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bpeakIs there any way of getting more up-to-date software in Ubuntu LTS? For a specific package. Maybe something like a snappy application?00:06
daftykinsfinding PPAs would be one way00:07
daftykinsthen compiling would be the last resort00:07
bpeakI found a more up-to-date deb, but it requires a newer version of libgnutls... So, hmmm. Updating libgnutls is prone to causing errors? Since probably a lot of software depends on it00:10
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daftykinsbpeak: manual .deb's are a bad idea, since they won't get updated00:11
vfwbpeak: You have discovered the main problem00:11
vfwbpeak: Many packages require libraries (or versions of libraries) that you don't have on your current system.00:12
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bpeakSnappy is supposed to alliaviate such situations, right? With dependencies being 'self-contained' (if I'm understanding snappy correctly)00:15
daftykinsi don't think snappy is currently in use00:16
neurotit would be nice to see some snappy apps00:18
Starnknow any good budgeting software for ubuntu?00:21
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bazhanghttp://www.junauza.com/2013/01/best-finance-software-for-ubuntu.html Starn00:28
vfw!info gnucash | Starn00:28
ubottuStarn: gnucash (source: gnucash): personal and small-business financial-accounting software. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:2.6.4-3ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 1729 kB, installed size 7422 kB00:28
thecyclonehi I have NVIDIA and Intel GPU in my laptop00:31
daftykinsuh-huh, we call that an nvidia optimus setup00:32
thecycloneby default it shows The GPU to be Intel00:32
thecyclonehow to swicth?00:32
daftykinssometimes, but rarely, they can be switched in the BIOS00:32
daftykinsotherwise, you just need to install an nvidia proprietary driver along with the nvidia-prime package00:32
thecycloneoh thanks00:33
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Starnvfw, gnucash displays save and close and the rest is just white.. there's nothing there. just a save and close button00:50
bazhangStarn, what about the others in the link I gave you00:51
Starnbazhang, haven't gotten to them yet figured seeing how gnucash isn't working for me i'd try another. i used to use gnucash back in the day so i thought i'd start with it.00:52
vfwStarn:  Not sure where you are with it, but if you have it installed properly, you first have to set up the accounts.00:52
Starnvfw, it doesn't even give me an option too. just save and close buttons00:53
vfwStarn: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Using_GnuCash00:53
vfwStarn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAaScYVeRQ00:54
Starnvfw, nvm it is working now. i exited chrome and after loading it now it displays accounts etc.00:54
ZirgHave an issue with LTS. Added a user (useradd -m $USER), edited /etc/group and added that user to the same groups as the original user, but any time i try to log in via KDM, it drops me right back to KDM. Any thoughts, ideas on what to look into to correct this??01:01
vfwZirg: ls /home/  (do you see the home dir?)01:02
Zirgvfw, yes. it was created with the -m as it was supposed to. i can log in via a VT, w/o issues.01:04
vfwpastebinit /etc/group01:05
ecksitheya, how do i go about getting the full 40 character apt key ID from my custom apt-server?01:06
vfwZirg: df01:07
vfwZirg: What is use% for /home?01:08
Zirgvfw, still have plenty of room.01:08
vfwZirg: df -i01:08
Zirgvfw, /dev/sdb2        6.5M  518K  6.0M    8% /01:09
vfwZirg: Home is mounted on /dev/sda2 Right?01:09
nuxhow do i create access points form my usb wifi dongles. i got two of them but none will work. i tried to follow this guide : http://askubuntu.com/questions/490950/create-wifi-hotspot-on-ubuntu01:11
vfwls -l /home/user  (See who the files are owned by).01:11
nuxthey work fine in windows using virtual router.01:11
vfwls -ld /home/user  (See permissions and ownership of user)01:12
daftykinsinstall hostapd01:12
nuxdaftykins, have you tried it?01:12
daftykinsnot personally no01:13
Zirgvfw, owned by the $USER01:13
vfwpastebinit /etc/group01:14
nuxdaftykins, do i find it in some repo ? or do i need to enable some repo or compile it or?01:14
vfwZirg: Are you sure you have the password correct?01:15
vfwZirg: You *can* login to it in a terminal or console. Right?01:15
