[06:00] mornings [06:00] morning inetpro skokkk bushtech Cryterion thatgraemeguy and others [06:00] hi anton [06:00] Morning [06:00] i hope you have been welcomed here [06:01] yip i see it's a very quiet bunch [06:01] everyone snowed under at work [06:01] uh hu [06:01] but if you need help then just state what the prob is and be patient [06:01] someone will get to it [06:02] yip will do thanks [06:02] you welcome [06:02] and welcome to be here 24/7 [06:03] kewl, will mostly be connected during working after hours and if need help over the weekend will then connect [06:07] Mornings [06:13] hey Kilos, you all better yet? [06:14] nope thatgraemeguy too much pain to to sit up and type [06:14] and they say up to six weeks sigh [06:14] ow :| [06:14] oh wow [06:15] women are wonderful creatures [06:15] they could at least give you some morphine :) [06:15] how they servive a caesar is beyong me [06:16] oh they have but im scared when pain is gone i do something stupid and tear the mesh loose before it has grown fast [06:16] so pain is actually a warning to take things easy [06:16] yeah [06:17] so how long does the whole thing take to 'settle' [06:17] all well there? [06:18] should be completely recovered in 6 weeks but no sitting bending coughing sneezing etc for min 3 weeks [06:18] haha [06:18] sjoe, hectic [06:18] yeah [06:18] all good here, thanks [06:18] weird though walking is good [06:19] but with tummy muscles resting lower back is eina [06:19] sigh [06:50] morning all [06:52] if i change my current operating system and switch to linux on my Mac book , does anyone here run Linux on their Macbook ? [06:53] hello all [06:54] hi pieter2627 [06:54] hi Sxuza, you new here? [06:55] yes im new here [06:55] my first day [06:56] well welcome. Hope you enjoy it so far... [06:56] if i change my current operating system and switch to linux on my Mac book , does anyone here run Linux on their Macbook ? [06:57] thats the question i posted earlier [06:57] can u comment on it [06:57] never used ubuntu before and wud like to learn fast [06:57] nope, someone once mentioned that they have a mac but can't remember who [06:57] why do you want linux on a Mac? It's unix based anyways [06:57] Kilos ^^ [06:58] hi pieter2627 [06:58] Kilos: who has a mac again? [06:59] hi Sxuza welcome to ubuntu-za [06:59] hey Kilos :) [06:59] u guys all here in SA ? [06:59] mostly [06:59] we have one guy running ubuntu on his mac [06:59] o kewl :) [07:00] lemme just try remember who it is [07:00] its better to chat wiff ppl from here , than to all these clowns from all overseas that u come across these irc servers [07:01] most of the guys here are full time IT guy [07:01] and all linux users [07:01] Kilos: well, remember i said i want to learn use linux , so mayb i shud start installing it on a V-box [07:01] which im doing now [07:01] you can do that [07:02] so where u guys from , CT, PTA , JHB ? [07:02] then once you are comfortable you can install it permamnently [07:02] Sxuza: is there something specific that you want to learn? [07:02] al over za, most in CT [07:02] and a cluster in PTA [07:02] take over pieter2627 please i gotta sit up to type [07:03] oops forgot, sorry Kilos [07:03] np [07:03] and Sxuza you are welcome here 24/7 hey [07:04] Cryterion are you the one with the mac [07:04] ? [07:04] No am not sorry [07:05] oh Sxuza just remember the guys are all at work so you have to be patient at times for replies [07:05] * pieter2627 wbb soon [07:05] i wonder who it is [07:05] if its a modern mac then there isn't really much different from a regular pc [07:05] someone near the top of the nicks list [07:05] not here yet i think [07:21] network problems [07:23] no response yet Sxuza, might have to wait for a coffee break or something... [07:23] thanks pieter2627 [07:23] so where u from ? [07:24] PTA [07:24] and yourself? [07:24] im from East London [07:24] and the other ppl are also from PTA / JHB ? [07:25] or are there other ppl from down here ? [07:26] I know a few are close to Durbs [07:27] o ok [07:30] u guys are working or studying ? [07:40] can't