icons etc etc)
[09:58] <fabio> first of all i've apt-get purge gnome-*
[09:58] <gtgo> oboy, yes i have cropped and send you before after photos
[09:58] <fabio> after that ive apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[09:58] <oboy> what did you do prior to the appereance of those arefacts on your desktop?
[09:58] <fabio> but is it not the same way as before
[09:59] <gtgo> oboy,  it was always there but in a blurry way, once i moved my pointer on it i discovered it
[09:59] <oboy> sorry I really don't know what to make of that :/
[10:00] <gtgo> oboy, dont worry, thank you for ur suport, i will try to ask some body else
[10:12] <paupaupau> Hi. I have been trying to setup dual bot in my laptop (ubuntu 14.04 and Windows 8.1) and right now the computer doesn't boot. I get the error: "Insert system disk in drive. Press any key when ready." Last thing I did before this was using boot-repair, here is the report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12875802/
[10:13] <samssammerz> does anyone know what the bioset process is?
[10:14] <samssammerz> I can't find any documentation for it, and can't find any files called bioset when I run 'locate bioset'
[10:15] <noc__> hii
[10:15] <nchauvet> hello, is there a newer howto to build a kernel deb for precise based on the git repo ?
[10:16] <nchauvet> using git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-precise.git
[10:16] <noc__> any one is there
[10:16] <nchauvet> it currently fails at:
[10:16] <nchauvet> fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic
[10:16] <nchauvet> dh_testdir: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory
[10:17] <noc__> i want to study ubuntu
[10:18] <hateball> samssammerz: related to disk encryption afaik
[10:18] <noc__> hii greyback
[10:18] <noc__> how r u
[10:18] <cfhowlett> !manual | noc__ RTM
[10:19] <samssammerz> hateball, Thanks
[10:19] <noc__> how i wiil transfer file in root file
[10:19] <noc__> explain me
[10:19] <cfhowlett> www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads is also educational
[10:20] <noc__> ok
[10:20] <noc__> hii pascal
[10:21] <noc__> i want to know how to make a script in ubuntu
[10:21] <samssammerz> hateball, Ah, yes -- more generally, it seems to be related to block I/O  (hence the "bio" in bioset)
[10:21] <samssammerz> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=bioset
[10:21] <cfhowlett> noc__, read.  fullcirclemagazine has many articles for scripting and command line
[10:22] <noc__> ok bro
[10:23] <paupaupau> Hi. I have been trying to setup dual bot in my laptop (ubuntu 14.04 and Windows 8.1) and right now the computer doesn't boot. I get the error: "Insert system disk in drive. Press any key when ready." Last thing I did before this was using boot-repair, here is the report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12875802/
[10:24] <noc__> what is the first OS in your laptop
[10:24] <paupaupau> windows was installed first
[10:24] <paupaupau> right now none boots
[10:26] <noc__> which device u r using DVD/USB for your installation
[10:27] <paupaupau> usb
[10:27] <noc__> ok
[10:28] <noc__> i know .i face same problem
[10:28] <noc__> your windows was installed in ubuntu bro
[10:28] <noc__> your booting file was missing from your laptop i think
[10:28] <fabio> guys how can i install network manager without internet?
[10:29] <fabio> i've got a pen with ubunu installation
[10:29] <fabio> can i get the packages from there?
[10:29] <fabio> if yes how?
[10:30] <noc__> bro you have to configur network first
[10:30] <cfhowlett> fabio, network manager is included in all repos except .mini and .server IIRC
[10:30] <fabio> sure cfhowlett but is there a thing called purge
[10:31] <fabio> and i've use it to remove gnome desktop
[10:31] <fabio> and now i dont have net...
[10:31] <cfhowlett> fabio, ah.  see little details like that are helpful to have ... up front!
[10:31] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:31] <fabio> cfhowlett, i think you might be right :=
[10:31] <noc__> which type of network u r using
[10:32] <fabio> wifi
[10:32] <cfhowlett> fabio, OK, you still have a boot CD/USB, right?
[10:32] <fabio> cfhowlett, yes and right now im on live usb
[10:32] <cfhowlett> fabio, ah!  evern better!
[10:32] <fabio> cfhowlett, yey i thought its getting worse :)
[10:33] <cfhowlett> fabio, someone else will the details, but you can chroot and install the package to your HDD ubuntu.
[10:33] <noc__> u have to use PowerISO for USB
[10:33] <cfhowlett> noc__, false.
[10:33] <noc__> no bro
[10:34] <noc__> u have to use it
[10:34] <fabio> cfhowlett, thank you lord! but how do i use chroot ?
[10:34] <noc__> its work
[10:34] <fabio> cfhowlett, ok i know what will be your awnswer.... check man...
[10:34] <noc__> sudo su
[10:34] <cfhowlett> fabio, no.  sorry, that's why I stated someone else will know the details.
[10:35] <fabio> cfhowlett, know what? let me ask to my best friend
[10:35] <fabio> Google :)
[10:35] <noc__> no..
[10:36] <hateball> !chroot | fabio
[10:36] <noc__> i always use USB powerISO for installation
[10:36] <noc__> UBUNTU
[10:37] <fabio> hateball, now im confused
[10:37] <fabio> ....
[10:37] <fabio> i need to recover my network manager and im on live usb
[10:37] <noc__> ok
[10:37] <hateball> fabio: chroots are confusing
[10:38] <noc__> fabio .   how i will make a script in ubuntu
[10:38] <hateball> I am looking if there's some simple step-by-step guide to do what you need to do...
[10:38] <cfhowlett> fabio, I think you mount your ubuntu hdd, chroot to it from your USB then install your packages from ubuntu USB to HDD USB.  I *think* ...
[10:38] <fabio> hateball, thanks mate
[10:38] <paupaupau> Hi. I have been trying to setup dual bot in my laptop (ubuntu 14.04 and Windows 8.1) and right now the computer doesn't boot. I get the error: "Insert system disk in drive. Press any key when ready." Last thing I did before this was using boot-repair, here is the report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12875802/
[10:39] <inteus> fabio: check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/422928/how-to-reinstall-network-manager-without-internet-access
[10:39] <inteus> see if that helps
[10:43] <hateball> fabio: well, you could do "sudo apt-get -d network-manager", that would download the debs to /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:43] <hateball> fabio: and from there you should be able to copy them to your installed OS, and install them using dpkg -i
[10:44] <hateball> hmmm, perhaps it does not pull in caches of already installed packages
[10:47] <fabio> hateball, -d is a invalid option on apt-get
[10:47] <hateball> fabio: sorry, it's apt-get install -d
[10:49] <hateball> fabio: any reason you cant just plug in a network cable instead? that'd be way less headache :p
[10:49] <mohamed> can anyone help me to add wide invisible border for marco desktop manager on Ubuntu Mate 15.04 ?
[10:49] <fabio> hateball, i dont have that option
[10:49] <fabio> this is a intel compute stick
[10:49] <fabio> it only has wifi...
[10:50] <hateball> fabio: Ah :)
[10:52] <mohamed> can anyone help me to add wide invisible border for marco desktop manager on Ubuntu Mate 15.04 ? please :)
[10:52] <esph> Anybody know the actual executable name of the "UbuntuInstaller" mentioned on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation ?
[10:53] <tsp1> Can I make grub add the default kernel two times, but one with extra arguments?
[10:53] <SubMind> hello everyone I cannot manage to use a Ricoh Aficio GX3000 printer on a Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[10:53] <SubMind> any idea please ?
[10:54] <tsp1> SubMind: are you able to manage the printer in any other linux dist?
[10:55] <SubMind> did not try
[10:55] <tsp1> SubMind: http://forums.openprinting.org/read.php?30,2996
[10:56] <hateball> SubMind: how have you installed the printer? just plug and play? did you use drivers from ricoh or from the distro?
[10:56] <SubMind> there is no drivers for linux maybe thru vine ?
[10:56] <hateball> All you need is a PPD
[10:57] <hateball> And it can usually be extracted from Windows/Mac drivers
[10:58] <SubMind> hateball tsp1 thx
[11:00] <SubMind> hateball tsp1 http://support.ricoh.com/bb/html/dr_ut_e/re/model/gx300/gx300en.htm which one should I use
[11:00] <SubMind> ?*
[11:01] <stobix> Hi. do-release-upgrade just tried to update my system from 14.04 to 15.04, leaving me with a system with severely broken dependencies. How do I go around fixing this?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> stobix, nope.  release-upgrade would be 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04
[11:02] <jake9050> stobix: revert to backup (i hope you made one..)
[11:02] <stobix> cfhowlett: nope, that's not what it did.
[11:02] <cfhowlett> of COURSE he backed up!
[11:02] <stobix> haha, yeah, of COURSE i did. ;)
[11:03] <cfhowlett> stobix, then you didn't do-release-upgrade
[11:03] <jake9050> stobix: Was worth a try :-)
[11:03] <jake9050> stobix: What is broken?
[11:03] <stobix> cfhowlett: I was kinda surprised that it chose vivid, but it did.
[11:04] <stobix> jake9050: I can't upgrade anything. Want to see the output from apt-get install apt?
[11:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:04] <jake9050> stobix: sure
[11:07] <stobix> (hold on, generating pastebin entry)
[11:08] <paupaupau> Hi. I have been trying to setup dual bot in my laptop (ubuntu 14.04 and Windows 8.1) and right now the computer doesn't boot. I get the error: "Insert system disk in drive. Press any key when ready." Last thing I did before this was using boot-repair, here is the report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12875802/
[11:09] <stobix> http://pastebin.com/ftUHvU5p <-- here's the start of it
[11:10] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | paupaupau
[11:10] <stobix> The upgrade process halted after a while - seemlingly kinda soon.
[11:11] <stobix> I guess my problem here is that I'm used to having the gentoo level of control, and that I don't know how to go beyond "pedagogic" tools in debian systems yet.
[11:11] <hateball> SubMind: If you're still around, I'll upload the ppd to pastebin. It was a bit tricky fetching it from OS X package :)
[11:12] <BluesKaj> paupaupau, also get the new version of boot-repair
[11:12] <mcphail> stobix: whatever has happened, if your system has attempted to upgrade directly from 14.04 to 15.04 it is broken and unsupportable
[11:12] <cfhowlett> stobix, reinstall
[11:13] <stobix> heh. "unsupportable". Is that to say that no one has the competence to get this to a working state?
[11:13] <mcphail> stobix: no
[11:13] <mcphail> stobix: it means it will not be supported here
[11:13] <cfhowlett> stobix, it's saying you did some unorthodox operation to force 14.04 >>> 15.04 and we don't support that.
[11:14] <othysatc> hi every body, i'm new in the world ubuntu
[11:14] <cfhowlett> othysatc, greetings.  ask your ubuntu question.
[11:15] <stobix> Could you at least point me to where to start fixing the system? What do I need to learn?
[11:16] <mcphail> stobix: you need to reinstall
[11:16] <stobix> mcphail: no, I don't. This is not windows.
[11:16] <cfhowlett> stobix, reinstall.  or attempt to reverse whatever you did to bypass normal operations.
[11:18] <stobix> Huh. That's what I get from choosing a "pedagogic" distro, I guess.
[11:18] <mcphail> stobix: I admire your confidence, but fear it is misplaced here. Apt does not support rolling back. You should restore from a backup or snapshot or reinstall.
[11:18] <stobix> If I hadn't chosen to use an encrypted home partition, I wouldn't even be here.
[11:20] <stobix> Hm. Will "reinstalling" overwrite my home folder?
[11:20] <SubMind> hateball yep still here afk but still here
[11:20] <othysatc> my wifi does not work on ubuntu
[11:20] <othysatc> what to do?
[11:20] <mcphail> stobix: I'm not sure how it handles an encrypted $HOME. It doesn't overwrite an unencrypted home folder
[11:21] <mcphail> popey: ^^ do you know? You mentioned this yesterday...
[11:21] <cfhowlett> stobix,  if you have a dedicated and separate home, no.  if not, assume it will.  either way, you were going to back up first anyway, right?
[11:21] <BluesKaj> stobix, encyption is noy your problem . upgrading an existing OS by skipping a release doesn't work, it breaks your system, period
[11:21] <bazhang> !wifi | othysatc have a read here first
[11:22] <othysatc> thx
[11:22] <popey> mcphail: re-installing (if you un-tick format partition) won't format your home part
[11:22] <hateball> SubMind: http://pastebin.com/Z8R0L2AJ
[11:22] <mcphail> popey: what about an encrypted $HOME? Is that dealt with gracefully?
[11:23] <stobix> I'd imagine it forgets my encryption key.
[11:23] <hateball> SubMind: you can save that as a whatever.ppd, edit it and comment out (%) the lines with Library, as they point to binaries used on OS X. You should be able to manually add the printer and point to that PPD
[11:23] <popey> so did stobix do release upgrade and specified the "-d"?
[11:24] <stobix> hm. I first tried update-manager -d, but it stopped, complaining about not finding the sources it needed.
[11:24] <stobix> (when I selected "upgrade" in the gui, that is)
[11:24] <popey> stobix: are you able to boot the machine and do the usual "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[11:25] <popey> or does it no longer boot?
[11:25] <stobix> popey: If I try to reboot this machine, I probably won't be able to talk to you anymore. :)
[11:25] <mcphail> ha!
[11:25] <popey> stobix: you're talking to us from the half-upgraded machine?
[11:26] <stobix> yep.
[11:26] <popey> cool!
[11:26] <popey> thats good :)
[11:26] <popey> so have you tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and/or "sudo apt-get -f install" and maybe "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" (the hat is important)?
[11:26] <SubMind> hateball thankyou very much i'll try to do it right
[11:26] <stobix> popey: that I will
[11:27] <popey> while upgrades skipping releases aren't recommended, and may break, they're usually fixable with a bit of tlc
[11:28] <stobix> huh. dpkg --configure -a complains about dependencies not yet being configured, and ultimately shuts down in flames. Interesting.
[11:29] <stobix> same for the apt-get one
[11:29] <stobix> Maybe dpkg has some recursion limit to how many unconfigured dependencies it can handle?
[11:30] <popey> can you pastebin the full output from both?
[11:30] <stobix> will do
[11:33] <stobix> apt-get -f install : http://pastebin.com/xmEHFXJh
[11:34] <stobix> (that is, minus ~60 stderr messages of the form "No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already")
[11:38] <howardg> good day. does anyone remember the name of the package that prints system info and num.security upgrades as motd?
[11:38] <stobix> popey: here's dpkg --configure -a : http://pastebin.com/6G48MFY7
[11:39] <popey> ok
[11:39] <popey> stobix: so a lot of it is pending on udev... "sudo dpkg --configure udev" - what happens?
[11:40] <Imofftopic> hi
[11:40] <stobix> the least helpful message ever: (4 lines)
[11:40] <stobix> dpkg: error processing package udev (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:41] <stobix> Errors were encountered while processing: udev
[11:41] <Imofftopic> I'm looking to replace my current netbook
[11:41] <stobix> (ok, 2 lines)
[11:41] <Imofftopic> that is busted
[11:41] <cfhowlett> Imofftopic, check your channel.  this is ubuntu support.
[11:41] <Imofftopic> well i tried hardware first
[11:41] <Imofftopic> then linux
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Imofftopic, again: ubuntu support only here.  not hardware.
[11:42] <popey> stobix: this is gonna take quite some time I don't have right now. I'm sorry.
[11:43] <zzarr> happy 11'th birthday Ubuntu! :D
[11:43] <popey> stobix: it's fixable, but time consuming to do, and requires a bit of brute force
[11:44] <stobix> popey: could you kick me in the right direction? What man pages to read and whatnot?
[11:44]  * stobix likes brute force
[11:45] <popey> stobix: so essentially you have a big confusing list of broken packages, but there's probably one or two at the 'bottom' (architecturally speaking) which break all the others
[11:45] <popey> stobix: probably, fix those (probably udev/systemd) and the rest will slot in fine.
[11:47] <popey> stobix: the current problem is udev, postfix script dying - look at the postfix script in somewhere under /var/lib/dpkg - see what it's doing
[11:47] <zhang> sudo
[11:47] <popey> stobix: it may be you can manually run whatever the broken script is trying to do, and maybe that produces an error message which you can deal with
[11:47] <stobix> popey: ah.
[11:47]  * stobix goes off to do some rtfs
[11:47] <zhang> ok
[11:47] <popey> stobix: once you get udev in, move to "dpkg --configure -a" and see which one fails next
[11:47] <popey> stobix: and so on :)
[11:47] <stobix> :)
[11:47] <stobix> nice, thanks
[11:47] <popey> np
[11:48] <popey> sorry I don't have more time to help
[11:48] <zhang> nishi shei
[11:48] <zhang> ubuntu
[11:48] <zhang> zhang
[11:48]  * popey thinks we should have a step by step guide for fixing these kinds of things
[11:48] <stobix> popey: np, you've already helped a lot. :)
[11:48] <bazhang> !cn | zhang
[11:48] <lx> liu
[11:48] <zhang> where are you
[11:48]  * stobix thinks so too. No real benefit in keeping users in the dark.
[11:48] <lx> meinv
[11:48] <lx> zaina
[11:48] <zhang> woshi zhangjicheng
[11:48] <lx> yuebu
[11:48] <bazhang> zhang this is ubuntu support do you have a support question
[11:49] <zhang> nimen kuai kuai bao shang ming lai
[11:49] <lx> zhangjiacheng sb
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !cn | zhang
[11:49] <lx> zhangjiacheng sb
[11:49] <zhang> liu jia zheng sha
[11:49] <bazhang> lx zhang please ubuntu support only here in english
[11:49] <lx> helloe
[11:50] <lx> lx
[11:50] <lx> x
[11:50] <lx> x
[11:50] <lx> x
[11:50] <lx> x
[11:50] <lx> x
[11:50] <stobix> wo bu shi dao zhong wen [I don'ta knowa the chinese]
[11:50] <bazhang> stobix, lets stay on topic please, its over
[11:51] <A1F4> zig zan go !
[11:51] <stobix> heh. sorry.
[11:52] <jake9050> stobix: sorry for the delay - working duties come first :-) - you can try "fixing" apt like this https://gist.github.com/jake9050/a3512f3b81237e1511f0
[11:55] <lxzhangjiacheng> capyingchun
[11:55] <lxzhangjiacheng> caoyingchun
[11:55] <lxzhangjiacheng> '
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !cn | lxzhangjiacheng,
[11:56] <lx123> 123
[11:56] <zhang> zanghongyun sb
[11:56] <knob> Good morning!
[11:56] <zhang> sb zanghongyun
[11:56] <freeroute> test
[11:56] <bazhang> yep
[11:56] <freeroute> great, thanks!
[11:56] <zhang> ni hao
[11:56] <zhang> meinv
[11:56] <lx123> join #ubuntu-cn
[11:57] <lxzhangjiacheng> gkl
[11:57] <lxzhangjiacheng> ghg
[11:57] <freeroute> Protip time: Have your virtualbox snapshotted at this stage of the minimal expert install - http://i.imgur.com/p4fkNBL.png - from here on you can basically make any Ubuntu flavor you want :)
[11:57] <lxzhangjiacheng> shuizaiyongzanghongyun
[11:57] <lx123> dashabi zanghongyun
[11:57] <freeroute> even if you don't want the full Xubuntu experience, you can choose to install a Xubuntu desktop without the apps.
[11:57] <lx123> hello
[11:58] <jake9050> stobix: from what i see in the paste you provided is starts with udev being unconfigured and that starts breaking  a handful of other installs, and so on
[11:58] <lx123> dashabi zanghongyun
[11:59] <stobix> jake9050: nice, thanks.
[12:00] <stobix> jake9050: would a system with udev uninstalled still function long enough for it to be reinstalled?
[12:02]  * stobix does some backup'ing before continuing
[12:02] <jake9050> stobix: I would'nt rely on it. Make backups of your data first now that you stoill have access to it without having to mess with live distro's
[12:02] <jake9050> stobix: haha telepathy :)à
[12:03] <stobix> :)
[12:04] <mcphail> stobix: you can usually remove udev (briefly) without bad consequences
[12:04] <zhang> haha
[12:04] <ghc> sha
[12:04] <zhang> nishi
[12:04] <zhang> shshshshs
[12:07] <mcphail> stobix: although, I would point out a full reinstall would have been completed by now ;)
[12:09] <stobix> mcphail: I would also have gained zero insight into the apt system and would probably have lost my home partition.
[12:09] <stobix> ;)
[12:09] <mcphail> ha!
[12:15] <freeroute> vbox cloning feature = awesome!
[12:15] <freeroute> experiment with ALL the software packages :D
[12:17] <uupz> good morning!
[12:17] <uupz> i have a quetion, if i want to run another windows manager, for instance, fluxbox, would i have to download and install something else like X?
[12:18] <uupz> it seems like a windows manager cannot run without something else like right now im running unity but its on top of compiz.  what is unity and what is compiz
[12:18] <uupz> unity is a windows manager and compiz is a desktop manager?
[12:19] <stobix> uupz: just install fluxbox and go with it.
[12:20] <stobix> uupz: most window managers have no need for "graphics accelerators" like compiz.
[12:20] <stobix> (or, rather, they're independent-ish)
[12:20] <uupz> thanks a lot :)
[12:21] <uupz> what do you use?
[12:22] <mcphail> uupz: I tend to install openbox, and can pick between openbox and Unity at the login screen by clicking on the icon to the right of my name
[12:22] <uupz> yeah i like unity, it's just that its not as fast as i'd like on my laptop
[12:23]  * stobix mainly uses xmonad, but has ~7 WM's/DM's installed
[12:23] <uupz> i've heard that ubuntu has a fluxbuntu or something
[12:23] <stobix> uupz: if you like the desktop manager approach, maybe xfce, "xubuntu" would be something that would suit you
[12:24] <uupz> xubuntu
[12:24] <uupz> so the difference between ubuntu and xbuntu is the use of XFCe instead of unity?
[12:25] <saleem> !nvidia
[12:25] <stobix> yeah, basically.
[12:25] <uupz> do i have to basically reinstall xubuntu to replace ubuntu?
