[00:00] <yvesyat> nss -myhostname is not installed
[00:00] <yvesyat> is an error i get
[00:00] <daftykins> weird
[00:00] <bpeak> Bashing-om: I cannot find any setting that describes this behavior on the accessibility tab. But, is this a WM (xfce4) setting? Does this keybind not work on other WM in ubuntu?
[00:05] <Bashing-om> bpeak: So far as I know that is particular to xfce4 (version 4.10 ?) .
[00:06] <bpeak> Bashing-om: 4.11 - Interesting. Thanks for your help :)
[00:09] <pedepy> hi i'm trying to setup a plex media server ... i have the service running but when trying to access the web app i get a connected refused from the browser.. in fact i get a connection refused trying to connect to localhost on any port so i'm not sure what to do from here
[00:09] <maddawg2> on localhost?
[00:09] <yvesyat> daftykins any idea?
[00:09] <maddawg2> what OS?
[00:09] <chunkasaurusREX> I need help making wirehsark Version 1.10.6 work in ubuntu 14.04, I have the interfaces loading but whenever I try to start a capture wireshark crashes.
[00:09] <maddawg2> it sounds like a firewall issue
[00:09] <daftykins> yvesyat: try installing smbfs and smbclient then trying again
[00:10] <pedepy> maddawg2 im running elementary (ubuntu fork) i cant imagine its very different .. sounds like that too or a permission issue but i have no idea how to access any of those
[00:10] <maddawg2> pedepy there is a plex support channel btw
[00:10] <pedepy> i didnt know what it is
[00:10] <pedepy> is it*
[00:10] <maddawg2> #plex
[00:10] <maddawg2> lol
[00:10] <pedepy> makes sense hahah
[00:10] <k1l_> !elementary | pedepy
[00:10] <bhat> hey
[00:11] <bhat> i like this brilliant design concept for ubuntu hope we will see it soon
[00:11] <bhat> https://www.behance.net/gallery/28804097/Ubuntu-1604-Stupendously-Hot-Charmander-concept
[00:11] <pedepy> alright ill try those but you dont think maybe it could be a permission issue on my user ?
[00:12] <pedepy> can i ask you another question when i try to connect to webchat freenode i have no more 'connect' button or whatever used to be ? im running ircii off a terminal now it's not the best least to say
[00:13] <Bashing-om> bpeak: Maybe: http://docs.xfce.org/apps/ristretto/4.10/preferences?s[]=zoom will help ? Not sure at all what has changed in 4.12 version .
[00:13] <yvesyat> daftykins : sorry to ask but what's the command to install smbfs and smbclient?
[00:14] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install smbfs smbclient
[00:17] <LegalAction> hi!
[00:17] <bhat> i've got problem with ubuntu when i suspend the system the screen stay black, i tried a lot of solutions but not work
[00:18] <LegalAction> Anyone willing to help me with a silly problem?
[00:18] <bhat> maybe i can, try to give it out
[00:18] <yvesyat> daftykins : just installed these 2
[00:18] <yvesyat> what shall i do next?
[00:19] <LegalAction> I'm using 14.4, and trying to get games to work like EGATrrek and Master of Magic to work.  I'm using DOSbox and D-Fend Reloaded for the front end.
[00:19] <LegalAction> Every time I load one of those games the computer sends e back to the log in screen.
[00:20] <LegalAction> I don't know why and I can't figure out how to fix it.
[00:20] <reisio> sounds like your X is crashing
[00:20] <reisio> grep EE /var/log/X*log
[00:20] <daftykins> yvesyat: repeat the mount
[00:21] <LegalAction> I'm enough of a newb that I don't understand what X is or that grep command or how to execute it.
[00:21] <daftykins> 14.04, there's a zero
[00:22] <reisio> LegalAction: CTRL+ALT+t, 'grep EE /var/log/X*log', ENTER
[00:22] <wafflejock> LegalAction: what reisio wrote on the grep line is all you would write in a terminal to get the output, grep searches files/a file for some text specifically looking for error messages there
[00:23] <wafflejock> LegalAction: X is the underlying drawing system that the graphics system uses to draw windows and other graphical elements on the screen, if there's an error in X and it restarts you might get kicked back to the login screen since everything graphical is restarted
[00:23] <LegalAction> "this device may have been added with another device file"
[00:25] <chunkasaurusREX> I think I figured out my issue, good luck everyone else
[00:26] <reisio> chunkasaurusREX: say how, for posterity
[00:26] <LegalAction> Should I format and reintall again?
[00:28] <chunkasaurusREX> No problem, I ran wireshark in terminal and saw GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GtkScrollbar' so I ran the command export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0
[00:29] <yvesyat> daftykins : just found a way to mount
[00:29] <yvesyat> it's working now
[00:29] <yvesyat> thanks a lot
[00:29] <chunkasaurusREX> I actually still see that in terminal but now my capture is working without trying to run as root
[00:30] <daftykins> yvesyat: cool, GUI method working ok now?
[00:31] <yvesyat> yes sir
[00:31] <yvesyat> great and copying
[00:31] <yvesyat> now if the power shuts now i might commit suicide lol
[00:31] <yvesyat> but thanks thanks thanks
[00:31] <yvesyat> you were very helpful
[00:31] <daftykins> yvesyat: haha, go into power management and disable everything you can
[00:32] <yvesyat> just did
[00:32] <yvesyat> thanks again man
[00:32] <yvesyat> where r u from?
[00:33] <chunkasaurusREX> hmm, wireshark still only runs if I launch from terminal, is there any way to make 'export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0' work on wireshark from launcher?
[00:33] <daftykins> yvesyat: channel islands
[00:35] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: can typically modify your .desktop files to launch with whatever params you need
[00:36] <chunkasaurusREX> Does that apply to the Launcher icon?
[00:36] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: can go in a terminal and, sudo updatedb, then, locate whatever.desktop if you (probably wireshark.desktop)
[00:36] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: yeah launchers typically come from .desktop entries as far as I know
[00:37] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: program called alacarte is helpful for modifying menu entries too most of the time... not using Unity here anymore so can't check
[00:37] <chunkasaurusREX> Okay cool, and on an unrelated note, how can I check to see what privileges I am letting wireshark run with?
[00:38] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: typically if you start a process it has your user privileges you can check top to see what users process are run as or use, ps aux, that'll list the processes along with the user info
[00:42] <yvesyat> daftykins : thanks guy from the channel island
[00:42] <yvesyat> i'm heading to sleep now after launching the backup process
[00:42] <yvesyat> see u :)
[00:42] <chunkasaurusREX> awesome, thank you very much wafflejock, alacarte looks like a life-saver, checking it out now.
[00:43] <daftykins> yvesyat: laters :>
[00:44] <chunkasaurusREX> ps aux is very enlightening as well.
[00:50] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: yup no prob
[01:00] <gerep> Hello good people. I have a question about shell
[01:00] <gerep> I'm logged in as userA and I'm changing the user like this: sudo su - userB
[01:00] <gerep> When I change the user, does it load another shell for this user?
[01:01] <xMopxShell> How bad of an idea is this? http://tecadmin.net/flush-memory-cache-on-linux-server/
[01:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> gerep, yes, you can check processes
[01:05] <gerep> Eduard_Munteanu: sorry if this question is silly but I have this situation, I'm running a Go code where I create a pseudo terminal to run some sudo commands but when I change the user it loads another shell and I lose my pseudo terminal. Is there a way for me to change user without changing the shell?
[01:08] <Chaser> gerep: may be with out "-" just a guess.
[01:08] <gerep> Chaser: I'll try it but I think it will only not load the user variables
[01:11] <gerep> Chaser: that was it! Thanks a lot! :D
[01:12] <Chaser> gerep:  :) cool.
[01:13] <Foxhoundz> how do i check to see what user initiated the last shutdown?
[01:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> gerep, sounds like an environment var issue then
[01:21] <vfw> Foxhoundz: You can look at /var/log/syslog
[01:22] <michael_p> hi i like the new ubuntu mate
[01:22] <michael_p> shame that itunes is not supoorted
[01:23] <Foxhoundz> the last syslog entry before the shutdown was just regular cron task
[01:31] <vfw> Foxhoundz: There are hardware issues that can cause shutodown, power surge, heat, etc. etc.
[01:31] <vfw> Foxhoundz: Is it a desktop PC?
[01:32] <Foxhoundz> no it's a low power headless server
[01:32] <TaPX> Привет, есть русскоговорящие? Ай нид хэлп
[01:32] <theJian> I try to iterate files in bash script, because some files name include space, so I set IFS=\n, but it separates file 'money' to 'mo' and 'ey'.
[01:32] <Foxhoundz> vfw: auth logs didn't show anything either
[01:32] <theJian> How can I fix this?
[01:33] <Foxhoundz> I'm just going to scuttle the whole thing and wipe the entire disk
[01:33] <Foxhoundz> and start anew
[01:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, iterate files from what?
[01:33] <TaPX> How to create usb-flash with windows-xp in linux os?
[01:34] <vfw> TaPX: Vbox?
[01:34] <TaPX> Hey guys, please, help me
[01:34] <Ben64> TaPX: ask ##windows
[01:35] <TaPX> Я так и думал
[01:35] <theJian> Eduard_Munteanu: iterate files recursively from a bunch of folds
[01:35] <vfw> TaPX: I think you need to elaborate just a bit.  We are not sure what you're asking.
[01:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, are you using 'find'?
[01:35] <theJian> Eduard_Munteanu: yes
[01:36] <vfw> TaPX: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[01:36] <TaPX> vfw: no, in terminal
[01:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, then just use -exec to run the commands
[01:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> That's the best way.
[01:36] <Ben64> TaPX: you want to put windows xp onto a flash drive and have it be bootable? thats a question for ##windows
[01:37] <geomyidae_> Am I wasting my time asking upstart questions here? Oh well, I'll try anyway.
[01:37] <geomyidae_> Why does upstart say my service is start/running, when it only contains a single "echo" statement that I already see in the log file?
[01:37] <TaPX> Ben64: I want do this in linux :)
[01:38] <Ben64> TaPX: its a windows issue, talk to ##windows they will tell you how what tools to use
[01:38] <vfw> TaPX: If you have an image that is suitable for a butable usb, you can use dd
[01:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, e.g.   find /path ... -exec some_command {} \;
[01:38] <TaPX> vfw: dd does not work
[01:38] <vfw> TaPX: dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sd?
[01:39] <Ben64> TaPX: ASK ##WINDOWS
[01:39] <vfw> TaPX: It would wrok if the image is all there and is bootable.
[01:39] <Ben64> vfw: not correct
[01:40] <LegalAction> How do I correct X problems?
[01:40] <vfw> LegalAction: Depends on the nature of the X problem.
[01:40] <TaPX> Ben64: I understand you, guru
[01:40] <Ben64> geomyidae_: exit status probably
[01:40] <geomyidae_> Ben64: it's an echo statement and I don't have "respawn" enabled
[01:41] <thecyclone> hi, i would like to create some gui based installers for ubuntu. Can someone help me with how to get started?
[01:41] <geomyidae_> I guess I could look up when `echo` returns non-zero, but I feel relatively safe assuming that's not the issue :)
[01:41] <michael_p> has anyone install itunes in ubuntu
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> !itunes | michael_p
[01:42] <thecyclone> !players
[01:42] <michael_p> purchase
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> !deb | thecyclone
[01:42] <thecyclone> michael_p, why dont you use spotify
[01:42] <michael_p> could do
[01:43] <vfw> LegalAction: First thing to do is look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:43] <theJian> Eduard_Munteanu: I do this for converting file format, eg. abc.ogg to abc.mp3, how can I do this using 'find'
[01:43] <geomyidae_> Good thing there are so many users of upstart, I can ask around /s
[01:43] <Ben64> geomyidae_: that attitude won't get you very far here
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: playonlinux has also itunes but older version
[01:45] <michael_p> i was looking at getting windows xp
[01:45] <michael_p> for vb
[01:45] <LegalAction> vfw I don't see /var
[01:45] <vfw> !vbox | michael_p
[01:46] <michael_p> i have the orgional cd but lost serial
[01:46] <vfw> LegalAction: I can't find it for you.  Sorry.
[01:46] <thecyclone> windows XP?
[01:46] <thecyclone> support is removed for it
[01:46] <michael_p> who cares
[01:46] <Ben64> you should
[01:46] <thecyclone> i dont understand why someone wants to install an obsolete OS
[01:46] <vfw> LegalAction: But it should be there...
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> lets not discuss windows here guys
[01:47] <michael_p> what about windows vista
[01:47] <thecyclone> nope
[01:47] <thecyclone> even worse
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> !ot | michael_mbp
[01:47] <vfw> michael_p: Not interested.
[01:47] <thecyclone> go for windows 10 or windows 7 if you will
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: try some ubuntu itunes tricks for your needs
[01:47] <vfw> thecyclone: Really?
[01:48] <michael_p> nah for 1 itunes music file its ok
[01:48] <LegalAction> vfw I think I'm going to reinstall everything
[01:48] <thecyclone> vfw: i use windows 10 with Ubuntu 14.04 in dual boot
[01:48] <michael_p> i was looking at that
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> thecyclone: please stay on topic
[01:48] <thecyclone> i use windows for gaming and matlab
[01:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, find /path -name \*.ogg -print0 | while read -r -d '' fn; do base=$(basename "$fn" .ogg); convert "${base}.ogg" "${base.mp3}"; done
[01:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> Er.
[01:48] <vfw> thecyclone: I use linux
[01:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> "${base}.mp3"
[01:49] <thecyclone> anyway please someone help me with creating deb packages
[01:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, find /path -name \*.ogg -print0 | while read -r -d '' fn; do mp3=$(sed 's/ogg$/mp3/' <<< "$fn"); convert "$fn" "$mp3"; done
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> !checkinstall | thecyclone
[01:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> That should do.
[01:54] <linuxw10> hola
[01:55] <ElevyNJ> Evening. I need some help setting up an HP printer on Ubuntu. it's going to be off a system that has no working screen and is being used as a print server
[01:55] <linuxw10> alguien sabría decirme como arrancar ubuntu desde  usb y librarme  de uefi y windows
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> !es | linuxw10
[01:56] <linuxw10> perdón-sorry
[01:59] <NekoMaid420> So I'm not in sudoers file and I have one user. What can I do to put myself back in it?
[02:00]  * geomyidae_ starts authoring new upstart job install-systemd-and-purge-upstart.conf
[02:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> NekoMaid420, gpasswd -a user sudoers
[02:02] <NekoMaid420> What will that do?
[02:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> Add your user to the sudoers group.
[02:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> Er, should be sudo or wheel.
[02:03] <geomyidae_> Doesn't that depends on how their sudo is configured? Mine is "wheel" not "sudo", certianly not "sudoers"
[02:03]  * geomyidae_ forget they're in #ubuntu and sudo is preconfigured a certain way
[02:04] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, you want to configure /etc/sudoers? Use visudo or such.
[02:04] <geomyidae_> No, sorry Eduard_Munteanu, I was in {other-distro} mentality and was saying that the group to join is dependent on how the /etc/sudoers file is configured.
[02:04] <bufferloss> how large should I make my partitions? so far I’m only seeing minimum recommended sizes in my google searches
[02:05] <NekoMaid420> Eduard_Munteanu: Do I have to run that command with sudo?
[02:05] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: yes, if a regular, non-root/non-sudo user could add themselves without root authority, there wouldn't be much point :)
[02:05] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, one big partition or assign like 40GiB to / and the rest to /home. Figures vary depending on your usage.
[02:06] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: ok, I was going to use a separate /var partition as well
[02:06] <NekoMaid420> Yeah, that's my impression. I can't execute any sudo commands at all right now geomyidae_ since my machine has only one user and that user is not in the sudoers file
[02:06] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: hm, that's a bit strange, if I recall, Ubuntu puts the original user in the sudoers file
[02:07] <geomyidae_> Otherwise, I'm not sure how you'd go about it, except in some not-so-nice ways
[02:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, oh, well, it depends then. A lot of stuff may end up on /var in some cases, and little in others.
[02:07] <NekoMaid420> Which is true, or was true. I was missing around with groups and I may have either deleted the admin group or simply removed myself from it
[02:07] <NekoMaid420> Though, I'm not entirely sure. Is there a way to check that configuration geomyidae_?
[02:08] <mushir> I can't get network connection to work for any guest on virtualbox using ubuntu as host a tired every setting but no luck
[02:08] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: you can check your groups with `groups` and check sudo's config with `cat /etc/sudoers` possibly
[02:08] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: yeah so my main concern here is that I will be working with rather large databases
[02:08] <bufferloss> along the lines of greater than 40GB
[02:08] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: but yeah, if you've removed yourself from that group, it's time to break out the big-person gloves...
[02:08] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: unless by change you've activated the root account on your install....
[02:08] <bufferloss> and I would prefer to be able to just let the db take up as much room as it wants, and let the home folder take up as much room as it wants
[02:09] <bufferloss> so, it seems like either I want to store the postgres data dir in the /home partition
[02:09] <bufferloss> or… well, yeah that’s sort of my main thought at the moment
[02:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, a better convention would be using /srv rather than /home
[02:10] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: I've just skimmed this, but it seems like a good way for you to fix your issue: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[02:10] <NekoMaid420> I don't think I have activated it geomyidae_ nor can I access that file :( I don't think I've used the root account on this computer
[02:10] <geomyidae_> curious if psychocats is still around... I remember that from when I was an ubuntu user.
[02:10] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: that's fine, check the link I posted and see if it makes some sense or not
[02:10] <NekoMaid420> Nice! I think that's what got linked to me earlier, but I forgot it at work, haha. Thanks geomyidae_
[02:12]  * geomyidae_ even has logging in his upstart script, can confirm that the last line was executed and yet upstart thinks it's still running
[02:12] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: hmm, sure, that’s a possibility, it’s not much different than using the default of /var/lib for the postgres db directory
[02:12] <bufferloss> the issue I’m contemplating is the possibility/eventuality that my db may likely outgrow its partition
[02:12] <bufferloss> and similarly that my /home dir may outgrow its partition
[02:13] <bufferloss> mostly only a concern if I have to choose right now to size them without really being 100% sure of how much space I’ll use on either one
[02:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, you might want to use LVM and leave some extra space unallocated, if that's more comforting.
[02:14] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: yeah I’ve been hearing about LVM, how do I setup/choose/etc LVM?
[02:14] <bufferloss> I’m looking at gparted right now
[02:14] <bufferloss> but the only choices I see effectively are “primary” or “logical” when I go to change my partitions
[02:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, not sure, I haven't set up LVM with the installer in ages
[02:15] <coffeeguy> hi how do i make all my apps use openvpn in ubuntu 14.04.3 with Gufw
[02:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> coffeeguy, you just need to add a redirect-gateway directive to the openvpn config
[02:16] <coffeeguy> is there a how-to?
[02:16] <coffeeguy> aah of course thank you /me googles redirec*
[02:20] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: hmm, another question, gparted has an option called “Device for boot loader installation”
[02:20] <bufferloss> I have 2 separate physical drives, one with windows that I just installed, and now this new empty drive I’m going to install ubuntu
[02:21] <bufferloss> do I want to choose my windows drive for the “boot loader” or do I choose the actual drive I intend to install ubuntu on?
[02:21] <bufferloss> or does the mount point parameter take care of the “which drive to install ubuntu on"
[02:21] <bufferloss> i.e. whatever partition I specify as / basically, that’s where the system will install
[02:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, the drive with Ubuntu is likely better, as it doesn't interfere with Windows (e.g. get erased later on), but you'll have to boot from it
[02:22]  * geomyidae_ isnt even sure what the gparted option is used for
[02:22] <geomyidae_> It also depends on your traditional boot method, how you want to dual boot, etc.
[02:22] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: ahh, ok so I should choose my ubuntu drive, but then I’ll probably need to update/change my bios to try to boot from that drive first I’m guessing
[02:22] <bufferloss> cuz right now my bios tries to boot from my windows drive
[02:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Yes.
[02:23] <bufferloss> ok cool
[02:23] <geomyidae_> If you install a NEW EFI System Partition, then you will have to use your machine boot menu to choose which OS to boot. If you install into the same ESP, then you can use systemd-boot or something else as a boot manager to choose the boot loader.
[02:23] <geomyidae_> FWIW, you can programatically restart into a different OS using the system boot manager... haven't figured out how to do it with systemd-boot yet though...
[02:25] <lunix> hola buenas noches
[02:27] <bufferloss> ok, here goes nothin… lol
[02:27] <lunix> una pregunta apenas instale xubuntu en esta maquina la v.14 y cuando hice  el update a la 15 me dio este erorr ( apci pcc probe failed initramfs )hasta ahora me es dificil entrar al pc
[02:27] <bufferloss> 500G /home and 400G /var
[02:29] <lunix> una pregunta apenas instale xubuntu en esta maquina la v.14 y cuando hice  el update a la 15 me dio este erorr ( apci pcc probe failed initramfs )hasta ahora me es dificil entrar al pc
[02:30] <lunix> #ubuntu-es
[02:30] <lunix> una pregunta apenas instale xubuntu en esta maquina la v.14 y cuando hice  el update a la 15 me dio este erorr ( apci pcc probe failed initramfs )hasta ahora me es dificil entrar al pc
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> !es | lunix
[02:36] <TaPX> Уна пергунта - красотишша
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !ru | TaPX
[02:38] <xidi> q
[02:39] <xidi> quit
[02:39] <unni> please help!!!cmos setting error every time i login my computer
[02:44] <vfw> unni: What cmos setting error?
[02:55] <edisto> does 15.10 support Fury X? or do I have to install kernel 4.3 rc?
[02:57] <vcoinminer> hi. I have multiple pc in same ip and I've set ufw to allow anything from that ip, however ufw only allow one pc to access, how should I solve that? (probably because mac address?)
[02:59] <SchrodingersScat> vcoinminer: why not give them another IP?
[03:00] <vcoinminer> SchrodingerScat because I have only one IP... actualy the IP is used by router, it simply pcs under that router
[03:08] <bufferloss> so I just installed ubuntu
[03:08] <bufferloss> but I don’t get the boot loader… my bios doesn’t give me the option to boot from my second HD, only my first
[03:09] <bufferloss> I was going to change the boot pointer in my bios but since I can’t do that, I figure I need to reinstall/setup/etc the MBR on the correct disk
[03:09] <bufferloss> how do I do that?
[03:11] <wileee> !grub | bufferloss
[03:11] <wileee> bufferloss, basic mbr info in the message I think
[03:20] <michael_p> anyone know about youtube
[03:21] <michael_p> or uploaded a youtube video
[03:22] <bufferloss> wileee: yep that got me what I needed, thanks
[03:24] <wileee> bufferloss, no problem. ;)
[03:24] <bufferloss> wileee: ok, next step and or challege is how to fix my resolution :/
[03:25] <bufferloss> I’ve got a 980GTX Ti but the only resolution I can select in the settings area is 640x480
[03:26] <Gerowen> Question for you Ubuntu-ers, are you able to watch Hulu?  I've watched Hulu for years on Linux PCs, and all of a sudden, out of the blue, it no longer works on my Linux PCs which currently run Debian.  Using Firefox it tells me to install HAL, which is deprecated and no longer in the package manager, which means hunting down and compiling it and all its dependencies, and using Google Chrome it tells me the browser doesn't support playing protected
[03:26] <Gerowen> content.
[03:26] <[n0mad]> no Gerowen
[03:26] <[n0mad]> been broke for a couple of months
[03:26] <wileee> bufferloss, Not an area I really know, but lots of helpers here who know.
[03:27] <bufferloss> wileee: ok, I mean I figure I can try installing the proprietary nvidia drivers
[03:27] <Gerowen> n0mad: That's what I thought, getting ready to send a nastygram to Hulu tech support.
[03:27] <[n0mad]> it actually caused me to move my fire stick to my bedroom and use my 360 in the living room
[03:27] <bufferloss> I was hoping to at least get a basic functionally working setup just with nv/neuvau or whatever ubuntu comes with
[03:27] <[n0mad]> cuz i can't use my laptop for it anymore
[03:27] <wileee> bufferloss, Hae you looked in the additional drivers tab in software & updates?
[03:27] <wileee> Have*
[03:28] <bufferloss> not yet, I usually use apt-get
[03:28] <xxy> xxy
[03:28] <bufferloss> that monolithic “software center” thing makes me leary :P
[03:28] <wileee> bufferloss, I would start there if it were me, it is a specific app just for this.
[03:28] <bufferloss> is that anything related to jockey?