Zirghahahah. yeah, vfw. as i said earlier, i can log into a regular vt, w/o issues.01:15
quidnuncWhy can't I match on a package name in /etc/apt/preferences?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12891049/01:16
vfwZirg: Not sure really.  Have you tried just rebooting?01:16
Zirgvfw, thrice.01:16
vfwZirg: You might delet the user and re-create it.  (I use adduser username)01:16
shurtagulUnity is written with Qt right?01:21
vfwZirg: You might even remove the /home dir too.  sudo rm -rf /home/user01:22
vfwZirg: (The adduser script will make it anew)01:22
Zirgas does the useradd script01:22
Zirgsame animal, different label01:23
Zirgthe directories are there. the perms are right.01:23
vfwZirg: You are mixing apples and oranges.01:23
vfwZirg: adduser is a script01:24
Zirgno, oranges and orangutans01:24
vfwuseradd is not01:24
vfwZirg: rm -rf /home/user && userdel user && adduser user01:25
vfwZirg: Try it and see.01:25
vfwZirg: I do not know what you did wrong, but I do know how to do what you want.01:26
Zirguser's added. i'll give it a shot here in a minute. tanx for the input/assist, vfw01:27
vfwZirg: And if you don't believe me, look and see: file /usr/sbin/adduser /usr/sbin/useradd01:28
vfwZirg: You are welcome.  Glad to help01:29
Zirgvfw, oh, i believe you. i've used both. :-)  been running *nix for a  L O N G  time. first kernel was 0.3501:29
vfwRegistered Linux User #18809901:30
vfw(I've not been at it long as you, but been here a while.) (Made *many* mistakes, corrected *many* :)01:31
mbohi - i got a networking issue :/   i would like to bridge (layer2) a vlan to a vm (kvm/qemu) -  created a bridge and a vlan interface on the pyh device. ARP requests are coming out of the vm to the router outside of the host but the ARP answer does not get back to the vm. It is lost between the bridge and the virtual device of the host.01:36
mboIt does work when i configure the address on the bridge itself - in both directions …01:42
zykotick9mbo: <sidenote> i remember running into issues trying to bridge a wireless network device (also for kvm/qemu), i seem to recall reading about _most_ wireless cards not supporting it :(  YMMV, best of luck.01:44
mbozykotick9: i am using a intel nic (x710 chipset)01:45
mbono wifi - and it seems to be a problem within ubuntu.01:46
mbolol withing the bridge or between the bridge and the virtual interface01:46
zykotick9mbo: ahhhh, well, best of luck.  /me doesn't have anything more to contribute :(01:47
definityHi, My ubuntu has stoped booting, it says no media found when i boot, yet when i boot off a live USB I can see the disk how can i make it so it boots off the disk agian01:55
johnzorn_how would I change the default program a file is opened with from the command line?01:56
pbxi'm trying to mount a windows share for the first time and it's stumping me.  address given me by windows techs was \\DOMAIN_REDACTED\foo\bar\ - tried `sudo mount -t cifs` with that and got "No such device or address"01:58
imthenachomanhey guys. anyone using google authenticator for 2 factor auth with ssh? trying to see if i can make it so i only need to use two factor if the key is not there02:01
OneM_IndustriesI have a machine that I am looking at the SMART status on, and I suspect that /dev/sda and possibly b are in the process of dieing. Anyone mind looking at these to double check my work? http://pastebin.com/PjL1wge5  http://pastebin.com/4aqweJFq02:03
OneM_IndustriesAnyone have a good guide one how to interpret the smartctl output?02:11
JezzermeiiHello. Can anyone help me? I am looking to patch mesa on my powerpc installation of Debian Jessie. However, I can't seem to get the .patch files extracted from some .bins.02:14
JezzermeiiThe patches in question are here http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2013-December/050218.html02:14
Ben64ask ##debian02:15
Ben64whoops, it's #debian02:15
mbo… updating to 15.10 did it ...02:21
cfhowlett!ask | Voks02:44
ubottuVoks: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:44
imVoksChrome plays sounds on startup but when I open a jar file that plays sounds chrome stop playing sounds until I restart anyone have an idea why?02:52
BadDreamimVoks yur sound is set at half duplex perhaps....set it to full duplex02:55
definityHow can i run a program as root when in chroot?03:06
imVoksBadDream how to I set it to full duplex?03:08
imVoksI'm looking around and can't find a conclusive answer03:08
