Laneypitti: I just released u-r-u to updates BTW08:11
pittiLaney: good morning; ah, nice!08:11
Laneydid you get your 8 hours? :P08:11
pittiLaney: so now we need to adjust the -meta branch and roll this out08:11
Laneypitti: indeed, have this committed here, will do08:11
Laneyor will get someone to do08:11
pittiLaney: indeed I did! I slept until 9, it's been a loooong time since I've been able to do that08:11
pittiLaney: ah, you did already? good; I wanted to wait until you guys are up to get some more pair of eyes on the changes08:12
* pitti does iso testing in the meantime, although davmor2 already was on fire :)08:12
pittiLaney: you didn't push yet?08:13
davmor2pitti: sleep is for the weak ;)08:13
pittidavmor2: but I hope the iso tracker's time zone is just off or so08:13
pittiI saw results from you from yesterday 14:0008:14
pittiwhich was several hours before they actually got released08:14
pittior there's a bug with showing old results08:14
davmor2pitti: that was the tests for netboot though :P08:14
pittidavmor2: no, e. g. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/347/builds/105070/testcases/1300/results08:15
pitti2015-10-21 14:3708:15
davmor2pitti: and you ran a test at 03:5508:16
pittiso I guess it's behind ~ 6 hours08:16
davmor2pitti: stgraber set it up so I assume it is canada time08:16
pittiright, makes sense08:16
pittiok, amd64 is as good as it ever gets, doing i386 and the ubuntu core ones now08:17
davmor2pitti: so it would of been 20:3708:17
pittiLaney: odd, that didn't close the bug task08:17
pittiLaney: seems you didn't actually release, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+publishinghistory08:18
pittiLaney: what did you run?08:18
Laneydid the copy work?08:18
pitti"sru-release wily ubuntu-release-upgrader"?08:18
Laneysru-release -z 100 wily ubuntu-release-upgrader08:19
Laney"Copied to wily-updates"08:19
pittihm, +publishinghistory disagrees08:19
* Laney plays the x-files theme08:19
pittidoes htis thing need spethial magic for the extra tarball?08:19
pittinothing on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates08:20
pittiwe used to have special instructions many years ago, but I thought this got fixed in LP a long time ago08:20
* pitti runs the command08:21
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: I don't know, are you asking because it is missing or because you see it there?08:21
pittiLaney: hm, worked for me; really odd08:21
Laneypitti: wait08:21
Laneyit's in the queue08:21
pittiLaney: urgh -- why does it land in the queue for you but not for me? ~ubuntu-sru membership or so?08:22
LaneyI guess08:22
* pitti deletes the queue item then08:22
LaneyI had these powers before08:22
Laneysomeone's put some kryptonite somewhere around here08:22
davmor2jibel: infinity: morning guys so the boot to first hard drive issue didn't happen on 14.04's daily live image so only on 15.10, so a bug for xenial.  Also I hit an issue with the screen reader on dvd that I am going to revisit today and see if I can reproduce, works as expected from usb pendrive, on dvd the installer has no commentary but the installed desktop does08:22
pittiLaney: ok; want me to eyeball your ~ubuntu-core-dev/meta-release/ubuntu change and push?08:23
jibeldavmor2, thanks. I'll try to confirm the screen reader thing08:25
Laneypitti: I pushed it there (it's manually pulled to changelogs.u.c) if you want to have a look08:30
Laneythe URLs aren't live yet so I couldn't check them that way08:31
* pitti promotes the remaining two MIRs08:31
pittiLaney: ah, looks straightforward08:33
pittiLaney: this will just be copied to meta-release later on, right?08:34
pittiwe should probably update meta-release-proposed too, but I guess that's part of the "do the release" dance08:34
pittiLaney: Adam can push this to ch.u.c.08:35
Laneywill wait for the publisher before poking08:35
flexiondotorgcyphermox, Because it is missing.08:41
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: I suppose it probably should be there08:41
flexiondotorgI *think* I remember it being there is the past.08:42
flexiondotorgIf I invoke oem-config-first boot with sudo, I get NetworkManager stuff.08:42
cyphermoxif you invoke oem-config-first it will remove NM configs; since you might need some for setting up the oem environment08:43
flexiondotorgTo be clear, there is no network applet in when oem-config runs after is has been prepared.08:44
flexiondotorgSo no option to join a wifi network.08:45
flexiondotorgNo indication that you are connected via a wire.08:45
Riddellare we nearly there yet?08:48
infinityRiddell: Not yet. :P08:48
davmor2jibel: so I'm definitely not getting a screen reader on dvd on hardware let me see if it is the same in kvm08:48
flexiondotorginfinity, Does this mean the images will be respun again?08:49
infinityflexiondotorg: No.08:49
flexiondotorginfinity, I understand :-)08:49
flexiondotorgMy Yes! was pleasure to seeing your No.08:50
flexiondotorgWas up until 02:30 testing.08:50
pittiinfinity: good morning08:52
davmor2jibel: so working in kvm with --soundhw ac97  and on pendrive so no idea why it isn't working from dvd08:56
davmor2jibel: I'll try enabling it in live desktop and see if functions there08:56
jibeldavmor2, can you file a bug it's something for xenial now08:56
davmor2jibel: sure08:57
