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lordievaderGood morning07:46
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Ian_CorneAnyone else has their X crash after a while after suspend?09:35
fhfIan_Corne: this happen to me sometimes but only if i close the lid with particular apps opened09:39
Ian_Cornehmm09:42
Ian_CorneI've always had chrome and webstorm open09:42
fhfdunno this happen to me sometimes with spotify09:43
BluesKajHey folks12:23
Ian_CorneHey :)13:53
sjoshiHello, Is release ubuntu15.10 on track and will be available by tommorow?14:13
sjoshiHello, is this channel logged somewhere?16:20
k1l!logs16:23
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.16:23
sjoshithanks k1l !16:24
PanVHello, where can I get mr Wily?17:19
ZeZuI have a Wily install that I can't get to boot,  it's failing to find rootfs and going into loop waiting on mdadm to find an array ... but i can boot into it just fine in a VM...  but when i update initramfs I get warnings from mdadm.conf that no arrays are defined (which i've never seen before).  And there is no reason for it not to boot,  the kernel finds the usb disk it's on just fine as I boot a livecd off of it.17:19
OerHeksPanV, see the topic17:20
PanVNevermind! I already broke Ubuntu once, I really don't want a second time.17:21
TJ-ZeZu: Is the root-FS on an md array?17:22
ZeZuno17:25
ZeZuIt's on a usb-hdd17:25
ZeZuthere are no arrays at all17:25
ZeZuThe only thing that may be different is I had to install through debootstrap,  because installer failed repeatedly17:25
ZeZuI've double checked the UUID it uses, and tried booting through grub command line manually using root=/dev/sdb3  instead of uuid17:25
TJ-ZeZu: and does it drop to a busybox shell prompt eventually?17:27
ZeZuNo, it loops forever17:28
ZeZuIf I remove mdadm scripts from initramfs it drops to busybox, but i don't have keyboard input for some reason :(17:29
ZeZuhmm, maybe that's part of the problem thinking about it... if usb is not working then the hdd the rootfs is on wouldn't be available17:29
TJ-ZeZu: does the initrd.img need some additional usb mass storage drivers including?17:32
ZeZuI wouldn't think so17:33
ZeZuI've never had to add additional usb drivers to them before17:33
TJ-GRUB loads the kernel/initrd via the firmware or its own nativedisk device drivers; when the /init script starts it will need the kernel drivers for the USB path to the device17:34
ZeZuI'm thinking more along the lines of a kernel bug on my chipset,  since it works fine in the livecd which likely uses another kernel version.  I guess i'll see if there's another kernel avail and test17:34
ZeZuYes, but i'd imagine usb drivers are prob. built-in, I could check the config...17:37
TJ-ZeZu: if it has a USB keyboard which also isn't working, that suggests a chipset driver is required too17:38
TJ-ZeZu: which ubuntu release, kernel version, and what make/model of PC or motherboard?17:39
ZeZuIt's a mid`11 imac, so common intel chipset is why I figured they'd deff. be included.   Ubuntu 15.10 / linux 4.2.0-16-generic17:40
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erle-is release schedule on time?19:14
fhfyup19:15
fhfwily will arive tmmrw19:15
erle-then I will upgrade already :)19:22
erle-update-manager -d is not showing anything19:30
erle-then I have to wait19:30
Fauxerle-: Isn't it do-release-upgrade -d?19:33
erle-Faux, did not do it in years19:33
erle-Faux, that's new then19:33
erle-Faux, thanks19:33
FauxI personally think it's a pile of trash and you should just edit sources.list and learn to use aptitude, but who knows. :)19:33
erle-both suffer from the same problems in my opinion19:34
erle-it should update the core packages first before touching anything optional in my opinion, but that would be a big job to implement19:35
FauxPersonally I just dist-upgrade and try and find a solution I don't think is too offensive.19:35
erle-oh, do-release-upgrade is the commandline tool19:35
FauxPersonally I should stop starting every sentence with personally.19:36
lordievader!schedule21:06
ubottuA schedule of wily werewolf (15.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule21:06
lordievaderFaux: That is the Debian way. I heard things might break if you do that in Ubuntu.21:08
FauxThings break, but only because apt or aptitude is too dumb to pick a decent solution.  And/or if you have hundreds of extra repos/ppas, which would be the same in debianland anyway.21:09
lordievaderdo-release-upgrade disables those and starts a screen session. It simply takes a couple of steps for you to try and ensure a smooth upgrade process.21:18
FauxIt also uninstalls some random packages.21:33
erle-transmission-gtk and vino have missing dependencies21:44
erle-both are “supported” by cannonical21:44
FauxBoth are installable for me!21:45
erle-weird21:45
k1lerle-: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade21:45
erle-do you mean apt-get?21:46
erle-do you mean dist-upgrade?21:46
k1lnope21:46
k1li mean the new fancy apt command. well its not that new21:46
FauxCOLOURS21:48
erle-now they install21:48
erle-thanks21:48
erle-what is the difference between full-upgrade and dist-upgrade?21:49
k1lerle-: its basically the same. its just that the "new" apt names it full-upgrade to make the users not be confused with ubuntu release (dist) upgrades21:50
k1l"no i dont want to upgrade to 15.10 already" when people are told to run dist-upgrade to install all packages21:50
erle-k1l, thanks21:51
bk_anybody home?23:02

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