[03:29] <[n0mad]> bufferloss: software & updates, not software center
[03:29] <bufferloss> cuz last time I used jockey was epic fail :/
[03:29] <vfw> bufferloss: Yes
[03:29] <wileee> bufferloss, Yeah I believe so, there is a command that brings it up I think
[03:29] <bufferloss> I’m gonna let apt-get update && apt-get upgrade finish first
[03:30] <Gerowen> n0mad: I let my subscription run out, thinking about hooking up the PS3 in the living room so my wife can watch Hulu, but I've got the desktop kinda set up as a "Media PC", game console emulators, DVD player, you name it.  I just didn't know if it was something specific to Debian stable (old library version or something) or if it affected other Linux distributions as well.
[03:30] <vfw> bufferloss: Good idea.
[03:31] <[n0mad]> Gerowen: i think that some distributions actually have it working still but i haven't looked at it in a while, i finally just gave up. they may have also lost it since then. not sure.
[03:31] <bufferloss> [n0mad]: Hulu probably got wise and added some extra layer of DRM-ish type stuff
[03:31] <[n0mad]> yeah, it was a change on hulu
[03:31] <bufferloss> thus breaking free-ish tools like whatever Ubuntu had been using
[03:32] <bufferloss> [n0mad]: get a roku or something
[03:32] <bufferloss> I have a roku, xbox, ps etc, and all of them have Hulu
[03:32] <[n0mad]> bufferloss: i have it working on my fire stick, roku and 360.
[03:32] <Darkenvy> My lamp installation wont perform php properly. while MAMP can view the same PHP file and render it correctly
[03:32] <Gerowen> It has been a month or so since I first noticed it.  Strange that we Linux users spent YEARS crying about Netflix, we finally get an updated library that satisfied Netflix enough to enable playback using native Chrome on Linux systems, and then Hulu goes and turns it off, lol.
[03:32] <[n0mad]> i was just responding to Gerowen
[03:33] <bufferloss> oh, doh, yes that’s right
[03:33] <bufferloss> Gerowen: probably Hulu did something
[03:33] <bufferloss> Gerowen: get a roku or similar
[03:33] <bufferloss> amazon has one, apple has one
[03:34] <Gerowen> bufferloss: I've got a PS3, but I want it working on my laptop, desktop, etc.
[03:34] <bufferloss> you could always dual boot or run a VM
[03:34] <Gerowen> bufferloss: I'll reinstate my paid membership when they change whatever stupid DRM policy they implemented.
[03:34] <bufferloss> windows is kinda slow in a VM but I’ve done that before for netflix
[03:34] <bufferloss> Gerowen: hah, that’ll probably be “never"
[03:36] <bufferloss> TV rots your brain anyway, it’s better like this :P
[03:36] <Gerowen> bufferloss: It's not THAT important to me.  I'll just go without it.  Windows is painful enough when you actually install it, let alone run it in a VM.  Last time I started my Win7 VM to test a Python script I wrote I decided to go ahead and install updates so that the VM was up to date, BIG MISTAKE.  10 freakin' years later, lol.
[03:36] <bufferloss> get an SSD
[03:37] <bufferloss> and metric crap tons of RAM
[03:38] <jason__> I've managed to run some somewhat graphically intense windows only games in a virtual machine.
[03:38] <Gerowen> jason_ : What VM software?
[03:39] <bufferloss> jason__: have you tried wine for any of those? wine has relatively decent game support
[03:39] <jason__> whatever the free vmware is
[03:39] <bufferloss> certainly many titles are lacking in good support, but plenty of them are robust on wine
[03:39] <bufferloss> jason__: is there a free vmware anymore?
[03:39] <plytro> yeah
[03:39] <bufferloss> I usually go with virtualbox
[03:39] <plytro> vmware player
[03:39] <Gerowen> jason_ : I just use Virtualbox, and DirectX support in it is still marked "experimental" last time I looked.
[03:39] <bufferloss> plytro: that’s the one where you can only run premade images though right?
[03:39] <plytro> bufferloss: its changed
[03:40] <bufferloss> ah ok, interesting, I might check it out again
[03:40] <plytro> you can create and other things now
[03:40] <plytro> no snapshots
[03:40] <jason__> I think VMWare has better support for that sort of thing.
[03:40] <plytro> I ran stuff in Wine
[03:40] <plytro> team fortress 2 and teh like
[03:40] <bufferloss> yeah lots of big title run fine in wine
[03:40] <plytro> no issues with that genre of game
[03:40] <bufferloss> scroll through the list and look for “gold” status I think it is
[03:40] <plytro> now lots of games on steam are native linux
[03:40] <jason__> team fortress 2 runs natively on linux, no?
[03:40] <bufferloss> but even non-gold are often fine
[03:40] <plytro> jason__: at the time it didn't
[03:40] <bufferloss> jason__: not natively, it runs using WINE
[03:41] <Darkenvy> PHP LAMP problem: http://192.173.174.132/x_location/x_current.php is blank but it should not be.
[03:41] <plytro> bufferloss: it is native now
[03:41] <bufferloss> oh, well and yeah the valve games all run on linux these days
[03:41] <plytro> so is counter strike, etc
[03:41] <bufferloss> jason__: so yes, that includes TF2 CS DOTA etc
[03:41] <Darkenvy> on my Mac, MAMP displays x_location/x_current.php correctly
[03:41] <vfw> Darkenvy: apache?
[03:41] <Darkenvy> is that the problem?
[03:41] <plytro> at the time (pentium 4, geforce 6600 gt) it ran in wine
[03:41] <Darkenvy> I have apache2 installed
[03:42] <quantic> Darkenvy: um, I'm going to say that the code isn't complete. I also have your database password. You should also never design an application to use the mysql root user.
[03:42] <vfw> Darkenvy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:42] <Darkenvy> Its not my code :P. Dang time to change THAT password XD
[03:43] <bufferloss> Darkenvy: I’m also gonna say that you maybe want #apache or #mamp or #macosx instead
[03:43] <Darkenvy> I had a problem earlier with the PHP not reading another PHP file through require(). Im guessing its all related
[03:43] <bufferloss> er sorry #httpd
[03:43] <plytro> looks like you end after a <script>...</script> no more html tags
[03:43] <Darkenvy> I dont want the mac anything though :S. I just tried it on there as a control to this experiment
[03:43] <plytro> the script to include google maps
[03:44] <plytro> php is probably failing to do something
[03:44] <quantic> Darkenvy: check pms
[03:44] <Darkenvy> okay
[03:45] <Darkenvy> the source of what is viewable seems to not be the full code
[03:45] <Darkenvy> of what should be interpreted
[03:47] <bufferloss> Darkenvy: you want one of ##php or #httpd or #mysql
[03:47] <Darkenvy> okay
[03:47] <bufferloss> probably #httpd
[03:49] <Gerowen> Getting ready to switch back over to Ubuntu.  I tried Debian for the past couple weeks, and it's fine, but lacks "polish" in certain areas.  Font anti-aliasing is lacking in certain scenarios, the versions of certain software packages are already pretty dated, etc.  I'll go ahead and get 15.04 installed and then do an in-place upgrade to 15.10 in a couple of days.  Plus the people in this IRC channel are generally more active I think, easier to get a
[03:49] <Gerowen> quick answer.
[03:52] <Gerowen> Here's an example of the font issue.  No amount of installing additional fonts, including MSTT Core fonts, or adjusting the font settings in the Gnome Tweak UI fixes it.  This is what I see on certain websites, like CNN in this example.  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6017319/Screenshots/cnnfonts.png
[03:52] <Gerowen> Ubuntu just seems a little more polished when it comes to basic things.
[03:54] <bufferloss> Gerowen: yes, Ubuntu is generally more polished, my anti aliasing is pretty much fine
[03:54] <bufferloss> Gerowen: debian is really a server distribution
[03:54] <bufferloss> if you want anti aliasing you want more of a workstation distro
[03:55] <bufferloss> Ubuntu is definitely my only choice for a workstation
[03:55] <bufferloss> I dunno, I mean Fedora is probably ok for some folks. I used it back during the FC1 and FC2 days, then I tried it again more recently, couple times in the past couple years
[03:55] <bufferloss> I just like Ubuntu so much better
[03:55] <Gerowen> bufferloss: I don't mind doing work customizing things, but it's nice to have a good starting point where the basic stuff is taken care of.
[03:56] <bufferloss> I had definite problems with Fedora in terms of getting what I wanted
[03:56] <bufferloss> Fedora is an ok choice if you’re planning to prepare to work with CentOS servers for example
[03:56] <bufferloss> all the things you learn on Fedora will be relatively apropos to CentOS, but otherwise, I’d stay stick with Ubuntu
[03:56] <bufferloss> Gerowen: if you’re interested in slightly more proprietary things like Hulu, Ubuntu is the only choice right now
[03:57] <bufferloss> Gerowen: evidence: steam is only officially supported on Ubuntu
[03:57] <Gerowen> bufferloss: I remember I used Fedora Core 4 for a little while and liked it, but it seemed like, at least at that time, RPMs, or at least the ones I chose, were hard to work with.  Every time I would find something in RPM format and try to install it, I'd have to go find RPMs of all its dependencies and install those first, or drop them into the same folder with the end product so it could find them and install them.  Apt-get/Aptitude just seemed
[03:57] <Gerowen> smarter and easier to work with.
[03:57] <bufferloss> you can install steam basically anywhere, I’ve installed steam just fine on Arch for example
[03:57] <bufferloss> but technically, Valve only “truly” supports Ubuntu
[03:57] <bufferloss> Gerowen: meh, yum is fine, pretty good and not really any better or worse than apt-get as I remember
[03:58] <Gerowen> bufferloss: Yeah I've been playing my Steam games on Debian with no issues.  In a perfect world everything would abide by the Debian Free Software Guidelines or the GNU GPL, but there's some things in life that I need or want to use that don't.
[03:58] <bufferloss> but dealing with proprietary repos is more of a pain
[03:58] <bufferloss> (more of a pain on fedora)
[03:58] <bufferloss> Ubuntu has great repos, free and non-free
[04:00] <Gerowen> Now if deja-dup would hurry up with finishing my backup I could get one with installing Ubuntu, :P
[04:03] <quantic> I use Ubuntu for personal workstations and servers. My workstation is CentOS, same as the servers I manage.
[04:03] <Gerowen> Question, if I install the Beta 2 for 15.10 will it automagically update to the "release" version on the 22nd?  Does it run off the same repos?
[04:03] <quantic> Rather: My work-workstation is CentOS, etc.
[04:04] <quantic> Gerowen: Yes, it'll follow the wily repos.
[04:05] <Gerowen> quantic: Never used CentOS.  Was gonna install it in a VM a few days back just to play around with it, but my laptop doesn't support 64 bit virtual machines for some reason (even though it has a 64 bit processor it's missing certain extensions I guess), and there's no 32 bit version of CentOS available in the newer versions that I could find.
[04:05] <quantic> Gerowen: The virtualization extensions may be turned off. I run into that a lot on some hardware.
[04:06] <Gerowen> quantic: Will have to go check the BIOS settings, cause' I can run 32 bit guest systems, just not 64 bit.
[04:07] <bufferloss> hmm, by default after a fresh install I’m not seeing multiple desktops
[04:07] <bufferloss> how do I change that
[04:11] <quantic> Gerowen: What CPU are you running? I can verify whether or not you've got the necessary extensions.
[04:12] <Gerowen> bufferloss: Change the default, or add desktops?
[04:13] <Gerowen> quantic: Intel Pentium B960
[04:13] <Gerowen> quantic: dual core, 2.2 Ghz
[04:13] <quantic> Gerowen: Whoa. No, you definitely do NOT have the necessary extensions.
[04:13] <Gerowen> quantic: :P
[04:14] <Gerowen> Like I said, it's 64 bit, but it's just an old Toshiba laptop.  I use it for some light gaming, browsing, e-mailing, movies/music, occasionally coding on a couple newblet projects I have on sourceforge, but nothing terribly CPU intensive.
[04:15] <Gerowen> The biggest CPU hog of a game I've played I think has been Half Life 2 Episode 2, I just finished it last week or so.
[04:16] <RepThis1> I was wondering if anyone knew how to configure ubuntu to use a vpn using openvpn or the likes via commandline? I have the .ovpn, ca.crt, and crl.pem but when i tried to connect it freezes after username and password authentication.
[04:17] <quantic> Gerowen: If you're interested in checking it out: http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/isos/i386/CentOS-7-i386-DVD-1503.iso
[04:18] <quantic> Gerowen: There's a 32-bit release, now.
[04:18] <bufferloss> Gerowen: well, I want multiple desktops
[04:18] <bufferloss> maybe I don’t have them configured
[04:18] <Gerowen> quantic: Ah Ok, once I get bumped back over to Ubuntu I'll check it out, :-)
[04:18] <bufferloss> enable them add then, whatever
[04:18] <bufferloss> I don’t see anywhere in the settings panel to do this
[04:19] <quantic> RepThis1: When it freezes, do you get a message of any kind? Anything in the logs? Network interface configuration and state at the time of the freeze?
[04:19] <Gerowen> bufferloss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/260510/how-do-i-turn-on-workspaces-why-do-i-only-have-one-workspace
[04:19] <Gerowen> Apparently the setting is under "Appearance".
[04:20] <RepThis1> quantic: i wouldnt be sure which logs to check but as the process ran it did give some output on which last step it was able to complete. Give me a second though cause someone said i just need a password file to add to the line of arguments when run.
[04:21] <quantic> RepThis1: If you're only using username/password auth, that doesn't sound right.
[04:21] <quantic> RepThis1: But let me know how it goes.
[04:25] <Twirl> hi, where cna i submit a bug ?
[04:26] <Twirl> nvm
[04:26] <Gerowen> That was fast, lol, 3 seconds.
[04:39] <RepThis1> quantic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12883485/ it freezes on the last step, then usually i have to power cycle
[04:42] <quantic> RepThis1: You really shouldn't be using a file for username and password.
[04:43] <quantic> RepThis1: That said, there's nothing in that log that indicates an issue. Can you add "verb 4" to your .ovpn and try again?
[04:45] <quantic> RepThis1: And remove the password file from the mix. :P
[04:45] <Jordan_U> RepThis1: A better solution, assuming you don't need the VPN before logging in, would be to save your VPN credentials to the GNOME Keyring, which will then be unlocked by your user's password when you log in. No passwords stored unencrypted/unhashed at all.
[04:45] <quantic> ^
[04:45] <RepThis1> Jordan_U: headless vps server.
[04:46] <Jordan_U> RepThis1: OK.
[04:46] <quantic> RepThis1: Then you shouldn't be using username and password authentication at all.
[04:49] <xxneolithicxx> https://savecrypto.org/
[04:54] <RepThis1> quantic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12883542/
[04:55] <quantic> RepThis1: This is for PIA. If you're having issues, they're the ones to talk to.
[05:10] <thetrav> I have one physical disk /dev/sdb and I want two LVM VGroups on it.  How do I go about that?
[05:23] <nullwolf>  /msg NickServ register f11321 tres.acton@gmail.com
[05:25] <dinoocch> umm...
[05:28] <Lonely> -
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> nullwolf: better change pass now
[05:35] <kaiza> My laptop's built in wireless card (Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN) no longer works on either the an or bgn on my wifi network. It says it connects, but gets no internet access. Booted into windows and works fine. I think my drivers in Ubuntu need fixing, any suggestions?
[05:36] <cn28h> kaiza: did you successfully get an IP address?
[05:36] <cn28h> I'd check the simplest things first
[05:36] <cn28h> if you haven't already
[05:37] <hateball> kaiza: Did you change kernels?
[05:38] <hateball> kaiza: Rather, what has changed on your install between wifi working and now?
[05:38] <kaiza> cn28h, Yes
[05:38] <RepThis1> Whats the "systemctl enable" equivalent in 14.04 ?
[05:39] <kaiza> hateball, thats the odd thing, it was working fine when i went to bed, wasn't this morning
[05:40] <Twirl> hi guys, i've submitted this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1508309 can someone take a lil look at it? thanks.
[05:40] <hateball> kaiza: Right, well, do you have automatic updates enabled? You may have gotten a new kernel installed which is not active until next reboot
[05:40] <kaiza> hateball, Ah yes that is likely
[05:40] <hateball> kaiza: You can review /var/log/apt/history* to see what packages have changed lately
[05:41] <hateball> kaiza: In the case of a new kernel, try entering the grub menu at boot and picking an older entry and see if that behaves better
[05:41] <hateball> Regressions do happen, sadly
[05:41] <kaiza> hateball, Okay thanks, ill try that
[05:42] <luc1f3r> http://h311.us/
[05:46] <Gerowen> Back, with Ubuntu rockin' and rollin'.
[05:48] <chigang> hi, when I install Ubuntu 14.04 server, there is a error "mounting /dev/fd0 on /media failed No such file or directory", so install failed. who can help me, thanks
[05:49] <hateball> chigang: is this in a VM or on iron?
[05:49] <chigang> hateball: in a baremetal
[05:50] <hateball> chigang: How strange, it should have no business trying to mount a floppy drive
[05:51] <chigang> hateball: yes, it is so strange, I install on a blade server, there is no floppy drive.
[05:51] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: are you customizing your partitions and mount points or using the guided recommended stuff for that
[05:54] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: likely that your hardware has an enabled floppy controller that you likely dont want to use
[05:54] <hateball> chigang: A bit of google https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1054414/comments/35
[05:54] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: I used a preseed file for auto installation.
[05:54] <hateball> chigang: So disabling floppy in BIOS may be helpful
[05:55] <hateball> If the preseed was generated on a system with a floppy and you're on one without... that may break things, I suppose
[05:57] <chigang> hateball: thanks, I will try it.
[05:58] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz:  I try to disable floppy first,thanks.
[06:00] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: The mount failing is no big deal, this should not cause an instal fail
[06:01] <Gerowen> Any idea why in later versions of Ubuntu/Debian, there's no "New tab" option in Gnome Terminal any more, it just opens a separate window?
[06:02] <Gerowen> I know I can CTRL+SHIFT+T, just curiosity really.
[06:02] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: but Installation is stop, I can't see any information from the screen. so I think is failed.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Gerowen: wich ubuntu version is this?
[06:02] <Gerowen> 15.04
[06:02] <chigang> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VokPqU2X/installation_fail_screen
[06:03] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: that is a picture about it.
[06:04] <BuzzardBuzz> Weird. After letting it sit for about 15 minutes on the blank purple screen, it started working again, went through setting up the user, asked about encrypting the home directory, then went back to a blank purple screen. There were a few other occasions where it sat to think for 5 minutes or so, but installation finished ok. (eventually)
[06:05] <BuzzardBuzz> from a thread about the issue in the forums
[06:09] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: this issue is marked sovled in the forums. the 15 minutes is the time it takes to give up trying to mount the floppy that really is not desired anyway
[06:15] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: link to issue thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219435
[06:16] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: is it not fail? just wait 15 mintues, it will continue to installation , is it right?
[06:19] <paszteto> dd
[06:19] <paszteto> dsds
[06:19] <Majki_> Siema
[06:19] <paszteto> yo
[06:19] <Majki_> Karol niech wbije
[06:20] <Majki_> halo halo
[06:21] <Majki_> siema
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> elo
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> co jest?
[06:21] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: there is a chance that it will work after 15 minutes of trying to mount that floppy, then it might give up trying to mount and continue
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> MAJKI TO GEJ
[06:21] <Majki_> Karol pedał
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> Majki siemano
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> dawno cie nie widzialem
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> ziom
[06:21] <Majki_> Karol nie wyłączaj kompa
[06:21] <paszteto> Kurwy
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> ty cwelu
[06:21] <paszteto> x\D
[06:22] <Majki_> czemu znów to zrobileś ?
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> smieciu
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> bo cie dojade
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> nie wiem jak to bedzie ziom
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> nie wiem jak to bedize ziom
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> NIE WIEM
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> NIEWIEM
[06:22] <paszteto> Nie wiem
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> NIE WIEM
[06:23] <wileee> multiple personality
[06:23] <BuzzardBuzz> is english channel only today i thought
[06:23] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe rules changed?
[06:24] <kazuma_> That last post was something about ctrl f4 or f1 was sort of confused what he was meaning there but might help
[06:27] <ebru> hello everyone, I have a resolution problem on my desktop. I even cant boot because of the problem.
[06:27] <paszteto> alo
[06:28] <ebru> but I can make ssh to the desktop, and change resolution settings with xrandr from remote
[06:29] <alpaca_sida_xD> 69
[06:29] <ebru> and get gdm.
[06:29] <alpaca_sida_xD> hey
[06:30] <ebru> but I cant set this permanently, I added the command to /etc/gdm/Init/default but it does not work for me
[06:30] <ebru> and I added the command to startup application but does not work for me. How can I solve this problem?
[06:33] <Majki_> halo halo
[06:33] <Majki_> jest tam kto ?
[06:42] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: you are right,  It's just halt for 15 minutes,  thanks very much
[06:55] <quickes> jest kto-to
[06:59] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: Hope your day goes well :)
[07:06] <oddblogger> JOIN
[07:23] <mmdfc> hi
[07:25] <mmdfc> to install tor is it true ? : sudo apt-get install tor ?
[07:51] <schnuppi_> guten morgen
[07:51] <duckblaster> Can someone help me figure out why xrandr isn't working in Lubuntu?
[07:51] <duckblaster> It wakes up the other screens, but they just show black and the mouse doesn't move to them.
[07:58] <schnuppi_> weis jemand ob ubuntu mit flash gut umgehen kann?
[07:58] <JanetP> how do i import KVM virtual machine on a new pc?
[08:00] <DJones> !de | schnuppi_
[08:00] <schnuppi_> oh sorry
[08:01] <duckblaster> Can someone help me figure out why xrandr isn't working in Lubuntu? Anyone?
[08:04] <dm_comp> duckblaster: are you sure it's a Lubuntu issue? have you tried it on a Ubuntu machine. Also I recommend asking it in Lubuntu channel maybe it's a know bug.
[08:05] <duckblaster> No response in #lubuntu
[08:06] <duckblaster> can't get ubuntu to work, compiz pegged cpu at 100%, couldn't do anything
[08:06] <dm_comp> duckblaster: you also need to be more specific about what the issue is ... not working doesn't mean anything
[08:06] <duckblaster> when I run xrandr --output VGA-1-2 --auto --right-of VGA1 it wakes up VGA-1-2, but shows black instead of desktop
[08:07] <duckblaster> mouse is stuck on VGA1 too
[08:08] <Myrtti> duckblaster: do you have a specific reason of using compiz with LXDE?
[08:08] <duckblaster> no, compiz in stock ubuntu desktop
[08:08] <Myrtti> right
[08:08] <JanetP> how do i import KVM virtual machine on a new pc?
[08:09] <duckblaster> I tried to install ubuntu instead, to see if that made a difference
[08:09] <BlackDalek> I have a external USB soundcard. It is not detected in sound settings as an output device - it only shows as an input device.
[08:13] <dm_comp> duckblaster: try disabling compiz ... I tried running lubuntu but had issues with compiz causing screen tearing
[08:14] <dm_comp> some forums recommend disabling compiz
[08:14] <duckblaster> lubunt runs fine, compiz was when I tried ubuntu to see if dual screens worked
[08:15] <duckblaster> 2GHz dual core with 2GB ram and motherboard graphics not enough for compiz?
[08:15] <duckblaster> sudo lspci -v
[08:16] <erebus^> anyone else experiencing loosing hotkeys after an update? im using ctrl + alt + t to open a terminal, but it suddenly stoped working
[08:16] <erebus^> same for ctrl + alt + l for lock
[08:16] <erebus^> happend before to, had to do a reinstall to get them back
[08:16] <erebus^> they are still defined i settings
[08:16] <dm_comp> erebus^: works for me and i updated today
[08:17] <dm_comp> lock too
[08:17] <erebus^> happend to me on two reinstalls now, i cant format my damn mashine to get back hotkeys!
[08:17] <dm_comp> erebus 15.4?
[08:17] <erebus^> yup
[08:18] <erebus^> alt + tab works
[08:18] <erebus^> know any other ctlr + alt hotkeys i can try?
[08:18] <dm_comp> what happens when you hold down meta-key?
[08:19] <dm_comp> do you get keyboard shortcuts screen?
[08:19] <Bleakwise> so erm, when Ubuntu switches to systemd, does that mean we'll have our config files in /etc/sysconfig/?
[08:19] <erebus^> dm_comp: i do...
[08:20] <Bleakwise> and will we start using systemctl for things instead of /etc/init.d/?
[08:20] <erebus^> ctrl + alt + arrow switches workspace like normal
[08:21] <auronandace> Bleakwise: the switch has already happened in 15.04
[08:21] <Bleakwise> I suppose i'll have to take it for a spin
[08:22] <Bleakwise> i have to say, 14.04 seems to be in an odd spot atm, going from  upstart to systemd might be rough
[08:22] <dm_comp> Bleakwise: 15.04 it's been the most stable linux I've used to date. I'm really impressed by it :)
[08:23] <dm_comp> erebus^ I just updated and everything works... not sure what could be causing to for you ... google is your best bet :(
[08:24] <dm_comp> s/to/it
[08:24] <erebus^> dm_comp: yeah, thanks though
[08:24] <erebus^> has happend early as well, o cant be lates update eighter
[08:25] <erebus^> got word there is a new release tomorrow though, so might be a good time for a fresh install anyway
[08:32] <Lapos> Hello, i'm trying to follow a tutorial to config a pxe server, but if i try to install dhcp3-hpa, it installs isc-dhcp-server instead. And if I try to edit /etc/dhcpd3/dhcpd.conf it doesn't exist, instead exist /etc/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf
[08:32] <Lapos> is this a problem?
