[00:00] <flexiondotorg> tsimonq2, Um, OK?
[00:00] <tsimonq2> and you are by chance Martin Wimpress, correct?
[00:00] <flexiondotorg> What did I know?
[00:00] <flexiondotorg> I am.
[00:00] <flexiondotorg> tsimonq2, Why do you ask?
[00:00] <tsimonq2> are you not on Linux UNplugged sometimes?
[00:00] <tsimonq2> because I thought
[00:00] <flexiondotorg> I am.
[00:00] <tsimonq2> huh
[00:00] <tsimonq2> wow
[00:00] <tsimonq2> I keep meeting you people around here that are regulars on there
[00:00] <ianorlin> My microphone and audio quality are quite bad though
[00:00] <wxl> i'm pretty sure tsimonq2 is linux unplugged's biggest fan
[00:01] <tsimonq2> I just thought that was significant
[00:01] <flexiondotorg> Why don't you join us/
[00:01] <flexiondotorg> It's fun.
[00:01] <tsimonq2> I am 13...my brothers are usually blasting TV when it is happening
[00:01] <tsimonq2> but wait...can I join the Mumble room anytime?
[00:02] <ianorlin> tsimonq2: that is better than having your dad yell at your mom in the background
[00:02] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: divorced parents
[00:02] <tsimonq2> :P
[00:02] <ianorlin> mine are not yet
[00:02] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: could I join the mumble room now?
[00:02] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: or is it only during shows?
[00:02] <flexiondotorg> Yep, it's always open.
[00:03] <tsimonq2> oh
[00:03] <tsimonq2> my
[00:03] <tsimonq2> god
[00:03] <flexiondotorg> Often people in there chatting.
[00:03] <wxl> oh no
[00:03] <flexiondotorg> Like a forum, but talking.
[00:03] <tsimonq2> yes yes yes
[00:03]  * wxl had a chance to be in a live audience on one fo their shows at Linuxfest Northwest this year
[00:03] <flexiondotorg> I use it to chat to the visually impaired and blind users.
[00:03]  * wxl didn't care enough
[00:04] <flexiondotorg> wxl, Where are you located?
[00:04] <wxl> flexiondotorg: eugene, oregon, usa
[00:04] <tsimonq2> wxl!
[00:04] <tsimonq2> what???????
[00:04] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: I launched Mumble, now what?
[00:04] <wxl> tsimonq2: well it was open to anyone there, really
[00:04] <tsimonq2> gosh darnit
[00:04] <flexiondotorg> wxl, Because I am thinking of making the trip to Linux Fest Nothwest next year.
[00:05] <wxl> flexiondotorg: oh dude, that was probably the best conference i've ever been to. i absolutely loved it.
[00:05] <wxl> i'm sort of sad i'm missing SeaGL, but i've got some folks from our oregon loco on the way up there
[00:05] <tsimonq2> GAHD
[00:06] <flexiondotorg> tsimonq2, Mumble info - Server: mumble.jupitercolony.com, Port: 64734
[00:06] <tsimonq2> you people need to fly me out to these things
[00:06] <tsimonq2> XD
[00:06] <wxl> tsimonq2: canonical's paying for it. it's one of the joys of being in a loco. you can be there to advocate for ubuntu. it doesn't involve work, though, running a booth for 2 days straight
[00:08] <tsimonq2> umm
[00:08] <tsimonq2> so
[00:08] <tsimonq2> umm
[00:08] <tsimonq2> what
[00:08] <tsimonq2> I am a member of the Wisconsin LoCo team
[00:08] <wxl> right
[00:08] <tsimonq2> does that mean?
[00:08] <tsimonq2> no
[00:08] <wxl> so there's probably a conference nearby you can advocate for
[00:08] <tsimonq2> NO FREAKING WAY
[00:09] <wxl> https://forms.canonical.com/cda/
[00:09] <wxl> TECHNICALLY, canonical does not pay for it
[00:09] <wxl> the community council authorizes it
[00:09] <wxl> canonical acts as a broker for the money
[00:09] <wxl> but the money originates from community conations
[00:09] <wxl> donations
[00:11] <wxl> holy wiki man
[00:11] <wxl> these people are never prepared
[00:12]  * wxl shakes his head in shame
[00:13] <flexiondotorg> wxl, I hear good things about it.
