[00:00] o.o === toscalix__ is now known as toscalix === sebastian is now known as Guest56564 [00:38] guten morgen [00:38] kann mir jemand helfen conky zu installieren === toby_ is now known as blah === blah is now known as RAZ3R [00:56] !de [00:56] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [01:00] where is it? === unix is now known as Guest47357 [01:14] hi [03:22] anybody awake? [03:23] well if so , using an old work horse pc , 1400 mhz core two duo pnetium with 2 gigs of ram [03:23] using ltr 14 atm [03:24] was gona pick up a new ssd next week [03:24] cheap sandisk 120 gig , curious if anybody thinks the newerr with plsma could run ok on it [03:25] or should i stick with the older lts version [03:26] hmm alot of people silent for prime time lol [03:27] * sinsix smacks everybody with a large trout === archaeopteryx is now known as Guest65273 [03:28] hmm i assume around a hundred people in here and not a peep [03:29] maybe webchat people, are blocked? [03:32] really anbody alive? [03:33] hmm maybe a webchatter started some being rude and admin blocked msges? [04:06] hello [04:06] about what UTC hour of october 22, is it supposed to officially see the new Kubuntu 15.10 release? [04:08] rodolfojcj, I believe some mirrors have already received the iso [04:09] ok [04:09] I'm doing an aptitude update right now [04:09] here where I live is october 21 yet [05:54] listen [05:54] they cant nak me unless they have a time constraint to hold against [05:55] honey [05:56] listen [05:56] 0 dimensional root [05:57] listen [05:58] if they can't keep tract of time waggafinger shows up to an empty room [05:58] listen [06:00] listen light can be an opposing force [06:01] th3s3_3y3s: What does this have to do with Kubuntu support? [06:02] well aren't you vader? [06:02] th3s3_3y3s: I'll take that as a 'nothing'. I'd like to point you to #kubuntu-offtopic. [06:02] !offtopic | th3s3_3y3s [06:02] th3s3_3y3s: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [06:27] I've had the machine to download skype about 5 times and it fails every time. [06:52] listen [06:52] the hackers are trying to kill you [06:52] th3s3_3y3s: Do you have a support question, or are you looking for a ban? [06:53] the lowmen at meetups [08:46] any news on what time 15.10 will be released? [08:50] acolombo: Today \o/ [08:50] Time when it is ready.... Subscribe to the annouce mailing list ;) === uwe is now known as ParkaBoy [10:57] Hiyas all [11:22] hello [11:23] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.10/final/ - not workie :( [11:23] It's not released yet, so [11:24] :( [11:25] hateball: so this is unofficial? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/wily/release/ [11:26] freeroute: nope [11:26] 'google links Linux [11:26] freeroute: it's just not officially "released" [11:26] will there be a release party? [11:26] will there be cake? [11:27] !release [11:27] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [11:27] hmm [11:27] !releaseparty [11:27] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Saucy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2534/ [11:27] haha, saucy. that's well old [11:27] lol oldskool [11:27] freeroute, I had to install my gpu driver in VT before i could get a desktop [11:28] BluesKaj: VT? Were you installing it on virtualbox by any chance? [11:28] Virtual terminal/TTY [11:28] oh ok [11:28] no VMshere [11:30] I tried to install Fedora 22 minimal on vbox with @kde-desktop package group, but I couldn't get X running because of a supposed vbox bug. [11:30] (affects most recent kernels and recent versions of xorg) [11:30] (according to the people at #fedora) [11:31] hah you've been listening to PSIJack [11:33] if it was, then he used the disguise of fenrus02 and linuxmodder [11:35] something about vbox video driver not being loaded or something [11:36] his fav OS is fedora and spouts about it in ##linux all the time [11:36] heh yeah, I figured I would give it a try, but I couldn't, especially because they provided the KDE-without-the-apps install. [11:37] but I couldn't even get the damn thing to start a graphics session :p [11:38] not an rpm fan, the packaging wasn't to my liking, but that was a while ago, maybe it's less clunky now [11:39] they have dnf now, but I haven't really used it extensively yet to know how well it works. [11:39] I really liked that during install there was a tmux session in TTY1 [11:39] with logs and everything [11:41] I could swear there was a channel for offtopic banter [11:41] lol === ragnar is now known as Guest71742 === john is now known as Guest59078 [13:51] What's new in Kubuntu Wily? [13:54] You could wait a bit, but here is a not-ready-for