[00:20] :( tj left [00:21] i reckon his Huskies smuggled him away from the PC :> [00:21] i had another java question for him [00:22] stupid java and its signed everythings [04:58] good morning to all [05:03] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-be-called-xenial-xerus-495026.shtml [05:03] yessss [05:03] XX is born [05:10] !xenial [05:10] Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [05:34] travnewmatic: morning [05:42] greetings everybody [05:42] new here [05:42] hi there [05:42] hi lotus [05:42] wich ubuntu version are you on bohemiandan81 [05:42] I am on a fairly fresh version of ubuntu [05:42] i will have to check the version [05:42] bohemiandan81: lsb_release -a from terminal [05:43] 14.04 i believe [05:43] great [05:43] bohemiandan81: welcome to the community [05:44] thank you. happy to be here [05:44] bohemiandan81: if you need anything or have questions, welcome to ask them in #ubuntu [05:44] i am definitely a noob at this, but I will be going to school for net security and would like to have a firm knowledge of linux before i start classes [05:45] !manual | bohemiandan81 start here :p [05:45] bohemiandan81 start here :p: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [05:46] thank you. can I ask some more questions? [05:46] sure mate [05:47] once I have a grasp on the usage of linux, what would you recommend i focus on next in terms of useful skills for networking? [05:47] bohemiandan81: it all depends what you wanna do mate [05:48] bohemiandan81: many erea's to explore [05:48] area [05:48] that makes sense [05:48] I would like to be in network security [05:49] bohemiandan81: the ##networking guys are specialist for this.. [05:49] !security | bohemiandan81 or read here also [05:49] bohemiandan81 or read here also: Security Updates are dealt with here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server [05:50] excellent, thank you. [05:50] bohemiandan81: there is also ubuntu server, if you interested in the networking part [05:50] bohemiandan81: #ubuntu-server [05:50] bohemiandan81: join a few channels, idle and make up your mind where to go :p [05:51] that sounds like a fair plan to pursue [05:51] thank you for your assistance, i appreciate it. [05:51] no sweat mate [05:52] depo: welcome [05:52] are there any etiquette rules in these rooms or is it just generally "don't be a turd"? [05:52] !rules [05:52] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [05:52] thanks again [05:53] no prob mate, welcome to the ubuntu community [05:53] bohemiandan81: this channel here, is more for ubuntu discussions [05:54] bohemiandan81: ass #ubuntu-offtopic is for more far away chitchat [05:54] okay. gotcha. i was recommended here by the people at #ubuntu [05:54] yeah lol that was me [05:57] nice. well, at present im not sure what all to ask, so I will start by reading the manual, then I will proceed to lurk a bit and get a feel for where I would like to focus. [05:57] and while Im here I will be nice, helpful when I can be, respectful always, and not make a nuisance of myself in general. [05:58] bohemiandan81: if you like networking and security, there's alot to learn and handy packages out there [05:58] bohemiandan81: thats a great attitude [05:59] thanks. it seems to just be a great way to be when around people. [05:59] it's not as easy irl but im working on it. [06:00] where would i find those aforementioned packages, so that I can make a note of it and do some research? [06:00] bohemiandan81: i would start first wich way to go, what will you been doing [06:00] bohemiandan81: when knowing, you will come to the right packages [06:01] that also makes a lot of sense. I will stick with my plan then. Read, lurk, interact when ready. lol [06:01] bohemiandan81: example: you want an own network with ubuntu-server and start tighten security=get network security tools [06:02] that would be cool. [06:03] hello, is there any official page or smth "time left until 15.10" ? [06:03] !wily | depo [06:03] depo: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [06:03] !releases | depo [06:03] depo: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [06:03] depo: normally it will be during the day of 23 [06:04] hey lotus, thank you for your time and attention tonight. Im gonna get started on the reading right now. [06:04] because i'am in europe, its already 22 :) [06:04] bohemiandan81: good luck! [06:04] most of my free time is around this time so I am sure I will see you again. [06:04] thanks for the help :) [06:04] thank you, im sure Im gonna need a bit of luck before this adventure is through. lol [06:04] have a good night. [06:04] bohemiandan81: this adventure never ends :p [06:05] whew, i was afraid of what I would be doing if it ever did end. [06:05] bohemiandan81: ive been on ubuntu for years and still learning every day [06:05] i like that. [06:05] do i need to announce afk as a courtesy when i go? [06:06] bohemiandan81: better just idle and not too much advertising around [06:06] gotcha. see you soon, im sure. night. [06:06] nite nite [11:20] Daekdroom: afrernoon [11:20] morning [11:20] new lts is born [11:21] !xenial [11:21] Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [11:21] I'm aware. [11:44] hi eric [11:45] hi lotuspsychje [11:45] EriC^^: did you see new lts name [11:45] haha yeah [11:45] :p [11:45] :D [11:48] cfhowletttttt!!!! [11:48] spartaaaaaa!!!!!! [11:48] lol [11:48] xeniallllllll [11:48] !xenial | cfhowlett [11:48] cfhowlett: Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [11:49] not getting alpha for 2 months probably [11:49] xenial???!!!! seriously??? [11:49] I is disappointed [11:49] what did you expect [11:49] cfhowlett: what did you wanted ? [11:49] xylophonesque? [11:49] looool [11:49] and what the hell is a xerus [11:50] a groundhog from africa something [11:50] http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/parts-of-speech/adjectives/adjectives-that-start-with-x.html [11:51] which one would you have picked [11:53] we have been discussing this before Ben64 was pretty good laugh :p [11:54] ioriaaaaaaa [11:56] lotuspsychjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, [11:56] lol [11:57] i wrote an instant message app ubu-win .... [11:57] lol? [11:57] in python [11:57] what does it do? [11:57] on win you have to install python and python gtk [11:58] it send short message [11:58] like "hello... have you done ?" [11:59] to where ioria [11:59] to your friend or collegue [11:59] on a lan [11:59] cool [12:00] once you could use smbclient ... and net send on win xp ... [12:00] now win 7 is different [12:03] i taught my friend the net send thing on windows once in uni [12:03] he went and sent it system wide to every body on campus [12:03] lol, jackass [12:03] lolllllllllllllllll [12:04] they came and told him wtf and he got into some trouble, he thought he was being funny or something [12:04] yeah [12:05] he was pretty funny in a sense though [12:05] he stole a telescope from uni and put it on his balcony [12:05] lol, he was a physics major [12:05] haha, he was like come over i want to show you mars or something [12:05] lol [12:05] "a beautiful mind"... [12:07] there is water on mars.... [12:07] yeah i read once there's like 10,000 planets where there should be water [12:07] they found water on mars though? for sure i mean? [12:08] pity... but maybe there is beer [12:08] lol [12:08] lol [12:08] stella artois, exactly [12:08] martian suds; the brew for when you're a long LONG way from home. [12:09] ^,,^ [12:09] belgian beer is the best indeed [12:10] pilsner [12:10] irish rocks, although [12:11] pilsner... interesting [12:12] its smooth and will like tennessee moonshine, catch you with your pants down [12:12] ^_^ [12:13] ewwwwwwwwwwww [12:13] http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/ [12:14] are these official or daily builds? [12:14] seems official.... [12:14] tnx to google [12:20] UbuCon [12:20] Canonical Revives the Ubuntu Developer Summit Event, Calls it UbuCon Summit [12:21] ! [12:21] really? link? [12:21] yeah readed that on softpedia [12:21] http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=220999 [12:21] * cfhowlett English Teacher senses tingling ..."readed"? [12:26] read [12:30] !party [12:30] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Vivid release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3075/ [12:31] for those who wanna pre-party [12:31] Vivid ? [12:31] lol [12:32] seems like someone needs to update trigger [12:32] lemme report to ops [12:32] werewolf is coming to turn you [12:33] grrrrrr [12:34] "An Ubuntu Werewolf in London" [12:34] lol [12:44] bbl guys [12:44] have a goog wily release! === g4mby is now known as PaulW2U [15:40] good evening guys [15:41] hallo \o how do? [15:41] hey daftykins :p [15:41] fine tnx mate [15:41] any fun customers out there in the real world of late? [15:42] bashing-om said you had fun recently with some user? [15:43] hmm, there are so many i can't think of just one :) [15:43] It's the aliens :) [15:44] lol [15:44] "In this test, the (Samsung) 950 Pro’s sequential read and write speeds actually exceed Samsung’s claims: the 256GB model peaked at 2299MB/sec sequential read and 944MB/sec write; the 512GB model hit 2592MB/sec read and 1525MB/sec write." [15:45] oO [15:45] ah, PCI-Express direct attached SSDs with the NVMe protocol :> [15:46] so a sata version of 950 wont be possible right only nvm? [15:48] there wouldn't be any point, SATA has been rubbish for ages :) [15:48] if you look at any SSD benchmark sites, pretty much every single recently released one now just groups together at the maximum SATA 6Gbps speeds [15:48] daftykins: so you think future pc's will ditch sata? [15:49] no, they already have :D [15:49] lol [15:49] i did a build over a year ago now where there's a nice M.2 slot directly beneath the CPU socket on a cheap i3 haswell build [15:49] daftykins: but i will have manu customers with 'older' pc's to upgrade to ubuntu + ssd +sata [15:49] the boot speeds are just crazy [15:49] well the 850s will stay around :) [15:50] yeah and 10 years warranty [15:50] i don't think that'll matter much, 3D NAND is so much more tolerant [15:51] daftykins: so you suggest i buy barebones with M.2 in the future [15:52] oh for the love of Tux, PanV is back [15:52] +query ubottu [15:52] lotuspsychje: yep, at least when performance is in the criteria [15:52] ok tnx for the hint daftykins [15:52] no problemo :) [15:53] you might want to read up on M.2, as not every socket was born equal [15:53] they all have different forms =| [15:53] m2 is the future indeed, avoiding the SSD hog. [15:53] http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/02/understanding-m-2-the-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/ [15:53] does all m.2 have that nvm? [15:53] especially MLC multilevel cel i understand [15:54] NVMe is protocol level so it'd be implemented by the systems EFI [15:55] ok [15:55] lemme read that brb [15:55] hmm these reviews seem to state there are still plenty of power management bugs to work out [15:57] upgrading my external disk to wolfy .... [16:00] good evening wileee [16:01] morning [16:02] wileee: wily is out and xenial is born :p [16:02] be nice once February is here and 15.04 is dead, then it's back to just 3 releases [16:03] precise dies also soon right [16:05] flash player is really having some big problems.... i keep it just to see how many damages can do .... [16:06] ioria: how do you test [16:06] watching my firefox page graying out [16:06] irresponsive ... some minutes .... [16:07] ioria: system76 ditched flash player on their machines [16:07] sometimes irrecoverable [16:07] yeah [16:09] especially when the page has that flash-advertising window [16:11] ioria: i wonder if system76 still uses firefox then? [16:11] ive also read some distro uses a tuned firefox with the peperflash from chromium [16:12] well, there are wrappers for firefox and derivatives [16:12] addons? [16:13] no, ppa but they don't work very well, like Fresh Player [16:13] they use pepper [16:14] libpepflashplugin.... works only on youtube and few sites [16:14] !info