speak for anyone else but I'm working, also I'm from CT - it is a group of random people so I imagine at least some of them are probably studying :p [07:41] ok cool MaNI , nice to meet u [07:41] i am also working down here , but hasnt used linux before [07:46] well always good to learn something new, hope you like it [08:06] * pieter2627 falls in the study group [08:11] falls ,lol [08:11] u tripped ? [08:12] no, well pretended to :P [09:32] has the line up for the rugby match been named? [09:32] think they said @ 11 [09:37] Anyone know of any good open source cad options for Ubuntu, getting frustrated with using Autocad now? [09:38] ure using it to what exactly ? [09:38] the drawings , what field of skill ? [09:39] Mainly 2d and Isometric, mechanical drawings etc [09:40] o ok [09:40] Steel fabrication, laser cutting layouts [09:40] sorry i thought u might be needing it for electricl [09:40] o ok [09:40] Electrical as well, but can do the electrical on a 2d cad system [09:42] Elmer is an open source computational tool for multi-physics .... Graphiteone - 3D and 2D commercial mechanical engineering CAD [09:42] just saw that on google [09:42] see if u can get ur hands on t [09:42] will have a look tks [10:48] Dam you Afrihost [11:12] good mornings [11:13] Kilos: wasn't it stickyboy? [11:13] the one using a mac [11:17] does anyone here know or have seen how the lineup looks like for the Saturday WC game ? [11:30] Sxuza: https://twitter.com/Rugbyworldmag/status/656761565635608576 [11:31] Sxuza: just Victor Matfield getting the nod ahead of Pieter-Steph du Toit on the bench [11:32] so is Mattfield in ? [11:33] o ok , on the bench [11:35] ww.rugbyworldcup.com/match/14214#stats [11:35] http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/match/14214#stats [11:36] Lood de Jager will undergo a late fitness test on Friday before a call on his availability is made [11:37] should de Jager be unable to play, Victor Matfield will start with Pieter-Steph du Toit on the bench [11:38] * inetpro hoping that Lood will be ready [11:45] i hope so too [11:46] even thou Victor played well , cause he did do his best and mayb has the last piece of good performance that he wants to give SA [11:48] nono [11:51] wbb mb meeting [11:58] TinuvaMac are you a mac user [11:58] yeah i am [11:58] can you advise Sxuza please [11:59] Sxuza you still awake? [12:00] yip im awake [12:01] was onda phone [12:01] thanks for the follow up Kilos [12:01] np tell TinuvaMac what you want to do [12:01] TinuvaMac: u there ? [12:01] o ok [12:02] im sure he will have advise [12:02] was just thinking of trying a new operating system on my MAC [12:02] just remember to be patient [12:02] state which mac as well [12:02] and thought before i do that i shud ask someone that has done it before [12:03] MACbook Air [12:03] ive only ever used osx on my mac [12:03] ure not using linux on it ? [12:03] and the little i have read up on installing linux on a mac, it seemed like a bit of a mission [12:03] o ok [12:03] the mission is if you want to keep osx and linux at the same time [12:03] otherwise, if you wipe osx it should mostly just work [12:04] except for wireless, depends on what wireless is in there [12:04] thats what i wanted to do, i wanted to keep them both at the same time [12:04] thats why i wanted to ask [12:05] then again, i dont have any specific reason but just wanted to teach myself on how to use Linux [12:08] if linux is what you want to learn, you can start by just using the terminal in osx [12:08] thats what i use mostly on osx anyway [12:17] sorry , i had a customer [12:18] oh yea , installed V-box on my machine the other day [12:18] gonna try that also [12:18] i installed ubuntu , its running [13:02] can't imagine its that big of a mission - you just need an alternative boot loader like clover or whatever [13:02] if you want to go linux only then its really no different than any other machine - macs stopped having anything unique about them ages ago - unless we are talking some old PPC mac or something here? [13:03] TinuvaMac: so are u using