[12:26] <stobix> nope
[12:26] <TheOnlyJoey> Good day, i want to install a package that seem to be marked as "extra package" so it will not install unless i install another package (which is weird)
[12:26] <stobix> just install xubuntu-desktop IIRC
[12:26] <mcphail> uupz: no. Just "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[12:26] <TheOnlyJoey> any option to force the intstalation of that package?
[12:26] <uupz> thanks guys, have a great morning
[12:26] <Ben64> TheOnlyJoey: what package
[12:26] <cfhowlett> uupz, sudo apt install xfce4 will grab the desktop environent
[12:26] <cfhowlett> environment*
[12:26] <TheOnlyJoey> Ben64, in this case a package from a repository (obs-studio) but i had this problem with multiple ones over the last months
[12:27] <Ben64> TheOnlyJoey: not from ubuntu?
[12:27] <TheOnlyJoey> yes from ubuntu
[12:27] <cfhowlett> obs-studio?  that is not an ubuntu repo
[12:27] <TheOnlyJoey> ah the obs-studio one i am installing now is from a ppa
[12:27] <TheOnlyJoey> but i had this problem a couple of times with packages from ubuntu repo as well
[12:28] <TheOnlyJoey> though i can not remember what those packages were
[12:28] <stobix> cfhowlett: is that still true, though? IIRC, xfce4 stopped being a package in favour of "xubuntu-desktop" a while ago.
[12:28] <TheOnlyJoey> hence me wanting to find out how i can force instalation anyway
[12:28] <Ben64> TheOnlyJoey: would need to see the error
[12:28] <mcphail> stobix: "xubuntu-desktop" also pulls in all the xubuntu customisations, but you can install the plain package if you prefer
[12:28] <TheOnlyJoey> Ben64, well there is no error
[12:29] <cfhowlett> stobix, xubuntu-desktop is the DE and distro packages.  xfce4 = DE only
[12:29] <Ben64> TheOnlyJoey: so there isn't a problem
[12:29] <TheOnlyJoey> The following extra packages will be installed:
[12:29] <TheOnlyJoey>   obs-studio
[12:29] <TheOnlyJoey> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:29] <TheOnlyJoey> and then nothing
[12:29] <Ben64> we can't help with non-ubuntu packages/repositories
[12:29] <stobix> mcphail: nice. I thought that option was gone.
[12:29] <TheOnlyJoey> Ben64, as i mentioned before, i had this problem with multiple packages over the last months, some from the ubuntu repo
[12:30] <Ben64> but you can't provide any details
[12:30] <TheOnlyJoey> i could trigger installation by installing a other package with it
[12:31] <TheOnlyJoey> fsck it im going back to debian, ubuntu is losing it anyway
[12:35] <MadLamb> Can someone tell me a way to set up something in path without using bash profile file?
[12:36] <freeroute> http://i.imgur.com/2pB6dbD.png - KDE... not even full desktop :D
[12:36] <Ben64> MadLamb: PATH="/path/to/path:$PATH"
[12:36] <stobix> heh, has anyone else played around with having multiple pointers with xinput? :) I'm kinda thinking of forking my WM to support it.
[12:38] <MadLamb> Ben64, without export?
[12:38] <Ben64> MadLamb: sure
[12:38] <MadLamb> Ben64, I was trying export PATH=$PATH:...
[12:39] <Diplomat> Hey guys.. I have a little issue. The disk drive for /username/dev is not ready yet or not present. So when I click on S to skip it.. I'll be able to log in, but it just gets stuck after that and doesn't load any menus or anything
[12:39] <MadLamb> Ben64, but then since i'm using docker the next layer doesnt have the path anymore
[12:39] <Ben64> depends what you're actually trying to do though
[12:39] <MadLamb> Ben64, I want it to be available globally in sh and bash
[12:39] <InfoTest> how to set password directly in shell command? (avoiding prompt)
[12:40] <MadLamb> InfoTest, it depends on the command, usually -pPASSWORD
[12:40] <InfoTest> MadLamb: thanks
[12:42] <ventus> hh
[12:46] <MadLamb> how can I append something to /etc/environment?
[12:52] <Jaglor> What common XMPP servers are people successfully deploying on ubuntu?  Bonus points for stupid simple.  :D
[12:55] <freeroute> MadLamb: echo "something" >> /etc/environment ?
[12:55] <freeroute> Jaglor: does Mumble count?
[12:56] <stobix> Jaglor: ejabberd?
[12:57] <Teachmehow> Hi all =)
[12:57] <uupz> ahh yes
[12:57] <uupz> xubuntu, much faster
[12:58] <Jaglor> freeroute: I'll have to check. I haven't looked at mumble.. stobix yes, that's the type of server.. just not sure if a particular implementation has gained traction
[12:59] <Teachmehow> When i boot ubuntu, i t gets stuck at 'grub>' console.. what do i do?
[13:00] <Teachmehow> When i boot ubuntu, i t gets stuck at 'grub>' console.. what do i do?
[13:00] <Teachmehow> When i boot ubuntu, i t gets stuck at 'grub>' console.. what do i do?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !patience | Teachmehow
[13:00] <Teachmehow> cfhowlett: sorry.
[13:00] <saleem> i cant install any of non-free nvidia drivers on trusty due to missing dependencies why is that ?
[13:00] <Teachmehow> ubottu: oh. didnt knew that
[13:01] <Teachmehow> ubottu: seriously? O.o
[13:02] <saleem> http://pastie.org/10495171
[13:02] <stobix> uupz: welcome to the "dark" side. ;)
[13:02] <saleem> can someone help me fix this issue?
[13:02] <stobix> (or, light side, as it were)
[13:06] <uupz> Teachmehow, i was stuck on a grub screen, i ended up reinstalling my OS but i had a corrupted file system as well..
[13:06] <Teachmehow> ?
[13:06] <Teachmehow> uupz: Then what did you do next>
[13:07] <uupz> hold on let me find the guide i read
[13:07] <Teachmehow> uupz: okay
[13:07] <uupz> so what were you doin that made it pop into that mode?
[13:07] <Teachmehow> uupz: let me tell you the whole story :D
[13:07] <uupz> lol ok
[13:08] <Teachmehow> uupz: My pc = Acer Aspire E 15. It had windows 10 installed then i dual booted Ubuntu. Till now, all good. Then i again installed Kali (triple boot :P) and during the setup i overwrote the Master Boot Record to the third partition of my hard drive.
[13:09] <Teachmehow> uupz: Now, when i boot windows i get blank screen, when i boot ubuntu i get grub console and only kali works
[13:09] <uupz> sorta what happened to me too
[13:09] <uupz> lol
[13:09] <uupz> ok give me a second
[13:09] <uupz> i'm not an ubuntu master like sme of these guys, but ive had a similiar problem and maybe i can guide you into the right direction
[13:09] <Teachmehow> uupz: And Kali only runs on Legacy mode and Windows and Ubuntu only runs on UEFI mode on the BIOS setting
[13:10] <Teachmehow> uupz: been two days. I've been looking for someone like you :D
[13:11] <stobix> Hmm.... "Kali Linux | Penetration Testing and Ethical Hacking Linux" <-- Linux to help you get laid?
[13:11] <Teachmehow> stobix:  :v
[13:13] <freeroute> stobix: or to know where to use the axe responsibly.
[13:15] <Teachmehow> uupz: you triple booted too? :P
[13:16] <Teachmehow> test
[13:17] <uupz> Teachmehow, yup i dont know why lol
[13:17] <uupz> now i just use ubuntu
[13:17] <uupz> to be honest i've used windows all my life, i used linux very very few times just to see what it was all about
[13:17] <Teachmehow> uupz: damn. i need to get windows any way lol
[13:17] <uupz> but i didn't like it because in order to install one program you had to have a guide and 10 different commands
[13:18] <Teachmehow> uupz: so how many os do you run currently?
[13:18] <uupz> it's like for me to install something on linux took 30min and digging around the net to solve problems, whereas on windows it takes 5min
[13:18] <OnceMe> can someone help me with the problem I have for a year now
[13:18] <uupz> right now, 1
[13:18] <uupz> ubuntu
[13:18] <OnceMe> this one /efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi not found
[13:18] <OnceMe> I have weird partitioned, gpt uefi mfi mbr
[13:18] <OnceMe> everything is messed up
[13:18] <uupz> Teachmehow, i had the same problem i started messing with my partitions and not knowing what i was doing so it corrupted my file system
[13:18] <OnceMe> how to fix this?
[13:19] <OnceMe> I simply want to be able to login in windows from grub
[13:19] <OnceMe> ubuntu works fine
[13:19] <uupz> not saying you don't know what you are doing, lol but i certainly had no clue
[13:19] <Teachmehow> uupz: i am afraid to fix it lol because i am a begginer and i am afraid that i might mess things up
[13:19] <Teachmehow> uupz: let me explain my problem in brief in PM :P
[13:19] <uupz> well try this, get the live cd or put it on a usb howeber you did it and see if you can repair it
[13:20] <uupz> ok
[13:20] <Teachmehow> uupz: i do have ubuntus live cd :D
[13:20] <OnceMe> also ls -al /boot/efi
[13:20] <OnceMe> total 8
[13:20] <OnceMe> drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr  5  2014 .
[13:20] <OnceMe> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Oct 20 11:13 ..
[13:20] <Teachmehow> *usb
[13:20] <OnceMe> my /boot/efi is fully empt
[13:20] <cfhowlett> virtualbox for the win.  no need to partition your primary system or reconfigure your bootloader
[13:20] <OnceMe> pls someone help me
[13:21] <Teachmehow> uupz: check msg :)
[13:22] <przemytriel> any monitoring tool for nagios? like nagstamon?
[13:23]  * dcarrie waves, tests
[13:23] <cfhowlett> przemytriel, perhaps ask #ubuntu-server or #linux
[13:24] <przemytriel> cfhowlett: thank you
[13:24] <dbugger> Hello everyone. I just reinstalled ca-certificates-java and now Android Studio wont open. Do I need to restart my system? Or is there another way to get it open?
[13:24] <stobix> freeroute: hehe, yep. :)
[13:24] <jpds> przemytriel: https://twitter.com/sadserver/status/636300127435493376
[13:25] <OnceMe> .
[13:25] <OnceMe> can someone help me pls
[13:25] <OnceMe> I am sad
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !patience | OnceMe,
[13:26] <OnceMe> I am ignored
[13:26] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, not yet.  if you abuse the channel, you will be
[13:26] <OnceMe> how to abuse
[13:26] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, ask every 15 minutes.  no ore
[13:26] <cfhowlett> No more
[13:30] <uupz> OnceMe, what windows do you have
[13:30] <dcarrie> Anybody have a good link for using dejagnu?
[13:31] <freeroute> ok... suppose I pause my vbox VM during this - http://i.imgur.com/2pB6dbD.png - would it continue downloading if I unpause it?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> freeroute, you might need to reinitialize the download
[13:32] <freeroute> oh god no
[13:32] <dbugger> freeroute, Go forth, and test it :)
[13:33] <cfhowlett> freeroute, what are you dl'ing?
[13:33] <freeroute> dbugger: I will if you help me find a time machine function of this VM :p
[13:33] <freeroute> cfhowlett: KDE minimal desktop :D
[13:33] <dbugger> freeroute, if you can wait until tomorrow, you can ask Martin McFly
[13:34] <freeroute> really? Do you think I have enough Jiggawatts to be able to do that? :O
[13:35] <cfhowlett> freeroute, you might find it more sensible to torrent kubuntu
[13:35] <dbugger> Sure, he is coming with the model that has "Mr. Fusion"
[13:36] <freeroute> cfhowlett: yeah I guess. I just wanted to have basically the Plasma desktop without all the apps.
[13:36] <cfhowlett> kde-plasma
[13:36] <freeroute> yeah
[13:36] <freeroute> that's what I'm installing atm
[13:37] <Gaulouis> Hello, I'am Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty user, and i would like to compile the laste version of mysql-wokbench 6.3 - I take the error libgdal-dev depend on libgdal1h and will not be installed
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !info kde-plasma-desktop
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !info kde-plasma-desktop trusty
[13:38] <freeroute> cfhowlett: oh hmm interesting. I am installing it on 15.04 mini install.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> freeroute, still seems like 1000+ packages is excessive
[13:39] <freeroute> hmm
[13:39] <OnceMe> uupz:8
[13:39] <freeroute> you're essentially starting out with zero packages though (because of the netinstall)
[13:40] <cfhowlett> that must be it.  don't know your use case, but torrent has saved my sanity more than once.
[13:40] <BluesKaj> and the fact that kde/plsama's flexibility requires more software
[13:40] <uupz> OnceMe, try running the command sudo update-grub   hopefully it lists windows in the output.  if it does, it automatically will add to the grub menu
[13:40] <BluesKaj> plasma even
[13:41] <OnceMe> uupz:I have windows 8 in boot menu entry in grub
[13:41] <OnceMe> but its not starting
[13:41] <OnceMe> also I tried update-grub months ago and it didnt fixed
[13:41] <OnceMe> but wait I can switch to my laptop
[13:41] <OnceMe> so I can restart PC from here so I tell u whats happening
[13:42] <demonlove> ya
[13:43] <freeroute> cfhowlett: but it's not possible to install KDE without the applications using torrent right?
[13:43] <Teachmehow> Should i be able to boot into Ubuntu to use the repair disk?
[13:43] <Teachmehow> *boot-repair disk
[13:43] <freeroute> Teachmehow: depends what you want to do
[13:43] <cfhowlett> freeroute, nope.  sorry.  torrent would be an all-in-one solution to what I assume you're after: kubuntu
[13:43] <OnceMe> ok sudo update-grub runned uupz
[13:44] <OnceMe> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[13:44] <OnceMe> done
[13:44] <Teachmehow> freeroute: like?
[13:44] <OnceMe> restarting..
[13:44] <Teachmehow> freeroute: i only get the grub console while i boot into ubuntu. I want to fix it
[13:44] <Teachmehow> freeroute: will it work in that scenario?
[13:44] <OnceMe> I have in grub "Ubuntu" "Advanced options for Ubuntu" "System Setup" Windows 8"
[13:45] <OnceMe> clicking on Windows 8 give sme: error: unknown filesystem
[13:45] <OnceMe> press anytype to continue
[13:45] <OnceMe> when I hit "c" and type exit
[13:45] <OnceMe> I get grub in smaller resolution and when I choose windows 8 again I get /efi/boot/microsoft/boot.... not found
[13:45] <freeroute> Teachmehow: in that case from the top of my head you have to repair grub - https://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows
[13:45] <OnceMe> so two different errors for the same win 8, what to do uupz? any ideas?
[13:46] <freeroute> cfhowlett: right, but as I said I wanted the KDE without all the applications it comes with :p
[13:46] <Teachmehow> freeroute: thnx :)
[13:46] <freeroute> np
[13:46] <OnceMe> Teachmehow:repair-boot will not help in this case
[13:46] <cfhowlett> freeroute, ah, then that is NOT kubuntu.  let me look again
[13:46] <OnceMe> if you were refrering to me
[13:46] <Teachmehow> OnceMe: Thanks for letting me know :D
[13:46] <Gaulouis> Hello, can i ask a question about apt-get install libgdal-dev ?
[13:47] <OnceMe> what to do
[13:47] <Gaulouis> I'am Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty user, and i would like to compile the laste version of mysql-wokbench 6.3 - I take the error libgdal-dev depend on libgdal1h and will not be installed
[13:47] <Gaulouis> How can i fix this error please ?
[13:47] <OnceMe> uupz:?
[13:48] <fireburna> hi there, is there anyone who is deep into indicators?
[13:48] <uupz> OnceMe, you are booting with UEFI?
[13:49] <OnceMe> tbh I dont know
[13:49] <OnceMe> its gnu grub 2.00-19ubuntu2.1
[13:49] <OnceMe> I have 64bit ubuntu 14
[13:49] <OnceMe> You can tell me what t owrite and I can paste you output :)
[13:50] <OnceMe> no problem uupz
[13:50] <uupz> give me one second
[13:50] <OnceMe> ok
[13:51] <OnceMe> Im in ubuntu again ;)
[13:55] <OnceMe> -.-
[13:58] <freeroute> cfhowlett: it finally downloaded yay :D
[13:58] <cfhowlett> freeroute, :)
[13:59] <dcarrie> anybody here familiar with dejagnu?
[13:59] <OnceMe> help me yall
[14:02] <c0m0> why I cannot set the soft limit for core in limits.conf
[14:02] <c0m0> ?
[14:02] <OnceMe> cfhowlett:got anything for me
[14:03] <iffraff3> Hi, I have ubuntu running on a macbook pro on it's own partition with 32 gig swap file.  When I close the screen it hangs and I can't get back in without a hard reboot.  I have set all the switches I know about.  this has happened on 14.04 14.10 15.04 and now 15.10
[14:08] <darknote> hello everyone
[14:10] <darknote> how can I get dns record on ubuntu from terminal?
[14:10] <demonlove> sala chutia
[14:10] <Pici> darknote: dig something.com
[14:19] <vcoinminer> hi. what is the possible reason that showing [UFW BLOCK] in syslog while I've set "allow from" everything from that ip.
[14:19] <freeroute> Another protip: When doing a link-only clone of a Vbox snapshot... DON'T REMOVE THE SNAPSHOT IF YOU WANT TO USE THE CLONE!!!
[14:27] <saleem> hi, can someone guide me how to fix nvidia non-free drivers installation issue on trusty tahr? http://pastie.org/10495371
[14:27] <saleem> i cant install any of non-free drivers due to missing dependencies
[14:29] <lasko> I've got a system and I'm having some issues trying to track down whats using up so much space. df -h says there is 12GB on the disk, and that 11GB have been used, but I can't find anything thats using more than 100MB of space. Thoughts?
[14:31] <bekks> lasko: Just use df -sh
[14:33] <lasko> bekks, do you mean df -h?
[14:33] <bekks> lasko: No. I wrote df -sh
[14:33] <Pici> lasko: ncdu is very helpful too (you'll need to install it from the repositories  though)
[14:33] <lasko> df has no -s flag
[14:34] <bekks> lasko: du -sh :D
[14:34] <lasko> ;)
[14:34] <bekks> Sorry :)
[14:34] <lasko> bekks, So when I do df -sh /   it only find 2.7G of things compares to the 12G it supposedly has
[14:35] <lasko> df shows -- /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root   12G   11G  268M  98% /
[14:35] <lasko> but du -sh shows 2.7G in /
[14:35] <bekks> lasko: cd /; du -sh *
[14:35] <fireburna> well maybe your installed applications need that 11GB
[14:36] <DammitJim> what do I need to do to disable automatic critical updates?
[14:36] <lasko> bekks, yeah even then the largest thing is /usr which has 1.2G used.
[14:36] <DammitJim> I have been creating Ubuntu servers with the automatic critical updates configuration and I am having problems with the boot partition getting full
[14:36] <DammitJim> by the time I come back to check on the server, the machine won't boot if I reboot it
[14:37] <DammitJim> or we loose power, etc
[14:37] <apoorv> ps aux|grep apt  help with the command
[14:37] <freeroute> ok, so during minimal expert install of 15.04, when during software selection I go to "Manual selection" aptitude says that it could not resolve dependencies. How can I check which dependencies it means?
[14:39] <fireburna> @DammitJim maybe delet some of the old kernel images in /boot
[14:40] <DammitJim> fireburna, that's what I've done in the past, but if I don't delete them before the server reboots, the server won't boot up next time
[14:40] <fireburna> ,
[14:40] <DammitJim> then you have to go through the mess of booting from cd, etc
[14:41] <DammitJim> how does one disable automatic critical updates?
[14:41] <fireburna> maybe write a script to regularily delete the old kernbel images
[14:41] <freeroute> DammitJim: you can hold a certain package - https://askubuntu.com/questions/18654/how-to-prevent-updating-of-a-specific-package
[14:42] <DammitJim> thanks for the suggestions guys. I really appreciate it, but that doesn't answer my question
[14:43] <DammitJim> I guess I'll keep googling it
[14:43] <fireburna> @ does synaptic give any optrion for disabling?
[14:43] <DammitJim> no GUI here
[14:44] <unni> hai
[14:44] <fireburna> okay, sorry, then I can'tr help you further
[14:44] <lasko> bekks, So I just rebooted the box and suddenly 8GB of space was free'd up.
[14:44] <unni> is 2 gb ram helpful for ubuntu 15
[14:45] <lasko> bekks but where that 8GB was at.. I haven't a clue
[14:45] <lasko> I've got another machine here with the same symptoms
[14:45] <freeroute> DammitJim: how about http://ask.xmodulo.com/disable-automatic-updates-ubuntu.html ?
[14:45] <fireburna> @unni, I would rather install Lubuntu then
[14:46] <freeroute> DammitJim: do you have the "unattended-upgrades" package ?
[14:46] <DammitJim> thanks freeroute !
[14:46] <DammitJim> I had just come across that site
[14:46] <freeroute> np
[14:46] <DammitJim> I guess all I need to do is comment out the security line
[14:47] <lasko> I'm so lost fml...
[14:47] <unni> now i am using xubuntu...but lubuntu or xubuntu is better for mr?
[14:47] <DammitJim> I wonder how I can do this programmatically for all my servers.. that's a different question :D thanks
[14:49] <fireburna> unni  Lubuntu is little better for slow hardware, but xubvuntu should be fine to
[14:49] <unni> tnx fireburna.....
[14:50] <Guest88463> Hi all, anyone for helping me fixing xp-615 printer (epson) on ubuntu 14.04  http://pastebin.com/wsXKbwcV
[14:54] <manyhands> Ubuntu Comunity Q&A live in 5 min on http://ubuntuonair.com/
[14:56] <unni> please help...while i was installing xubuntu i forgot to mark my 2 ntfs partition.so i am missing those drive after instalation.how i regain those  drive
[14:57] <lasko> Anyone have any more ideas on my issue? I've got a 12G disk, and something is using up 11G of space... Largest thing I can find is the /usr directory which is using 1.2G of space. Everything else is small
[14:57] <freeroute> manyhands: awesome!
[14:57] <lasko> I've got 2 servers with this issue, and I rebooted the first one, and suddenly 8GB were free'd up.... Is there some kind of hidden cache I'm not aware of?
