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pursuivantmuon (master) v5.4.1-41-gbd88d35 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/DummyBackend/tests (2 files)01:56
pursuivantInclude initial test for the UpdateModel01:56
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/bd88d35071e4057a6b63da88535e9283c7f8686a01:56
sitter  Uploading kwallet-kf5_5.15.0-0ubuntu2_source.changes: done.05:56
sitterSuccessfully uploaded packages.05:56
sittersolves https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35180505:56
ubottuKDE bug 351805 in general "Configuration file "//.config/kwalletd5rc" not writable. Please contact your system administrator." [Normal,Resolved: fixed]05:56
sitterRiddell: ^05:56
sitterpoor merger05:56
sitterhow does that happen Oo05:57
* sitter blinks05:57
sitterlibphonon4qt5-dev: multimedia framework from KF5 - development files06:54
sittervivid had one broken description06:54
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lordievaderGood morning07:46
vipmoin07:54
ovidiu-florinsitter: ping08:18
sick_rimmitHola08:22
sitterovidiu-florin: pong08:23
sick_rimmitHow are the developers today... Ooo release day tomorrow08:23
sick_rimmitvery exciting08:23
yofelalready?08:23
ovidiu-florinsitter: can you please help me understand the difference between the stable and unstable CI ppas?08:23
yofeltime flies :O08:23
sitterovidiu-florin: on integrates upstream stable branches and the other upstream masters08:24
ovidiu-florinand stable means the latest release?08:24
sitterno08:25
sitterit means upstream stable branch08:25
sitterso ... "next release" as it were08:25
ovidiu-florinso there is no ppa in the ci for the latest release/08:26
ovidiu-florin?08:26
ovidiu-florinwhait08:26
ovidiu-florinthatis not ci then08:26
ovidiu-florinI still don't get it: what's in the stable branch?08:27
ovidiu-florinsitter: ^08:28
sitterthe upstream stable branch08:28
ovidiu-florinsitter: what's on it08:30
ovidiu-florin?08:30
sitterthat depends on the repository?08:30
sitterin kde-i18n you also got a stable and a trunk, same difference. one is the stable branch the other is the unstable branch08:31
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mparilloRiddell: I tested WiFi on today's Wily Release Canddidate on two different laptops. It connected both times using the live ('try') option.10:47
mparilloNew images: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/347/builds10:56
mparillo!Testers 10:56
ubottutesters is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information10:56
mparillo^^^^10:56
pursuivantmuon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.2-4-g46df03e * Harald Sitter:  (5 files in 5 dirs)10:58
pursuivantfix kuit markup calls10:58
pursuivantwhen using markup tags one must use xi18n* or the markup will not be10:58
pursuivantinterpreted. while we fixed this for most of the code a while ago there10:58
pursuivantstill were broken uses around.10:58
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/46df03e247fede140d95098f78af300eb3acb3d510:58
pursuivantmuon (master) v5.4.2-42-gd9fbd88 * Harald Sitter:  (2 files in 2 dirs)10:59
pursuivantMerge branch 'Plasma/5.4'10:59
pursuivant# Conflicts:10:59
pursuivant#CMakeLists.txt10:59
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/d9fbd88e90adfdddbac452a76c2d82477969401110:59
mparilloOn today's images, do the icons on the Application Launcher look more like Oxygen than Breeze Icons?11:34
sitterthat'd be a bug11:35
sitterlogout and back in and they should be breeze again11:35
* sitter thought 5.15 fixed that11:35
mparillositter: Going to shut down now. Interesting that the favorites tab looked like oxygen but the shut down tab looked breeze.11:54
sitterit's a caching bug11:55
sitternot entirely sure why or how but its a caching bug11:55
mparillositter: Yes, after a re-boot, the favorites icons look breeze-like. Which makes the FireFox Icon look almost garish12:07
mparillocompared to the flat breeze iconts12:07
mparilloicons12:07
soeehttps://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts/eHg5XryQ2dS :]12:18
yofellolwhat12:18
yofelbtw.12:21