[08:35] <bekks> Lapos: No?
[08:35] <Lapos> ?
[08:37] <bekks> Lapos: You asked a yes/no question and got "no" as an answer.
[08:37] <Lapos> ah okey, thx then
[08:46] <Kev1904> Hey guys,  it is possible to launch netfilter (iptables) with synproxy state on routed traffic with 2 different in and outbond devices as Synproxy router.
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Kev1904: maybe the ##networking guys can aswer that?
[08:47] <Kev1904> i will ask there, thanks
[08:54] <BlackDalek> I have usb soundcard which identifies as ID 0d8c:0006 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Storm HP-USB500 5.1 Headset. It worked in Ubuntu 9.04. It does not work in Ubuntu 15.04. Not detected as an output device but does work as input device. How do I get this working?
[08:56] <TJ-> BlackDalek: by 'not detected as an output device' you mean ALSA tools cannot see any output sink on the device?
[08:57] <BlackDalek> TJ-, I mean, in System Settings>Sound> there is nothing under the output tab for it.
[08:57] <BlackDalek> TJ-, it only shows under the input tab
[08:58] <citrix> hey can you explain me how tom linked list data are insert into linked list
[09:01] <TJ-> BlackDalek: It's always best to start with the low-level (terminal) tools to verify what devices/sinks/sources are available, and then work up to the GUI. Often the issue is simply that the system has multiple sound devices and a different device has become the default (without specific rules, first discovered becomes the default)
[09:04] <BlackDalek> TJ-, it lists as a device under lsusb... I can select it as a sound card device using alsamixer, but I can't choose it from the sound settings panel in unity.
[09:05] <citrix> hey can you explain me how to linked list data are insert into linked list
[09:05] <citrix> anyone here
[09:05] <citrix> can you explaiin you?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> citrix: maybe in ##programming
[09:06] <citrix> yes
[09:06] <citrix>  i hav 4 elements how to store in stack
 can you explain me ??
[09:07] <bekks> citrix: Just ask in ##programming
[09:08] <citrix> yes
[09:09] <BlackDalek> TJ-, how do I verify what devices/sinks/sources are available?
 yes ask in programming
 can u explain me ?
[09:10] <TJ-> BlackDalek: "aplay -l" to show basic devices; "aplay -L" to show all sinks/sources/profiles
[09:10] <bekks> citrix: Ask ##programming.
[09:12] <citrix> i have done create doubly linked list and i want to store element in the stack how can i do ?<bekks>
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> citrix: do you even have ubuntu?
[09:13] <bekks> citrix: Do you understand that this channel is #ubuntu and not ##programming? Asl ##programming please
[09:14] <BlackDalek> TJ-, both aplay -l and -L output details about the USB sound device.
[09:15] <TJ-> BlackDalek: in the '-L' output ensure there are sinks (output profiles) listed. If so, then I'd guess the issue is simply the GUI has the wrong default output selected. Maybe there's a 'mixer config' or similar option to set that?
[09:18] <BlackDalek> TJ-, aplay -L lists various things such as "IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output" and "2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers" etc... where would I find a "mixer config" to select a default output?
[09:23] <TJ-> BlackDalek: Ensure '-L' also lists sinks (outputs) for the headset DEV as well as the system's built-in sound device. I'd assume you should be seeing DEV=0 for the built-in, and DEV=1 for the headset
[09:23] <OnceMe> Hello people, I have managed to retrieve my passphrase for user, however when I run ecryptfs-mount-private and Im asked for login passphrase, I get: Inserted autho tok with sig into session keyring.. open: Permission denied Error locking counter, what can cause this?
[09:28] <aman_> hello any one owns a lenovo Z51-70 laptop
[09:28] <aman_> ?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> aman_, please avoid wasting time with "anyone?" questions.  State YOUR issue with YOUR details for best results.
[09:30] <OnceMe> omg
[09:30] <OnceMe> I retrived access to files
[09:30] <OnceMe> IMMM about to pass out now
[09:30] <OnceMe> whs
[09:30] <OnceMe> qw[
[09:33] <aman_> im unable to use my wifi , tried various stuff and came across this
[09:33] <aman_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1436940
[09:35] <BlackDalek> TJ-, i don't see anything mentioning sinks in -L so I've pasted it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/12884486/
[09:37] <TJ-> BlackDalek: the headset would appear to be the "CARD=Audio" device, which shows several profiles such as surround21 and so forth. So the outputs are there, and the issue must be in the default selected by the GUI mixer. Change the default.
[09:38] <BlackDalek> TJ-, what GUI mixer?
[09:39] <cfhowlett> aman_, yep.  your wfi chip is unsupported.  the bug is still open and unassigned.
[09:41] <BlackDalek> TJ-, how do I "change the default selected by the gui mixer"? The only place I know of to select an output is system settings>sound.... but the device does NOT show in the list of output devices.
[09:42] <linocisco> hi all
[09:43] <linocisco> i have install viber on my ubuntu 15.04. I dont know how to close or quit viber when I am not using like signout or exit
[09:43] <MindSpark> isn't there something similar to setuid/setgid that makes files that are created in a directory belong to a specific owner?
[09:43] <bazhang> !info viber
[09:43] <linocisco> it is still as shortcut on left top corner
[09:43] <MindSpark> regardles which user created them?
[09:44] <linocisco> bazhang, but I could install viber.deb from its website
[09:44] <bazhang> whats viber
[09:44] <linocisco> !info rubyonrails
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !nfo ruby
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !info ruby
[09:45] <linocisco> bazhang, https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=what+is+viber&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[09:45] <bazhang> linocisco, care to tell us here
[09:54] <OnceMe> uhm how can I open nautilus from live session to see all mounted devices?
[09:59] <capsicum1> hi looking for a useful git gui. any recommendations
[09:59] <capsicum1> perhaps giggle
[09:59] <bazhang> apt-cache search git   have a look capsicum1
[10:01] <capsicum1> bazhang, thanks, that what I was afraid. I am lazy and dont want to have to try them all before settling on one of them.
[10:01] <wafflejock> capsicum1: git cola is nice and simple for doing commits and staging or stashing and things
[10:01] <bazhang> capsicum1, try the offtopic channel for polling then
[10:03] <linocisco> hi all, ps -ax | grep application name  and kill -9 xxxx helped me exit
[10:04] <OnceMe> I cant write to my usb from terminal
[10:04] <OnceMe> Im root
[10:05] <mcphail> OnceMe: does your USB drive have a "write protect" tab, and is that switched off?
[10:06] <OnceMe> I dont know, I can cd /cdrom to it
[10:06] <OnceMe> its on /dev/sdb1 and its mounted
[10:07] <mcphail> I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by "I can cd /cdrom to it"
[10:07] <OnceMe> Well its mounted on /cdrom
[10:07] <OnceMe> my usb is mounted on that
[10:13] <OnceMe> mcphail:I need that mount(r,w)o command
[10:13] <OnceMe> bot knows it but cant remember trigger
[10:14] <somsip> !mount | OnceMe (maybe in the link?)
[10:16] <bekks> OnceMe: Is it a live image, or a persistent installation?
[10:16] <OnceMe> live
[10:17] <bekks> OnceMe: Rhen it is readonly, and you cant mount it read-write.
[10:18] <nickk> Hey, linux question: does anyone understand why I don't need a user's password in order to change my effective user id to his?
[10:19] <bekks> nickk: How do you do that, in particular?
[10:19] <nickk> Currently it looks like I can just change my euid to someone else's with "setreuid()"
[10:20] <OnceMe> bekks:well on USB I have linux ubuntu, and I cant transfer my files on it?
[10:21] <bekks> OnceMe: Since it is a live install - no. You need a persistent installation to do so.
[10:21] <OnceMe> or a backup disk?
[10:21] <bekks> Or a backup disk.
[10:21] <OnceMe> eh I guess Im going to buy one
[10:21] <nickk> So I guss I can "fake" ownership of a file by changing to someone else's euid, but why does this not require a password?
[10:21] <OnceMe> how can I check what connector I have sata/ata etc?
[10:21] <bekks> ´BY looking at the connector.
[10:21] <OnceMe> or Ill jusy buy external one
[10:21] <Bogdaniel> hey guys, i shared a few folders with samba in virtualbox ubuntu guest host windows 10 i could see the original files in the folders but the new files that i created on guest i cannot see them
[10:21] <Bogdaniel> can you help me out guys :D
[10:24] <cfhowlett> bekks, actually you *can* save files to a live usb.  filesystem>media>cdrom = the usb
[10:24] <cfhowlett> and is read/write accessible
[10:24] <OnceMe> cfhowlett:but says its read-system only
[10:24] <OnceMe> I tried to make a dir
[10:24] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, sudo mkdir
[10:24] <bekks> cfhowlett: I thought it is an image of an iso, which isnt writable.
[10:25] <cfhowlett> bekks, true.  but the MEDIA cdrom is writable
[10:25] <hateball> OnceMe: dmidecode will tell you pretty much everything
[10:25] <bekks> cfhowlett: ah ok.
[10:28] <OnceMe> cfhowlett:how from chrooted system to access that media?
[10:29] <OnceMe> because under chroot I have tmp media which is unencrypted (with unecrypted files)
[10:29] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, chrooted?  no idea.  i've never used it.
[10:33] <OnceMe> cfhowlett:I still mkdir: cannot create directory backup: Read-only file system
[10:33] <OnceMe> I run sudo mkdir backup
[10:34] <sevag> hello. i'm trying to create a debian package. in my debian/install file i copy config files in /etc/myapp. if i do "dpkg -x myapp.deb" to unpack my debian, it has all the correct config files listed (in /etc/myapp/conf1.conf, conf2.conf, etc.). however, when i actually do 'dpkg -i myapp.deb' to install it, it puts nothing in /etc/myapp. i assume this is some ubuntu config file overwrite protection mechanism - can anybody advise?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, but you can save files to tht usb??
[10:34] <OnceMe> I cantr
[10:35] <OnceMe> Ive made it from iso with startup disk creator
[10:36] <sevag> running dpkg with --force-confmiss --force-confnew did the trick
[10:37] <cfhowlett> OnceMe,  and you're now booted from that USB??
[10:37] <OnceMe> yes
[10:38] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, not sure what's happening, but check you target path:  filesystem > media > cdrom
[10:39] <alian> Hello!
[10:41] <OnceMe> also my mounted unecrypted /tmp/ecrypfs is also read-only system
[10:41] <OnceMe> is there a way to make it rw?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> encrypted!  yeah, that adds another level of complexty.
[10:41] <OnceMe> yeah my system is totally screwed
[10:42] <OnceMe> but at least I got in my files
[10:42] <OnceMe> :)
[10:42] <OnceMe> I could cp * outside of encrypted dir
[10:44] <ducasse> OnceMe: can't you just remount it read-write? 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever'
[10:46] <OnceMe> maybe but nvm I am going to c/p and buy external disk so I can backup everything
[10:47] <OnceMe> better to play safe
[10:47] <OnceMe> should I buy SSD or regular SATA disk?
[10:47] <bekks> OnceMe: Doesnt matter, for backups-
[10:47] <ducasse> OnceMe: for backup, just get a spinning disk
[10:47] <OnceMe> ok thanks
[10:47] <OerHeks> You can encrypt both, OnceMe
[10:48] <OnceMe> btw once Im done with backups, how can I ensure that data on my backup disk cannot be retrieved? After I reformatted it
[10:48] <bekks> OnceMe: Why do you take a backup if you dont want it to be retrieved?
[10:49] <BlackDalek> what alternative GUI mixers are available? I need one which will let me choose the default audio output device.
[10:49] <TJ-> OnceMe: Impressive, didn't think last night you'd really still be here 12 hours later!!
[10:49] <Ian352> join #ubuntu_fr
[10:49] <OnceMe> bekks:once I resync it
[10:49] <OnceMe> I want to destroy it
[10:50] <OnceMe> TJ-:I wasnt
[10:50] <OnceMe> I slept for 10 hours str8 and while I was sleeping I got the idea how could I retrieve passphrase and encrypted files :)
[10:50] <bekks> OnceMe: Then you dont have backups again. Thats nonsense :)
[10:50] <OnceMe> well that and my friend helped me a bit :)
[10:50] <TJ-> OnceMe: as to making an ecryptfs mount writeable; yes, just use "mount -o remount,rw /path/to/mountpoint"
[10:51] <OnceMe> after I resync fiels I want to purge backup disk
[10:52] <bekks> OnceMe: Better use the disk for further backups.
[10:52] <OnceMe> what if it gets stolen?
[10:52] <bekks> OnceMe: Encrypt it.
[10:52] <OnceMe> oh no
[10:52] <OnceMe> not that hell again
[10:53] <bekks> Then dont encrypt it and place it somewhere where it doesnt get stolen.
[10:53] <bekks> OnceMe: Living with backups is just too risky as you've seen.
[10:54] <OnceMe> heh :D
[10:54] <OnceMe> what HDD is the best?
[10:54] <bekks> The one you like most.
[10:54] <OnceMe> SATA3 7200 is what I have currently
[10:55] <linocisco> what can be used as SMS aggregator ?
[10:55] <bekks> linocisco: What is a "SMS aggregator"?
[10:56] <adnauseam> salut comrades. im trying to edit an nginx direcry, located at default (usr/share/nginx/html) - user/group were root:root, but i've changed it to www-data:root. my own user is part of the www-data group - am i always required to sudo everything i do in that directory? how cani make it that i don't need to always sudo ?
[10:57] <OerHeks> !info alamin
[10:57] <Mion> adnauseam: don't do that, it makes no sense to do it
[10:57] <Mion> adnauseam: what are you *actually* trying to do?
[10:57] <hateball> adnauseam: also, it's user:group
[10:58] <adnauseam> i am trying to setup a webserver to work in
[10:58] <Mion> adnauseam: and why are you messing around in /usr/share?
[10:58] <adnauseam> i installed nginx, now trying to work in its directory.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !server | adnauseam
[10:58] <Mion> and that doesn't explain what you are *actually* trying to do
[10:59] <adnauseam> nginx has its default in /usr/share
[10:59] <Mion> adnauseam: are you just trying to set the dir it hosts content from?
[10:59] <adnauseam> yes
[10:59] <Mion> adnauseam: use /src
[10:59] <adnauseam> and work in - dev
[10:59] <Mion> /srv*
[10:59] <Mion> it is what it was created for
[10:59] <adnauseam> roger, change nginx root to /srv
[10:59] <Mion> and use acl
[10:59] <adnauseam> will man acl
[10:59] <BlackDalek> how do I make this USB audio device work? it does not show up in the sound settings. It is Device 019: ID 0d8c:0006 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Storm HP-USB500 5.1 Headset
[10:59] <Mion> I suggest /srv/http/<site>
[11:00] <Mion> BlackDalek: most just work ™
[11:00] <Mion> since most talk standard protocols
[11:00] <adnauseam> the reason i'm always using /usr/share is because i couldn't change it in nginx's own configs. perhaps the permissions were off but it wouldn't read my index.html
[11:00] <Mion> BlackDalek: aplay -l
[11:01] <BlackDalek> Mion, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12884486/
[11:02] <Mion> adnauseam: you can change it
[11:02] <Mion> adnauseam: and /usr/share is *never* the correct place to host from
[11:02] <Mion> the ubuntu docs even tells you to use /srv in their example config
[11:02] <Mion> though the docs are outdated
[11:02] <adnauseam> by the way - /srv/ is root:root itself.
[11:02] <Mion> you should use a subdir as I said
[11:02] <Mion> preferably one per site
[11:02] <BlackDalek> Mion aplay lists the device, but I still can't choose it from the sound settigs gui
[11:02] <adnauseam> outdated shouldn't be a problem if it's enough ot get me going - as to root:root, is it ok to chown to my own user ?
[11:03] <adnauseam> or stick to www-data
[11:03] <Mion> BlackDalek: check the pulse mixer
[11:03] <Mion> pavucontrol
[11:04] <Mion> adnauseam: don't change the permission on /srv itself
[11:04] <Mion> create /srv/http/somesite and set the permission on that so that your user can read/write to it
[11:04] <adnauseam> roger
[11:04] <BlackDalek> Mion, what pulse mixer?
[11:04] <Mion> and ofcourse so that the user you run nginx as also can
[11:04] <Mion> BlackDalek: 13:03:38       Mion ╡ pavucontrol
[11:04] <Mion> BlackDalek: or pacmd/ponymix/whatever
[11:05] <Mion> adnauseam: I suggest using acl for it, it makes life easier
[11:06] <adnauseam> i will look into acl - never used it before
[11:07] <adnauseam> btw, thank <3
[11:10] <adnauseam> another issue, i've set /boot to 100mb, and a system update complained that there isn't space. i can't resize /boot. what's the best way to go about this ?
[11:11] <BlackDalek> Mion.. it shows up in pavucontrol but I see no way to choose it as the output device. Any clues?
[11:11] <Ben64> thats really small for /boot
[11:12] <bekks> adnauseam: use a bigger /boot. Why cant you resize your partitions?
[11:12] <BlackDalek> Mion, as far as I can tell all pavucontrol does is show me devices available and lets me move level sliders.. but beyond that it seems to be functionally useless.
[11:13] <Mion> BlackDalek: it is far from useless
[11:13] <Mion> BlackDalek: if you can see your device in there, then you can route to it
[11:13] <adnauseam> bekks: they're in serial progression, after boot comes / @ 100gb, and the rest is @ /home.  /boot is sitting at the start
[11:13] <BlackDalek> Mion, that sounds promising... how do I route to my device?
[11:13] <bekks> adnauseam: And why cant you resize them?
[11:14] <Mion> BlackDalek: while you are playing somethign with sound, go to the playback tab and just select the device you want for the stream you want
[11:14] <Mion> or set the default playback device in the output device tab
[11:14] <adnauseam> i cant resize /boot in particular because it's sitting at in the beginning. im considering taking a cunk from the end of /home and renaming it to /boot. can i copy /boot to that partition and hve it work or would htat shoot up my boot loader ?
[11:15] <bekks> adnauseam: Of course you can resize your partitions.
[11:15] <adnauseam> gparted ins't the tool for that then - how would you go about it ?
[11:15] <bekks> adnauseam: Resize all partitoins so you get free space after /boot.
[11:15] <bekks> gparted is the tool for it.
[11:15] <adnauseam> hmm, ill take a second look
[11:15] <hateball> adnauseam: you need to liveboot, you cant resize mounted partitions
[11:16] <adnauseam> oh thank you hateball, now i understand why gparted wont let it me do it
[11:17] <adnauseam> an issue for another day then - the system is functional for now
[11:18] <BlackDalek> Mion, ok... figured out how to select the device in pavucontrol while sound is playiing... the level indicator is displaying activity, but no sound coming out of speakers.
[11:18] <Mion> BlackDalek: check the output mode
[11:18] <Mion> and that the headphones are actually working :)
[11:19] <Mion> with some surround headsets you have to change the mode in the configuration tab for it
[11:19] <Mion> depending on the audio source
[11:22] <BlackDalek> Mion there are 3 options in the configuration tab for the device or "off". None of these option produce any sound
[11:23] <Mion> check that it is not muted in the output devices tab
[11:23] <Mion> you will get a moving bar in the playback tab even if it is muted in output devices
[11:24] <BlackDalek> Mion, checked... it is not muted.
[11:26] <OnceMe> should I install linux or windows 8 first?
[11:27] <OnceMe> will win 8 screw my grub..?
[11:27] <EriC^^> OnceMe: win8 then linux
[11:27] <bekks> !dualboot | OnceMe
[11:28] <OnceMe> ok good
[11:28] <OnceMe> ill come back for more instructions, need to buy hdd now :D
[11:28] <OnceMe> btw 14.04 is available to auto detect my drivers? I dont need that fglrx anymore fo rmy amd?
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> OnceMe: its reccomended to install ubuntu with cable + updates enabled
[11:31] <OnceMe> what with cable means?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> OnceMe: cable internet or wifi
[11:31] <OnceMe> ok i have dat
[11:32] <Mion> OnceMe: if you want usable 3d performance out of anything modern then you need fgrlx
[11:32] <Mion> OnceMe: uefi capable system btw?
[11:34] <BlackDalek> Mion, have we reached another dead end? This device last worked back in ubuntu 9.04 and has not worked in any ubuntu OS since. Google search reveals no solution but seems to confirm it is a known bug which apparently has been ignored, probably due to lack of interest.
[11:35] <BlackDalek> Mion, looks like no one wants to fix the issue, so it gets ignored with each new release. :(
[11:35] <Mion> BlackDalek: sure it is not a hardware issue?
[11:35] <Mion> test it on another machine
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you can always try asking in ##linux too if someone had same issue on your device
[11:38] <OnceMe> Mion:hey well
[11:38] <OnceMe> I cant see any graphics when login to ubuntu
[11:39] <OnceMe> I mean internal gpu works, but my amd radeon doesnt, without driver
[11:39] <OnceMe> how to check if is uefi ?
[11:39] <TJ-> BlackDalek: you could try using the ALSA "speaker-test"
[11:39] <OnceMe> I GPT'd it yesterday
[11:39] <OnceMe> but not sure what is the best one, gpt mbr uefi efi
[11:39] <OnceMe> tbh I dont know the difference between those
[11:39] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[11:39] <OnceMe> EriC^^:on live session?
[11:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:40] <EriC^^> it'll tell you if you're booted in uefi mode
[11:40] <OnceMe> I have efivars systab and vars
[11:40] <Mion> OnceMe: if you use uefi then it doesn't matter which os you install first
[11:40] <BlackDalek> Mion, it is a hardware issue in that the USB hardware does not work with this OS. All my systems run Ubuntu 15.04 now. A laptop, a PC, an intel Mac. All same result with this device.
[11:40] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so you're booted in uefi mode
[11:40] <Mion> if you use old school bios or horriblem CMS then it does, because windows will nuke any existing bootloader in that case
[11:41] <EriC^^> Mion: actually it does, windows will still change the boot order, so he'll need to use a live usb to change that
[11:41] <EriC^^> ( unless he has a uefi menu that he can use to boot ubuntu then grub-install )
[11:41] <Mion> EriC^^: he can just mash f8 or whatever during boot
[11:42] <Mion> all sane hardware have a boot selector menu
[11:42] <OnceMe> EriC^^:I have weird bios though
[11:42] <OnceMe> all graphical, never seen that befroe
[11:42] <Mion> or he can change the order from windows
[11:42] <OnceMe> and I have 3 disks from some reason, and I should have one
[11:42] <Mion> windows has a tool for poking at the uefi boot table
[11:42] <OnceMe> I could take a pic later on when I backup stuff
[11:43] <EriC^^> OnceMe: nothing is installed yet?
[11:43] <OnceMe> it is
[11:43] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:43] <OnceMe> no I have bunch of partitions
[11:43] <EriC^^> it'll show you the disks and partitions and pastebin them, paste the link here
[11:43] <OnceMe> I dont even know what is what for
[11:43] <OnceMe> is that -l
[11:43] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:44] <BlackDalek> what is speaker-test expecting after the -D option? a device ID number?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: might be interesting to dmesg and syslog in realtime while plugin your usb
[11:44] <OnceMe> b0nf
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[11:44] <OnceMe> EriC^^:termbin.com/b0nf
[11:45] <EriC^^> OnceMe: oh, wow
[11:46] <EriC^^> OnceMe: are you booted in the ubuntu session right now or live usb?
[11:46] <OnceMe> I was retarded and had separate boot home efi swap
[11:46] <OnceMe> everything separated
[11:46] <OnceMe> EriC^^:yes
[11:46] <EriC^^> ubuntu or live usb?
[11:46] <bekks> OnceMe: Thats not retarded, but required.
[11:46] <OnceMe> live usb
[11:46] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so right now windows just boots directly?
[11:46] <OnceMe> no
[11:46] <OnceMe> right now I cant access neithr ubuntu nor windows
[11:46] <OnceMe> something is badly broken
[11:47] <OnceMe> boot repair didnt helped
[11:47] <OnceMe> Im thinking of destroying all partitions
[11:47] <OnceMe> and starting all over
[11:47] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:47] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr first though
[11:48] <absklb> hi
[11:48] <absklb> how to install latest npm in 14.04
[11:48] <absklb> one in repo is 1.3. i want 2.5
[11:48] <OnceMe> EriC^^:can that way
[11:48] <OnceMe> till I buy hdd and backup evertyhing
[11:48] <OnceMe> then I can play whatever you want :D
[11:49] <EriC^^> OnceMe: that just shows the efi boot manager
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !newest | absklb
[11:50] <absklb> cfhowlett: tell that to Canvas LMS team. not to me.