freshplayerplugin [16:14] Package freshplayerplugin does not exist in vivid [16:14] ppa indeed [16:15] basically they take pepper from chrome and adapt it for firefox ... [16:15] would be nice to have something like that in repos [16:16] and take flashplugin out of restricted-extras [16:16] yep... still testing [16:16] maybe in xenial..who knows [16:17] http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/fresh-player-plugin-sees-new-release.html [16:18] ioria: ive also read canonical is thinking of default browser on future versions [16:19] ioria: you know wich plugin webbrowser-app uses? [16:19] flash or pepper [16:19] really ? interesting .... no, sorry [16:20] there is also adobe-flashplugin from Canonical Partner... you have to enable the repo [16:20] i think Google made a mistake pushing pepperflash, it's just allowing it to stay around longer [16:20] websites should start being shamed for having non-HTML5 players [16:20] yeah very vulnarable [16:20] html5 is very interesting .... [16:23] https://www.dropbox.com/s/xexf5e5n0879ok8/IMG_20151022_171525.jpg?dl=0 [16:24] i just decided to virtualise Apples latest and greatest ;) [16:25] daftykins: looks like docky :p [16:25] *shrug* [16:26] w10 on the left? [16:26] nice [16:27] yep [16:27] don't worry the KiTTY session is to an ubuntu server ;) [16:27] lol [16:28] microsoft appologized for pushing w10 unchosen updates :p [16:29] wow ... the 4. kernel ... [16:30] cpu pentium t4500, usb drive - complete upgrade , 28 minutes [16:30] ioria: nice1 [16:30] let's see ... now [16:31] ioria: 4.2 OR 4.3 NOW? [16:31] oops [16:31] give me a sec .... [16:31] sure [16:32] 4.2.0-16-generic [16:33] ok tnx ioria [16:33] np [16:57] ubottu is already working for wily... [17:01] mmhmm [17:03] !info rar [17:03] rar (source: rar): Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2:5.2.1b2-1 (vivid), package size 547 kB, installed size 1486 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) [17:03] !info rar wily [17:03] rar (source: rar): Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2:5.3.b2-1 (wily), package size 546 kB, installed size 1451 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) [17:04] hmm so it's not become the default yet [17:04] well, different bot [17:04] lotuspsychje, test ubottu in pm [17:05] ioria: yep shows docky for wily now [17:05] weird [17:06] ioria: maybe ubottu needs a restart or something first [17:08] yep [17:13] ioria: webbrower-app gets detected as chromium 35 and adobe flash doesnt get detected [17:13] playing youtubes flawless [17:14] !info chromium-browser wily [17:14] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 45.0.2454.101-0ubuntu1.1201 (wily), package size 53636 kB, installed size 197682 kB [17:14] !info webbrower-app [17:14] Package webbrower-app does not exist in vivid [17:15] !info webbrowser-app [17:15] webbrowser-app (source: webbrowser-app): Ubuntu web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 0.23+15.04.20150416-0ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 709 kB, installed size 1572 kB [17:15] i used a browser/flash detect website [17:16] !info webbrowser-app wily [17:16] webbrowser-app (source: webbrowser-app): Ubuntu web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 0.23+15.10.20150929-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 721 kB, installed size 1928 kB [17:16] for adobe you have to enable the repo [17:17] yeah i dont want adobe [17:17] just wanted to test whats default in webbrowser-app [17:17] trying to find peperflash detectors online now [17:30] hi there Bashing-om [17:31] lotuspsychje: o/ Hey ! .. Release day .. how much of a pounding are we taking ? [17:32] Bashing-om: 15.10 issues are very calm, the community very active discussing in channels [17:32] Bashing-om: and !xenial is born :p [17:33] oh... really ? [17:34] lotuspsychje: Good deal .. good news, I was and am expeccting a pounding for FGLRX in 15.10 // NOT ! . [17:34] ioria: born as in codename :p [17:34] !xenial [17:34] Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [17:34] Not