[01:56] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.1-41-gbd88d35 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/DummyBackend/tests (2 files)
[01:56] <pursuivant> Include initial test for the UpdateModel
[01:56] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/bd88d35071e4057a6b63da88535e9283c7f8686a
[05:56] <sitter>   Uploading kwallet-kf5_5.15.0-0ubuntu2_source.changes: done.
[05:56] <sitter> Successfully uploaded packages.
[05:56] <sitter> solves https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351805
[05:56] <sitter> Riddell: ^
[05:56] <sitter> poor merger
[05:57] <sitter> how does that happen Oo
[05:57]  * sitter blinks
[06:54] <sitter> libphonon4qt5-dev: multimedia framework from KF5 - development files
[06:54] <sitter> vivid had one broken description
[07:46] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:54] <vip> moin
[08:18] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: ping
[08:22] <sick_rimmit> Hola
[08:23] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: pong
[08:23] <sick_rimmit> How are the developers today... Ooo release day tomorrow
[08:23] <sick_rimmit> very exciting
[08:23] <yofel> already?
[08:23] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: can you please help me understand the difference between the stable and unstable CI ppas?
[08:23] <yofel> time flies :O
[08:24] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: on integrates upstream stable branches and the other upstream masters
[08:24] <ovidiu-florin> and stable means the latest release?
[08:25] <sitter> no
[08:25] <sitter> it means upstream stable branch
[08:25] <sitter> so ... "next release" as it were
[08:26] <ovidiu-florin> so there is no ppa in the ci for the latest release/
[08:26] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[08:26] <ovidiu-florin> whait
[08:26] <ovidiu-florin> thatis not ci then
[08:27] <ovidiu-florin> I still don't get it: what's in the stable branch?
[08:28] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: ^
[08:28] <sitter> the upstream stable branch
[08:30] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: what's on it
[08:30] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[08:30] <sitter> that depends on the repository?
[08:31] <sitter> in kde-i18n you also got a stable and a trunk, same difference. one is the stable branch the other is the unstable branch
[10:47] <mparillo> Riddell: I tested WiFi on today's Wily Release Canddidate on two different laptops. It connected both times using the live ('try') option.
[10:56] <mparillo> New images: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/347/builds
[10:56] <mparillo> !Testers 
[10:56] <mparillo> ^^^^
[10:58] <pursuivant> muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.2-4-g46df03e * Harald Sitter:  (5 files in 5 dirs)
[10:58] <pursuivant> fix kuit markup calls
[10:58] <pursuivant> when using markup tags one must use xi18n* or the markup will not be
[10:58] <pursuivant> interpreted. while we fixed this for most of the code a while ago there
[10:58] <pursuivant> still were broken uses around.
[10:58] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/46df03e247fede140d95098f78af300eb3acb3d5
[10:59] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-42-gd9fbd88 * Harald Sitter:  (2 files in 2 dirs)
[10:59] <pursuivant> Merge branch 'Plasma/5.4'
[10:59] <pursuivant> # Conflicts:
[10:59] <pursuivant> #CMakeLists.txt
[10:59] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/d9fbd88e90adfdddbac452a76c2d824779694011
[11:34] <mparillo> On today's images, do the icons on the Application Launcher look more like Oxygen than Breeze Icons?
[11:35] <sitter> that'd be a bug
[11:35] <sitter> logout and back in and they should be breeze again
[11:35]  * sitter thought 5.15 fixed that
[11:54] <mparillo> sitter: Going to shut down now. Interesting that the favorites tab looked like oxygen but the shut down tab looked breeze.
[11:55] <sitter> it's a caching bug
[11:55] <sitter> not entirely sure why or how but its a caching bug
[12:07] <mparillo> sitter: Yes, after a re-boot, the favorites icons look breeze-like. Which makes the FireFox Icon look almost garish
[12:07] <mparillo> compared to the flat breeze iconts
[12:07] <mparillo> icons
[12:18] <soee> https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts/eHg5XryQ2dS :]
[12:18] <yofel> lolwhat
[12:21] <yofel> btw.
