[00:20] <Ben64> :( tj left
[00:21] <daftykins> i reckon his Huskies smuggled him away from the PC :>
[00:21] <Ben64> i had another java question for him
[00:22] <Ben64> stupid java and its signed everythings
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-be-called-xenial-xerus-495026.shtml
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> yessss
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> XX is born
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !xenial
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> travnewmatic: morning
[05:42] <bohemiandan81> greetings everybody
[05:42] <bohemiandan81> new here
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> hi there
[05:42] <bohemiandan81> hi lotus
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> wich ubuntu version are you on bohemiandan81
[05:42] <bohemiandan81> I am on a fairly fresh version of ubuntu
[05:42] <bohemiandan81> i will have to check the version
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: lsb_release -a from terminal
[05:43] <bohemiandan81> 14.04 i believe
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> great
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: welcome to the community
[05:44] <bohemiandan81> thank you. happy to be here
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: if you need anything or have questions, welcome to ask them in #ubuntu
[05:44] <bohemiandan81> i am definitely a noob at this, but I will be going to school for net security and would like to have a firm knowledge of linux before i start classes
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !manual | bohemiandan81 start here :p
[05:46] <bohemiandan81> thank you. can I ask some more questions?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> sure mate
[05:47] <bohemiandan81> once I have a grasp on the usage of linux, what would you recommend i focus on next in terms of useful skills for networking?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: it all depends what you wanna do mate
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: many erea's to explore
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> area
[05:48] <bohemiandan81> that makes sense
[05:48] <bohemiandan81> I would like to be in network security
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: the ##networking guys are specialist for this..
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !security | bohemiandan81 or read here also
[05:50] <bohemiandan81> excellent, thank you.
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: there is also ubuntu server, if you interested in the networking part
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: #ubuntu-server
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: join a few channels, idle and make up your mind where to go :p
[05:51] <bohemiandan81> that sounds like a fair plan to pursue
[05:51] <bohemiandan81> thank you for your assistance, i appreciate it.
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> no sweat mate
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> depo: welcome
[05:52] <bohemiandan81> are there any etiquette rules in these rooms or is it just generally "don't be a turd"?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !rules
[05:52] <bohemiandan81> thanks again
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> no prob mate, welcome to the ubuntu community
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: this channel here, is more for ubuntu discussions
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: ass #ubuntu-offtopic is for more far away chitchat
[05:54] <bohemiandan81> okay. gotcha. i was recommended here by the people at #ubuntu
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah lol that was me
[05:57] <bohemiandan81> nice. well, at present im not sure what all to ask, so I will start by reading the manual, then I will proceed to lurk a bit and get a feel for where I would like to focus.
[05:57] <bohemiandan81> and while Im here I will be nice, helpful when I can be, respectful always, and not make a nuisance of myself in general.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: if you like networking and security, there's alot to learn and handy packages out there
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: thats a great attitude
[05:59] <bohemiandan81> thanks. it seems to just be a great way to be when around people.
[05:59] <bohemiandan81> it's not as easy irl but im working on it.
[06:00] <bohemiandan81> where would i find those aforementioned packages, so that I can make a note of it and do some research?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: i would start first wich way to go, what will you been doing
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: when knowing, you will come to the right packages
[06:01] <bohemiandan81> that also makes a lot of sense. I will stick with my plan then. Read, lurk, interact when ready. lol
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: example: you want an own network with ubuntu-server and start tighten security=get network security tools
[06:02] <bohemiandan81> that would be cool.
[06:03] <depo> hello, is there any official page or smth "time left until 15.10" ?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !wily | depo
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !releases | depo
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> depo: normally it will be during the day of 23
[06:04] <bohemiandan81> hey lotus, thank you for your time and attention tonight. Im gonna get started on the reading right now.
[06:04] <depo> because i'am in europe, its already 22 :)
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: good luck!
[06:04] <bohemiandan81> most of my free time is around this time so I am sure I will see you again.
[06:04] <depo> thanks for the help :)
[06:04] <bohemiandan81> thank you, im sure Im gonna need a bit of luck before this adventure is through. lol
[06:04] <bohemiandan81> have a good night.
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: this adventure never ends :p
[06:05] <bohemiandan81> whew, i was afraid of what I would be doing if it ever did end.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: ive been on ubuntu for years and still learning every day
[06:05] <bohemiandan81> i like that.
[06:05] <bohemiandan81> do i need to announce afk as a courtesy when i go?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: better just idle and not too much advertising around
[06:06] <bohemiandan81> gotcha. see you soon, im sure. night.