yofelsoee: lp #150767612:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1507676 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Nvidia-Prime not switching from intel to nvidia leading to a black screen" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150767612:21
yofelseems like they added some kind of workaround12:21
soeeyofel: yes, still xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu)needs to updated12:22
soeebut the good news is that it is in progress :D12:22
yofelwell yeah, but I think they still have no idea how to fix it properly12:22
soeeso maybe we will be able to use propriety drivers in the end in Wily -.-12:22
soee;o12:22
BluesKajHey folks12:23
soeehiho BluesKaj12:24
BluesKajhey soee12:24
soeeyofel: did you tested this partial fiox already and does it chnage anything ?12:24
yofelnot yet no12:24
marco-parillositter: Thanks for fixing https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35180513:59
ubottuKDE bug 351805 in general "Configuration file "//.config/kwalletd5rc" not writable. Please contact your system administrator." [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:59
ghostcubewill there be any theme for this sddm?14:01
ghostcubelooks very ugly :)14:01
pursuivantmuon (redesign) v5.4.1-109-gb480e01 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (4 files)14:02
pursuivantImprove sizes on phone form factor14:02
pursuivantTry not to get views under the scroll bar when there's no scroll bar.14:02
pursuivanthttp://commits.kde.org/muon/b480e018b2fe3f2ee4a70d593b274980f13280cb14:02
marco-parillositter: Do you need a bug report for the caching bug of Oxygen icons on the Favorites Tab on first boot, then being replaced by breeze icons after a re-boot?14:05
Riddellmparillo: it does seem to have reverted back to oxygen :(14:41
marco-parilloBut only on the first boot and only on the Favorites tab.15:34
Riddellspooky15:38
marco-parillositter thinks it is a caching issue.15:38
Riddellwell my wifi issue was real it seems, new images coming shortly with a fix15:43
Riddellmparillo: fancy making a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Final/Kubuntu ?15:43
marco-parilloRiddell: Will do. I wonder why my wi-fi worked? Do you have the bug number?16:07
Riddellmparillo: bug 150807516:09
ubottubug 1508075 in udisks2 (Ubuntu X-series) "ubiquity and others time out on polkit (killed by udisks2-inhibit)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150807516:09
Riddellmarco-parillo: many other people could not recreate it16:09
marco-parilloRiddell: Are you sure we put out a final last time? All I see is a bare-bones https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu16:10
unascribedI'm trying to write a kwin effect that draws stripes and an icon over windows owned by a process that has been suspended with a SIGSTOP; any ideas on how I could go about this?16:10
unascribedI've tried looking around for documentation but all I can find is the source code and things about the JS API, which I don't think can do this16:10
marco-parilloIf you look at the change log for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu you will see that we removed all the details.16:10
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Riddellmarco-parillo: no it needs to be moved over to the website for the announce16:16
Riddellbut it might be easier to make it on the wiki as a first step to that16:16
marco-parilloGotcha16:17
Riddellvoila16:29
Riddell!testers | ^^16:29
ubottu^^: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip, mparillo for information16:30
BluesKajok of, I'm here 16:31
BluesKajRiddell, ?16:31
marco-parilloSo your wifi error was in ubiquity, not in the live session. I never get to it because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/101816016:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1018160 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Accept WEP in the ubiquity wireless network chooser dialog" [Low,New]16:33
BluesKajRiddell, ping16:33
lordievaderRiddell: Can I still test tommorow? I really have no time today.16:37
