| flexiondotorg | tsimonq2, Um, OK? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| tsimonq2 | and you are by chance Martin Wimpress, correct? | 00:00 |
| flexiondotorg | What did I know? | 00:00 |
| flexiondotorg | I am. | 00:00 |
| flexiondotorg | tsimonq2, Why do you ask? | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | are you not on Linux UNplugged sometimes? | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | because I thought | 00:00 |
| flexiondotorg | I am. | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | huh | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | wow | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | I keep meeting you people around here that are regulars on there | 00:00 |
| ianorlin | My microphone and audio quality are quite bad though | 00:00 |
| wxl | i'm pretty sure tsimonq2 is linux unplugged's biggest fan | 00:00 |
| tsimonq2 | I just thought that was significant | 00:01 |
| flexiondotorg | Why don't you join us/ | 00:01 |
| flexiondotorg | It's fun. | 00:01 |
| tsimonq2 | I am 13...my brothers are usually blasting TV when it is happening | 00:01 |
| tsimonq2 | but wait...can I join the Mumble room anytime? | 00:01 |
| ianorlin | tsimonq2: that is better than having your dad yell at your mom in the background | 00:02 |
| tsimonq2 | ianorlin: divorced parents | 00:02 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 00:02 |
| ianorlin | mine are not yet | 00:02 |
| tsimonq2 | flexiondotorg: could I join the mumble room now? | 00:02 |
| tsimonq2 | flexiondotorg: or is it only during shows? | 00:02 |
| flexiondotorg | Yep, it's always open. | 00:02 |
| tsimonq2 | oh | 00:03 |
| tsimonq2 | my | 00:03 |
| tsimonq2 | god | 00:03 |
| flexiondotorg | Often people in there chatting. | 00:03 |
| wxl | oh no | 00:03 |
| flexiondotorg | Like a forum, but talking. | 00:03 |
| tsimonq2 | yes yes yes | 00:03 |
| * wxl had a chance to be in a live audience on one fo their shows at Linuxfest Northwest this year | 00:03 | |
| flexiondotorg | I use it to chat to the visually impaired and blind users. | 00:03 |
| * wxl didn't care enough | 00:03 | |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, Where are you located? | 00:04 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: eugene, oregon, usa | 00:04 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl! | 00:04 |
| tsimonq2 | what??????? | 00:04 |
| tsimonq2 | flexiondotorg: I launched Mumble, now what? | 00:04 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: well it was open to anyone there, really | 00:04 |
| tsimonq2 | gosh darnit | 00:04 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, Because I am thinking of making the trip to Linux Fest Nothwest next year. | 00:04 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: oh dude, that was probably the best conference i've ever been to. i absolutely loved it. | 00:05 |
| wxl | i'm sort of sad i'm missing SeaGL, but i've got some folks from our oregon loco on the way up there | 00:05 |
| tsimonq2 | GAHD | 00:05 |
| flexiondotorg | tsimonq2, Mumble info - Server: mumble.jupitercolony.com, Port: 64734 | 00:06 |
| tsimonq2 | you people need to fly me out to these things | 00:06 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 00:06 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: canonical's paying for it. it's one of the joys of being in a loco. you can be there to advocate for ubuntu. it doesn't involve work, though, running a booth for 2 days straight | 00:06 |
| tsimonq2 | umm | 00:08 |
| tsimonq2 | so | 00:08 |
| tsimonq2 | umm | 00:08 |
| tsimonq2 | what | 00:08 |
| tsimonq2 | I am a member of the Wisconsin LoCo team | 00:08 |
| wxl | right | 00:08 |
| tsimonq2 | does that mean? | 00:08 |
| tsimonq2 | no | 00:08 |
| wxl | so there's probably a conference nearby you can advocate for | 00:08 |
| tsimonq2 | NO FREAKING WAY | 00:08 |
| wxl | https://forms.canonical.com/cda/ | 00:09 |
| wxl | TECHNICALLY, canonical does not pay for it | 00:09 |
| wxl | the community council authorizes it | 00:09 |
| wxl | canonical acts as a broker for the money | 00:09 |
| wxl | but the money originates from community conations | 00:09 |