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ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:41
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Guest29045whats 8003:42
eatingthenightcan someone explain the RewriteCond $1 !^voiceCall apache rule to me? I believe it means that is the string starts with anything except voiceCall that the condition is matched?03:43
eatingthenightbut I wanted to confirm03:43
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ruben23hi guys any help my ubuntu server kernel crashed somehow and the server wont both...-----> http://pastebin.com/nBfNKHyC03:51
nameuser_hello everyone03:56
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somsipeatingthenight: I'd agree04:19
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BUSYwhat's a simple way to transfer large files between boxes directly connected through an ethernet cord?04:26
somsipBUSY: scp, possibly using rsync04:26
BUSYsomsip, nothing faster if both machines are local? i'm uninformed about rsync so i'll check into it04:29
kernelhackBUSY: what's wrong with ssh?04:29
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somsipBUSY: scp is just easy as you don't need to install much. Once negotiation is done, it's all down to connection/NIC/CPU I guess. rsyns will allow continuation if the copy stalls part way through04:31
BUSYkernelhack, what can i do once into the shell?04:31
kernelhackBUSY: use midnight commander and you can transfer files using ssh between boxes.04:33
kernelhackpackage for installation is called mc04:33
kernelhackwhen you're in mc, use the option sftp and enter the ssh credentials of the source machine. then copy the files to the local system. i hope this helps.04:35
CuriousXHi there, anyone knows the time Ubuntu 15.10 will be released ? UTM or idk :p04:39
somsipCuriousX: it's released when it's ready. It's often early afternoon EST04:40
kernelhacknot usually a specific time. the answer is usual "when it's ready".04:40
kernelhackto put it politely, most likely probably any minute/hour from now.04:41
CuriousXoh! ok, ty guys, i'll just wait :D04:41
CuriousXkernelhack,  yeah, i am so desperate :D i'm running only windows on a new hard drive, waiting to Ubuntu 15.10 :D04:42
kernelhackanticipation can be a killer. it's worth the wait. trust me, it's very stable.04:43
CuriousXi've been 5 days without my ubuntu -.-04:43
ruben23hi guys any help my ubuntu server kernel crashed somehow and the server wont both...-----> http://pastebin.com/nBfNKHyC04:44
CuriousXkernelhack, yeah!, i've been using 15.10 since the firt beta, it's pretty stable, but my disk just broke so no more Ubuntu = No more love :D04:44
creephey guys04:45
creepany help?04:46
somsipcreep: this is a support conference. What's your issue?04:47
creepim having troubles with my mozilla firefox ccrashing everytime i run videos on youtube04:47
BUSYwell, i ended up using scp and the ipv6 of the machines to connect, but that was a hassle because of the oddly unnoted syntax04:57
somsipBUSY: scp requires some special syntax. Eg: scp -6 osis@\[2001:db8:0:1\]:/home/osis/test.file ./test.file04:58
BUSYyeah i found that :D thanks though04:59
jeffrey_fI did sudo apt-get autoremove and for some reason, it removed my GUI's.  Had to reinstall.05:12
lotuspsychjejeffrey_f: you can purge seperate packages with at-get also05:13
blithenDumb question alert: Does anyone know what time normally the release is pushed to the website? Or is it sometime on the 22nd?05:14
jeffrey_fI'm just curious as to why autoremove (which, to my understanding, removes orphaned packages) killed the GUI's........05:14
lotuspsychje!wily | blithen05:14
ubottublithen: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Discussion in #ubuntu+105:14
blithenlotuspsychje: Thanks!05:15
zivesterI wrote a script for these days, a long long time ago when i programmed perl: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3pqgwp/a_simple_script_to_automatically_download_the/05:17
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YeOLdeDMI went to boot up my ubuntu machine just now and am not able to boot it up, with a kernel panic error.  I have been looking around online but can't seem to find the particular problem I'm having. can anybody here help me out?05:28
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: ubuntu version?05:28
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: yeah trusty had recent kernel update, try to load up previous kernel from grub05:30