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> Daekdroom: afrernoon
[11:20] <Daekdroom> morning
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> new lts is born
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> !xenial
[11:21] <Daekdroom> I'm aware.
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> hi eric
[11:45] <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did you see new lts name
[11:45] <EriC^^> haha yeah
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:45] <EriC^^> :D
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> cfhowletttttt!!!!
[11:48] <cfhowlett> spartaaaaaa!!!!!!
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> xeniallllllll
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !xenial | cfhowlett
[11:49] <Ben64> not getting alpha for 2 months probably
[11:49] <cfhowlett> xenial???!!!! seriously???
[11:49] <cfhowlett> I is disappointed
[11:49] <Ben64> what did you expect
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: what did you wanted ?
[11:49] <Ben64> xylophonesque?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> looool
[11:49] <cfhowlett> and what the hell is a xerus
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> a groundhog from africa something
[11:50] <Ben64> http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/parts-of-speech/adjectives/adjectives-that-start-with-x.html
[11:51] <Ben64> which one would you have picked
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> we have been discussing this before Ben64 was pretty good laugh :p
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> ioriaaaaaaa
[11:56] <ioria> lotuspsychjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:57] <ioria> i wrote an instant message app ubu-win ....
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> lol?
[11:57] <ioria> in python
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> what does it do?
[11:57] <ioria> on win you have to install python and python gtk
[11:58] <ioria> it send short message
[11:58] <ioria> like "hello... have you done ?"
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> to where ioria
[11:59] <ioria> to your friend or collegue
[11:59] <ioria> on a lan
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> cool
[12:00] <ioria> once you could use smbclient ... and net send on win xp ...
[12:00] <ioria> now win 7 is different
[12:03] <EriC^^> i taught my friend the net send thing on windows once in uni
[12:03] <EriC^^> he went and sent it system wide to every body on campus
[12:03] <EriC^^> lol, jackass
[12:03] <ioria> lolllllllllllllllll
[12:04] <EriC^^> they came and told him wtf and he got into some trouble, he thought he was being funny or something
[12:04] <ioria> yeah
[12:05] <EriC^^> he was pretty funny in a sense though
[12:05] <EriC^^> he stole a telescope from uni and put it on his balcony
[12:05] <EriC^^> lol, he was a physics major
[12:05] <EriC^^> haha, he was like come over i want to show you mars or something
[12:05] <EriC^^> lol
[12:05] <ioria> "a beautiful mind"...
[12:07] <ioria> there is water on mars....
[12:07] <EriC^^> yeah i read once there's like 10,000 planets where there should be water
[12:07] <EriC^^> they found water on mars though? for sure i mean?
[12:08] <ioria> pity... but maybe there is beer
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:08] <EriC^^> lol
[12:08] <ioria> stella artois, exactly
[12:08] <cfhowlett> martian suds; the brew for when you're a long LONG way from home.
[12:09] <ioria> ^,,^
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> belgian beer is the best indeed
[12:10] <HackerII> pilsner
[12:10] <ioria> irish rocks, although
[12:11] <ioria> pilsner... interesting
[12:12] <HackerII> its smooth and will like tennessee moonshine, catch you with your pants down
[12:12] <ioria> ^_^
[12:13] <cfhowlett> ewwwwwwwwwwww
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> are these official or daily builds?
[12:14] <ioria> seems official....
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> tnx to google
[12:20] <HackerII> UbuCon
[12:20] <HackerII> Canonical Revives the Ubuntu Developer Summit Event, Calls it UbuCon Summit
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !
[12:21] <cfhowlett> really?  link?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah readed that on softpedia
[12:21] <HackerII> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=220999
[12:21]  * cfhowlett English Teacher senses tingling ..."readed"?  
[12:26] <ioria> read
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !party
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> for those who wanna pre-party
[12:31] <ioria> Vivid ?
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> seems like someone needs to update trigger
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> lemme report to ops
[12:32] <ioria> werewolf is coming to turn you
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> grrrrrr
[12:34] <ioria> "An Ubuntu Werewolf in London"
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> have a goog wily release!
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> good evening guys
[15:41] <daftykins> hallo \o how do?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins :p
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> fine tnx mate
[15:41] <daftykins> any fun customers out there in the real world of late?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> bashing-om said you had fun recently with some user?
