[06:00] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:00] <Kilos> morning inetpro skokkk bushtech Cryterion thatgraemeguy and others
[06:00] <Kilos> hi anton
[06:00] <anton> Morning
[06:00] <Kilos> i hope you have been welcomed here
[06:01] <anton> yip i see it's a very quiet bunch
[06:01] <Kilos> everyone snowed under at work
[06:01] <anton> uh hu
[06:01] <Kilos> but if you need help then just state what the prob is and be patient
[06:01] <Kilos> someone will get to it
[06:02] <anton> yip will do thanks
[06:02] <Kilos> you welcome
[06:02] <Kilos> and welcome to be here 24/7
[06:03] <anton> kewl, will mostly be connected during working after hours and if need help over the weekend will then connect
[06:07] <Cryterion> Mornings
[06:13] <thatgraemeguy> hey Kilos, you all better yet?
[06:14] <Kilos> nope thatgraemeguy too much pain to to sit up and type
[06:14] <Kilos> and they say up to six weeks sigh
[06:14] <thatgraemeguy> ow :|
[06:14] <thatgraemeguy> oh wow
[06:15] <Kilos> women are wonderful creatures
[06:15] <thatgraemeguy> they could at least give you some morphine :)
[06:15] <Kilos> how they servive a caesar is beyong me
[06:16] <Kilos> oh they  have but im scared when pain is gone i do something stupid and tear the mesh loose before it has grown fast
[06:16] <Kilos> so pain is actually a warning to take things easy
[06:16] <thatgraemeguy> yeah
[06:17] <thatgraemeguy> so how long does the whole thing take to 'settle'
[06:17] <Kilos> all well there?
[06:18] <Kilos> should be completely recovered in 6 weeks but no sitting bending coughing sneezing etc for min 3 weeks
[06:18] <Kilos> haha
[06:18] <thatgraemeguy> sjoe, hectic
[06:18] <Kilos> yeah
[06:18] <thatgraemeguy> all good here, thanks
[06:18] <Kilos> weird though walking is good
[06:19] <Kilos> but with tummy muscles resting lower back is eina
[06:19] <Kilos> sigh
[06:50] <Sxuza> morning all
[06:52] <Sxuza> if i change my current operating system and switch to linux on my Mac book , does anyone here run Linux on their Macbook ?
[06:53] <pieter2627> hello all
[06:54] <Sxuza> hi pieter2627 
[06:54] <pieter2627> hi Sxuza, you new here?
[06:55] <Sxuza> yes im new here 
[06:55] <Sxuza> my first day
[06:56] <pieter2627> well welcome. Hope you enjoy it so far...
[06:56] <Sxuza> if i change my current operating system and switch to linux on my Mac book , does anyone here run Linux on their Macbook ?
[06:57] <Sxuza> thats the question i posted earlier 
[06:57] <Sxuza> can u comment on it 
[06:57] <Sxuza> never used ubuntu before and wud like to learn fast
[06:57] <pieter2627> nope, someone once mentioned that they have a mac but can't remember who
[06:57] <anton> why do you want linux on a Mac? It's unix based anyways
[06:57] <pieter2627> Kilos ^^
[06:58] <Kilos> hi pieter2627 
[06:58] <pieter2627> Kilos: who has a mac again?
[06:59] <Kilos> hi Sxuza welcome to ubuntu-za
[06:59] <Sxuza> hey Kilos  :)
[06:59] <Sxuza> u guys all here in SA ?
[06:59] <Kilos> mostly
[06:59] <Kilos> we have one guy running ubuntu on his mac
[06:59] <Sxuza> o kewl :)
[07:00] <Kilos> lemme just try remember who it is
[07:00] <Sxuza> its better to chat wiff ppl from here , than to all these clowns from all overseas that u come across these irc servers 
[07:01] <Kilos> most of the guys here are full time IT guy
[07:01] <Kilos> and all linux users
[07:01] <Sxuza> Kilos: well, remember i said i want to learn use linux , so mayb i shud start installing it on a V-box 
[07:01] <Sxuza> which im doing now 
[07:01] <Kilos> you can do that
[07:02] <Sxuza> so where u guys from , CT, PTA , JHB ?