[14:57] <bekks> lasko: cd /; du -sh *
[14:58] <manyhands> freeroute: yep, nice! :)
[14:58] <lasko> bekks, I did that
[14:58] <bekks> lasko: Can you pastebin the output?
[14:58] <manyhands> Ubuntu Comunity Q&A live in 2 minutes on http://ubuntuonair.com/ #ubuntu-on-air
[14:58] <lasko> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12877278/
[14:59] <bekks> lasko: And whats the output of df -i ?
[15:00] <lasko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12877289/
[15:00] <Guest88463> Hi, anyone to help for a printer ? Thanks http://pastebin.com/k2FeY4qp
[15:03] <lasko> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12877289/
[15:03] <bekks> lasko: and ls -lha / shows no obvious space hogs?
[15:03] <lasko> bekks, nope :(
[15:04] <lasko> bekks, But if I reboot... I'll suddenly gain 8GB back.
[15:04] <lasko> bekks, Which says to me its something temporary
[15:04] <bekks> lasko: Then an still open file was deleted, and the space is regained when the file lock is gone.
[15:05] <lasko> bekks, hmm... so maybe something like a log file?
[15:06] <bekks> lasko: Yes, maybe.
[15:06] <lasko> bekks, I've got a cronjob that basically tars up all my log files and rsyncs them to another server.
[15:07] <lasko> bekks, and that tar command uses --remove-files
[15:07] <lasko> bekks, Is there a way to verify if its open? And if there a way for me to clear the lock cleanly?
[15:07] <bekks> lasko: Which obviously imposes that behaviour. Tar doesnt care about these logs being in use.
[15:08] <bekks> lasko: Use logrotate, and tar up / transfer the rotated logs only, not the ones being in use.
[15:12] <jmitchell> Hello, is there anyone around who can help me with a 14.04 bare metal install that started freezing last night?
[15:13] <Wug> jmitchell: what do the logs say
[15:13] <Wug> and can you make it freeze whenever you want, or was it just the once/is it random
[15:14] <Wug> (in my experience ubuntu does not handle being low on memory very well)
[15:14] <Wug> perhaps check if you're resource starved
[15:14] <jmitchell> Wug, I am booting it up now, not sure which logs will contain information. I have not had much succcess finding any crash info in a log. It seems to happen when I am trying to transfer files to it over Samba.
[15:15] <Gaulouis> Thanks. Have a good day
[15:15] <roxlu> Hi I'm trying to update my packages but I'm getting a "no space left" error in my boot partition. Like https://gist.github.com/roxlu/2f4c9088fe02af8a541b#file-gistfile1-txt-L40  I googled and some tell me that I need to execute "apt-get -y purge old-package", but even when I try to execute that I get this error:  https://gist.github.com/roxlu/4793b91edddc7a24c348  Does someone knows what I can do to fix this?
[15:15] <jmitchell> That is a good point, I have a screenshot I took with my phone that seems to indicate a possible memory problem. It has 8GB RAM and I am running a VM with 6GB allocated to it.
[15:16] <Wug> jmitchell: yeah, VMs take more memory than you actually allocate them, there is a fair bit of overhead (20-30% is normal)
[15:17] <Wug> if you can stand running it at 4GB, try doing that, that should leave you enough
[15:19] <parents> test
[15:20] <dexter__> Hey guys, installed Ubuntu 14.04; going back from 15.04 and having trouble installing. Although the system is installed right now, the bootloader is on the wrong drive. Any ideas?
[15:20] <Wug> roxlu: your /boot partition is full. You should look through it with a file browser and ensure that there isn't anything there that shouldn't be (/boot is for bootloader config, EFI stuff, linux kernel images, and basically nothing else). If you can't find anything to remove, consider expanding the partition
[15:20] <jmitchell> Wug, that makes sense. The VM is running 3 Minecraft servers which were all idle at the time. I can certainly shut one down and reduce memory usage. Something to keep in mind is that I have been running this configuration for about 6 months - I had the VM at 4GB prior to that, adding the third minecraft server about then. Currently it is using 4 out of 7.7 available according to htop. The only other thing different between last nigh
[15:20] <jmitchell> t and this morning was that I was watching a video over samba that was stored on that machine.
[15:21] <jmitchell> Wug, which log(s) would tell me what was happening when it locked up?
[15:21] <Wug> jmitchell: there may be something in syslog about it (try searching for 'memory' or 'oom')
[15:22] <Wug> but given the poor handling I've observed, it wouldn't surprise me if there was no log message about it
[15:22] <roxlu> Wug thanks, I see there are some outdated kernel headers and images. I'm trying to remote them using apg-get autoremove (and -f), but that gives me the same error again
[15:22] <Wug> roxlu: what happens if you try apt-get upgrade -f like it says, does it give you the same error about /boot being full?
[15:23] <roxlu> Yes
[15:23] <roxlu> Wug this is what I get when I do: apt-get -f autoremove: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/roxlu/33953a58d1dd774fa1d2/raw/ba1e117749763f2f3905ce81d759cac17d85bdc9/gistfile1.txt
[15:23] <Wug> yeah so it's wedged into a state where it won't try to change anything because it thinks its in the middle of an install, but it can't finish the install because the disk is full
[15:23] <roxlu> I see it's trying to install new packages as well. Is it maybe possible to just only remove packages first?
[15:23] <jmitchell> Wug, I just saw it in syslog, thanks. May I post up the last portion of that for you to have a look at? It doesn't make much sense to me but it definitely has what I saw on screen last night.
[15:24] <Wug> jmitchell: sure, stick it on gist.github.com or something
[15:24] <jmitchell> Absolutely, it is full of kernel messages, so possibly a kernel panic...
[15:24] <Wug> roxlu: ive never gotten into that situation before so I'm not sure off the top of my head how best to proceed
[15:25] <roxlu> Ok, I read one post which said to just move some files from /boot over to somewhere in /home/
[15:25] <roxlu> then autormove again
[15:25] <Wug> roxlu: perhaps you could do this
[15:26] <jmitchell> Wug, it just did it again, had htop running and it is showing memory at only half usage. I will reboot and copy the log then post it...
[15:26] <Wug> copy everything in /boot into /boot2
[15:26] <Wug> then unmount /boot and symlink /boot to /boot2
[15:27] <Wug> then do apt-get -f install to finish the interrupted install, then apt-get autoremove to clean it up
[15:27] <Wug> jmitchell: did anything else look strange? high cpu usage or high disk access?
[15:28] <jmitchell> Wug, cpu usage was high, but I couldn't see if anything was going on with the disk access.
[15:29] <Wug> jmitchell: htop doesn't do a good job of showing it, use top instead for that (it breaks down cpu usage into % time iowait, which if high would indicate everything is waiting on the disk)
[15:30] <Wug> also does it lock up hard or does it just become very unresponsive but not totally dead
[15:30] <roxlu> Wug I did this: https://gist.github.com/roxlu/9093645544485afb581a  and now I can execute "apt-get -f autoremove"
[15:30] <jmitchell> Wug, thanks, It just came up so I have copied the log. Will run top until it crashes. And post that data
[15:30] <Wug> roxlu: ok
[15:30] <Wug> make sure you replace them when you finish
[15:30] <Wug> (if the install would not have removed them)
[15:31] <Wug> also consider growing your /boot partition anyway, since it seems like it's probably too small
[15:31] <Wug> that will prevent this from happening again
[15:31] <roxlu> Once apt-get autoremove is ready I'll put them back and execute the command again
[15:31] <iffraff2> Hi, I have ubuntu running on a macbook pro on it's own partition with 32 gig swap file.  When I close the screen it hangs and I can't get back in without a hard reboot.  I have set all the switches I know about.  this has happened on 14.04 14.10 15.04 and now 15.10
[15:32] <ikonia> iffraff2: 32gig swap file !!! what the devil ?
[15:32] <Wug> ^
[15:32] <Wug> 32 gigs is a lot
[15:32] <oijue> hello there, a crazy thing happened. I cannot explain it. I sent an email via client program yesterday evening. I just noticed that it was sent with a file attached. I didnt  attach this file there. and even crazier is that the file is not even on my computer at the moment. it is a file from a much earlier time. has my system been screwed by some hacker?
[15:33] <iffraff2> I have 16 gig of ram and I was advised to double that for the swap partition
[15:33] <jmitchell> Wug, it locks up hard, requires hard reset to get anything done.
[15:33] <ikonia> iffraff2: you where ill advised
[15:33] <Wug> iffraff2: new advice: 4gb-8gb is probably good
[15:33] <iffraff2> well, regardless it's not helped
[15:33] <ikonia> iffraff2: if you want to hibernate, you need the size of your ram - no more
[15:34] <ikonia> iffraff2: if you don't want that, you need a much smaller ammount,
[15:34] <Wug> oijue: some email clients attach rich text content such as inline images
[15:34] <iffraff2> hmm, well, ok Ill blow up that bridge when I get current problem resolved.
[15:34] <Wug> so it's possible that this is that
[15:34] <iffraff2> it's not small feet, at least for me, to mess with the partitions
[15:34] <Wug> to be sure though you'd have to dig around in the attachment and make sure there's nothing there that shouldn't be
[15:35] <ikonia> iffraff2: is this a new install ?
[15:35] <oijue> Wug, sorry, this is a pdf file from 2014 which is no more on my computer. and I certainly attached nothing to the email. how could this be seen as rich text content by the client?
[15:35] <Wug> oijue: did you forward an old email or something that had it attached?
[15:36] <iffraff2> well, it was.  I mean it's been doing it since i installed it
[15:36] <ikonia> iffraff2: so it's pretty much a clean install ?
[15:36] <iffraff2> oh yes.  nice and clean
[15:36] <iffraff2> actually the update from 15.04 to 10 was an upgrade
[15:36] <ikonia> iffraff2: ok - so I suggest doing it right from day 1
[15:36] <ikonia> iffraff2: do a clean install and lets sort your partitioning out
[15:36] <iffraff2> :) that'll be the day
[15:36] <ikonia> iffraff2: you're planning to do hibernation right ?
[15:37] <Wug> iffraff2: having a swap that's too big probably isn't the end of the world
[15:37] <Wug> might make some things slower than they need to be
[15:37] <iffraff2> yes. but I'm telling you I've re installed a whole bunch of times. and I keep having to set all my stuff up again it's killing me.
[15:37] <ikonia> iffraff2: ok - so lets re-install 1 more time
[15:37] <iffraff2> there doesn't seem to be a good way to automate that.,
[15:37] <ikonia> iffraff2: you're doing hibernation yes/no ?
[15:37] <Wug> iffraff2: in future, you should make your /home partition seperate
[15:37] <roxlu> Wug I've got this in my /boot now: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/roxlu/8081e01fcbb997e5d967/raw/09997fa1a0120dceb23dd60612243caf3c6be1a3/gistfile1.txt
[15:38] <Wug> that way when you reinstall, you can just attach the old /home to the new install and you won't have to recopy all of your files and stuff
[15:38] <iffraff2> I well, I'm not doing anything, I would be satified with suspention but I think hibernate would be better
[15:38] <roxlu> IThe initrd.*-server files were the ones I moved to ~/boot_backup.  I'm wondering if this messed up something :#
[15:38] <iffraff2> oh wow.
[15:38] <ikonia> iffraff2: ok - so you need to re-install, use a swap partition of your memory, no more, no less
[15:38] <ikonia> iffraff2: lets get your machine laid out ok
[15:38] <oijue> Wug, no, because I can see that I correctly sent it as a reply to a former email, which is shown below my email text.
[15:39] <oijue> Wug, the subject line is correct, too, it starts with the right "Re:.." text
[15:39] <Wug> oijue: reply to the email again and tell them not to open it, and consider reinstalling I guess
[15:40] <iffraff2> ikonia, ok.  should we make a check list or something?
[15:40] <Wug> roxlu: if I were you I would make sure none of them were part of the packages that you removed with autoremove
[15:40] <ikonia> iffraff2: nope
[15:40] <iffraff2> I"m kind of new to linux but i've learned a whole ton messing with stuff :)
[15:40] <roxlu> yea :# do you know how I can do that?
[15:40] <iffraff2> ikonia, so what's the plan?
[15:41] <ikonia> iffraff2: exactly what I've just said
[15:41] <iffraff2> oh.  well, I'll lose you right? if i reinstall.
[15:41] <Wug> if you look at your grub settings it should reference all of the ones your system is actually configured to use
[15:41] <iffraff2> then I"ll come back and may never find you again
[15:41] <ikonia> you will,
[15:41] <Wug> your list of installed packages may also be able to clue you into that ifno
[15:41] <Wug> info*
[15:41] <jmitchell> Wug, this is the last one from last night, I don't see any crash dumps for the one today... http://pastebin.ca/3208440
[15:42] <iffraff2> further more, I"m at work and will have to carve out the time to do it.  I would LOVE it if you could give me a game plan to follow.  I'll do the whole thing and then try and find you again.  Unless you have another suggestion
[15:43] <ikonia> iffraff2: I've given you my suggestion
[15:43] <Wug> jmitchell: are you using the samba share to trigger it? that log indicates it might be an issue with samba
[15:43] <oijue> Wug, but I just noticed one thing. this file is still in my client as attachment to earlier emails.
[15:43] <iffraff2> ikonia, and i appreciate that. I'm not a dev ops so I'm a bit green.  I have two partitions one for swap one for ubuntu. would I delete both of these, recreate them, or over write them?
[15:44] <Wug> oijue: is it exactly the same file
[15:44] <Wug> or has it been changed
[15:44] <ikonia> iffraff2: I'd suggest both, and re-create with the right sizes
[15:44] <Wug> if it's exactly the same you probably attached it by accident without realizing it somehow
[15:44] <mamot> 32pw9525%
[15:45] <Soulman404> SoulMan404
[15:45] <iffraff2> so kill them both, recreate with proper size, reinstall ubuntu 15.10, you mentioned a seperate partition for home?  what size would that be?
[15:45] <roxlu> Wug, my grub.cfg is (partly) like this: https://gist.github.com/roxlu/63b42bf1bba02a7e21a5   I see that it's using "/initrd.img-3.0.0.28-server" I assume that I need to have this file in my /boot dir then right?
[15:45] <jmitchell> Wug, it seems to be related to when I am doing a samba transfer - but I can transfer stuff for a short time, then just trying to access a share would cause it to lock up. I am posting another dump from just before that that was initiated by a samba operation and at the end shows something having been 'fixed' and the system needing a reboot.
[15:45] <oijue> Wug, strangely, the content is exactly the same, but the file name is different. the suspicious file has a very irrelevant title, and I'm not sure if this was an earlier name of it.
[15:45] <jmitchell> http://pastebin.ca/3208444
[15:45] <ikonia> iffraff2: I didn't mention a seperate partition for home
[15:46] <ikonia> iffraff2: I'd suggest keeping it simple and just do ubuntu and swap
[15:46] <Wug> jmitchell: the stack trace looks like a samba issue
[15:46] <Wug> or at least, it looks like a potential kernel bug triggered by samba
[15:46] <Wug> maybe see if there's an update for your kernel
[15:47] <iffraff2> frankly I feel like I should make a vagrant vm.  that way I can avoid all the set up.
[15:47] <Wug> ikonia: iffraff2: I mentioned having a seperate /home because it makes reinstalling things easier
[15:47] <SoulMan600>   /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER SoulMan600 kahfqcsaqdad
[15:47] <ikonia> iffraff2: why would that be easier ?
[15:47] <Wug> SoulMan600: no spaces
[15:47] <jmitchell> Wug, would reinstall Samba maybe fix it? I haven't changed the config in a while.
[15:47] <iffraff2> but I suspect that will not be well recieved
[15:47] <iffraff2> well, cuz I can do a clean install, set up my base requirements. and save off image.
[15:47] <Wug> jmitchell: chances are, no it wouldn't
[15:48] <SoulMan600> Thanks @Wug Copy Paste addict
[15:48] <iffraff2> then when I destroy something instead of starting from ground zero each time I can use that image
[15:48] <iffraff2> Wug, ikonia sorry about miss attributing home partition
[15:48] <Wug> iffraff2: how big is your disk
[15:49] <SoulMan600> #Firefox
[15:49] <Wug> SoulMan600: /join
[15:49] <goddard> does thunderbird have spam filter?
[15:49] <Wug> probably as a plugin, but I don't use it
[15:49] <iffraff2> well, as I mentioned it's a macbook pro, and I need to leave osx on it.  it's a 500 gig hd, but osx seems to be taking up about 250, soooo 250?
[15:50] <SoulMan600> Wug: sorry again, coming back to IRC after a while, even forgot my last nick and email used
[15:50] <SoulMan600> goddard: I have seen Thunderbird promting for mark as spam in work email when I got emails from outside gmail etc ...
[15:50] <oijue> I might have renamed the file. but still, taking an attached file from another email, and attaching with another name to the current email. how could that happen with a client?
[15:51] <Wug> iffraff2: ok, I recommend you lay out your disk like this: [/boot: 4GB][swap: 4GB][/: 40GB][/home: 200GB][OSX: remainder]
[15:51] <Wug> give or take
[15:51] <ikonia> oijue: it works of temporary files
[15:51] <Wug> moving the OSX partition might be more trouble than it's worth, so if it's not at the position in my diagram, just work around it
[15:52] <oijue> ikonia, how do you mean? the client is attaching a file to my email with a new name, all by itself. and this file is attached to an email from almost 2 years ago.
[15:52] <iffraff2> would it not be prudent to do 16gig swap as I have 16gig ram?  I mean I may or may not do hibernation, but is it a problem to have more swap?
[15:53] <ikonia> oijue: when you open a file it uses a tempoarary file as a 'swap' file to open it, if you then type a mail that has a reference to the same temporary file (reusing an old name or inode reference) it could attatch to it
[15:54] <Wug> iffraff2: tbh, I never hibernate my machines, they run all the time
[15:54] <Wug> I'm looking at this table though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[15:55] <Wug> I guess you'll need 20GB if you want to hibernate, though I'm not entirely sure why.
[15:55] <iffraff2> yes  16      4               20                  32
[15:55] <iffraff2> I mean it says 32 is the max, so I'm not sure why 32 is cause for re installing
[15:56] <daftykins> iffraff2: a nice round 20GB might be wise if you want to hibernate *and* you tend to have a lot open
[15:56] <Wug> hibernating is probably more trouble than it's worth
[15:56] <daftykins> Wug: +1 of course it is :)
[15:57] <Wug> at least, it is the way ubuntu does it
[15:57] <Wug> I don't know why it can't just go the windows route and save memory into a file in /
[15:57] <oijue> ikonia, I might or might not have clicked on "attach" button before sending the email. because I did consider attaching a file from my desktop. but I dont remember if I went that far to open the file manager window to select a file. supposing I did, could this have happened during this interval?
[15:57] <iffraff2> wug that is good to know I don't necessarilly need it.  but the reason I started this thread is that when I close my laptop it hard crashes my system.
[15:57] <goddard> does thunderbird have spam filter?
[15:57] <opsman> hibernating has always been a pain...Linux or Windows from my expereince.
[15:58] <Wug> iffraff2: check /var/log/syslog and see if there's any strange messages around the time you close the lid
[15:59] <Wug> aside from that, it's out of my area of expertise, I don't have a macbook and closing the lid works as intended on my ancient dell laptop
[15:59] <ikonia> oijue: depends on a many things, and if you can't even remember pressing attach or not, it's pretty hard to take stock of the situation with any real reliable info
[15:59] <Wug> the rest of my linux machines are always-on
[15:59] <daftykins> iffraff2: oh this is also ubuntu on a mac? ugh.
[16:00] <iffraff2> yea, well, I kind of like the hardware.  but it's a work machine, and they don't support ubuntu but I don't want osx so I'm on my own
[16:00] <iffraff2> and I will check those logs. that's helpful
[16:00] <jmitchell> Wug, I saw a message in the log about winbindd Tainted, it is running as a winbind server - could that cause the problem?
[16:00] <Wug> man I would hate to work for some hipstery place that only supported macs
[16:00] <oijue> ikonia, that's why I am asking if (or how) I could cause the attachment of a file in an old email even if I did. this is so abnormal.
[16:00] <daftykins> my point is that it doesn't often work well on the newer macs
[16:00] <Wug> jmitchell: it could, but regardless, chances are it will need a software update to fix
[16:01] <iffraff2> ug, well, I'll tell you this I fit in at the coffee shop now :)
[16:01] <roxlu> Hmm now upgrade wants to remove mysql: https://gist.github.com/roxlu/1536c6e56900dbdac263 (?) That doesn't seem right
[16:01] <oijue> ikonia, you wrote "type a mail that has a reference to the same temporary file" but I dont know what it means. I just did what anyone does every time sending an email
[16:01] <iffraff2> I live in austin, they wont even let you into a coffee shop with out a mac
[16:01] <jmitchell> Wug, so try and update the packages and see if there is a fix there, then?
[16:01] <Wug> jmitchell: if you updated it recently, you could try rolling back to the previous kernel and samba to see if that fixes it
[16:01] <ikonia> oijue: with respect, you don't know what you did
[16:01] <Wug> or you could check for newer versions, yes
[16:01] <Jeaton> i installed xbuntu-desktop, and it changed my regular ubuntu login splashscreen, how do i change it back?
[16:01] <Jeaton> in ubuntu
[16:01] <ikonia> oijue: I'd just write it off as an acident and move on, while keeping an eye to see if it does it again
[16:01] <oijue> ikonia, I dont know what the computer did
[16:02] <daftykins> iffraff2: better go to Amy's ice cream instead :P (i visited)
[16:02] <ikonia> oijue: you don't know what you did, by your own admission
[16:02] <Wug> oijue: you can go on a witch hunt for hackers, or you can not, it's your choice
[16:02] <iffraff2> :)  yea, that's not going to help my waist line
[16:02] <daftykins> :D
[16:02] <Wug> but you should probably pick one or the other and do it
[16:02] <Wug> we can't really make the decision for you, because you have more information than us
[16:02] <oijue> I am telling you about a most abnormal case, and you stick with my expression not sure whether clicking on "attach" or not..what if I did? does it point to any logical explanation?
