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Guest56564guten morgen00:38
Guest56564kann mir jemand helfen conky zu installieren00:38
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ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!00:56
barmaleywhere is it?01:00
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sinsixanybody awake?03:22
sinsixwell if so , using an old work horse pc , 1400 mhz core two duo pnetium with 2 gigs of ram03:23
sinsixusing ltr 14 atm03:23
sinsixwas gona pick up a new ssd next week03:24
sinsixcheap sandisk 120 gig , curious if anybody thinks the newerr with plsma could run ok on it03:24
sinsixor should i stick with the older lts version03:25
sinsixhmm alot of people silent for prime time lol03:26
* sinsix smacks everybody with a large trout03:27
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sinsixhmm i assume around a hundred people in here and not a peep03:28
sinsixmaybe webchat people, are blocked?03:29
sinsixreally anbody alive?03:32
sinsixhmm maybe a webchatter started some being rude and admin blocked msges?03:33
rodolfojcjabout what UTC hour of october 22, is it supposed to officially see the new Kubuntu 15.10 release?04:06
excalibrrodolfojcj, I believe some mirrors have already received the iso04:08
rodolfojcjI'm doing an aptitude update right now04:09
rodolfojcjhere where I live is october 21 yet04:09
th3s3_3y3sthey cant nak me unless they have a time constraint to hold against05:54
th3s3_3y3s0 dimensional root05:56
th3s3_3y3sif they can't keep tract of time waggafinger shows up to an empty room05:58
th3s3_3y3slisten light can be an opposing force06:00
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s: What does this have to do with Kubuntu support?06:01
th3s3_3y3swell aren't you vader?06:02
lordievaderth3s3_3y3s: I'll take that as a 'nothing'. I'd like to point you to #kubuntu-offtopic.06:02
lordievader!offtopic | th3s3_3y3s06:02
ubottuth3s3_3y3s: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:02
th3s3_3y3sI've had the machine to download skype about 5 times and it fails every time.06:27
th3s3_3y3sthe hackers are trying to kill you06:52
hateballth3s3_3y3s: Do you have a support question, or are you looking for a ban?06:52
th3s3_3y3sthe lowmen at meetups06:53
acolomboany news on what time 15.10 will be released?08:46
lordievaderacolombo: Today \o/08:50
lordievaderTime when it is ready.... Subscribe to the annouce mailing list ;)08:50
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BluesKajHiyas all10:57
freeroutehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.10/final/ - not workie :(11:23
hateballIt's not released yet, so11:23
freeroutehateball: so this is unofficial? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/wily/release/11:25
hateballfreeroute: nope11:26
lovinamn'google links Linux11:26
hateballfreeroute: it's just not officially "released"11:26
freeroutewill there be a release party?11:26
freeroutewill there be cake?11:26
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases11:27
ubottuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Saucy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2534/11:27
hateballhaha, saucy. that's well old11:27
freeroutelol oldskool11:27
BluesKajfreeroute, I had to install my gpu driver in VT before i could get a desktop11:27
freerouteBluesKaj: VT? Were you installing it on virtualbox by any chance?11:28
BluesKajVirtual terminal/TTY11:28
freerouteoh ok11:28
BluesKajno VMshere11:28
freerouteI tried to install Fedora 22 minimal on vbox with @kde-desktop package group, but I couldn't get X running because of a supposed vbox bug.11:30
freeroute(affects most recent kernels and recent versions of xorg)11:30
freeroute(according to the people at #fedora)11:30
BluesKajhah you've been listening to PSIJack11:31
freerouteif it was, then he used the disguise of fenrus02 and linuxmodder11:33
freeroutesomething about vbox video driver not being loaded or something11:35
BluesKajhis fav OS is fedora and spouts about it in ##linux all the time11:36
freerouteheh yeah, I figured I would give it a try, but I couldn't, especially because they provided the KDE-without-the-apps install.11:36
freeroutebut I couldn't even get the damn thing to start a graphics session :p11:37
BluesKajnot an rpm fan, the packaging wasn't to my liking, but that was a while ago, maybe it's less clunky now11:38
freeroutethey have dnf now, but I haven't really used it extensively yet to know how well it works.11:39
freerouteI really liked that during install there was a tmux session in TTY111:39
freeroutewith logs and everything11:39
hateballI could swear there was a channel for offtopic banter11:41
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PETSoundsWhat's new in Kubuntu Wily?13:51
marco-parilloYou could wait a bit, but here is a not-ready-for release preview: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu13:54
marco-parilloAnd, as usual, OMG Ubuntu wants to be first: https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/65715211812654284813:55
marco-parilloOr you can just grab it now (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.10/release/) and write your own review, but please do not post until the announcement.13:57
PETSoundsnice, downloading now13:58
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=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | Kubuntu 15.10 https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10/
Riddell15.10 is out https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10/14:14
rodolfojcjexcellent news!!14:15
rodolfojcjthanks for your constant and great work14:15
Riddellit has been a pleasure14:16
EvilRoeyRiddell:  thank you!!!!14:16
jesperhtRiddell: Thanks, you rock :)14:20
marco-parilloTY Riddell for the past work. Also thanks for grabbing most of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu14:20
Riddellmarco-parillo: most? didn't I grab it all14:20
marco-parilloExcept for the Draft-Not for release14:21
rodolfojcjreading the 15.50 announcement, I have curiosity for exploring the new LibreOffice 5.014:21
marco-parilloBut, one question: I have not re-run the open bug list query in a while. Did you?14:21
Riddellmarco-parillo: no I didn't check over those, would be worth doing14:22
marco-parilloRiddell: I ran my little perl script and generated this (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12894327/) and updated the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu) with it. Good news is that the list is shorter.14:33