[07:02] <Kilos> then once you are comfortable you can install it permamnently
[07:02] <pieter2627> Sxuza: is there something specific that you want to learn?
[07:02] <Kilos> al over za, most in CT
[07:02] <pieter2627> and a cluster in PTA
[07:02] <Kilos> take over pieter2627 please i gotta sit up to type
[07:03] <pieter2627> oops forgot, sorry Kilos 
[07:03] <Kilos> np
[07:03] <Kilos> and Sxuza you are welcome here 24/7 hey
[07:04] <Kilos> Cryterion are you the one with the mac
[07:04] <Kilos> ?
[07:04] <Cryterion> No am not sorry
[07:05] <Kilos> oh Sxuza just remember the guys are all at work so you have to be patient at times for replies
[07:05]  * pieter2627 wbb soon
[07:05] <Kilos> i wonder who it is
[07:05] <MaNI> if its a modern mac then there isn't really much different from a regular pc
[07:05] <Kilos> someone near the top of the nicks list
[07:05] <Kilos> not here yet i think
[07:21] <Sxuza> network problems 
[07:23] <pieter2627> no response yet Sxuza, might have to wait for a coffee break or something...
[07:23] <Sxuza> thanks pieter2627 
[07:23] <Sxuza> so where u from ?
[07:24] <pieter2627> PTA
[07:24] <pieter2627> and yourself?
[07:24] <Sxuza> im from East London
[07:24] <Sxuza> and the other ppl are also from PTA / JHB ?
[07:25] <Sxuza> or are there other ppl from down here ?
[07:26] <pieter2627> I know a few are close to Durbs
[07:27] <Sxuza> o ok 
[07:30] <Sxuza> u guys are working or studying ?
[07:40] <MaNI> can't speak for anyone else but I'm working, also I'm from CT - it is a group of random people so I imagine at least some of them are probably studying :p
[07:41] <Sxuza> ok cool MaNI , nice to meet u
[07:41] <Sxuza> i am also working down here , but hasnt used linux before
[07:46] <MaNI> well always good to learn something new, hope you like it
[08:06]  * pieter2627 falls in the study group
[08:11] <Sxuza> falls ,lol
[08:11] <Sxuza> u tripped ?
[08:12] <pieter2627> no, well pretended to :P
[09:32] <Sxuza> has the line up for the rugby match been named?
[09:32] <Sxuza> think they said @ 11
[09:37] <Cryterion> Anyone know of any good open source cad options for Ubuntu, getting frustrated with using Autocad now?
[09:38] <Sxuza> ure using it to what exactly ?
[09:38] <Sxuza> the drawings , what field of skill ?
[09:39] <Cryterion> Mainly 2d and Isometric, mechanical drawings etc
[09:40] <Sxuza> o ok 
[09:40] <Cryterion> Steel fabrication, laser cutting layouts
[09:40] <Sxuza> sorry i thought u might be needing it for electricl
[09:40] <Sxuza> o ok 
[09:40] <Cryterion> Electrical as well, but can do the electrical on a 2d cad system
[09:42] <Sxuza> Elmer is an open source computational tool for multi-physics .... Graphiteone - 3D and 2D commercial mechanical engineering CAD
[09:42] <Sxuza> just saw that on google 
[09:42] <Sxuza> see if u can get ur hands on t
[09:42] <Cryterion> will have a look tks
[10:48] <anton> Dam you Afrihost
[11:12] <inetpro> good mornings
[11:13] <inetpro> Kilos: wasn't it stickyboy? 
[11:13] <inetpro> the one using a mac
[11:17] <Sxuza> does anyone here know or have seen how the lineup looks like for the Saturday WC game ?
