[00:27] tsimonq2: I have seen that option on real HW. You can either have guided, where it offers to resize, or custom, where you pick a partition. [07:19] hola [07:42] allee: about akonadi/logging in bug, is there bug filled? [07:54] wait what, mark actually decided on a release name BEFORE a release @_@ [08:26] and a damn weird name too [08:33] at least it's easy to type, we had worse [08:39] Hello my lovelies [08:39] Is it Wily dya ? [08:42] Kubuntu 15.10 survived without issues a very important business presentation, hadn't tested the external display support of this before so I was happy [08:56] hmm, well editing the kubuntu.org website seems to be broken [08:56] that's quite a pain for release day [08:56] anyone able to confirm what happens if you go to https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/ ? [08:57] Riddell: https://kubuntu.org/wp-login.php ? [08:59] yofel: ah hah, it moved [08:59] hm [09:00] ovidiu-florin: as we use OpenID login, could we map LP team memberships to website permissions? i.e. -members -> editors, -council -> admins [09:29] https://kubuntu.org/?p=2436&preview=true for those who can see it === vinay is now known as Guest5425 [10:07] I get a 404 on https://kubuntu.org/?p=2436&preview=true [10:08] mparillo: you'd need to log in, it's not public yet [10:11] I did login with my open ID to: https://kubuntu.org/wp-login.php then https://kubuntu.org/?p=2436&preview=true and still a 404. It might be a permissions issue. [10:15] hmm, could be [10:31] it is, by default everyone seems to be a plain user, which isn't very useful. Hence my question about applying the team memberships [10:57] hello [10:57] Hiyas all [10:58] helo [10:58] hello [10:58] downloading kubuntu 15.10 [10:58] :) [10:58] hi BluesKaj [10:58] Hi cortex_ [10:59] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10 [10:59] 404 [11:04] I imagine the news is suspended til the 15.10 release is official [11:07] yes [11:07] it's being pushed to mirrors now http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.10/release/ [11:07] but where's the front page banner? [11:08] I've no idea how to change it [11:09] Riddell, is that image any different than yesterday's Final test release? [11:09] nope [11:09] ok [11:09] ahoneybun: you had a new banner? [11:09] ovidiu-florin: how do we change the banner? [11:10] the panel takes about 45 secs to load after the desktop appears here [11:18] damn [11:18] it crashes [11:18] on kde startup [11:18] for me [11:18] freeze [11:18] from usb stick [11:19] can't tty.. [11:19] and something [11:19] live media or actual installation? [11:19] live media [11:20] weird [11:33] cortex_, best to wait for the official release image [11:33] Ok [11:44] Riddell: I believe this is the one to use [11:45] https://trello.com/c/AJbkAVWW/98-update-background-photos-on-social-sites [11:46] Riddell: do we put it up now? [11:47] not yet, I don't think it's out yet [11:47] but soon my good man soon [11:48] but I've no idea how [11:48] on kubuntu.org at least [11:49] Riddell: I'm pretty sure I'm looking at how to do it now [11:49] I see the old one [11:55] Riddell: the banner is part of the theme [11:55] ovidiu-florin: uh oh [11:55] you change it from the theme settings [11:55] is there a ui to change it? [11:55] yes [11:55] phew, I was worried it needed a request to sysadmins [11:56] Riddell: do you want to cjamge it? [11:56] or should I ? [11:56] damn keyboard [11:56] ovidiu-florin: not yet [11:57] Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-04/ should use the banner Andrea made [11:57] Riddell: https://trello.com/c/AJbkAVWW/98-update-background-photos-on-social-sites [11:57] good point [11:57] and this: https://trello.com/c/RYC7YHZ3/87-change-site-banner-from-5-3-wallpaper-to-5-4 [11:57] Riddell: also [11:57] we have 2 banners [11:57] main one and general one [11:57] main is just on the main page [11:57] general is everywhere [11:57] I posted that one [11:57] ... [11:58] the werewolf one? [11:58] https://trello.com/c/AJbkAVWW/98-update-background-photos-on-social-sites [11:58] main one [11:59] I know [12:00] I can change in in the next 15 mins but then I need to leave for work [12:00] OMG Ubuntu says Ubuntu is released: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-15-10-download-review-new-features [12:00] yea [12:00] what's the status of Kubuntu? [12:02] omg always announces early, it's very irresponsible [12:04] well, the images are up, so if our download links are in order we could announce it [12:05] nah, that would piss off the release team lots [12:05] so it's not released officially yet? [12:05] but the iso's are public? [12:05] and I always try not to annoy people [12:05] indeed [12:05] ovidiu-florin: yes and yes [12:06] I just don't always seem to succeed [12:06] Riddell: you're not the only one [12:06] ovidiu-florin: right, the isos get pushed out to mirrors a few hours before announce [12:06] if the iso's are up, what is everybody waiting for? [12:07] who gives the final Go? [12:07] hm, KTP just opened a dozen windows to tell