YeOLdeDM'/sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Input/Output error' is the first line I get05:31
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: try to load your previous kernel, and investigate your logs for errors05:31
YeOLdeDMhow would I go about loading a previous kernel?05:32
zprocDoes Ubuntu Studio uses Unity too?05:32
YeOLdeDMI have no command line or any way to input anything...I boot up, get splash screen, and error05:33
lotuspsychje!studio | zproc05:33
ubottuzproc: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org05:33
zprocyes i'm on the website alreayd05:33
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: load your previous kernel from grub05:33
YeOLdeDMI have tried about the previous 4 kernels, no luck so far05:36
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: hmmm, how about you try the recoverymode==>fix broken packages05:37
YeOLdeDMsame error with recovery mode too05:38
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: ouch..that doesnt sound very good, did you do anything unusual recently?05:39
bohemiandan81hello there05:39
bohemiandan81new here05:39
lotuspsychjebohemiandan81: welcome, this channel is for ubuntu support questions05:40
lotuspsychje!discuss | bohemiandan81 chat or discuss here05:40
ubottubohemiandan81 chat or discuss here: Want to talk about Ubuntu but don't have a support question. Join #ubuntu-discuss, for other non-support discussion not Ubuntu related you can also join #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you.05:40
YeOLdeDMjust got the latest updates earlier, before going to bed05:40
YeOLdeDMand decided to reboot after waking up :P05:40
bohemiandan81will do ubottu05:40
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: wich release did you have before 14.04?05:40
YeOLdeDMwindows, lol05:41
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: ah it was a fresh install, good05:41
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: so loading all your kernels result in that librt.so error?05:42
YeOLdeDMI haven't tried them ALL yet, but yeah, that seems to be the common error05:42
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: can you remember wicj grafix card driver you using?05:43
YeOLdeDMthe default mesa drivers provided with ubuntu...anything else causes bad things to happen05:44
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: wich grafix card chipset?05:44
YeOLdeDMATI radeon HD5-something-or-another05:45
hateballYeOLdeDM: run "lspci" in a terminal instead of guessing05:45
somsip!find mkfs.xfs05:46
ubottuPackage/file mkfs.xfs does not exist in vivid05:46
YeOLdeDMI would love to, hateball :)05:46
hateballYeOLdeDM: Perhaps I have missed part of the conversation, can you not boot at all?05:46
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: he cant get into recovery or terminal05:46
hateballOh :|05:46
lotuspsychjehateball: kernel panic@ <YeOLdeDM> '/sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Input/Output error' is the first line I get05:47
lotuspsychjehateball: it happened after latest trusty kernel update05:47
YeOLdeDMI power up, get the splash screen, the grub menu, then the error05:47
hateballYeOLdeDM, lotuspsychje: And you've tried picking an older kernel in grub?05:48
YeOLdeDMseveral, yes05:48
lotuspsychjehateball: even recoverymode result to the same05:48
lotuspsychjeYeOLdeDM: you dindt use the radeon driver for ati?05:51
hateballYeOLdeDM: Do you have access to the install media?05:51
YeOLdeDMI am not using any proprietary video card drivers, if that's what you're asking lotuspsychje05:52
hateballYeOLdeDM: I would try running an fsck against your partitions first, using live media. If you havent already05:52
hateballYeOLdeDM: If it still refuses to boot, you can try following this guide http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/how-to-fix-non-bootable-ubuntu-system.html05:52
YeOLdeDMI do have the ubuntu installer (whatever you call it) on a thumb drive05:53
lotuspsychjehateball: +1 good idea05:54
hateballYeOLdeDM: As long as it is the same version as you have installed on disk, you can try following the instructions above05:55
YeOLdeDMI will try that hateball, thank you05:56
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nisargthaguys, any idea about 15.10 release time?06:09
YeOLdeDMwhen I try the command 'sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/'  I get the error 'cp: cannot create regular file '/mnt/etc/': Not a directory06:09