[11:30] <inetpro> Sxuza: https://twitter.com/Rugbyworldmag/status/656761565635608576
[11:31] <inetpro> Sxuza: just Victor Matfield getting the nod ahead of Pieter-Steph du Toit on the bench
[11:32] <Sxuza> so is Mattfield in ?
[11:33] <Sxuza> o ok , on the bench
[11:35] <Cryterion> ww.rugbyworldcup.com/match/14214#stats
[11:35] <Cryterion> http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/match/14214#stats
[11:36] <inetpro> Lood de Jager will undergo a late fitness test on Friday before a call on his availability is made 
[11:37] <inetpro> should de Jager be unable to play, Victor Matfield will start with Pieter-Steph du Toit on the bench
[11:38]  * inetpro hoping that Lood will be ready
[11:45] <Sxuza> i hope so too
[11:46] <Sxuza> even thou Victor played well , cause he did do his best and mayb has the last piece of good performance that he wants to give SA
[11:48] <Kilos> nono
[11:51] <Kilos> wbb mb meeting
[11:58] <Kilos> TinuvaMac are you a mac user
[11:58] <TinuvaMac> yeah i am
[11:58] <Kilos> can you advise Sxuza please
[11:59] <Kilos> Sxuza you still awake?
[12:00] <Sxuza> yip im awake 
[12:01] <Sxuza> was onda phone 
[12:01] <Sxuza> thanks for the follow up Kilos 
[12:01] <Kilos> np tell TinuvaMac what you want to do
[12:01] <Sxuza> TinuvaMac: u there ?
[12:01] <Sxuza> o ok 
[12:02] <Kilos> im sure he will have advise
[12:02] <Sxuza> was just thinking of trying a new operating system on my MAC 
[12:02] <Kilos> just remember to be patient
[12:02] <Kilos> state which mac as well
[12:02] <Sxuza> and thought before i  do that i shud ask someone that has done it before 
[12:03] <Sxuza> MACbook Air 
[12:03] <TinuvaMac> ive only ever used osx on my mac
[12:03] <Sxuza> ure not using linux on it ?
[12:03] <TinuvaMac> and the little i have read up on installing linux on a mac, it seemed like a bit of a mission
[12:03] <Sxuza> o ok 
[12:03] <TinuvaMac> the mission is if you want to keep osx and linux at the same time
[12:03] <TinuvaMac> otherwise, if you wipe osx it should mostly just work
[12:04] <TinuvaMac> except for wireless, depends on what wireless is in there
[12:04] <Sxuza> thats what i wanted to do, i wanted to keep them both at the same time 
[12:04] <Sxuza> thats why i wanted to ask
[12:05] <Sxuza> then again, i dont have any specific reason but just wanted to teach myself on how to use Linux 
[12:08] <TinuvaMac> if linux is what you want to learn, you can start by just using the terminal in osx
[12:08] <TinuvaMac> thats what i use mostly on osx anyway
[12:17] <Sxuza> sorry ,  i had a customer 
[12:18] <Sxuza> oh yea , installed V-box on my machine the other day 
[12:18] <Sxuza> gonna try that also 
[12:18] <Sxuza> i installed ubuntu , its running 
[13:02] <MaNI> can't imagine its that big of a mission - you just need an alternative boot loader like clover or whatever
[13:02] <MaNI> if you want to go linux only then its really no different than any other machine - macs stopped having anything unique about them ages ago - unless we are talking some old PPC mac or something here?
[13:03] <Sxuza> TinuvaMac: so are u using textual on ur MAC ?