[11:50] <absklb> thanks.
[11:50] <EriC^^> OnceMe: it installs it to the live session not the actual pc btw
[11:51] <OerHeks> absklb, where do you find npm 2.5? https://nodejs.org/download/release/npm/
[11:55] <OnceMe> EriC^^:termbin.com/uw21
[11:56] <hamza> quick question, do you find the Ubuntu LTS kernel to be incompatable with the mumble package? i do, mumble does not work for the latest LTS kernel
[11:56] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, Is there anything significant in here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12885176/
[11:56] <bekks> hamza: So which mumble package version and which kernel version do you use?
[11:56] <EriC^^> OnceMe: looks like it's booting the ubuntu efi file first
[11:56] <EriC^^> OnceMe: what happens when you start the pc right now?
[11:57] <OnceMe> i get usb live session ubuntu
[11:57] <hamza> bekks: kernel version is LTS "3.13.0-66-generic", mumble's version is provided from the repository "mumble	1.2.4-0.2ubuntu1.1"
[11:58] <bekks> hamza: Sounds like you want to install the latest hardware enablement stack first, to get a somehow more recent kernel. :)
[11:58] <EriC^^> OnceMe: did you try booting without the usb plugged in?
[11:58] <OnceMe> yes
[11:58] <OnceMe> I get grub
[11:58] <OnceMe> but as you can see I have "3" disks in bios
[11:58] <OnceMe> when in fact I have one physical
[11:58] <OnceMe> whats happening?
[11:58] <absklb> OerHeks: Canvas LMS
[11:58] <hamza> bekks: good one, i thought LTS stands for long term support
[11:59] <EriC^^> OnceMe: what do you mean by grub? a grub menu?
[11:59] <hamza> so i would use that
[11:59] <bekks> hamza: Do you know what the HWE does and what it is for? Sounds like "no".
[11:59] <absklb> OerHeks: while installing npm its giving me error that i have 1.3 but it needs 2.5
[11:59] <OerHeks> absklb, i think you need to build it yourself,  else reask in #ubuntu-server
[11:59] <absklb> ok
[11:59] <hamza> bekks: no
[12:00] <bekks> hamza: Then please refrain from mocking about it and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack first.
[12:00] <OnceMe> EriC^^:yes
[12:00] <EriC^^> OnceMe: so ubuntu boots fine and so does windows?
[12:00] <EriC^^> i thought you said neither work
[12:00] <OnceMe> nope
[12:00] <OnceMe> neither boots fine
[12:01] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so what happens when you choose ubuntu
[12:01] <EriC^^> OnceMe: those aren't disks in the bios, those are just efi files on the same disk and usb
[12:01] <OnceMe> I want to purge efi
[12:01] <OnceMe> and just uefi
[12:01] <OnceMe> how to accomplish that?
[12:01] <bekks> OnceMe: efi is uefi.
[12:02] <OnceMe> when I select ubuntu nothing happens, I get initrframs
[12:02] <OnceMe> ok and what is uefi?
[12:02] <bekks> !uefi | OnceMe
[12:02] <EriC^^> OnceMe: did you install this on another pc and then plug the hdd here?
[12:02] <OnceMe> no
[12:02] <OnceMe> I did all on my machine
[12:02] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so what happens when you boot windows?
[12:04] <OnceMe> thats even worse
[12:04] <OnceMe> I get unknown filetype system
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: is this usb 2.0 port?
[12:05] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I guess so. how can I tell?
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: this doesnt look to good: kernel: [36792.250196] usb 1-1.2: cannot submit urb 0, error -28: not enough bandwidth
[12:06] <OnceMe> EriC^^:is current setup good for new fresh win 8 and ubuntu install?
[12:06] <OnceMe> also how can I remove ubuntu disk/uefi in bios?
[12:06] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, what does that even mean?
[12:07] <EriC^^> OnceMe: yeah, reinstall windows then ubuntu
[12:07] <EriC^^> OnceMe: sudo efibootmgr -b -B 0000
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: not sure but smells like your device cant get enough bandwith to work properly
[12:07] <EriC^^> OnceMe: actually, sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0000
[12:08] <hamza> thanks bekks , i will upgrade my kernel
[12:09] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I can't smell anything... but an LED on the device flashes when an app is playing sound.
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: but your device doesnt work properly?
[12:10] <TJ-> BlackDalek: "URB" is a USB request block. If the USB controller/port doesn't have enough bandwidth the kernel will report "cannot submit urb" with error -28. Try a different USB port, which may be on an alternative controller
[12:10] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, correct. no sound output.
[12:11] <linelevel> Hi... so I accidentally deleted a bunch of stuff from my user's home directory on my server... but not ~/.ssh (that's still intact, including `authorized_keys`). However, now when I try to SSH into the server, I get "Permission denied (publickey)." -- How should I go about troubleshooting this to figure out why I cannot connect?
[12:12] <linelevel> Note that I can still get filesystem access by stopping the VM and mounting the root volume on a different VM.
[12:12] <BlackDalek> TJ-, I only have 3 USB ports to choose from.. cannot get a peep out of the device on any of them.
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> linelevel: maybe the #openssh guys can troubleshoot this?
[12:12] <linelevel> lotuspsychje: Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: are you connecting through an usb hub?
[12:13] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, no - I do not have a hub. I only have the ports on this laptop (or ports on the other computers).
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: might be worth trying on an usb 3.0 with ubuntu somewhere perhaps
[12:15] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, speaker of usb 2.0 and 3.0... how do I determine which of these my USB ports are?
[12:15] <BlackDalek> speaking*
[12:16] <auronandace> usb3 is blue
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: lookup your pc sheet specs
[12:17] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, so it is impossible to tell USB version through some kind of handy terminal command?
[12:17] <BlackDalek> :(
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: lusb
[12:18] <OnceMe> EriC^^:will u be here in a 2 hours?
[12:18] <OnceMe> I really need to go out and buy hdd now for a backup
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: lsusb sorry
[12:19] <absklb> how can i add new user from recovery root prompt? it gives cannot lock /etc/group code 10 exiting
[12:19] <EriC^^> OnceMe: maybe, yeah
[12:19] <EriC^^> absklb: did you remount rw first?
[12:20] <absklb> EriC^^: no. what to remount?
[12:20] <EriC^^> absklb: mount -o remount,rw /
[12:21] <absklb> EriC^^: that works. thankn. why i have to do that btw?
[12:21] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12885281/
[12:21] <EriC^^> absklb: cause it's mounted read only at first
[12:21] <absklb> ok
[12:21] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I unplugged all USB devices before the lsusb
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: 2.0 root hub
[12:22] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, yep
[12:22] <psychic_> hey guys
[12:23] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, so are you saying ubuntu might think this device requires USB 3.0 to work, despite it working (according to google) on windows PCs and Ubuntu 9.04 or under?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:24] <shelly_> hello
[12:24] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, as far as I can tell from my research, support for this device broke at 9.10
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: i didnt conclude that no, i just looked at your logs and suggest you could try another usb port that might not have that bandwith warning
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: have you tested your device on LTS?
[12:26] <alian> hello!play GTA5?
[12:26] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok. Thanks for elaborating.
[12:27] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, no I haven't.
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: i strongly suggest you try
[12:29] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, is 14.04 LTS the currently available LTS? no 15.04 LTS?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !trusty | BlackDalek
[12:30] <auronandace> BlackDalek: LTS is every 2 years, 14.04 is the current one
[12:31] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok.. well in that case I DID try that release, and the sound device had same issue back then as I recall.
[12:31] <thecyclone> auronandace: how long does ubuntu support its LTS versions?
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: back 'then' might be long time ago and perhaps not fully updated to 14.04.3
[12:31] <auronandace> thecyclone: 5 years
[12:32] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ah. I see. I will procure a live CD of 14.04.3 and boot from that.
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: great and check your logs from there, anything related to your usb device
[12:34] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I will have to do that another day. It's late here and I've wasted enough hours on this already.
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: wasted or learned
[12:35] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, learned one or two things... don't feel like I've made much progress though :/
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: persistent investigation might lead you to solve
[12:37] <linocisco> useless ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 3443
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: try a real question mate
[12:37] <linocisco> whenever I was typing the cursor is moving random at any destination and typed texts are wrong or gone
[12:39] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i dont mean it is moving every second. It moves at any time at any destination like I am typing in IRC chat texbox -
[12:39] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, it happens in any text box
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: ubuntu version?
[12:40] <linocisco> or anywhere I am typing. I didn't touch touchpad I swear.
[12:40] <linocisco> the cursor is still with me but the problem is pointer which goes anywhere randomly
[12:40] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, 15.04
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: tested this on LTS?
[12:42] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I was with 14.04 LTS and some drivers are  not ok with my laptop model. so upgraded to 15.04 and most are fine but the only major problems I am with is pointer problem and the other is nm-applet crash problem at startup
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: wich drivers were bad on trusty?
[12:43] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, wifi , gui, i guess
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: but you didnt have that pointer problem?
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: what wifi chipset is that?
[12:44] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, GUI graphic is the worst problem so I can't check anything else
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: i would go back to lts, but your choice you can add bugs to 15.04 or try 15.10 in 2 days
[12:45] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, the problem i can't install and remove as I like is that I have very limited internet and expensive to use. so I can't change frequently or download much frequently
[12:45] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i dont know where to check like sys log
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: or browse the GUI logviewer icon
[12:46] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, if i pastebin here, can you check?
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: ill be bbl soon, but sure
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: others might be able to look also
[12:47] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, ok thanks
[12:47] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, also some files in /var/crash
[12:47] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, what should I paste?
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: lets start with syslog
[12:51] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12885423/
[12:52] <Gamoder_> Hi, does anybody know whether it is possible to run ubuntu from an external hard drive connected to a nvidia shield TV?
[12:52] <Gamoder_> (or from an SD-card?)
[12:53] <Babier> hola
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored
[12:54] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I dont understand well
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: acpi and memory issues so far
[12:55] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, so how can I fix?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: and nouveau warnings
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> have to go now mate
[12:55] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, umm ok. thanks anyway
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: re-ask your issue, ubuntu version and paste here in chat
[12:56] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, ok
[12:57] <linocisco> whenever I was typing the cursor is moving random at any destination and typed texts are wrong or gone, version 15.04 x86
[12:57] <JesseH> I managed to get it so that I could start lightdm but it's stuck in 640x480. gdm just shows a black screen. Going to try some older nvidia drivers for this card
[12:58] <bekks> linocisco: Fingers to close at the mouse stick/touchpad ?
[13:16] <thresh> is there a GM for 15.10 iso somewhere?  will be out of town tomorrow.. :)
[13:18] <BluesKaj> thresh, GM iso ?
[13:18] <Pinkamena_D> I notice when I add an entry to /etc/hosts, the hostname will autocomplete for me in BASH. Can I add just the name but without the ip address (look up from dns) so I can get the completeion?
[13:18] <thresh> BluesKaj: gold master, aka release .iso
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> thresh  what's a gold master .iso?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> thresh, there are daily images available http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[13:20] <Pici> thresh: it won't be done until tomorrow.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yeah < i've never hear of a gold master whatever that's supposed to be
[13:20] <thresh> mmkay thanks
[13:21] <ducasse> Pinkamena_D: no, you will need to add an ip address
[13:24] <Pinkamena_D> IS there any other place I can add the hostnames for autocomplete?
[13:24] <hans_> good afernoon
[13:24] <hans_> i have a server question
[13:25] <hans_> i want to set my ipadress on static but  how must i save a file in a server
[13:26] <ducasse> Pinkamena_D: not that I know. unless you edit the bash_completion scripts to look up from a table in addition to /etc/hosts. you could always google to see if someone has done that already.
[13:27] <gigajohn5t> hi
[13:28] <crystalgrid> hello
[13:30] <Kartagis> a few months ago, I was helped about screen tear and now I've got http://termbin.com/v72v in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf. however, it is still happening. what do I do?
[13:31] <linocisco> bekks, no .  I dont touch. I care about it
[13:32] <Pinkamena_D> hans_, $ sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces Change eth0 entry to something like: https://bpaste.net/show/972504aa7165
[13:33] <Pinkamena_D> Make sure you leave a terminal logged in or have a physical keyboard and monitor ready incase something messes up
[13:34] <Pinkamena_D> Then after you edit the file and save $ sudo service networking restart
[13:37] <ismail72> salut
[13:40] <OnceMe> ok, got a new backup disk Transcend with 1TB of free space
[13:41] <hans_> thx
[13:42] <hans_> how can i automount my nas disk to the server
[13:43] <hateball> !fstab | hans_
[13:44] <hans_> i no that gygs but normal i use gedit/ect/fstab but that wont work in a server
[13:45] <yacc> What's the recommended way to get rid of an umount that is going crazy (>98% CPU usage as top reports it)?
[13:45] <hateball> hans_: So use nano or another editor of your choice
[13:45] <yacc> (the USB drive was shutdown for some tim)
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> hans_  sudo -e /etc/fstab
[13:46] <hans_> thx monky the -e dus the trik
[13:46] <hans_> its my first sever im a noob
[13:50] <hans_> i f.ck it up
[13:51] <hans_> i can start over again
[13:51] <bekks> hans_: Why?
[13:51] <FierceDeityLink> i want to use my own domain and nameserver values and not from dhcp. how do i do that?
[13:51] <hans_> i have change the fstab
[13:52] <bekks> hans_: So what did you change, exactly?
[13:53] <hans_> i put the nas drives ip in it
[13:53] <hans_> the same way i do whit my desktop
[13:53] <bekks> hans_: Thats a description of your intention, but not a description of what you actually did.
[13:54] <bekks> hans_: Pastebin your /etc/fstab and provide the URL for your pastebin here.
[13:54] <hans_> ok
[13:54] <hans_> but i cant start him now
[13:54] <bekks> Why not?
[13:55] <hans_> connect to host  port 22: Connection refused
[13:55] <hans_> i must learn it the hard way i think
[13:55] <hans_> ihihihihi
[13:55] <bekks> hans_: So go to the server, and look whats going on.
[13:56] <hans_> its a nuc
[13:56] <bekks> And?
[13:57] <hans_> nothing i have put the powercabel out
[13:57] <hans_> and get the same answer
[13:57] <trumpler> can I ask linux mint question here ?
[13:57] <bekks> hans_: Which doesnt solve problems.
[13:58] <bekks> !mint | trumpler
[13:58] <hans_> nop
[13:58] <hans_> it think i must install it over again
[13:58] <trumpler> thanks everyone !
[13:58] <hans_> i will send a apstbin from what i dit
[13:58] <bekks> hans_: You dont. You just have to connect a monitor and a keyboard and look whats going on...
[13:59] <bekks> hans_: you cant pastebin what you did, since it is powered off currently.
[13:59] <hans_> i will take a look
[14:07] <hans_> i think a have solf it
[14:07] <hans_> must press S after i modifi the fstab
[14:16] <hans_> thx for the help till now boys and girls
[14:16] <testubuntu> I need some help
[14:17] <testubuntu> I have hdparm my hss  without NULL
[14:17] <testubuntu> hdd*
[14:17] <testubuntu> and  I lost the password
[14:17] <testubuntu> my hdd is locked
[14:18] <OnceMe> what is the best way to backup hole /home/ dir to external disk?
[14:18] <OnceMe> I used cp but its too slow, maybe rsync>
[14:18] <Ben64> rsync is good
[14:18] <Ben64> external drives are almost always slow though
[14:18] <tmkt> why is utopic missing from http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[14:18] <jpds> OnceMe: rsync, rdiff-backup
[14:18] <OnceMe> Will rsync -av /home /media/Transcend/backup/ work?
[14:18] <tmkt> and archive.ubuntu.com ?
[14:18] <Ben64> tmkt: its EOL, dead, kaput, time to upgrade
[14:19] <tmkt> can't do updates or do-release-upgrade
[14:19] <tmkt> can't....since i'm getting 404s when i do-release-upgrade
[14:19] <jpds> tmkt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases - EOL months ago
[14:19] <tmkt> so i manually modified my apt files
[14:20] <tmkt> thats why i'm in here..because i can't update my box
[14:20] <jpds> tmkt: You should still be able to upgrade from it to 15.04
[14:20] <tmkt> unless i manually modify sources.list
[14:20] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | tmkt
[14:20] <tmkt> ubottu: do-release-upgrade is broken because of this
[14:20] <Ben64> read the link.
[14:21] <tmkt> yeah..thats what i ended up doing
[14:21] <Ben64> then whats the problem
[14:21] <tmkt> why break do-release-upgrade
[14:21] <Ben64> because it went EOL in July
[14:22] <tmkt> and make it more complicated then it should be for people
[14:22] <tmkt> yeah..but its not even a year old
[14:22] <Ben64> yep, non LTS releases are supported for 9 months
[14:23] <tmkt> Ok..i assumed it was 12
[14:23] <zetheroo> I have a bash script in my home directory which I would like to be executed on login - can I do this through Startup Applications?
[14:23] <tmkt> thanks
[14:23] <EriC^^> zetheroo: yeah
[14:24] <zetheroo>  EriC^^:  I am just not sure of the command - should it be "sh /path/to/file" or "./path/to/file" ... or something else?
[14:24] <fabio> Hello everyone! Im connected trough ssh to an ubuntu machine. How do i start google chrome on their desktop enviroment?
[14:24] <tmkt> why is lucid available on those dists? its EOL also
[14:24] <EriC^^> zetheroo: depends on the script, if it has a shebang just use /absolute/path/to/script
[14:24] <Ben64> tmkt: it isn't EOL for servers until 2017
[14:24] <Guest92276> !
[14:25] <tmkt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases Server April 30th, 2015
[14:25] <Ben64> wait
[14:25] <mcphail> zetheroo: not the second one
[14:25] <Ben64> yeah i was thinking precise
[14:25] <EriC^^> zetheroo: if it doesn't have a shebang use bash or sh /path/to/script depending on what it's written for
[14:25] <Guest92276> hello all , i want to find metasploit folder path , please help me
[14:25] <misaka00251> Well, how to install ubuntu into USB disk?
[14:25] <Ben64> tmkt: to give a bit of extra time to upgrade normally, just like 14.10
[14:25] <Guest92276> hello all , i want to find metasploit folder path , please help me
[14:25] <Guest92276> hello all , i want to find metasploit folder path , please help me
[14:25] <reisio> Guest92276: hi, hi, hi
[14:25] <Ben64> Guest92276: exactly the way to not get help
[14:25] <mcphail> Guest92276: stop that please
[14:25] <reisio> Guest92276: dpkg -L metasploit
[14:26] <tmkt> yeah...should have been the same for utopic..:)
[14:26] <tmkt> no matter
[14:26] <tmkt> its upgrading now
[14:26] <Ben64> tmkt: it was! support ended July, the servers went off this month
[14:26] <tmkt> just a better error message from do-release-upgrade would probably be better
[14:26] <zetheroo>  EriC^^: this is the script .. it's to keep gvfs mounts alive http://paste.ubuntu.com/12885943/
[14:26] <tmkt> ah just this month
[14:27] <Ben64> tmkt: i agree though, should have a message explaining it
[14:27] <tmkt> never spend much time on that box its my htpc, but with 15.2 of kodi out i was wondering why no upgrades were happening
[14:27] <reisio> oh yeah 15.2?
[14:27] <reisio> I wonder what it's got
[14:29] <EriC^^> zetheroo: ok, use /path/to/script
[14:29] <zetheroo> EriC^^: ok thanks!
[14:31] <EriC^^> zetheroo: no problem
[14:39] <thatguy> how are these tools called where you just press a button and then start typing and search through your apps/documents etc (like gnome3 has standard implemented)
[14:40] <thatguy> and is there something like that for lxde?
[14:42] <hhhh> sudo apt-get install i3-wm will install i3, right?
[14:42] <Pici> hhhh: yes.
[14:42] <somsip> !info i3=wm | hhhh
[14:42] <somsip> !info i3-wm | hhhh
[14:42] <somsip> hhhh: sure looks like it
[14:42] <hhhh> Is it possible to install i3-gaps in a simillar way?  I've had a tonne of pain installing the gaps.
[14:42] <somsip> !find i3 | hhhh
[14:44] <hhhh> Last time I installed i3, my xorg wasn't automatically executed - how can I make this happen?
[14:44] <somsip> hhhh: xorg.conf you mean? That's sourced by X, not the WM
[14:45] <hhhh> Yeah, that's the one.  But for everyone else (online) it seems to be that xorg auto execs without problem
[14:45] <hhhh> It works on unity, but when switching to i3 I have to go the X11 folder and exec the thing manually myself
[14:46] <somsip> hhhh: on a standard install, there is no xorg.conf. But if you have one, not sure why the problem you describe with unity/i3 woudl occur
[14:46] <hhhh> I definitely have an xorg.conf
[14:46] <hhhh> That aside, does anyone know how to install i3gaps?
[14:48] <mustmodify> having a brain fart. I used this tool once... an apache foundation tool I think... two letters, one may have been a q... to load test websites. You could give it parameters like how many requests at a time, how many total requests, and it would come back with some numbers like 5th percentile, 10th percentile, blah, average, stdev response times.
[14:48] <mustmodify> anyone know the name of that tool?
[14:48] <somsip> !info ab | mustmodify
[14:48] <mustmodify> #fail
[14:48] <somsip> mustmodify: ab - apache bench. Part of apache tools I think
[14:48] <mustmodify> ok thanks
[14:48] <mustmodify> somsip: sounds kind of familiar, thanks.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> hhhh, i3gaps?, i3 is in the repos
[14:50] <hhhh> Is it not clear what I mean by i3gaps?
[14:50] <SchrodingersScat> !info apache2-utils | mustmodify
[14:58] <dave420> i have hexchat installed, but when i go to edit popup.conf it won't let me make changes to it and save it.  anyone have ideas? i checked permissions, everything looks normal.
[14:58] <Kartagis> a few months ago, I was helped about screen tear and now I've got http://termbin.com/v72v in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf. however, it is still happening. what do I do? UPDATE: looking in logs, I found out I need to disable compiz to prevent screen tearing. how do I do that?
[14:59] <hhhh> Yo, I'm trying to follow the install instructions here : https://github.com/ivyl/i3-config/blob/master/README.md
[15:00] <hhhh> I fail at the 2nd step, which reads git clone https://github.com/ivy1/i3-config.git .i3
[15:00] <roxlu> Hey! I'm trying to setup the following. I want to create a directory where all new files get the same group as the directory. I managed to get this working by setting the +s permission for the group. Though now I want that new files can also be delete by members of the group. I would think umask can used for this, but this doesn't seem to work.  I tried using "umask 0000" but event that didn't give the group the correct permissions.
[15:01] <somsip> hhhh: if there's a git repo, you should be contacting the owner for advice
[15:01] <reisio> roxlu: you could use ACLs
[15:02] <roxlu> Can't I do this with umask ?
[15:03] <Kartagis> hhhh: what is stopping you?
[15:05] <kora> how to install openjdk-7-jdk from command line ?
[15:07] <mcphail> roxlu: umask is tricky. There are at least 3 different implementations
[15:08] <mcphail> roxlu: including one hard-coded into nautilus which doesn't respect the others (when I last checked)
[15:11] <mcphail> roxlu: actually, by the look of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/242618 it may have been fixed, so ignore my spite towards nautilus
[15:12] <OnceMe> EriC^^:here?
[15:12] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:13] <OnceMe> ok good, Im stil backing up /home/ however Ill backup whole / syste,
[15:13] <OnceMe> except for /proc /dev and all that not needed stuff
[15:13] <EriC^^> ok
[15:13] <OnceMe> but my home is pretty big, 200GB+ so it might take a while
[15:14] <OnceMe> while I wait, have you seen my system bootmgr etc?
[15:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:14] <OnceMe> Is that all setted properly or I need to take attention on something while installing win8 and then ubuntu?
[15:14] <EriC^^> it's ok, just install win8, make sure it boots properly first
[15:14] <EriC^^> then install ubuntu
[15:15] <OnceMe> ok, and what about that uefi/efi thing?
[15:15] <OnceMe> is uefi started first?
[15:15] <OnceMe> and what about my gpu drivers?
[15:16] <EriC^^> it'll sort itself out, you can check drivers after you install
[15:16] <EriC^^> just make sure you boot win8 in uefi mode, and ubuntu too
[15:16] <OnceMe> ok so I should install ubuntu 14.04 trusty?
[15:16] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:16] <OnceMe> yeah that, how can I ensure that?
[15:17] <OnceMe> that its booted in uefi mode?