release preview: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu [13:55] And, as usual, OMG Ubuntu wants to be first: https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/657152118126542848 [13:57] Or you can just grab it now (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.10/release/) and write your own review, but please do not post until the announcement. [13:58] nice, downloading now === teo_ is now known as teozkr === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | Kubuntu 15.10 https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10/ [14:14] 15.10 is out https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10/ [14:15] excellent news!! [14:15] thanks for your constant and great work [14:16] it has been a pleasure [14:16] Riddell: thank you!!!! [14:20] Riddell: Thanks, you rock :) [14:20] TY Riddell for the past work. Also thanks for grabbing most of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu [14:20] marco-parillo: most? didn't I grab it all [14:21] Except for the Draft-Not for release [14:21] reading the 15.50 announcement, I have curiosity for exploring the new LibreOffice 5.0 [14:21] *15.10 [14:21] But, one question: I have not re-run the open bug list query in a while. Did you? [14:22] marco-parillo: no I didn't check over those, would be worth doing [14:33] Riddell: I ran my little perl script and generated this (http://paste.ubuntu.com/12894327/) and updated the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu) with it. Good news is that the list is shorter. [14:34] :) [14:34] go in -devel [14:35] Riddell: congrats! and thanks! [14:55] Just curious, is the header of the homepage going to be changed? It currently still says Kubuntu 15.04 + Plasma 5 === AntiSpamMeta_ is now known as AntiSpamMeta === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === JosefFilzmaier_ is now known as JosefFilzmaier === agumon is now known as Uptime [15:07] hi my users! [15:07] I AM CREATOR OF LINUX [15:07] XD [15:07] XDDD [15:07] XDDDDD [15:07] PIK [15:07] SEXY [15:07] I LOVE BARACK OBAMA [15:07] !ops [15:07] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, valorie, shadeslayer, or txwikinger [15:08] !ops [15:08] Thank you Pici [15:08] np === g4mby is now known as PaulW2U [15:40] Hiya [15:40] Now on Kubuntu15.10 [15:40] but I've no sounds [15:41] it may to do with me mounting the old /home partition onto /home and now there are some settings conflicting in such a way that the autodetection of the audio HW went wrong [15:41] or this is what I figure what happened [15:42] Looks very nice but lack of sounds really bummers === denza242 is now known as DENZA242 [15:43] how do I probe for the sound HW [15:43] and install the driver [15:43] at least I think this is what I want to do [15:46] should I install again without mounting the /home partition and then mount that later on ? [15:47] one would expect the installation to detect the built-in [15:47] though 15.04 also detected the auxiliary sound card in addition to the internal [15:54] can't see the audio device in 'sudo lspci -v' [15:55] My current theory is that the installer mounted the /home partition too early on and got some shit settings from there ( originally a Kubuntu15.04 installations /home partition ) [15:56] I can try the installation again without including the "mount /dev/sda7 as /home" but if it is useless I'd rather not [15:57] now I now [15:57] I try the live version and see if that sees my sound HW [15:57] bye === kubuntu is now known as jubo2 [16:03] Hiya [16:04] now in Kubuntu15.10 live and the internal sound card is working just fine [16:05] could someone plos confirm my theory that the broken settings from my /home partition of the Kubuntu15.04 are obstructing the audio HW from being detected at all [16:08] silence [16:08] I thought this was the #kubuntu support channel [16:09] jubo2: IRC support means you may have to wait for some time [16:09] Hi [16:09] jubo2: [16:10] oui_ [16:12] I think you have something with you /home partition [16:13] me too [16:13] there are broken settings over there [16:13] If you boot back into your machine again, you could try running alsamixer from the terminal [16:13] Infact [16:13] try it now in the live version [16:13] I am asking in what sequence the audio HW detection and the mounting of the old /home partition happen [16:13] ok [16:13] take a look at the various channels and their settings [16:14] sick_rimmit: it is all looking good, the alsamixer [16:14] I don;t think its HW detection, that's taken care of by the kernel module loader [16:14] To check that for sure you could take a look at the output from lsmod [16:15] sick_rimmit: I think