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thatgraemeguymornings06:00
Kilosmorning inetpro skokkk bushtech Cryterion thatgraemeguy and others06:00
Kiloshi anton06:00
antonMorning06:00
Kilosi hope you have been welcomed here06:00
antonyip i see it's a very quiet bunch06:01
Kiloseveryone snowed under at work06:01
antonuh hu06:01
Kilosbut if you need help then just state what the prob is and be patient06:01
Kilossomeone will get to it06:01
antonyip will do thanks06:02
Kilosyou welcome06:02
Kilosand welcome to be here 24/706:02
antonkewl, will mostly be connected during working after hours and if need help over the weekend will then connect06:03
CryterionMornings06:07
thatgraemeguyhey Kilos, you all better yet?06:13
Kilosnope thatgraemeguy too much pain to to sit up and type06:14
Kilosand they say up to six weeks sigh06:14
thatgraemeguyow :|06:14
thatgraemeguyoh wow06:14
Kiloswomen are wonderful creatures06:15
thatgraemeguythey could at least give you some morphine :)06:15
Kiloshow they servive a caesar is beyong me06:15
Kilosoh they  have but im scared when pain is gone i do something stupid and tear the mesh loose before it has grown fast06:16
Kilosso pain is actually a warning to take things easy06:16
thatgraemeguyyeah06:16
thatgraemeguyso how long does the whole thing take to 'settle'06:17
Kilosall well there?06:17
Kilosshould be completely recovered in 6 weeks but no sitting bending coughing sneezing etc for min 3 weeks06:18
Kiloshaha06:18
thatgraemeguysjoe, hectic06:18
Kilosyeah06:18
thatgraemeguyall good here, thanks06:18
Kilosweird though walking is good06:18
Kilosbut with tummy muscles resting lower back is eina06:19
Kilossigh06:19
Sxuzamorning all06:50
Sxuzaif i change my current operating system and switch to linux on my Mac book , does anyone here run Linux on their Macbook ?06:52
pieter2627hello all06:53
Sxuzahi pieter2627 06:54
pieter2627hi Sxuza, you new here?06:54
Sxuzayes im new here 06:55
Sxuzamy first day06:55
pieter2627well welcome. Hope you enjoy it so far...06:56
Sxuzaif i change my current operating system and switch to linux on my Mac book , does anyone here run Linux on their Macbook ?06:56
Sxuzathats the question i posted earlier 06:57
Sxuzacan u comment on it 06:57
Sxuzanever used ubuntu before and wud like to learn fast06:57
pieter2627nope, someone once mentioned that they have a mac but can't remember who06:57
antonwhy do you want linux on a Mac? It's unix based anyways06:57
pieter2627Kilos ^^06:57
Kiloshi pieter2627 06:58
pieter2627Kilos: who has a mac again?06:58
Kiloshi Sxuza welcome to ubuntu-za06:59
Sxuzahey Kilos  :)06:59
Sxuzau guys all here in SA ?06:59
Kilosmostly06:59
Kiloswe have one guy running ubuntu on his mac06:59
Sxuzao kewl :)06:59
Kiloslemme just try remember who it is07:00
Sxuzaits better to chat wiff ppl from here , than to all these clowns from all overseas that u come across these irc servers 07:00
Kilosmost of the guys here are full time IT guy07:01
Kilosand all linux users07:01
SxuzaKilos: well, remember i said i want to learn use linux , so mayb i shud start installing it on a V-box 07:01
Sxuzawhich im doing now 07:01
Kilosyou can do that07:01
Sxuzaso where u guys from , CT, PTA , JHB ?07:02
Kilosthen once you are comfortable you can install it permamnently07:02
pieter2627Sxuza: is there something specific that you want to learn?07:02
Kilosal over za, most in CT07:02
pieter2627and a cluster in PTA07:02
Kilostake over pieter2627 please i gotta sit up to type07:02
pieter2627oops forgot, sorry Kilos 07:03
Kilosnp07:03
Kilosand Sxuza you are welcome here 24/7 hey07:03