Riddellgo in -devel14:34
amichairRiddell: congrats! and thanks!14:35
SylvieLorxuJust curious, is the header of the homepage going to be changed? It currently still says Kubuntu 15.04 + Plasma 514:55
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Linus__hi my users!15:07
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, valorie, shadeslayer, or txwikinger15:07
lordievaderThank you Pici15:08
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jubo2Now on Kubuntu15.1015:40
jubo2but I've no sounds15:40
jubo2it may to do with me mounting the old /home partition onto /home and now there are some settings conflicting in such a way that the autodetection of the audio HW went wrong15:41
jubo2or this is what I figure what happened15:41
jubo2Looks very nice but lack of sounds really bummers15:42
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jubo2how do I probe for the sound HW15:43
jubo2and install the driver15:43
jubo2at least I think this is what I want to do15:43
jubo2should I install again without mounting the /home partition and then mount that later on ?15:46
jubo2one would expect the installation to detect the built-in15:47
jubo2though 15.04 also detected the auxiliary sound card in addition to the internal15:47
jubo2can't see the audio device in 'sudo lspci -v'15:54
jubo2My current theory is that the installer mounted the /home partition too early on and got some shit settings from there ( originally a Kubuntu15.04 installations /home partition )15:55
jubo2I can try the installation again without including the "mount /dev/sda7 as /home" but if it is useless I'd rather not15:56
jubo2now I now15:57
jubo2I try the live version and see if that sees my sound HW15:57
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jubo2now in Kubuntu15.10 live and the internal sound card is working just fine16:04
jubo2could someone plos confirm my theory that the broken settings from my /home partition of the Kubuntu15.04 are obstructing the audio HW from being detected at all16:05
jubo2I thought this was the #kubuntu support channel16:08
s_20jubo2: IRC support means you may have to wait for some time16:09
sick_rimmitI think you have something with you /home partition16:12
jubo2me too16:13
jubo2there are broken settings over there16:13
sick_rimmitIf you boot back into your machine again, you could try running alsamixer from the terminal16:13
sick_rimmittry it now in the live version16:13
jubo2I am asking in what sequence the audio HW detection and the mounting of the old /home partition happen16:13
sick_rimmittake a look at the various channels and their settings16:13
jubo2sick_rimmit: it is all looking good, the alsamixer16:14
sick_rimmitI don;t think its HW detection, that's taken care of by the kernel module loader16:14
sick_rimmitTo check that for sure you could take a look at the output from lsmod16:14
jubo2sick_rimmit: I think I looked at lsmod on the installed OS and it did not list any audio devices16:15
sick_rimmitCould be worth trying alsamixer in  the installed env, see if it simply switched something off16:15
jubo2with Kubuntu15.04 detecting both at install time16:15
jubo2ok. I reboot there and connect bakc16:15
jubo2'alsamixer' displays the card correct16:28
jubo2but I don't hear anything16:28
jubo2I don't see any audio devices in 'lspci -v'16:30
lordievaderjubo2: Could you pastebin the output of 'lspci -k'?16:31
jubo2sure thing16:31
jubo2lordievader: http://pastebin.com/nX30Q4LF16:32
jubo2there I see an audio device16:32
lordievaderjubo2: Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)16:32
lordievaderKernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel16:32
lordievaderjubo2: What is the problem?16:33
jubo2no audio16:33
lordievaderjubo2: What does 'aplay -l' return?16:33
jubo2it sees both the internal and the external cards16:34
lordievaderOkay, which one do you want to use?16:34
jubo2that's difficult to answer16:34
jubo2whenever there is no external connected I wanna use the internal and when there is then the external16:35
lordievaderRight, so you want to use the external one. What does 'pactl -l' return?16:35
jubo2getting either one to play some sound would be an advancement on the current situation of no sound16:35
lordievaderErr 'pactl info'*16:35
paologas91hi guys16:36
jubo2lordievader: pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused16:36
lordievaderjubo2: Are you executing that command from root or do you not run Pulseaudio?16:36
jubo2lordievader: I exectute it as a normal user16:36
lordievaderSo pulseaudio ain't running? (ps aux|grep pulse)16:37
jubo2not running16:37
sick_rimmitLooks like you've found the trail to follow16:37
jubo2yeah but trailblazing bass is missing16:38
lordievaderjubo2: Okay, we'll sidestep for a second.16:38
lordievaderjubo2: Could you give me the output of 'aplay -l' anyways?16:39
ubottumadmanwithabox: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:39
jubo2lordievader: http://pastebin.com/dP6A4ctR16:39
lordievaderjubo2: I suppose you want to use the MobilePre?16:40
jubo2I want to use both16:40
jubo2when the MobilePre isn't hooked up the internal and when it is the external16:41
lordievaderjubo2: I know, the internal will be used as fall back but lets not focus on that right now. Could you give the output of 'aplay -L' too please?16:42
jubo2lordievader: http://pastebin.com/uMw8R8v416:43
lordievaderjubo2: Do you hear something when you execute "aplay -D front:CARD=MobilePre,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" (Path might not be entirely correct)16:45
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jubo2lordievader: I don't even see or hear the "adjust volume" graphic and associated sounds16:46
lordievaderjubo2: What?16:46
jubo2It says "aplay: set_params:1239: Channels count non available"16:47
BluesKajthink the fron_center is a speaker path not a line level or preamp level path16:47
lordievaderjubo2: Hmm, make it "aplay -D front:CARD=MobilePre,DEV=0 -c 2 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav"16:48
KhaoticKonversation sucks16:49
jubo2Konversation FGJ16:49
lordievaderKhaotic: Then use something else, you are free to choose ;)16:49
jubo2lordievader: says the same "channels count non available"16:49
Khaotici know16:49
Khaotici just wanted to mention that16:49
Khaotici use hexchat16:49
lordievaderjubo2: Right, was afraid of that.16:49
