| eliasps | darkxst I changed the ~wilyX number manually on the debdiffs, with an editor. Is that ok? Also, with a new upstream release, that number is reset back to 1 or 0? | 00:01 |
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| eliasps | Because there are multiple packages with both zeros and ones. one has a 0.1 too. | 00:01 |
| darkxst | eliasps, doesnt really matter if start at 1 or 0, but if you use `dch -l~wily` , it will automatically use 1 | 00:03 |
| eliasps | Ok then, I'll use that! Thanks. Why some packages have to be syncs from debian? | 00:04 |
| darkxst | because they don't have any ubuntu specific changes, then we just sync from debian | 00:05 |
| eliasps | Ok. Thanks! | 00:05 |
| eliasps | The remaining debdiffs are on the same location (http://people.ubuntu.com/~eliasps/files/debdiffs/). I'll do the syncs too. | 00:09 |
| eliasps | I'll be keeping track of the versions for upgrades upstream from gnome's mailing list, to make them when they are out. | 00:10 |
| eliasps | But gnome-online-accounts always fail to build for some reason, I see no clear error on the sbuild test. just status attempted. | 00:11 |
| darkxst | eliasps, log? | 00:11 |
| eliasps | testing now. I'll send it once it's done. | 00:16 |
| eliasps | Pastebin? | 00:16 |
| darkxst | yeh | 00:19 |
| darkxst | eliasps, git-gsm-utils-fix-leak.patch in gnome-session has a bad rebase, and besides it should just be dropped | 00:20 |
| eliasps | I'll make it again. | 00:25 |
| eliasps | darkxst something with the symbols? http://pastebin.com/6kWLinv8 | 00:35 |
| eliasps | E: Build failure (dpkg-buildpackage died) | 00:36 |
| darkxst | eliasps, yes, use the embedded diff in the log to update debian/libgoa-backend-1.0-1.symbols | 00:36 |
| darkxst | also change the version to just upstream version 3.18.1 (i.e on line 9 in your paste) | 00:38 |
| eliasps | Do I note that on the changelog? | 00:40 |
| darkxst | eliasps, yes of course, all changes you make should be noted | 00:40 |
| eliasps | Ok. I'll build it again and let you know. Thank you for your help. | 00:45 |
| eliasps | I have to go for now, I'll fix gnome-session and goa and send them to you once I'm back along with the debian syncs. | 00:46 |
| bcx | Hi, manual instal on wily: gdm loops asking for the password, anyway I can get a session with 'sudo service gdm stop ; startx', /var/log/gdm/ is empty | 04:26 |
| bcx | I need to understand gdm issue but have no clue | 04:26 |
| darkxst | bcx what do you mean by manual install? | 04:31 |
| darkxst | you could be missing some dependencies? | 04:31 |
| bcx | darkxst: yes I use --no-install-recommends | 04:31 |
| darkxst | anyway to debug gdm set Debug=True in /etc/gdm/custom.conf | 04:31 |
| darkxst | some logs will goto to the journal, but some should be in /var/log/gdm also | 04:32 |
| bcx | darkxst: nothing created in /var/log/gdm | 04:34 |
| darkxst | check journal then | 04:34 |
| bcx | darkxst: using journalctl I can see a Clutter input issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/12892135/ | 04:36 |
| darkxst | I'd be more worried about this one | 04:38 |
| darkxst | Oct 22 06:33:01 darkpad gdm-password][1889]: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_gnome_keyring.so): /lib/security/pam_gnome_keyring.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 04:38 |
| darkxst | and the other pam errors that are popping up in your logs | 04:38 |
| darkxst | the clutter message is not likely causing the problem | 04:39 |
| bcx | darkxst: commenting (prefix with -) pam_gnome_keyring in /etc/pam.d/gdm does not solve | 04:41 |
| darkxst | well you need that plugin anyway | 04:42 |
| bcx | darkxst: do you know the required package ? | 04:43 |
| darkxst | gnome_keyring? | 04:43 |
| bcx | ah ... | 04:44 |
| darkxst | bcx or you can always use something like `apt-file find pam_gnome_keyring.so` | 04:44 |