[15:43] <daftykins> hmm, there are so many i can't think of just one :)
[15:43] <TJ-> It's the aliens :)
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:44] <daftykins> "In this test, the (Samsung) 950 Pro’s sequential read and write speeds actually exceed Samsung’s claims: the 256GB model peaked at 2299MB/sec sequential read and 944MB/sec write; the 512GB model hit 2592MB/sec read and 1525MB/sec write."
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> oO
[15:45] <daftykins> ah, PCI-Express direct attached SSDs with the NVMe protocol :>
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> so a sata version of 950 wont be possible right only nvm?
[15:48] <daftykins> there wouldn't be any point, SATA has been rubbish for ages :)
[15:48] <daftykins> if you look at any SSD benchmark sites, pretty much every single recently released one now just groups together at the maximum SATA 6Gbps speeds
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: so you think future pc's will ditch sata?
[15:49] <daftykins> no, they already have :D
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:49] <daftykins> i did a build over a year ago now where there's a nice M.2 slot directly beneath the CPU socket on a cheap i3 haswell build
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: but i will have manu customers with 'older' pc's to upgrade to ubuntu + ssd +sata
[15:49] <daftykins> the boot speeds are just crazy
[15:49] <daftykins> well the 850s will stay around :)
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> yeah and 10 years warranty
[15:50] <daftykins> i don't think that'll matter much, 3D NAND is so much more tolerant
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: so you suggest i buy barebones with M.2 in the future
[15:52] <daftykins> oh for the love of Tux, PanV is back
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> +query ubottu
[15:52] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: yep, at least when performance is in the criteria
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx for the hint daftykins
[15:52] <daftykins> no problemo :)
[15:53] <daftykins> you might want to read up on M.2, as not every socket was born equal
[15:53] <daftykins> they all have different forms =|
[15:53] <OerHeks> m2 is the future indeed, avoiding the SSD hog.
[15:53] <daftykins> http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/02/understanding-m-2-the-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> does all m.2 have that nvm?
[15:53] <OerHeks> especially MLC multilevel cel i understand
[15:54] <daftykins> NVMe is protocol level so it'd be implemented by the systems EFI
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> lemme read that brb
[15:55] <daftykins> hmm these reviews seem to state there are still plenty of power management bugs to work out
[15:57] <ioria> upgrading my external disk to wolfy ....
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> good evening wileee
[16:01] <wileee> morning
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> wileee: wily is out and xenial is born :p
[16:02] <daftykins> be nice once February is here and 15.04 is dead, then it's back to just 3 releases
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> precise dies also soon right
[16:05] <ioria> flash player is really having some big problems.... i keep it just to see how many  damages can do ....
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> ioria: how do you test
[16:06] <ioria> watching my firefox page graying out
[16:06] <ioria> irresponsive ... some minutes ....
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ioria: system76 ditched flash player on their machines
[16:07] <ioria> sometimes irrecoverable
[16:07] <ioria> yeah
[16:09] <ioria> especially when the page has that flash-advertising window
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> ioria: i wonder if system76 still uses firefox then?
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> ive also read some distro uses a tuned firefox with the peperflash from chromium
[16:12] <ioria> well, there are wrappers for firefox and derivatives
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> addons?
[16:13] <ioria> no,    ppa  but they don't work very well, like Fresh Player
[16:13] <ioria> they use pepper
[16:14] <ioria> libpepflashplugin.... works only on youtube and few sites
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> !info freshplayerplugin
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> ppa indeed
[16:15] <ioria> basically they take pepper from chrome and adapt it for firefox ...
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> would be nice to have something like that in repos
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> and take flashplugin out of restricted-extras
[16:16] <ioria> yep... still testing
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> maybe in xenial..who knows
[16:17] <ioria> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/fresh-player-plugin-sees-new-release.html
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> ioria: ive also read canonical is thinking of default browser on future versions
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> ioria: you know wich plugin webbrowser-app uses?
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> flash or pepper
[16:19] <ioria> really ? interesting .... no, sorry
[16:20] <ioria> there is also adobe-flashplugin from Canonical Partner... you have to enable the repo
[16:20] <daftykins> i think Google made a mistake pushing pepperflash, it's just allowing it to stay around longer
[16:20] <daftykins> websites should start being shamed for having non-HTML5 players
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> yeah very vulnarable
[16:20] <ioria> html5 is very interesting ....
[16:23] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xexf5e5n0879ok8/IMG_20151022_171525.jpg?dl=0
[16:24] <daftykins> i just decided to virtualise Apples latest and greatest ;)
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: looks like docky :p
[16:25] <daftykins> *shrug*
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> w10 on the left?