[16:02] <Wug> nothing you have told us is flashing any blinking red lights that says "this guy is definitely hacked"
[16:03] <Wug> i suggest you do what ikonia said, and watch to see if it keeps doing it
[16:03] <ikonia> oijue: I suggest you move on, and keep an eye on it, see if it does it again
[16:03] <Wug> if it doesn't, who knows, maybe your computer was momentarily infected with a ghost or a gremlin
[16:03] <Wug> if it keeps doing it, maybe consider blowing it away and reinstalling
[16:04] <oijue> ikonia..as I wrote, let's say I clicked on attach and changed my mind and didnt attach anything. could this bizarre thing have a chance to happen anyway? this is my question
[16:05] <ikonia> oijue: as I wrote - you don't know what you did, it's impossible to debug with no solid info
[16:05] <oijue> oh no
[16:05] <ikonia> oijue: I suggest forget it, keep an eye on it, and move on
[16:06] <oijue> it is not a slight deviation from the normal case to overlook easily
[16:06] <ikonia> oijue: then don't overlook it and search for a solution
[16:06] <oijue> that's what I'm doing here
[16:06] <Wug> oijue: the superior wisdom and understanding of the people in this channel who you have asked for advice say that it is
[16:06] <Wug> so watch and make sure it doesn't keep happening by itself
[16:07] <ikonia> no, you're coming up with missing information and guess work and asking for people to say how it's happened - when in reality, it may not have happened at all
[16:07] <Wug> and worry if it does
[16:07] <OerHeks> oijue, so if you replied, instead of creating a new email, that older email as attachment is normal.
[16:07] <ikonia> the quicker you move on and keep an eye out for it happening again and how it happened the second time
[16:07] <oijue> ikonia, this is not my first encounter with you. you're acting always in this 'idee fix" mode
[16:07] <oijue> sorry but true
[16:07] <oijue> positive criticism
[16:08] <ikonia> what ?
[16:08] <ikonia> idee fix ?
[16:08] <oijue> yes
[16:08] <oijue> asking you tenth time
[16:08] <ikonia> I don't know what idee fix means
[16:08] <daftykins> oijue: lets drop the personal commentary, stop going around in a circle for the tenth time and move on please.
[16:08] <oijue> and you stick to that I dont know what I've done
[16:08] <oijue> then help please
[16:08] <oijue> all that he says is you dont know what happened
[16:08] <ikonia> oijue: we can't help - your information is not solid
[16:08] <daftykins> as the others have pointed out, you don't know what you did - so don't expect us to know.
[16:08] <oijue> it is
[16:08] <ikonia> you don't know what you did / didn't do
[16:08] <oijue> oh my god
[16:08] <ikonia> it's untrusted information to make a debug on - you told us this yourself
[16:09] <daftykins> shockingly bugs or problems need steps to reproduce in order to be confirmed.
[16:09] <ikonia> getting soid info if it happens a second time, is REALLY the vaulable data
[16:10] <user__> HI, when a video site asks me to active and install libav from gstreamer can it be unsafe?
[16:10] <oijue> have to leave anyway
[16:11] <Pici> user__: thats fairly normal.
[16:11] <oijue> it seems more about intent, whether to help or not
[16:13] <aarobc> Somietimes when I connect to an openvpn connection, it seems like everything keeps using the normal connection, not the vpn. any ideas?
[16:13] <user__> Pici: thankyou verymuch. I had already installed the gstreamer plugins from software center but still had to install the ones directly in the browser, so i thought it could be an strategy to get my user key.
[16:14] <aarobc> chrome thinks I have the same public ip, is not using the vpn ip
[16:14] <daftykins> aarobc: gotta inherit the default gateway of the VPN, depends how you're managing this connection - an IP change should be shown by visiting whatismyip.com or similar yes.
[16:15] <aarobc> daftykins: I set it up so I can connect through network manager. It usually works, but sometimes it doesn't and is really annoying. it says it's connected to the vpn, but idk
[16:16] <aarobc> sometimes running dhclient would fix it, but that's not working now
[16:16] <daftykins> read your logs.
[16:16] <jmitchell> Wug, I have Webmin on that server, and just clicking the login button is enough to send that machine down! That is with no connections to the Samba server having been made other than Windows possibly trying to reconnect mapped shares.
[16:16] <aarobc> sigh. yes, logs. The one thing I really have never been able to make much sense of
[16:17] <ikonia> webmin = say no more
[16:17] <OerHeks> jmitchell, uh oh, webmin is surely the issue
[16:17] <Wug> jmitchell: if it's a kernel bug, it may be more than just samba that can trigger it
[16:18] <Wug> jmitchell: is this with the vm running?
[16:19] <aarobc> ugh, will try rebooting
[16:19] <jmitchell> OerHeks, Webmin? Really? I have been running it on several machines without problems in the past. Wug, yes the vm comes up automatically. I will reboot and disable it's autostart.
[16:19] <jmitchell> Fortunately, SSH still seems to work ok.
[16:19] <uupz> now, i installed XFCE and i am currently using it, however, whenever i reboot ubuntu i notice that there is not an icon or a way to change desktop managers.  what is the alternative?
[16:31] <Wug> jmitchell: does it crash without the vm running
[16:31] <Wug> (if you login to webmin)
[16:31] <chakru> hey, I want to create wifi hotspot from Ubuntu, how can I do that?
[16:32] <jmitchell> Wug, just tried it and yes it does. I also disabled a script that checks to see if the libvirt-bin is running at startup and starts it if not.
[16:32] <jmitchell> Rebooting again.
[16:32] <Wug> no idea
[16:33] <Wug> try updating software
[16:37] <PanV> Does anybody remember what I have been asking for 2 days from now or I should explain again?
[16:37] <daftykins> PanV: shortest way: have you reinstalled yet?
[16:37] <PanV> daftykins: No.
[16:37] <daftykins> why not?
[16:37] <jmitchell> Wug, thanks for your help. Puzzles me as well since everything was working fine up until last night and I had made no changes at all to the system for a couple of days. I will try the updates.
[16:37] <PanV> Because dunno how to backup my files
[16:37] <PanV> Where are the user's files located?
[16:38] <daftykins> PanV: /home/username/
[16:38] <PanV> Should I open the volume thing?
[16:38] <PanV> Also /home/ is encrypted, will this affect me?
[16:38] <daftykins> "the volume thing" doesn't really mean much to me.
[16:38] <daftykins> depends, does your installation boot yet?
[16:39] <PanV> Erm..
[16:39] <PanV> It can boot, it goes to the login screen!
[16:39] <PanV> But I can't access my user due to some glitches
[16:39] <PanV> #ExtremeGlitches
[16:39] <daftykins> this is not twitter, keep the silly references to a minimum
[16:39] <PanV> Ok :P
[16:40] <daftykins> boot the live USB, unlock your encrypted /home and backup to an external hard disk - if you don't have one, now is the time to get one
[16:40] <PanV> How can I unlock it?
[16:40] <OnceMe> hey is: type mkfs.fat
[16:40] <OnceMe> safe?
[16:40] <OnceMe> will it wipe out or reformat my disk?
[16:40] <PanV> also I got one, let me get my 500 gb disk
[16:40] <daftykins> no idea, i don't have any experience with encryption.
[16:40] <daftykins> OnceMe: be more clear, what are you intending to run? what are you doing?
[16:41] <OnceMe> I want to reformat my /dev/sda1
[16:41] <OnceMe> which is set as bootable flag
[16:41] <daftykins> for what reason?
[16:41] <PanV> OnceMe, GParted? (Wrong advise, probably)
[16:41] <OnceMe> but its ntfs and windows boot is on it, while I intend to use grubloader
[16:42] <PanV> You want to wipe out the windows partition?
[16:42] <daftykins> OnceMe: why aren't you just letting the installer take care of this? did you have a dualboot and now want to have just ubuntu?
[16:42] <daftykins> PanV: please stop trying to offer advice when you can't even fix your own :)
[16:42] <OnceMe> nah I want to fix windows entry
[16:42] <OnceMe> which was in incompatible way with uefi
[16:42] <OnceMe> but  <I dont care about /dev/sda1
[16:42] <OnceMe> just making sure type mkfs.fat \is not going to remove anyttrhing
[16:42] <PanV> daftykins: You are right.
[16:42] <daftykins> so you have an EFI dualboot setup?
[16:42] <OnceMe> anything*, correct?
[16:43] <OnceMe> daftykins: nope
[16:43] <OnceMe> one is in uefi and second in efi mode
[16:43] <OnceMe> wrong partitions
[16:43] <daftykins> i'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve with "type mkfs.fat", that's not a command i'm familiar with
[16:43] <daftykins> there's no difference between UEFI and EFI
[16:44] <daftykins> do you mean one is installed as legacy boot? which one?
[16:44] <OnceMe> yap as a legacy
[16:44] <OnceMe> on efi, I want to both be on uefi
[16:44] <OnceMe> anyway I have formatted /dev/sda1 right now
[16:45] <PanV> daftykins: /home/ folder doesn't seem to appear when I open the Ubuntu volume.
[16:45] <daftykins> PanV: because it's encrypted...
[16:45] <daftykins> OnceMe: i don't think that was a clever move, so which one is installed legacy?
[16:45] <PanV> daftykins: So you are telling me I might not be able to take my files back?
[16:45] <auronandace> OnceMe: formatting a partition means you lose everything on it, you know that right?
[16:45] <PanV> I now hate encryption
[16:45] <k1l_> PanV: that is what you want when you encrypt
[16:45] <daftykins> PanV: no i'm telling you for the second time that i don't have any experience with encryption so i can't help you unlock it.
[16:46] <WhoAreYou> which ubuntu at all is the best? KaliLinux or Zorin OS?
[16:46] <k1l_> you dont want easy access to the encrypted files.
[16:46] <daftykins> WhoAreYou: we don't assist nor advise any of those
[16:46] <auronandace> WhoAreYou: neither of those are ubunt
[16:46] <PanV> k1l_: Should I chroot or something?
[16:46] <PanV>  
[16:46] <daftykins> PanV: it's nice that you've learnt a couple of commands, but you can't use just those to solve every single situation.
[16:47] <PanV> I believe I can copy paste it with console
[16:47] <opsman> Ther is no Generical BEST...depends on what you need..resuorces available..tools/apps required..etc
[16:47] <PanV> Am I correct?
[16:47] <WhoAreYou> Do u know Anonymous OS?
[16:47] <daftykins> PanV: not until you unlock it, are you even paying attention?
[16:47] <k1l_> PanV: you need to mount that home folder and decrypt it. see like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/238047/how-do-i-mount-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-another-ubuntu-machine
[16:48] <daftykins> WhoAreYou: only ubuntu and its' official variants are supported here. *no* support or discussion of anything else.
[16:48] <WhoAreYou> right
[16:48] <daftykins> WhoAreYou: go to #linux if you want to talk about distros in general
[16:48] <k1l_> WhoAreYou: this is #ubuntu. so ubuntu is best :)   for other linux better ask in ##linux
[16:48] <loa> where i can read guide about moving ubuntu on another hardware? i upgrade cpu and motherboard. harddisk will be them same.
[16:49] <daftykins> loa: you don't need to do anything.
[16:49] <daftykins> loa: unless the graphics hardware changed...
[16:49] <PanV> Ok then! I now really got a reason to fix ubuntu. Since I have no idea what k1l_ 's link is saying and I got no other way to get my files back
[16:49] <loa> daftykins, videocard will be same.
[16:50] <auronandace> PanV: perhaps if you read the link you would learn what it is about
[16:50] <daftykins> loa: yep no reason to do anything then, just boot as normal after the upgrade/rebuild
[16:50] <k1l_> PanV: you need to make a procedure to decrypt while mounting. that is the caveat when encrypting stuff.
[16:50] <auronandace> PanV: you have encrypted files you want to access, someone has shared a link showing you how and you don't want to read it
[16:50] <loa> daftykins, ok, i will try. On windows such upgrade always lead to disaster...
[16:50] <daftykins> PanV: no, follow the guide after booting a live session or wait for someone with encryption experience, nobody here is going to help you fix your broken install :)
[16:51] <daftykins> loa: yes, Linux != Windows :)
[16:51] <PanV> daftykins: I will be waiting then.
[16:51] <daftykins> PanV: it's quite horrifying how you refuse to use information to help yourself.
[16:52] <PanV> daftykins: I cannot follow any guide when I am tired.
[16:52] <PanV> daftykins: I can't even read the instructions at a Toy box
[16:52] <daftykins> then do this when you aren't tired.
[16:52] <daftykins> your situation is hardly an emergency given you've taken 2 days already :)
[16:52] <auronandace> PanV: yet you have no problem reading step by step directions from irc?
[16:53] <PanV> auronandace: Who told you I ain't got a problem.
[16:53] <auronandace> PanV: you are here asking
[16:54] <PanV> Geez, I didn't come here so I can argue. I will read the article daftykins. Perhaps I am simply making a mistake while reading guides.
[16:58] <roxlu> Wug I upgraded successfully now. Thanks for your info!
[16:58] <opsman> daftykins: auronandace : Congrats guys. Well said.
[16:59] <opsman> It's amazing how apparant it is that people come asking questions that 5 min with google can fix.
[17:00] <daftykins> c'est la vie :)
[17:00] <SCHAAP137> opsman: true, in some cases you could just copy over the sentence and throw it into a lmgtfy.com link
[17:00] <jtdesigns01> Rexter: ping
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: sadly, this has always been the case
[17:00] <daftykins> er, i don't need to be told that, ActionParsnip :P
[17:00] <circle> so to have true audio goodness do you need three seperate devices, a DAC, then an amplifier, then a receiver?
[17:01] <opsman> Back on irc after long absence(98,99) and some things haven't changed
[17:01] <circle> opsman: tell us about it m8
[17:02] <daftykins> circle: that'd not be on topic for this channel really.
[17:03] <circle> daftykins: we actually had a really productive discussion about it a little way up
[17:03] <daftykins> that's nice, if it's not ubuntu support though - it's not for this channel
[17:03] <circle> wtf
[17:03] <circle> sorry i thought i was on #hardware
[17:03] <Shibe> Ubuntu gnome seems.... slow
[17:03] <circle> hahaha
[17:03] <Shibe> not even in gnome but even in cinnamon
[17:03] <Shibe> terminal has this delay opening and the prompt takes some time to show up
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: could switch to LXDE or XFCE
[17:03] <Shibe> print scr also takes some time to work
[17:03] <opsman> ok. I'll digress further. While trying to help someone they ignored instructions. Made the problem worse. Refused to follow guide.
[17:04] <Shibe> ActionParsnip: on mint cinnamon ran just fine
[17:04] <opsman> and finally stated. Maybe I should try another distro.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: ubuntu isnt mint
[17:04] <Shibe> ActionParsnip: yes but why is it so slow :I
[17:04] <opsman> I'm thinking yep your definition of insanity is much different than mine
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: different distributions are configured differently
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: do you use an Nvidia GPU?
[17:04] <Shibe> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:05] <Shibe> i have nvidia 355 drivers
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: did you install the Nvidia driver? Or nvidia-prime if you have that Optimus (switching GPU) nonsense
[17:05] <Shibe> ActionParsnip: I have both nvidia-prime and nvidia driver
[17:05] <goddard> Does anyone know if Thunderbird can block spam better?
[17:06] <daftykins> goddard: better than what?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: then ive no idea. I steer clear of that switching stuff. Ive seen a tonne of hadaches with it, not worth it IMHO
[17:06] <goddard> daftykins: better then a 2 year old maybe like a 13 year old
[17:06] <Shibe> then am I wasting my time with ubuntu 15.04?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: its EOL in December, I'd say so.
[17:06] <daftykins> goddard: your query makes no sense. it also belongs in a thunderbird channel
[17:06] <Shibe> ok
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: could upgrade to Wily when its released, may help
[17:07] <goddard> Shibe: i have an optimus laptop and 14.04 works the best but is still not 100% reliable i have to manually enter update-alternatives commands all the time
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: or use it in pre-release now if you like
[17:07] <Shibe> I think I should just go back to mint
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: if it works, why not eh :)
[17:07] <Shibe> just that I have outdated software :I
[17:07] <Shibe> python is broken with ssl and I cant find any ppa for newer python version (2.7.9)
[17:07] <goddard> Shibe: if you need something more up to date just use a PPA
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: as long as its secure and does what you need.... why do you need the latest exactly?
[17:08] <bekks> goddard: Why do you have to run update-alternatives all the time?
[17:08] <goddard> Shibe: you can install python 3 from the repos
[17:08] <Shibe> goddard: not python 3
[17:08] <Shibe> newer version of python 2
[17:08] <goddard> bekks: if i want to switch from intel to nvidia it craps out
[17:08] <goddard> oh
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: does the current python version cause you issues?
[17:08] <Shibe> yes
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: then I suggets you report a bug
[17:09] <Shibe> ubuntu 15.04 uses 2.7.9 so thats ok but mint uses 2.7.6
[17:09] <bekks> Shibe: How do you confirm that?
[17:09] <Shibe> bekks: confirm what?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: you could always go for Wily as I said, its released real soon
[17:09] <Shibe> okay
[17:09] <daftykins> Shibe: we do not have any desire to care for what Mint gets up to :)
[17:09] <bekks> Shibe: That Python 2.7.6 is causing your issues.
[17:09] <Shibe> ActionParsnip: what new stuff does willy bring?
[17:09] <Shibe> bekks: because it's confirmed
[17:09] <goddard> bekks: i have to enter this every time i want to switch or it gets stuck on "unknown" and sometimes it can't find the screen
[17:09] <bekks> Shibe: BY whom or what?
[17:09] <goddard> sudo update-alternatives --set x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf /usr/lib/nvidia-352-prime/ld.so.conf
[17:09] <goddard> sudo update-alternatives --set i386-linux-gnu_gl_conf /usr/lib/nvidia-352-prime/alt_ld.so.conf
[17:10] <Shibe> bekks: issues on github and other users
[17:10] <k1l_> Shibe: for mint issues please talk to the mint support.
[17:10] <bekks> Shibe: So no bug report until now?
[17:10] <goddard> Shibe: Mint for me at least with Cinnamon had tons of memory leaks
[17:10] <Shibe> okay
[17:10] <Shibe> goddard: the only issue I had with cinnamon was long startup times
[17:10] <k1l_> !mint
[17:10] <Shibe> cinnamon itself would take about 15 seconds to start
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Shibe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases   2 days in fact. Could upgrade now :)
[17:11] <goddard> Shibe: yeah it looks good but not worth it any more especially since most the stuff is in mainline Gnome Shell
[17:11] <goddard> Shibe: i do like how easy it is to customize though
[17:11] <Shibe> yeah
[17:11] <goddard> Shibe: only thing that beats it is probably KDE:Plasma
[17:12] <Shibe> cinnamon is nice and overall fast
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> goddard: so, not fluxbox :)
[17:12] <goddard> haha
[17:12] <mikekilo111> Can i keep my current windows D drive and install ubuntu after removing windows ?
[17:12] <goddard> ActionParsnip: if you like that sort of thing
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> goddard: hotkeys in fluxbox kick ass. Way more customisable than KDE dude :)
[17:12] <bekks> mikekilo111: Depends on your exact partitioning setup.
[17:12] <scuba323> ActionParsnip: try i3wm ;)
[17:13] <goddard> ActionParsnip: i prefer GUIs for my DE and hotkeys for my applications
[17:13] <mbach__> what's the best way to test my own debian file? like a "Vanilla" Ubuntu without everything development files I've installed?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> scuba323: ive been meaning to but Ive passed the tweaking stages now. I get home from computers and its all done. New installs are done with scripts now
[17:14] <goddard> mbach__: look at the Ubuntu Packaging Guide
[17:14] <mbach__> ok
[17:14] <goddard> mbach__: i updated it when 13.04 came out and i am sure others have kept up with it
[17:14] <dbugger> Hey guys. I am having trouble accessing to Maven through certain script due to SSL certifications. Is there anything I might be missing? MAybe a package to allow me to do that?
[17:15] <scuba323> ActionParsnip: I might be biased after using it for some time but no ubuntu logon gui either. it makes you feel 1337 haha
[17:15] <mikekilo111> I have C drive which has windows. Also it has D drive . i want to keep files in D drive and install ubuntu after removing C drive . both are currently ntfs
[17:15] <scuba323> but i love it!
[17:16] <goddard> mikekilo111: should be easy just install ubuntu along side windows and then move the files over delete the partition and expand .. should be easy to do with Gnome Disks
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> mikekilo111: the installer has a "something else" option. You can delete the Windows system partition then make a root file system and a swap as normal. If yyou are concerned then run a final full backup
[17:17] <goddard> mikekilo111: just backup with clone zilla before hand
[17:17] <jtdesigns01> when I try to install 15.04 split between my ssd and my hdd, it hangs once it gets to the slideshow installation screen.
[17:17] <goddard> then if you mess up you can restore
[17:17] <mikekilo111> @ActionParsnip so i click something else . then creat root , swap and home with ext4 ?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> mikekilo111: you dont really need a separate /home but if you like, why not
[17:18] <jtdesigns01> can anyone help?
[17:18] <mikekilo111> @ActionParsnip so root and swap is enough with swap twice the size of ram ??
[17:18] <jmitchell> Wug, I ran upgrades and also upgraded the kernel because then it would be more difficult to actually track what was causing my problem <hangs head in shame for not doing things one step at a time with tests...> and it all seems to be working fine, even with libvirt-bin / vm running. I will be keeping an eye on it though!
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> mikekilo111: that will also give you the maximum of 4 primary partitions
[17:18] <jmitchell> Thanks again for your help!
[17:19] <daftykins> jtdesigns01: md5 your downloaded ISO, check your install media... usual steps
[17:19] <jtdesigns01> done all those.
[17:19] <daftykins> jtdesigns01: what were you attempting to do, put /home on the HDD?
[17:19] <jtdesigns01> that and /var
[17:20] <iffraff3> Hi, I know this is not the correct room, but can anyone tell me how to show the nics associated with my email address for nicserv?  It says I'm full
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> jtdesigns01: did you set to install updates during installation?
[17:20] <daftykins> jtdesigns01: i'd recommend not doing that, just symlink media folders in ~ post-install - so for now, try reinstalling zeroing the first 10MB of each disk with dd, then clean install solely to the SSD.