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: ah, I thought you meant in oem-config-wrapper; the thing that runs after you've set up the session to copy things for the end user.08:59
flexiondotorgcyphermox, No. I mean after the system has been prepared.09:00
cyphermoxso, in the end user session?09:00
cyphermoxor in the oem user session?09:00
flexiondotorgWhen you get to choose you language and locale etc.09:00
jibeldavmor2, I'm on the remaining tests for i38609:00
cyphermoxthat's oem-config-wrapper09:00
cyphermoxI suppose it might be normal09:01
flexiondotorgcyphermox, OK, that's good then :-)09:01
davmor2flexiondotorg, cyphermox: I had no issues with OEM installs on Ubuntu desktop this time09:01
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: it's probably like that since vivid; but maybe it's an issue09:01
flexiondotorgIt's not a problem. Because it all works and there is no need for a network connection.09:01
cyphermoxI just don't know if you'd need to download things in that environment09:02
cyphermoxok then09:02
flexiondotorgAt least, I don't think there is a need.09:02
cyphermoxlet's just make sure you do get an indicator or nm-applet once in the user's session09:02
flexiondotorgI do.09:02
cyphermoxlangpacks maybe, if you pick something not already available?09:02
flexiondotorgYes, that is the only thing I can think of that might require network connectivity.09:03
* cyphermox spins up yet another vm09:03
* Laney is trying the server-i386 test which is left09:03
jderoseflexiondotorg: you're right, i didn't even notice that the user config after "prepare for shipping to end user" is no longer prompting you for a wifi password when your not on ethernet, doesn't seem to have networking setup09:06
jderoseflexiondotorg: i'm almost positive it was in vivid09:06
flexiondotorgjderose, Thanks for the confirmation.09:06
jderosecyphermox: lack of network config here does mean it can't guess your timezone09:07
flexiondotorgjderose, It was late and I wasn't sure what the previous behaviour was.09:07
flexiondotorgjderose, Ah, yes. No timezone detection.09:07
jderosewonder how recently this changed... i'm pretty sure networking was still enabled here not too long ago in wily09:09
Laneycould test a beta image09:09
jderosecrap, can't believe i missed this. nice catch, flexiondotorg!09:11
* flexiondotorg fears I have thrown a spanner in work :-/09:11
flexiondotorgjderose, So System76 offer non-LTS options then?09:12
jderoseflexiondotorg: yeah. and for skylake, we absolutely had to move to wily09:12
flexiondotorgAh, of course.09:13
infinityRiddell: I'm assuming your images are ready, though you didn't mark them as such?09:14
jderosehistorically System76 only offered the latest release, offering the LTS (when we can) is a recent development. but it's proven popular with corporate and scientific customers09:14
flexiondotorgjderose, Yeah, makes sense.09:14
Riddellinfinity: right, just me wanting to keep getting people from testing them but they're good as far as I'm concerned09:14
infinityRiddell: Ta.09:14
Riddell..keep getting people to test them09:15
pittiLaney: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development LGTM, thanks! /me does another upgrade test with the "real" do-r-u now09:18
jderoseflexiondotorg: funny thing is, ubi-timezone generally can't guess my timezone from my home IP, so when i've been testing the first run user config this week while ethernet was plugged it, i thought it was the usual behavior, didn't realize networking wasn't enabled :P09:19
davmor2jibel, popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/orca/+bug/150884409:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 1508844 in orca "Screen reader is not triggered during live cd and installer when on DVD on hardware" [Undecided,New]09:19
pittiLaney: *meep*09:20
pitti$ sudo do-release-upgrade -d09:20
pittiErr Upgrade tool signature09:20
pitti  404  Not Found            WARNING:root:file 'wily.tar.gz.gpg' missing09:20
Laneyfull URL?09:21
pittiwhich is odd as it's *right there* on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/09:21
Laneysure looks there to me09:21
Laneysure is working in schroot for me too09:21
Laneyhttp://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ ?09:21
Laneydoes it use mirrors?09:21
pittihm, possibly09:22
pittimy apt sources use archive.u.c. though09:22
Laney"System upgrade is complete."09:22
infinityCould just be that not all the archive frontends are up to date yet?09:22
pittiso if at all, it's using some geolocation magic09:22
pittiargh, *phew* apt proxy FTL09:24
Laneyproxies and u-r-u... feel like we've heard this before09:25
infinityHah.  That's the second time in two days that apt-cacher broke someone.09:25
pittiI temporarily disabled it for downloading the tarball, and it seems to work now; sorry for the noise09:26
LaneyMaybe it's using the apt proxy for too many things09:26
davmor2jibel: trying on mac too to rule out hardware, but it's odd that 14.04 daily worked but 15.10 didn't, I might try another dvd too just incase that one is slower than the 14.04 one09:26
LaneyAssuming you have it configured in apt only09:26
pittiLaney: yes, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/95cloud-init-proxy09:27
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infinitypitti: Yeah, apt-cacher doesn't do well with arbitrary files (squid-deb-proxy would be fine in this case).09:30