[16:26] <ioria> nice
[16:27] <daftykins> yep
[16:27] <daftykins> don't worry the KiTTY session is to an ubuntu server ;)
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> microsoft appologized for pushing w10 unchosen updates :p
[16:29] <ioria> wow ... the 4. kernel ...
[16:30] <ioria> cpu pentium t4500, usb drive - complete upgrade , 28  minutes
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> ioria: nice1
[16:30] <ioria> let's see ... now
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> ioria: 4.2 OR 4.3 NOW?
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> oops
[16:31] <ioria> give me a sec ....
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> sure
[16:32] <ioria> 4.2.0-16-generic
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx ioria
[16:33] <ioria> np
[16:57] <ioria> ubottu is already working for wily...
[17:01] <daftykins> mmhmm
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> !info rar
[17:03] <ioria> !info rar wily
[17:04] <daftykins> hmm so it's not become the default yet
[17:04] <daftykins> well, different bot
[17:04] <ioria> lotuspsychje, test ubottu in pm
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yep shows docky for wily now
[17:05] <ioria> weird
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> ioria: maybe ubottu needs a restart or something first
[17:08] <ioria> yep
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> ioria: webbrower-app gets detected as chromium 35 and adobe flash doesnt get detected
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> playing youtubes flawless
[17:14] <ioria> !info chromium-browser wily
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> !info webbrower-app
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> !info webbrowser-app
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> i used a browser/flash detect website
[17:16] <ioria> !info  webbrowser-app wily
[17:16] <ioria> for adobe you have to enable the repo
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> yeah i dont want adobe
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> just wanted to test whats default in webbrowser-app
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> trying to find peperflash detectors online now
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> hi there Bashing-om
[17:31] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o/ Hey ! .. Release day .. how much of a pounding are we taking ?
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: 15.10 issues are very calm, the community very active discussing in channels
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: and !xenial is born :p
[17:33] <ioria> oh... really ?
[17:34] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje:  Good deal .. good news, I was and am expeccting a pounding for FGLRX  in 15.10 // NOT ! .
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> ioria: born as in codename :p
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !xenial
[17:34] <TJ-> Not just as XX; toolchain upload tonight
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but we have to wait to join #ubuntu+1 some more time right?
[17:35] <TJ-> Well, it's development so -devel of course :)
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> kk
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: #ubuntu-release is spamming xenial stuff all over :p
[17:36] <TJ-> +1 is for when the alpha/beta ISO releases go out really
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> ah right
[17:36] <TJ-> I wonder why? Not like that channel would get lots of drive-by drop-ins; must annoy the regulars
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> 161 users and active atm
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> its gonna be a happy newyear
[17:50] <HackerII> heh, lets hope it dont collapse beforehand
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu or the world :p
[17:51] <HackerII> woohoo
[17:52]  * HackerII is waiting for 16.04
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> december 31 and lets do some heavy bug hunting :p
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> then my next goal in life will be converting all machines in the worl to xenial
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> and beat gill bates
[17:53] <HackerII> we have enough bugs in the whitehouse, we need a professional terminex
[17:53] <HackerII> ya
[17:53] <HackerII> beat bill
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:53] <HackerII> he and hillary should get a room together
[17:54] <ioria> http://shirtoid.com/52849/bug-hunters/
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[17:56] <TJ-> Looks like kubuntu is going to peter out now, which is a shame
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> howso?
[17:57] <TJ-> Jonathan Riddell has stepped down as release manager. You recall the bust-up with Canonical earlier in the year, well he's had enough
[17:58] <TJ-> He's 1 of only 2 majorly competent packaging devs for KDE/Kubuntu. The others are well-meaning amateurs but haven't yet built up the skill set to fill his place.
[18:02] <HackerII> i can do it
[18:02] <HackerII> in my sleep
[18:02] <HackerII> el oh el
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:03] <HackerII> i have special tech meds
[18:03] <HackerII> circuital, resisterol, and cputol
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> rohipnol i know...
[18:04] <daftykins> and so the masses are flooding in
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yep, lucky us to solve :p
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> hi philipballew
[18:20] <daftykins> o/
[18:21] <philipballew> lotuspsychje, hello. What are you up to?
[18:21] <daftykins> we're battling the hordes of 15.10 upgraders.
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> philipballew: wily is out and !xenial is born
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> plenty to do :p
[18:22] <philipballew> lotuspsychje, I ungraded last week for all my machines.
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> nice
[18:22] <philipballew> Tonight I am gonna hit askubuntu and try to answer as many questions as I can.