marco-parilloRiddell: Ugh, when I try to copy to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu it says the page exists, but it does not.16:44
BluesKajlordievader, any idea what Riddell wants us to test , I don't see a url or is it the latest daily build ?16:47
lordievaderBluesKaj: Wily Final? What else :P http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/347/builds16:48
* BluesKaj shrugs. well let's be sure16:49
lordievaderBluesKaj: The email to the kubuntu-developers mailing list confirms it.16:58
BluesKajguess I'm not on the llist ;-)17:06
lordievaderBluesKaj: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-October/010012.html17:07
BluesKajyeah, downloading as we speak17:10
RiddellBluesKaj: yes wily final candidates17:19
lordievaderRiddell: Can I test it tommorow?17:20
Riddelllordievader: sure17:20
lordievaderAh, cool :)17:20
murthyhello everyone17:38
soeehmm each boot i have Baloo File Indexind Daemon crash18:44
marco-parilloRiddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu Are any bugs likely to close or be added? Otherwise, I can update the bug list.19:06
claydohhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35076919:25
ubottuKDE bug 350769 in general "Service menus require konqpopupmenuplugin.desktop" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]19:25
claydohmarco-parillo:  the missing compress and extract on  right-click of compressed files19:25
claydohI know it is listed, but could be clarified in the description19:26
claydohwell, listed as bug 149022119:27
ubottubug 1490221 in dolphin (Ubuntu Wily) "Ship libkonq-common in order to fix dolphin 15.08 "create new" context menu" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149022119:27
marco-parilloI think the descriptions come straight from Launchpad.19:28
marco-parilloSo if you can improve its clarity, I say go for it. I know I have done it a couple of times.19:29
claydohok19:31
claydohAnyway, the bug listed is marked as fixed, but there is another more relevant bug I'll add19:33
alleesoee: dvratil from akonadi maintainer has no extra login delay with akonadi master. 19:38
soeeallee: so it is not akonadi in the end ?19:39
BluesKajwell installed the Final build and had no desktop at first boot, had to use the recovery kernel with the dialog with network enabled to install 2 missing packages which then gave me a desktop with lower resolution nouveau . The driver manager stalled and disn't load the recommended driver options , so I installed the nvidia-340 driver in the terminal and rebooted. All is well now, sorry  i can't recall the 2 packages that finally 19:39
BluesKajgave me a desktop19:39
alleeCI: is there an easy way to install just KDEPIM deb pkgs from master to check if it goes away here too.19:40
alleesoee: Dan got delay report also from others not only kubuntu. So something is wrong. 19:40
alleeThat he can't reproduce it complicates things unfortunately :-(19:41
alleesoee: replacing akonadiserver with a script doing: exit 0 gives here a login time of 4 sec instead of almost 30 sec.19:42
alleeSo akonadi is at fault or at least triggers another bug19:42
vip:)19:44
soeeallee: but we can be sure it is softwere not hardwere related ?19:44
vipI would love to have an option to disable akonadi at all19:44
vipfrom my login screen there's also ~30s lag to desktop19:45
vipsometimes, the progressbar is at 100%, sometimes, it hangs at ~80%, and hangs19:45
mamarleyA while back there were questions as to the future of Kubuntu after 15.10 (because of the UCC thing).  Has anything been decided about that?  (Do I need to start hunting for another distro?)19:49
alleevip: dpkg-divert --local --rename /usr/bin/akonadiserver;  ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/akonadiserver19:50
alleevip: then I login in 4 sec instead of 30.19:51
alleevip: as I use KDEPIM heavily this is not an option for me.  Was just an (impressive) test ;-)19:52
soeevip: exactly, and this is what we are trying to figure out 19:53
marco-parillomamarley: Every time I try a different one, Kubuntu pulls me back in.19:54
marco-parilloLatest dalliance was Manjaro. I love the AUR, but it does not run well on my 1GB netbook or in a 1GB VM.19:55