[15:17] <dupingping> hi, who is ubuntu member?
[15:17] <dupingping> i'm a new member.
[15:18] <EriC^^> OnceMe: in win8 you could check that its making an esp or efi partition in the partitioner
[15:18] <teward> !offtopic | dupingping
[15:18] <EriC^^> for ubuntu type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi to see if it's booted in uefi mode
[15:19] <OnceMe> EriC^^:how can I type that in live bootable usb?
[15:19] <OnceMe> also how can I destroy all partitions first
[15:19] <OnceMe> or win8 will do that for me?
[15:20] <OnceMe> alsod oes ubuntu 14.04 comes with latest nginx php5.6 and maria/mysql?
[15:20] <OnceMe> !ppa
[15:21] <Obelus> OnceMe: Windows 8 should let you choose to delete any existing partitions in the setup, IIRC. Haven't fresh installed 8 for a while.
[15:21] <EriC^^> OnceMe: you can do that in the win8 partitioner
[15:21] <OnceMe> ok goood
[15:21] <OnceMe> and then to make efi partitions only right?
[15:22] <OnceMe> not uefi?
[15:22] <EriC^^> OnceMe: win8 should create the esp or efi partition for you, and ubuntu should use the win8 one
[15:22] <EriC^^> efi is uefi, same thing
[15:22] <OnceMe> ok good
[15:22] <OnceMe> ubuntu will use free space partition
[15:22] <OnceMe> which is not partitioned I guess
[15:22] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:23] <OnceMe> so I dont partition it fully
[15:23] <OnceMe> I just make 1 ntfs and one will be auto system reserved
[15:23] <EriC^^> yeah it's probably efi partition, maybe system something, and ntfs one, and leave the rest for ubuntu
[15:23] <EriC^^> let it do it itself, and you can always shrink it later from win8
[15:24] <OnceMe> ok
[15:25] <OnceMe> let me find win 8 disc now :D
[15:25] <OnceMe> brb
[15:29] <mtottenh> has anyone here has experience using sgdisk? I'm trying to create a GPT partition table like so -n 1:0M:2M -n 2:2M:4096M but it errors with 'Could not create partition 2 from xx to xx"
[15:29] <davidmichaelkarr> What is the difference between what "update-manager" shows, and what "apt-get update" shows?
[15:31] <Kitt3n> I installed ubuntu on a computer with a Nvidia geforce 210, the liveCD works fine, but when I rebooted after installing it, it flickers and then the monitor turns off
[15:32] <TJ-> mtottenh: you want partition 2 to be 4094MiB long?
[15:33] <mtottenh> 4096Mib long yes.
[15:33] <mtottenh> Oh I see.
[15:33] <mtottenh> Theres an error with my math there.
[15:34] <TJ-> mtottenh: use +2048M for a relative-from-start value
[15:35] <TJ-> mtottenh: but I doubt that is the cause of your issue; more likely the #1 end and #2 start being the same number. I'm not sure if sgdisk is intelligent enough to adjust those absolute values to be +1 sector for the start of #2
[15:35] <mtottenh> I see.
[15:37] <TJ-> mtottenh: how about "-n 1:0M:2M -n 2+0:+4096M"
[15:37] <plugyn> hi
[15:37] <TJ-> mtottenh: oops, grr, typo. "-n 1:0M:2M -n 2:+0:+4096M"
[15:37] <plugyn> I'm using ufw, any idea why it's not allowing websites? I allowed port 80, but it's still denying any website i try to load.
[15:38] <aleim> hello there, just as I erased a partition on a drive, the following happened to a second external drive that was connected and shown in disk utility: its volumes disappeared and changed to "no media", but the disk is still listed among devices..and the partitions are still mounted as I see in file manager (even tested with gparted, they are there)..is this incident known to anyone?
[15:39] <TJ-> plugyn: what is blocked? input or output or both?
[15:40] <plugyn> should be nothing blocked
[15:40] <plugyn> sudo ufw status >>> ufw allow 22; ufw allow 80
[15:40] <TJ-> plugyn: the web-sites are using HTTP, not HTTPS (port 443) ?
[15:41] <plugyn> ah. that's probably it.
[15:41] <plugyn> let me try.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n,  at the blank screen drop to a VT/TTY by using ctl+alt+F1 -F6, login then, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade , then sudo apt install nvidia-340
[15:41] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, I want nouveau :)
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, I have the same video gpu ...why nouveau?
[15:42] <plugyn> that didn't work :(
[15:42] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, because I don't really need it, I only have it because the integrated GPU is fried
[15:43] <BluesKaj> you don't really need what?
[15:43] <Kitt3n> but okay, I'll try!
[15:43] <Kitt3n> the big clunky nvidia driver :D
[15:43] <mcphail> Kitt3n: you caould try forcing a resolution for nouveau
[15:43] <BluesKaj> it's not big and clunky. it's fast and stable
[15:44] <Kitt3n> erm...
[15:45] <Kitt3n> this is strange, switching to another tty showed the console login for a second, then I got the normal login screen o_O
[15:45] <Kitt3n> well okay
[15:45] <fennesz> hello everyone ! I am currently descibing a program tha copies files from a folder . It only copies the files with a specified prefix e.g. ABC2015.txt . I want to describe that the program shall have a configurable prefix for example one could define the program to copy files begining with BCD2014.txt. How can I describe this in proper English ?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> you have 6 available VTs aka ttys
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n,^
[15:46] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, I know! I am not a newbie, but I've never touched nvidia on linux :)
[15:46] <Kitt3n> but it switched from the console login automatically to a graphical one without the driver
[15:46] <Kitt3n> and it's glitchy
[15:47] <mcphail> Kitt3n: last time I used nouveau on a 210 it was horrid
[15:47] <Kitt3n> Ah.
[15:47] <Kitt3n> well, installing nvidia-340 then!
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, think a reboot would have been in order
[15:47] <mcphail> Kitt3n: but there have been a lot of improvements in the driver since then
[15:48] <Kitt3n> I'll reboot when it's installed, and hope it works
[15:48] <PanV> daftykins: After some careful reading about the link you sent me, I googled it a bit then I found a How To Geek article.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> the 340 was always a decent driver on my pcs, but I'm a KDE/plasma guy so your experience may be different:-)
[15:49] <PanV> "You should also back up your mount passphrase ahead of time" What does it mean? Check the article I read this http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[15:50] <PanV> Also, how to get into a nautilus window?
[15:51] <TJ-> PanV: with encrypted home, when first created the tools prompt to record the master passphrase BEFORE something goes wrong
[15:51] <PanV> What is the "master passphrase"? Is it the thing that you do... like passwd command?
[15:51] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, 4 yellow dots, is that normal?
[15:52] <mcphail> Kitt3n: you don't get a splash with the nvidia driver
[15:52] <HackerII> Kitt3n,  what card do you have
[15:52] <Kitt3n> A super old geforce 210 :D
[15:52] <BluesKaj> mcphail, yes you do get a quick spalsh
[15:53] <Kitt3n> because the sandy bridge i3's gpu is fried and doesn't work so. :D
[15:53] <HackerII> from experience, maybe the 173 driver would work with that old of a card Kitt3n
[15:53] <mcphail> BluesKaj: yes, but not the Ubuntu splash screen
[15:53] <Kitt3n> 340 works fine
[15:53] <TJ-> PanV: when using encryption a master key ( pass-phrase ) is used to actually encrypt the data. That key is protected by being 'wrapped' with further encryption using the user's password as the wrapper key. If the user forgets/changes their password the master key cannot be unwrapped
[15:53] <TheEagerPadawan> looking through manpages to learn some more flags of the common used commands, i stumbled upon cp -a and it isn't clear from the man pages what this does
[15:54] <HackerII> ok ki, i was understanding you didnt like it, cool beans then
[15:54] <PanV> TJ-: Is this password the password that Ubuntu makes me enter everytime I get/login to my account or the password I use to login? If I do the master passphrase wrong, will anything go wrong?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, what's the actual gpu series number
[15:55] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, no clue!
[15:55] <TJ-> PanV: user password > unwraps master pass-phrase > unlocks encryped content
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, lspci | grep VGA
[15:55] <Kitt3n> sure!
[15:56] <gerep> I'm creating a user via an application but I need this user to be a NOPASSWD, is there a way of doing that using 'useradd' ?
[15:56] <ic_> Hello everyone , may I ask assistance regarding reboot(2) ? I would like to have this call from <linux/reboot.h> "reboot(LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1, LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC2C, LINUX_REBOOT_CMD_RESTART2, "/sbin/poweroff");" but upon compiling a different syscall from <sys/reboot.h> get specified .
[15:57] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, GT218 GeForce 210
[15:57] <ic_> It still is reboot(2) , but with only one parameter .
[15:57] <Nyterax> um I'm trying to create a password protected 7z archive but the password field is disabled?
[15:57] <PanV> TJ-: Master Pass-Phrase is? I get a password field which I gotta enter, different from the Login one. Is this the "master-passphrase"?
[15:58] <compdoc> do you have permission to save the archive, wherever that location is?
[15:58] <PanV> TJ-: I remember user password. I am not sure about master one because I don't know what this is.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, this is what i get, NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3] (rev a2)
[15:58] <aleim> can anyone help please? strange things are happening with my external drives!
[15:59] <TJ-> PanV: I'm not sure what you're referring to. But if you've recently changed the user account password manually, the prompt is probably wanting the previous user account password
[15:59] <mwic> Anyone here pretty good with VSFTP? I got a server going but even though chroot_local_user=YES the user can still see directories outisde of her home ..
[15:59] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, sec, upgrading packages, will give you the whole string
[15:59] <PanV> TJ-: Wait a second
[15:59] <Bastichou> Hey there, I need to shrink my partition (using lvm2). Should I shrink my filesystem (ext4) before perform th lvreduce ??
[16:00] <Nyterax> compdoc, I can create a non-password protected archive there without problems
[16:00] <Nyterax> so.. I guess?
[16:00] <compdoc> guess so
[16:00] <Nyterax> oh I can add a password afterwards
[16:00] <TJ-> Bastichou: Yes, or see "man lvreduce" and its "--resizefs"
[16:00] <Nyterax> or not... 'An error occurred while saving the archive'
[16:01] <PanV> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/3.png << When I get in my desktop, it asks for a second password. I enter it and I can click at my files or type.
[16:01] <PanV> TJ-:
[16:02] <compdoc> Nyterax, does it need an addtional compression or encryption library/program installed?
[16:02] <Nyterax> not sure. I could create a regular 7z archive out of the box
[16:03] <TJ-> PanV: what is that image supposed to show, besides the desktop?
[16:04] <PanV> It is supposed to ask for a password. But if you don't know anything about it it doesn't matter.. since I guess you know how to decrypt the /home/ derictory.
[16:09] <PanV> so.. TJ-
[16:09] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[16:09] <TJ-> PanV: encrypted home's aren't encrypted /home/, that would be LUKS-dm-crypt. ecryptfs encrypts /home/$USER/, but putting the encrypted files/filenames under /home/.ecrpytfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/ and the wrapped pass-phrase under /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private/
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, interesting the geforce 210 has been around for a while, my 8400gs uses the same chip and it's only 2yrs old, mind you it's an entry level card
[16:11] <TJ-> PanV: during log-in, pam_ecryptfs tries to unwrap the master pass-phrase stored in /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase using the user account's password
[16:11] <PanV> TJ-: Could you help me get started? It's not necessary but I am a noob at following tutorials rather than following directions... How many stuff did I burn/destroy by following tutorials? oh wait not so many, I just had to reinstall AMD graphics like 15 times. Because people kept saying I should use fglrx...
[16:11] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, I found mine in a computer stone age computer at work that they were throwing on the trash heap.
[16:12] <PanV> TJ-: So.. how can I get started by decrypting the /$HOME folder?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, well it's worth every penny then :-)
[16:13] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, yep, especially when the integrated gpu doesn't work :)...
[16:13] <TJ-> PanV: As I asked earlier, have you recently changed the user's password?
[16:13] <gigino> ciao
[16:13] <gigino> !lista
[16:14] <PanV> TJ-: No.
[16:14] <PanV> Complicated answer: Why would I do that?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, the integrated gpu is an intel right, it's surprising that it's fried , they're usually quite reliable
[16:14] <PanV> BluesKaj: Intel graphics can get fried? Interesting..
[16:15] <TJ-> PanV: Because changing the password is one way that can cause the ecryptfs unlock to fail, until the ecryptfs wrapped-passphrase is synchronised with the new password.
[16:15] <PanV> BluesKaj: Any hardware can get fried but not 'burned'? Perhaps some stuff at translation..
[16:15] <Kitt3n> PanV, yep, if I connect a VGA cable to the onboard port, there's simply no signal
[16:15] <PanV> TJ-: Kitt3n Installed another graphics card?
[16:15] <Kitt3n> Yep. :) geforce 210 :)
[16:16] <PanV> Kitt3n: For me the intel graphics dont work since I got an other graphics card, with a different input
[16:16] <Kitt3n> CPU works totally fine, which is quite odd
[16:16] <PanV> The graphics card has an other input. It's not the same.
[16:16] <PanV> BRB
[16:16] <Kitt3n> it came without a PCI-E graphics card, only using the integrated one.
[16:17] <PanV>  pci-e = ?
[16:17] <Kitt3n> PCI express?
[16:17] <PanV> brb
[16:18] <loa> how i can temporarely disable loading of my nvidia driver?
[16:18] <loa> delete it from dkms?
[16:19] <TJ-> loa: blacklist it
[16:19] <Atiros> hola
[16:21] <insya> hello everyone, I am using a live ubuntu cd and want to install gksu, but it says unable to locate the package, even if I enabled universe.
[16:22] <PanV> Kitt3n: I just remembered. PCI is the place where you connect stuff like graphics card
[16:22] <stobix> insya: and you have, of course, updated the package list after enabling universe?
[16:22] <Kitt3n> PanV, PCI is the old standard, PCI-E is what's used mainly now ;)
[16:23] <PanV> Kitt3n: Oh yes :P Sorry my brain is not workign right now.
[16:23] <Kitt3n> :P
[16:23] <insya> stobix, by apt-get update?
[16:23] <PanV> Kitt3n: This is the #Ubuntu channel. I doubt this is an Ubuntu related problem, but you are the first guy that I am able to help XD
[16:23] <PanV> Kitt3n: You can also go to ##hardware
[16:24] <insya> stobix, thank you, it worked now
[16:24] <PanV> Kitt3n: If you connect the graphics card to PCI-E then Intel Integrated Graphics get disabled, until it is disconnected.
[16:24] <Kitt3n> PanV, I had to connect the nvidia card BECAUSE the integrated gpu doesn't work
[16:25] <stobix> insya: good. :) An easy thing to miss.
[16:25] <Kitt3n> integrated without nvidia = no display.
[16:25] <Atiros> un buen programa para ubuntu indispensable
[16:25] <PanV> Kitt3n: Oh. Unable to help then.
[16:25] <PanV> ##hardware
[16:25] <PanV> Kitt3n: I thought I would actually help somebody :c
[16:25] <Kitt3n> there's nothing I can do to make it work, I've tried XD
[16:25] <k1l> !es | Atiros
[16:25] <Kitt3n> would have to replace the cpu for that, which I don't wanna do
[16:26] <PanV> Kitt3n: Do you want to fix your graphics? Perhaps you can ask ##Hardware, they know way more about me regards hardware. and ubuntu probably :P
[16:26] <Kitt3n> Neh. I got the computer for free so and I've already tried looking into fixing it
[16:27] <PanV> Kitt3n: Free computer? Send me the computer if you can't fix it :P And go to ##hardware chat before you do that.
[16:27] <PanV> !ubuntu | Kitt3n
[16:27] <insya> stobix, have a good day, thank you again!
[16:27] <PanV> Oh, fail command
[16:27] <Guest19831> I welcome myself to Xchat
[16:27] <Kitt3n> PanV, it WORKS, I am not messing with it now that I've gotten it working!
[16:28] <PanV> Kitt3n: Wait, does it work or no? If yes why are ya here?
[16:28] <PanV> Let's continue chat in  /msg, this is irrevelant with ubuntu
[16:29] <nix__> I am currently using Ubuntu 14.04.03. When Ubuntu 15.10 gets released, should I upgrade?
[16:29] <k1l> nix__: you need to do 3 upgrades from 14.04 to 15.10.
[16:30] <BluesKaj> nix__, it will have to be a clean install
[16:30] <nix__> BluesKaj: Yeah, I'm aware of that. But should I? Are there any benefits?
[16:30] <k1l> nix__: and why dont you wait for the LTS to LTS (14.04 to 16.04) upgrade instead
[16:31] <Leonitus> I would imagine the new releases would be buggy
[16:31] <k1l> Leonitus: no need to
[16:32] <elijahr> i'm trying to reference two parent directories back with a parameter... something like $convertfile thisfile.ext %d.newfile where %d would give me the parent directory of the current working directory
[16:32] <stobix> A question: If I could temporarily uninstall and reinstall udev, it would probably solve my dependency hell. Problem is that uninstalling udev means uninstalling everything that depends on udev. Is there a way to circumvent this?
[16:32] <OerHeks> Leonitus, new releases can fix things that cannot be fixed now :-)
[16:33] <OerHeks> stobix, why not skip the uninstall step, and reinstall right away ?
[16:33] <elijahr> if I use %d, it just gives me the current working directory, not the parent directory. btw this is for the nautilus-actions configuration tool
[16:33] <stobix> OerHeks: Sounds nice. How?
[16:34] <stobix> OerHeks: the problem I have is (probably) that the postinstall script exits with an unknown error. Someone suggested that I remove the package, purge any remaining files and reinstall it.
[16:34] <OerHeks> stobix, sudo apt-get install --reinstall udev
[16:35] <stobix> Ah.
[16:35] <OerHeks> not sure why you think reinstall fix your issue
[16:35] <stobix> Well, wouldn't hurt to try. :)
[16:35] <PanV> TJ-: are you able to help?
[16:36] <elijahr> I can't find a list or explanation on how to use the % parameters anywhere
[16:36] <elijahr> the legend shows me the symbol for (first) base directory, but I guess I am looking for the second base directory
[16:38] <stobix> OerHeks: I assume the people suggesting that I reinstall it thought it would fix whatever script that is broken.
[16:38] <stobix> OerHeks: That does not seem to be the case, however.
[16:40] <stobix> OerHeks: What I'm trying to solve: dpkg --configure says that " subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[16:40] <stobix> "
[16:40] <stobix> (dpkg --configure udev, that is)
[16:41] <OerHeks> stobix, what exactly is going wrong with 'scripts' ?? can you post that error on  use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:41] <OerHeks> "assumption" about "the people" about "whatever script " is not informative at all.
[16:42] <stobix> OerHeks: sure, which output do you want? dpkg --configure udev ?
[16:42] <Starn> i am not sure what happened to my ubuntu install but the software center doesn't work anymore.  i can't get it to load or install packages even from the web where the packages are not in the apt-get listings.  i accidentally stopped aptd and the software center finally loaded up. but after start aptd the ubunutu software center will freeze. does anyone have any idea as to what's going on?
[16:42] <OerHeks> stobix, no, about the failing scripts, the original issue you came up with
[16:43] <Starn> also aptd uses 20 to 50% cpu at all times when it's running.
[16:44] <Starn> which it's always running in the background
[16:44] <stobix> OerHeks: Hm. The thing that caused this to begin with is that I tried to upgrade to 14.10, which failed because the gui method (update-manager) it couldn't find any sources. I then did a do-release-upgrade instead, which directly went for vivid. I didn't make the connection between "vivid" and "15.04" until it was a bit too late.
[16:45] <stobix> So, basically, do-release-upgrade tried to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 directly, and I'm now trying to fix the resulting dependency hell.
[16:45] <OerHeks> stobix, oh, that can be fixed, 14.10 ie EOL, so you need the old-releases trick, see ubottu
[16:45] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[16:45] <OerHeks> ie-is
[16:46] <intrader> I want to install cint, but the package manager does not find it - can anyone help locate a download site?
[16:46] <stobix> OerHeks: oh, nice. Let's hope it says how to fix this. :)
[16:46] <k1l> !info cint
[16:47] <Pici> intrader: what is cint?
[16:47] <intrader> a c++ interpreter
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/406483/unable-to-install-cint-on-ubuntu-12-04
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> ?
[16:47] <stobix> OerHeks: right now, my system thinks it's vivid, but it fails to configure or install anything because of dependencies not yet being configured. My hypothesis is that I need to find the "bottom most" package (if such a package exists) and cofigure it.
[16:48] <jpds> intrader: It's not packaged at all on Ubuntu
[16:48]  * stobix reads the link
[16:49] <jpds> intrader: Actually, apparently it's in the root-system-bin package
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> !find cint
[16:49] <intrader> jpds, too bad, as it is quite useful to interpret the language directly instead of compile,link,etc. What is the root-system-bin package?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> !info root-system-bin
[16:50] <k1l> intrader: iirc its in root-system-bin included
[16:51] <marcinlawnik> Is this a good channel to ask a tar syntax question?
[16:51] <mrvadon> maybe
[16:51] <intrader> kll, ubottu, how do I locate the package for cint in the root-system-bin?
[16:52] <k1l> intrader: that is already the package
[16:52] <hhhhh> I have an i3-wm question.  I installed i3 from the command line - it won't interpret the config as I expect though.
[16:52] <intrader> k1l, what do you mean?
[16:52] <marcinlawnik> I'll try then. I'm trying to make a tar backup of a vps, but the syntax I'm using is wrong.
[16:52] <marcinlawnik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12886882/
[16:53] <hhhhh> Website reads - "mouse_warping none" as an appropriate command to disable mouse warping, but my config output reads: ERROR: CONFIG: Line 178: mouse_warping none
[16:53] <hhhhh> ERROR: CONFIG:           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[16:53] <hhhhh> ERROR: CONFIG: Line 179:
[16:53] <hhhhh>  
[16:53] <cynixx3> !eol14
[16:53] <auronandace> hhhhh: i3 have a channel on a different network, check their website to find the irc network and channel
[16:53] <hhhhh> :O
[16:53] <hhhhh> Thanks.
[16:54] <k1l> !eol | cynixx3
[16:55] <k1l> intrader: the package is the root-system-bin. there are no more packages inside packages.
[16:56] <bluesfreak72> Hi there.  I've been googling around for a tutorial on rooting my Samsung Galaxy S5 Mini using ubuntu, but haven't found anything.  I have installed android-tools-adb and android-tools-fastboot.
[16:57] <marcinlawnik> bluesfreak72, check xda-developers.com
[16:57] <intrader> k1l, thanks I try location root-system-bin
[16:57] <k1l> bluesfreak72: you will need specific programs and howtos for your device. better see the samsung s5 mini community on how to root your device
[16:58] <bluesfreak72> k1l:  I'll check them out.  Thanks.
[16:59] <Starn> any one know why aptd is making ubuntu software center not work?
[16:59] <lynxer10> Hey guys good afternoon
[17:01] <intrader> quit
[17:01] <intrader> help
[17:02] <croziors> hi
[17:02] <lynxer10> I'm having some Msg on my Ubuntu start up "starting version 219" and it's making my boot time too slow anyone knows how to fix it?
[17:03] <croziors> hello
[17:03] <croziors> auto lo
[17:03] <croziors> iface lo inet loopback
[17:03] <croziors>    not work :s
[17:03] <bekks> croziors: What exactly is "not work" on that?
[17:03] <croziors> interface
[17:04] <croziors> ifup: interface lo already configured
[17:04] <croziors>  but i don t see in ifconfig LO
[17:04] <bekks> "interface" is a word out of context. Can you form a full sentence?
[17:04] <stobix> OerHeks: my problem right now: apt-get dist-upgrade can't configure udev, so it exists unsuccessfully. The only error I get is that "dpkg: error processing package udev (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[17:04] <croziors> ping 127.0.0.1 not work
[17:04] <croziors> but eth0 work
[17:04] <stobix> OerHeks: it also gives me a "supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Ubuntu release: 15.04" before that
[17:05] <bekks> croziors: Pastebin the entire output of "cat /etc/hosts; cat /etc/issue; cat /etc/network/interfaces; ifconfig -a" please.
[17:05] <pepijndevos_> I installed Jack, but now my normal sound does no longer work. Any idea what to do?
[17:05] <auronandace> stobix: a botched upgrade would be a nightmare to piece apart, it really is a whole lot easier to backup what you need and fresh install
[17:06] <stobix> auronandace: I guess. I am actually burning a 15.04 dvd right now. (and a gentoo one, since I won't ever have this problem in gentoo.)
[17:07] <stobix> auronandace: it would be nice if I could keep my home folder. Is this possible when reinstalling ubuntu?
[17:07] <croziors> http://pastebin.com/LqzFhW6s
[17:07]  * stobix has just moved everything out of his encrypted user to a new user with an unencrypted home folder, just to be on the safe side.