BluesKajKonversation rocks!16:49
Khaoticbut hexchat doesnt work with systray in 15.0416:49
Khaotici am considering upgrading to 15.10 today16:50
KhaoticBluesKaj, konversation keeps disconnecting me16:50
BluesKajKhaotic, maybe your settings are incorrect16:50
Khaotici like the ui though16:50
Khaoticthey arent16:50
Khaoticsame settings i have in hexchat16:50
Khaoticsame servers and ports16:50
lordievaderjubo2: You might try "aplay -D plughw:CARD=MobilePre,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav"16:50
BluesKajKhaotic, which irc servers ?16:51
Khaoticfreenode and hak516:51
lordievaderWhoop hak5 \o/16:51
BluesKajKhaotic,  try card, dickson and kornbluth16:52
Khaoticwhat are those?16:52
danboidIs there a apt / dpkg equivalent to Arch's bacman, if anyone is familar with that? That's Bacman, not pacman.16:52
BluesKajhak5 ,,blrh16:52
lordievaderdanboid: Perhaps describe what Bacman does?16:53
Khaoticawww kubuntu hasnt upgraded to 15.10 yet16:53
BluesKajKhaotic,  https://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml16:53
Khaoticwell i use just irc.freenode.net and im still connected in hexchat16:54
Khaoticbut in konversation it disconnects all the time16:54
danboidlordievader, bacman creates a package from a previously installed Arch package (for which you no longer have access to the original binary package)16:54
BluesKajnot here16:54
Khaoticand i hate how konversation doesnt id to nickserv before joining channels16:54
Khaotichexchat does16:54
lordievaderdanboid: Ah. No, no idea. Sorry.16:55
jubo2lordievader: that run witout errors but no sound was played16:56
lordievaderjubo2: Hmm, not anywhere?16:57
BluesKajKhaotic, it used to, but now one has make sure nickserv sees the pw in the server itself16:57
danboidI don't think apt and rpm can do this. When I found out about it recently I thought it was the coolest packaging feature I'd heard about in some time. It'd be nice to see this is the deb world too.16:57
KhaoticBluesKaj, what do you mean?16:57
jubo2not anywhere lordievader16:57
BluesKajKhaotic, not just in freenode16:57
Khaotici know16:58
lordievaderjubo2: Any channels muted?16:58
Khaotici set different profiles for each server16:58
Khaoticit's joins the channels before it IDs to nickserv16:58
jubo2lordievader: hitting the volume up and volume down doesn't give the volume adjustement see-through graphic16:58
lordievaderjubo2: That is rather unrelated.16:58
jubo2the System Settings there are no audio devices but the other commands seem to see the cards16:58
lordievaderjubo2: Go in alsamixer and make sure all channels are unmuted and max vol then try the command again.16:59
BluesKajopen edit in the server list and add your password there, for each server in the list16:59
lordievaderAlso make sure any automute is off.16:59
jubo2lordievader: automute was enabled17:00
jubo2does that matter17:00
lordievaderjubo2: No channels were muted?17:00
BluesKajjubo2, yes disable it17:00
jubo2what would I see if there were muted channels17:01
lordievaderjubo2: MM17:01
lordievaderjubo2: You want to see 10017:01
jubo2I see that17:01
BluesKajautomute mutes all channels, no mater what the othe vol ctls are set at17:01
jubo2except master is @ 4217:01
lordievaderjubo2: Set that to 100 too ;)17:01
jubo2BluesKaj: I disabled it now17:02
jubo2no sound17:02
lordievaderjubo2: You may also want to try 'hw:CARD=MobilePre,DEV=0' as an argument for -D.17:02
jubo2that says the "channel count not available"17:03
lordievaderjubo2: Guess it is time to start pulseaudio and mess around in pavucontrol.17:04
BluesKajjubo2, after making changes in alsamixer, escape then do, sudo alsactl store17:04
jubo2BluesKaj: run that. no effect17:04
BluesKajno output means it worked17:05
jubo2yeah but the aplay command runs and no sound is played. I meant that17:05
lordievaderjubo2: Actually I am interested does the '-D plughw:CARD=MID,DEV=0' argument get working sound on the internal card?17:06
Khaotic_ah that worked BluesKaj17:06
jubo2lordievader: Now the internal sound card says "Front, center" in noncaptivating tone.. but this is progress17:08
BluesKajjubo2, so you have pavutctl set to use the internal17:10
jubo2I've never touched pavuctl17:10
jubo2I don't even have pavuctl17:10
BluesKajoh I thought you mentioned it earlier17:11
BluesKajpavucontrol that is'17:12
jubo2so I should install that?17:12
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jubo2no package called pavuctl17:13
BluesKajonly if you think it will help, to me pulseuadio restricts outputs in complex audio setups17:13
jubo2I don't even know what I need PulseAudio for17:14
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions17:15
BluesKajjubo2, unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view pulseaudio is default on kubuntu17:16
jubo2I don't know what is the difference between ALSA/PulseAudio/JACK17:17
jubo2I just want it to work like I want it to17:17
lordievaderjubo2: Ok, so at least the internal works.17:17
jubo2if I use the aplay command17:17
lordievaderjubo2: Yes, install pavucontol.17:17
lordievaderjubo2: Then start pulseaudio and see if you can direct some audio to go to the external soundcard.17:18
BluesKajalsa can provide audio (it's the basic audio app) without pulseaudio, but pulseaudio needs alsa to run17:18
jubo2"Unable to connect to PulseAudio"17:18
jubo2lordievader: how do I start pulseaudio? 'pulseaudio &' ?17:19
jubo2pavucontrol sees both cards17:20
jubo2but will it play?17:20
BluesKajit should17:20
BluesKajit used play both cards on my pc when I had a m-audio as well an onboard17:21
jubo2now I'm hearing "plop-plop-plop" in varying volume levels based on the setting17:22
BluesKajjubo2, sometimes  sudo alsa force-reload works after making changes17:23
jubo2now the audio is on17:23
BluesKajlinux audio such a messy bunch of apps and servers17:24
jubo2but I cannot control it with the volume control keys17:24
BluesKajjudo you have kmix installed? that's another helper app that runs as an alsa gui17:25
jubo2BluesKaj: nope17:25
jubo2should I?17:25
BluesKajnot yet17:25
jubo2at least I can listen to audio while I receive help to fix this17:26
BluesKajjubo2, actually after all these settings changes the real test to see if they're sticky is to reboot17:27
samfreenodeHow do I upgrade pls17:27
BluesKajsamfreenode, from?17:28
samfreenodesudo apt-get dist-upgrade no work17:28
BluesKajsamfreenode, sudo do-release-upgrade17:28