textual on ur MAC ? [13:05] lime chat for irc [13:06] o ok [13:06] im using textual , changed from linechat [13:07] upgrade ,lol [13:10] textual is only free for 30 days [13:10] im not used to buying apps [13:10] so lime chat is free forever [13:11] i get u , but when i found out textual is only R60 forever , and the custom settings it come with , to me i felt its nothing [13:12] instead of buying a bottle of brandy , i bot this and got change [13:15] lol [13:18] aint i right Kilos ? [13:27] yip [13:28] booze is a big waste of hard earned money [13:49] how to improve your day on facebook 1.) Find a picture of your friends baby on facebook. 2.) Comment with "What kind of cat is that" 3.)Then wait .... === Sxuza is now known as Lys [14:46] I would have bought the brandy for a few rand more myself [15:07] something seems incredibly wrong about paying for IRC [15:08] apple could probably convince their users to pay for air, it's so weird [15:32] MaNI: but it is not apple selling that irc app [15:32] that said, I agree, something is wrong paying for an irc app [16:17] TinuvaMac, no not Apple directly selling the app, but it is a general mindset that apple customers tend to have and/or apple have managed to cultivate [16:18] people even pay for ODBC drivers on osx its bizarre :p [16:18] Well, that's not completely fair. Microsoft and Android have done the same with the smart phone market. [17:38] so many power outs in one avy [17:38] sigh [17:39] thanks for helping the new guy MaNI TinuvaMac [17:39] hi Trixar_za long time no see [17:39] and im about to give up for the day [17:39] Hey Kilos-, yeah I've been busy with things. Well, people more like it. Seeing less of said people, so I'm here more. [17:40] I should be working on stuff, but I'm not :/ [17:40] ah [17:41] just remember what you dont do today will still be there tomorrow [17:41] all good otherwise Trixar_za ? [17:41] Yes, and you know what they say. Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow. [17:41] lol [17:42] I'm doing better yeah [17:42] good [17:42] I lost 9kg - still 9kg away from 75kg which is a 'good weight', but getting closer [17:42] wow [17:42] Mostly just walking an hour a day, drinking lots of water and limiting my foot intake [17:43] Carbinated drinks are really bad - filled with sugar too. Not the good kind either - it gets turned straight into fat rather than getting burned. So I'm mostly avoiding them [17:47] dupingping welcome to ubuntu-za [17:47] guys meet the newest ubuntu member [17:47] :) thank you, very much. [17:47] a lady from china [17:47] nice to meet you, guys. [17:48] sometimes we chat in afrikaans here so dont be shocked [17:48] oh [17:48] pieter2627 inetpro ^^ [17:49] not often though dupingping mainly when we are joking with each other [17:49] very friendly helpfull channel this [17:49] yes, i think so. [17:53] i started my ubuntu carrear here and made good friends then started the africa channel and made more friends now i have friends world wide [17:53] hi dupingping, welcome to our channel [17:53] pieter2627, nice to meet you. [17:54] or was that to help Trixar_za lose weight Kilos- :P [17:54] Kilos-, ubuntu carrear? [17:54] lol no he is doing a good job on his own [17:54] um [17:55] Kilos-, do you have jobs to career? [17:55] well i started on ubuntu here, i knew very little about computers even [17:55] yes. [17:55] now i can even help new users [17:56] yes, i understand. [17:58] pieter2627 you must chat to dupingping she is clever and has 2 apps in ubuntu [17:58] wow, dupingping what are they written in? [17:59] Ubuntu Dock and Sticky Notes [17:59] Can you find them on Ubuntu Software Center? [18:00] yes, (or the terminal)? [18:00] They are all for Desktop GUI apps. [18:01] i think superfly uses stickynotes [18:01] written by C and GTK3 [18:02] dupingping do you mind if we help you correct your english [18:02] none written with the new SDK.. bumper [18:02] ? [18:02] yes, please. [18:03] should be written in C and GTK3 [18:03] oh, correct. [18:03] we are here to help [18:03] written by my hands. [18:03] yes [18:03] yes, that's good. [18:04] And i can help them, too. [18:04] that would be nice [18:04] ty [18:08] hi Cryterion [18:10] Hi, how you feeling [18:10] good ty [18:10] say hi to dupingping [18:10] that's good [18:11] Cryterion, hi [18:11] hi dupingping [18:11] Cryterion, nice to meet yoy [18:11] same [18:11] yoy, you [18:11] lol [18:11] Cryterion dupingping is a lady geek in china [18:11] I wish we help each other. [18:12] newest ubuntu member [18:12] heh [18:12] kwl [18:12] Everyone here helps each other [18:12] i like ubuntu. [18:12] i think that all like ubuntu. [18:13] * Cryterion has 1 more piece of software to find then he's completely open-source [18:14] maaz tell Sxuza LibraCad seems to be what I was looking for earlier [18:14] Cryterion: Okay, I'll tell Sxuza on freenode [18:14] dupingping maaz is our python bot [18:15] Maaz Please get a beer [18:15] Cryterion: *blink* [18:15] wow, [18:15] maaz coffee [18:15] Cryterion: coffee is liquid code [18:15] wow, Maaz_ [18:15] dupingping: Sorry... [18:15] makes nice cyber coffee and records our meetings [18:15] yeah. [18:15] Maaz_ coffee on [18:15] * Maaz_ puts the kettle on [18:16] Can i make a python bot, too? [18:16] hmm, it's coffee on [18:16] if you want cyber coffee you type in Maaz_ coffee please [18:16] I'm a python 2.7 professor. [18:16] Maaz_: coffee please [18:16] pieter2627: Sure [18:16] there's plenty examples around [18:16] Maaz_, coffee please [18:16] dupingping: Okay [18:16] superfly is our python expert here [18:17] Maaz: beer please [18:17] Hidden in the back of the fridge Cryterion [18:17] and tumbleweed but he is in silicon valley now [18:17] superfly, nice to meet you. [18:17] * pieter2627 has plants that need some coffee fertilizer - hope they like cyber :P [18:17] Maaz_ Why you hidding the beer? [18:17] Cryterion: Sorry... [18:17] dupingping you can see the code for ibid in the repos [18:18] needs upgrading but everyone is too busy nowadays [18:19] yes, ibid [18:19] needs upgrading to python 3 i think [18:19] i'm a beginner for ibid, but let me see. [18:19] Coffee's ready for Kilos-, pieter2627 and dupingping! [18:19] Maaz_ ty [18:19] You are welcome Kilos- === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [18:20] Maaz_: thanks [18:20] pieter2627: Sure [18:20] yes, [18:20] Maaz_: ice cubes please [18:20] pieter2627: *blink* [18:20] lol [18:20] Kilos, current ibid based on python 2.7? [18:20] somewhere there [18:20] So needs to run on python 3, right? [18:20] i see. [18:20] i dont know anything about code [18:21] im old [18:21] dupingping: they talked about rewriting it in 3... [18:21] yes, will check and try by myself. [18:21] pieter2627, i see. [18:21] or weight in as to why to write it in 3 [18:21] we will all love you if you do the upgrade for us [18:22] wow, thank you. [18:22] hehe [18:22] and we are here to help (learn) too [18:22] let me try do my best. [18:22] i'll here too. [18:22] its quite a big job [18:23] i think so [18:24] dupingping: do you know nikola? [18:25] i don't know nikola. [18:25] who is? [18:25] dupingping https://ubuntu-za.org [18:26] thats our site built on nikola [18:26] no, it is a static website generator (written in python) that we use on our site [18:27] oh, i understand. [18:29] my time is so late now. am going to my bed. [18:29] very pleasure meeting you today. [18:29] that site and http://ubuntu-africa.info were built by the guys here [18:29] sleep tight [18:29] yes, i'll remember. [18:29] ty for visiting [18:29] And can i join to develop the sites? [18:30] yes im sure [18:30] really? [18:30] that's good. [18:30] when superfly has finished his latest project you two must chat [18:31] he is our python man [18:31] and nikola man [18:31] yes, i'll chat with superfly when you available. [18:31] i'll work and learn for us. [18:31] battery almost dead, see again tomorrow [18:31] inetpro ping [18:32] sleep tight pieter2627 [18:32] pieter2627, see you. [18:32] Kilos, see you. [18:32] night dupingping [18:32] have a nice dream. [18:32] ty you too [18:43] night all. sleep tight [18:43] Goodnite Kilos