[17:07] <auronandace> stobix: sure, you just need to make sure any config files don't conflict
[17:08]  * stobix does not, however, have a 260 GiB dvd to backup his data to.
[17:08] <stobix> auronandace: oh, so it might overwrite config files but keeps the rest intact?
[17:08] <auronandace> stobix: external harddrives are handy as one means of local backup
[17:09] <stobix> Yeah. Can't conjure up an empty one right now, though.
[17:09] <ineedtoscholarsh> What's the difference between Minimal (Non-X Support) Ubuntu driver and regular driver?
[17:11] <stobix> ineedtoscholarsh: X is the graphical system you're (supposedly) currently using. If you only use your machine in text mode, you won't need support for X.
[17:12] <stobix> ineedtoscholarsh: since you need to ask the question, I think it's safe to assume that you'd want to have the regular driver of whatever it is you're talking about.
[17:12] <croziors> bekks ?
[17:12] <auronandace> stobix: sorry, i meant that your current config files in home might conflict with the new installation. Since you won't be formatting home then the configs will not be overwritten
[17:12] <croziors> hmm
[17:12] <stobix> auronandace: ah. sounds safe enough then. (What Could Go Wrong™)
[17:12] <croziors> i know i have modify hosts
[17:12] <croziors> :)
[17:13] <gh16ito> I'm trying to back up using Deja Dup, and after a while it gives me this error: "Giving up after 5 attempts. Error: g-io-error-quark: Error opening file '/u1/home/duplicity-full.20151021T163951Z.vol200.difftar.gz': Read-only file system (21)"
[17:13] <auronandace> stobix: up to you if you want to use another username to have a fresh account and copy over what you need from the old user, that may be the safest route
[17:13] <ineedtoscholarsh> stobix : i have a amd graphic Radeon R4 graphic   wich one of these i have to insall ?
[17:13] <gh16ito> It created a bunch of diftar volumes, so I don't think it's a permissions issue.
[17:14] <gh16ito> It created exactly 200 difftar volumes, actually.
[17:14] <gh16ito> Actually, maybe it's something to do with the cord, let me try that.
[17:14] <stobix> ineedtoscholarsh: depends on if you like to use a mouse, have menus, look at pictures and such. If that is the case, use the regular one. If not, go for the non X version. (pro tip: I don't think you would want the non X version.)
[17:15] <Starn> so nothing on aptd crashing ubuntu software center?
[17:15] <ineedtoscholarsh> stobix : thats right i  like regular
[17:18] <ZeZu> I have a Wily install that I can't get to boot,  it's failing to find rootfs and going into loop waiting on mdadm to find an array ... but i can boot into it just fine in a VM...  but when i update initramfs I get warnings from mdadm.conf that no arrays are defined (which i've never seen before).  And there is no reason for it not to boot,  the kernel finds the usb disk it's on just fine as I boot a livecd off of it.
[17:18] <auronandace> !wily | ZeZu
[17:18] <OerHeks> ZeZu, untill release, support in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:20] <ineedtoscholarsh>  stobix : what is AMD Catalyst™ 15.9 Proprietary Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 Video Driver for Graphics Accelerators Devel Files (OGL, OCL)
[17:21] <stobix> ineedtoscholarsh: I have no idea whatsoever. What does the description say?
[17:22] <ineedtoscholarsh> stobix : http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64
[17:24] <auronandace> ineedtoscholarsh: you really ought to stick with the drivers in the ubuntu repos (additional drivers)
[17:26] <OerHeks> fglrx driver 15.7 also known as 15.20 is in Ubuntu repositories for trusty, vivid and wily releases.
[17:28] <Starn> this is my pastebin for software center.. http://pastebin.com/Ed8qqmbt
[17:29] <OerHeks> Starn, on what linux version ?
[17:30] <Starn> OerHeks, Ubuntu 15.04
[17:30] <k1l> Starn: did you change something with python on the system? what os is that exactly?
[17:30] <Carol_> hi can someone help me as I'm a bit confused
[17:30] <baizon> !ask | Carol_
[17:31] <OerHeks> Starn, oke, try in terminal:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure software-center --force
[17:31] <Starn> kil: ubuntu 15.04 and i've personally not changed anything in python all i've done is install updates and steam.
[17:31] <Carol_> hello?
[17:31] <OerHeks> then update again
[17:31] <Carol_> anybody up there?
[17:31] <Starn> OerHeks, i've tried that..
[17:31] <Pici> Carol_: there are about 1,800 people here. do you have a specific question?
[17:31] <Starn> OerHeks, if you can find it on google or askubuntu i've tried it.
[17:32] <Starn> OerHeks, i will try again just for the sake of being thorough
[17:32] <OerHeks> Starn, what is the output if you try: sudo apt-get install -f
[17:33] <Starn> OerHeks, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:40] <Starn> OerHeks, if i recall correctly my issue started after i signed onto my ubuntu one account. but i could be wrong on that one. it's been  a few days.
[17:43] <OerHeks> Starn, remove that stored password in passwords&keys, and try again ?
[17:45] <Starn> OerHeks, just found it and removed trying to launch it again.
[17:46] <OerHeks> Starn, if it works, you might have given a hint to a long known issue when those python2.7 issues appear suddely :-)
[17:47] <pkull> Hi! I have a newbie ufw issue. sudo ufw allow from xx.xx.xx.xxx does what it is supposed to do but sudo ufw delete allow from xx.xx.xx.xxx does not undo that. Any idea about what I might be doing wrong?
[17:48] <Starn> OerHeks, still not working :(
[17:49] <OerHeks> Starn, are you sure you have softwarecenter open without the terminal you just used? that can bite too.
[17:50] <OerHeks> if so, i am out of ideas :-(
[17:50] <TJ-> Starn: OerHeks "2015-10-21 12:21:46,203 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - error creating bsddb: '(22, 'Invalid argument -- BDB0054 illegal flag combination specified to DB_ENV->open')' (corrupted?)"
[17:51] <OerHeks> TJ-, would "  sudo dpkg-reconfigure software-center --force " fix that?
[17:52] <Starn> OerHeks, new pastebin.http://pastebin.com/jpQ1JRwc
[17:52] <TJ-> OerHeks: not sure, but definitely worth a try
[17:52] <Starn> TJ-, what does that even mean? i understand the possible corruption.
[17:52] <pepijndevos_> My audio is messed up aplay does work now, but Firefox does not.
[17:52] <OerHeks> TJ-, he did already :-(
[17:53] <Starn> TJ-, i've also tried purge and reinstalling everything.
[17:54] <OerHeks> TJ-, or his filesystem is mounted read only.. could be the issue too ...
[17:54] <OerHeks> Starn, can you write a file in your /home/  ?
[17:54] <Starn> OerHeks, yes.
[17:54] <OerHeks> touch ~/something
[17:54] <OerHeks> oke, so it is not a faulty filesystem
[17:55] <Starn> OerHeks, yep touch ~/something made a file haha
[17:56] <TJ-> Starn: have you tried "rm -R ~/.cache/software-center"
[17:57] <Eyo> is this a good place to ask about correcting dependencies? https://bpaste.net/raw/6a7cce13c5ca
[17:57] <Eyo> I wanted to just remove gcc/build-essential and reinstall but now it won't let me
[17:58] <TJ-> Starn: does the software centre GUI 'crash' or remain running?
[17:59] <Starn> TJ-, just did and it's still not loading. and we've gotten to the point it doesn't crash it loads now just freezes.
[17:59] <TJ-> Starn: this may be related: bug #1163886
[17:59] <Starn> TJ-, before it was literally crash to desktop.
[18:00] <Eyo> the root of the problem is this:
[18:01] <Eyo> https://bpaste.net/raw/e2f7ca0d385b
[18:03] <Starn> TJ-, i lied it crashed again..  so it's doing both just freezes and sometimes crashes.
[18:03] <TJ-> Starn: from that bug report, there's a possible workaround in comment 29
[18:03] <daftykins> PanV1: i didn't send you that link at all, but if you found another you could follow - cool :)
[18:03] <ijar> hello everyone, I deleted one of the OSes on my machine. it was the one with grub, as it turned out. now grub rescue screen comes at start. what do I need to do?
[18:04] <TJ-> Starn: also mentioned in specific detail in comment 31
[18:05] <ememota> hello
[18:05] <TJ-> Starn: comment 45 gives step-by-step instructions
[18:06] <Starn> TJ-, i'll give it a try. also software-center --version produced no errors.
[18:08] <TJ-> Starn: there's a silly test too! "software-center --force-rtl" :D
[18:08] <alteregoa> hello ubuntunian candidates
[18:08] <TJ-> Starn: I assume RTL is right-to-left text ... but worth a try :)
[18:09] <alteregoa> ubuntu delayed for marty mcflys arrival?
[18:09] <Starn> so far the fixes on launchpad don't work..
[18:09] <Starn> TJ-, i'll try the software-center --force-rtl
[18:11] <ijar> I found this page referring to my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/493826/grub-rescue-problem-after-deleting-ubuntu-partition    but I also dont know what I'd need to insert as the right partition name. is it something like sda1, sda2..?
[18:12] <daftykins> ijar: boot a live session from a flash drive then reinstall grub perhaps
[18:13] <ijar> daftykins, I am already in live session. how can I reinstall grub?
[18:13] <daftykins> !grub
[18:13] <Starn> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/tQHKqYT8  new pastebin.. it didn't work seems like same errors?
[18:14] <Starn> TJ-, i'm terrible btw at reading debug info and console info like this. half the stuff just confuses me.
[18:14] <OerHeks> Starn, are you on wireless now?
[18:14] <ijar> is it with this procedure here: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd ?
[18:14] <OerHeks> Starn, from that earlier bugreport, someone mentioned that all went normal on cable...
[18:15] <ijar> want to make sure before applying
[18:15] <TJ-> Starn: can you do "strace -o /tmp/sc.log -f -e trace=file software-center" and then pastebin the /tmp/sc.log ?
[18:15] <daftykins> ijar: is that you searching yourself, or following the links ubottu provided from my trigger?
[18:15] <OerHeks> ijar, why not use the given url, see ubottu
[18:17] <ijar> because it is not a simple solution page as in the link I referred
[18:18] <ijar> basically I wanted to know if it is correct
[18:18] <OerHeks> maybe, not tested that version.
[18:19] <daftykins> ijar: run boot repair like the link says please
[18:19] <OnceMe> to backup my system, without home, (I didnt mounted home) is rsync -av --one-file-system /mnt /media/dest enough?
[18:19] <OnceMe> that will prevent /proc /dev and other unnecessery stuff?
[18:19] <ijar> daftykins, like the link I posted says, or the link in ubottu?
[18:19] <jpds> OnceMe: That'll just pull whatever's in /mnt
[18:20] <daftykins> ijar: the one i said.
[18:20] <jpds> OnceMe: And you probably want -aPv
[18:20] <ijar> there is no solution there.
[18:20] <ijar> two pages of explanation
[18:20] <Eyo> can someone help me with correcting dependencies? https://bpaste.net/raw/6a7cce13c5ca the root of the problem is this https://bpaste.net/raw/e2f7ca0d385b
[18:20] <ijar> I show a solution page and dont get any comment
[18:20] <ijar> why?
[18:20] <Eyo> they both want different packages
[18:20] <ijar> why is it always like this?
[18:20] <ijar> lately
[18:21] <ijar> here
[18:21] <ijar> no help
[18:21] <Eyo> I wanted to just remove gcc/build-essential and reinstall but now it won't let me
[18:21] <ijar> just "do as you are told"
[18:21] <ijar> what is that?
[18:21] <jpds> ijar: That page looks pretty good ot me
[18:21] <ijar> to me not.
[18:21] <OerHeks> ijar, go for it, if it crashes, you can always try OUR page :-D
[18:21] <ijar> because I am new with this
[18:21] <OerHeks> !attitude
[18:21] <megi> hello!! guys
[18:21] <daftykins> ijar: it says run boot repair, so please do it.
[18:22] <OerHeks> daftykins +1
[18:22] <ijar> and dont see why we have to talk over this link or that link when I already show a solution and ask for advice if I should use it
[18:22] <ijar> oh yes..attitude.
[18:22] <daftykins> ijar: because the resources provided to you are ALREADY checked, i'm not going to extra effort to check yours just because you can't follow ours.
[18:22] <OerHeks> ijar, again: maybe, not tested that version.
[18:22] <ijar> oh yours, ours..
[18:23] <ijar> it already shows the thinking
[18:23] <ijar> there used to be positive helping people here
[18:23] <daftykins> what, that community edited guides *just might* be ok? :)
[18:23] <megi> I'ld like to ask you something about my system. Swap partition especially. I've had swap partition upon installing the system but I wanted to change it after a while.
[18:23] <daftykins> ijar: there are still, just for some reason you are an awkward user who refuses to follow provided advice.
[18:24] <jpds> ijar: Why don't you try boot-repair and see what happens rather than complain on here?
[18:24] <kazuma_> ijar noone wants to help you if you sound like your complaining either and saying noone is postive
[18:24] <ijar> you awkwardly abstain from taking that one step
[18:24] <daftykins> ijar: i think you'll find that's you :)
[18:24] <kazuma_> you're
[18:24] <Starn> TJ-, yeah sorry i can do that. i was temp away.. running the command now.
[18:24] <ijar> yes, I had no intention to spend minutes here like this
[18:25] <TJ-> ijar: if you deleted the 'ubuntu' partition (file-system) then there will be no GRUB root file-system available - so it cannot load its modules nor grub.cfg. In other words, you'll have deleted 3/4 or GRUBs essential files
[18:25] <jpds> ijar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Using_the_Ubuntu_CD_.28Recommended.29
[18:25] <megi> My system used to use the SWAP very often but now it doesn't use it... the swappines value is 60 I have had 1,9 GB ram used out of 2,9 GB, but still swap partition is 0. If I log in as Guest user It uses it as it has to.
[18:25] <jpds> ijar: Literally four steps with a GUI app
[18:26] <ijar> jpds, I havent installed windows. I have nothing to do with windows
[18:26] <jpds> ijar: Same principal applies for restoring GRUB
[18:26] <daftykins> _nobody_ is talking about Windows, the advice simply applies the same
[18:26] <megi> I've created another user just to check if there is diffenrence but not...
[18:26] <OnceMe> jpds:ok so how to exclude /proc /dev and all that stuff I dont need for a backup
[18:26] <megi> Is it because i have separated /home volume?
[18:26] <OnceMe> since its volatile
[18:27] <TJ-> jpds: that's not the same issue. In that issue, there'd be no grub rescue (the first 1/4 of GRUB). ijar has blown away the GRUB root file-system
[18:27] <ijar> seriously...
[18:27] <OerHeks> OnceMe, why would you backup those messed-up systemfolders?
[18:27] <OnceMe> OerHeks:well I dont
[18:27] <OnceMe> I am finding a way to rsync it without those weird sysdirs
[18:28] <flappynerd> megi, a separate /home partition shouldn't likely affect much of anything
[18:28] <jpds> ijar: Yes, seriously, it's exactly the same steps, windows or no windows
[18:28] <bekks> OnceMe: "man rsync", find "--exclude".
[18:28] <megi> Hello? Something about my swap. I really don't want to reinstall the whole system just to use SWAP partition
[18:28] <OnceMe> I dont know what all sys folders I dont need
[18:28] <OnceMe> exclude is not the way to go
[18:28] <bekks> OnceMe: Then backup everything you need.
[18:28] <bekks> OnceMe: Exclude actually IS the way to go.
[18:28] <TJ-> ijar: in your link, did you follow the steps in the 1st answer, to find the file-system containing GRUB's files?
[18:28] <daftykins> megi: are you saying you don't have one right now but want to add one?
[18:29] <reisio> megi: something?
[18:29] <ijar> I was ready to go with the solution the link of which I posted. apart from the problem, it is amazing I didnt get any single confirmation if it is ok to do so.
[18:29] <megi> no I've deleted my first swap partition
[18:29] <jpds> ijar: 18:21:30 < jpds> ijar: That page looks pretty good ot me
[18:29] <OerHeks> ijar, you did get one, but i leave you to it, goodluck.
[18:29] <reisio> megi: and?
[18:29] <daftykins> ijar: also amazing how stubborn you are :)
[18:29] <megi> recreated it with the same UUID value and now my system mounts it but not using it by my user
[18:29] <TJ-> ijar: If you deleted the Ubuntu partition, that is usually also the GRUB root file-system, so there will be no fix. You'll have to reinstall the entire OS
[18:30] <megi> only GUEST user uses it. why is that?
[18:30] <jpds> megi: You could always use a swap file instead of a partition
[18:30] <reisio> megi: sudo mkswap /dev/foo, sudo swapon /dev/foo
[18:30] <daftykins> megi: can you show the output of "free -m" in a paste at http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[18:30] <EriC^^> OnceMe: if you've mounted it under /mnt then just copy it and use the --exclude "home" command as bekks said to remove your home dir
[18:30] <reisio> megi: swap isn't something that is mounted at all
[18:30] <jpds> megi: I don't think the guest session is saved to disk
[18:30] <OerHeks> megi, a browser uses t in guest session, as it cannot write to its home, there is no guest home
[18:30] <EriC^^> OnceMe: the sys dirs are all empty if it's mounted from the live session, they only get populated when you boot
[18:30] <reisio> if by 'use' you mean "gets it mounted", that's irrelevant
[18:31] <megi> I don't want to use swap file as my hdd is really messed up with bad sectors
[18:31] <OerHeks> megi, a browser uses swap in guest session, as it cannot write to its home, there is no guest home
[18:31] <megi> I've just managed to find good sectors 'for now' and don't want to force rewrite in my / dir
[18:31] <daftykins> megi: you shouldn't even be using that computer then, you should backup your data and buy a new one.
[18:32] <daftykins> even a single bad sector is unacceptable.
[18:32] <megi> nope guest account uses /tmp directory
[18:32] <megi> to write on, my user had /home instead
[18:32] <OnceMe> ok doing whole sys backup except for home dir,I already got that
[18:32] <OnceMe> after that I will start win8 installation :)
[18:32] <ijar> jpds, ok, as can be seen from my reply to it, I thought you referred to the u-boot link
[18:33] <bekks> OnceMe: Do you have a backup of your home already?
[18:33] <daftykins> megi: no, you need to keep installing updates to stay safe online, so you have to replace that drive - there is no choice here, it is fact.
[18:33] <ijar> ehm, sorry, ubottu...
[18:33] <megi> I know about that bad sectors it's just for a while until I buy a knew hdd
[18:33] <megi> new*
[18:33] <daftykins> 'a while' is how long?
[18:33] <daftykins> you should have ordered one already :)
[18:33] <EriC^^> OnceMe: all the partitions right? cause i remember you had a bunch
[18:33] <megi> month or two, not sure yet
[18:33] <OnceMe> well yes
[18:33] <daftykins> megi: anyway swap will always be on disk so there's no way to help you
[18:33] <OnceMe> Im going to remove them all
[18:33] <OnceMe> and start fresh
[18:34] <megi> although it's not my laptop, depends on my friends willing to buy new hdd
[18:34] <EriC^^> OnceMe: i mean did you mount them all and back it all up?
[18:34] <jpds> megi: Get an SSD
[18:34] <EriC^^> OnceMe: cause you had like 3 or 4 of them
[18:34] <megi> it's too old laptop doesn't deserve ssd :D
[18:35] <reisio> megi: so you don't have a problem?
[18:35] <reisio> oh good :p
[18:35] <OnceMe> EriC^^:I dont need backup from windows partitions
[18:35] <OnceMe> I had nothing on them :)
[18:35] <bekks> OnceMe: Do you have a backup of your home already?
[18:35] <EriC^^> OnceMe: i mean the linux ones were like 3 or 4
[18:35] <EriC^^> OnceMe: can you type cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[18:35] <EriC^^> it'll show what gets mounted where
[18:36] <Starn> TJ-, i'm running into a lot of issues trying to paste this into pastebin.
[18:36] <megi> I've just wanted to know how to recreate swap partition in order to use it by my user, as it was after I installed the system
[18:37] <OnceMe> I manually edited fstabs and they are broken :D
[18:37] <bekks> megi: swap is always used by the system, not by a user.
[18:37] <megi> but tnx anyway, I'll reinstall...
[18:37] <OnceMe> but those partitions others were for swap\
[18:37] <OnceMe> boot home and linux itself
[18:37] <EriC^^> oh
[18:37] <TJ-> Starn: file too big?
[18:37] <megi> ok so how I can manage the system to use it when I use many programs
[18:37] <TJ-> Starn: generally, "pastebinit /tmp/sc.log" should do it
[18:37] <daftykins> megi: you can't, it's damaged, i wouldn't be using it at all.
[18:37] <bekks> megi: mkswap /dev/foo; swap -a /dev/foo
[18:38] <megi> with swappiness 60 and 2 gb ram full out of 3 gb should the swap be used right?
[18:38] <bekks> megi: But since your disk is damaged, I second daftykins
[18:38] <Starn> TJ-, that might work better than me trying to use a webbrowser 'cause it's so large my computer is literally slowing down
[18:38] <EriC^^> OnceMe: you had a 4gb boot?
[18:38] <reisio> megi: wha?
[18:39] <reisio> megi: swap is mostly used when you run out of ram, or if you're suspending
[18:39] <megi> reisio: I've had 2 gb out of 3 GB ram used and swap - none
[18:39] <megi> but it's mapped
[18:40] <OnceMe> EriC^^:yap :D
[18:40] <daftykins> megi: as i asked, "free -m" in a pastebin would be handy right now.
[18:40] <reisio> megi: like I said
[18:40] <megi> although hibernation not working
[18:40] <reisio> separate issue
[18:40] <megi> upon the same reason- there is no processes running by my user transferred to swap space
[18:41] <reisio> megi: so what
[18:41] <reisio> are you trying to find a problem you don't have? :p
[18:41] <megi> free -m says 2000000 b and 0 b used
[18:41] <daftykins> megi: can you run the above command?
[18:41] <megi> i can assure you about that
[18:41] <daftykins> megi: put the whole thing in a pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <Starn> TJ-, this might take a bit with my slow upload rate and considering the file is 288mb i'm assuming that's would technically need to be uploaded? the pastebinit /tmp/sc.log command is running right now
[18:41] <megi> ok.. I'll paste it
[18:42] <TJ-> Starn: Ouch! stop it then, that'll fail anyhow with 'too big' lets compress it :)
[18:42] <megi> I may not have problems now but what about running out of ram - I can't deal with 3 gb ram using video editing and office programs...
[18:42] <Starn> TJ-, yeah quad core 6gb ram can barely open it in pluma or gedit btw.
[18:43] <daftykins> megi: i still want to see the output of that command first-hand, do you refuse to share it? is there some problem?
[18:43] <reisio> megi: what makes you think you're running out of ram
[18:43] <TJ-> Starn: "pushd /tmp; gzip sc.log; ls -l sc.log.*" you should now have a "sc.log.gz" which is much smaller, and can be uploaded to a file-sharing web-site (unfortunately Ubuntu doesn't have one!)
[18:43] <ijar> daftykins, OerHeks, "stubbornness" explained: with the link I posted, for which I only needed to hear "yes, you can use it in your case", I solved the problem in a quarter of the time I tried to get an answer.
[18:44] <daftykins> ijar: well you should've followed the one given, so you can take your smug attitude and reassess your approach to taking free help in future.
[18:44] <Starn> TJ-, i have google drive will that work for you?
[18:45] <TJ-> ijar: if you fixed the issue you cannot have deleted the Ubuntu partition/file-system
[18:45] <TJ-> Starn: sure will.... although I have to break for dinner right now so might be a little while to get back to it
[18:45] <ijar> you seriously have problem in your mind
[18:45] <megi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12887609/
[18:46] <ijar> TJ- yes, one partition was deleted
[18:46] <daftykins> ok, so 11GB swap
[18:46] <megi> yeah it's too much but it eneded like empty space so I decided to use it
[18:46] <reisio> excess of swap
[18:47] <Starn> TJ-, that's fine i got some things to do other than mess with computer anyways haha gotta clean up and eat my self XD
[18:47] <geomyidae_> oh upstart, I love you so, even though my network is up, none of the services with "network" in the name are stopped
[18:47] <daftykins> but as soon as your disk gets used, it's going to start reading and writing in areas that might cause more bad sectors, then you'll start losing data (potentially) and bad things will happen
[18:47] <geomyidae_> which means the upstart guide telling you to use "stopped networking" as a trigger is useless
[18:47] <megi> it's not a problem the swap size but the utilizing of it
[18:47] <daftykins> megi: it shouldn't be used until the RAM is full - and that's what's happening :)
[18:47] <megi> as you see 815 free ram and 0 used swap. why is that?