[12:21] <yofel> soee: lp #1507676
[12:21] <yofel> seems like they added some kind of workaround
[12:22] <soee> yofel: yes, still xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu)needs to updated
[12:22] <soee> but the good news is that it is in progress :D
[12:22] <yofel> well yeah, but I think they still have no idea how to fix it properly
[12:22] <soee> so maybe we will be able to use propriety drivers in the end in Wily -.-
[12:22] <soee> ;o
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:24] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[12:24] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[12:24] <soee> yofel: did you tested this partial fiox already and does it chnage anything ?
[12:24] <yofel> not yet no
[13:59] <marco-parillo> sitter: Thanks for fixing https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351805
[14:01] <ghostcube> will there be any theme for this sddm?
[14:01] <ghostcube> looks very ugly :)
[14:02] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-109-gb480e01 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (4 files)
[14:02] <pursuivant> Improve sizes on phone form factor
[14:02] <pursuivant> Try not to get views under the scroll bar when there's no scroll bar.
[14:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/b480e018b2fe3f2ee4a70d593b274980f13280cb
[14:05] <marco-parillo> sitter: Do you need a bug report for the caching bug of Oxygen icons on the Favorites Tab on first boot, then being replaced by breeze icons after a re-boot?
[14:41] <Riddell> mparillo: it does seem to have reverted back to oxygen :(
[15:34] <marco-parillo> But only on the first boot and only on the Favorites tab.
[15:38] <Riddell> spooky
[15:38] <marco-parillo> sitter thinks it is a caching issue.
[15:43] <Riddell> well my wifi issue was real it seems, new images coming shortly with a fix
[15:43] <Riddell> mparillo: fancy making a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Final/Kubuntu ?
[16:07] <marco-parillo> Riddell: Will do. I wonder why my wi-fi worked? Do you have the bug number?
[16:09] <Riddell> mparillo: bug 1508075
[16:09] <Riddell> marco-parillo: many other people could not recreate it
[16:10] <marco-parillo> Riddell: Are you sure we put out a final last time? All I see is a bare-bones https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[16:10] <unascribed> I'm trying to write a kwin effect that draws stripes and an icon over windows owned by a process that has been suspended with a SIGSTOP; any ideas on how I could go about this?
[16:10] <unascribed> I've tried looking around for documentation but all I can find is the source code and things about the JS API, which I don't think can do this
[16:10] <marco-parillo> If you look at the change log for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu you will see that we removed all the details.
[16:16] <Riddell> marco-parillo: no it needs to be moved over to the website for the announce
[16:16] <Riddell> but it might be easier to make it on the wiki as a first step to that
[16:17] <marco-parillo> Gotcha
[16:29] <Riddell> voila
[16:29] <Riddell> !testers | ^^
[16:31] <BluesKaj> ok of, I'm here 
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ?
[16:33] <marco-parillo> So your wifi error was in ubiquity, not in the live session. I never get to it because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1018160
[16:33] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ping
[16:37] <lordievader> Riddell: Can I still test tommorow? I really have no time today.
[16:44] <marco-parillo> Riddell: Ugh, when I try to copy to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu it says the page exists, but it does not.
[16:47] <BluesKaj> lordievader, any idea what Riddell wants us to test , I don't see a url or is it the latest daily build ?
[16:48] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Wily Final? What else :P http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/347/builds
[16:49]  * BluesKaj shrugs. well let's be sure
[16:58] <lordievader> BluesKaj: The email to the kubuntu-developers mailing list confirms it.
[17:06] <BluesKaj> guess I'm not on the llist ;-)
[17:07] <lordievader> BluesKaj: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-October/010012.html
[17:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, downloading as we speak
[17:19] <Riddell> BluesKaj: yes wily final candidates
[17:20] <lordievader> Riddell: Can I test it tommorow?