KilosCryterion are you the one with the mac07:04
Kilos?07:04
CryterionNo am not sorry07:04
Kilosoh Sxuza just remember the guys are all at work so you have to be patient at times for replies07:05
* pieter2627 wbb soon07:05
Kilosi wonder who it is07:05
MaNIif its a modern mac then there isn't really much different from a regular pc07:05
Kilossomeone near the top of the nicks list07:05
Kilosnot here yet i think07:05
Sxuzanetwork problems 07:21
pieter2627no response yet Sxuza, might have to wait for a coffee break or something...07:23
Sxuzathanks pieter2627 07:23
Sxuzaso where u from ?07:23
pieter2627PTA07:24
pieter2627and yourself?07:24
Sxuzaim from East London07:24
Sxuzaand the other ppl are also from PTA / JHB ?07:24
Sxuzaor are there other ppl from down here ?07:25
pieter2627I know a few are close to Durbs07:26
Sxuzao ok 07:27
Sxuzau guys are working or studying ?07:30
MaNIcan't speak for anyone else but I'm working, also I'm from CT - it is a group of random people so I imagine at least some of them are probably studying :p07:40
Sxuzaok cool MaNI , nice to meet u07:41
Sxuzai am also working down here , but hasnt used linux before07:41
MaNIwell always good to learn something new, hope you like it07:46
* pieter2627 falls in the study group08:06
Sxuzafalls ,lol08:11
Sxuzau tripped ?08:11
pieter2627no, well pretended to :P08:12
Sxuzahas the line up for the rugby match been named?09:32
Sxuzathink they said @ 1109:32
CryterionAnyone know of any good open source cad options for Ubuntu, getting frustrated with using Autocad now?09:37
Sxuzaure using it to what exactly ?09:38
Sxuzathe drawings , what field of skill ?09:38
CryterionMainly 2d and Isometric, mechanical drawings etc09:39
Sxuzao ok 09:40
CryterionSteel fabrication, laser cutting layouts09:40
Sxuzasorry i thought u might be needing it for electricl09:40
Sxuzao ok 09:40
CryterionElectrical as well, but can do the electrical on a 2d cad system09:40
SxuzaElmer is an open source computational tool for multi-physics .... Graphiteone - 3D and 2D commercial mechanical engineering CAD09:42
Sxuzajust saw that on google 09:42
Sxuzasee if u can get ur hands on t09:42
Cryterionwill have a look tks09:42
antonDam you Afrihost10:48
inetprogood mornings11:12
inetproKilos: wasn't it stickyboy? 11:13
inetprothe one using a mac11:13
Sxuzadoes anyone here know or have seen how the lineup looks like for the Saturday WC game ?11:17
inetproSxuza: https://twitter.com/Rugbyworldmag/status/65676156563560857611:30
inetproSxuza: just Victor Matfield getting the nod ahead of Pieter-Steph du Toit on the bench11:31
Sxuzaso is Mattfield in ?11:32
Sxuzao ok , on the bench11:33
Cryterionww.rugbyworldcup.com/match/14214#stats11:35
Cryterionhttp://www.rugbyworldcup.com/match/14214#stats11:35
inetproLood de Jager will undergo a late fitness test on Friday before a call on his availability is made 11:36
inetproshould de Jager be unable to play, Victor Matfield will start with Pieter-Steph du Toit on the bench11:37
* inetpro hoping that Lood will be ready11:38
Sxuzai hope so too11:45
Sxuzaeven thou Victor played well , cause he did do his best and mayb has the last piece of good performance that he wants to give SA11:46
Kilosnono11:48
Kiloswbb mb meeting11:51
KilosTinuvaMac are you a mac user11:58
TinuvaMacyeah i am11:58
Kiloscan you advise Sxuza please11:58
KilosSxuza you still awake?11:59
Sxuzayip im awake 12:00
Sxuzawas onda phone 12:01
Sxuzathanks for the follow up Kilos 12:01
Kilosnp tell TinuvaMac what you want to do12:01
SxuzaTinuvaMac: u there ?12:01
Sxuzao ok 12:01
Kilosim sure he will have advise12:02