infinitypitti: But likely a bug in u-r-u that it uses your apt proxy config to find metadata.  Or maybe it should try once with and once without.09:30
pittiI tried s-d-p, and found it much worse; not entirely sure why any more, but I think one reason was that you can't use it offline09:31
infinityzequence: What's the status of studio testing/images?09:32
davmor2jibel, popey, beginning to suspect the dvd, so will confirm with a new disc09:34
zequenceinfinity: We're in middle of testing09:36
jderoseflexiondotorg: just tested with 14.04.3... it doesn't show the NM applet when you're on ethernet, but if not on ethernet it will prompt you to join a WiFi network, does show the NM applet in this case09:42
flexiondotorgjderose, OK, thanks.09:42
infinityzequence: Kay.  I'm publishing anyway, but you have a couple of hours to tell me it's all broken and I should delete them. :P09:45
davmor2jibel, popey: meh same behaviour on another dvd, checking the integrity now, seems to be fine so far :(09:47
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: jderose: did you file a bug about the missing network indicator in the oem-config-wrapper?09:50
zequenceinfinity: Why so early this time?09:50
infinityzequence: Not really that early.  Aiming for an early afternoon (London time) release, as usual.09:50
infinityzequence: But we always push earlier to let the world settle a bit,09:50
infinityzequence: I don't always tell people, mind you. :P09:50
zequenceAlright. Yeah, things seem to work for us. Only one test left, I think.09:51
jderosecyphermox: i haven't yet. flexiondotorg?09:52
flexiondotorginfinity, Release at 15:10 ;-)09:53
flexiondotorgcyphermox, No. But can do.09:53
flexiondotorgcyphermox, Just fire fighting something else...09:53
infinityflexiondotorg: No. :)09:53
flexiondotorginfinity, Spoil sport.09:54
infinityflexiondotorg: If we did that, when would I release Ubuntu 24.04?09:54
infinityTHINK, MAN, THINK.09:54
LaneyAs if the world is going to still exist by then09:55
cyphermoxinfinity: on may 24th?09:55
cyphermoxerr, april09:55
davmor2jibel, popey: oh that's interesting I tried enabling it in the ubiquity session rather than via the menu and the screen reader worked, so now I'm retrying the menu way again, if that is broken then it might just be calling the system wrong maybe09:57
davmor2but then it's odd that it works on pendrive when run the same way09:58
pittiso http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg is now as good as it's going to be09:59
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flexiondotorgjderose, Can you raise the oem-config-wrapper bug and link it here please?10:02
flexiondotorgThe rest of my helpers are sleeping and I'm a little busy.10:02
infinitypitti: I noticed, thanks.10:02
jderoseflexiondotorg: yeah, on it. then i need to get back to bed, as in theory i'm supposed to be sleeping right now :P10:04
flexiondotorgjderose, Thank you!10:05
jderoseflexiondotorg: cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/150886510:12
ubot2Launchpad bug 1508865 in ubiquity "oem-config: networking not enabled during user config" [Undecided,New]10:12
flexiondotorgjderose, Thanks for that :-)10:12
jderosenp :)10:12
Trevinhobdmurray: hey, so... Since you told me that the compiz from https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/402 is already in proposed and thus in ddebs, can we cleanup that silo?10:16
seb128Trevinho, bdmurray, can we just get that one migrated to updates? what's blocking it?10:17
Trevinhoseb128: the bug wasn't added to the changelog (blame the train), but I think the got it10:17
davmor2jibel: popey: so after several retries, I can confirm it looks like it is all cyphermox and infinity fault :)  infinity is there a way to see the kernel line for screen reader enabled to ensure the option is actually being enabled?  I guess I can enable another mode like free software only and then enable screen reader right?10:30
jibeldavmor2, press space on boot to display the boot menu then F610:33
davmor2jibel: thanks10:34
jibelwillcooke, seb128 you're happy with the desktop section of the release notes?10:34
willcookejibel, +110:36
davmor2jibel: so I see nothing change when I enable screen reader, let me see what happens on usb stick10:37
seb128jibel, works for me10:37
jibeljamespage, gaughen anything you'd like to add for server https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes ? there is nothing currently10:41
jamespagejibel, I'll add some openstack bits - jgrimm, smoser and rharper can do general server10:41
cyphermoxdavmor2: what is this about?10:44
davmor2cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/orca/+bug/150884410:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 1508844 in orca "Screen reader is not triggered during live cd and installer when on DVD on hardware" [Undecided,New]10:45
cyphermoxin non-efi you might not actually see the command-line changes in various cases, it's not a bug10:46
* cyphermox tries10:47
davmor2cyphermox: works fine on 14.04 daily live, works fine from pendrive, works fine on virtual dvd on kvm with --soundhw ac97, just doesn't work from real dvd on real hardware hardware10:47
cyphermoxdavmor2: sounds very very suspect.10:47