| darkxst | to find what package a file comes from | 04:44 |
| bcx | installing libpam-gnome-keyring does not solve http://paste.ubuntu.com/12892179/ | 04:52 |
| darkxst | does it start to login? then go back to gdm? | 04:54 |
| darkxst | Oct 22 06:50:35 darkpad /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-x-session[772]: (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. | 04:54 |
| darkxst | Oct 22 06:50:35 darkpad gdm-password][760]: pam_unix(gdm-password:session): session closed for user user | 04:54 |
| darkxst | Oct 22 06:50:35 darkpad gdm[431]: GdmDisplay: display lasted 2.449007 seconds | 04:54 |
| bcx | darkxst: exact | 04:54 |
| bcx | Oct 22 06:50:27 darkpad gnome-session[583]: gnome-session[583]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry.... | 04:55 |
| bcx | darkxst: I hate this message | 04:56 |
| darkxst | that will be the problem | 04:56 |
| bcx | I surely need some more deps | 04:57 |
| bcx | darkxst: possible to debug gnome-session ? | 04:57 |
| darkxst | gnome-session should become more verbose when you enable gdm debug mode I think | 04:58 |
| bcx | darkxst: also Oct 22 06:50:28 darkpad gnome-session[633]: (gnome-settings-daemon:664): Gvc-WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused | 05:00 |
| darkxst | I don't expect that would be fatal | 05:02 |
| darkxst | the fail whale message | 05:03 |
| darkxst | happens when one of the required components fails to start | 05:03 |
| darkxst | which will likely be shell or g-s-d | 05:04 |
| bcx | what kind on compo ? gdm/gnome-session/gnome-shell ? | 05:04 |
| darkxst | ^^ | 05:04 |
| bcx | strangely GS starts and is not cleaned http://paste.ubuntu.com/12892209/ | 05:05 |
| darkxst | that looks like the gdm greeter | 05:06 |
| darkxst | it stays running on vt7, your user session ends up on vt2 (assuming this is 15.10) | 05:06 |
| bcx | it is | 05:07 |
| darkxst | 693 tty7 Sl+ 0:06 \_ gnome-shell --mode=gdm | 05:07 |
| bcx | during last sprint I worked this around by using lightdm | 05:08 |
| darkxst | try a manual install in a clean VM, using `apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^` | 05:09 |
| darkxst | if that works, then you definately have a missing dep somewhere | 05:09 |
| darkxst | ibus is a recommends in our seeds, though maybe a hard dep these day in GNOME land | 05:12 |
| bcx | sure, one of the 300MB recommends | 05:12 |
| darkxst | bcx most of that will be libreoffice | 05:13 |
| darkxst | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-gnome.wily/view/head:/desktop | 05:13 |
| darkxst | see the * ( package ) lines, they are the recommends | 05:14 |
| darkxst | although that only covers the seed, not the underlying packages | 05:14 |
| bcx | darkxst: it took me long to get this right for trusty/vivid http://paste.ubuntu.com/12892232/ | 05:15 |
| bcx | I am unhappy with the way people define recommends on debian/ubuntu | 05:16 |
| darkxst | which part? | 05:17 |
| darkxst | Someone was wanting to make an ubuntu-gnome-core seed, but it never happened | 05:18 |
| bcx | darkxst: one these recommends should be in deps http://paste.ubuntu.com/12892236/ | 05:19 |
| bcx | darkxst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12892232/ works great for trusty/vivid | 05:20 |
| darkxst | bcx, I don't know, there are maybe 2-3 people in the world that insist on using GNOME with --no-recommends | 05:23 |
| darkxst | more than happy to take fixes affecting deps, but not about to spend time debugging them | 05:24 |
| bcx | darkxst: maybe we are not a lot but we are consistent with what recommends means | 05:24 |
| darkxst | well sometimes upstream changes don't get reflected | 05:24 |
| darkxst | its not always obvious when upstream move from a soft (optional) dep to a hard dep | 05:25 |