I looked at lsmod on the installed OS and it did not list any audio devices [16:15] Could be worth trying alsamixer in the installed env, see if it simply switched something off [16:15] with Kubuntu15.04 detecting both at install time [16:15] ok. I reboot there and connect bakc [16:16] alright [16:28] 'alsamixer' displays the card correct [16:28] but I don't hear anything [16:28] sick_rimmit: [16:30] I don't see any audio devices in 'lspci -v' [16:31] jubo2: Could you pastebin the output of 'lspci -k'? [16:31] sure thing [16:32] lordievader: http://pastebin.com/nX30Q4LF [16:32] there I see an audio device [16:32] jubo2: Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) [16:32] Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel [16:33] jubo2: What is the problem? [16:33] no audio [16:33] jubo2: What does 'aplay -l' return? [16:34] it sees both the internal and the external cards [16:34] Okay, which one do you want to use? [16:34] that's difficult to answer [16:35] whenever there is no external connected I wanna use the internal and when there is then the external [16:35] Right, so you want to use the external one. What does 'pactl -l' return? [16:35] getting either one to play some sound would be an advancement on the current situation of no sound [16:35] Err 'pactl info'* [16:36] hi guys [16:36] lordievader: pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused [16:36] jubo2: Are you executing that command from root or do you not run Pulseaudio? [16:36] lordievader: I exectute it as a normal user [16:37] So pulseaudio ain't running? (ps aux|grep pulse) [16:37] not running [16:37] Looks like you've found the trail to follow [16:38] yeah but trailblazing bass is missing [16:38] jubo2: Okay, we'll sidestep for a second. [16:39] jubo2: Could you give me the output of 'aplay -l' anyways? [16:39] !bot? [16:39] madmanwithabox: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:39] nice! [16:39] lordievader: http://pastebin.com/dP6A4ctR [16:40] jubo2: I suppose you want to use the MobilePre? [16:40] yes [16:40] I want to use both [16:41] when the MobilePre isn't hooked up the internal and when it is the external [16:42] jubo2: I know, the internal will be used as fall back but lets not focus on that right now. Could you give the output of 'aplay -L' too please? [16:43] lordievader: http://pastebin.com/uMw8R8v4 [16:45] jubo2: Do you hear something when you execute "aplay -D front:CARD=MobilePre,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" (Path might not be entirely correct) === comodo is now known as khax [16:46] lordievader: I don't even see or hear the "adjust volume" graphic and associated sounds [16:46] jubo2: What? [16:47] It says "aplay: set_params:1239: Channels count non available" [16:47] think the fron_center is a speaker path not a line level or preamp level path [16:48] jubo2: Hmm, make it "aplay -D front:CARD=MobilePre,DEV=0 -c 2 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" [16:49] Konversation sucks [16:49] Konversation FGJ [16:49] ? [16:49] Khaotic: Then use something else, you are free to choose ;) [16:49] lordievader: says the same "channels count non available" [16:49] i know [16:49] i just wanted to mention that [16:49] i use hexchat [16:49] jubo2: Right, was afraid of that. [16:49] Konversation rocks! [16:49] but hexchat doesnt work with systray in 15.04 [16:50] i am considering upgrading to 15.10 today [16:50] BluesKaj, konversation keeps disconnecting me [16:50] Khaotic, maybe your settings are incorrect [16:50] i like the ui though [16:50] they arent [16:50] same settings i have in hexchat [16:50] same servers and ports [16:50] jubo2: You might try "aplay -D plughw:CARD=MobilePre,DEV=0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" [16:51] Khaotic, which irc servers ? [16:51] freenode and hak5 [16:51] Whoop hak5 \o/ [16:52] lol [16:52] Khaotic, try card, dickson and kornbluth [16:52] what are those? [16:52] Is there a apt / dpkg equivalent to Arch's bacman, if anyone is familar with that? That's Bacman, not pacman. [16:52] hak5 ,,blrh [16:53] danboid: Perhaps describe what Bacman does? [16:53] awww kubuntu hasnt upgraded to 15.10 yet [16:53] Khaotic, https://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml [16:54] oh [16:54] well i use just irc.freenode.net and im still connected in hexchat [16:54] but in konversation it disconnects all the time [16:54] lordievader, bacman creates a package from a previously installed Arch package (for which you no longer have access to the original binary package) [16:54] not here [16:54] and i hate how konversation doesnt id to nickserv before joining channels [16:54] hexchat does [16:55] danboid: Ah. No, no idea. Sorry. [16:56] lordievader: that run witout errors but no sound was played [16:57] jubo2: Hmm, not anywhere? [16:57] Khaotic, it used to, but now one has make sure nickserv sees the pw in the server itself [16:57] I don't think apt and rpm can do this. When I found out about it recently I thought it was the coolest packaging feature I'd heard about in some time. It'd be nice to see this is the deb world too. [16:57] rpm/yum [16:57] huh? [16:57] BluesKaj, what do you mean? [16:57] not anywhere lordievader [16:57] Khaotic, not just in freenode [16:58] i know [16:58] jubo2: Any channels muted? [16:58] i set different profiles for each server [16:58] it's joins the channels before it IDs to nickserv [16:58] lordievader: hitting the volume up and volume down doesn't give the volume adjustement see-through graphic [16:58] jubo2: That is rather unrelated. [16:58] the System Settings there are no audio devices but the other commands seem to see the cards [16:59] jubo2: Go in alsamixer and make sure all channels are unmuted and max vol then try the command again. [16:59] open edit in the server list and add your password there, for each server in the list [16:59] Also make sure any automute is off. [17:00] lordievader: automute was enabled [17:00] does that matter [17:00] jubo2: No channels were muted? [17:00] jubo2, yes disable it [17:01] what would I see if there were muted channels [17:01] jubo2: MM [17:01] jubo2: You want to see 100 [17:01] I see that [17:01] automute mutes all channels, no mater what the othe vol ctls are set at [17:01] except master is @ 42 [17:01] jubo2: Set that to 100 too ;) [17:02] BluesKaj: I disabled it now [17:02] ok [17:02] no sound [17:02] jubo2: You may also want to try 'hw:CARD=MobilePre,DEV=0' as an argument for -D. [17:03] that says the "channel count not available" [17:03] Right.... [17:04] jubo2: Guess it is time to start pulseaudio and mess around in pavucontrol. [17:04] jubo2, after making changes in alsamixer, escape then do, sudo alsactl store [17:04] BluesKaj: run that. no effect [17:05] no output means it worked [17:05] yeah but the aplay command runs and no sound is played. I meant that [17:06] jubo2: Actually I am interested does the '-D plughw:CARD=MID,DEV=0' argument get working sound on the internal card? [17:06] ah that worked BluesKaj [17:08] lordievader: Now the internal sound card says "Front, center" in noncaptivating tone.. but this is progress [17:10] jubo2, so you have pavutctl set to use the internal [17:10] I've never touched pavuctl [17:10] ok [17:10] I don't even have pavuctl [17:11] oh I thought you mentioned it earlier [17:11] no [17:12] pavucontrol that is' [17:12] so I should install that? === fritz is now known as Guest21952 [17:13] no package called pavuctl [17:13] only if you think it will help, to me pulseuadio restricts outputs in complex audio setups [17:13] pavuctl=pavucontrol [17:14] I don't even know what I need PulseAudio for [17:15] j!pulseaudio [17:15] !pulseaudio [17:15] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [17:16] jubo2, unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view pulseaudio is default on kubuntu [17:17] I don't know what is the difference between ALSA/PulseAudio/JACK [17:17] I just want it to work like I want it to [17:17] jubo2: Ok, so at least the internal works. [17:17] if I use the aplay command [17:17] jubo2: Yes, install pavucontol. [17:18] jubo2: Then start pulseaudio and see if you can direct some audio to go to the external soundcard. [17:18] alsa can provide audio (it's the basic audio app) without pulseaudio, but pulseaudio needs alsa to run [17:18] "Unable to connect to PulseAudio" [17:19] lordievader: how do I start pulseaudio? 'pulseaudio &' ? [17:19] yeah. [17:20] pavucontrol sees both cards [17:20] but will it play? [17:20] it should [17:21] nope [17:21] it used play both cards on my pc when I had a m-audio as well an onboard [17:22] now I'm hearing "plop-plop-plop" in varying volume levels based on the setting [17:23] jubo2, sometimes sudo alsa force-reload works after making changes [17:23] now the audio is on [17:24] linux audio such a messy bunch of apps and servers [17:24] but I cannot control it with the volume control keys [17:25] judo you have kmix installed? that's another helper app that runs as an alsa gui [17:25] BluesKaj: nope [17:25] should I? [17:25] not yet [17:26] at least I can listen to audio while I receive help to fix this [17:27] jubo2, actually after all these settings changes the real test to see if they're sticky is to reboot [17:27] How do I upgrade pls [17:28] samfreenode, from? [17:28] 15.04 [17:28] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade no work [17:28] samfreenode, sudo do-release-upgrade [17:28] Hi everyone! My Kubuntu 15.04 fails to update to 15.10. I get an error after step 2 of the process. Removing 3rd party repos from package manager did nothing :( [17:29] BluesKaj: so I reboot? [17:29] but make sure you do sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade first [17:29] samfreenode,^ [17:29] made a bug report as prompted, but perhaps you have more ideas? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1509025 [17:29] Launchpad bug 1509025 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "System update from Kubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 fails." [Undecided,New] [17:29] BluesKaj, Thanks, upgrading now [17:30] jubo2, that's your call [17:31] I prlly still need to 'pulseaudio &' after reboot= [17:31] I reboot [17:35] audio works after 'pulseaudio &' but volume controlls are not functional [17:37] jubo2, install kmix , you'll see the same vol ctls as alsa, but in a handy gui [17:38] and youKB volctls might work, mine do [17:38] jubo2: If pulse audio ain't started use: pulseaudio --start [17:38] the default pulseaudio vol ctl in the panel is useless === denza242 is now known as Denza242DX [17:39] the kmix vol settings link directly to alsa [17:39] This are the errors I get when running kmix: http://pastebin.com/tvpeUUQ2 BluesKaj [17:40] jubo2: If you are using pulseaudio you should use the new volume manger which interfaces with pulseaudio. [17:41] now the audio control shows up but that controls the internal (and is audible in the internal) while the external sound card is playing uneffected by the control [17:41] jubo2: Btw, can I conclude from the backlog that through PA the external card works? [17:42] lordievader: yes [17:42] Nice ;) [17:43] now I disconnected the external and sound is playing from internal and controls are responding [17:43] Makes sense. === Denza242DX is now known as dankmeme [17:43] I reboot [17:44] jubo2: By the by the pa applet should list all sound cards. === dankmeme is now known as denza242 [17:47] I wish this stuff would just work [17:48] now I rebooted and 'pulseaudio --start' and the external nor the internal ain't saying anything [17:48] oh uh, I have a packaging bug to report [17:49] now I disconnected the external and no audio is saying anything [17:50] so basically, the package kde-config-systemd installs the kcm shared object to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/ [17:50] however [17:50] jubo2: By the by the pa applet should list all sound cards. [17:50] For me it even lists networked cards. [17:50] it should be installing to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kcm_systemd.so [17:51] denza242: you would have a bigger audience in #kubuntu-devel for that kind of thing. [17:52] lordievader: what is the "pa applet" ? [17:52] jubo2: The new kmix thing which interfaces with PA. [17:52] Should be there by default. [17:53] jubo2, you need to decide which audo card/chip is default (card 0) in system settings>multimedia>device preference [17:53] BluesKaj, omg why is it taking so long [17:53] marco-parillo: posted there [17:53] BluesKaj: that just shows "PulseAudio server" as the only alternative [17:54] lordievader: BluesKaj: this is getting more bizarre [17:55] bummer, now you know why i don't use pulseaudio, that one of the reasonsa [17:55] using the internal sound card the internal speakers work but if I connect the stereo jack the audio goes away [17:56] too many audio cooks in linux-audio [17:56] what is the stero jack connected to? [17:56] I agree [17:56] BluesKaj: a functional stereo set [17:57] jubo2: Sounds like automute is on again. [17:58] and it's an analog out to line level rca type plugs? [17:58] automute should off since he disabled it already [17:58] be [17:58] it wasn't [18:01] jubo2, the analog out on the soundcard shorts out the internal speakers, it seems that's a mechanical delberate short [18:02] with random hacks and sprinkling magic dust I potentially can get some sound out of this machine [18:02] BluesKaj: yeah.. but the way we are all used to it is that if you connect a 3.5mm jack all audio goes there [18:02] now nothing goes there [18:03] A small request: I attached in my bug report a list of packages currently on my system. I don't know what/how to clean it up to prceed with my upgrade to 15.10. Plese take a look - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1509025 [18:03] Launchpad bug 1509025 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "System update from Kubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 fails." [Undecided,Incomplete] [18:03]