davmor2cyphermox: try a secondary dvd, both dvd's pass the integrity test, both have the same behaviour, but as I say 14.04 daily on dvd in the same system works with no issues10:48
davmor2s/try/I tried10:48
cyphermoxdvd> what image?10:49
jibelpitti, is bug 1508744 the same bug you fixed in wily?10:49
ubot2bug 1508744 in lxc "Upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10 Broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150874410:49
pittijibel: looking, but very likely10:49
davmor2cyphermox: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/10:50
nhainesI found a typo in the release notes.  "Blueman 2.0 is now include and used by several flavours along with BlueZ 5.35." should be "Blueman 2.0 is now included and used by several flavours along with BlueZ 5.35."10:50
pittijibel: inconclusive, let me respond there10:50
davmor2cyphermox: I find it really odd that the same image on pendrive works with no issues, and the same image on kvm has no issues10:51
cjwatsonnhaines: fixed, thanks, though it's a wiki so feel free to edit directly if you notice typos and such10:51
nhainescjwatson: this was my first impulse, but it's an immutable page.  :)10:52
davmor2cyphermox: I managed to trigger the screen reader if I let it boot straight to ubiquity session but not if I trigger it from the f5 menu, just really weird10:52
cjwatsonoh, maybe it's locked to ... something10:52
pittijibel: no, looks different, replied10:52
cjwatsonyou sure you're logged in?10:52
nhainescjwatson: yup!  But after a refresh, it's no longer locked.10:53
nhainesNo wait, it's locked again.10:53
* nhaines shrugs.10:54
nhainesLooks like it's a wiki.ubuntu.com problem, not an issue withh the page actually being locked.10:54
cjwatsonthat seems likely10:55
nhainesSomeone else fixed the thing I noticed, so I fixed something else that was more trivial. \o/10:58
cyphermoxdavmor2: I get no sound, but I think it's because the kvm sound is broken, orca is running, and all the settings set in casper-a11y-enable are set.11:00
davmor2cyphermox: yes it works for me in kvm I did say that, it's only really dvd on real hardware where it doesn't,11:01
cyphermoxdavmor2: ah, I understood it the other way around11:03
cyphermoxare you sure that hardware can do sound?11:04
cyphermoxand that the volume is up?11:04
davmor2cyphermox: yeap I hear the drums, and on pendrive on the same system it works, and if I let ubiquity session start and the drums go I can then trigger screen reader and I hear it, just not from the f5 menu11:05
davmor2cyphermox: the really weird think is though that the screenreader is on, on the installed system so it is only the ubiquity session that is not having the screenreader work11:06
jamespagerbasak, hey - if you are around, I've done what I can with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes for server, but there are a few general server things I'm not sure on  (all in comments on the page)11:06
davmor2cyphermox: or the live cd session for that matter11:06
davmor2cyphermox: the kvm command I used is as follows kvm -m 2048 -vga vmware -cpu host --soundhw ac97 -cdrom wily-desktop-amd64.iso -hda kvm-images/ubuntu20hda.qcow2 -boot d  that gives me audio then11:07
rbasakjamespage: looking11:08
jamespagerbasak, ta11:09
rbasakjamespage: so Juju has a 1.24.7 now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-core/+bug/150665211:09
ubot2Launchpad bug 1506652 in juju-core "[needs-packaging] Juju 1.24.7 is not in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Triaged]11:10
jamespagerbasak, is that actually uploaded yet?11:10
jamespageor released from proposed11:10
jamespage(in juju stream terms)11:10
jibelcyphermox, is usb-creator completely busted in wily?11:10
rbasakOh it might still be in proposed11:11
rbasakSo then 1.24.6 is the latest stable from upstream so the note is correct. Sorry.11:11
rbasakjamespage: the notes look fine to me, thanks.11:12
rbasakteward: did you have anything to add for nginx?11:12
jamespagerbasak, erm missing MAAS LXD LXC (still commented)11:12
rbasakOh, commented as in the source? I get it :)11:12
rbasakMySQL hasn't changed (at all)11:14
rbasakLXC and MAAS, I don't know. Will have to defer to stgraber and roaxsoax.11:15
cyphermoxjibel: just writing amd64 images from i386, because we run the syslinux from the image you're trying to write, so that it writes an image that is bootable.11:22
jibelcyphermox, do you know if bug 1467989 is still an issue, it is commented in the release notes.11:26
ubot2bug 1467989 in multipath-tools "Boot issues running multipath with a large number of paths" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146798911:26
davmor2Riddell: hello11:26
cyphermoxjibel: it's probably a little better but I'm not certain11:27
cyphermoxI don't typically have very many paths when testing :/11:27
jamespageinfinity, hey - do I have time for a sync of a fix for bug 1508463 from Debian? its an unseeded universe package?11:31
ubot2bug 1508463 in aodh "alembic.ini is missing from the aodh install source" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150846311:31
infinityjamespage: Yes, be fast.11:33
infinityOr, I'll do it.11:33
jamespageinfinity, I need -6 but lp has not noticed yet11:34
infinityjamespage: Oh.11:34
infinityjamespage: Then I'll fakesync -6 for you. :P11:34
jamespageinfinity, thankyou very much :-)11:34