| bcx | darkxst: keep/try my results for trusty/vivid if it can help the other 2 :) | 05:25 |
| bcx | darkxst: I understand as building a distro without automated tests :S | 05:26 |
| bcx | darkxst: so many combinations to manually check... | 05:27 |
| bcx | darkxst: btw I don't know if you remember our discussion 2 days ago about my chicken&egg issue with user-themes | 05:29 |
| bcx | darkxst: I can workaround it with 'gsettings set ... name Mytheme' either in session-migration or a simple autostart | 05:31 |
| darkxst | bcx, that is what the gsettings overrides are for! | 05:32 |
| darkxst | if you want to override settings system wide, use those | 05:33 |
| bcx | darkxst: already overriden org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme | 05:33 |
| darkxst | and I am still sure you don't need user-theme plugin for themes loaded from /usr/share | 05:34 |
| bcx | darkxst: some execution is required somewhere, I can confirm diff oldgsettings newgsettings returns nothing | 05:34 |
| darkxst | the whole point of user-theme is load plugins from ~/.local/share | 05:35 |
| bcx | darkxst: yes ! i would love to do that | 05:35 |
| darkxst | glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/scheams | 05:35 |
| darkxst | after you edit the override file | 05:35 |
| bcx | darkxst: checking a sources it does at both $HOME & .local | 05:35 |
| bcx | darkxst: of course | 05:35 |
| bcx | 200+300MB landed, I confirm it is a "recommended" issue :) | 05:36 |
| darkxst | take a look at the germinate output for ubuntugnome | 05:37 |
| darkxst | and look for recommends below the core components | 05:37 |
| bcx | darkxst: yes "Recommended packages:" @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12892236/ | 05:37 |
| bcx | darkxst: you were taking about ibus-gtk3 ibus-table | 05:39 |
| darkxst | maybe and ibus of course | 05:40 |
| darkxst | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-gnome.wily/rdepends/ | 05:40 |
| darkxst | and maybe things like libclutter-1.0-common libcogl-common modemmanager network-manager-gnome | 05:42 |
| bcx | darkxst: my issue is more with gdm/gnome-session as I can startx | 05:47 |
| darkxst | bcx, gtg now | 05:48 |
| bcx | darkxst: thanks for your time | 05:49 |
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| Dracco | Hello lads, quick quesion: any idea what time today is Gnome Wily released? | 08:51 |
| darkxst | Dracco, after I go to sleep | 09:07 |
| darkxst | probably around EOD in west coast US | 09:09 |
| Dracco | awesome, thanks! | 09:14 |
| darkxst | eliasps, think I uploaded most things for you | 09:15 |
| mgedmin | hm, should I ppa-purge before upgrading to 15.10? | 14:51 |
| * mgedmin assumes it's the safe course and does so | 14:57 | |
| mgedmin | oh my, is ppa-purge amazingly slow? yes it is | 15:02 |
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| bp0 | using ubuntu gnome as guest in virtualbox, with virtualbox-guest-utils installed, the mouse pointer is invisible during login | 15:44 |
| eliasps | darkxst thank you. I'll let you know about the rest. | 15:47 |
| mgedmin | what sort of input device does virtualbox present? | 15:49 |
| eliasps | Now that wily has been released, all the packages in staging (for wily) will be copied to xerial at the early development? What's the schedule? | 15:49 |
| mgedmin | if it looks like a touchscreen, gnome might be hiding the mouse cursor because it thinks you're running it on a tablet | 15:49 |
| bp0 | mgedmin, you are right that vbox's default pointing device setting is USB Tablet | 15:54 |
| bp0 | but I changed it to PS/2 Mouse and the same result | 15:54 |
| bp0 | also, after login, the pointer is visible either way | 15:54 |
| mgedmin | I guess then my guess was incorrect | 15:55 |
| bp0 | but good idea, tho | 16:01 |