[00:13] <flexiondotorg> So I've been saving up.
[00:13] <wxl> flexiondotorg: it's the real deal when it comes to being community oriented
[00:15] <wxl> flexiondotorg: way better than oscon, imho.
[00:16] <flexiondotorg> Yeah, the two I've always wanted to attend a LFNW and Linux.conf.au
[00:16] <flexiondotorg> We've got OggCamp end of next week which is also very community orientated.
[00:16] <wxl> yeah you're the 2nd person to mention it this week
[00:16] <wxl> sounds like something to go to
[00:16] <flexiondotorg> Is actually a Free Culture Unconference.
[00:16] <flexiondotorg> It's epic
[00:16] <wxl> at first i thought it might be a xiph conference ;)
[00:17] <flexiondotorg> This year, all delegates will get an RFID tag.
[00:17] <flexiondotorg> To track the scores in a Raspberry Pi power Nerf gun competition.
[00:17] <flexiondotorg> It's free.
[00:17] <flexiondotorg> The event.
[00:17] <flexiondotorg> Or you can choose to pay.
[00:18] <flexiondotorg> Very family friendly.
[00:22] <wxl> flexiondotorg: if you do come to this neck of the woods, let me know. chances are our loco will be back at lfnw.
[00:22] <flexiondotorg> wxl, I absolutely will!
[00:23] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: I am all set up
[00:24] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: And I am in the lobby
[00:24] <wxl> ok i'm done
[00:25] <flexiondotorg> tsimonq2, OK. I'not on Mumble right now.
[00:25] <wxl> night all. thanks for the help everyone, esp phillw and tsimonq2 for banging out the tests :)
[00:25] <tsimonq2> Ok :)
[00:25] <tsimonq2> good night sir wxl
[00:25] <flexiondotorg> But is anyone else on?
[00:25] <tsimonq2> umm ShaunPC
[00:25] <tsimonq2> uhhh
[00:25] <flexiondotorg> Just say Hello and talk.
[00:25] <tsimonq2> let me take a screenshot for you
[00:25] <tsimonq2> I know
[00:25] <flexiondotorg> It is usually busy around show time.
[00:33] <phillw> tc wxl
[01:08] <phillw> tsimonq2:  even!!
[15:52] <phillw> right, wiki pages updated and mirror turned on.
[16:40] <phillw> wxl: I've remembered to edit the testing page so that only 14.04 step release is under test :)
[16:52] <wxl> phillw: so you did edit the testing page or i need to?
[16:52] <phillw> i did :)
[16:52] <redwolf> wxl, hjalp!
[16:53] <redwolf> I need the twitter password. in pm. now. plase.
[16:54] <redwolf> sorry, HJÄLP
[16:58] <phillw> redwolf: iirc, lubuntu follows me, if you want me to tweet?
[22:46] <flexiondotorg> wxl, Ping
[22:46] <flexiondotorg> wxl, I've got Lubuntu 15.10 running on my Pi 2 ;-)
[22:46] <wxl> flexiondotorg: nice! i'm jealous!
[22:46] <flexiondotorg> First effort was 95% success.
[22:46] <wxl> and the other 5%?
[22:46] <flexiondotorg> So, I bundle some Raspberry Pi "stuff" in Ubuntu MATE for the Pi 2.
[22:46] <flexiondotorg> Scratch, Minecraft Pi, Sonic Pi etc.
[22:47] <flexiondotorg> They have quite a lot of deps.
[22:47] <flexiondotorg> Do you want that stuff in Lubuntu?
[22:47] <wxl> naw
[22:47] <flexiondotorg> Makes it quite bug. Scratch is not currently working
[22:47] <flexiondotorg> OK.
[22:47] <flexiondotorg> So if I strip out the Pi stuff, I just make what is essentially Lubuntu then?
[22:48] <wxl> yes
[22:48] <flexiondotorg> OK, will do.
[22:48] <wxl> awesome!
[22:48] <flexiondotorg> I'll spin another image.
[22:48] <flexiondotorg> Latest will be next Monday.