tori_Hi everyone! My Kubuntu 15.04 fails to update to 15.10. I get an error after step 2 of the process. Removing 3rd party repos from package manager did nothing :(17:28
jubo2BluesKaj: so I reboot?17:29
BluesKajbut make sure you do sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade first17:29
tori_made a bug report as prompted, but perhaps you have more ideas? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/150902517:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1509025 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "System update from Kubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 fails." [Undecided,New]17:29
samfreenodeBluesKaj, Thanks, upgrading now17:29
BluesKajjubo2, that's your call17:30
jubo2I prlly still need to 'pulseaudio &' after reboot=17:31
jubo2I reboot17:31
jubo2audio works after 'pulseaudio &' but volume controlls are not functional17:35
BluesKajjubo2, install kmix , you'll see the same vol ctls as alsa, but in a handy gui17:37
BluesKajand youKB volctls might work, mine do17:38
lordievaderjubo2: If pulse audio ain't started use: pulseaudio --start17:38
BluesKajthe default pulseaudio vol ctl in the panel is useless17:38
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BluesKajthe kmix vol settings link directly to alsa17:39
jubo2This are the errors I get when running kmix: http://pastebin.com/tvpeUUQ2 BluesKaj17:39
lordievaderjubo2: If you are using pulseaudio you should use the new volume manger which interfaces with pulseaudio.17:40
jubo2now the audio control shows up but that controls the internal (and is audible in the internal) while the external sound card is playing uneffected by the control17:41
lordievaderjubo2: Btw, can I conclude from the backlog that through PA the external card works?17:41
jubo2lordievader: yes17:42
lordievaderNice ;)17:42
jubo2now I disconnected the external and sound is playing from internal and controls are responding17:43
lordievaderMakes sense.17:43
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jubo2I reboot17:43
lordievaderjubo2: By the by the pa applet should list all sound cards.17:44
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jubo2I wish this stuff would just work17:47
jubo2now I rebooted and 'pulseaudio --start' and the external nor the internal ain't saying anything17:48
denza242oh uh, I have a packaging bug to report17:48
jubo2now I disconnected the external and no audio is saying anything17:49
denza242so basically, the package kde-config-systemd installs the kcm shared object to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/17:50
lordievaderjubo2: By the by the pa applet should list all sound cards.17:50
lordievaderFor me it even lists networked cards.17:50
denza242it should be installing to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kcm_systemd.so17:50
marco-parillodenza242: you would have a bigger audience in #kubuntu-devel for that kind of thing.17:51
jubo2lordievader: what is the "pa applet" ?17:52
lordievaderjubo2: The new kmix thing which interfaces with PA.17:52
lordievaderShould be there by default.17:52
BluesKajjubo2, you need to decide which audo card/chip is default (card 0) in system settings>multimedia>device preference17:53
samfreenodeBluesKaj, omg why is it taking so long17:53
denza242marco-parillo: posted there17:53
jubo2BluesKaj: that just shows "PulseAudio server" as the only alternative17:53
jubo2lordievader: BluesKaj: this is getting more bizarre17:54
BluesKajbummer, now you know why i don't use pulseaudio, that one of the reasonsa17:55
jubo2using the internal sound card the internal speakers work but if I connect the stereo jack the audio goes away17:55
BluesKajtoo many audio cooks in linux-audio17:56
BluesKajwhat is the stero jack connected to?17:56
jubo2I agree17:56
jubo2BluesKaj: a functional stereo set17:56
lordievaderjubo2: Sounds like automute is on again.17:57
BluesKajand it's an analog out to line level rca type plugs?17:58
BluesKajautomute should off since he disabled it already17:58
jubo2it wasn't17:58
BluesKajjubo2, the analog out on the soundcard shorts out the internal speakers, it seems that's a mechanical delberate short18:01
jubo2with random hacks and sprinkling magic dust I potentially can get some sound out of this machine18:02
jubo2BluesKaj: yeah.. but the way we are all used to it is that if you connect a 3.5mm jack all audio goes there18:02
jubo2now nothing goes there18:02
tori_A small request: I attached in my bug report a list of packages currently on my system. I don't know what/how to clean it up to prceed with my upgrade to 15.10. Plese take a look - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/150902518:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1509025 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "System update from Kubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 fails." [Undecided,Incomplete]18:03
BluesKajjubo2, sounds like you need to reinstall pulseaudio and pulseaudio-utils, it should start by default18:03
jubo2I don't want pulseaudio. I want ALSA18:03
jubo2ALSA gets me what I want and this PulseAudio randomness does not get me what I want18:04
jubo2and before you yell at me.. I've seen Kubuntu15.04 that correctly displays the cards in the System Settings -> Multimedia and not just list "PulseAudio server" on all fields18:05
BluesKajalsa is there by default, you can run without pulseaudio18:05
BluesKajpulseaudo runs on top of alsa as a sound server like a middleman18:06
jubo2Yeah.. Well it'd be awesome to be able to be able to select the audio devices in System Settings but the only available setting is now "PulseAudio Server"18:09
jubo2BluesKaj and lordievader: you lot sure that me mounting the old /home partition does not cause the settings mess-up ?18:09
jubo2so if I installed again without telling it to mount /dev/sda7 as /home18:10
jubo2any chance that would lead to audio working normally?18:14
BluesKajjubo2, you can always do, sudo apt purge pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils :-) reboot and youll see all your audo devices in system settings again18:14
jubo2BluesKaj: I do that18:15
BluesKajjubo2, using separate / amd /home partitions won't change anything in your audio settings if you install to / and save your /home directory mount18:17
jubo2Now I'm in square one18:19
jubo2no audio, no audio devices in system settings, no pulseaudio18:19
lordievaderjubo2: You can simply check, comment the /home mount in fstab reboot and login (perhaps you need to create your homedir)18:20