infinityjamespage: ^11:41
jamespageinfinity, ta11:41
infinityjamespage: Will make sure that migrates before I close wily. :P11:41
utlemmingCloud images are ready to go, and marked as such on our tracker: http://cloud.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/349/builds11:58
lotuspsychjeogra_: nice111:59
flexiondotorginfinity, Release ETA?12:02
ogra_flexiondotorg, stop being pushy :P12:02
flexiondotorgNot at all.12:03
flexiondotorgJust trying to figure out if I can pick up my daughter from school :-)12:03
ogra_if we delay she will have to learn til evening ?12:04
ogra_poor girl :)12:04
Riddellomg pre-announcing as usual...12:04
ogra_yeah, sigh12:04
ogra_they never learn12:04
flexiondotorgRiddell, And Softpedia.12:05
ogra_pretty quiet in #ubuntu-release-party today12:05
rsalvetiogra_: is it out yet? :P12:12
nhainesYeah, I'm trying to keep the links off /r/Ubuntu.12:12
* ogra_ hugs rsalveti 12:12
* rsalveti hugs ogra_ back12:15
infinityflexiondotorg: Around 2pm London time, I think.  Just eating some lunch while things settle down.12:21
flexiondotorginfinity, Cheers.12:21
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teward|webis Wily releasing today, per the release date listed on the wiki?12:40
LaneySure is12:40
ogra_if nothing goes wrong it will be12:41
davmor2jibel: did the screen reader bug get listed?12:41
teward|webLaney: so, it's on the radar, but not yet "complete"/announced?12:42
rbasakteward|web: did you see my message about release notes and nginx?12:42
ogra_teward|web, exactly12:42
teward|webrbasak: which message?  a PM to 'teward'?12:43
rbasakNo, in here.12:43
rbasakteward|web: please edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes if you have any relevant notes.12:43
teward|webrbasak: negative - no ZNC12:43
rbasakThere's a section for Ubuntu Server.12:43
infinityutlemming: Yo.12:44
utlemminginfinity: here12:44
infinityutlemming: You can push your button any time, we'll be announcing in the next 15m.  Just want to verify your links work. ;)12:45
utlemminginfinity: pushing ow12:45
utlemminger, now12:45
utlemmingETA is roughly 5 minutes12:45
teward|webrbasak: To my knowledge, there's nothing Wily-related with NGINX that needs a release notes.  Xenial is the one that really needs attention.  If I put anything there, it'll be a note that Wily has 1.9.4, which may have features which have bugs in the functionality, and that it does not have HTTP/2 support.  But the big one's going to be for Xenial.  (I know it's Xenial because the release notes bug I made for X-series had that phrase repla12:46
cjwatsonteward|web: you can know it's that because http://markshuttleworth.com/archives/147912:47
rbasakteward|web: the end of that got cut off I think. But yeah - if there's no need to say anything then don't botther.12:47
teward|webcjwatson: didn't see that yet :012:47
teward|webas i said, no ZNC, no nice feeds form my laptop ;)12:47
teward|webrbasak: i hate webchat with a passion - stupid char trim.12:47
teward|webrbasak: there's nothing important for Wily with regards to nginx, no.  For Xenial, yes.12:47
teward|webcjwatson: thanks12:47
* teward|web should probably follow Mark's pages :P12:48
rbasakteward|web: OK, thanks.12:48
teward|webrbasak: quick PM though, semi-important12:48
utlemminginfinity: AWS API's are being slow, but things are moving along, the links are good though (when the process completes).12:51
infinityutlemming: Is http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/15.10/release correct?12:51
utlemminginfinity: yes, I just changed that a few minutes ago12:52
jibelpitti, I couldn't reproduce the lxc upgrade issue so far, did you?13:04
pittijibel: no, I couldn't either; I upgraded it several times for that other bugs13:04
flocculantinfinity: far off now?13:12
infinityflocculant: It's all in the hands of our IS people setting up some cloud redirection magic.  I'm hoping "soon".13:13
flocculantokey doke - thanks :)13:13
mgedmin"Due to changes in syslinux, it is not currently possible to use usb-creator from 14.04 and earlier releases to write USB images for 15.04"13:18
mgedminwas this meant to say "15.10"?13:18
apwor "15.04 and later"13:19
nhainesNo, but should probably say--what apw said.  :)13:19
pittishould the LibO section be trimmed a bit? Enumerating 10 "foo improvements" isn't very informative13:21
pittieither we describe the improvements, or summarize this with "Improvements in foo, bar, bla" or skip this compleltely?13:22
jibelseb128, ^13:22
bdmurrayseb128: there is nothing blocking it I was thinking we didn't really need to put it in -updates and make everyone download it since they don't need the ddebs and we already have them.13:22
willcookepitti, yeah, I think that makes sense.  There is a link to the main LO notes anyway, so we can just go with that13:23
willcookepitti, shall I change it?13:23
pittiwillcooke: please13:23
willcookeon it...13:24
seb128bdmurray, ok, ok, wfm13:25
seb128jibel, pitti, willcooke, wfm13:25
willcookepitti, done.  Sorry, had to remember how to disable wikinames :)13:31
pittiwillcooke: yay, thank you13:31
Riddellfacebook says it's out?13:33
LaneySo it does13:33
teward|webhas it been released, though?  I don't see any announcement email yet.13:39
apwteward|web, the email defines when it is released ... so ... :)13:39
teward|webindeed :013:39