[17:21] <jtdesigns01> i did do updates
[17:21] <jtdesigns01> this is what i`m going for:
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> jtdesigns01: dont set that, it may be trying to pull down updates. Just get the OS installed. May help
[17:21] <jtdesigns01> ssd: hacked osx partition, windows 10 partition, ext4 for ubuntu (hacked bootloader on osx partition)
[17:21] <jtdesigns01> hdd: win_10_users, old_win10_install, /home, /var, swap
[17:22] <jtdesigns01> i`m currently dual booting osx and win10, but i need to get ubuntu running too as a dev os
[17:22] <daftykins> jtdesigns01: heh, so you already have the hackintosh + win10 installs on the SSD i take it?
[17:22] <jtdesigns01> yes
[17:22] <daftykins> yeah good luck with that :P
[17:23] <jtdesigns01> 14.04 works
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> jtdesigns01: go with 14.04 then. It's LTS and supported til April 2019
[17:23] <jtdesigns01> but i do like a lot (ot at least one) of the updates provided in 15
[17:24] <jtdesigns01> but if its too much work, i wont even bother
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> jtdesigns01: you can upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04 in April next year, directly from Trusty
[17:24] <daftykins> well consider 15.04 will be dead by end of Jan
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> jtdesigns01: 15.10 is out in 2 days too, why not try that...
[17:25] <jtdesigns01> will it be stable enough for a dev box?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> jtdesigns01: will be very shortly
[17:27] <iLogic> hey guys, i have a vanilla ubuntu 14.04 and want to install xfce 4.12 from scratch.. should I use xubuntu or webupd8 repositories? and should I install the package xubuntu or xfce4?
[17:27] <daftykins> iLogic: avoid webupd8, i guess you mean xubuntu-desktop not xubuntu
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> iLogic: xfce4 will give a minimal XFCE desktop. You already have gedit etc. Installing the metapackage will duplicate functionality
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> iLogic: you dont need additional sources. The packages are in the official Ubuntu repositories.
[17:28] <spm_draget> If I did not change any sources (thus no repositories for a new major release), is 'apt-get upgrade' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' the same?
[17:29] <iLogic> awesome.. thanks guys!
[17:29] <guest-sz8kYX> bonjour, j'ai des prolème quant l'ouverture de ma session. une touche necessaire à l'ouverture de celle-ci a sauté et le clavier virtuel ne marche pas. Pouvez-vous m'aider ?
[17:29] <daftykins> !fr
[17:29] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | spm_draget no
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> spm_draget: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get   explains the difference
[17:32] <puredynamo> Hello, I'm having trouble installing and was wondering if anyone could help?
[17:32] <jtdesigns01> ok thanks guys, lokks like i`m gonna be waiting 2 days for 15.10 (oh the agony :D)
[17:32] <daftykins> puredynamo: explain away with details please
[17:34] <puredynamo> I got a new laptop it is an ASUS X555UB. I've tried installing numerous times but the installation will always crash. I verified the md5 of the ISO and used unetbootin to create a USB drive. Using the utility provided I verified that the USB was correct. The strange thing is I am receiving an error message spam when I'm attempting to install. the m
[17:34] <puredynamo> essage is similar to the one described here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/2/573
[17:35] <pammi> hi
[17:35] <puredynamo> I also created an askubuntu question here which may have more details, but some of the issues were resolved. http://askubuntu.com/questions/687553/installation-issues-on-asus-x555ub
[17:36] <pammi> hi bindi
[17:36] <daftykins> puredynamo: which ISO are you using?
[17:36] <puredynamo> ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:36] <bindi> pammi: ???
[17:37] <daftykins> puredynamo: mmm ok, it's likely that your system is too new to run well with that one. 15.10 is out in a couple of days, or you could try installing the beta of it
[17:37] <surya> hi everyone
[17:38] <puredynamo> Where could I find the beta of 15.10? I just checked on ubuntu.com and didn't see it
[17:38] <Guest33795> settings-> appearance is not open
[17:39] <k1l_> puredynamo: see topic in #ubuntu+1
[17:39] <Guest33795> i'm trying to change icons theme, but appearance is not open
[17:40] <Guest33795> can anybody tell sol for my issue
[17:41] <puredynamo> Thank you, I'll try that and will come back if it doesn't work.
[17:41] <opsman> window show 3
[17:42] <Guest33795> thanks guys, no help here
[17:42]  * Guest9493 is away: I'm busy
[17:48] <swengin> Hi I've ec2 ubuntu instance I've /dev/xvda1  and /dev/xvdb
[17:48] <swengin> I want to merge both without losing data
[17:49] <bekks> swengin: So backup both before? :)
[17:49] <daftykins> swengin: is it installed as LVM?
[17:49] <daftykins> you would've been better off starting another instance configured properly, migrating data, then destroying the first.
[17:50] <NekoMaid420> What does it mean when it says I'm not in the sudoers file?
[17:50] <NekoMaid420> can I put myself in there without sudo?
[17:50] <swengin> there isn't much to worry about there but I've to start over
[17:50] <k1l_> NekoMaid420: is it your system? did you create a new user?
[17:50] <swengin> I'm not sure if it's LVM or not
[17:51] <bekks> NekoMaid420: You are nor allowed to use sudo, and you need an user having administrative privileges to put you in there.
[17:51] <bekks> *not
[17:51] <NekoMaid420> bekks:  k1l_ what if I only have one user?
[17:51] <NekoMaid420> Someone said I could delete xorg.conf
[17:51] <k1l_> NekoMaid420: how come that system is in that state?
[17:51] <marko> hi!
[17:51] <NekoMaid420> Not sure. I was trying to do some setuid thing and I think I broke it
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> NekoMaid420: you will need a user with sudo access to ad you to the admin group
[17:52] <k1l_> NekoMaid420: the user you made while installing can use sudo. so what did you change there?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> NekoMaid420: your first user is added to sudo by default.
[17:52] <bekks> NekoMaid420: What dod you do that your only user isnt in the sudoers file anymore?
[17:52] <NekoMaid420> How could I have removed myself?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> NekoMaid420: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:52] <smead> Just looking at the new dell XPS 15 (9550) anybody familiar with the sputnik project think this one will get added ?
[17:52] <bekks> NekoMaid420: Tell us how you did :)
[17:52] <ariaoktavianda> salam saya pemain baru
[17:52] <k1l_> NekoMaid420: so please tell us what you did there exactly so we know what to do. is it a regular install?
[17:52] <NekoMaid420> I'm not at the system now, I'll have to have a more in depth conversation later
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> NekoMaid420: you can remove yourself from groups you are a member of, that's totally possible as a user (as far as I know)
[17:53] <NekoMaid420> It is a regular install, I think I was trying to mess with group permissions and ending up either deleting the admin group or removing myself from it
[17:53] <k1l_> NekoMaid420: yes, that can happen if you use the wrong commands
[17:54] <k1l_> !id | ariaoktavianda
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> NekoMaid420: if you run:  groups      you will see the groups you are in.
[17:55] <NekoMaid420> Okay. I'll have to check on my lunchbreak. Wow! You guys are so helpful <3
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> NekoMaid420: if you are not in the admin or sudo group, you can drop to root recovery console and add yourself back in as root
[17:56] <NekoMaid420> How would I boot into that? ActionParsnip
[17:56] <OnceMe> hey to generate fstabs is this script safe https://clbin.com/4b9Ad ?
[17:57] <daftykins> OnceMe: ask the author.
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> NekoMaid420: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword   same method as here but instead of setting the password, run:  usermod -a -G admin username
[17:57] <OnceMe> daftykins: I dont know who he/she is
[17:57] <OnceMe> but this is not something like keylogger/stealer/backdoor?
[17:58] <daftykins> OnceMe: i'm certainly not verifying that for you :)
[17:58] <daftykins> write the file yourself.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> its not hard
[17:58] <NekoMaid420> awesome! thanks ActionParsnip
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> NekoMaid420: np :)
[18:01] <creyc> pointing 'lsof' to an sshfs mounted share seems to take quite a bit of time to run, is there some flag i should use for sshfs mounts?
[18:02] <bekks> creyc: There is no flag that could prevent the immense amount data which needs to be transferred using ssh. :)
[18:05] <creyc> hm, yes i suppose
[18:06] <home_> Humandroid-Chappie.2015.DTS.ITA.ENG.1080p.BluRay.x264-BLUWORLD
[18:06] <Attox> hey I have a trouble with samba sharing, I get a permission denied error trying to access files on a ntfs drive, sharingo on other partitions works though
[18:06] <bekks> home_: Wrong channel.
[18:07] <k1l_> !warez | home_
[18:11] <daftykins> Attox: sharing from NTFS tends to be a huge mistake with samba, permissions hell it will be.
[18:16] <loa> how i can set default image of ubuntu first appeareance of it is at logon page and after that on my work space?
[18:17] <loa> i disabled nautilus of controlling my workspace
[18:26] <dbugger> Does anyone has an idea why certain framework I am using (Meteor) gives me a message such as "peer not authenticated" when it tries to download Maven metadata through HTTPS?
[18:27] <reisio> probably because it isn't authenticated
[18:27] <CampSoup1988> Hello all, I have been unable to update or install new apps on my Ubuntu 14.04.  It seems to possibly be related to Bug #993407.  You could see what I have already attempted either at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2298047 or http://askubuntu.com/questions/680564/unable-to-update-or-install-new-apps-bug-993407
[18:27] <dbugger> Yeah, but I was wondering if maybe I could be missing some package, as certificates, maybe
[18:27] <dbugger> Or any other possible reason, that anyone could maybe suspect?
[18:27] <CampSoup1988> I would greatly appriciate any advice that can help me resolve this issue.
[18:30] <mbach__> is it possible to install a ppa when installing a deb file?
[18:30] <mbach__> because my debian file relies on an external ppa not present in a vanilla ubuntu
[18:31] <Heebie1> Hi.  Does anyone know if there's a way with dpkg or apt-get to install a package, but skip a particular file in the package because it conflicts with another package? (It's a man page that's conflicting... a flipping man page. Sheesh!)
[18:31] <opsman> Please allow me my 2cents...
[18:31] <k1l_> mbach__: yes. the google chrome or dropbox packages do that
[18:31] <mbach__> any pointers on how I can achieve this, k1l_ ?
[18:34] <k1l_> mbach__: basically create the *.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder and put the repo url into that
[18:34] <oncemeold> I have an issue installing boot-repair
[18:34] <oncemeold> on ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[18:35] <oncemeold> its says unable to locate
[18:36] <mbach__> what?
[18:36] <oncemeold> ?
[18:37] <mbach__> k1l_, to be clear, I can do this only in DEBIAN/control file?
[18:39] <forwardzone> Hey, I was wondering if anyone here has had to connect to a vpn using the ubuntu server commandline on 14.04lts? The provider gives me several .ovpn and a ca.pem/crl.pem  file but using the standard sudo openvpn --config /path/to/ovpn will fail or seem to freeze the system after entering username and password
[18:40] <k1l_> mbach__: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-packaging for the specifics
[18:40] <OerHeks> mbach__, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/194437/how-can-i-create-a-deb-file-that-adds-a-repository-to-sources-list-d
[18:40] <oncemeold> I have an issue installing boot-repair
[18:40] <oncemeold> on ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[18:40] <CampSoup1988> Hello all, I have been unable to update or install new apps on my Ubuntu 14.04.  It seems to possibly be related to Bug #993407.  You could see what I have already attempted either at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2298047 or http://askubuntu.com/questions/680564/unable-to-update-or-install-new-apps-bug-993407 I would greatly appriciate any advice that can help me resolve this issue.
[18:40] <EriC^^> oncemeold: what's the problem?
[18:41] <mbach__> OerHeks, that seems promising!
[18:44] <syntroPi> nvidia-current is 304 on my system, i tried upgrading to nvidia-346 which generates a flickering screen loop. trying to load "modprobe nvidia_346" yields in "no such device". which is the newest stable nvidia for vivid?
[18:45] <mguy> Is there a way to install php 5.2/5.3 on 14.04 server or is it better just go back to 12.04
[18:47] <pbx> mguy, i don't know any particular reason to use 12.04 for that
[18:48] <zero_shane> hello - I have a question related to install via preseed - at install, I pass "http_proxy=..." - my goal is to *not* have to specify the PROXY in the preseed cfg - but it doesn't quite seem to work - I still have to pass a "d-i mirror/http/proxy ... "
[18:48] <zero_shane> is there some way to specify on the kernel/install time - the proxy to push down in to the installer, so I don't have to specify it in the preseed?  then I can simply do my builds by setting that install flag - and not have to modify my preseeds for different proxies
[18:48] <mguy> pbx: reason being I'm moving a wordpress site that was running on 12.04 on 5.2
[18:58] <CampSoup1988> I am unable to update or install new apps on my Ubuntu 14.04.  It seems like it could be related to bug #993407.  You could see what I have done so far either at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2298047 or http://askubuntu.com/questions/680564/unable-to-update-or-install-new-apps-bug-993407  I would greatly appriciate any addvice to help me resolve this issue.
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> CampSoup1988: what is the output of: sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> CampSoup1988: use a pastebin to host the output please
[18:59] <junixbr> hi there
[19:00] <junixbr> somebody knows why the polkitd is consuming a lot of memory ?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Hi junixbr
[19:00] <junixbr> my Ubuntu is 15.04
[19:01] <junixbr> hi ActionParsnip
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> junixbr: let me search
[19:01] <jan> hi
[19:01] <Lapos> hello, my hardware platform is x86_64 (this returns the uname-p command) , so i have to download AMD64(x86_64) right? not Intel x86
[19:02] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: Have you seen/followed : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ?
[19:02] <Guest95361> i kanapka
[19:02] <oncemeold> now I repaird and I have grub window
[19:02] <oncemeold> however when I pick ubuntu
[19:02] <oncemeold> I get blank screen ;(
[19:02] <Pici> Lapos: yes, the AMD64 specification is the same as x86_64
[19:02] <CampSoup1988> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12878920/
[19:02] <Lapos> okey, thanks Pici
[19:03] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: K; is this a UEFI system ? How many hard drives are installed in this box ?
[19:04] <oncemeold> 1
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> CampSoup1988: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mudlet-makers/ppa/ubuntu/dists/   doesn't support your release and should be removed
[19:05] <oncemeold> Bashing-om:its uefi
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> CampSoup1988: the plex ppa should be removed too, it's still looking for the lucid folder. Lucid is EOL and not supported in any way
[19:06] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: K; and have you tried booting in the recovery console ? What resaults .. a black screen is often times a graphics driver issue .
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> junixbr: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue     please
[19:07] <junixbr> ActionParsnip: look this: 1.6 GiB + 168.5 KiB =   1.6 GiB	polkitd
[19:08] <junixbr> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 15.04
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> junixbr: thanks. I'm seeing the issue about but for older releases
[19:09] <junixbr> ActionParsnip: =/
[19:09] <junixbr> so sad
[19:09] <oncemeold> Bashing-om:ok I can login with no graphics
[19:09] <oncemeold> btw how can i switch from black screen to shell
[19:09] <oncemeold> ctrl + alt +t
[19:09] <oncemeold> used to work, but not anymore.
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> junixbr: could try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1547693
[19:09] <junixbr> I've been from Linux Mint, there was the same problem
[19:10] <fego> 2
[19:10] <junixbr> thank you ActionParsnip
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> junixbr: if it's the Ubuntu one, the new you will.
[19:10] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: IF you can get to the desktop, then yes in unity (ubuntu) key combo ctl+alt+t will yield a terminal interface .
[19:10] <oncemeold> i cant
[19:11] <junixbr> ActionParsnip: I don't think so
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> junixbr: Wily is out in 2 days. Could upgrade and it may help
[19:11] <oncemeold> thats the issue
[19:11] <junixbr> lets wait =)
[19:11] <oncemeold> I get black screen and monitor gets in red modew
[19:11] <oncemeold> which means turned off
[19:11] <CampSoup1988> ActionParsnip: I remove them by going to software & updates --> other software --> uncheck http://ppa.launchpad.net/mudlet-makers/ppa/ubuntu and http://plex.r.worldssl.net/PlexMediaServer/ubuntu-repo correct?
[19:11] <oncemeold> really weird
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> oncemeold: CTRL + ALT + F1 maybe
[19:11] <oncemeold> ah that
[19:11] <oncemeold> let me try
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> CampSoup1988: sure, or remove the appropriate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d etc
[19:12] <oncemeold> not working
[19:12] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: What about ctl+alt+F2 ?
[19:12] <oncemeold> after selecting ubuntu from grub my monitor goes from blue to red
[19:12] <oncemeold> like its nor recognizing anything :(
[19:12] <CampSoup1988> ActionParsnip: Is either method better?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> CampSoup1988: the delete removes fluff files but achieves the same end
[19:13] <oncemeold> ok now I know whats the issue
[19:13] <junixbr> ActionParsnip: killing the process, I can release memory =)
[19:13] <oncemeold> from some reason it goes auto on my
[19:13] <junixbr> ActionParsnip:
[19:13] <junixbr> ActionParsnip: killing /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
[19:13] <daftykins> oncemeold: please do not use the enter key in place of punctuation.
[19:14] <oncemeold> I get an error occured mounting /boot/efi
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> CampSoup1988: it's just different. After, run: sudo apt-get update    to refresh the package list
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> junixbr: sweetness. Will it come back though...
[19:15] <CampSoup1988> ActionParsnip: I am going to do it through the software & updates as I am not sure how to do the other method
[19:16] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: If this is a EFI issue .. I am not experienced .. and my assistance will be limited. Let's see if others here pick up EFI booting issue .
[19:16] <daftykins> CampSoup1988: you need to remove any installed packages from these repos, as well as disable the repos
[19:16] <daftykins> !ppapurge | CampSoup1988
[19:17] <oncemeold> Bashing-om:I debugged it, now only to solved it :)
[19:18] <oncemeold> solve it*
[19:18] <oncemeold> the issue is I need linux-generic and I cannot install it because I need to fix dpkg dependecy problems prevent configuration of linux-signed-image-generic
[19:18] <NathanielHill> Okay, I'm having lots of trouble with a suspend/resume bug that is crashing my laptop constantly. Now, after the latest crash I cannot even open gnome-terminal
[19:18] <CampSoup1988> daftykins: So I also need to uninstall the program that I am using that is associated with those ppas?
[19:19] <NathanielHill> If I try to run it from xterm it shows no errors, just hangs
[19:19] <bekks> CampSoup1988: Yes.
[19:19] <daftykins> CampSoup1988: ideally yes
[19:19] <CampSoup1988> bekks: I was hoping that I didn't have to since I am still using the program.
[19:19] <NathanielHill> I tried removing gnome-terminal with --purge and reinstalling and still nothing
[19:20] <daftykins> CampSoup1988: if you leave it on, your package state will not be tracked and you'll have major issues down the line
[19:20] <oncemeold> Errors while encountered while processing: linux-signed-image-3.13.0.66-generic
[19:20] <oncemeold> linux-signed-image-generic and linux-signed-generic
[19:20] <oncemeold> any ideas ppl? Im messing with this for 8 hours
[19:20] <daftykins> CampSoup1988: maybe not today... maybe not tomorrow... but soon, and for the rest of your install's life.
[19:21] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: From recovery console, ' mount -o remount,rw / '(Note there is no space after the comma.) to get read/write, now you can install as required .
[19:22] <oncemeold> ok
[19:22] <oncemeold> btw when I try to install linux image geenric I get this cp cannot stat /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-66-generic
[19:22] <oncemeold> is this normal?
[19:22] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: Make sure there are no space constraints causing the latest kernels to install .. what results ' df -h ; df -i ' ?
[19:23] <freeroute> hi, I have a question about expert install
[19:23] <Ridley5> hi all
[19:23] <freeroute> right now I'm at the aptitude interface during software selection
[19:23] <oncemeold> ok after I did your command it says linux-generic is already the latest version
[19:23] <oncemeold> o.0
[19:23] <daftykins> freeroute: tasksel?
[19:24] <trumpler> can Debian doubts be asked here or Ubuntu only ?
[19:24] <oncemeold> but I get those 3 errors still
[19:24] <Bashing-om> !tab | oncemeold Else I can and do miss your responses .
[19:24] <freeroute> daftykins: http://i.imgur.com/uxOydZT.png - but x11-common is the only package it can't install :p
[19:24] <Ridley5> can i user flash player in firefox ? it is patched since july ?
[19:24] <freeroute> daftykins: so... can I simply get into the shell and do something like sudo apt -f install, after sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:24] <freeroute> ?
[19:24] <oncemeold> Bashing-om:ok in that mode I run sudo apt-get install linux-generic and I get errors processing further dependecies: linux-signed-image=3.13.0-66-geeneric linux-signed-generic and linux-signed-image-generic
[19:25] <oncemeold> what can cause it Bashing-om?
[19:25] <mcphail> Ridley5: has been patched several times since then
[19:25] <Ridley5> ah cool mcphail
[19:25] <daftykins> freeroute: certainly wouldn't hurt to try, but you didn't really state what's going on - you just said where you were
[19:25] <Ridley5> waht can i do to install it
[19:26] <mcphail> Ridley5: install the flash installer, or (recommended) install "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[19:26] <daftykins> Ridley5: truth is flash is dead for Firefox, it's hellishly out of date in terms of major version - if you're really married to it you should grab chromium and pepperflash
[19:26] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: Out of disk space for one . what returns ' df -h ; df -i ' in our pastebin site .
[19:26] <BluesKaj> or chrome
[19:26] <Ridley5> ok thank you mcphail
[19:26] <Ridley5> thanks daftykins :)
[19:27] <pfak> I have a system with mdraid on the drives, then LVM on top and then root is on the LVM. for some reason when I reboot the system, initramfs isnt activating the LVs. if I type 'vgchange -a y' and then exit initramfs the system boots. thoughts?
[19:27] <oncemeold> also log from my amd driver is: "fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers for 3.7 release /lib/modules/3.13.0-37-generic/bui;d/include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h cannot be found" Bashing-om
[19:27] <freeroute> daftykins: I know. I'm sorry. I'll brb and give you a detailed yet clear run-down.