jubo2Is it worth a shot to try reinstallation of the Kubuntu15.10 without specifying in the install-phase to include the /home partition18:20
jubo2lordievader: where can I access this fstab18:21
MoonUnit`in /etc/fstab18:25
jubo2reboot tiem18:25
misternoany news in kubuntu world18:30
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jubo2lordievader: the fstab change did not change a thing in System settings -> Multimedia18:31
BluesKajjubo2, open alsamixer18:31
jubo2I already mounted the home dir18:31
jubo2does that matter BluesKaj?18:31
BluesKajyes we need to see a screenshot in imagebin or imgur18:32
BluesKajneed to know what asla sees18:33
jubo2without the home dir being mounted or doesn't matter18:34
jubo2BluesKaj: ^18:34
BluesKajit should be mounted , always, it contains config files etc18:35
jubo2So I edit /etc/fstab and add it back in?18:35
BluesKajit should be mounted automatically if you set a mountpoint when you installed the OS18:36
jubo2I did18:36
jubo2but as per recommendation by someone I took it out18:36
jubo2I put it back and reboot18:36
jubo2I'm getting more and more certain that none of these troubles would show up if I didn't try to keep the old /home partition18:37
BluesKajnope , not true18:37
jubo2So why 15.04 detected everything like silk and 15.10 doesn't show any devices in the System Settings -> Multimedia18:39
BluesKajI always set the mountpoint for /home and install to / , and i don't have the problems you attribute to /old as you call it's properly configured when you update and upgrade after the install18:39
BluesKajwhoever told you to unmount /home is playing with fire afaik18:40
jubo2that'd be lordievader18:40
jubo2added it back18:41
BluesKajmaybe he knows what he's doing by unmounting /home, but i don't fool with that myself18:41
jubo2then I take screenshot of alsamixer18:41
SimoniousI don't seem to have php on my system..  apt-get install php doesn't work18:42
BluesKajSimonious, describe "doesn't work"18:42
BluesKajany errors or?18:43
jubo2what do I do now18:43
jubo2reinstall pulseaudio18:44
Simoniousblue - doesn't exist, now trying: sudo apt-get install mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql18:44
jubo2but I want ALSA without any PulseAudio garbage on it18:44
Simoniouswhich seems to be working18:44
BluesKajopen system settings first to see if any audio devices show up18:44
jubo2BluesKaj: none18:45
BluesKajok sudo alsa force-reload18:46
jubo2did that18:47
jubo2no change in system settings18:47
BluesKajthen cat /proc/asound/cards18:47
jubo20 is HDA-Intel18:47
jubo2not got the external connected atm18:48
jubo2I connect it again and see 'cat /proc/asound/cards'18:48
BluesKajok sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel18:48
jubo2BluesKaj: prints nothing18:48
jubo2I guess that is ok18:48
BluesKajyup, thatmeans it's loaded18:49
BluesKajok open alsamixer18:49
jubo2speaker is muted18:49
jubo2sure thing18:50
jubo2where do I post it BluesKaj?18:51
jubo2I don't remember what's the imagebin18:51
BluesKajimagebin or imgur18:52
jubo2BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/QjiMNnA18:53
BluesKajjubo2, is your usb device connected? if so is it listed in F6?18:56
jubo2BluesKaj: yes18:56
jubo2BluesKaj: 11118:56
jubo2accidental line18:56
jubo2every time I run alsamixer it returns the old values18:58
jubo2what was the way to save them18:58
BluesKajhave jubo2, make sure you alsa-base and alsa-utils installed18:58
BluesKajsudo alsactl store ,  is the command to save alsamixer changes18:59
lordievaderjubo2: Did you reboot after editing the fstab?18:59
lordievaderjubo2: So now you know it has nothing to do with your homedir ;)19:00
jubo2BluesKaj: nope.. running 'sudo alsactl store' doesn't save the alsamixer changes19:01
BluesKajjubo2, then you're missing alsa-utils I bet19:02
jubo2alsa-utils is the newest version19:03
SilentGhostdoes anyone know how to increase sensitivity of the touchpad? after upgrade i have to hit it really hard to register tap, the tap-and-drag doesn't seem to work at all19:03
BluesKajit's ther eof course otherwise alsamixer wouldn't work19:04
SadekHi guys, I have a problem with accesing a Live session user in new Kubuntu 15.1019:08
jubo2I think I gonna boot to Kubuntu14 and enjoy some music19:08
jubo2Thanks for the help anyways BluesKaj and lordievader19:08
SadekI also noticed this same problem in Beta 2...19:09
ofvjust upgraded to 15.10 and found that krunner has a massive memory leak19:10
ofvas I type, virtual memory usage grows by the tens of GB every few keystrokes19:10
ofvis this a known problem?19:11
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superfluffypunchHello all19:26
superfluffypunchplasma desktop died when I first boot up conky19:26
superfluffypunchnow the desktop is all black (except for conky and docky)19:26
superfluffypunchcan't access konsole19:26
superfluffypunchWhat to do? I want to bring up the console to kill conky and restart the desktop19:27
BluesKajtry the vt/tty19:27
superfluffypunchAlso Alt + F2 doesn't work. It brings up the dialog box for me to type19:28
superfluffypunchbut that's it19:28
superfluffypunchcan't even run anything from there19:28
BluesKajctl+alt+F1-F6 login and sudo apt update && sudo apt-upgrade then ctl+alt+F7 to back to the desktop19:30
superfluffypunchalright ill try that19:30
ofvit seems that the memory leak is caused by some search plugin. after disabling almost all of them virtual memory usage remains constant.19:33
superfluffypunchBluesKaj alright19:35
superfluffypunchit upgraded all the packages19:35
superfluffypunchI should go back and kill conky and restart plasma19:36
superfluffypunchis it killall plasma-desktop or killall plasmashell?19:40
superfluffypunch(kubuntu 15.04)19:41
superfluffypunch(to stop the process/service if it's already running)19:41
marktaffupgraded from 14.10 --> 15.04 --> 15.10 today, and kde is hosed. :-( It wouldn't even log in properly with a long delay, and once logged it, it hangs while launching an app, or just after launching it. As of right now, I can't even get a dm to come up.19:41
marktaffapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade shows all packages up to date.  The base system seems fine, and is accesible from ssh.19:42
BluesKajmarktaff, which gpu?19:43
marktaffBluesKaj: lemme check19:43
hostlyHi. Anyone upgraded to 15.10 yet? Any known issues?19:44
gschanuelhi folks19:44
gschanueli'm getting a lot of 404 errors on my 14.1019:44