Sxuzawas just thinking of trying a new operating system on my MAC 12:02
Kilosjust remember to be patient12:02
Kilosstate which mac as well12:02
Sxuzaand thought before i  do that i shud ask someone that has done it before 12:02
SxuzaMACbook Air 12:03
TinuvaMacive only ever used osx on my mac12:03
Sxuzaure not using linux on it ?12:03
TinuvaMacand the little i have read up on installing linux on a mac, it seemed like a bit of a mission12:03
Sxuzao ok 12:03
TinuvaMacthe mission is if you want to keep osx and linux at the same time12:03
TinuvaMacotherwise, if you wipe osx it should mostly just work12:03
TinuvaMacexcept for wireless, depends on what wireless is in there12:04
Sxuzathats what i wanted to do, i wanted to keep them both at the same time 12:04
Sxuzathats why i wanted to ask12:04
Sxuzathen again, i dont have any specific reason but just wanted to teach myself on how to use Linux 12:05
TinuvaMacif linux is what you want to learn, you can start by just using the terminal in osx12:08
TinuvaMacthats what i use mostly on osx anyway12:08
Sxuzasorry ,  i had a customer 12:17
Sxuzaoh yea , installed V-box on my machine the other day 12:18
Sxuzagonna try that also 12:18
Sxuzai installed ubuntu , its running 12:18
MaNIcan't imagine its that big of a mission - you just need an alternative boot loader like clover or whatever13:02
MaNIif you want to go linux only then its really no different than any other machine - macs stopped having anything unique about them ages ago - unless we are talking some old PPC mac or something here?13:02
SxuzaTinuvaMac: so are u using textual on ur MAC ?13:03
TinuvaMaclime chat for irc13:05
Sxuzao ok13:06
Sxuzaim using textual , changed from linechat 13:06
Sxuzaupgrade ,lol13:07
TinuvaMactextual is only free for 30 days13:10
TinuvaMacim not used to buying apps13:10
TinuvaMacso lime chat is free forever13:10
Sxuzai get u , but when i found out textual is only R60 forever , and the custom settings it come with , to me i felt its nothing 13:11
Sxuzainstead of buying a bottle of brandy , i bot this and got change 13:12
Kiloslol13:15
Sxuzaaint i right Kilos ?13:18
Kilosyip13:27
Kilosbooze is a big waste of hard earned money13:28
Sxuzahow to improve your day on facebook   1.) Find a picture of your friends baby on facebook. 2.) Comment with "What kind of cat is that" 3.)Then wait ....13:49
=== Sxuza is now known as Lys
Trixar_zaI would have bought the brandy for a few rand more myself14:46
MaNIsomething seems incredibly wrong about paying for IRC15:07
MaNIapple could probably convince their users to pay for air, it's so weird15:08
TinuvaMacMaNI: but it is not apple selling that irc app15:32
TinuvaMacthat said, I agree, something is wrong paying for an irc app15:32
MaNITinuvaMac, no not Apple directly selling the app, but it is a general mindset that apple customers tend to have and/or apple have managed to cultivate16:17
MaNIpeople even pay for ODBC drivers on osx its bizarre :p16:18
Trixar_zaWell, that's not completely fair. Microsoft and Android have done the same with the smart phone market.16:18
Kilos-so many power outs in one avy17:38
Kilos-sigh17:38
Kilos-thanks for helping the new guy MaNI TinuvaMac 17:39
Kilos-hi Trixar_za long time no see17:39
Kilos-and im about to give up for the day17:39
Trixar_zaHey Kilos-, yeah I've been busy with things. Well, people more like it. Seeing less of said people, so I'm here more.17:39
Trixar_zaI should be working on stuff, but I'm not :/17:40
Kilos-ah17:40
Kilos-just remember what you dont do today will still be there tomorrow17:41