[19:28] <oncemeold> Bashing-om:im not out of space
[19:28] <oncemeold> every partitions have Use% lower than 50%
[19:30] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: Then we remove/install as the package manager dictates . What returns - and I do need to see this to assist you further - ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' ?
[19:31] <bekks> oncemeold: Just pastebin: df -h; df -i
[19:31] <daftykins> the volunteers here prefer to see information first-hand, oncemeold :)
[19:31] <daftykins> the task is difficult enough without
[19:32] <CampSoup1988> ActionParsnip: I refreshed my package list and redid the sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a; uname -a  Here is the results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12879158/
[19:33] <SCHAAP137> anyone know how to make caffeine work for xscreensaver?
[19:33] <oncemeold> Bashing-om:sec
[19:33] <oncemeold> Bashing-om: https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t34.0-12/12179359_1126420354052631_1958998773_n.jpg?oh=0dfe36becb67fc5e35327800c0a678d4&oe=56282A82
[19:35] <bekks> oncemeold: That picture is unreadable. Please use pastebin.
[19:35] <oncemeold> is issue in grub.cfg fstab or something else?
[19:35] <bekks> !pastebin | oncemeold
[19:35] <oncemeold> bekks:how to use astebin from external pc
[19:36] <oncemeold> I cant even c/p it
[19:36] <nalum> hello all, I'm having an issue with my wifi. When the wifi is turned on ubuntu is very slugish and it is off ubuntu is fine. It is running on a Macbook Pro, 8GB Ram, Core i7 2.9GHz. Has anyone had issues like this, can anyone help out sorting the issue?
[19:36] <bekks> oncemeold: So do it on the computer you are on. Or copy the text using ssh, or an usb device.
[19:36] <oncemeold> its not possible
[19:36] <oncemeold> im on laptop
[19:36] <oncemeold> this is external PC and I have no option to c/p
[19:37] <bekks> oncemeold: I bet you do.
[19:38] <sudhaker> how to install watsup
[19:39] <bekks> !info watsup | sudhaker
[19:39] <oncemeold> I dont and pic is not that unreadable bekks
[19:40] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: With the use of pastebinit, there is no need to copy/paste . Install the tool ' sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; df -h | pastebinit ' . And pass the resulting URL back here .
[19:41] <bekks> Bashing-om: HE cannot install anything right know, THATS the actual issue to be solved :)
[19:41] <oncemeold> actually yes
[19:41] <sudhaker> how i can open pdf files through terminal
[19:41] <oncemeold> wtf I cannot even install pastebinit
[19:41] <oncemeold> this is some big error :(
[19:41] <Bashing-om> bekks: :) .. then yeah, we have a problem with no communications .
[19:41] <bekks> oncemeold: Then use this site. http://www.termbin.com/
[19:41] <oncemeold> Im starting to panic right now
[19:42] <bekks> oncemeold: Calm down.
[19:42] <oncemeold> I have super important stuff on my linux
[19:42] <bekks> oncemeold: And since your stuff is superimportant, you already have working backups. Dont you?
[19:42] <professorscience> sudhaker: Have you tried "evince filename.pdf"?
[19:43] <professorscience> Hey e'body. A recent update to the kernel stopped my WiFi card from being recognised by the PC, and if I go into the grub advanced startup menu and boot with the old kernel, it works. But what do I do now? How can I start diagnosing/fixing this?
[19:43] <oncemeold> this http://termbin.com/fagf
[19:43] <oncemeold> bekks:partial ones
[19:43] <oncemeold> it was not updated in a month
[19:43] <oncemeold> so I will have a month of lost hard work ;(
[19:43] <bekks> oncemeold: Then your stuff cant be that super important.
[19:44] <oncemeold> uhm I cannot get error to be on termbin
[19:44] <bekks> oncemeold: However, that paste just contains a part of the messages. Did you do what has been suggested already?
[19:44] <oncemeold> how to that
[19:44] <oncemeold> Yes I did sudo apt-get install -y pastebinit
[19:45] <Nathanie1Hill> Anyone have any ideas why gnome-terminal wont open after suspend crash?
[19:45] <oncemeold> Yes I did sudo apt-get install -y pastebinit | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:45] <bekks> oncemeold: I mean: reomve all programs from your ppa, remove the ppa?
[19:45] <Nathanie1Hill> I've purged the config files and reinstalled
[19:45] <oncemeold> no I didnt do that
[19:45] <bekks> oncemeold: Why not?
[19:45] <oncemeold> will I destroy all repos
[19:45] <oncemeold> and how to do that
[19:45] <bekks> oncemeold: No. It will remove ONE repo, which is causing your issues, essentially.
[19:46] <oncemeold> ok nice, and how to do that?
[19:46] <bekks> oncemeold: you have been told ;)
[19:46] <oncemeold> I dont recalll
[19:46] <oncemeold> I tried auto-remove
[19:46] <oncemeold> but that didnt worked either
[19:46] <bekks> autoremove will not help you at all.
[19:47] <oncemeold> I cannot see cmd in logs
[19:47] <oncemeold> can you please re-post it?
[19:47] <oncemeold> Thanks
[19:47] <bekks> Uninstall all programs which you've installed from that repo, and then remove the repo from your sources.
[19:47] <oncemeold> yes, but how? :(
[19:48] <CampSoup1988> Is there any other advice after removing those two ppas?
[19:48] <bekks> CampSoup1988: Nope.
[19:48] <oncemeold> bekks:can you tell me? Im clueless
[19:48] <oncemeold> I just want to use my ubuntu again
[19:50] <oncemeold> bekks Bashing-om?
[19:51] <bekks> oncemeold: Provide a full pastebin first. youraptgetcommand 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:52] <Bashing-om> oncemeold: Still with no idea what the issue really is . Booting ? kernel ? daft repo ? Inconsistent package manager ??
[19:52] <oncemeold> bekks: termbin.com/1iu8
[19:53] <bekks> oncemeold: Look at you paste please.
[19:54] <oncemeold> bekks:I did what you told me
[19:54] <oncemeold> and now I get could not get the lock
[19:54] <streulma> hello, I got message at boot and shutdown, Ubuntu 15.04, drm i915 the master control interrupt lied (SDE) Intel 5500
[19:55] <oncemeold> Bashing-om:the issue might be with this: An error occured while mounting /boot/efi
[19:55] <bekks> oncemeold: When did that error occured? And why didnt you tell us before? :)
[19:56] <oncemeold> it occured when Im loggin in ubuntu
[19:56] <oncemeold> when ubuntu is starting
[19:56] <freeroute> daftykins: ok. So the main thing I'm trying to achieve is to get the KDE (or also called Plasma these days) without the pre-installed apps like LibreOffice and Kdenlive. For this, I'm doing a minimal expert install of 15.04 x64. As suggested by BluesKaj in #kubuntu, I had to install kubuntu-desktop and plasma-desktop during software selection (that screenshot I sent you). Problem is, it requires x11-common
[19:56] <freeroute> which does not want to install.
[19:56] <streulma> my computer does not lie :(
[19:56] <oncemeold> bekks:I can get through with pressin S "skip" so I get in terminal so I can fix it
[19:57] <oncemeold> but does that mean my fstab is wrong?
[19:57] <daftykins> freeroute: pretty sure the metapackage kubuntu-desktop will pull in all the gunk you don't want
[19:57] <bekks> oncemeold: It means /boot/efi wasnt mounted properly. You have to investigate why.
[19:57] <daftykins> freeroute: gonna need to see some output of what's wrong with x11-common
[19:58] <oncemeold> bekks:ok can you help me?
[19:58] <bekks> oncemeold: With what? Currently you are working on another issue.
[19:58] <freeroute> daftykins: I can make a .webm vid, but I'm not sure how I can deliver it to you in text (it's in a virtualbox VM)
[19:59] <walter> Hi.. i'm using Ubuntu 11 while starting a service getting an error stating as : ~# Using an array as a reference is deprecated at /usr/bin/ptagent/ptagent_patcher.pl line 315.
[19:59] <walter> Can any body help me
[19:59] <daftykins> freeroute: screenshot -> imgur.com
[19:59] <oncemeold> bekks:well its all related, no?
[19:59] <bekks> walter: Ubuntu 11.x is EOL for years now.
[19:59] <daftykins> walter: are you sure you mean 11?
[19:59] <bekks> oncemeold: We dont know
[19:59] <Seveas> walter: there's no Ubuntu 11. Only 11.04 and 11.10. Both are way obsolete.
[19:59] <freeroute> daftykins: output of the error log is much more than a screenshot though.
[19:59] <bekks> oncemeold: We havent seen a full paste yet.
[19:59] <oncemeold> ok, can you tell me what to do, to get out of this horror
[19:59] <daftykins> freeroute: what about multiple? :>
[19:59] <oncemeold> bekks:I cant paste it obviously, I followed your commands and failed, twice.
[19:59] <bekks> oncemeold: We told you several times. Provide a full pastebin.
[20:00] <bekks> oncemeold: You can.
[20:00] <Seveas> walter: it's a warning, not an error. But that application *will* stop working with newer versions of perl, so tell the authors to fix it.
[20:00] <oncemeold> bekks:ok I can, with what command?
[20:00] <bekks> oncemeold: And there are numerous ways besides my commands to provide a full pastebin.
[20:00] <oncemeold> bekks:ok I can, with what command?
[20:01] <walter> mine is ubuntu 11.10 , but the service is not starting
[20:01] <bekks> oncemeold: I told you two, if they dont work for you, pipe the output into a text file, etc.
[20:01] <daftykins> walter: sorry but no assistance can be provided for EOL releases.
[20:01] <bekks> !11.10 | walter
[20:01] <daftykins> walter: you should not be using that
[20:01] <genii> It's more than 2 years EOL now
[20:02] <bierbr> I've noticed that I cannot install ruby 1.8 (using RVM) in trusty http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libruby
[20:02] <bierbr> like I did in Precise
[20:02] <bierbr> anybody knows how this is solved?
[20:03] <oncemeold> here bekks termbin.com/1hyw
[20:04] <bekks> oncemeold: cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-66-generic’: No such file or directory -- that file doesnt exist.
[20:04] <bekks> oncemeold: Pastebin "ls -lha /boot/" please.
[20:04] <oncemeold> ok
[20:04] <a830n> hi first time here
[20:05] <oncemeold> termbin.com/bu4z
[20:05] <oncemeold> termbin.com/bu4z bekks
[20:05] <walter> ok thanks guys for your valuable info..
[20:05] <bekks> oncemeold: As you can see, that file doesnt exist.
[20:05] <bekks> oncemeold: So purge that package.
[20:05] <oncemeold> ok and how to fix it?
[20:05] <oncemeold> to purge that thing in /boot/
[20:05] <oncemeold> or what?
[20:05] <bekks> oncemeold: And provide df -h and df -i in a pastebin.
[20:06] <oncemeold> termbin.com/06m9
[20:07] <freeroute> daftykins: https://www.justbeamit.com/gzav7 - see for yourself :)
[20:07] <oncemeold> xv8e is df -h bekks
[20:07] <a830n> exit
[20:07] <daftykins> freeroute: that link says "no longer exists"
[20:08] <freeroute> (basically I'm pressing g to install all selected packages, in this case the only one, which is x11-common)
[20:08] <bekks> oncemeold: So purge that package throwin the error message.
[20:08] <freeroute> daftykins: sorry, apparently it gave me a link before it was finished uploading :S
[20:08] <oncemeold> ok and how to purge it?
[20:08] <bekks> apt-get purge packagename
[20:08] <oncemeold> sudo apt-purge pack?
[20:08] <daftykins> freeroute: probably better to use the default tools instead of the fancy aptitude CLI you have there
[20:08] <oncemeold> ah ok
[20:09] <oncemeold> so sudo apt-get purge linux-signed-image-3.13.0-66-generic?
[20:09] <oncemeold> is that correct bekks?
[20:09] <freeroute> daftykins: but the aptitude thing was the default tool when I chose "Manual software selection" here - http://i.imgur.com/p4fkNBL.png
[20:09] <oncemeold> bekks I need confirmation, just not to mess something up..
[20:10] <freeroute> daftykins: https://www.justbeamit.com/a2gkf ?
[20:10] <bekks> oncemeold: you system is messed up currently, and I assume you have current backups.
[20:10] <arun__> pydelhi
[20:10] <daftykins> freeroute: yes that was tasksel, as i say though - things like libreoffice you were trying to avoid, will be brought in by the meta package 'kubuntu-desktop' anyway
[20:10] <bekks> *your
[20:10] <freeroute> daftykins: so which (meta)package should I be choosing so that I can only have the Plasma desktop?
[20:11] <CampSoup1988> I am unable to update or install new apps on my Ubuntu 14.04.  It seems like it could be related to bug #993407.  You could see what I have done so far either at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2298047 or http://askubuntu.com/questions/680564/unable-to-update-or-install-new-apps-bug-993407  I would greatly appriciate any addvice to help me resolve this issue.
[20:12] <daftykins> freeroute: you'd have to ask a KDE user really.
[20:12] <oncemeold> ok that is fixed bekks however I cannot still istall linux-geenric kernel 3.7
[20:12] <daftykins> freeroute: are you really constrained on space? because i honestly think this whole approach is a big waste of time
[20:12] <oncemeold> here is pastebin sec
[20:12] <oncemeold> termbin.com/u9wt
[20:12] <oncemeold> I need fglrx amd driver for my graphics
[20:13] <oncemeold> bekks termbin.com/u9wt
[20:13] <ablair_> quit
[20:13] <bekks> oncemeold: Whats that now?
[20:13] <oncemeold> bekks: thats a log when I try to install fglrx
[20:13] <freeroute> daftykins: I suppose you're right. I figured I could have more granularity in choosing what kind of DE I could install.
[20:14] <oncemeold> which means my linux-generic is wrong
[20:14] <oncemeold> I had this problem before, but cannot remember how I solved it
[20:14] <oncemeold> it has to do something with my kernel headers I think
[20:14] <oncemeold> well error says that too :D
[20:14] <bekks> oncemeold: Why dont you solve your other issues first?
[20:15] <bekks> oncemeold: Pastebin a complete output (including commands) of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade;
[20:15] <daftykins> freeroute: this would be fine via manual package installation though, but the errors referring to /var/cache/debconf/config.dat don't sound too good, perhaps you just need to restart and try again
[20:16] <oncemeold> bekks:its just sudo ./amd-driver-installer-13.35.1005-x86.x86_64.run
[20:17] <TJ-> CampSoup1988: have you put /etc/environment into a pastebin yet?
[20:17] <bekks> oncemeold: Forget that. Provide the output of the command I told you.
[20:18] <oncemeold> ha ok
[20:18] <freeroute> daftykins: what do you mean with manual package installation? Using apt-get to get the metapackages during the expert netinstall?
[20:18] <daftykins> freeroute: yeah, standard commands - you might even be able to get somewhere with that now, have you tried rebooting then trying the commands you mentioned you were going to try earlier?
[20:19] <xtonousou> quit
[20:19] <oncemeold> 7mcq
[20:19] <freeroute> daftykins: ah, you mean actually boot into the TTY login shell after installation is finished and I have rebooted, and then doing apt-get install x11-common ?
[20:20] <oncemeold> yyqr is for dist-upgrade bekks
[20:20] <daftykins> freeroute: yep, worth a try
[20:20] <bekks> oncemeold: Whats "yyqr"?
[20:20] <oncemeold> termbin.com/yyqe
[20:20] <freeroute> daftykins: that might just work, thanks :)
[20:20] <oncemeold> termbin.com/yyqr
[20:20] <daftykins> http://termbin.com/yyqe
[20:20] <daftykins> oncemeold: making them clickable is always nice
[20:21] <daftykins> http://termbin.com/yyqr
[20:21] <bekks> oncemeold: LOOK at you own pastebins and provide FULL pastebins please.
[20:21] <oncemeold> bekks:termbin.com/7mcq
[20:22] <oncemeold> thats a full one
[20:22] <oncemeold> btw I think I need to lower my kernel headers to 3.5 to work with fglrx driver
[20:22] <oncemeold> is this possible?
[20:22] <oncemeold> Im just saying an idea
[20:22] <bekks> oncemeold: Pastebin "cat /etc/issue" too.
[20:22] <daftykins> no that's utter rubbish
[20:22] <oncemeold> because http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138847
[20:23] <oncemeold> second post says that
[20:23] <bekks> oncemeold: Forget your fglrx for a moment.
[20:23] <oncemeold> ok bekks dist-upgrade started
[20:23] <bekks> oncemeold: Pastebin /etc/issue as asked above.
[20:23] <oncemeold> lets see if this is going to fix my graphics, I see some amd drivers are going to get installed.
[20:24] <oncemeold> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \1
[20:24] <oncemeold> bekks:^^
[20:24] <bekks> oncemeold: Then why on earth are you using old raring PPA?
[20:24] <bekks> That WILL cause issues.
[20:24] <oncemeold> I dont know
[20:24] <oncemeold> can you tell me how to make it clean?
[20:24] <daftykins> what a mess :(
[20:24] <bekks> oncemeold: you configured it that way, why?
[20:25] <daftykins> clean install time :)
[20:25] <oncemeold> bekks:I didndt knew..
[20:25] <bekks> oncemeold: Take a last backup, reinstall 14.04.3 cleanly.
[20:25] <oncemeold> I need to fix fglrx driver first
[20:25] <bekks> oncemeold: No. You need to take a backup NOW.
[20:25] <daftykins> oncemeold: _NO_
[20:26] <oncemeold> I solved this before
[20:26] <oncemeold> but I forgot how
[20:26] <bekks> oncemeold: Then solve it if you can. You know what we are suggesting.
[20:26] <daftykins> since you're after some ancient kernel i suspect your card is an old legacy status one
[20:27] <alberto_> hola
[20:28] <alberto_> como pudo inst java sdk en ubuntu 5.1?
[20:29] <Pici> !es | alberto_
[20:30] <daftykins> oncemeold: what is the graphics card model? from 'lspci'
[20:32] <rscarlett> Hi- newbie question. Sorry if this is the wrong place. My tech guy wants me to buy a wildcard ssl certificate. I'm wondering what is the difference (other than price) between getting it from Networks Solutions, Namecheap or Comodo?  Thanks for you help in advance.
[20:32] <oncemeold> GPU is AMD RADEON R7 250 GIGABYTE 2GB GDDR5, VGA/DVI/HDMI/128BIT/GV-R725O5-2GI
[20:32] <oncemeold> daftykins:^^
[20:33] <daftykins> nice caps
[20:33] <oncemeold> its not old
[20:33] <bekks> oncemeold: So backup now and reinstall.
[20:33] <wileee> rscarlett, We can't answer you.
[20:34] <daftykins> oncemeold: alright, still agree on the reinstall though - you've totally ruined that install
[20:34] <wileee> in any depth or in relation to ubuntu is al
[20:34] <yayaoui> hello
[20:34] <goddard> rscarlett: no difference
[20:34] <oncemeold> thats not an option
[20:34] <oncemeold> its the easy way but I need to solve this
[20:34] <daftykins> oncemeold: yes it is.
[20:34] <oncemeold> because I know its solveable
[20:35] <daftykins> oncemeold: but you're not solving it, you're here asking for help and your system is A MESS.
[20:35] <bekks> oncemeold: Then solve it.
[20:35] <goddard> rscarlett: technically speaking any way... they might have difference insurance rates
[20:35] <yayaoui> why my pc is lagging ? i use xebunto and this shit make fell i'm using a computer of 2002
[20:36] <goddard> yayaoui: impossible to say as no one knows your setup just because you posted to IRC
[20:36] <daftykins> yayaoui: that's also not welcome language here.
[20:36] <yayaoui> vostro v130
[20:37] <yayaoui> ok i remeber that for future ;)
[20:38] <rscarlett> goddard: Thank you very much and I'm sorry for the newbie questions. Is insurance something people typically need or use?
[20:39] <daftykins> rscarlett + goddard take this conversation elsewhere if you don't mind, it's not on topic.
[20:40] <qlvw> Has anyone tried the ubuntu phones?
[20:40] <oncemeold> now after all thise upgraded Im unable to even get to a shell prompt
[20:40] <daftykins> !touch | qlvw not here
[20:40] <oncemeold> for safe mode I get into initrframs
[20:40] <popey> qlvw: sure
[20:40] <qlvw> popey thoughts?
[20:40] <bekks> oncemeold: your installation is totally broken, as has been said multiple times before.
[20:40] <oncemeold> I have no backup
[20:40] <oncemeold> I need to get into this
[20:41] <oncemeold> but now I cant even get into shell promp
[20:41] <oncemeold> after all those fixes
[20:41] <daftykins> oncemeold: then make a backup, you've ruined your machine
[20:41] <bekks> oncemeold: We told you _multiple_ times to create backups - you ignored it.
[20:41] <oncemeold> daftykins:how to make a backup?
[20:41] <bekks> Your data cant be that important.
[20:41] <daftykins> buy an external disk = step 1
[20:41] <bekks> oncemeold: The same way as you took your backups a month ago. Your super important ones, as you called it.
[20:43] <oncemeold> how
[20:43] <oncemeold> when I cant logni to neither shell prompt nor gui
[20:43] <daftykins> you boot a live session from a flash drive
[20:43] <yayaoui> What i can chose for my vostro v130 ? i have xebunto but when i use firefox its more slow then waterfox in windows 8
[20:43] <daftykins> yayaoui: there's no such thing, xubuntu perhaps you mean.
[20:44] <popey> qlvw: I love it, but I have bias, I work on it.
[20:44] <yayaoui> yeah i mean xubuntu
[20:44] <oncemeold> daftykins:I have a flash
[20:44] <oncemeold> 30GB big
[20:44] <yayaoui> i tought it will be more perfoment in my pc but its seem more "Slow"
[20:44] <daftykins> oncemeold: so prepare it with an ubuntu ISO to boot 14.04.3 and backup your system from it
[20:45] <oncemeold> ok can you tel lme how to mount the disk
[20:45] <oncemeold> once I'm in with live session?
[20:46] <daftykins> oncemeold: once you get there, sure.
[20:46] <daftykins> oncemeold: but you need another disk to copy your data to...
[20:46] <daftykins> yayaoui: core i3 1.33GHz, 4GB RAM, that sound about right?