teward|web:) *13:39
teward|webgod i hate not having my computer with my keyboard >.>13:39
teward|webthis irritates me13:39
cjwatsonRiddell: still waiting for cloudfront redirect so that the release doesn't melt the DC - just escalated13:41
nhainesThe insights.ubuntu.com article just showed up.  That probably means it's actually out.  ;)13:44
infinitynhaines: Or not. :P13:44
nhainesinfinity: must be.  I read it on the Internet!13:45
willcookele sigh13:45
LaneyIt says "will be" or similar13:45
willcookeThe G+ post headline is "We've launched!"13:45
cjwatsonyeah I think we need to get comms to jump the gun a bit less13:46
nhainesHmm, the insights article seems to imply a *much* more advanced Unity 8 session experience than I've ever managed to work.13:46
cjwatsonoh well13:46
Riddellthey probably just copy omg :)13:49
popeyjderose: heh13:51
popeyer, oops :)13:51
infinitywillcooke: We've launched!*  (11 years ago).13:53
Laneylaunched a south african into space13:54
nhainesI'm starting to doubt the wisdom of staying up to make sure the right threads got pinned in /r/Ubuntu.14:05
teward|webThere's the email.  Now Wily is released!14:10
teward|web(topic change needed?)14:10
lordievaderWhoop, whoop. Congratulations!14:13
infinityteward|web: Erk, ignore the email to ubuntu-release. :P14:13
infinityteward|web: It's not moderated to ubuntu-announce yet.14:13
teward|webmy bad then :014:14
teward|web:) *14:14
lordievaderAww :(14:14
infinityA bit of a mess here, sorry.14:14
teward|webinfinity: no problem14:14
davmor2infinity: take a deep breath, count to 10 and exhale14:14
teward|webinfinity: IMO, though, if it's being held off from the announce list, should it have actually been sent out?14:14
teward|web(there are those who watch both lists, miscommunications like this will happen if people are watching both lists)14:15
infinityteward|web: I shouldn't have sent it, apparently, but was only told that 30 seconds after I pressed send. ;)14:15
teward|webah OK :014:15
infinityteward|web: Life's like that.14:15
teward|web:)  *14:15
cjwatsonteward|web: second-guessing isn't very helpful right now, please don't14:15
* teward|web kicks his keyboard out the window14:15
teward|webcjwatson: ack14:15
nhainesinfinity: that sounds like the timimg's about right.  :)14:15
flexiondotorginfinity, I'm getting an AccessDenied from cdimage.u.c. Is that intentional?14:23
infinityflexiondotorg: Possibly.14:23
pietroalbiniflexiondotorg, it's working for me14:24
infinityflexiondotorg: That would be the CloudFront redirect, which is perhaps still a work in progress.14:24
infinitypietroalbini: Not the ISOs.14:24
flexiondotorgJust the isos are Access Denied.14:25
infinityflexiondotorg: Right, cause just the ISOs get redirected to AWS.14:25
pietroalbiniinfinity, I can download xubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso without problems14:25
infinityAnd that's the thing we've been sorting out for the last hour. :/14:25
flocculantinfinity and team - thanks :)14:25
nhainesinfinity: I'm tired, but I'm grateful it's not me.  :)14:25
flexiondotorginfinity, OK.14:26
flexiondotorginfinity, Lubuntu and Ubuntu MATE isos are Access Denied. The others appear to be working.14:30
cjwatsonflexiondotorg: try again?14:32
flexiondotorgcjwatson, Thanks!14:33
cjwatson(wasn't me, just passing it on :-) )14:33
flexiondotorgConfirm Lubuntu and Ubuntu MATE iso downloads are working.14:33
flexiondotorgcjwatson, Pass on my thanks :-)14:33
=== infinity changed the topic of #ubuntu-release to: Released: Trusty 14.04.3, Wily 15.10 | Archive: opening freeze, britney block in place | Wily Release Coordination. Please don't upload things during freezes where you shouldn't, or be prepared to apologise to the release team | We accept payment in cash, check or beer | melior malum quod cognoscis
=== infinity changed the topic of #ubuntu-release to: Released: Trusty 14.04.3, Wily 15.10 | Archive: closed, britney block in place | Wily Release Coordination. Please don't upload things during freezes where you shouldn't, or be prepared to apologise to the release team | We accept payment in cash, check or beer | melior malum quod cognoscis
Picithanks for all the hard work everyone!14:40
cjwatsonchangelogs.ubuntu.com meta-release stuff is live, so upgraders should start arriving14:40
chrisccoulsoncan I push stuff to wily-security now?14:40
infinitychrisccoulson: Yes.14:41
Laneygo nuts14:41
* Riddell sheds a tear, that'll be my last release as release manager14:41
popeynice work people!14:42
teward|webgreat job, Release Team!14:42
willcookethanks release team!14:42
nhainesCongrats, everyone!  :D14:42
cyphermoxyeah, thanks all14:43
cjwatsonand we have a couple of hours left in the day to start opening xenial!14:43
LaneyRiddell: oh no14:43
cjwatsonthat's the fun bit ...14:43
didrocksthanks release team ;)14:45
Laneythanks iso tester slash developer slash cheese eater14:46
flexiondotorginfinity, cyphermox, Laney, popey, cjwatson, seb128, didrocks, ogra_, sil2100, mhall119, pitti, bregma - Thanks for your help with Ubuntu MATE 15.10!14:46
* mhall119 isn't sure what he did to help, but you're welcome :)14:46
flexiondotorgYou're all mention in out release notes - https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-wily-final-release/14:47
flexiondotorgmhall119, The community catch up thing :-)14:47