Kilos-all good otherwise Trixar_za ?17:41
Trixar_zaYes, and you know what they say. Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow.17:41
Kilos-lol17:41
Trixar_zaI'm doing better yeah17:42
Kilos-good17:42
Trixar_zaI lost 9kg - still 9kg away from 75kg which is a 'good weight', but getting closer17:42
Kilos-wow17:42
Trixar_zaMostly just walking an hour a day, drinking lots of water and limiting my foot intake17:42
Trixar_zaCarbinated drinks are really bad - filled with sugar too. Not the good kind either - it gets turned straight into fat rather than getting burned. So I'm mostly avoiding them17:43
Kilos-dupingping welcome to ubuntu-za17:47
Kilos-guys meet the newest ubuntu member17:47
dupingping:) thank you, very much.17:47
Kilos-a lady from china17:47
dupingpingnice to meet you, guys.17:47
Kilos-sometimes we chat in afrikaans here so dont be shocked17:48
dupingpingoh17:48
Kilos-pieter2627 inetpro ^^17:48
Kilos-not often though dupingping mainly when we are joking with each other17:49
Kilos-very friendly helpfull channel this17:49
dupingpingyes, i think so.17:49
Kilos-i started my ubuntu carrear here and made good friends then started the africa channel and made more friends now i have friends world wide17:53
pieter2627hi dupingping, welcome to our channel17:53
dupingpingpieter2627, nice to meet you.17:53
pieter2627or was that to help Trixar_za lose weight Kilos- :P17:54
dupingpingKilos-, ubuntu carrear?17:54
Kilos-lol no he is doing a good job on his own17:54
Kilos-um17:54
dupingpingKilos-, do you have jobs to career?17:55
Kilos-well i started on ubuntu here, i knew very little about computers even17:55
dupingpingyes.17:55
Kilos-now i can even help new users17:55
dupingpingyes, i understand.17:56
Kilos-pieter2627 you must chat to dupingping she is clever and has 2 apps in ubuntu17:58
pieter2627wow, dupingping what are they written in?17:58
dupingpingUbuntu Dock and Sticky Notes17:59
dupingpingCan you find them on Ubuntu Software Center?17:59
pieter2627yes, (or the terminal)?18:00
dupingpingThey are all for Desktop GUI apps.18:00
Kilos-i think superfly uses stickynotes18:01
dupingpingwritten by C and GTK318:01
Kilos-dupingping do you mind if we help you correct your english18:02
pieter2627none written with the new SDK.. bumper18:02
Kilos-?18:02
dupingpingyes, please.18:02
Kilos-should be written in C and GTK318:03
dupingpingoh, correct.18:03
Kilos-we are here to help18:03
dupingpingwritten by my hands.18:03
Kilos-yes18:03
dupingpingyes, that's good.18:03
dupingpingAnd i can help them, too.18:04
Kilos-that would be nice18:04
Kilos-ty18:04
Kilos-hi Cryterion 18:08
CryterionHi, how you feeling18:10
Kilos-good ty18:10
Kilos-say hi to dupingping 18:10
Cryterionthat's good18:10
dupingpingCryterion, hi18:11
Cryterionhi dupingping18:11
dupingpingCryterion, nice to meet yoy18:11
Cryterionsame18:11
dupingpingyoy, you18:11
Cryterionlol18:11
Kilos-Cryterion dupingping is a lady geek in china18:11
dupingpingI wish we help each other.18:11
Kilos-newest ubuntu member18:12
dupingpingheh18:12
Cryterionkwl18:12
CryterionEveryone here helps each other18:12
dupingpingi like ubuntu.18:12
dupingpingi think that all like ubuntu.18:12
* Cryterion has 1 more piece of software to find then he's completely open-source18:13
Cryterionmaaz tell Sxuza LibraCad seems to be what I was looking for earlier18:14
Maaz_Cryterion: Okay, I'll tell Sxuza on freenode18:14
Kilos-dupingping maaz is our python bot18:14
CryterionMaaz Please get a beer18:15
Maaz_Cryterion: *blink*18:15
dupingpingwow, 18:15
Cryterionmaaz coffee18:15
Maaz_Cryterion: coffee is liquid code18:15