marktaffBluesKaj: NVIDIA Corporation GK106 [GeForce GTX 660]19:45
marktaffhostly: it hosed my kde, working on the issue now, base system seems to be fone though, no known data loss19:45
gschanuelcan someone paste 14.10 sources.list ?19:46
geniigschanuel: It's EOL now19:47
marktaff14.10 sources were moved about a week ago (first I noticed)19:47
genii!eol | gschanuel19:47
ubottugschanuel: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:47
BluesKajmarktaff, looks like the nvidia-352  driver should work19:50
superfluffypunchI've gotten rid of conky20:10
superfluffypunchand the plasma desktop is still all black20:10
superfluffypunchWhen I run it in the terminal and do 'plasmashell &'20:10
superfluffypunchI get QXcbConnection: Can't connect to display20:11
superfluffypunchor something like that20:11
marktaffInstalling the nvidia-352 driver and reinstalling sddm made a vast improvement.  At least now I can use kde enough to see if there are any other issues. :-) Thank you BluesKaj20:23
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schestowitz<schestowitz> I need help...21:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> I am in the process of upgrading kubuntu21:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> to 15.1021:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> it reached around 80% while installing packages21:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> then the GUI thing became not responsive21:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> now the canvas of that window is not refreshing21:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> a process called "wily" is taking up about 3% of CPU, but I don't know if this means it's still doing work21:15
schestowitz<schestowitz> I think that when packages got swapped it caused some issues to something21:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> plasma-desktop, for example, if I restart it, now uses the newer version21:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> so...21:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> I'm thinking, it obviously didn't finish cleanup and setup21:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> it probably didn;t finish upgrading packages either21:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> at this stage I'm thinking, make full /home backuo21:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> then reboot and hope it still sort of works21:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> any advice, anyone?21:16
schestowitz<schestowitz> Upgrades as a bit dodgy business... and neither one in this transition is LTS21:16
amichairschestowitz: can u access a terminal?21:17
schestowitzall working ok21:18
schestowitzbut if I reboot, I don't know...21:18
amichairmaybe try "apt-get install -f" to fix any broken dependencies21:19
schestowitzthe upgrader just froze at around 80%, 50 mins left  (installing packages)21:19
schestowitzcheers, hang on while I try21:19
schestowitzwily uses dpkg21:19
schestowitzE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)21:19
amichairschestowitz: the GUI is probably holding that lock21:20
schestowitz"Distribution Upgrade" is what corresponds to wily in the windows-process sense I assume..21:20
amichairI personally wouldn't reboot with a half-installation, but try to complete the installation first21:21
schestowitzprocess wily is mared as [R]unning with 3.3% of the CPU21:21
amichairhow long has it been frozen for?21:21
schestowitzshould I kill the windows and rerun the whole thing (would that even be possible)?21:21
schestowitz*the window (Distribution Upgrade)21:22
schestowitzit has been forzen for half an hour21:22
amichairschestowitz: maybe u can peek at the installer logs to see where it got, and maybe what it got stuck on21:23
schestowitzI'd love to think or pretend to myself that it still installs packages in the background, but I doubt it, esp. with so little CPU usage21:23
* schestowitz looking21:23
amichairI think it was in /var/log/apt or something like that21:24
amichairor /var/log/dist-upgrade21:24
amichairthat would make more sense21:25
schestowitzI see a lot of grub stuff in system at around 21:44:3521:25
schestowitzwill see disto-updade21:25
amichairthere you have the logs by date, but also terminal log (I don't remember what's what, but worth checking out everything)21:26
schestowitzNo updates to files since it froze (see timestamp)21:26
schestowitz-rw-r--r--  1 root root    76262 Oct 22 21:48 main.log21:26
schestowitz-rw-r--r--  1 root root   417468 Oct 22 21:47 term.log21:26
amichairanything suspicious at the end of the log?21:27
schestowitzI can see the error21:27
schestowitz2015-10-22 21:48:24,074 ERROR not handled exception in KDE frontend:21:28
schestowitzTraceback (most recent call last):21:28
schestowitzthere is then lots of python stuff traced back21:28
amichairsounds like it confirms the gui indeed crashed21:29
schestowitzis there a way to run/complete/resume the upgrade from CLI?21:29
schestowitzlast line in logs (in case it helps kubuntu devs):21:29
schestowitz  File "/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-z170xzyt/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeViewKDE.py", line 339, in conffile21:29
schestowitz    self.confDialogue.show_difference_button.clicked.connect(self.showConffile())21:29
schestowitzTypeError: argument 1 has unexpected type 'NoneType'21:29
schestowitz2015-10-22 21:48:24,083 DEBUG running apport_crash()21:29
schestowitz2015-10-22 21:48:29,872 DEBUG enabling apt cron job21:29
amichairschestowitz: I'm no expert,  but I think if it was already in the middle of upgrading packages that the apt-get install -f should continue the job21:29
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schestowitzshould I close the windows, force-kill the job by deleting the lock or whatever and then try to resume?21:30
schestowitzubottu: thanks, will do21:30
ubottuschestowitz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:30
marktaffschestowitz: I had it lock up durin 15.10 do-release-upgrade as well.  I rebooted, incanted 'dpgk configure -a' (someone verify that command pls) And it finished fine, excpet in my case I had major issues as I had to install the new nvidia 352 driver to get kde to work at all. HTH21:31
amichairthat's what I would do, but if you're in no hurry, perhaps you should wait for someone with a bit more experience to join here21:31