[13:05] <TinuvaMac> lime chat for irc
[13:06] <Sxuza> o ok
[13:06] <Sxuza> im using textual , changed from linechat 
[13:07] <Sxuza> upgrade ,lol
[13:10] <TinuvaMac> textual is only free for 30 days
[13:10] <TinuvaMac> im not used to buying apps
[13:10] <TinuvaMac> so lime chat is free forever
[13:11] <Sxuza> i get u , but when i found out textual is only R60 forever , and the custom settings it come with , to me i felt its nothing 
[13:12] <Sxuza> instead of buying a bottle of brandy , i bot this and got change 
[13:15] <Kilos> lol
[13:18] <Sxuza> aint i right Kilos ?
[13:27] <Kilos> yip
[13:28] <Kilos> booze is a big waste of hard earned money
[13:49] <Sxuza> how to improve your day on facebook   1.) Find a picture of your friends baby on facebook. 2.) Comment with "What kind of cat is that" 3.)Then wait ....
[14:46] <Trixar_za> I would have bought the brandy for a few rand more myself
[15:07] <MaNI> something seems incredibly wrong about paying for IRC
[15:08] <MaNI> apple could probably convince their users to pay for air, it's so weird
[15:32] <TinuvaMac> MaNI: but it is not apple selling that irc app
[15:32] <TinuvaMac> that said, I agree, something is wrong paying for an irc app
[16:17] <MaNI> TinuvaMac, no not Apple directly selling the app, but it is a general mindset that apple customers tend to have and/or apple have managed to cultivate
[16:18] <MaNI> people even pay for ODBC drivers on osx its bizarre :p
[16:18] <Trixar_za> Well, that's not completely fair. Microsoft and Android have done the same with the smart phone market.
[17:38] <Kilos-> so many power outs in one avy
[17:38] <Kilos-> sigh
[17:39] <Kilos-> thanks for helping the new guy MaNI TinuvaMac 
[17:39] <Kilos-> hi Trixar_za long time no see
[17:39] <Kilos-> and im about to give up for the day
[17:39] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos-, yeah I've been busy with things. Well, people more like it. Seeing less of said people, so I'm here more.
[17:40] <Trixar_za> I should be working on stuff, but I'm not :/
[17:40] <Kilos-> ah
[17:41] <Kilos-> just remember what you dont do today will still be there tomorrow
[17:41] <Kilos-> all good otherwise Trixar_za ?
[17:41] <Trixar_za> Yes, and you know what they say. Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow.
[17:41] <Kilos-> lol
[17:42] <Trixar_za> I'm doing better yeah
[17:42] <Kilos-> good
[17:42] <Trixar_za> I lost 9kg - still 9kg away from 75kg which is a 'good weight', but getting closer
[17:42] <Kilos-> wow
[17:42] <Trixar_za> Mostly just walking an hour a day, drinking lots of water and limiting my foot intake
[17:43] <Trixar_za> Carbinated drinks are really bad - filled with sugar too. Not the good kind either - it gets turned straight into fat rather than getting burned. So I'm mostly avoiding them
[17:47] <Kilos-> dupingping welcome to ubuntu-za
[17:47] <Kilos-> guys meet the newest ubuntu member
[17:47] <dupingping> :) thank you, very much.
[17:47] <Kilos-> a lady from china
[17:47] <dupingping> nice to meet you, guys.
[17:48] <Kilos-> sometimes we chat in afrikaans here so dont be shocked
[17:48] <dupingping> oh
[17:48] <Kilos-> pieter2627 inetpro ^^
[17:49] <Kilos-> not often though dupingping mainly when we are joking with each other
[17:49] <Kilos-> very friendly helpfull channel this
[17:49] <dupingping> yes, i think so.
[17:53] <Kilos-> i started my ubuntu carrear here and made good friends then started the africa channel and made more friends now i have friends world wide
[17:53] <pieter2627> hi dupingping, welcome to our channel
[17:53] <dupingping> pieter2627, nice to meet you.
[17:54] <pieter2627> or was that to help Trixar_za lose weight Kilos- :P
[17:54] <dupingping> Kilos-, ubuntu carrear?
[17:54] <Kilos-> lol no he is doing a good job on his own
[17:54] <Kilos-> um
[17:55] <dupingping> Kilos-, do you have jobs to career?