marco-parilloKubuntu does fine on both.19:55
alleemamarley: This will depend if *ubuntu manages to get wayland stable with all the hardware out in the wild (I assume canonical with concentrate on mir hw problems not waylands)19:56
vipallee: i'm using kmail too, but a friend of mine suggested that 19:57
vipand I agree19:57
vipwhen somebody does not use kdepim, why should he be forced to install akonadi19:57
alleevip: well,   If  kubuntu would disabled korgan event daemon & applet autostart, then there is no akondi running after login.19:59
alleeright now there a ~ 10 sec delay for unused akonadi before it quits but we/I work to get this fixed.20:00
vipallee: great20:01
vip(btw, /me hopes for kde 5.5, because of fixed bug i hate :-)20:01
alleewe all have our favorite bugs :-)20:02
vipoh sorry, i meant "i love" :)20:02
vipbecause of it is fixed :)20:03
mamarleyallee: I'm not sure I understand, what does Wayland have to do with the CC conflict?20:30
mamarley(And I completely agree, Kubuntu is the best KDE distro out there and I will be massively disappointed if it goes away.)20:34
alleemamarley: oh, sorry.  Nothing.  Misunderstanding.  I thought you refer the discussion that happened when ubuntu announced their  mir commitment and KDE their only-wayland statement20:41
BluesKaj 15.10 Final Build is very slow to load the panel and some apps like  vpn connection get timed out due to the slow response ...definitely needs attention20:55
mamarleyallee: I didn't hear about that.  When is KDE going Wayland-only?20:55
keithzgmamarley: I think allee just meant for future development; at the time, Shuttleworth mentioned that other DEs would definitely be ported to Mir, but KDE folks including quite notably (and relevantly) Martin Gräßlin publicly replied that they had no such plans (and until the suddenly Mir announcement hadn't even known that Mir existed).21:45
keithzgThere's no plans to drop X11 any time soon, but similarly there's no plans to port things to work on Mir. The only work being done is for Wayland.21:45
mamarleyOK, cool.  That's what I thought; I hadn't heard any definite plans for dropping X quite yet.21:48
lucass_Is anyone interested in Kubuntu 15.10 promo  video?22:10
lucass_because i made one ;)22:10
lucass_For those who does not know. I also made Kubuntu 15.04 official video22:14
lucass_http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-04/22:15
marco-parilloThat is great. The Kubuntu Podcast team could definately publicize it.22:17
marco-parilloahoneybun: ovidiu-florin: ^^^22:18
lucass_I am currently uploading it to you tube22:18
lucass_or I can give source file if you want22:19
marco-parilloThen I will do my part (Kubuntu wire which feeds both planets)22:19
marco-parilloBut not until tomorrow.22:19
lucass_I22:19
lucass_sure22:20
lucass_anyway in a few minutes I will give yuo22:20
lucass_a link to the video22:21
marco-parilloTY22:21
lucass_ok here is the link https://youtu.be/oWzSxyZu0ac22:50
lucass_what do you think?22:52
Riddellooh!23:18
Riddelllucass_: love it!23:19
Riddelllucass_: are you the person behind the secret KDEOK account?23:20
lucass_yep23:20
Riddelllucass_: ah hah23:21
tsimonq2I am doing the last of the QA tests now23:22
tsimonq2at least for Kubuntu23:22
Riddellthanks tsimonq223:22
Riddelllucass_: priv msg23:23
tsimonq2because I can do 4 QA tests at once23:26
tsimonq24 vms at once23:26
Riddell:)23:28
tsimonq2but aww...I need an existing system for two of them23:33
tsimonq2I guess I can wait until the first two are done23:33
tsimonq2unless someone else wants to take the auto-resize23:33
tsimonq2speak or forever hold your peace(unless you catch me before I get those started)23:36
tsimonq2aaaaaalllright23:53
tsimonq2moving on23:53
tsimonq2umm I am having a problem23:57
tsimonq2Riddell: ping23:57
tsimonq2umm it won't show me installing Kubuntu alongside of something23:58
tsimonq2it just tells me to erase it all23:58
tsimonq2I don't know if this is a bug, or if I did it wrong23:58
tsimonq2any answer would be great right now23:59
tsimonq2thanks23:59

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