schestowitzmaybe I'll wait, I really appreciate your help, amichair, and I am happy to see I'm not alone with such an issue21:32
amichairno problem. I haven't upgraded yet, but this sort of thing has happened to me in more upgrades in the past than I'd care to remember21:32
schestowitzthe upgrade resolved a HUGE issue I had in kubuntu 15.04 and suffered from for 6 months (performance issue with plasmashell and kwin21:32
KNRO_is there Kubuntu-backports for 15.10 now?21:33
amichairlooking at the man page, it looks like dpkg configure -a only re-does the configuration part, not the unpacking21:34
amichairthe apt-get install -f should do both I think21:34
schestowitzI can't even kill the windows gracefully, maybe it wants root or -921:35
KNRO_oh sweet, looks like 15.10 is use KDE Frameworks 5.1521:35
schestowitzamichair: I killed it as root, now I use sudo dpkg --configure -a and it seemingly resumes where it left off, in the CLI. I hope the cleanup stage of "wily" (upgrader) isn't imperative to getting it to work, maybe also some configuration like grub and whatnot...21:38
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amichairschestowitz: I'm not sure if it does more than apt-get autoremove/clean or such21:39
amichairalso try the apt-get thing afterwards just in case... it can't hurt21:39
amichair(if there are no broken dependencies it won't do anything)21:40
marktaffI followed the dpkg command with am apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.  In my case, the command said nothing to be done, and the base system seemed fine via ssh, but kde was totally useless for me until I added in the nvidia ppa and installed the 352 driver.21:40
amichairmarktaff: sounds like you finished the unpacking stage at least... schestowitz crashed in the middle of that21:41
marktaffamichair: it's been a long frustrating day, but I seem to recall it locking up about 80% of the way through unpacking.  I could be wrong though. :-)21:42
schestowitzthat's what happened to me21:43
schestowitzabout 80%21:43
schestowitzwhile going through the already-downloaded packages21:43
amichairmarktaff, schestowitz: please do report the bug with the stacktrace... so it will be fixed before I try to upgrade :-)21:44
marktaffyeah, the downloading only took me about 4 minutes (big pipe).21:44
marktaffamichair: lol, the system was too hosed at that point for a trace.21:44
amichairmarktaff: maybe you'll find it in the logs, where schestowitz found it21:45
amichairin /var/log/dist-upgrade21:45
marktafflemme check21:45
schestowitzroy@ted:/var/log/dist-upgrade$ tail -n 200 main.log21:46
schestowitzsee what broke it21:47
schestowitzmaybe it's the same for both of us21:47
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schestowitzapt-get now stopped at the same package that got it stopped when the gui was running "Setting up libsane-common (1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu2) ..."21:48
schestowitzand it asks a question, maybe the GUI could not handle a dialogue21:48
amichairschestowitz: I actually had that theory, but kept it to myself :-)21:48
schestowitzwhen the windows froce is saud lib-sane21:49
amichairit's supposed to handle some dialogs, but maybe something there wasn't standard21:49
schestowitzI assume the scanning crap, with some dll in there21:49
schestowitzConfiguration file '/etc/sane.d/dll.conf'21:49
schestowitz ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.21:49
schestowitzquite an irregular question after that21:50
schestowitzso maybe we found a likely culprit here21:50
amichairthe diff dialog?21:50
schestowitz   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:21:51
schestowitz    Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version21:51
schestowitz    N or O  : keep your currently-installed version21:51
schestowitz      D     : show the differences between the versions21:51
schestowitz      Z     : start a shell to examine the situation21:51
schestowitzSo... a bit irregular, I guess21:51
amichairyeah, that's actually standard I think21:51
schestowitzmaybe the python front end thing couldn't render that as a window, at least that's my wild guess21:51
amichairwhen it an't decide if it should overwrite your custom configuration files with the (newer) default ones21:51
amichairthe gui is supposed to handle that (it did in previous upgrades)21:52
amichairbut obviously there's a bug... maybe some character changed and threw the whole thing off21:52
amichairI wonder if marktaff hit the same bug with the same package21:53
schestowitzlet's wait for input, just tweeted a gentle warning about this because it seems as though I'm not the only one encountering this21:55
YatoSo, I have a problem. Display scaling isn't working properly for me.21:56
Yato1) if it isn't a round number, it appears like it just ignores it21:57
Yato2) it won't apply to window decorations21:57
marktaffI haven't found any errors in the logs yet.21:57
Yatoany tips?21:57
schestowitzmarktaff: what's the last line in that log file?21:57
schestowitztail -n 5  /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log21:58
arist0vhello, i have an issue with my kubuntu, my Xorg process have a massive memory usage and i can'T find why and how to stop it!21:58
schestowitzarist0v: I had this issue in kubuntu 15.0421:58
schestowitzwhich one are you on?21:58
amichairwell since he continued the update later, maybe it's not the last line anymore, or not in that file but in the dated archived logs21:58
arist0vschestowitz, LTS21:59
schestowitz14.04 then21:59
schestowitzsounds like it's potentially a graphics driver issue21:59
arist0vi have read somewhere to disable kde-plasma i tried it but didn'T work21:59
amichairschestowitz: I'll be back a bit later - good luck! (and don't forget to report the bug :-) )21:59
schestowitzyeah, if I can get stronger confirmation that it's the dialogue thing that crashed the upgrader and at which point22:00
schestowitzwill run 'apt-get install -f' later22:01
amichairschestowitz: if it says there's nothing left to do, you should be good to go22:01
schestowitzdbus-daemon has been upgraded from a version with incompatible configuration.22:01
schestowitzNew configuration will be loaded after the next reboot.22:01
marktaffI have 2 files, one set was archived into a folder w/today's date--that one ends in "2015-10-22 10:31:26,296 DEBUG enabling apt cron job"22:06
schestowitzreboot, fingers crossed22:06