[17:55] <Kilos-> well i started on ubuntu here, i knew very little about computers even
[17:55] <dupingping> yes.
[17:55] <Kilos-> now i can even help new users
[17:56] <dupingping> yes, i understand.
[17:58] <Kilos-> pieter2627 you must chat to dupingping she is clever and has 2 apps in ubuntu
[17:58] <pieter2627> wow, dupingping what are they written in?
[17:59] <dupingping> Ubuntu Dock and Sticky Notes
[17:59] <dupingping> Can you find them on Ubuntu Software Center?
[18:00] <pieter2627> yes, (or the terminal)?
[18:00] <dupingping> They are all for Desktop GUI apps.
[18:01] <Kilos-> i think superfly uses stickynotes
[18:01] <dupingping> written by C and GTK3
[18:02] <Kilos-> dupingping do you mind if we help you correct your english
[18:02] <pieter2627> none written with the new SDK.. bumper
[18:02] <Kilos-> ?
[18:02] <dupingping> yes, please.
[18:03] <Kilos-> should be written in C and GTK3
[18:03] <dupingping> oh, correct.
[18:03] <Kilos-> we are here to help
[18:03] <dupingping> written by my hands.
[18:03] <Kilos-> yes
[18:03] <dupingping> yes, that's good.
[18:04] <dupingping> And i can help them, too.
[18:04] <Kilos-> that would be nice
[18:04] <Kilos-> ty
[18:08] <Kilos-> hi Cryterion 
[18:10] <Cryterion> Hi, how you feeling
[18:10] <Kilos-> good ty
[18:10] <Kilos-> say hi to dupingping 
[18:10] <Cryterion> that's good
[18:11] <dupingping> Cryterion, hi
[18:11] <Cryterion> hi dupingping
[18:11] <dupingping> Cryterion, nice to meet yoy
[18:11] <Cryterion> same
[18:11] <dupingping> yoy, you
[18:11] <Cryterion> lol
[18:11] <Kilos-> Cryterion dupingping is a lady geek in china
[18:11] <dupingping> I wish we help each other.
[18:12] <Kilos-> newest ubuntu member
[18:12] <dupingping> heh
[18:12] <Cryterion> kwl
[18:12] <Cryterion> Everyone here helps each other
[18:12] <dupingping> i like ubuntu.
[18:12] <dupingping> i think that all like ubuntu.
[18:13]  * Cryterion has 1 more piece of software to find then he's completely open-source
[18:14] <Cryterion> maaz tell Sxuza LibraCad seems to be what I was looking for earlier
[18:14] <Maaz_> Cryterion: Okay, I'll tell Sxuza on freenode
[18:14] <Kilos-> dupingping maaz is our python bot
[18:15] <Cryterion> Maaz Please get a beer
[18:15] <Maaz_> Cryterion: *blink*
[18:15] <dupingping> wow, 
[18:15] <Cryterion> maaz coffee
[18:15] <Maaz_> Cryterion: coffee is liquid code
[18:15] <dupingping> wow, Maaz_ 
[18:15] <Maaz_> dupingping: Sorry...
[18:15] <Kilos-> makes nice cyber coffee and records our meetings
[18:15] <dupingping> yeah.
[18:15] <Kilos-> Maaz_ coffee on
[18:15]  * Maaz_ puts the kettle on
[18:16] <dupingping> Can i make a python bot, too?
[18:16] <Cryterion> hmm, it's coffee on
[18:16] <Kilos-> if you want cyber coffee you type in Maaz_ coffee please
[18:16] <dupingping> I'm a python 2.7 professor.