[18:22] <philipballew> if I finish that, then the forms
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> philipballew: didnt knew you also do support
[18:23] <philipballew> lotuspsychje, I do everything I can for Ubuntu
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> nice1
[18:23] <philipballew> im not as skilled as some, but I do all that I can
[18:23] <philipballew> lotuspsychje, where in the world are you now?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> philipballew: Bashing-om will be your mate then, he also support the ubuntuforums
[18:23] <daftykins> i tried a few askubuntu ones once, but it's annoying not having realtime info
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> philipballew: .be @ 20h23
[18:23] <daftykins> plus you wonder if they go off and try things before they get to your reply ;)
[18:24] <philipballew> daftykins, its a mind of its own for sure
[18:24] <philipballew> its a good way if you already know the answer
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> i like askbuntu answers as they get voted
[18:24] <daftykins> yay fixed my first 15.10 issue
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: wich would that be?
[18:25] <daftykins> guy with a Dell, synaptics touchpad didn't work despite this Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896069/
[18:25] <philipballew> I once met a guy at starbcks who bought me coffee so I could install missing drivers on his laptop
[18:25] <daftykins> so i found and suggested: http://askubuntu.com/questions/623598/dell-inspiron-7347-inactive-cursor-with-my-touchpad-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:25] <daftykins> philipballew: haha :D *buntu?
[18:25] <philipballew> daftykins, totally was!
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> ah yess, we seen this on 15.04 too quiet splash i8042.nopnp
[18:26] <daftykins> maybe i'll write a blog post about it so folks find results online
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> you have a blogger daftykins ?
[18:28] <philipballew> I could write a blog post about daftykins writing a blog post.
[18:28] <daftykins> well, i haven't written anything since like 2 years ago and i just run it from home so it's not very reliable (dynamic IP)
[18:28] <daftykins> lol
[18:28] <daftykins> yay lets all blog circularly
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> would be nice to log all solved issues + what solved it
[18:29] <daftykins> trouble is it all becomes obsolete so fast
[18:30] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: ^ now we talking - build a data base !
[18:30] <daftykins> weeding out the no longer relevant posts would be more work than keeping the already outdated wiki and help pages on ubuntu.com current
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> true
[18:32] <daftykins> that guide i linked uses "sudo -H gedit /file" is that really a safe way instead of gksu/gksudo ?
[18:32] <daftykins> i checked the manpage and see -H is homepath changing
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: wb eric!
[18:40] <EriC^^> thanks lotuspsychje
[18:41] <EriC^^> did you try 15.10 yet?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: im sticking to lts mate :p so no
[18:42] <EriC^^> me too, just for a vm
[18:42] <daftykins> http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301
[18:42] <daftykins> simples
[18:42] <EriC^^> ( basically just for the wallpapers and see how it feels like :D )
[18:42] <EriC^^> i'm downloading now
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> nice1 daftykins
[18:43] <daftykins> hmm both my xbox and last.fm widgets are broken
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ill grab xenial alpha at december 31
[18:43] <EriC^^> nice writeup daftykins
[18:43] <daftykins> hehe thanks, i mostly just copied the result on askubuntu.com and labelled it as 15.10 though - so any new users googling can find it :)
[18:44] <EriC^^> why dec 31?
[18:44] <EriC^^> oh ok
[18:44] <EriC^^> the alpha
[18:45] <EriC^^> i hope the wallpapers are nice
[18:45] <EriC^^> lol
[18:45] <EriC^^> it's almost done
[18:46] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: how's the shop coming together mate?
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: were trying to find a proper house to buy first
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: it needs a room for home shop where i will place the showroom :p
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: daftykins and OerHeks suggested me M.2 machines for the future :p
[18:50] <EriC^^> cool, what's M.2 machines?