| wxl | donations | 00:09 |
| wxl | holy wiki man | 00:11 |
| wxl | these people are never prepared | 00:11 |
| * wxl shakes his head in shame | 00:12 | |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, I hear good things about it. | 00:13 |
| flexiondotorg | So I've been saving up. | 00:13 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: it's the real deal when it comes to being community oriented | 00:13 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: way better than oscon, imho. | 00:15 |
| flexiondotorg | Yeah, the two I've always wanted to attend a LFNW and Linux.conf.au | 00:16 |
| flexiondotorg | We've got OggCamp end of next week which is also very community orientated. | 00:16 |
| wxl | yeah you're the 2nd person to mention it this week | 00:16 |
| wxl | sounds like something to go to | 00:16 |
| flexiondotorg | Is actually a Free Culture Unconference. | 00:16 |
| flexiondotorg | It's epic | 00:16 |
| wxl | at first i thought it might be a xiph conference ;) | 00:16 |
| flexiondotorg | This year, all delegates will get an RFID tag. | 00:17 |
| flexiondotorg | To track the scores in a Raspberry Pi power Nerf gun competition. | 00:17 |
| flexiondotorg | It's free. | 00:17 |
| flexiondotorg | The event. | 00:17 |
| flexiondotorg | Or you can choose to pay. | 00:17 |
| flexiondotorg | Very family friendly. | 00:18 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: if you do come to this neck of the woods, let me know. chances are our loco will be back at lfnw. | 00:22 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, I absolutely will! | 00:22 |
| tsimonq2 | flexiondotorg: I am all set up | 00:23 |
| tsimonq2 | flexiondotorg: And I am in the lobby | 00:24 |
| wxl | ok i'm done | 00:24 |
| flexiondotorg | tsimonq2, OK. I'not on Mumble right now. | 00:25 |
| wxl | night all. thanks for the help everyone, esp phillw and tsimonq2 for banging out the tests :) | 00:25 |
| tsimonq2 | Ok :) | 00:25 |
| tsimonq2 | good night sir wxl | 00:25 |
| flexiondotorg | But is anyone else on? | 00:25 |
| tsimonq2 | umm ShaunPC | 00:25 |
| tsimonq2 | uhhh | 00:25 |
| flexiondotorg | Just say Hello and talk. | 00:25 |
| tsimonq2 | let me take a screenshot for you | 00:25 |
| tsimonq2 | I know | 00:25 |
| flexiondotorg | It is usually busy around show time. | 00:25 |
| phillw | tc wxl | 00:33 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: even!! | 01:08 |
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| phillw | right, wiki pages updated and mirror turned on. | 15:52 |
| phillw | wxl: I've remembered to edit the testing page so that only 14.04 step release is under test :) | 16:40 |
| wxl | phillw: so you did edit the testing page or i need to? | 16:52 |
| phillw | i did :) | 16:52 |
| redwolf | wxl, hjalp! | 16:52 |
| redwolf | I need the twitter password. in pm. now. plase. | 16:53 |
| redwolf | sorry, HJÄLP | 16:54 |
| phillw | redwolf: iirc, lubuntu follows me, if you want me to tweet? | 16:58 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, Ping | 22:46 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, I've got Lubuntu 15.10 running on my Pi 2 ;-) | 22:46 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: nice! i'm jealous! | 22:46 |
| flexiondotorg | First effort was 95% success. | 22:46 |
| wxl | and the other 5%? | 22:46 |
| flexiondotorg | So, I bundle some Raspberry Pi "stuff" in Ubuntu MATE for the Pi 2. | 22:46 |
| flexiondotorg | Scratch, Minecraft Pi, Sonic Pi etc. | 22:46 |
| flexiondotorg | They have quite a lot of deps. | 22:47 |
| flexiondotorg | Do you want that stuff in Lubuntu? | 22:47 |
| wxl | naw | 22:47 |
| flexiondotorg | Makes it quite bug. Scratch is not currently working | 22:47 |
| flexiondotorg | OK. | 22:47 |
| flexiondotorg | So if I strip out the Pi stuff, I just make what is essentially Lubuntu then? | 22:47 |
| wxl | yes | 22:48 |
| flexiondotorg | OK, will do. | 22:48 |
| wxl | awesome! | 22:48 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll spin another image. | 22:48 |
| flexiondotorg | Latest will be next Monday. | 22:48 |