me that my password for the resource that I don't use is wrong while I'm offline - I need to uninstall that thing again [12:07] ovidiu-florin: more mirrors to pick them up [12:08] ovidiu-florin: and I guess ubuntu has the same issues of checking their website is ready to update as everyone else [12:08] I'd like to update the general banner in the meantime [12:08] is taht ok? [12:08] that* [12:09] ok [12:10] point it towards a page that says "nearly there" [12:10] it's a general banner [12:10] it's an background image [12:11] that apears behind the titles on nonmain page, pages [12:11] it's a crop from the Plasma 5.4 wallpaper [12:12] Dome [12:12] Done*** [12:12] that's it [12:12] I'm switching keyboards [12:14] aaaaa [12:14] back in business [12:46] ETA is roughly 5 minutes [12:49] ovidiu-florin: will you also replace homepage banner image ?> [12:49] yes [12:49] ovidiu-florin: cool, please make it wider this time [12:50] https://trello.com/c/AJbkAVWW/98-update-background-photos-on-social-sites [12:50] ~ 1920px [12:50] soee: ^ [12:52] nice, though it is 1600px wide [12:54] 1920x1080 is the second screen size used these days http://www.rapidtables.com/web/dev/screen-resolution-statistics.htm / http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp [12:54] so we should have banner this size [13:04] the banner is not full width [13:04] Riddell: ETA? [13:05] when infinity finishes his lunch I guess [13:13] flocculant: It's all in the hands of our IS people setting up some cloud redirection magic. I'm hoping "soon". [13:47] muon (master) v5.4.2-43-gf014566 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend (2 files) [13:47] Remove Appstream packages that haven't been found [13:47] Shit happens, let's be verbose and non-crashy about it. [13:47] http://commits.kde.org/muon/f0145664913a28f99ec3f4a17b34ef9c43b41069 [13:54] almost one hour later: Riddell ETA? [13:54] Riddell: still waiting for cloudfront redirect so that the release doesn't melt the DC - just escalated [13:55] although canonical pr have started pushing out stuff so I guess we can too [14:11] ovidiu-florin: go go! [14:11] how's this? https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10/ [14:11] mparillo: ↑ [14:12] good exposure for that new wallpaper [14:15] congrats for the release [14:16] About the email to ubuntu-release: 22-16:15 < infinity> teward|web: I shouldn't have sent it, apparently, but was only told that 30 seconds after I pressed send. ;) [14:17] Yay! On to 16.04! (hopefully?) [14:18] not for me I'm afraid, I'll step down now [14:18] Riddell: That is too bad :( [14:18] Riddell: Darn, that sucks. Any idea on who will succeed you? [14:19] yeah it is a shame [14:19] A shame indeed. [14:19] @kubuntu-dev-team: congratulations on the Wily release :D [14:22] I think Kubuntu is the highest-quality KDE distro out there, and I would really hate to see it go away. You guys rock. [14:23] Riddell, I'm very sorry to hear that, are you still gonna hang around kubuntu-devel or kubuntu in general ? [14:23] I won't be going far [14:23] dunno if or when I'll leave these channels, it probably would help me focus if I did, but it's hard :) [14:24] well, i hope you stick around for a while [14:26] Riddell: so, then it's probably time to ask what I have to do if I plan to take over your position as release manager? Do I need to apply for something? [14:27] yofel: join ubuntu-release channel and mailing list and sign up on release tasks I guess :) [14:29] well, I'm in the channel for ages already, so ML I still need to do and actually pay attention to it [14:34] mparillo: in here? [14:35] how's this for kubuntu.org? I'd like to address that audience directly http://embra.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.text [14:36] valorie: ↑ for when you wake up [14:38] Sorry Riddell: I ran my little perl script and generated this (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12894327/) and updated the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu) with it. Good news is that the list is shorter. [14:39] thanks marco-parillo, updated https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10/ [14:40] Should I now wipe the wiki release notes. [14:41] marco-parillo: yeah can do [14:42] hello guys [14:42] is it fixed ? [14:42] i had a freeze [14:42] on kde startup [14:46] Do you have the wiki open for edit? [14:46] Riddell: ^^ [14:48] and now on to 16.04 ! :-) [14:49] marco-parillo: nope, but I guess I did [14:49] We testers are never happy an release becomes official, it's not edgy enough :-) [14:50] when a releas becomes oifficial, that is [14:52] Per our usual standard, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu contains nothing more than a pointer to the news page. [14:52] Riddell: Nicely worded step down message. === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley === sebas_ is now known as sebas === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter === Mirv__ is now known as Mirv [15:17] Who did the video? [15:17] that's pretty