[20:48] <oncemeold> daftykins:yes no problem, I can c/p on USB and then c/p on my laptop
[20:48] <oncemeold> once I backpu everything, I can burn the latest ubuntu install it config partitions and then re-sync data back
[20:49] <vixing> hey, how can I bind it, so whenever I do git push it also runs other command? how can I bind two or more commands to one
[20:49] <daftykins> oncemeold: you must not have that much personal data.
[20:49] <daftykins> oncemeold: no you'd already have ubuntu booted from that flash drive, you wouldn't need another disc with it on.
[20:49] <daftykins> vixing: write a script
[20:50] <vixing> and ln it to usr/bin ?
[20:50] <oncemeold> daftykins:what?
[20:50] <bekks> vixing: Put it in /home/user/bin/
[20:50] <daftykins> what are you unclear on?
[20:50] <oncemeold> no Im planning next: to burn tmp ubuntu for a live session, boot it on my broken machine, transfer data to a flash
[20:51] <oncemeold> then sync data from flash to laptop, then burn latest ubuntu on a flash reinstall it
[20:51] <oncemeold> and then just sync data back
[20:51] <daftykins> oncemeold: if you want it on a blank DVD fine, it'll be a lot slower though.
[20:51] <oncemeold> no Ill have it onusb
[20:51] <bekks> oncemeold: you have 14.04.3 on your flash - you dont need anything else.
[20:51] <vixing> I don't know bash scripting tho, I only do little of python bekks
[20:51] <daftykins> oncemeold: no see you keep saying you're going to make boot media twice, this is not necessary.
[20:51] <daftykins> vixing: time to learn --> #bash
[20:51] <oncemeold> daftykins:Im not lazy
[20:51] <vixing> yeh I shall
[20:51] <oncemeold> I spend 9 hours trying to fix this
[20:51] <oncemeold> I can do couple of more :)
[20:52] <bekks> oncemeold: No one said you are lazy - it is just not necessary to create another live media.
[20:52] <daftykins> oncemeold: nobody said anything about lazy, i'm saying... ^
[20:52] <oncemeold> yeah got it
[20:52] <oncemeold> I'm sorry to bother but this was really frustrating for me
[20:52] <daftykins> 9hrs and you got this far? ouch.
[20:52] <oncemeold> I had broken mbr gpt uefi efi
[20:52] <oncemeold> everything was broken.. ;(
[20:52] <daftykins> oncemeold: yes alright, now focus on the task at hand.
[20:53] <oncemeold> btw Im in live session, now what? ;)
[20:53] <bekks> daftykins: 9 hours is plenty for ruining a system like that. Others need more time :)
[20:53] <daftykins> oncemeold: i don't believe you.
[20:53] <daftykins> bekks: :D
[20:53] <oncemeold> why not?
[20:53] <oncemeold> IM in terminal live session
[20:53] <bekks> oncemeold: Too fast. :P
[20:53] <daftykins> you are presently lying to us.
[20:53] <oncemeold> I have i7 fast disks and 8gb of ram
[20:53] <yayaoui> dafty is an i3 2gbram
[20:53] <bekks> oncemeold: And thats stil too fast for booting.
[20:53] <oncemeold> i7 is CPU
[20:53] <daftykins> yes we know what i7s are
[20:54] <oncemeold> dude Im IN!
[20:54] <Freddie_Mercury> I think people here are aware of what i7's are.
[20:54] <bekks> oncemeold: CPU is irrelevant, RAM is irrelevant.
[20:54] <ruien888> interesting reading ;)
[20:54] <coffeeguy> heh
[20:54] <oncemeold> now how to backup my stuff
[20:54] <rscarlett> Daftykins: Sorry. Goddard: Thanks for your help.
[20:54] <bekks> oncemeold: The same way as you did a month ago.
[20:54] <daftykins> you are not in an ubuntu desktop live session, until you do that we can't help you
[20:54] <Freddie_Mercury> oncemeold: Erm. Weren't you in ##linux some hours ago with this exact same problem? Someone was walking you through it.
[20:54] <oncemeold> I idnt do it from live system
[20:54] <oncemeold> but wait huh
[20:54] <daftykins> Freddie_Mercury: sounds about right, these types of users usually cross-post on IRC :)
[20:55] <daftykins> too many cooks comes to mind
[20:55] <oncemeold> YOu do not have necessery permission to view this folder
[20:55] <oncemeold> great..
[20:55] <Freddie_Mercury> daftykins: They were handheld in that other channel and infrequently mouthed off to the people there.
[20:55] <yayaoui> dafty this vostro v130 i have , has an i3+2gbram
[20:55] <bekks> oncemeold: Then use sudo.
[20:55] <oncemeold> I need to access that media though
[20:55] <daftykins> yayaoui: mmm that kind of spec should be fine, but what are you trying to do with firefox? youtube?
[20:55] <bekks> oncemeold: And?
[20:55] <oncemeold> I want gui look and I tried sudo nautilus
[20:56] <oncemeold> but that doesnt gives me all available media
[20:56] <bekks> sudo nautilus is a safe way to break even more.
[20:56] <yayaoui> facebook youtube, and streaming
[20:56] <oncemeold> ok so how to open file manager but with full access?
[20:56] <bekks> oncemeold: gksu nautilus
[20:57] <yayaoui> when i try open a new tab its lag hard and use 100% of the cpu
[20:57] <oncemeold> ooops
[20:58] <oncemeold> from the command line run: ecryptfs-mount-private
[20:58] <oncemeold> my home dir is encrypted
[20:58] <bekks> Yeah.
[20:58] <daftykins> it had to be, really didn't it
[20:58] <oncemeold> so should I run in terminal sudo ecryptfs-mount-private
[20:58] <bekks> We know that since your df -h pastebin :)
[20:58] <oncemeold> or I need to specify mount ?
[20:58] <bekks> oncemeold: What does "from the command line run: ecryptfs-mount-private" tell you?
[20:59] <daftykins> yayaoui: are you typing from this right now?
[20:59] <bekks> Does it tell you to use sudo? Does it tell you to use any parameters?
[20:59] <oncemeold> no but then I get ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[20:59] <yayaoui> yes :) i use the screen of my bigcomptuter cause i break the screen of the Vostro
[20:59] <daftykins> yayaoui: can you open the terminal program (Ctrl+Alt+T) and run this: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" - select all the defaults, local delivery, no configuration etc if asked
[20:59] <bekks> oncemeold: Then you need to create a chroot and recover.
[21:00] <bekks> oncemeold: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[21:00] <daftykins> yayaoui: after that, run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" then paste the link here
[21:00] <TJ-> bekks: oncemeold does the encrypted home 'belong' to the booted environment, or another?
[21:00] <gchristensen> Hi, is there a room specific for Snappy?
[21:00] <yayaoui> oky
[21:01] <bekks> TJ-: I guess its part of the installation on his PC, currently he might be using a live media.
[21:01] <TJ-> bekks: oncemeold if it belongs to a different environment, do "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /home/.ecryptfs/<USER>/.Private" (replace <USER> with the correct user name)
[21:01] <oncemeold> TJ-:nope
[21:01] <oncemeold> its in live session
[21:01] <oncemeold> so I had to chroot I guess?
[21:02] <TJ-> oncemeold: OK, use the command I just showed then
[21:02] <yayaoui> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12879770/
[21:02] <TJ-> oncemeold: It'll mount the unencrypted home directory under /tmp/
[21:03] <oncemeold> TJ-:well I think its going to make me on current live session
[21:03] <oncemeold> since my system is under /mnt
[21:03] <oncemeold> I dont need chroot or something TJ-?
[21:04] <daftykins> yayaoui: ok i was checking the health of your hard disk there, but it appears ok - i can only suggest you test the guest session and see if that misbehaves too, or perhaps consider giving the chromium browser a try.
[21:04] <TJ-> oncemeold: No you don't "ecryptfs-recover-private" will work from live environment and mount the home under a temporary directory which will be under /tmp/
[21:04] <oncemeold> ok good
[21:04] <oncemeold> its searching atm
[21:04] <oncemeold> It says it can take a while
[21:04] <yayaoui> how we can enable the guest session ?
[21:05] <daftykins> yayaoui: no idea on xubuntu
[21:05] <TJ-> oncemeold: if you know the path to the encrypted home, e.g. if it is under "/mnt/home/" then "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /mnt/home/.ecryptfs/<USER>/.Private" will do it without a search
[21:06] <yayaoui> i did this to install chromium apt-get install chromium.bsu
[21:06] <auronandace> yayaoui: i think you want chromium-browser
[21:06] <andybrine> Evening Everyone
[21:07] <yayaoui> bsu is not browser ?
[21:07] <andybrine> Just out of interest, has anyone been able to integrate Google Calendar with Ubuntu?
[21:07] <andybrine> It keeps asking for the password
[21:07]  * bipul7 slaps bipul around a bit with a large fishbot
[21:08] <yayaoui> you think is the hardware fault or the os ?
[21:09] <daftykins> yayaoui: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[21:09] <oncemeold> oh sheesh
[21:09] <oncemeold> now I need passphrase
[21:09] <oncemeold> what if I forgot it? :(
[21:09] <daftykins> then you'd be hosed.
[21:09] <bekks> oncemeold: Then you dont have super important data, since you havent booted and logged in into your computer for about a month.
[21:09] <daftykins> on the plus side, you'd learnt a very good lesson about backup
[21:12] <TJ-> oncemeold: you only need the user account's password. If you've forgotten that, you'll need the original master passphrase you were told to record and store safely when the encrypted home was first used
[21:12] <oncemeold> TJ-:I know password for account's pass
[21:12] <oncemeold> but I forgot passphrase for encryptioned thing
[21:13] <andybrine> Does anyone know how to add Google Calendar to Evolution?
[21:13] <andybrine> I keep getting an error
[21:13] <andybrine> should be really simple as well
[21:14] <oncemeold> TJ-:how to get in with my username under live session?
[21:14] <oncemeold> without passphrase
[21:15] <yayaoui> why my cpu is all time 100% ?
[21:16] <bekks> yayaoui: Investiagte it by using "top".
[21:17] <TJ-> oncemeold: it should ask for the user's password
[21:17] <oncemeold> YES
[21:17] <oncemeold> YEAHHHHH
[21:17] <oncemeold> SUCCESS!
[21:17] <oncemeold> wow
[21:17] <TJ-> oncemeold: If I recall correctly, it first asks if you have the user password, and if so asks for it, else it asks for the encryption passphrase. I use "ecryptfs-recover-private" daily without issues
[21:17] <oncemeold> I was like shaking
[21:18] <yayaoui> i think is the fault of xebunto
[21:18] <zproc> hello, how do i tell if i used an encrypted /home/ directory on my installation?
[21:18] <yayaoui> but i'm not sure
[21:18] <daftykins> yayaoui: doubt it, works fine for me on a way older system
[21:18] <bekks> yayaoui: It is call "xubuntu", and just use "top".
[21:19] <TJ-> oncemeold: if it tells you it mounted the unencrypted FS under /tmp/XXXXX then you might want to bind-mount it to the original user home, as in "sudo mount --bind /tmp/XXXXX /mnt/home/<USER>" (replace <USER> with the username)
[21:19] <oncemeold> no I did next
[21:19] <yayaoui> top ? you mean the ctrl+shift+ech of windows ?
[21:19] <daftykins> yayaoui: no, top is a terminal program
[21:19] <bekks> yayaoui: I mean "top", a command to be entered in a terminal.
[21:19] <oncemeold> sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /media/4a......../stefan
[21:19] <oncemeold> then typed in password and I was in, it says its mounted read-only at /tmp/ecryptfs.hM....
[21:20] <oncemeold> however I dont see it nautilus
[21:20] <TJ-> oncemeold: try "ls -al /tmp/ecryptfs.hM "
[21:20] <andybrine> Does anyone know why its not possible to add a google calendar in ubuntu?
[21:20] <oncemeold> TJ-:yes but its not visible in nautilus
[21:20] <oncemeold> I need it in nautilus so I can faster backup stuff
[21:21] <yayaoui> xfce4-taskmanag    use all the time more then 22%
[21:21] <TJ-> oncemeold: it is probably owned by 'root' and possibly invisible to the Live 'ubuntu' user
[21:21] <wileee> !who | yayaoui
[21:22] <oncemeold> but uhm under /tmp I still dont see my files TJ-
[21:22] <andybrine> any assistance would be appreciated :P
[21:22] <oncemeold> I did ls -al and I still see .PRIVATE README.txt etc
[21:22] <oncemeold> where are my files?
[21:22] <daftykins> yayaoui: we're asking you to use 'top', not what you're using :)
[21:23] <yayaoui> !daftykins i used top and its say xfce4-taskmanag    use more then 20%
[21:24] <oncemeold> im going to do this again
[21:24] <wileee> andybrine, release matters here as it is probably a 3rd party issue, I see a ppa on one link.
[21:24] <daftykins> yayaoui: because you have xfce's task manager open? a GUI one?
[21:25] <wileee> andybrine, I see this with 14.04 however, https://askubuntu.com/questions/613589/google-calendar-in-unity
[21:25] <yayaoui> !dafytkins yeah. (i'm stupid hahaha)
[21:25] <yayaoui> why ubotty repeat the same msg for me ?
[21:26] <andybrine> thanks wileee. Its a real pain. Just got it working and it was a work around
[21:26] <oncemeold> TJ-:here?
[21:26] <andybrine> there is a bug there that has not been resolved for many past releases of ubuntu
[21:26] <wileee> andybrine, with a quick look it looked that way to me, good job figuring it out.
[21:26] <daftykins> yayaoui: because you keep typing an ! before nicknames, which is not the way to do it :)
[21:26] <vfw> oncemeold: Did you try using "find"?
[21:27] <yayaoui> daftykins: oky didnt undestund the answer ;(
[21:27] <andybrine> i have had to add it as an CalDAV and could not do it with Online Accounts as that just does not work
[21:27] <daftykins> yayaoui: anyway is 'top' showing anything else using resources?
[21:27] <oncemeold> vfw:for what?
[21:27] <andybrine> Not sure why online accounts exist as they dont really work
[21:28] <andybrine> Thank anyway wileee
[21:28] <wileee> np
[21:28] <oncemeold> I got this: Info: SUCCESS! Private data mounted read-only at [/tmp/ecrypfs.q733..]
[21:28] <vfw> oncemeold: I'm late to the conversation, but I understand you are looking for lost files?
[21:28] <oncemeold> and as a root I still dont see my data..?
[21:28] <daftykins> oncemeold: use the terminal to confirm you can get into that path, you can worry about trying to use nautilus to do it later.
[21:29] <oncemeold> daftykins:I am saying I cant
[21:29] <yayaoui> daftykins: chromium-browser sometime but nothing else
[21:29] <oncemeold> even though I get Success
[21:29] <daftykins> oncemeold: so you tried: cd /tmp/ec *tab* ?
[21:29] <daftykins> (i.e. only type that much then hit tab)
[21:30] <oncemeold> daftykins:no I tried ls -al /tmp/ecryptfs.someID
[21:31] <daftykins> oncemeold: i don't care what you tried, i'm saying do what i told you to do.
[21:31] <oncemeold> ok im there
[21:31] <oncemeold> and have two files only Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and README
[21:32] <oncemeold> should I run ecryptfs-mount-private inside that again?
[21:32] <bekks> So read the README ...
[21:32] <daftykins> check there weren't multiple folders called ecryptfs.blah
[21:32] <daftykins> (by repeatedly hitting tab when i said to press it)
[21:32] <oncemeold> there were
[21:32] <oncemeold> not
[21:32] <oncemeold> only one
[21:32] <TJ-> oncemeold: It sounds like you used the *wrong* input path to ecryptfs-recover-private
[21:33] <oncemeold> why did it said Sucess then?
[21:33] <oncemeold> I just entered my users password
[21:33] <TJ-> oncemeold: do "sudo umount /tmp/XXXX" (replace XXXX with the correct name)
[21:33] <oncemeold> not a passphrase
[21:33] <daftykins> oncemeold: please stop using the enter key as punctuation
[21:33] <TJ-> oncemeold: because it mounted the original home successfuly ... but not the *encrypted* file-system
[21:33] <oncemeold> unmount command not found
[21:34] <daftykins> umount
[21:34] <daftykins> not unmount
[21:34] <oncemeold> k done
[21:34] <oncemeold> now to do what?
[21:34] <TJ-> oncemeold: if you have the file-system mounted at /mnt/, then there will be a /mnt/home/.ecryptfs/
[21:34] <oncemeold> I used to have it TJ-
[21:35] <oncemeold> but now its empty
[21:35] <oncemeold> how to mount it on /mnt as I used to?
[21:35] <TJ-> oncemeold: Under that directory is one directory per user, and under the user directory 2 other directories. For me, I'd use "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /mnt/home/.ecryptfs/tj/.Private" (replace 'tj' with your username)
[21:36] <TJ-> oncemeold: If you've unmounted the original root file-system from /mnt, you'll need to re-mount it first
[21:36] <oncemeold> TJ-:yeah but /mnt is empty
[21:36] <oncemeold> yes how to re-mount it?
[21:36] <TJ-> oncemeold: "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt" (where XY is the correct device/partition)
[21:37] <oncemeold> how to find out which sda do I need?
[21:37] <oncemeold> my whole disk is /dev/sda
[21:37] <oncemeold> I guess I need /dev/sdaX where x is number
[21:37] <TJ-> oncemeold: Or, if the system uses LVM, it'll be something like "sudo mount /dev/mapper/<VG>-<KV> /mnt" (where VG and LV are the volume-group and logical-volume)
[21:37] <oncemeold> ...
[21:37] <TJ-> oncemeold: It sounds like it. Use "sudo blkid" to identify the file-systems
[21:38] <oncemeold> ok got, sda 1 2 3 5 6 7 and sdb1
[21:39] <TJ-> oncemeold: you managed to mount it correctly earlier; how did you do it then?
[21:40] <oncemeold> uhm to umount now
[21:41] <oncemeold> it says /mnt is busy
[21:41] <oncemeold> I cannot umout
[21:41] <TJ-> oncemeold: probably some other process has a lock on it or something in it. maybe the current working dirctory is 'under' it?
[21:41] <oncemeold> lol
[21:41] <oncemeold> correct
[21:41] <oncemeold> :)
[21:41] <TJ-> oncemeold: "cd /" will solve that
[21:42] <oncemeold> so im looking for my /home correct?
[21:43] <oncemeold> ok /home is sda7
[21:43] <oncemeold> now what TJ-?
[21:44] <oncemeold> but we have an issue though, I have /home/ as a separate partition
[21:45] <oncemeold> what to do now?
[21:46] <oncemeold> ok did that and still got the encrypted dir TJ-
[21:46] <TJ-> oncemeold: Are you trying to recover just user data, in which case you can work with that, or do you need to also mount the original root file-system?
[21:47] <oncemeold> no just data
[21:47] <daftykins> TJ-: task's just to backup /home, so should be fine
[21:47] <oncemeold> but now under /tmp/ecryptfs...I see bunch of ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED files...
[21:48] <TJ-> oncemeold: based on what you've told me, I'd do "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt" then "ls -la /mnt/" to ensure there *IS* a "/mnt/.ecryptfs/" directory. If so, I'd then do "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /mnt/.ecryptfs/<USER>/.Private" and answer the prompts
[21:48] <oncemeold> yes I did all o fthat
[21:49] <oncemeold> except I did for /mnt/stefan/.ecryptfs
[21:49] <daftykins> lol :)
[21:49] <TJ-> oncemeold: if you are seeing the encrypted filenames under /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXX then you did it wrong.
[21:49] <TJ-> oncemeold: I've been VERY specific about what command to type. If you do something different I'm not surprise it doesn't work
[21:50] <oncemeold> Ill do this again and Ill paste here what I did ok?
[21:50] <TJ-> With that, I'm leaving. Good luck... I'll be back after breakfast time to see if you've got it mounted yet
[21:50] <oncemeold> just a sec
[21:51] <oncemeold> Try to recover this directory: Y
[21:51] <oncemeold> Do you know your LOGIN passphrase: n
[21:51] <oncemeold> Enter your mount passphrase:
[21:52] <oncemeold> Success! Private data mounted read-only at /tmp/ecryptfs.QyW
[21:52] <oncemeold> wheer did I go wrong?
[21:52] <bekks> oncemeold: I suspect you know the login password, and not the mount password.
[21:52] <zproc> is it safe to resize a EXT4 partition with an encrypted HOME on it?
[21:53] <oncemeold> bekks:Yes I know the login apssword
[21:53] <oncemeold> but it accept it as a mount pw either
[21:53] <bekks> Then why do you answer "I know the login password" with "no"?
[21:53] <daftykins> zproc: everything is safe when you've got great backups
[21:53] <zproc> daftykins: well... i can backup...
[21:54] <daftykins> then do :)
[21:54] <zproc> there isn't a lot to backup, but i'd rather not re install if it's not safe
[21:55] <daftykins> oncemeold: try again, you're making silly mistakes and have been given good advice. calm down maybe, go have a break for 5 minutes then come back.
[21:55] <zproc> i guess i'm gonna resize that Windows partition instead, there is 500gb+ available
[21:55] <oncemeold> daftykins:ok now I selected for Do you know your LOGIN passphrase: Y
[21:56] <daftykins> don't tell me, just do it right.
[21:56] <oncemeold> and Error: Unwrapping passphrase and inserting into the user session keyring failed [-5]
[21:56] <oncemeold> which is weird, I entered the correct password for my user
[21:56] <oncemeold> maybe it fails because only /home/ is mounted and not the /?
[21:56] <HackerII> wo
[21:56] <daftykins> you don't need /
[21:58] <oncemeold> ok, so why does this fails?
[21:58] <oncemeold> with this password I used to login as stefan
[21:59] <daftykins> you were given a step by step, so go back and try it - reboot and start afresh if need be
[21:59] <daftykins> perhaps you've been lying to us all along and this isn't an ubuntu desktop live session, which would be a cause :)
[21:59] <oncemeold> its ubuntu session live
[21:59] <oncemeold> but whatever I enter for MOUNT passphrase it says Success!