| wxl | hey while you're here, question— you know much about snappy personal? | 22:48 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, I've had a few one to ones. | 22:48 |
| flexiondotorg | I watch all the UOS stuff. | 22:48 |
| flexiondotorg | Have a quick play. | 22:48 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: is it going to be something where you can use different desktop environments? | 22:49 |
| flexiondotorg | Understand snapcraft but not made my own snap yet. | 22:49 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, Something I've discussed. | 22:49 |
| flexiondotorg | I know the theory. | 22:49 |
| flexiondotorg | Until Xmir is in Snappy, No. | 22:49 |
| wxl | ok | 22:49 |
| flexiondotorg | But is something I really want to experiment with, but not for 16.04. | 22:50 |
| wxl | from sabdfl's post on xenial, it kind of sounds like they're targeting x cycle for the official release | 22:50 |
| flexiondotorg | At least, not a release version. | 22:50 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, Yeah, for an experimental version. | 22:50 |
| wxl | oh | 22:50 |
| flexiondotorg | But, they can use Mir. | 22:50 |
| flexiondotorg | We need Xmir. | 22:50 |
| wxl | xmir is a bridge between x and mir? | 22:51 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, Anyway Lubuntu on Pi has oem-config as first setup wizard and everything appears to work. | 22:51 |
| flexiondotorg | Yes. | 22:51 |
| wxl | k cool i'll watch that carefully | 22:51 |
| flexiondotorg | Not currently in Snappy. Coming though. | 22:51 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: well if all is well and good with the build, let me know the full instructions and i'll see if i can't replicate | 22:51 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, One sec. | 22:52 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, Do you mind if I start teasing this is in the works? | 22:53 |
| flexiondotorg | I was thinking I might cover this Pi 2 stuff as a UOS show and tell. | 22:55 |
| flexiondotorg | Also thought I might use it the basis of a talk at OggCamp. | 22:55 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, BTW, Xubuntu turned down the opportunity. | 22:55 |
| phillw | sounds fun :) | 22:59 |
| wxl | oops sorry disappeared | 23:02 |
| wxl | table tennis XD | 23:02 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: i haven't talked to the boss about it but i'm sure if i take care of it he won't mind :) | 23:02 |
| flexiondotorg | Boss? | 23:03 |
| wxl | Julien Lavergne aka gilir | 23:03 |
| flexiondotorg | Ahh. OK, I know Julien from Arch. | 23:03 |
| wxl | we call him the boss, but he's our main developer and the primary proponent of Lubuntu over the years | 23:03 |
| flexiondotorg | So, I've just added a big if ubuntu-mate condition around the extra stuff. | 23:04 |
| phillw | as long as not an 'official' spin, it should be okay.. the ac100 team messed things up. | 23:04 |
| wxl | well it'd not like it's going to get build on launchpad, so, it's never really going to be official | 23:05 |
| flexiondotorg | I'm not planning to release anything. | 23:05 |
| flexiondotorg | I will privately share my build with you guys. | 23:05 |
| flexiondotorg | But I'd like to talk about the build system as a workshop for some older kids at OggCamp next week. | 23:05 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: but if i can massage it to work reliably, i'll just keep rolling with it. i got a pi2, so i can help test. | 23:06 |
| flexiondotorg | Just want to be able to show them how to do this and explain we are working together. | 23:06 |
| wxl | and, honestly, i'd buy a pi2 for the right tester to keep it going | 23:06 |
| flexiondotorg | No, not official. | 23:06 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll build again over the weekend. | 23:07 |
| flexiondotorg | I takes a couple of hours on my laptop. | 23:07 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: yeah i didn't mean that THIS image would be official, but perhaps someday in the near future. | 23:07 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, hat I was thinking. | 23:07 |
| ianorlin | hmm I wonder if my desktop could build it faster | 23:07 |