cool! [15:20] mgraesslin: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/10/21/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t22:50 lucass_ ok here is the link https://youtu.be/oWzSxyZu0ac [15:21] aweseme, we need to "hire" lucass_ for Plasma 5.5 ;-) [15:21] It is really sweet indeed :D [15:24] well, it still takes 45 secs for the panel to load after the desktop appears [15:24] /var/log/syslog shows nothing [15:25] BluesKaj: that is after splash screen ended? [15:27] mgraesslin, no, after the desktop loads [15:27] BluesKaj: you shouldn't see the desktop loading, that should be hidden behind the splash screen [15:28] mgraesslin, the splash screen loads normally, as does the desktop, it's just the panel that's slow [15:29] BluesKaj: so it is after splash screen ended [15:29] also the panel loading should happen before splash screen ends [15:31] yes I'm aware of that, but 45 secs after the splash ends is bit too long compared to a week ago. [15:31] ok, BBL ..stuff to do for a few mins [15:36] mgraesslin: lucass turned up last night with it all completed, he's the chap on the VDG forum who's done similar videos before. seems he's also the mystery g+ account KDEOK [15:37] Riddell: the last part I got from the IRC log already ;-) === g4mby is now known as PaulW2U [16:02] Riddell: about akonadi-login-delay: Dan Vratil is at the moment at the end of a slow Internet connection (13h++ to download wily iso). Can we offer him a virtual machine where he can start a plasma session to debug akonadi misbehaviour? [16:03] And : Congrats to the Kubuntu-devel team for the great wily release!! [16:07] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-110-g9239e6e * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/FeaturedBanner.qml [16:07] Add drop shadow to the carroussel items [16:07] http://commits.kde.org/muon/9239e6e82c12f0964f7ddb1e37c1ccbc2212af32 [16:07] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-111-g912c380 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/Information.qml [16:07] Show only 3 items in the carroussel [16:07] http://commits.kde.org/muon/912c380f9655d02629a7736d3b129b6acfc55256 [16:07] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-112-gac8915c * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/FeaturedBanner.qml [16:07] Desaturate non-current items in the carroussel [16:07] http://commits.kde.org/muon/ac8915c0d99d928bc69818d90ffd65681a58569f [16:07] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-113-g6401c72 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (6 files) [16:07] Change grid item border size to 1 [16:07] http://commits.kde.org/muon/6401c722010995385c69d6f979df06216c4cff4a [16:07] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-114-ga6e0ae8 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/CategoryView.qml [16:07] Add a margin on top and bottom of the categoryview [16:07] http://commits.kde.org/muon/a6e0ae822abf6ffdbaa2c1db3f2cd296f3062d79 [16:07] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-115-g225b85b * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/ApplicationsList.qml [16:07] Remove random sizes in the ApplicationList delegate [16:07] http://commits.kde.org/muon/225b85b7fa4bc7f0792949632cc85a6796523928 [16:07] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-116-g9e4b133 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (3 files) [16:07] Show a small title grid with "All" and the amount of items [16:07] http://commits.kde.org/muon/9e4b1334371203510c00cfc95ab9e551d23aff85 [16:30] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-117-gf22cea7 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (3 files) [16:30] Improve CategoryDisplay [16:30] Make it possible to change the sizes from outside [16:30] Leave the same spacing between all items [16:30] http://commits.kde.org/muon/f22cea74d24b58b815ee345052c68424ab0fc42a [16:30] muon (redesign) v5.4.1-118-g9c739ae * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/PageHeader.qml [16:30] Add a margin on top of the PageHeader [16:30] http://commits.kde.org/muon/9c739ae88555088541b19fc96e5f2e78f6681301 === wendar_ is now known as wendar [16:54] Riddell: You are certainly some tough shoes to fill. Kubuntu's loss is a major gain for KDE. Passion such as yours is a trait not found in most. Good luck my friend, and I'llk look forward to your posts on Planetkde.org. [16:57] The sha256 sums on the Get Kubuntu page are missing. Not sure who's the best person to inform... [16:57] ahoneybun ovidiu-florin : ^^^ [17:44] Updated the main banner [17:44] on the main page [17:44] soee: waiting for Andrea to make a bigger one [17:44] ahoneybun: you around? [17:45] I don't know how to make the sha256 sums [17:45] do you? [17:45] yofel: ? [17:46] 15.10 upgrades failing in some circumstances due to bug #1493003 [17:46] bug 1493003 in ktp-accounts-kcm (Ubuntu) "15:10: /usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service provided by two packages, causing upgrade failure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1493003 [17:48] ovidiu-florin: which sums? [17:48] of the isos [17:48] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/wily/release/SHA256SUMS [17:48] they are missing from the download page [17:48] can I copy paste from there? [17:48] and put them on the download page? [17:48] Riddell: I understand why you are steping down and I regard it as bad thing. that being said, I will be very happy to send patches to kubuntu automation to implement the design we discussed the other day so you could start re-using the thing in neon [17:48] I think that's what we did so far [17:48] ok [17:49] can u fix the problem [17:49] of kde startup? [17:50] weird [17:50] idk why [17:50] it freeze [17:50] all the machine [17:50] from usb stick [17:50] live media [17:51] Riddell: also note that I have experience providing a set of custom kde packages in siduction, so if you need support with any technical aspect of "providing a ppa without launchpad" I could help you a bit [17:51] Hi, I have a packaging bug to report [17:52] so basically, the package kde-config-systemd installs the kcm shared object to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/, but it should be installing to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kcm_systemd.so [17:52] when it's in the former, systemsettings doesn't find it [17:54] santa_: out of curiosity, what are you using for that? reprepro? [17:54] clivejo: sha fixed [17:54] yofel: reprepro + wannabuild + buildd [17:55] reprepro just provides the repository but doesn't build packages [17:55] urgh wannabuild [17:55] buildd does using the wannabuild database [17:55] yeah [17:55] switch to debile? ^^ [17:55] probably a better alternative but I didn't have time to dig into a possible migration [17:55] but ok, yeah, something like that works [17:56] yes, one thing I could offer is help with wannabuild+buildd until you find something else better [17:56] denza242: that's on vivid? Because I have: [17:56] $ dpkg -L kde-config-systemd [17:56] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kcm_systemd.so [17:57] yofel: vivid indeed [17:57] yofel: also I have a fork of your build status page thing, modified to work against wannabuild [17:57] hm, that might be useful, right [17:57] and last but not least my automation thing [17:58] I would really love to merge it with kubuntu's one and make it more robust and generic [17:58] so we would have one automation thing to rule them all [17:58] denza242: ok, it's fixed in wily. Do you need it in vivid? [17:58] yofel: not particularly [17:59] I mean, I just mv'd it to the proper directory as root [17:59] er, cp'd [17:59] ok, thanks for caring in any case === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [18:47] the heck is with that "Feedback" section ovidiu-florin? [19:02] trying to upgrade and kdinit errors abound [19:06] along with kio-slave errors. Not looking optimistic atm. [19:07] and my distribution-upgrade window is hosed. how to best proceed? [20:43] can someone transalte to PL this: Xenial Xerus ? [20:45] You have stumped me and https://www.google.com/search?q=google+translate&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en&gws_rd=ssl [20:50] EN -> PL gives: Xenial Xerus [20:50] :D [20:53] soee: https://www.google.pl/search?q=xerus&oq=xerus&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.1332j0j9&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8 ;) [20:54] "wielki wiewiór"? :-) [20:55] wspaniały? [20:57] m-w and wiki says it is "gościnny" [20:59] Riddell: I think your piece is lovely [20:59] if sad [20:59] {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} [21:00] !isitoutyet [21:00] It's out! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - download at http://ubuntu.com/download/ [21:00] :-) [21:10] Riddell's piece? [21:12] clivejo: I believe she's referring to http://embra.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.text [21:16] i see [21:43] valorie: I added an extra paragraph for a version to go to ubuntu-devel@ http://embra.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/kubuntu.text [21:57] do u guys want to know about wily upgrade installer bugs here, or just via regular launchpad issues? [23:30] gah, incredible the number of people who think they are smarter than thou, not readin what is written on teh screen, apparenlty release day is no a day I want to continue linger in #kubuntu [23:30] gn8 everyone, congrats on the release [23:47] Riddell: please leave out the "I don't have high hopes" [23:48] although I agree with you that I don't have high hopes either [23:48] * valorie will be gone in a few mins until Saturday night for SeaGL [23:48] picking Scarlett up at the train station tonight [23:52] muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.2-5-gdbf64fc * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/ApplicationBackend/ApplicationNotifier.cpp [23:52] parseUpdateInfo() does not correctly account for securtity updates [23:52] CCBUG: 347284 [23:52] REVIEW: 125749 [23:52] http://commits.kde.org/muon/dbf64fc4e07a6ed5eccf16cf116eb8590e5007ea