[22:48] <wxl> hey while you're here, question— you know much about snappy personal?
[22:48] <flexiondotorg> wxl, I've had a few one to ones.
[22:48] <flexiondotorg> I watch all the UOS stuff.
[22:48] <flexiondotorg> Have a quick play.
[22:49] <wxl> flexiondotorg: is it going to be something where you can use different desktop environments?
[22:49] <flexiondotorg> Understand snapcraft but not made my own snap yet.
[22:49] <flexiondotorg> wxl, Something I've discussed.
[22:49] <flexiondotorg> I know the theory.
[22:49] <flexiondotorg> Until Xmir is in Snappy, No.
[22:49] <wxl> ok
[22:50] <flexiondotorg> But is something I really want to experiment with, but not for 16.04.
[22:50] <wxl> from sabdfl's post on xenial, it kind of sounds like they're targeting x cycle for the official release
[22:50] <flexiondotorg> At least, not a release version.
[22:50] <flexiondotorg> wxl, Yeah, for an experimental version.
[22:50] <wxl> oh
[22:50] <flexiondotorg> But, they can use Mir.
[22:50] <flexiondotorg> We need Xmir.
[22:51] <wxl> xmir is a bridge between x and mir?
[22:51] <flexiondotorg> wxl, Anyway Lubuntu on Pi has oem-config as first setup wizard and everything appears to work.
[22:51] <flexiondotorg> Yes.
[22:51] <wxl> k cool i'll watch that carefully
[22:51] <flexiondotorg> Not currently in Snappy. Coming though.
[22:51] <wxl> flexiondotorg: well if all is well and good with the build, let me know the full instructions and i'll see if i can't replicate
[22:52] <flexiondotorg> wxl, One sec.
[22:53] <flexiondotorg> wxl, Do you mind if I start teasing this is in the works?
[22:55] <flexiondotorg> I was thinking I might cover this Pi 2 stuff as a UOS show and tell.
[22:55] <flexiondotorg> Also thought I might use it the basis of a talk at OggCamp.
[22:55] <flexiondotorg> wxl, BTW, Xubuntu turned down the opportunity.
[22:59] <phillw> sounds fun :)
[23:02] <wxl> oops sorry disappeared
[23:02] <wxl> table tennis XD
[23:02] <wxl> flexiondotorg: i haven't talked to the boss about it but i'm sure if i take care of it he won't mind :)
[23:03] <flexiondotorg> Boss?
[23:03] <wxl> Julien Lavergne aka gilir
[23:03] <flexiondotorg> Ahh. OK, I know Julien from Arch.
[23:03] <wxl> we call him the boss, but he's our main developer and the primary proponent of Lubuntu over the years
[23:04] <flexiondotorg> So, I've just added a big if ubuntu-mate condition around the extra stuff.
[23:04] <phillw> as long as not an 'official' spin, it should be okay.. the ac100 team messed things up.
[23:05] <wxl> well it'd not like it's going to get build on launchpad, so, it's never really going to be official
[23:05] <flexiondotorg> I'm not planning to release anything.
[23:05] <flexiondotorg> I will privately share my build with you guys.
[23:05] <flexiondotorg> But I'd like to talk about the build system as a workshop for some older kids at OggCamp next week.
[23:06] <wxl> flexiondotorg: but if i can massage it to work reliably, i'll just keep rolling with it. i got a pi2, so i can help test.
[23:06] <flexiondotorg> Just want to be able to show them how to do this and explain we are working together.
[23:06] <wxl> and, honestly, i'd buy a pi2 for the right tester to keep it going
[23:06] <flexiondotorg> No, not official.
[23:07] <flexiondotorg> I'll build again over the weekend.
[23:07] <flexiondotorg> I takes a couple of hours on my laptop.
[23:07] <wxl> flexiondotorg: yeah i didn't mean that THIS image would be official, but perhaps someday in the near future.
[23:07] <flexiondotorg> wxl, hat I was thinking.
[23:07] <ianorlin> hmm I wonder if my desktop could build it faster
[23:08] <flexiondotorg> ianorlin, It is mostly IO.
[23:08] <flexiondotorg> I have an i3 with 8GB and SSDs.