just as XX; toolchain upload tonight [17:35] TJ-: but we have to wait to join #ubuntu+1 some more time right? [17:35] Well, it's development so -devel of course :) [17:35] kk [17:36] TJ-: #ubuntu-release is spamming xenial stuff all over :p [17:36] +1 is for when the alpha/beta ISO releases go out really [17:36] ah right [17:36] I wonder why? Not like that channel would get lots of drive-by drop-ins; must annoy the regulars [17:37] 161 users and active atm [17:47] TJ-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule [17:47] its gonna be a happy newyear [17:50] heh, lets hope it dont collapse beforehand [17:51] ubuntu or the world :p [17:51] woohoo [17:52] * HackerII is waiting for 16.04 [17:52] december 31 and lets do some heavy bug hunting :p [17:52] then my next goal in life will be converting all machines in the worl to xenial [17:52] and beat gill bates [17:53] we have enough bugs in the whitehouse, we need a professional terminex [17:53] ya [17:53] beat bill [17:53] lol [17:53] he and hillary should get a room together [17:54] http://shirtoid.com/52849/bug-hunters/ [17:55] lolz [17:56] Looks like kubuntu is going to peter out now, which is a shame [17:56] howso? [17:57] Jonathan Riddell has stepped down as release manager. You recall the bust-up with Canonical earlier in the year, well he's had enough [17:58] He's 1 of only 2 majorly competent packaging devs for KDE/Kubuntu. The others are well-meaning amateurs but haven't yet built up the skill set to fill his place. [18:02] i can do it [18:02] in my sleep [18:02] el oh el [18:02] lol [18:03] i have special tech meds [18:03] circuital, resisterol, and cputol [18:04] rohipnol i know... [18:04] and so the masses are flooding in [18:05] daftykins: yep, lucky us to solve :p [18:18] hi philipballew [18:20] o/ [18:21] lotuspsychje, hello. What are you up to? [18:21] we're battling the hordes of 15.10 upgraders. [18:21] philipballew: wily is out and !xenial is born [18:22] plenty to do :p [18:22] lotuspsychje, I ungraded last week for all my machines. [18:22] nice [18:22] Tonight I am gonna hit askubuntu and try to answer as many questions as I can. [18:22] if I finish that, then the forms [18:23] philipballew: didnt knew you also do support [18:23] lotuspsychje, I do everything I can for Ubuntu [18:23] nice1 [18:23] im not as skilled as some, but I do all that I can [18:23] lotuspsychje, where in the world are you now? [18:23] philipballew: Bashing-om will be your mate then, he also support the ubuntuforums [18:23] i tried a few askubuntu ones once, but it's annoying not having realtime info [18:23] philipballew: .be @ 20h23 [18:23] plus you wonder if they go off and try things before they get to your reply ;) [18:24] daftykins, its a mind of its own for sure [18:24] its a good way if you already know the answer [18:24] i like askbuntu answers as they get voted [18:24] yay fixed my first 15.10 issue [18:24] daftykins: wich would that be? [18:25] guy with a Dell, synaptics touchpad didn't work despite this Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896069/ [18:25] I once met a guy at starbcks who bought me coffee so I could install missing drivers on his laptop [18:25] so i found and suggested: http://askubuntu.com/questions/623598/dell-inspiron-7347-inactive-cursor-with-my-touchpad-on-ubuntu-14-04 [18:25] philipballew: haha :D *buntu? [18:25] daftykins, totally was! [18:26] ah yess, we seen this on 15.04 too quiet splash i8042.nopnp [18:26] maybe i'll write a blog post about it so folks find results online [18:27] you have a blogger daftykins ? [18:28] I could write a blog post about daftykins writing a blog post. [18:28] well, i haven't written anything since like 2 years ago and i just run it from home so it's not very reliable (dynamic IP) [18:28] lol [18:28] yay lets all blog circularly [18:28] :p [18:29] would be nice to log all solved issues + what solved it [18:29] trouble is it all becomes obsolete so fast [18:30] lotuspsychje: ^ now we talking - build a data base ! [18:30]