[18:16] <pieter2627> Maaz_: coffee please
[18:16] <Maaz_> pieter2627: Sure
[18:16] <Cryterion> there's plenty examples around
[18:16] <dupingping> Maaz_, coffee please
[18:16] <Maaz_> dupingping: Okay
[18:16] <Kilos-> superfly is our python expert here
[18:17] <Cryterion> Maaz: beer please
[18:17] <Maaz_> Hidden in the back of the fridge Cryterion
[18:17] <Kilos-> and tumbleweed but he is in silicon valley now
[18:17] <dupingping> superfly, nice to meet you.
[18:17]  * pieter2627 has plants that need some coffee fertilizer - hope they like cyber :P
[18:17] <Cryterion> Maaz_ Why you hidding the beer?
[18:17] <Maaz_> Cryterion: Sorry...
[18:17] <Kilos-> dupingping you can see the code for ibid in the repos
[18:18] <Kilos-> needs upgrading but everyone is too busy nowadays
[18:19] <dupingping> yes, ibid
[18:19] <Kilos-> needs upgrading to python 3 i think
[18:19] <dupingping> i'm a beginner for ibid, but let me see.
[18:19] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for Kilos-, pieter2627 and dupingping!
[18:19] <Kilos-> Maaz_ ty
[18:19] <Maaz_> You are welcome Kilos-
[18:20] <pieter2627> Maaz_: thanks
[18:20] <Maaz_> pieter2627: Sure
[18:20] <dupingping> yes, 
[18:20] <pieter2627> Maaz_: ice cubes please
[18:20] <Maaz_> pieter2627: *blink*
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <dupingping> Kilos, current ibid based on python 2.7?
[18:20] <Kilos> somewhere there
[18:20] <dupingping> So needs to run on python 3, right?
[18:20] <dupingping> i see.
[18:20] <Kilos> i dont know anything about code
[18:21] <Kilos> im old
[18:21] <pieter2627> dupingping: they talked about rewriting it in 3...
[18:21] <dupingping> yes, will check and try by myself.
[18:21] <dupingping> pieter2627, i see.
[18:21] <pieter2627> or weight in as to why to write it in 3
[18:21] <Kilos> we will all love you if you do the upgrade for us
[18:22] <dupingping> wow, thank you.
[18:22] <Kilos> hehe
[18:22] <pieter2627> and we are here to help (learn) too
[18:22] <dupingping> let me try do my best.
[18:22] <dupingping> i'll here too.
[18:22] <Kilos> its quite a big job
[18:23] <dupingping> i think so
[18:24] <pieter2627> dupingping: do you know nikola?
[18:25] <dupingping> i don't know nikola.
[18:25] <dupingping> who is?
[18:25] <Kilos> dupingping https://ubuntu-za.org
[18:26] <Kilos> thats our site built on nikola
[18:26] <pieter2627> no, it is a static website generator (written in python) that we use on our site
[18:27] <dupingping> oh, i understand.
[18:29] <dupingping> my time is so late now. am going to my bed.
[18:29] <dupingping> very pleasure meeting you today.
[18:29] <Kilos> that site and http://ubuntu-africa.info were built by the guys here
[18:29] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:29] <dupingping> yes, i'll remember.
[18:29] <Kilos> ty for visiting
[18:29] <dupingping> And can i join to develop the sites?
[18:30] <Kilos> yes im sure
[18:30] <dupingping> really?
[18:30] <dupingping> that's good.
[18:30] <Kilos> when superfly has finished his latest project you two must chat
[18:31] <Kilos> he is our python man
[18:31] <Kilos> and nikola man
[18:31] <dupingping> yes, i'll chat with superfly when you available.
[18:31] <dupingping> i'll work and learn for us.
[18:31] <pieter2627> battery almost dead, see again tomorrow
[18:31] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[18:32] <Kilos> sleep tight pieter2627 
[18:32] <dupingping> pieter2627, see you.
[18:32] <dupingping> Kilos, see you.
[18:32] <Kilos> night dupingping 
[18:32] <dupingping> have a nice dream.
[18:32] <Kilos> ty you too
[18:43] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:43] <Trixar_za> Goodnite Kilos