[17:20] <Riddell> lordievader: sure
[17:20] <lordievader> Ah, cool :)
[17:38] <murthy> hello everyone
[18:44] <soee> hmm each boot i have Baloo File Indexind Daemon crash
[19:06] <marco-parillo> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu Are any bugs likely to close or be added? Otherwise, I can update the bug list.
[19:25] <claydoh> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350769
[19:25] <claydoh> marco-parillo:  the missing compress and extract on  right-click of compressed files
[19:26] <claydoh> I know it is listed, but could be clarified in the description
[19:27] <claydoh> well, listed as bug 1490221
[19:28] <marco-parillo> I think the descriptions come straight from Launchpad.
[19:29] <marco-parillo> So if you can improve its clarity, I say go for it. I know I have done it a couple of times.
[19:31] <claydoh> ok
[19:33] <claydoh> Anyway, the bug listed is marked as fixed, but there is another more relevant bug I'll add
[19:38] <allee> soee: dvratil from akonadi maintainer has no extra login delay with akonadi master. 
[19:39] <soee> allee: so it is not akonadi in the end ?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> well installed the Final build and had no desktop at first boot, had to use the recovery kernel with the dialog with network enabled to install 2 missing packages which then gave me a desktop with lower resolution nouveau . The driver manager stalled and disn't load the recommended driver options , so I installed the nvidia-340 driver in the terminal and rebooted. All is well now, sorry  i can't recall the 2 packages that finally 
[19:39] <BluesKaj> gave me a desktop
[19:40] <allee> CI: is there an easy way to install just KDEPIM deb pkgs from master to check if it goes away here too.
[19:40] <allee> soee: Dan got delay report also from others not only kubuntu. So something is wrong. 
[19:41] <allee> That he can't reproduce it complicates things unfortunately :-(
[19:42] <allee> soee: replacing akonadiserver with a script doing: exit 0 gives here a login time of 4 sec instead of almost 30 sec.
[19:42] <allee> So akonadi is at fault or at least triggers another bug
[19:44] <vip> :)
[19:44] <soee> allee: but we can be sure it is softwere not hardwere related ?
[19:44] <vip> I would love to have an option to disable akonadi at all
[19:45] <vip> from my login screen there's also ~30s lag to desktop
[19:45] <vip> sometimes, the progressbar is at 100%, sometimes, it hangs at ~80%, and hangs
[19:49] <mamarley> A while back there were questions as to the future of Kubuntu after 15.10 (because of the UCC thing).  Has anything been decided about that?  (Do I need to start hunting for another distro?)
[19:50] <allee> vip: dpkg-divert --local --rename /usr/bin/akonadiserver;  ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/akonadiserver
[19:51] <allee> vip: then I login in 4 sec instead of 30.
[19:52] <allee> vip: as I use KDEPIM heavily this is not an option for me.  Was just an (impressive) test ;-)
[19:53] <soee> vip: exactly, and this is what we are trying to figure out 
[19:54] <marco-parillo> mamarley: Every time I try a different one, Kubuntu pulls me back in.
[19:55] <marco-parillo> Latest dalliance was Manjaro. I love the AUR, but it does not run well on my 1GB netbook or in a 1GB VM.
[19:55] <marco-parillo> Kubuntu does fine on both.
[19:56] <allee> mamarley: This will depend if *ubuntu manages to get wayland stable with all the hardware out in the wild (I assume canonical with concentrate on mir hw problems not waylands)
[19:57] <vip> allee: i'm using kmail too, but a friend of mine suggested that 
[19:57] <vip> and I agree
[19:57] <vip> when somebody does not use kdepim, why should he be forced to install akonadi
[19:59] <allee> vip: well,   If  kubuntu would disabled korgan event daemon & applet autostart, then there is no akondi running after login.
[20:00] <allee> right now there a ~ 10 sec delay for unused akonadi before it quits but we/I work to get this fixed.