| flexiondotorg | ianorlin, It is mostly IO. | 23:08 |
| flexiondotorg | I have an i3 with 8GB and SSDs. | 23:08 |
| flexiondotorg | Here are the basic instructions. | 23:08 |
| flexiondotorg | Code is here - https://bitbucket.org/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-rpi2/overview | 23:08 |
| flexiondotorg | Clone it. | 23:08 |
| flexiondotorg | Modify build-settings.sh, should be obvious. | 23:09 |
| flexiondotorg | All you need to change is: | 23:09 |
| flexiondotorg | FLAVOUR="lubuntu" | 23:09 |
| flexiondotorg | FLAVOUR_NAME="Lubuntu" | 23:09 |
| flexiondotorg | Then run sudo ./build-image.sh | 23:09 |
| flexiondotorg | It will run to completion automatically. | 23:10 |
| flexiondotorg | You'll end up with a generic rootfs (no kernel or boot loader). | 23:10 |
| flexiondotorg | And an image. | 23:10 |
| flexiondotorg | dd the image to microSHDC and you'll have 100% Lubuntu. | 23:10 |
| flexiondotorg | Now I've remove the Pi stuff, it will all work, and look, just like Lubuntu on PC. | 23:11 |
| flexiondotorg | If you have fixes, pull requests please. | 23:11 |
| wxl | i was just reading the code, but that answers my question | 23:11 |
| flexiondotorg | If you've no objection I'd like to use this for Show and Tell and UOS and a workshop at OggCamp. | 23:12 |
| flexiondotorg | OK with you guys? | 23:12 |
| flexiondotorg | I'm not going to distribute a Lubuntu image. | 23:12 |
| phillw | good with me, lubuntu is a base for community spins :) | 23:13 |
| flexiondotorg | But I'm more than happy to help you get a perfect Lubuntu replica on the Pi 2 you can make available when it suits you. | 23:13 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, You OK with what I'm proposing/ | 23:16 |
| flexiondotorg | ? | 23:16 |
| wxl | yes, please, flexiondotorg ! | 23:17 |
| flexiondotorg | :-) | 23:17 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll respin Lubuntu here to share with you if you don't getthe chance to play yourself :-) | 23:18 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: have you tried with any other armhf devices? | 23:18 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll start preparing my workshop talk on Monday for OggCamp :-) | 23:18 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, I make an armhs generic image. | 23:19 |
| wxl | please share it, flexiondotorg (assuming video/audio is available) | 23:19 |
| flexiondotorg | Which has been used to make Ubuntu MATE for Banana Pi Pro. | 23:19 |
| flexiondotorg | Also O-DROIDs default OS is Ubuntu with the MATE desktop. | 23:19 |
| flexiondotorg | Not Ubuntu MATE. | 23:19 |
| wxl | it says armhf on your README :) | 23:19 |
| flexiondotorg | I've seen videos on YuTube for other devices. | 23:20 |
| flexiondotorg | I've got an ODROID C-1 I want to get it working on. | 23:20 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, Will share talk/presenation. | 23:20 |
| flexiondotorg | You can join UOS :-) | 23:21 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll try an get you an image to play with by Monday. | 23:21 |
| flexiondotorg | Late here, so time for sleeping. | 23:21 |
| flexiondotorg | Night. | 23:21 |
| phillw | flexiondotorg: does this have all I need for lubuntu on pi2 ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vilros-Raspberry-Pi---Complete-Cable--WiFi/dp/B00T53135O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1445555727&sr=8-2&keywords=rasberry+pi2 | 23:21 |
| phillw | or wxl if flex has headed to his alcove :) | 23:22 |
| wxl | phillw: an hdmi display | 23:23 |
| phillw | have a 42" one in front room :) | 23:23 |
| phillw | just connected piglet to it tonight. Didn't realise new piglet didn't have a VGA port on it and had to order an hdmi lead :D | 23:24 |
| wxl | i can't wait for displays to default to hdmi | 23:29 |
| ianorlin | wxl I have one with vga dvi and hdmi | 23:29 |
| wxl | nice ianorlin | 23:29 |
| ianorlin | 21 inch and switches to active 1080p isp panel by asus | 23:29 |
| ianorlin | well and a 23 inch one | 23:29 |
| phillw | this telly runs at a larger HD picture than my laptop screen :D | 23:43 |
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