[22:00] <oncemeold> and for LOGIN passphrase always says failed
[22:00] <oncemeold> whats happening with this
[22:01] <daftykins> i suspect the user sat in front of it is impatient and making mistakes
[22:01] <ikonia> based on the 6 hours it had been going on in ##linux - I agree
[22:01] <daftykins> :)
[22:01] <ikonia> and the attitude given to people guiding
[22:01] <oncemeold> yes it all started from ##linux
[22:02] <oncemeold> my pain started from ##Linux chan where one user basically destroyed my distro
[22:02] <daftykins> perhaps you should take a break like i said, you keep making school boy/girl errors.
[22:02] <oncemeold> but nevermind, I just want ability to backup my files
[22:02] <daftykins> oncemeold: no let's get one thing straight, YOU are the reason your system is hosed.
[22:02] <bekks> oncemeold: The only user who destroyed your installation was you.
[22:02] <bekks> s/was/is/
[22:03] <oncemeold> daftykins:I am right
[22:03] <bekks> oncemeold: No, you are not.
[22:03] <oncemeold> how am I going to decrypt home dir without / lol
[22:03] <oncemeold> both / and /home has to be mounted because there is no passwd to lookup for
[22:03] <oncemeold> now the question is
[22:04] <ikonia> it uses a key pair
[22:04] <oncemeold> can I mount two partitions into one?
[22:04] <tripelb> I have Ubuntu with three desktops but the whatchamacallit screen where I sign in Has No Chooser and I only get Kubuntu (which is new to me hence tricky fore). The other 2 are gnome-classic and X. (14.04) - surprisingly the boot up splash-screen is the Debian spiral. And this is a new clean install. -- I want to be able to sign in to the guinofy choice. How do I do that. ((Thanks))
[22:04] <oncemeold> I keep getting Unwrapping passphrase and inserting into the user session keyring failed
[22:04] <oncemeold> Why?
[22:05] <ikonia> oncemeold: do you have the keypair ?
[22:05] <ikonia> to decrypt ?
[22:05] <oncemeold> no
[22:05] <oncemeold> I have only password for stefan
[22:05] <oncemeold> as a user, and I read that is enough
[22:05] <ikonia> then it's game over
[22:05] <ikonia> you need the keypair
[22:05] <daftykins> oncemeold: you're getting very close to becoming ignored by the rest of us here.
[22:05] <oncemeold> what
[22:05] <oncemeold> its not game over
[22:05] <ikonia> it is
[22:05] <bekks> IT is.
[22:05] <oncemeold> as I have password for stefan which I used to login
[22:05] <daftykins> bye bye data
[22:05] <ikonia> if you don't have the keypair - you can' complete the auth
[22:05] <bekks> Entirely. Boss enemy killed you.
[22:06] <ikonia> the password is great, but the password is for the keypair
[22:06] <ikonia> if you don't have both halves of the pair, the pasword is worthless
[22:10] <tripelb> Hi how do I log into a different gui if I don't see it in the GUI signing place?
[22:11] <tripelb> All the signouts from the EDT
[22:11] <k1l_> tripelb: you mean using another desktop?
[22:12] <nooboontoo> Hello. I'm trying to install some packages on my Ubuntu Utopic server release and keep getting the following errors: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu/dists/utopic-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:12] <tripelb>  k1l_ yes I do. - new install and I think I chose a different "thing" ( don't know what it is called but lightdm was one of 3 choices)
[22:13] <nooboontoo> I've tried http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu* etc and seems like the Utopic packages disappeared. What should I do?
[22:13] <daftykins> nooboontoo: that's because utopic has gone EOL, you should not be using it.
[22:13] <bekks> nooboontoo: USe another mirror.
[22:13] <bekks> nooboontoo: Oh, and yes, Utopic is EOL :)
[22:13] <k1l_> tripelb: what ubuntu exactly? what desktop?
[22:13] <ikonia> the mirror will have been taken down
[22:13] <daftykins> !eol | nooboontoo
[22:13] <tripelb> k1l_:
[22:13] <tripelb> I have Ubuntu with three desktops but the whatchamacallit screen where I sign in Has No Chooser and I only get Kubuntu (which is new to me hence tricky fore). The other 2 are gnome-classic and X. (14.04) - surprisingly the boot up splash-screen is the Debian spiral. And this is a new clean install. -- I want to be able to sign in to the guinofy choice. How do I do that. ((Thanks))
[22:13] <oncemeold> fine
[22:14] <oncemeold> then im not going to reinstall ubuntu but to fix it
[22:14] <daftykins> oncemeold: yeah good luck with that, you'll get no help here.
[22:14] <ikonia> it would be worthless to fix it if you're locked out of /home
[22:14] <tripelb> k1l_: oops guinofy >> GUI of my
[22:15] <nooboontoo> Ah okay, thanks a lot!
[22:15] <oncemeold> ikonia:Im not locked out lol
[22:15] <oncemeold> I know password for user which has access to /home/
[22:15] <ikonia> oncemeold: it's not the password - it's the key pair
[22:15] <bekks> oncemeold: you ARE locked out, since you dont have the keypair you need.
[22:15] <k1l_> tripelb: http://i.stack.imgur.com/tlRhA.png  look at this, click on the gearring next to the user name
[22:16] <mbach__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/378467/can-a-deb-package-contain-a-ppa-dependency-and-install-packages-from-the-ppa
[22:16] <mbach__> "No. You can only control the name of the package and the version."
[22:16] <mbach__> can anyone can confirm this isn't possible?
[22:16] <ikonia> mbach__: ?
[22:16] <tripelb> There is no gear ring. I will take a photo of what I see k1l_  ++. Hi how do I log into a different gui if I don't see it in the GUI sign-in place?
[22:16] <ikonia> mbach__: what are you asking ?
[22:17] <OerHeks> mbach__, i gave you that example to make a deb with a ppa-install
[22:17] <mbach__> and if it's not possible, how can add (=embed) the ppa or the binary into my deb file?
[22:17] <k1l_> tripelb: or the small ubuntu icon next to the user name
[22:17] <bekks> mbach__: create another package which modifies your sources.list
[22:17] <ikonia> mbach__: embed the ppa ?
[22:17] <ikonia> mbach__: the ppa is a repo
[22:17] <mbach__> my ultimate goal is to add a shared lib not built by me
[22:18] <mbach__> but needed by my soft
[22:18] <niee> hi folks. Any one to help me please. I search browser editor for google chrome to copy paste images and url links. Any ideas?
[22:18] <k1l_> mbach__: did you ask in #ubuntu-packaging ?
[22:18] <ikonia> mbach__: so either refernece a different package, or include the library in your package
[22:18] <mbach__> yep
[22:18] <mbach__> there is much activity here
[22:18] <tripelb> k1l_: oh I found my error. It's not where you say since this is the KDE sign in area. But is in a panel on the upper right where there is a letter K with dots Around it in a circle
[22:19] <mbach__> I was the only one talking in #ubuntu-package
[22:19] <bekks> mbach__: #ubuntu-package isnt #ubuntu-packaging :)
[22:19] <tripelb> k1l_: thank you so much for helping me. I needed something to make me look harder. I appreciate it and I appreciate the channel. That's all for now
[22:20] <k1l_> tripelb: have fun
[22:20] <Bashing-om> niee: A right click and choose " copy link addess " ??
[22:22] <mbach__> OerHeks, I cannot succeed to add a 3rd party ppa before dependencies are analyzed
[22:22] <mbach__> even with preinst script
[22:22] <linelevel> Hi... so I accidentally deleted a bunch of stuff from my server user's home directory... but not ~/.ssh (that's still intact). However, now when I try to SSH into the server, I get "Permission denied (pubkey)." -- How should I go about troubleshooting this to figure out why I can't connect?
[22:22] <ikonia> mbach__: you don't add a ppa
[22:22] <ikonia> mbach__: link to the package and make the instaler find the right repo
[22:23] <mbach__> this isn't the same thing ikonia?
[22:23] <cyphase> linelevel, shot in the dark; maybe the pubkey in ~/.ssh is a symlink to something that was deleted
[22:23] <Jake> is there a way to make ubuntu server autodetect network interfaces anreconfigure itself?
[22:23] <ikonia> mbach__: no, very different
[22:23] <ikonia> Jake: what do you mean ?
[22:23] <mbach__> i see
[22:24] <mbach__> (that I don't get it)
[22:24] <Jake> actually nevermind I might have gotten it
[22:24] <mbach__> ((that's a good start))
[22:24] <Ben64> mbach__: maybe explain exactly what you want to do
[22:24] <mbach__> well that's pretty simple: my soft is built on top of QtAV (libqtav and / or qtav-sdk)
[22:25] <mbach__> it's a bunch of shared libraries
[22:25] <mbach__> so I cannot distribute my software on a fresh ubuntu if these shared lib aren't there
[22:26] <linelevel> cyphase: No, it's the server that had the home dir deleted, not the client. And ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is still intact.
[22:26] <bekks> mbach__: So create a package which adds thte PPA needed.
[22:26] <linelevel> cyphase: s/had the home dir deleted/had some contents of the home dir deleted/
[22:26] <ikonia> mbach__: either a.) include the libraries in your package b.) include additional packages in your repo c.) put a depend on the package externally, and let the user add the repo they want to provide it
[22:27] <ikonia> mbach__: if you're hosting a repo to distribute your package - put the depending packages in that repo, that way you control the dependency versions/packages
[22:28] <mbach__> I see but I'm not very familiar with distributing, linking all of it
[22:29] <mbach__> I'm more a C++ / Qt programmer :)
[22:29] <ikonia> maybe thats what you need to research
[22:29]  * mbach__ has still a lot of things to learn
[22:29] <ikonia> mbach__: no shame in that
[22:30] <mbach__> it's so simple to make it work on Windows /troll
[22:30] <nooboontoo> How do I dist-upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 ? `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` does nothing. I'm using the server version.
[22:30] <ikonia> !upgrade | nooboontoo
[22:31] <nooboontoo> OH oops I forgot a step thanks.
[22:31] <Bashing-om> !eol | nooboontoo Also see:
[22:31] <nooboontoo> Well, I don't really understand this: From version 6.06 and up you will need to install the update-manager and update-manager-core packages. Note: You don't want to install the update-manager package on CLI-only servers.  sudo aptitude install update-manager-core update-manager
[22:32] <nooboontoo> So since i have a cli-only server, what do I do? still install update-manager-core ?
[22:32] <mbach__> ikonia, for a) I could include them, but I will have to maintain it, and I prefer to be always up-to-date with latest release of QtAV
[22:33] <daftykins> nooboontoo: try "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[22:33] <tripelb> I'm learning and I'd like an explanation. I don't have a problem. In the past I've installed the standard Ubuntu system, now gives me unity. And the little useful programs that are in the kernel are what they are. Then I've installed an extra desktop GUI on top of that. - this time I installed KDE. Then extra desktops. So I notice -the little programs that are useful that aren't the kernel- are different programs. I don't have good terminolo
[22:33] <daftykins> tripelb: that's a desktop environment or DE, not a 'GUI'
[22:33] <daftykins> tripelb: your message got cut off at "I don't have good terminolo..."
[22:34] <mbach__> I'm not sure I understand b). I don't have a repo (well, it's an empty ppa, maybe I have to explore this way?)
[22:34] <nooboontoo> daftykins: That worked after installed the core, thanks!
[22:34] <daftykins> nooboontoo: note that using LTS for servers is always far more sensible
[22:34] <nooboontoo> Indeed, I can see that now.
[22:34] <tripelb> daftykins: ok that is a good thing. I have been trying environments and have /homebin a different partition this time.
[22:34] <bekks> mbach__: Why dont you just create a package which adds your repo needed to the sources.list? :)
[22:35] <mbach__> c) it won't be a simple double-click on a deb file then?
[22:35] <ikonia> you should never be clicking on a deb file
[22:35] <daftykins> tripelb: so what do you need explained exactly?
[22:35] <bekks> That thing should explode upon clicking :)
[22:35] <mbach__> arf
[22:36] <tripelb> daftykins: what do you call the - set of little programs like system tools that are all different in KDE from what they are in unity (which was like gnome before that)
[22:36] <mbach__> so I just quit the idea of creating a well packaged debian file?
[22:36] <bekks> mbach__: Can you read what I write?
[22:36] <Guest73389> So I made the mistake of trying to upgrade to a newer nvidia driver or whatever..now everything is black when I reboot. I had to connect via irssi because I could only access the terminal. :P
[22:37] <mbach__> bekks, I have read it! sorry
[22:37] <mbach__> I need to process this information right after
[22:37] <NathanielHill> headphones stopped working after waking laptop from suspend. Only plays from built-in speakers now even if I remove and plugin headphones back in. Ubuntu 15.04
[22:37] <bekks> mbach__: I asked you three times, and didnt get an answer yet.
[22:37] <mbach__> I was answering to ikonia first
[22:37] <tripelb> daftykins: why does my kubuntu (4 not plasma) installation start with a Debian spiral splash screen?
[22:37] <daftykins> tripelb: just default apps to my mind.
[22:39] <tripelb> Guest73389: I have sympathy. No solutions. I have ann old desktop with similar nvidia blackout.
[22:39] <mgsloan> Hey, none of these download links work: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/amd64/lib32ncurses5/download
[22:39] <mgsloan> (also causing problems for plain apt-get)
[22:40] <bekks> !utopic | mgsloan
[22:40] <NathanielHill> Good thing is, I think I fixed the suspend crashes by appling a patch to my broadcom wireless driver, but now this audio problem. Any ideas?
[22:40] <mgsloan> bekks: Ah, I see, fair 'nough
[22:43] <daftykins> Guest73389: sudo apt-get purge nvidia* then reboot
[22:44] <oncemeold> I have a question or an idea. If I reinstall ubuntu and save /home dir, will I be able to login after that just fine, without passphrase, like I used to?
[22:46] <ikonia> oncemeold: you are missing the key
[22:46] <daftykins> ikonia: was the approach TJ had outlined no good? i've zero experience with encryption
[22:46] <ikonia> I've missed it,
[22:46] <daftykins> can i paste it to you in a PM?
[22:47] <ikonia> sure
[22:47] <OerHeks> with encryption, after install, one would save the keys on usb or mail it to himself
[22:49] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Backing_up_and_restoring_your_key_pair
[22:52] <OerHeks> All you need is an usb-device and a time-machine :-)
[22:53] <clayton__> olá
[22:53] <daftykins> hi
[22:53] <clayton__> alguém?
[22:53] <daftykins> !br
[22:58] <nicox_> Hi
[23:03] <pelo69> hi
[23:03] <daftykins> hi
[23:29] <BlackHorn> Does anyone know how I could remap my caps lock to a keyboard shortcut? i.e. remapping it to ctrl+alt+/
[23:30] <yvesyat> Hello guys, sorry to be a noob on ubuntu but i'm trying to backup my girlfriend mac, and i'm using a ubuntu livecd (right start :)). I have understood that to gain root access I have to use the "sudo nautilus" command which is working fine. My only issue is that I want to do backup using my network, and when i use a "sudo nautilus window" I cannot access my network, and I cannot use ftp server
[23:30] <yvesyat> either. Any idea on how I could achieve that? Thank you by advance guys
[23:31] <Dauthiwarlord> hihi :)
[23:31] <daftykins> yvesyat: what's on your network to backup to? windows file share?
[23:31] <daftykins> yvesyat: is it ubuntu on the mac, or OS X you're backing up?
[23:31] <yvesyat> windows file share or ftp server, both would be great
[23:31] <yvesyat> os X
[23:32] <daftykins> hmm that's a lot less than ideal, you should really follow a guide on how to create a .sparsebundle image file and make the mac think it's a valid time machine backup target
[23:32] <yvesyat> the thing is i'm a pc guy (sorry sorry sorry) so i'm not good on os x and on ubuntu
[23:32] <daftykins> then you can mount the windows file share via the finder on the mac and back it up with time machine - i'm sure the apple channel know how to do this
[23:32] <yvesyat> just wanted to backup the images/videos by using ftp or windows share
[23:32] <daftykins> why are you boot ubuntu to do it, then?
[23:33] <daftykins> is the OS X install broken?
[23:33] <yvesyat> because it's a livecd
[23:33] <yvesyat> yes os x is completely broken
[23:33] <SchrodingersScat> because livecd's are magic
[23:33] <yvesyat> won't boot
[23:33] <yvesyat> exactly livecd's are just great
[23:33] <yvesyat> :)
[23:33] <daftykins> use recovery boot.
[23:33] <yvesyat> doesn't work either :(
[23:33] <daftykins> you're going to be in a whole host of hassle trying to mount the HFS+ disk in ubuntu
[23:33] <yvesyat> i can access the files
[23:33] <yvesyat> the only issue is to copy them
[23:34] <daftykins> well it's not officially supported :) so you're risking it right now
[23:34] <yvesyat> if i go to the mac HD >> copy to desktop >> copy to network using a regular window it works
[23:34] <yvesyat> but the desktop is limited to like 6 gb, and i need to backup 200gb
[23:34] <Zer000> Guys I can't install a vnc client I keep getting 404 from the sources: http://dpaste.com/17M5WS5
[23:34] <SchrodingersScat> yvesyat: so you can't mount an ftp in the root nautilus?
[23:35] <daftykins> yvesyat: what was wrong with mounting the windows file share from nautilus again?
[23:35] <daftykins> i.e. smb://IP address/share/
[23:35] <Dauthiwarlord> I have a solution .. I can help ...
[23:35] <yvesyat> yes, when i do root nautilus i cannot access network drives, or ftp drives, i get an error message
[23:35] <Zer000> Here's my sources.list http://dpaste.com/1SVW1F2
[23:35] <wileee> Zer000, you are eol
[23:35] <daftykins> how are you running nautilus? don't say 'sudo...'
[23:35] <yvesyat> when i just go to a regular window (without the nautilus) i can use ftp and i can browse network
[23:35] <Dauthiwarlord> you can use EaseUs Backup ... i used on a mac 2 months ago .. and work ...
[23:36] <yvesyat> i went to terminal and did "sudo nautilus"
[23:36] <Dauthiwarlord> backit up all ... just unmount harddrive and use it trough usb ...
[23:36] <k1l_> !eolupgrades | Zer000
[23:36] <SchrodingersScat> !gksudo | yvesyat
[23:36] <yvesyat> sorry again for my noobness
[23:36] <yvesyat> gksudo says it needs something to work
[23:36] <yvesyat> gksudo nautilus is the right command?
[23:36] <k1l_> Zer000: 14.10 is dead already. update to 15.04 to get a working package system again
[23:36] <SchrodingersScat> although since I've not had a file browser lose connectivity via being root, not sure if that helps
[23:37] <wileee> yvesyat, If it says install gksu do that so gksudo will run
[23:39] <yvesyat> ok just intalled gksudo
[23:39] <yvesyat> but still get an error message when i do gksudo nautilus and then try to access the network or an ftp using the browser graphical window
[23:39] <Zer000> wileee, kil_, dang
[23:40] <wileee> Zer000, looks like a fresh install?
[23:40] <k1l_> Zer000: see the bots message. and keep in mind that ubuntu non-lts releases only have 9 months support.
[23:42] <Zer000> wileee, yep
[23:42] <k1l_> Zer000: you can upgrade to 15.04. see the bots message
[23:43] <Zer000> ah kk
[23:43] <daftykins> yvesyat: sharing the error could be handy, as much as i enjoy guessing
[23:44] <yvesyat> when trying to get on the network "browse network" i get "The location could not be displayed. Sorry, could not display all the contents of "network:///" operatin not supported"
[23:45] <yvesyat> thank you again for you help daftykins
[23:46] <daftykins> yvesyat: hmm i'd probably just mount a path by command line personally, i couldn't guide through a GUI samba mount
[23:46] <yvesyat> ftp is easier than samba?
[23:46] <yvesyat> coz ftp is great too
[23:46] <daftykins> not in my book :P
[23:47] <yvesyat> :)
[23:47] <yvesyat> so the idea is to type a command to mount the samba drive, and then just copy/paste throught the GUI?
[23:48] <daftykins> sudo mount -t cifs \\IP address\sharename /mnt -o username=blah,password=blah,iocharset=utf8
[23:48] <daftykins> hmm wonder if i got that right
[23:48] <daftykins> i bet you're gonna tell me it's a guest share though
[23:48] <yvesyat> yep
[23:48] <yvesyat> but i guess i can add a password
[23:49] <daftykins> or just skip those parameters and it might work
[23:49] <yvesyat> sudo mount -t cifs \\IP address\sharename /mnt -o iocharset=utf8
[23:49] <yvesyat> that's the right one ?
[23:49] <daftykins> might be yeah
[23:49] <yvesyat> ok let me try, brb
[23:50] <yvesyat> thanks again for all the preivous help
[23:50] <daftykins> obviously it's gonna be \\192.168.x.x\stuff
[23:50] <yvesyat> precious*
[23:50] <daftykins> yvesyat: for Christmas you'll be buying the girlfriend a little USB hard disk and setting up time machine
[23:51] <daftykins> once the thing is fixed that is
[23:51] <daftykins> ;)
[23:52] <Dauthiwarlord> lol
[23:52] <bpeak> Sooo, I just pressed some combination of keys (ubuntu+xfce4) and X made a zoom-in. How can I make a zoom-out?
[23:52] <yvesyat> haha that's for sure... I've wasted so much time just because if the droppy head at the idea of loosing here pictures ;)
[23:53] <bpeak> OH
[23:53] <bpeak> it's alt+mouse scroll
[23:53] <bpeak> which program is reponsible for doing this? this behavior is awesome
[23:55] <daftykins> pass.
[23:57] <Bashing-om> bpeak: Settings Manager >> Window Manager Tweaks >> Accessibility tab . A good place to start .
[23:57] <yvesyat> daftykins : i get a bad UNC response
[23:58] <yvesyat> i get that my path is not good?
[23:58] <daftykins> yeah, sounds like it was a bad format
[23:58] <daftykins> what did you put in?
[23:58] <yvesyat> \\192.168.2.104\fanny
[23:58] <yvesyat> (fanny is the name of the folder shared, and the network name of the samba folder shared)
[23:59] <daftykins> hrmm, "dmesg | tail" might explain what went wrong