sil2100flexiondotorg: more like thank you for all your hard work! :)14:47
* ogra_ hugs flexiondotorg 14:47
sil2100Congrats everyone14:47
flexiondotorgSo tired. many typos.14:47
mhall119ah, happy to do that, let's do it again in the 16.04 cycle14:47
didrocksflexiondotorg: thanks for your work on it! :)14:47
Laneyflexiondotorg: aim for upload access for +6 months?14:47
flexiondotorgLaney, yeah. I've burneden you all enough ;-)14:48
flexiondotorgAnd for those of you that don't know about it - https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/14:48
teward|webflexiondotorg: i assume there'll be a Wily image?14:49
flexiondotorgteward|web, Already released :-)14:49
teward|webflexiondotorg: nice.  Got a question for you but I'll go to the IRC chan for MATE14:49
flexiondotorgDid it alongside all the hard work you fella were doing this week.14:49
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slangasekcjwatson, infinity: sil2100 has reminded me that we have packages in the wily phone stable overlay ppa that want binary copying forward into xenial; any reason I shouldn't do that immediately?15:28
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cjwatsonslangasek: we literally only just initialised, give it a bit longer15:39
cjwatsonlike a minute ago15:39
slangasekok :)15:41
slangasekpitti: why is there a python-dbusmock package currently building in the stable-phone-overlay ppa?15:47
slangaseksil2100: ^^ fyi15:47
pittislangasek: ... because pete-woods asked me to?15:47
pittilike "I need this fix, please land in vivid and wily"15:47
pittibad timing?15:47
slangasekpitti: pete-woods doesn't manage those ppas, the landing team does ;)  landings are supposed to be built in the silos, then binary copied to the overlay ppa15:48
slangasek(after testing)15:48
pittislangasek: I discussed that with sil2100 a while ago (when we started doing that), and he was okay with that15:48
pittii. e. essentially backporting from the devel series15:48
pitti(which in this case is sid, but same difference)15:49
slangasekit looked odd to me, and I'm currently queuing up packages for binary-copy to xenial, so it was noteworthy15:49
flexiondotorgI was going to go to sleep, but I see Xenial is open for busy :-D15:49
flexiondotorgOK, typo rate is high. Perhaps sleep now.15:49
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slangasekand there are three packages in the wily overlay that are older than the version in wily.... oxide-qt, ubuntu-touch-meta, unity-scope-mediascanner15:50
slangasekchrisccoulson: hi, what's the difference between oxide-qt 1.9.5-0ubuntu1~overlay1 and 1.9.5-0ubuntu1?  Why was an ~overlay1 package needed?15:51
chrisccoulsonslangasek, I've no idea. The person who requested that could probably answer though15:53
slangasekchrisccoulson: sorry, who would that have been? the package changelog points to you15:53
chrisccoulsonslangasek, it wasn't me :(15:53
slangasekah, uploader field is sil210015:53
slangaseksil2100: ^^15:53
sil2100No difference in source, it's just rebuilt in the overlay-ppa15:54
slangaseksil2100: ok, why was that needed for wily?15:54
sil2100Since dbarth wanted to make sure it's rebuilt against the proper media-hub that's on the phone15:54
sil2100That was probably when we started landing wily to the overlay15:55
chrisccoulsonI know we need that for vivid, but why is that needed for wily? Shouldn't the proper media-hub have ended up in the archive?15:55
slangasek"shouldn't" - maybe, but it didn't. archive has media-hub 4.0.0, wily overlay has 4.1.015:55
slangasekso that explains, at least15:55
slangaseksil2100: fwiw in this case a version number > wily instead of < wily would have helped; I can't copy this oxide-qt package forward to xenial15:56
sil2100Yeah, not sure if we want to copy the oxide-qt from the overlay, it anyway has lower version than what's in wily15:56
slangaseksil2100: so we'll need another oxide-qt upload against the new media-hub, in xenial15:56
sil2100slangasek: there's a new oxide-qt in flight now15:56
sil2100So this should get fixed this week probably15:57
chrisccoulsonnote, 1.9.5 is obsolete now ;)15:57
slangasekthe other two packages with lower versions in the ppa are ubuntu-touch-meta (Mirv) and unity-scope-mediascanner (james-henstridge). -mediascanner seems to be straight up obsoleted by a -0ubuntu2 version in the archive15:59
slangasekbut due to pinning, the wily images are using the stale one from the overlay ppa15:59
slangasekchrisccoulson: not so obsolete that it's not the latest version in the wily release... :)16:00
chrisccoulsonslangasek, it was until a minute or so ago https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxide-qt/1.10.3-0ubuntu0.15.10.1 :)16:01
slangasekchrisccoulson: ok, will you be taking care to copy that into xenial?16:02
chrisccoulsonslangasek, I can't, but jdstrand probably could16:02
Mirvslangasek: yes, https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.wily_add_qt5-image-formats-plugins/+merge/274882 just needs retargeting to xenial16:09
Mirvand done at https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.wily_add_qt5-image-formats-plugins/+merge/27538616:09
infinitypitti: autopkgtest for xenial, please.16:16
infinitypitti: And ddebs.16:16
infinitypitti: And retracers. ;)16:16
seb128he called it a day 15 minutes ago or so, I guess that's going to be for tomorrow16:17