dupingpingwow, Maaz_ 18:15
Maaz_dupingping: Sorry...18:15
Kilos-makes nice cyber coffee and records our meetings18:15
dupingpingyeah.18:15
Kilos-Maaz_ coffee on18:15
* Maaz_ puts the kettle on18:15
dupingpingCan i make a python bot, too?18:16
Cryterionhmm, it's coffee on18:16
Kilos-if you want cyber coffee you type in Maaz_ coffee please18:16
dupingpingI'm a python 2.7 professor.18:16
pieter2627Maaz_: coffee please18:16
Maaz_pieter2627: Sure18:16
Cryterionthere's plenty examples around18:16
dupingpingMaaz_, coffee please18:16
Maaz_dupingping: Okay18:16
Kilos-superfly is our python expert here18:16
CryterionMaaz: beer please18:17
Maaz_Hidden in the back of the fridge Cryterion18:17
Kilos-and tumbleweed but he is in silicon valley now18:17
dupingpingsuperfly, nice to meet you.18:17
* pieter2627 has plants that need some coffee fertilizer - hope they like cyber :P18:17
CryterionMaaz_ Why you hidding the beer?18:17
Maaz_Cryterion: Sorry...18:17
Kilos-dupingping you can see the code for ibid in the repos18:17
Kilos-needs upgrading but everyone is too busy nowadays18:18
dupingpingyes, ibid18:19
Kilos-needs upgrading to python 3 i think18:19
dupingpingi'm a beginner for ibid, but let me see.18:19
Maaz_Coffee's ready for Kilos-, pieter2627 and dupingping!18:19
Kilos-Maaz_ ty18:19
Maaz_You are welcome Kilos-18:19
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
pieter2627Maaz_: thanks18:20
Maaz_pieter2627: Sure18:20
dupingpingyes, 18:20
pieter2627Maaz_: ice cubes please18:20
Maaz_pieter2627: *blink*18:20
Kiloslol18:20
dupingpingKilos, current ibid based on python 2.7?18:20
Kilossomewhere there18:20
dupingpingSo needs to run on python 3, right?18:20
dupingpingi see.18:20
Kilosi dont know anything about code18:20
Kilosim old18:21
pieter2627dupingping: they talked about rewriting it in 3...18:21
dupingpingyes, will check and try by myself.18:21
dupingpingpieter2627, i see.18:21
pieter2627or weight in as to why to write it in 318:21
Kiloswe will all love you if you do the upgrade for us18:21
dupingpingwow, thank you.18:22
Kiloshehe18:22
pieter2627and we are here to help (learn) too18:22
dupingpinglet me try do my best.18:22
dupingpingi'll here too.18:22
Kilosits quite a big job18:22
dupingpingi think so18:23
pieter2627dupingping: do you know nikola?18:24
dupingpingi don't know nikola.18:25
dupingpingwho is?18:25
Kilosdupingping https://ubuntu-za.org18:25
Kilosthats our site built on nikola18:26
pieter2627no, it is a static website generator (written in python) that we use on our site18:26
dupingpingoh, i understand.18:27
dupingpingmy time is so late now. am going to my bed.18:29
dupingpingvery pleasure meeting you today.18:29
Kilosthat site and http://ubuntu-africa.info were built by the guys here18:29
Kilossleep tight18:29
dupingpingyes, i'll remember.18:29
Kilosty for visiting18:29
dupingpingAnd can i join to develop the sites?18:29
Kilosyes im sure18:30
dupingpingreally?18:30
dupingpingthat's good.18:30
Kiloswhen superfly has finished his latest project you two must chat18:30
Kiloshe is our python man18:31
Kilosand nikola man18:31
dupingpingyes, i'll chat with superfly when you available.18:31
dupingpingi'll work and learn for us.18:31
pieter2627battery almost dead, see again tomorrow18:31
Kilosinetpro ping18:31
Kilossleep tight pieter2627 18:32
dupingpingpieter2627, see you.18:32
dupingpingKilos, see you.18:32
Kilosnight dupingping 18:32
dupingpinghave a nice dream.18:32
Kilosty you too18:32
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:43
Trixar_zaGoodnite Kilos18:43

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