| bp0 | with usb tablet selected there is a usb input device, with ps2 mouse selected there is a serial input device | 16:02 |
| bp0 | but either way there is another input device on pci | 16:02 |
| bp0 | the vbox guest pci device that provides pointer integration | 16:02 |
| bp0 | dmesg | grep input ... shows both devices | 16:03 |
| bp0 | maybe after login uses sees them in a different order than before login | 16:04 |
| bp0 | but now i'm guessing | 16:04 |
| Olotila | can I get a menu or something for open apps? | 16:07 |
| Olotila | like "places", but it would be "running apps" | 16:07 |
| Olotila | or rather something that is always visible | 16:07 |
| mgedmin | there's probably a window list extension somewhere | 16:08 |
| bp0 | Olotila, mgedmin: there is an extension... look in gnome-tweak-tool / extensions | 16:09 |
| bp0 | its called "Window list" | 16:11 |
| Olotila | this seems nice | 16:12 |
| Olotila | https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/105/panel-docklet/ | 16:12 |
| * mgedmin thinks about the inevitable disappointment that will come later when Olotila discovers the downsides of extensions (they become outdated and stop working, or are buggy and crash/freeze gnome-shell) | 16:14 | |
| * mgedmin becomes sad | 16:14 | |
| Olotila | i am pretty new to gnome, so that future does not scare me :) | 16:22 |
| Olotila | i am kinda searching my workflow with gnome, so far I like a lot | 16:22 |
| Olotila | i got bunch of crap all over, but it's not bothering me atm | 16:23 |
| Olotila | all kinda widgets and stuff | 16:23 |
| Olotila | just gonna reinstall or clean up when widgets loose their glamour | 16:23 |
| octoquad | Olotila, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/ <- well maintained | 17:18 |
| octoquad | hi mgedmin | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | hi | 17:19 |
| octoquad | So, happy release day! :) | 17:19 |
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| eliasps | darkxst goa and gnome-session debdiffs for staging: http://pastebin.com/NNQ8pKJS http://pastebin.com/tDaPRXck . On gnome-session, would you check the configure.ac log (from git) because those build-dep bumps I made maybe they should have been done in a previous release. | 17:35 |
| octoquad | darkxst, could you check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+patches the bottom <update> / New upstream patches look old. Can you confirm. | 17:39 |
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| mgedmin | I see nautilus 3.16 didn't make it into wily | 19:50 |
| mgedmin | hello #1418771 old friend | 19:54 |
| mgedmin | hm, the gnome3 ppa is empty-ish (but thanks for a not-ancient gedit!) | 20:03 |
| mgedmin | ah, gnome3-staging has nautilus 3.18 and lots of other goodies | 20:06 |
| mgedmin | yummy | 20:06 |
| mgedmin | ah my computer feels so fast after a reboot | 20:43 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, nautilus 3.16 broke just about every ubuntu patch | 21:49 |
| bcx | darkxst: i got nautilus 3.16 running well with gnome3-staging on vivid | 21:57 |
| bcx | mgedmin: yes wily starts really faster | 21:57 |
| darkxst | bcx, we dropped the ubuntu patches there | 21:57 |
| darkxst | there not really relevant to ubuntu gnome, but needed for actual archive uploads | 21:58 |
| darkxst | eliasps, thx, uploading now | 22:12 |
| eliasps | darkxst remind me if you will, what do I need to send you to upload the syncs? | 23:27 |
| eliasps | I just downloaded the debian files, edited the changelog and debuild. | 23:28 |
| eliasps | Should I create the debdiffs against the PPA versions of the packages? | 23:38 |
| berglh | good morning people, congrats on the release | 23:42 |
| eliasps | ok scratch that. the debdiff against the debian version. | 23:55 |
| eliasps | berglh good morning. | 23:55 |
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