[18:47] <ijar> I tell the guy I solved the problem in a minute with the solution that he avoided confirming which he could do with a single glance. and he still says "you should have.."..gosh..no use here
[18:47] <Starn> TJ-, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B63NgyYRildrZ1VxV2VFalloNHM/view?usp=sharing   i believe that link will work
[18:47] <daftykins> !linuxatemyram
[18:47] <daftykins> damn.
[18:48] <megi> not sure about that - that's what swappines if for!
[18:48] <daftykins> !ram | megi here
[18:48] <daftykins> megi: well your situation isn't really worthy of much consideration since your disk is failing anyway, so i don't really know what you're looking for today
[18:48] <ijar> daftykins, don't PM me writing adjectives, rude man! if you're ashamed of using them in public, don't PM people, either!
[18:49] <megi> well I can use your resolving of that problem on my personal laptop as well
[18:49] <reisio> megi: swap isn't used until you need it
[18:49] <megi> I've did the same there and the same ***
[18:49] <reisio> megi: what's the problem
[18:50] <megi> ok I'll fill my ram and i'm pretty sure no swap will be used after all
[18:50] <TJ-> Starn: I have the file; I'll look when I return from dinner
[18:50] <reisio> mmhmmm
[18:50] <reisio> TJ-: what's for supper?
[18:50] <megi> I'ld like to be certain that my system is not going to hang when I use video editing software or emulate some windows program or something else that requires a lot of RAM
[18:51] <reisio> better to wait for a problem to exist before fixing it
[18:51] <megi> yeah ram-to-swap might be slow but still it's a solution for now
[18:51] <Starn> TJ-, alright  if the link gave ya my gplus info you're more than welcomed to message me when you're back otherwise hopefully i don't lose your message on here.
[18:51] <daftykins> not with a faulty disk it isn't :)
[18:52] <megi> there's gonna be reinstall it seems...
[18:53] <daftykins> megi: how about sharing your disk SMART info to see how bad it is right now? install: pastebinit smartmontools, then run: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[18:53] <megi> I'm trying to tell you that ubuntu has problem with recreating swap partitions as not using them but you are not listening. Why there is an option for virtual memory as you cannot use it.. don't understant that
[18:53] <daftykins> we are listening, there's just no point resolving that even if it is as you say, whilst the disk is faulty.
[18:53] <reisio> moreover, you haven't proved it
[18:54] <megi> it's that bad so I've had to leave first 50GB sectors and the last 50GB of disk geometry to use that 500GB sata disk
[18:54] <daftykins> lol
[18:54] <daftykins> that's horrific
[18:54] <megi> it's gonna be long time to wait for smartctl to finish
[18:54] <reisio> the time you've spent on it already is probably worth a 500gb replacement drive
[18:54] <daftykins> it just reads info so it won't take long at all
[18:55] <daftykins> megi: it's instant, just an information command
[18:55] <reisio> smartctl is pointless
[18:55] <daftykins> well i wanna see how bad it is :P
[18:55] <reisio> best case, it tells you what you already know
[18:55] <megi> :D well it's not my laptop, I'ld have bought one hdd already
[18:55] <daftykins> why are you even using someone elses?
[18:55] <reisio> so wasting time for someone else is good? :p
[18:55] <daftykins> reisio: are they not doing the same to us? ;)
[18:56] <ubuntuUser> hi all
[18:57] <reisio> nope
[18:57] <reisio> teaching someone how to not waste time is not a waste of time
[18:57] <reisio> at least not compared to most things
[18:57] <reisio> ubuntuUser: hi
[18:58] <megi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12887703/ here is the output
[18:58] <megi> ahahh i'm not using it but configuring it
[18:59] <lepel101> Hi, I am trying (an failing, so far) to use xpra with ubuntu on the server side and windows on the client side
[19:00] <reisio> lepel101: bummer
[19:00] <lepel101> After succesfully starting xpra on the ubuntu server (xpra reports it enters into daemon mode) I get the following error after attempting to connect to it: "server requested disconnect: server error accepting new connection"
[19:00] <ubuntuUser> please someone know how to edit resources on Windows' exe files with an ubuntu command line (or eventualy a lib in python or other) ?
[19:00] <bekks> ubuntuUser: Whats the actual issue behind that?
[19:00] <megi> so what do you think about that WD hdd :D
[19:01] <reisio> ubuntuUser: to do what
[19:01] <lepel101> the (I think most relevant) line in the error log on the server states "failed to parse screen size information: too many values to unpack"
[19:01] <ubuntuUser> put my openvpn config on my exe client
[19:01] <daftykins> megi: 124 pending sectors, mmm ouch
[19:01] <bekks> ubuntuUser: Thats not going to work.
[19:02] <ubuntuUser> the client works
[19:02] <bekks> ubuntuUser: you need to modify the source code of that binary for reading the config from the resources section properky.
[19:02] <megi> :D toshiba will be it
[19:02] <megi> the new hdd :D
[19:02] <catbug> hey guys, i just got a logitech g430 headset
[19:02] <daftykins> megi: i wouldn't
[19:02] <catbug> is there a way i can get it to work with trusty
[19:02] <lepel101> the full error on the server since attempting to connect -> http://pastebin.com/ttK5V56d
[19:02] <ubuntuUser> no I wrote a litle gui in python that manage openvpn
[19:02] <daftykins> but whatever you want ;)
[19:02] <akik> ubuntuUser: have you tried unzipping the openvpn client exe?
[19:02] <catbug> via usb
[19:03] <ubuntuUser> I've create an exe with py2exe
[19:03] <megi> in most cases (in my hands especially) hitachi and seagate lasts longer
[19:03] <megi> as hitachi is cheaper... :D
[19:03] <lepel101> I searched for the error, and only 1 hit on google even remotely resembles something relevant -> https://www.xpra.org/trac/ticket/757
[19:05] <akik> ubuntuUser: the openvpn server on pfsense creates a openvpn client package exe which is actually a zip file
[19:06] <ubuntuUser> and I've create an installer that install openvpn, put config and add my gui but now I want to edit the exe with my webserver the config file inside the exe
[19:06] <Starn> so empathy has sms? i'm confused on this now. like how does it work? how do ya use it? can it work with the google hangouts protocol? i just now found this function in empathy and i want to know if it's even usable.
[19:06] <daftykins> ubuntuUser: that is not an Ubuntu task, since an .exe is Windows
[19:06] <lepel101> would appreciate any help or suggestions :)  (btw, I can connect to the server and run x programs using ssh -X and xming)
[19:06] <ubuntuUser> but I want to make this with my ubuntu server
[19:07] <lepel101> (also would appreciate if someone forwards me to a more appropriate channel for my problem, if there is any)
[19:08] <bitbyter> part
[19:11] <lepel101> to give some context,  I have a fairly unstable internet connection, and with ssh -X,  everytime I get disconnected I lose all my work
[19:13] <bekks> lepel101: I suggest using nxclient/nxserver then.
[19:13] <lepel101> the program still runs on the server,  but the screen is lost at the client side
[19:13] <Dyzem> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem with my WiFi dropping after about 15 - 20 mins of Ubuntu starting up and only reboot reconnects. The icon states that I'm still connected but no webpages will load. I've tried a number of terminal commands from old forum posts but not getting anywhere.
[19:13] <lepel101> searching for a solution for that,  I found out that you can reconnect/reattach to existing x sessions using xpra... if someone has alternatives I am happy to change to something else
[19:13] <bekks> lepel101: Just told you about an alternative.
[19:14] <lepel101> thanks for the suggestion bekks,  I'll check it out right away
[19:14] <akik> lepel101: another one is x2go
[19:14] <lepel101> yes sorry,  I type too slow in my old age :-)
[19:14] <lepel101> thanks akik,  will check that out as well
[19:15] <akik> lepel101: x2go and nxclient don't connect to existing x sessions though
[19:16] <lepel101> hmm,  so for my use case,  after a network error,  I would lose my work just the same with those alternatives?
[19:17] <akik> lepel101: no. i meant that if you're running a x session on the remote server at first, x2go and nxclient can not connect to it
[19:17] <akik> lepel101: but they create a session which can be suspended and resumed later
[19:17] <OnceMe> ok EriC^^now im ready to install win 8
[19:17] <lepel101> ok, that sounds fine then, thanks :)
[19:18] <OnceMe> in bios I see my usb at first for boot sequence and then I see ubuntu with no UEFI icon on it and then I see my real HDD with UEFI on it
[19:18] <akik> lepel101: it's like a graphical screen session if you know gnu screen?
[19:18] <JimmyNeutron> Dyzem, does wired work?
[19:18] <OnceMe> is that the good boot sequence? Or I should move my real disk with UEFI on it before ubuntu which has nothing
[19:19] <OnceMe> EriC^^ ?
[19:19] <EriC^^> OnceMe: no, that's fine
[19:19] <OnceMe> ok
[19:19] <Dyzem> JimmyNeutron, yes I'm running from wired right now. Absolutely no problems with wired.
[19:19] <lepel101> haven't used gnu screen,  only used regular ssh -X with java programs (probably vnc is used under the hood)
[19:20] <lepel101> do you have a personally preference for x2go or nclient, akik, bekks?
[19:21] <akik> lepel101: with gnu screen you can leave programs running on the remote server and detach your terminal, then resume those prorgrams at a later time
[19:21] <akik> lepel101: the programs keep on running the whole time
[19:21] <OnceMe> uhm EriC^^I get No device drivers were found.
[19:21] <JimmyNeutron> Dyzem, I find that most of my problems related to wireless are due to some compatibility issues on the driver not supported certain features.  Going to 802.11g on my wireless router vs 802.11b/g seems to help keep a stable connection
[19:21] <OnceMe> I think I need to put UEFI hdd before ubuntu which is not UEFI..?
[19:22] <lepel101> ok,  that sounds like another alternative then :)  what happens if you don't gracefully detach (i.e. due to a network error)?  can you still resume then?
[19:22] <akik> lepel101: yes
[19:22] <akik> lepel101: but gnu screen is only for text based terminal programs
[19:23] <JimmyNeutron> Dyzem, and even my 802.11n wireless, broadcom chipset, cant connect to my 802.11n wireless router...but downgrading it to 802.11g works fine and stable
[19:23] <Dyzem> JimmyNeutron, Ah right. Mines is just on auto right now. I don't seem to have the option of purely 802.11g though. Only 802.11b or 54g AUTO/LRS/Performance.
[19:24] <lepel101> aha, ok,  looking into x2go and nxclient/nxserver then (do you have a between thosepreference?)
[19:24] <JimmyNeutron> Dyzem, Try newer drivers or beta drivers for your wireless chipset
[19:24] <OnceMe> now ubuntu disk in bios become UEFI
[19:24] <OnceMe> however I cant see my usb :(
[19:25] <akik> lepel101: nxserver/nxclient is a product of nomachine corp. there's a free version called freenx but it's probably not developed anymore. x2go is still being developed
[19:26] <OnceMe> EriC^^:?
[19:26] <lepel101> alright,  I'll give x2go a try first then,  thanks a lot for the help!  really appreciate it,  this really could save me countless hours
[19:26] <OnceMe> I see two kingstons now
[19:26] <OnceMe> one is UEFI and one is not
[19:26] <OnceMe> should I pick UEFI one?
[19:27] <OnceMe> EriC^^:?
[19:32] <OnceMe> eh Ill try tomorrow when I have more time
[19:32] <OnceMe> cya tmrw EriC^^
[19:32] <OnceMe> I think my usb is corrupted from some reason but its a fresh win8
[19:48] <dmor> Hello all, how are you?
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> dmor  this is the ubuntu support channel
[19:49] <dmor> Is it possible to ask a technical questions related to network-based installation of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[19:49] <daftykins> yes
[19:49] <coto> holaaaaaa
[19:50] <coto> Holaaaaaaa
[19:50] <coto> alguien?
[19:50] <daftykins> coto: english only please.
[19:50] <daftykins> !cl
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> !es
[19:50] <daftykins> hmm we have no chile :D
[19:50] <coto> xd
[19:50] <coto> sorry
[19:50] <dmor> I'm using Foreman to install Ubuntu 14.04. Foreman itself installed on 14.04.1, but when I install the machines via Foreman, they being installed as 14.04.3 (using my country local mirror). Is it possible to install specific minor version? I've tried to understand the mirrors links, without success. Your support will be really apprecaited.
[19:51] <bekks> dmor: Everything older than 14.04.3 is outdated for 14.04
[19:51] <daftykins> dmor: why do you prefer 14.04.1 ? you need to remain up to date
[19:51] <bekks> dmor: So basically you want to install 14.04.3
[19:51] <bekks> AND you want to update your 14.04.1 server :)
[19:51] <dmor> It's for a client of mine. He has a product which based on 14.04.1.
[19:51] <dmor> Is it technically possible?
[19:52] <bekks> dmor: Only if you run your own 14.04.1 repo
[19:52] <dmor> How's the mirrors works in Ubuntu LTS? does each minor version has it own URL?
[19:52] <OerHeks> dmor, if you compile it yourself, yes.
[19:52] <bekks> dmor: minor versions arent in the repos anymore.
[19:52] <dmor> bekks: how can I do it? using apt-repo? I don't anything to sync except maybe the 14.04.1 iso itself, right?
[19:53] <bekks> dmor: wrong.
[19:53] <dmor> I'll be happy to learn.
[19:53] <bekks> dmor: the repos contain far more software than whats on the iso.
[19:53] <dmor> How can I sync the repo of 14.04.1?
[19:53] <OerHeks> dmor, you wast your time finding out, and such request is not supported.
[19:53] <bekks> dmor: There is no repo for 14.04.1 anymore.
[19:53] <dmor> Thanks for the answer.
[19:54] <dmor> I've tried.
[19:54] <daftykins> dmor: does it specifically need the older kernel of 14.04.1, or is it deeper than that?
[19:54] <daftykins> dmor: bearing in mind 14.04.3 tends to install with 3.19 kernel and 14.04.1 uses 3.13
[19:54] <dmor> I really appreciate your help.
[19:54] <dmor> Yeah. I'll explain that to my client. thanks. is there a way to use 14.04.3 with the 14.04.1 kernel?
[19:55] <daftykins> yes, not sure about your setup but you can install from 14.04 / 14.04.1 media then dist-upgrade
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> dmor  explain to your client that 14.04.1 is outdated
[19:55] <dmor> Thanks a lot.
[19:55] <dmor> Got it
[19:55] <dmor> I really appreciate your help.
[19:55] <dmor> All the best for now!
[19:56] <Bashing-om> dmor: My input. If you install 14.04.1 you can remain on the 3.13 serieis kernels .
[19:56] <Bashing-om> series*
[19:57] <dmor> 10x Bashing-om
[20:03] <justin____> hello
[20:03] <daftykins> lo
[20:04] <justin_k> what is up
[20:04] <OerHeks> justin_k, moon or the sun, but this is ubuntu support
[20:24] <Eyo> can someone please help me with correcting dependencies? https://bpaste.net/raw/6a7cce13c5ca the root of the problem is this https://bpaste.net/raw/e2f7ca0d385b I wanted to just remove gcc/build-essential and reinstall but now it won't let me
[20:25] <daftykins> Eyo: try removing with "sudo dpkg -r <package>"
[20:25] <Bashing-om> Eyo: Look'n ,
[20:25] <OerHeks> Eyo, seems like you are on Utopic ?
[20:26] <OerHeks> = 14.10
[20:28] <Eyo> I'm on elementary os :p
[20:28] <Eyo> daftykins: already tried that
[20:28] <daftykins> oh lawd
[20:28] <daftykins> !elementary
[20:28] <daftykins> Eyo: sorry, ask them :)
[20:28] <OerHeks> Eyo, oh, that explains it
[20:28] <Eyo> hey, the package system is the same
[20:28] <daftykins> sorry, it has its' own problems
[20:28] <Eyo> like?
[20:28] <daftykins> not being ubuntu
[20:29] <OerHeks> That gcc 4.9.1-16ubuntu6 is an old package, not sure if Elementary still uses it
[20:29] <Eyo> I installed that
[20:29] <Eyo> with dpkg
[20:29] <OerHeks> Eyo, goodluck
[20:29] <Eyo> I was on 4.9.1-0ubuntu1 before
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> Eyo  we don't know what the elementary devs changed to make it elementary
[20:30] <croziors> i have upgrade ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04  but apache2 now not work
[20:30] <daftykins> croziors:  kg
[20:30] <daftykins> oops
[20:30] <Eyo> there's no difference in the package system
[20:30] <TJ-> The 4.9.1-16ubuntu6 is from vivid; 4.9.1-0ubuntu1 is from trusty-updates ... VERY broken
[20:30] <daftykins> croziors: big configuration changes between those two, you need to edit your host files most likely and check your log files
[20:30] <daftykins> croziors: your apache log will tell you what is wrong in the configs
[20:30] <OerHeks> Eyo, utopic is EOL here, those packages are old, we dn't know how to help you.
[20:30] <TJ-> Eyo: but, it isn't Ubuntu. We support Ubuntu, not Elementary, the same as #debian supports Debian but not Ubuntu
[20:31] <Eyo> 10/10
[20:31] <Eyo> wtg guys
[20:31] <Eyo> #elementary is dead
[20:32] <Eyo> #ubuntu won't help
[20:32] <daftykins> you could install Ubuntu, we'd help gladly then
[20:32] <Eyo> but I already have ubuntu
[20:32] <daftykins> Eyo: sorry but this is on you, not us
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Eyo  #ubuntu *can't* help
[20:32] <Eyo> MonkeyDust: excuses
[20:32] <bszabo> Hey folks
[20:33] <Pici> Eyo: theres also ##Linux for distro-agnostic help
[20:33] <k1l> !elementary | Eyo
[20:33] <Bashing-om> Eyo: Install 'buntu . then we will support . Alternately, ubuntuforums.org also offers support for all linux .
[20:33] <k1l> or ##linux
[20:33] <bszabo> I just upgraded from 14.04.3 to 15.04 and I am running into two problems:
[20:33] <Eyo> Pici: thanks!
[20:33] <bszabo> 1) Systems suspends after logging in while docked
[20:34] <croziors> http://pastebin.com/3U9sMxEz
[20:34] <k1l> croziors: "Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory"
[20:34] <bszabo> 2) Logitech H390 headset no longer properly recognized - it shows up as C-Media Electronics, Inc.  "Lync Audio Device"
[20:34] <daftykins> croziors: yeah so line 214 of apache2.conf refers to a file that doesn't exist, resolve that
[20:36] <jog1> Hi all - can anyone help? My google chrome keeps crashing and creating a Ubuntu system which is read only, and I don't know how to get it fully RW again
[20:37] <daftykins> i don't think chrome would make your file system change to read only
[20:37] <daftykins> likely something is wrong with your disk, do you use an HDD or an SSD, jog1 ?
[20:39] <gwr053> I used DISKS in Ubuntu 15.04 to create an ISO of a Blu-Ray movie.  It copied it to HD fine.  Now I want to burn it back to a blank.  Will that work?
[20:39] <jog1> daftykins, it definitely did cause read-only, and chromium won't launch now either, and neither will firefox
[20:39] <daftykins> gwr053: unlikely
[20:39] <jog1> i use an hdd
[20:40] <daftykins> jog1: ok and which ubuntu is this?
[20:40] <jog1> 3.13.0-66-generic kernel
[20:40] <jog1> linux mint 17 qiana/ubuntu 14
[20:40] <daftykins> oy vey
[20:40] <jog1> I'll update to whatever if it will help
[20:40] <gwr053> I got it to restore to a USB drive. Why won't it work with a blank bluray?
[20:40] <daftykins> alright well technically you shouldn't be in here for Mint questions, because they're not the same, but i'm going to be charitable just briefly...
[20:40] <jog1> it was the last lts
[20:41] <Lauenceb_> hi
[20:41] <jog1> it's not a mint q - it's a ubuntu - it's running an xubuntu desktop version right now
[20:41] <daftykins> jog1: run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then "sudo smarctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[20:41] <Lauenceb_> I have a problem, I need to fix metacity
[20:41] <daftykins> jog1: if it's Mint, it's Mint - i don't care :)
[20:41] <Lauenceb_> nohub metacity --replace &
[20:41] <Lauenceb_> isnt doing anything for me
[20:41] <Lauenceb_> what gives?
[20:41] <jog1> daftykins, it started as ubuntu, i added mint, and xubuntu and lubuntu a while back, and now it's all things combined
[20:42] <TJ-> Lauenceb_: what is "nohub" ? is it a typo for "nohup" ?
[20:42] <daftykins> jog1: that's nice, can you run the commands?
[20:42] <jog1> it gave error
[20:42] <Lauenceb_> nohup yes
[20:42] <jog1> invalid api-dev-key
[20:42] <Lauenceb_> sorry
[20:42] <jog1> and smarctl wasn't found
[20:42] <jog1> i assumedyou meant smartctl
[20:42] <Lauenceb_> --display=0      ?
[20:43] <daftykins> jog1: ah yep, honest typo.
[20:43] <daftykins> cat is on my lap :P
[20:43] <jog1> daftykins, still getting bad api req
[20:43] <ipoxfred> can anyone join the offtopic channel and ask what did I do?
[20:44] <Pici> ipoxfred: you can join #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss your ban.
[20:44] <daftykins> jog1: signs of out of date, run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" and pastebin it manually to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:44] <ipoxfred> Pici, its plain stupid to beg a stranger to let me in a channel
[20:45] <daftykins> ipoxfred: i suggest you follow procedure and ask where is appropriate.
[20:45] <jog1> daftykins, no browser works, so i can't paste it
[20:45] <daftykins> alright i'll need my fellow helpers advice on an alternative
[20:45] <daftykins> what's the termbin thing guys? :D
[20:46] <jog1> daftykins, can't create files because system read-only
[20:46] <zo1nks> hello
[20:46] <jog1> daftykins, open a private channel with me here so I can paste in there for you?
[20:46] <daftykins> jog1: you don't need to create a file, just run a program and throw some text online, give us a minute
[20:46] <jog1> pastebinit won't work - keeps giving error
[20:46] <TJ-> jog1: "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:46] <zo1nks> is my text visible to you?
[20:46] <daftykins> TJ-: ty :)
[20:46] <zo1nks> am i visible?
[20:47] <TJ-> zo1nks: Yes
[20:47] <daftykins> zo1nks: no, we're just waiting for you to ask a question instead of state nonsense
[20:47] <gwr053> What I want to do is backup a Blu-Ray DVD. No way to do it in Linux.
[20:47] <zo1nks> perfect thanks (sorry for being such a noob) im new to irc
[20:47] <daftykins> gwr053: there are questions of legality on that, so sorry, can't help
[20:47] <TJ-> daftykins: I *think* I remembered Eric's favourite termbin stanza correctly :)
[20:47] <daftykins> :D
[20:47] <zo1nks> are there any channels for "fun chat" e.t.c
[20:47] <daftykins> !alis | zo1nks
[20:47] <zo1nks> in order to get used to irc
[20:48] <TJ-> zo1nks: #ubuntu-offtopic ... sometimes
[20:48] <bprompt> zo1nks:      check http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode   for channels :)
[20:48] <zo1nks> thanks #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:48] <bprompt> zo1nks:   and yes, we can see you :)
[20:49] <jog1> daftykins, pastebinit keeps giving "bad api request, invalid api_dev_key"
[20:49] <daftykins> jog1: yes we established that several minutes ago, can you now run what TJ- shared?
[20:50] <jog1> yes - http://termbin.com/0wwg
[20:50] <daftykins> hmm, disk health looks mostly ok
[20:51] <jog1> the disks are fine
[20:51] <jog1> it's chrome that crashed or altered something in the kernel i think
[20:51] <daftykins> jog1: interesting that you should say this given the state of errors in the table in that data
[20:51] <daftykins> browsers do not edit the kernel :P
[20:51] <TJ->  jog1 show us "cat /var/log/kern.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:52] <jog1> http://termbin.com/dd1w
[20:53] <daftykins> mmm unhappy graphics drivers
[20:53] <TJ-> jog1: are you running the OS from a USB device?
[20:54] <jog1> no
[20:54] <daftykins> two mechanical HDDs, hmm
[20:55] <daftykins> jog1: "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:55] <OerHeks> API mismatch: the client has the version 340.93, but this kernel module has the version 304.125
[20:55] <jog1> http://termbin.com/impr
[20:57] <daftykins> jog1: at this point i would recommend running memtest
[20:57] <jog1> should I switch the nvidia driver to 340 from 340-updates?
[20:57] <jog1> daftykins, the memory is fine
[20:57] <TJ-> jog1: fix the nvidia driver mismatch, and also it might help to fix the missing TV capture card firmware
[20:57] <jog1> i thought i had disabled the tv capture card
[20:57] <jog1> TJ-, recommend cli commands?
[20:58] <TJ-> jog1: the nvidia API mismatch could cause issues since the browsers will be trying to accelerate some operations via WebGL/OpenGL which the nvidia driver provides.