marktaffexamining, looks like the archived one is for 14.10-->15.04 which worked ok.22:07
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andrea742buonasera a tutti22:08
marktaffhttps://goo.gl/B4JuF5 this is the end of the log up the upgrade to 15.10 where it quit.  It doesn't seem to note any obvious errors, to me.22:13
* marktaff crosses fingers22:13
arist0vschmidtm, i just try to update my graphic driver but when i did it, i X won'T start22:22
arist0vschmidtm, sorry wasn'T for you22:24
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superfluffypunchI managed to fix my desktop22:43
superfluffypunchhad to manually re-set everything22:43
superfluffypunchI have another problem though22:43
superfluffypunchlong boot time22:43
superfluffypunchIt takes kubuntu minutes to boot and this started after I installed kali linux22:44
superfluffypunchI think this is an issue of UUID for the swap partition not matching22:52
excalibrDoes 15.10 still have traces of kde4?22:52
newguyHey! Having trouble using the partition tool with the new Kubuntu release. Can anyone help?22:54
excalibrwhat do you need help with22:54
newguyTrying to create new partitions while keeping an LVM volume on the same disk. When I click "install now", it tells me it's going to format the LVM volume as swap.22:55
newguyeven though I never touch the LVM volume in the partition tool22:56
newguythis is during installation btw22:56
newguyIt does the same thing if I create my partitions before starting the installer, and just select the mount points during installation; it tells me it's going to format the LVM volume as swap!22:58
excalibrThat's weird. Do you have a swap partition?22:59
newguyYup. Right now the disk looks like: Boot - ext4 - swap - empty space - LVM23:01
newguyAlthough the installer doesn't recognize LVM, it just shows sda4 (unknown)23:02
anabainHi, I need some help on apt stuff. I'm currently running a 14.10 box and it seems that something has been broken, as I can't make apt-get update work properly. It starts skipping http:// URLs and ends with an error message about being unable to download.23:07
excalibrHmm I dont mess much with lvm before so Im out of my depth here. But dont you need lvm2 package to be installed first23:08
excalibrnewguy, ^23:08
newguy"The following partitions are going to be formatted: LVM VG vms, LV Studio as swap LVM VG vms, LV Studio as swap partition #3 of SCSI3(0,0,0) (sda) as swap"23:08
TJ-Everything as swap!?23:09
newguyno, just the VGs23:10
newguybut I'm trying to get the installer to not format these as swap23:10
TJ-newguy: does it repeat the "LVM VG vms, LV Studio as swap" twice, as well as "partition #3 of SCSI... as swap" ?23:12
anabainI'm also unable to uninstall nfs-common. It's a bug in 14.10 but there's no solution (at least I haven't been able to find it). People say move to 15.10 and don't use systemd in 14.10. But I'm obviously stuck because I can't do anything with apt. Any ideas?23:14
newguysorry, typo cause I couldn't copy-paste, it lists the two LVs I have in partition; the second is LV Windoze23:14
newguyLVM VG vms, LV Studio as swap LVM VG vms, LV Windoze as swap partition #3 of SCSI3(0,0,0) (sda) as swap23:15
TJ-newguy: so it seems to be thinking 3 seperate block devices need to be created as swap23:15
TJ-newguy: Are you assigning any of those in the partitioner?23:15
Mamarokanabain: 14.10 has reached its Endo of Life already, it's not LTS23:16
newguyno partitions are assigned by me except the ext4 root partition, but i just noticed it has the /dev/mapper entries listed as swap for some reason23:20
Mamarokanabain: so you have no other choice than to upgrade, and IIRC you need to upgrade to 15.04, then you can upgrade to 15.1023:22
newguyjust noticed the "do not use this partition" option, would selecting this for everything do thr trick?23:22
Fritigernanabain: Support for 14.10 (Utopic) ended with the release of 15.10 (Wily). Canonical deleted the Utopic repos. See for yourself: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/23:22
newguyI feel like that should be the default...23:22
MamarokFritigern: I already said just that...23:23
Mamarokand the support for 14.10 ended in July already, not just now23:23
TJ-newguy: yes, but that should be the default. You need to find out why partman (the underlying tool) is incorrectly detecting those block devices as swap - it infers there's a swap signature in them23:23
FritigernNot exactly that. I added detail.23:23
newguysorry, Mamarok I must have missed that23:23
anabainOk, then. I'll have to give 15.10 a try. I had serious problems the last time I tried to upgrade. That's why I'm using the obsolete 14.10.23:24
FritigernWily is more stable for me than Vivid was. I've been running Wily since a few weeks and I am happy.23:25
Mamarokanabain: not sure you can upgrade to 15.10 from 14.10, you probably have to go through 15.0423:25
anabainI hope so, Fritigern23:25
anabainThanks Mamarok.23:26
FritigernAnd yes, you will have to go through 15.04,23:26
marktaffanabain: 14.10 has been EOL'd.  You need to upgrade to at least 15.04 to keep getting updates.  If all you want is 14.10 packages with no more security updates, you need to point your sources to the new locations for the deprecated packages.23:26
Mamarokmarktaff: seriously, do you read what others say? you are the thrid now to say the same thing, not really helping more23:26
marktaffchill, scoll button on mouse locked up.23:27
newguyeach LV is used as a KVM disk. not sure how KVM formats vdisk volumes, but it likely includes a swap partition. im just worried that it's telling me it wants to reformat the whole LV rather than just leave it alone23:27
Mamarokmarktaff: scroll button not needed in this particular case, open your eyes :)23:28
Mamarokanyway, off to bed, you are way enough to know how to give help23:29
newguycool, going through all the existing partitions and selectiong "do not use" seems to do the trick23:29
newguyexcept the ones I want to mount, of course "P23:29
marktaffanabain: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ use this url in your sources if you choose not to update to 15.04 or 15.10. Note you won't get any security updates though.23:46
anabainthanks marktaff23:47
marktaffyw. this links has more info: http://ask.xmodulo.com/404-not-found-error-apt-get-update-ubuntu.html  this way you can solve the problem at hand, then upgrade when you have time. :-)23:48

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