[23:08] <flexiondotorg> Here are the basic instructions.
[23:08] <flexiondotorg> Code is here - https://bitbucket.org/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-rpi2/overview
[23:08] <flexiondotorg> Clone it.
[23:09] <flexiondotorg> Modify build-settings.sh, should be obvious.
[23:09] <flexiondotorg> All you need to change is:
[23:09] <flexiondotorg> FLAVOUR="lubuntu"
[23:09] <flexiondotorg> FLAVOUR_NAME="Lubuntu"
[23:09] <flexiondotorg> Then run sudo ./build-image.sh
[23:10] <flexiondotorg> It will run to completion automatically.
[23:10] <flexiondotorg> You'll end up with a generic rootfs (no kernel or boot loader).
[23:10] <flexiondotorg> And an image.
[23:10] <flexiondotorg> dd the image to microSHDC and you'll have 100% Lubuntu.
[23:11] <flexiondotorg> Now I've remove the Pi stuff, it will all work, and look, just like Lubuntu on PC.
[23:11] <flexiondotorg> If you have fixes, pull requests please.
[23:11] <wxl> i was just reading the code, but that answers my question
[23:12] <flexiondotorg> If you've no objection I'd like to use this for Show and Tell and UOS and a workshop at OggCamp.
[23:12] <flexiondotorg> OK with you guys?
[23:12] <flexiondotorg> I'm not going to distribute a Lubuntu image.
[23:13] <phillw> good with me, lubuntu is a base for community spins :)
[23:13] <flexiondotorg> But I'm more than happy to help you get a perfect Lubuntu replica on the Pi 2 you can make available when it suits you.
[23:16] <flexiondotorg> wxl, You OK with what I'm proposing/
[23:16] <flexiondotorg> ?
[23:17] <wxl> yes, please, flexiondotorg !
[23:17] <flexiondotorg> :-)
[23:18] <flexiondotorg> I'll respin Lubuntu here to share with you if you don't getthe chance to play yourself :-)
[23:18] <wxl> flexiondotorg: have you tried with any other armhf devices?
[23:18] <flexiondotorg> I'll start preparing my workshop talk on Monday for OggCamp :-)
[23:19] <flexiondotorg> wxl, I make an armhs generic image.
[23:19] <wxl> please share it, flexiondotorg (assuming video/audio is available)
[23:19] <flexiondotorg> Which has been used to make Ubuntu MATE for Banana Pi Pro.
[23:19] <flexiondotorg> Also O-DROIDs default OS is Ubuntu with the MATE desktop.
[23:19] <flexiondotorg> Not Ubuntu MATE.
[23:19] <wxl> it says armhf on your README :)
[23:20] <flexiondotorg> I've seen videos on YuTube for other devices.
[23:20] <flexiondotorg> I've got an ODROID C-1 I want to get it working on.
[23:20] <flexiondotorg> wxl, Will share talk/presenation.
[23:21] <flexiondotorg> You can join UOS :-)
[23:21] <flexiondotorg> I'll try an get you an image to play with by Monday.
[23:21] <flexiondotorg> Late here, so time for sleeping.
[23:21] <flexiondotorg> Night.
[23:21] <phillw> flexiondotorg: does this have all I need for lubuntu on pi2 ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vilros-Raspberry-Pi---Complete-Cable--WiFi/dp/B00T53135O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1445555727&sr=8-2&keywords=rasberry+pi2
[23:22] <phillw> or wxl if flex has headed to his alcove :)
[23:23] <wxl> phillw: an hdmi display
[23:23] <phillw> have a 42" one in front room :)
[23:24] <phillw> just connected piglet to it tonight. Didn't realise new piglet didn't have a VGA port on it and had to order an hdmi lead :D
[23:29] <wxl> i can't wait for displays to default to hdmi
[23:29] <ianorlin> wxl I have one with vga dvi and hdmi
[23:29] <wxl> nice ianorlin
[23:29] <ianorlin> 21 inch and switches to active 1080p isp panel by asus
[23:29] <ianorlin> well and a 23 inch one
[23:43] <phillw> this telly runs at a larger HD picture than my laptop screen :D