[20:01] <vip> allee: great
[20:01] <vip> (btw, /me hopes for kde 5.5, because of fixed bug i hate :-)
[20:02] <allee> we all have our favorite bugs :-)
[20:02] <vip> oh sorry, i meant "i love" :)
[20:03] <vip> because of it is fixed :)
[20:30] <mamarley> allee: I'm not sure I understand, what does Wayland have to do with the CC conflict?
[20:34] <mamarley> (And I completely agree, Kubuntu is the best KDE distro out there and I will be massively disappointed if it goes away.)
[20:41] <allee> mamarley: oh, sorry.  Nothing.  Misunderstanding.  I thought you refer the discussion that happened when ubuntu announced their  mir commitment and KDE their only-wayland statement
[20:55] <BluesKaj>  15.10 Final Build is very slow to load the panel and some apps like  vpn connection get timed out due to the slow response ...definitely needs attention
[20:55] <mamarley> allee: I didn't hear about that.  When is KDE going Wayland-only?
[21:45] <keithzg> mamarley: I think allee just meant for future development; at the time, Shuttleworth mentioned that other DEs would definitely be ported to Mir, but KDE folks including quite notably (and relevantly) Martin Gräßlin publicly replied that they had no such plans (and until the suddenly Mir announcement hadn't even known that Mir existed).
[21:45] <keithzg> There's no plans to drop X11 any time soon, but similarly there's no plans to port things to work on Mir. The only work being done is for Wayland.
[21:48] <mamarley> OK, cool.  That's what I thought; I hadn't heard any definite plans for dropping X quite yet.
[22:10] <lucass_> Is anyone interested in Kubuntu 15.10 promo  video?
[22:10] <lucass_> because i made one ;)
[22:14] <lucass_> For those who does not know. I also made Kubuntu 15.04 official video
[22:15] <lucass_> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-04/
[22:17] <marco-parillo> That is great. The Kubuntu Podcast team could definately publicize it.
[22:18] <marco-parillo> ahoneybun: ovidiu-florin: ^^^
[22:18] <lucass_> I am currently uploading it to you tube
[22:19] <lucass_> or I can give source file if you want
[22:19] <marco-parillo> Then I will do my part (Kubuntu wire which feeds both planets)
[22:19] <marco-parillo> But not until tomorrow.
[22:19] <lucass_> I
[22:20] <lucass_> sure
[22:20] <lucass_> anyway in a few minutes I will give yuo
[22:21] <lucass_> a link to the video
[22:21] <marco-parillo> TY
[22:50] <lucass_> ok here is the link https://youtu.be/oWzSxyZu0ac
[22:52] <lucass_> what do you think?
[23:18] <Riddell> ooh!
[23:19] <Riddell> lucass_: love it!
[23:20] <Riddell> lucass_: are you the person behind the secret KDEOK account?
[23:20] <lucass_> yep
[23:21] <Riddell> lucass_: ah hah
[23:22] <tsimonq2> I am doing the last of the QA tests now
[23:22] <tsimonq2> at least for Kubuntu
[23:22] <Riddell> thanks tsimonq2
[23:23] <Riddell> lucass_: priv msg
[23:26] <tsimonq2> because I can do 4 QA tests at once
[23:26] <tsimonq2> 4 vms at once
[23:28] <Riddell> :)
[23:33] <tsimonq2> but aww...I need an existing system for two of them
[23:33] <tsimonq2> I guess I can wait until the first two are done
[23:33] <tsimonq2> unless someone else wants to take the auto-resize
[23:36] <tsimonq2> speak or forever hold your peace(unless you catch me before I get those started)
[23:53] <tsimonq2> aaaaaalllright
[23:53] <tsimonq2> moving on
[23:57] <tsimonq2> umm I am having a problem
[23:57] <tsimonq2> Riddell: ping
[23:58] <tsimonq2> umm it won't show me installing Kubuntu alongside of something
[23:58] <tsimonq2> it just tells me to erase it all
[23:58] <tsimonq2> I don't know if this is a bug, or if I did it wrong
[23:59] <tsimonq2> any answer would be great right now
[23:59] <tsimonq2> thanks