Laneyit says seb128 can do retracers16:17
infinityseb128: Good thing you spoke up. ;)16:18
slangasekcjwatson: overlay ppa copy> how about now? ;)  (In principle I think these packages should be treated as part of archive initialization, just from a different source, so shouldn't wait for e.g. toolchain to land)17:21
cjwatsonslangasek: just trying to fix the publisher17:24
cjwatsonwhich will be kind of useful in the cause of getting anything to build, so is higher priority17:25
cjwatsonand I would prefer to make sure it works before publishing more stuff17:26
cjwatsonbut shouldn't be too much longer - certainly hope not because it is pub o'clock17:32
tsimonq2so what now? Wily is released, do we still have tasks to do for Wily, or are we moving on to Xenial?17:36
cjwatsonwily's handed over to stable maintenance, we're working on opening xenial17:37
tsimonq2cjwatson: so is Xenail opened right after the release of WIly, or does it take a bit?17:37
cjwatsonlike I say, we're working on it17:38
tsimonq2ok :)17:38
cjwatsonit's not instant but we like it not to take too long17:38
apwt'is normally opened as soon as soon as we have a name :)17:39
tsimonq2(first time being around on this side for a release, just out of curiosity, no pressure intended)17:39
tsimonq2apw: but we have a name17:39
cjwatsonand we are opening it17:39
cjwatsonso stop asking :)17:39
cjwatsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewReleaseCycleProcess shows you how much we have to do17:39
cjwatsonwe're about half-way through, in terms of step count, may not translate to half-way in terms of elapsed time17:40
tsimonq2so what step are you guys on?17:40
tsimonq2ok :)17:41
tsimonq2any way that I can follow along, or do I just need to ask?17:41
cjwatsonwe generally witter about it here as we go17:42
tsimonq2ok :)17:43
cjwatsonslangasek: ok, feel free to do those copies assuming that you're checking manually for conflicts (and perhaps appropriateness) and that you're copying to xenial-proposed and not xenial :)17:43
slangasekcjwatson: check and check17:43
cjwatson(I assume it's possible that a package might have diverged in both directions between wily release and the overlay)17:43
slangasekif it diverged in both and the overlay ppa version is newer, then my method fails to detect this17:44
cjwatsoncould probably work it out by a quick changelog grep17:45
slangaseklet me quickly check for any !-0ubuntu1 packages17:45
cjwatson(cf. the thing that auto-promotes -security to -updates)17:45
cjwatsoncopy-report, that's the one17:45
tsimonq2typo here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule17:46
tsimonq2it says 15.04 in the title17:46
ogra_the release shedule is only a template at this time of the release (usually at least)17:46
cjwatsontsimonq2: I assume you're fixing since you have an edit lock17:46
ogra_the actual schedule gets worked out at vUDS normally17:47
ogra_but yeah, just fix it :)17:47
cjwatsonyou might as well fix the "back to" link while you're there17:47
tsimonq2ok, it just says please do not edit, so I wanted to check first17:47
tsimonq2cjwatson: WHat do you mean?17:47
cjwatsonat the top, it says back to VividVervet17:48
cjwatsonrather than back to XenialXerus17:48
tsimonq2oh hahahah17:48
tsimonq2got it17:48
cjwatsonplease do not edit> the point there is to stop people crowd-editing the schedule and introducing confusion, not so much for fixing typos and such, which is fine (and thanks)17:48
tsimonq2ok :)17:49
slangasekok yes, these all check out17:50
slangasekcopying now17:50
cjwatsonslangasek: I assume you're taking care of getting the landing team to redirect their stuff to vivid-overlay + xenial, too?17:50
slangasekcjwatson: yes17:50
tsimonq2so as some people know, I am a teenager, so for Social Studies, I get to do a current events presentation on the release of Ubuntu 15.10!17:50
tsimonq2I am happy!17:51
tsimonq2oh hahahahahaha17:52
tsimonq2should I create the XenialXerus page and just copy everything from WilyWerewolf, or should I let someone else do that?17:52
cjwatsonIt's a pretty simple page, I think feel free to copy it, maybe with the not-yet-existent milestones commented out or something.  Have a look at the history of WilyWerewolf and see how it started17:53
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tsimonq2ok :)17:53
tsimonq2I have to go, end of Study Hall, here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus17:55
tsimonq2and it only shoes children to that page17:55
tsimonq2so yeah17:56
cjwatsonah yes17:56
slangasekcjwatson, sil2100: wily overlay-ppa -> xenial-proposed copy done18:07
sil2100slangasek: \o/ thank you!18:12
cjwatsongcc-5 will need to be retried once binutils has built and published everywhere18:14
cjwatson(that one perhaps could be a dep-wait, I think it's in the category of things the LP webapp isn't quite smart enough to process so buildd doesn't emit dep-waits for those)18:14
davmor2cyphermox: did you have any joy with that screen reader issue?18:28
robruoooOOOOoooooh, xenial19:16
slangasekI keep wanting to pronounce that 'genial' as in Spanish, but that is etymologically incorrect :(19:27
cyphermoxdavmor2: sorry, I did not dig in more into it; there are other bugs higher in priority this week :)21:14

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