[18:50] <OerHeks> sure, apple got a version that has the highest speeds
[18:50] <OerHeks> m2 flashmemory
[18:51] <OerHeks> the folow up on ssd sata
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: <daftykins> http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/02/understanding-m-2-the-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/
[18:51] <daftykins> "new" form factor SSDs that are PCIe 4x native with NVMe instead of AHCI :)
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> so i will be hunting m.2 barebones
[18:51] <OerHeks> next step will be no difference between ram and storage
[18:53] <EriC^^> seems very cool
[18:53] <EriC^^> when my current hdd explodes i'll get a ssd i guess
[18:53] <EriC^^> never used one before
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> the image i have in mind is ubuntu phone = ubuntu tablet = ubuntu netbook = ubuntu multimedia laptop = ubuntu home desktop = ubuntu gaming desktop
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> all ssd powered and lts + ubuntu touch
[18:54] <OerHeks> https://azerty.nl/8-5743-794909/addonics-m2-pcie-ssd-adapter.html + https://azerty.nl/8-5931-717161/kingston-ssdnow-solid-state-.html
[18:55] <daftykins> no point using adapters really, if your BIOS/EFI can't boot PCIe devices with NVMe, you're knackered
[18:56] <daftykins> ok for solely-storage of course
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> its so hard to find barebones, not sure where to get them
[18:56] <OerHeks> but this one is not 600 mbit, but 2150 mbit https://azerty.nl/0-5931-820994/samsung-sm951-series-ssd-solid-state-drive-256-gb-intern-m-2-2280-pci-express-x4-ahci-bulk.html
[18:56] <daftykins> laptops or say, mini ITX things?
[18:56] <OerHeks> creul
[18:57] <daftykins> yeah SM951 is the older one
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: i will be needing them all
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: maybe ill do those mini for home desktops
[18:58] <daftykins> i think the Intel NUCs come with M.2 as standard
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah, but we had some ubuntu issues on those nucs also on users
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> remember a few
[18:59] <daftykins> mmm
[19:02] <OerHeks> seeding ratio 1.5 in 4 hrs now
[19:02] <daftykins> :)
[19:03] <OerHeks> x 6 isos
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> :p
[19:03] <daftykins> how big is the 64-bit wily desktop image up to now?
[19:04] <OerHeks> 1,18 gb
[19:04] <EriC^^> it's 1.1gb
[19:04] <EriC^^> well 1.0gib it says here
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-15-10-launches-with-the-most-advanced-plasma-desktop-495090.shtml
[19:05] <daftykins> ouch
[19:06] <OerHeks> 2248 x 512kb
[19:06] <daftykins> soon a 2GB flashd rive won't cut it ;)
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-15-10
[19:07] <OerHeks> ubuntustudio 2.3GiB
[19:08] <OerHeks> but that one i would expect 3.9 gb
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> wow big
[19:09] <daftykins> oh dear, is omgubuntu suggesting people trash their lovely installations with PPAs from the word go again?
[19:09]  * daftykins glances
[19:09] <OerHeks> oh, fonts and themes i presume?
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> any speed improvements to dash on 15.10?
[19:11] <OerHeks> I don't know, still on 15.04
[19:12]  * daftykins pats his server VM
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-15-10-download-review-new-features
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> steam controller added, nice
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !info telegram
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> !info telegram wily
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> must be the telegram desktop they show https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/10/22/whats-new-in-ubuntu-15-10-desktop-and-devices/
[19:18] <OerHeks> maybe it is under social accounts pre programmed
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> ah could be OerHeks
[19:24] <EriC^^> the new prompt is colored
[19:24] <EriC^^> wallpapers suck
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> :p
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: can you check the social accounts for telegram please?
[19:26] <EriC^^> doesn't seem to have telegram
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[19:26] <EriC^^> you mean the settings > online accounts? facebook yahoo google etc?
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> yep
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> any new ones?
[19:27] <EriC^^> no they're actually less
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> ok
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> i wonder why they didnt add telegram to official repos yet
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> such a nice package
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> you can try it from here for desktop: https://desktop.telegram.org/
[19:31] <OerHeks> hmm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp = ntp (1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu8) and http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SecurityNotice#Recent_Vulnerabilities  says it is fixed in ntp-4.2.8p4
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> seems like they add a telegram ppa here: http://www.tecmint.com/things-to-do-after-fresh-installation-of-ubuntu-15-10-desktop/2/
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> nite nite all
[20:30] <Ben64> those "x things to do after installing ubuntu" are dumb
[20:31] <Ben64> because everyone is the same and wants the same things, right?
[20:53] <OerHeks> 1000 steps to keep you buzy with ubuntu 15.10 until next release
[20:55] <OerHeks> ( incl. eat & drink, sleep, walk instructions )
[21:16] <daftykins> Ben64: agreed, plus it treats a new OS like a toy
[21:49] <OerHeks> wow my compliments for the makers of this demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoeCcCQuJrM
[21:55] <daftykins> quite professional indeed
[21:59] <wileee> like hypnotic man
[22:00] <OerHeks> those loops can easily be made with ubuntu studio
[22:00] <OerHeks> (music)
[22:04] <OerHeks> ratio 2.2-2.9 x 6 isos in 6 hrs
[22:04] <OerHeks> faster!