[20:58] <jog1> TJ-, that's likely the issue
[20:58] <jog1> TJ-, please advise more specifics
[20:58] <daftykins> you should purge all nvidia* and reinstall something else
[20:59] <daftykins> i find it odd that you draw assumptions about the state of your hardware when you don't even know for sure
[20:59] <jog1> daftykins, I know for sure it's not the hdd or mem
[20:59] <daftykins> why? :)
[20:59] <TJ-> jog1: how did you originall install the nvidia drivers? using ubuntu-drivers there should be no mismatch between kernel module and the userspace libraries
[21:00] <jog1> because the issue only happens when recently running upgraded chrome/chromium/firefox
[21:00] <jog1> and i upgraded the nvidia driver, too with 3... 66 kernel
[21:00] <jog1> so it's one of those several culprits. the hardware is fine.
[21:00] <daftykins> alright, but bear in mind it wasn't very hard to check now was it? :)
[21:00] <jog1> i used drivermanager gui
[21:00] <TJ-> jog1: "pastebinit <( apt list nvidia* | grep installed )"
[21:01] <jog1> TJ-, bad api
[21:02] <jog1> TJ-, trying termbine
[21:02] <jog1> didn't work
[21:02] <jog1> typo in pastebinit bash command?
[21:02] <daftykins> dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:02] <daftykins> ?
[21:03] <jog1> daftykins, thx -- http://termbin.com/lsg5
[21:03] <daftykins> not sure it's quite what TJ- wanted mind you
[21:04] <TJ-> does the same job ... just confirming that its debian packages installed both versions
[21:05] <daftykins> mint nvidia-prime, it's a laptop right jog1 ?
[21:05] <daftykins> HP Pavilion?
[21:05] <TJ-> jog1: it looks like it needs a purge of nvidia-304 ("sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304") which *ought* to remove the DMS kernel module
[21:05] <jog1> hp pav
[21:05] <jog1> TJ-, doing so..
[21:06] <OerHeks> jog1, mint ppa ?
[21:06] <daftykins> some kind of hybrid install :)
[21:06] <TJ-> jog1: and then "sudo dpkg --configure nvidia-340-updates" *ought* to generate the nvidia-340 kernel module
[21:07] <jog1> TJ-, ok
[21:07] <OerHeks> i think you need to use ppa-purge that mint ppa to correct your nvidia-issue.
[21:07] <jog1> TJ-, says alrady configured / installed
[21:09] <TJ-> jog1: OK, generate the module manually then: "sudo dkms install -m nvidia-340/340.93 -k $(uanme -r)"
[21:09] <jog1> says it's a g86/geforce 8500 gt.. should I use 340 instead of 340-updates? or xerver--nouveau instead of all?
[21:10] <jog1> TJ-, could not find module source.. Directory: /usr/src/nvidia-340-340.93 does not exist
[21:12] <adrian15> Can I assume that any Ubuntu installation has /bin/bash ? Thank you.
[21:12] <daftykins> i think it'd be safe to, yeah
[21:12] <jog1> TJ-, I am in the DRiver Manager gui, I am selecting the 340 nvidia driver, and I will apply and then reboot, and come back to the channel and see if that improves.. ?
[21:12] <k1l> adrian15: yes
[21:12] <TJ-> jog1: looks like the package isn't installed correctly. OK, yes, hopefully that might fix it
[21:12] <k1l> adrian15: but default is dash
[21:13] <OerHeks> jog1, did you add a Mint PPA ? just wondering about that nvidia prime package.
[21:13] <OerHeks> or you are on mint
[21:13] <jog1> OerHeks, I am not sure if the ppa is still active
[21:13] <jog1> OerHeks, should I turn off the mint ppa if any?
[21:13] <OerHeks> i think you need to use ppa-purge that mint ppa to correct your nvidia-issue.
[21:14] <OerHeks> just turning off does not reverse to the original packages
[21:14] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[21:14] <jog1> OerHeks, i'll try
[21:14] <jog1> OerHeks, it seems to be still running some mint programs
[21:22] <jog1> r
[21:22] <jog1> TJ-, didn't work
[21:23] <jog1> chrome just crashed again. still..
[21:24] <jog1> TJ-, and it's all read-only again as wel
[21:26] <jog1> daftykins, you still here?
[21:26] <jog1> OerHeks, still here?
[21:27] <daftykins> yes, personally i'd boot to a live session, fsck the disk - then handle some package management after
[21:28] <jog1> daftykins, how does that help?
[21:28] <jog1> it's the package mgt which is the issue
[21:29] <daftykins> jog1: i had a feeling you were going to question my reply.
[21:29] <jog1> just trying to learn
[21:29] <daftykins> i don't really trust your install since it's this weird mash-up hybrid
[21:30] <k1l> did you use ppa-purge for that PPA?
[21:30] <jog1> it is a mashup at this point, because some people kept telling me to try mint v ubuntu v xubuntu v lubuntu
[21:30] <jog1> so i did
[21:30] <Dyzem> I downloaded a new icon set and quite like it but my current theme conflicts with the panel icons (both light icons and light theme). Is there any way to change only the panel icons but not the other icons?
[21:30] <daftykins> Mint is a distro though, not a DE as you seemed to word it
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> jog1  next time, try them in a virtual machine
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> as*
[21:30] <Ru_Lingu> Newbie ubuntu here, hi! :)
[21:30] <Ru_Lingu> I mean, linux
[21:30] <jog1> daftykins, de?
[21:31] <daftykins> desktop environment
[21:31] <k1l> jog1: that is one of the reasons we cant support mint in here. they drag some depencies and other stuff with their PPA. so its not up to ubuntu if that fails.
[21:31] <daftykins> jog1: if you're still booting read only you need to discover why
[21:31] <jog1> daftykins, not booting read only
[21:32] <jog1> it's fine when boots. it only goes read only after chrome crashes
[21:32] <daftykins> oh ok
[21:32] <jog1> thus not hardware
[21:32] <k1l> jog1: show a "dmesg | pastebin"
[21:32] <daftykins> i did not say anything about hardware, why do you jump to these conclusions?
[21:32] <daftykins> (not this time at least)
[21:32] <k1l> jog1: show a "dmesg | pastebinit" (sorry typo)
[21:32] <jog1> daftykins, i figured why the pastebinit was bad api.. the command is pastebin, not pastebinit :)0
[21:33] <jog1> http://paste.linuxmint.com/view/ow19
[21:33] <daftykins> no it is not, it's pastebinit - but you're running Mint
[21:33] <jog1> and they changed it?
[21:33] <jog1> :-#
[21:33] <daftykins> so at this point i'm going to have to say you should go to their channel for help, or reinstall with actual ubuntu if you want help here
[21:33] <daftykins> !mint
[21:34] <jog1> daftykins, won't ppa-purge make it pure xubuntu/ubuntu?
[21:35] <daftykins> you can try what you like, i don't know what you did from the beginning
[21:35] <k1l> jog1: so it was a mint install where you installed xubuntu-desktop?
[21:36] <k1l> jog1: "lsb_release -a | pastebinit"
[21:36] <jog1> k1l, it was ubuntu first, then i tried mint, and then i tried xubuntu and lubuntu
[21:37] <jog1> daftykins, it was ubuntu first, then i tried mint, then xubuntu, then lubuntu
[21:37] <k1l> Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-66-generic root=UUID=12a1f73c-e0f3-4f24-87a8-f9635d88bb2e ro
[21:37] <k1l> so it boots ro from the start
[21:37] <daftykins> jog1: don't tell me.
[21:38] <daftykins> k1l: i was under the impression that's normal on all systems
[21:38] <daftykins> oh it's being handed the UUID and saying ro o0
[21:38] <goddard> I have some trash in my can that can't be deleted.
[21:38] <goddard> 2015-08-19 03:47:37 /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[21:38] <goddard> 2015-08-19 03:47:54 /boot/efi/EFI/antergos_grub
[21:39] <TJ-> k1l: 'ro' is standard
[21:39] <k1l> daftykins: hmm, seems like ro boot is standard, yes
[21:39] <jog1> TJ-, the nvidia reboot didn't work.. did you have any other possible idea?
[21:39] <fallkin> hi am i in a help server
[21:39] <daftykins> yes
[21:41] <TJ-> jog1: it seems there's something different Mint does; you'd need to investigate what it is.
[21:41] <jog1> TJ-, mint was supposed to be such a smoother version of ubuntu.. but it's not..
[21:41] <daftykins> that's the lie they sell everyday
[21:42] <jog1> how can I get this xubuntu more pure without reinstalling everything? I really just need to get my browser to work asap
[21:42] <daftykins> nope, it's a mess now
[21:43] <stobix> Heh. I think my system is kinda broken right now. "command not found: init"
[21:43] <daftykins> if you're using a separate /home it'd be a quick reinstall from good media
[21:43] <jog1> daftykins, i believe i am...
[21:43] <jog1> how should i check?
[21:44] <daftykins> df -h
[21:44] <daftykins> or "mount"
[21:44] <mbach_> how can I use "gpg2 --gen-key" with ubuntu?
[21:44] <coffeeguy> heh any known issues with the new kernel update?
[21:45] <mbach_> there's an interference with keyring
[21:45] <jog1> daftykins, it is.. but maybe i should try the newest kernel first?
[21:45] <k1l> coffeeguy: what issues?
[21:45] <daftykins> jog1: no, those are real stretches of the imagination - your install is hosed, nuke it from orbit asap
[21:45] <coffeeguy> just wondering if there were any to keep an eye out
[21:45] <daftykins> coffeeguy: we don't know what you're running
[21:46] <coffeeguy> ubuntu 14.04.3
[21:46] <jog1> daftykins, but if i'm just going to nuke it, why not try it first anyway?
[21:46] <daftykins> jog1: you claimed to be pressed for time.
[21:46] <jog1> which i am
[21:46] <jog1> isn't there a simple install command for the newest kernel?
[21:47] <k1l> jog1: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic"
[21:47] <OerHeks> jog1, LOLS, now you want a kernel which is NOT fixing your issue
[21:47] <k1l> i would recommend to choose between mint or ubuntu and then safe the important data and then make a clean install.
[21:47] <daftykins> you're just spinnin' your wheels :)
[21:47] <jog1> OerHeks, i thought mint was ubuntu
[21:48] <OerHeks> seek support in the mint channels, or do a fresh install jog1
[21:48] <OerHeks> don waste our time please
[21:48] <k1l> jog1: again: mint is not ubuntu
[21:48] <k1l> if it was, it would be called ubuntu :)
[21:48] <jog1> distrowatch said it was part of the ubuntu family
[21:48] <k1l> jog1: i thought we were already past that.
[21:49] <jog1> it's not like i'm making it up.. anyway, yes, past that.
[21:49] <OerHeks> still wasting time ..
[21:49] <jog1> i'm just trying to get this pure ubuntu without nuking it
[21:49] <k1l> jog1: make a clean cut
[21:50] <Gerowen> jog1: I am just dropping into this conversation, but if you're trying to "convert" one distribution that used/uses non-Ubuntu repositories for its core system files, you're in for a LONG ride.  It would be faster to just back up your home directory (including all the hidden .appname folders with your application settings), write down what 3rd party apps you want to keep, and just do a clean install of Ubuntu.
[21:51] <daftykins> there we go, so multiple people saying the same thing now
[21:51] <daftykins> seeing as my word never cut it the first time i said things this evening :)
[21:51] <Gerowen> jog1: You could have a pure Ubuntu up and running in 30 minutes, the longest part would just be moving your backed up files back and forth.
[21:51] <daftykins> and given a spare /home jog1 won't even have to do that :)
[21:51] <daftykins> er separate, not spare
[21:51] <jog1> right, i have /home separate
[21:52] <coffeeguy> well anyhoo, ubuntu seems to be running like top with the kernel update i got this morning so Thank You :D
[21:52] <jog1> but there are a lot of third party apps to reinstall
[21:52] <daftykins> jog1: the quicker you get to it, the quicker you can be doing that browsing you need to get to.
[21:53] <jog1> sigh
[21:53] <OerHeks> In the hour you wasted here, you could easily do a fresh install.
[21:54] <jog1> thanks.. i'll be back
[21:56] <TashaSetsuki> Hello I'm running ubuntu 15.10 beta 2 and I was wondering if anyone was able to install any proprietary fglrx drivers on it?
[21:57] <daftykins> #ubuntu+1 for Wily please
[21:57] <k1l> TashaSetsuki: basically: that should be possible
[21:57] <TashaSetsuki> I looked it up and there are issues with fglrx and 4.2 kernel
[21:58] <daftykins> there are most always issues with AMD and everything :)
[21:58] <TashaSetsuki> I've reinstalled ubuntu 3 times in a row now because it keeps messing up when I install fglrx
[21:59] <k1l> TashaSetsuki: details matter
[21:59] <daftykins> TashaSetsuki: as i mention though, until 15.10 is released - please take it to #ubuntu+1
[22:00] <TashaSetsuki> How do I do that
[22:01] <allegorical> hi, sorry linux noob here... so i downloaded the jdk-8u65-linux-x64.tar.gz and ran 'sudo tar zxvf jdk-8u65-linux-x64.tar.gz' in /usr/java ... heh what do i do now ?
[22:01] <daftykins> don't install it from a tar
[22:01] <allegorical> okay sorry i just try to understand the tar stuff
[22:01] <daftykins> you're going to need to regularly update java since it's full of holes :)
[22:02] <daftykins> grab a PPA from somewhere like webupd8 with the java 8 installer
[22:02] <allegorical> so i should use the apt-get default-jdk something like that? ... oh
[22:02] <daftykins> !ppa
[22:03] <TashaSetsuki> Tried #ubuntu1 nothing. ..
[22:04] <daftykins> no, #ubuntu+1
[22:04] <k1l> TashaSetsuki: #ubuntu+1
[22:04] <TJ-> allegorical: which ubuntu release are you trying to install Java 8 in?
[22:04] <daftykins> "/join #ubuntu+1"
[22:05] <allegorical> TJ-: 14.04
[22:06] <TJ-> allegorical: I built openjdk8 for 14.04 as a test for backporting it to the main archive; you're welcome to try that
[22:06] <TJ-> allegorical: see: https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/java-for-14.04
[22:07] <allegorical> ok, thanks guys
[22:08] <MrNumber3isme> Hello room
[22:08] <daftykins> lo
[22:11] <MrNumber3isme> I am trying to connect my Ubuntu laptop to a home file server running Windows 7. When I hit browse network, I see a folder titled Windows network. I open it up, and I can see my server. I open the folder titled workgroup, and I can see the server. I try to open it it asks for my password, I enter the password windows gave me when I set up the network, but it still will not let me connect
[22:13] <daftykins> MrNumber3isme: that's a homegroup password, you should leave the homegroup to make use of inter-OS sharing
[22:13] <daftykins> the user+pass is a Windows username and password, not the homegroup password
[22:14] <MrNumber3isme> So my windows password should work?
[22:15] <daftykins> maybe, but as i say - leaving the homegroup is the best bet.
[22:15] <MrNumber3isme> What do you mean leave the home group?
[22:15] <daftykins> i mean literally that - go into the network and sharing center and you'll see.
[22:16] <daftykins> MrNumber3isme: you'll likely run into caching issues with win7 as a file server, it needs some registry tweaks to make it work properly.
[22:16] <MrNumber3isme> Network and Sharing Center on the Windows side?
[22:16] <daftykins> yes
[22:16] <daftykins> at best: it'll be slow, at worst: it'll disable its' own LAN Interface during high-throughput on gigabit LAN
[22:17] <MrNumber3isme> The only reason I got stuck with using Windows, is because every version of Linux that I have tried is extremely difficult to set up networking.
[22:17] <daftykins> i'd disagree with that
[22:18] <MrNumber3isme> Normally I would use Linux, but every version that I have used so far, or attempted to use did not want to work. So far I've had the best luck with Linux Mint, but for some reason it still did not want to connect or create a network
[22:18] <Gerowen> MrNumber3isme: I use GUFW for local software firewall and SSH for both remote logins and file transfer.
[22:18] <Gerowen> Easy peasy
[22:18]  * Gerowen heads out to eat dinner.
[22:18] <finetundra_> hey folks, I'm trying to connect to an irc server but I was told by irssi that I need to install identd. How do I do that?
[22:19] <Guest14810> anyone have an idea why the program kmymoney is so many versions behind in the repos?
[22:19] <Xeon3D> finetundra_ : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73203
[22:20] <daftykins> packaging takes time i guess, things aren't always the latest and greatest.
[22:20] <finetundra_> Xeon3D: thanks
[22:20] <RepThis1> Does Ubuntu have a section for linux forensics? I dont have alot of proper knowledge for a thing like this and the methodology or process. This vm has been purposefully tampered with and the things i know off the bat to check are users bash history, wtmp files, trying to figure out which users are real or fake and ect. And suggested resources would be fantastic.
[22:22] <daftykins> RepThis1: probably someone that does that work for a living if it's serious :)
[22:22] <Xeon3D> finetundra_ : if that doesn't help then this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1223822
[22:23] <RepThis1> daftykins: nothing serious, just participating in a cyber defense competition. They were smart and deleted most of the bash history so it kinda puts me at a dead end. I know theres a nice scripted command like "find /directory -newer /tmp/from ! -newer /tmp/to" to find edited files within a date range but more stuff like this to know about would be awsome.
[22:23] <daftykins> that's not a legitimate task then, sorry.
[22:25] <TJ-> RepThis1: we don't have a Forensics section, but if you're doing a cyberchallenge, start with logs, timestamps of key files, hashes of installed versus package files, content of deleted blocks in the file system
[22:26] <geomyidae_> oh I know, let's try an upstart question again. How do I use initctl to stop a post-start script of a service?
[22:26] <geomyidae_> initctl stop <svc name> fails since the service isn't running... it's a task
[22:27] <TJ-> geomyidae_: what service is it?
[22:27] <geomyidae_> my own that I'm authoring.
[22:29] <TJ-> geomyidae_: pre-stop should terminate anything long-running from post-start
[22:30] <geomyidae_> so that would be `initctl pre-stop <myservice>` ? I already took more destructive actions to unblock myself.
[22:30] <mrubuntu> That time will be 15.10 available to download? :)
[22:30] <TJ-> geomyidae_: although generally, its not good practice to have background/long-running processes start in the pre/post script stanzas
[22:30] <mrubuntu> what*
[22:31] <daftykins> mrubuntu: 2 minutes past when it's done o'clock
[22:31] <geomyidae_> TJ-: it's normally not meant to be long running, it just loops until it downloads a tar and the tar url was bad. Probably a good point that it shouldn't infinite loop in that case.
[22:31] <geomyidae_> anyway, thank you! :)
[22:32] <mrubuntu> oh sorry, i forgot that in usa is still 21.10 :C
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> mrubuntu  the usa span more than 1 timezone
[22:33] <mrubuntu> can i download daily build now and tomorrow it will become stable?
[22:33] <daftykins> yes just update
[22:48] <bk_> quick question, prob been asked a million times... what time GMT is the new release going to be avaliable?
[22:48] <daftykins> bk_: when it's done o'clock
[22:51] <bk_> anyone here?
[22:52] <daftykins> bk_: yes - and when it's done o'clock
[22:52] <daftykins> as i said :)
[22:52] <bk_> no kidding
[22:52] <daftykins> if it's installed now you could just update when it's done and be current.
[22:53] <bk_> intall what? beta 2?
[22:53] <daftykins> whatever is in the topic of #ubuntu+1
[22:54] <bk_> How do I get to #ubuntu+1?
[22:54] <daftykins> "/join #ubuntu+1"
[22:54] <bk_> Is there a URL?
[22:54] <bk_> oh
[22:55] <bk_> ok daily live current cd... right?
[22:55] <daftykins> could work
[22:57] <bk_> It son't seem like may people are chatting here. Pepole just keep joining ang leaving.
[22:58] <daftykins> bk_: it's not a chat channel, it's a support channel. no chat = no questions
[22:58] <bk_> oh my bad
[22:58] <bk_> do know if there is a chat channel for ubuntu?
[23:00] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:00] <bk_> thanks!
[23:14] <DaylightDandy> Hello all. Nothing original here, I have really tough issue on an acer extensa 5620Z where Ubuntu Mate 15.04 and Ubuntu 14.04.02 hang at shutdown. I have disabled quiet booting and tried pretty much every acpi and reboot kernel options to no avail. It just hangs there at "Stopping disk". If anyone could help, I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
[23:18] <compdoc> we only handle original problems, sorry
[23:20] <OerHeks> someone mentioned blacklisting acer-wmi for some issues..
[23:20] <OerHeks> i try to find that post.
[23:20] <DaylightDandy> compdoc, haha. Yeah, it's just that I have read so many reports/posts about that problem, I figured it's asked pretty often here :)
[23:20] <DaylightDandy> OerHeks, thanks
[23:23] <OerHeks> DaylightDandy, especially with atheros wifi cards, uefi and shutdown, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Aspire_One#ath9k_and_acer_wmi  i know this is an arch page,but applies to ubuntu also, it helped some users.
[23:24] <DaylightDandy> OerHeks, thanks a lot, I'll look into that. It's an older acer model, 2007-2008, so I'll see if it applies.
[23:28] <bp0> Mark Shuttleworth: [xerus] are fast, feisty, friendly and known for their enormous… courage.
[23:29] <bp0> Funny. http://www.wilkinsonsworld.com/wp-content/plugins/geo-mashup-custom/images/2009/12/DSC04147_wm.JPG
[23:29] <DaylightDandy> bp0, link made me laugh.
[23:30] <bp0> I think that's what he was getting at tho
[23:30] <daftykins> bp0: not on topic here.
[23:30] <bp0> its the name of next ubuntu release, announced today
[23:31] <bp0> how is it not?
[23:31] <DaylightDandy> bp0, yeah, that was on purpose.
[23:31] <daftykins> bp0: this is a support channel, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:31] <daftykins> bp0: don't argue rules in future
[23:32] <reisio> yes, one should never argue rules, just do as you're told, always :D
[23:33] <daftykins> 'xactly
[23:42] <^Mike> I'm on 15.04. When I boot with recent kernels (3.19.0-31 and -32) plymouth shows the password prompt for my encrypted root partition, but typing doesn't seem to get captured -- there's no dots in the text box, and entering the correct password doesn't decrypt the volume, the boot process just hangs there. But 3.19.0-28 is ok. What debugging steps should I do next?
[23:42] <gioans> hello
[23:42] <gioans> i am a new ubuntu
[23:42] <^Mike> skynet O_O
[23:42] <gioans> goodmorning
[23:42] <gioans> ^Mike: hello
[23:43] <gioans> ^Mike hello
[23:43] <^Mike> !ask | gioans
[23:43] <Bashing-om> !mamual | gioans Good place to start
[23:43] <Bashing-om> !manual | gioans Good place to start
[23:44] <gioans> i am looking for a application for my ubuntu, it is search other device with Mac address ?
[23:44] <gioans> the same GPS
[23:45] <OerHeks> ^Mike, i have seen simular bugreports, with more issues than your encrypted login, like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1503647 and
[23:45] <^Mike> gioans: What's your native language?
[23:45] <daftykins> gioans: on your network? nmap
[23:46] <gioans> English
[23:46] <gioans> i am sorry, my language is Vietnamese
[23:46] <^Mike> OerHeks: that's definitely unrelated -- thanks though
[23:47] <gioans> daftykins: the software on my ubuntu
[23:47] <^Mike> hmm, no channel for Vietnamese
[23:47] <OerHeks> ^mike, the laaunchpad team considdered https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-vivid/+bug/1503704 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1503655 also as related
[23:47] <daftykins> gioans: what?
[23:48] <gioans> ^Mike: i understad English
[23:48] <^Mike> OerHeks: extremely definitely not related :)
[23:48] <^Mike> gioans: OK. When we can find other people who speak the same language, people often prefer that.
[23:48] <^Mike> gioans: Can you repeat your question for me?
[23:50] <gioans> I was looking for a location search software and equipment needs through their mac address
[23:50] <covertoverdose> can you explain a little better?
[23:50] <^Mike> Sorry, I don't know about anything like that.
[23:50] <gioans> I want to change my ubuntu into a security device
[23:51] <gioans> ^Mike: don't worry about that! thanks
[23:52] <daftykins> gioans: hmm nope too hard to understand you
[23:52] <covertoverdose> i've joined mid convo so i don't know what it is you have or what you're trying to do/find out
[23:52] <^Mike> OerHeks: /this/ is it, I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1501205
[23:54] <gioans> i am Vietnamese, i know Eglish very litter!
[23:54] <maddawg2> litter?
[23:54] <maddawg2> lol
[23:54] <maddawg2> clearly
[23:54] <daftykins> well that made my night
[23:54] <covertoverdose> you may have to speak with someone who speaks your language.
[23:55] <gioans> alittle