YeOLdeDMand it seems my /mnt folder is empty.  that isn't normal?06:10
lotuspsychje!wily | nisargtha06:10
ubottunisargtha: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Discussion in #ubuntu+106:10
lotuspsychjenisargtha: during daytime of the 23rd06:10
nisargthaoh. Thanks guys. I thought it was today. My bad.06:11
rww22nd, ne?06:11
ubottuUbuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Discussion in #ubuntu+106:14
nikolamwhere should I make new btrfs subvolume, to stop appearing beside mount point?06:17
YeOLdeDM"mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /cdrom" is the other problem I run into following hateball's link06:17
nikolamI made new with btrfs subvolume create /@share  and I get is as /@share and I want it as /share06:17
hateballYeOLdeDM: I do not think you have your install on sdb06:17
nikolamI have done set-default on its id but I still have both /share and /@share06:18
hateballYeOLdeDM: Did you try running an fsck *first*, as I asked?06:18
nikolamdo I make @share somewhere else during creation to make it not appear ?06:18
YeOLdeDMah my bad, I'm looking at the wrong output :\06:19
nikolame.g. wgere in Ubuntu @ and @home comes from?06:19
nikolam(they are seen as / and /home)06:19
nikolamdo I also have to put my new subvolume in fstab to be mounted on reboot??06:21
nikolamalso where dop I get aptitude in 14.94?06:23
YeOLdeDMhateball fsck returns 'fsck from util-linux 2.20.1"06:24
nikolamno one uses btrfs? and not care about sbvolumes?06:24
hateballYeOLdeDM: yes well, you need to supply it parameters. Pastebin me the contents of "sudo fdisk -l"06:25
hateball!paste | YeOLdeDM06:25
ubottuYeOLdeDM: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:25
omega-xishi there, I upgraded today to 15.10 and it left a few things broken, first of all unity doesn't start after login, I can right-click the desktop open up a terminal and get it to run with unity --replace, but it doesn' t start right away.06:29
omega-xissecond of all bumblebee is broken06:29
omega-xishow do I get unity to autostart again?06:29
misho_Hi everyone06:34
misho_I have a problem...06:34
misho_I am trying to remove MythTV but afret uninstalling from the left side there is infinitive pops up Restarting Frontend and this is repeating06:35
misho_What is the command for complete remove of this frontend06:35
misho_What is the command for complete remove of this frontend?06:35
nikolamanyone ever made new btrfs subvolume other then @ and @home ?06:36
omega-xis@misho_ sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv-frontend ?06:36
omega-xis unity doesn't start after login, I can right-click the desktop open up a terminal and get it to run with unity --replace, but it doesn' t start right away. how do I get unity to autostart again?06:37
nikolamhow in ubuntu to set new subvolume to mount into desired dir, without using set-default?06:37
nikolamI mounted in /mnt and made new subvolume then umounted06:38
nikolambut I want new subvolume into , say /share06:38
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nikolamI understand I have to add it now to fstab, like /home subvolume is ?06:39
nikolamI "just" have to get subvolume's UUID?06:39
locksmith2a fake-nice good afternoon to everyone06:39
kazuma_What are some good programs to use to program with linux?06:39
auronandacenikolam: blkid06:40
nikolamthanks, auronandace it just lists them but I can guess whitch uuid is it because there are only 2 of them now06:41
auronandacenikolam: there is also lsblk --fs06:44
baizonkazuma_: it depend what you want to program06:44
nikolamI mounted it to /mnt and made new subvolume there, then unmounted. then made /share dir and then put it now in fstab, but it is saying " special device _UUID_ does not exist"06:44
kazuma_baizon thanks for your reply really just basic overall any ideas or thoughts would be appreciated ty06:44
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CuriousXkazuma_, webdev ?06:47
hateballkazuma_: are you looking for an IDE or an editor?06:47
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ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)06:47
hateballYeOLdeDM: when I said paste me, I meant in channel, not pm ;)06:48
YeOLdeDMah ok06:48
nikolamaaah for subvolume in /etc/fstab, it is UUID_SUB, not UUID and I guess UUID actaully stays the same for all subvolumes, just name changes?06:48
hateballYeOLdeDM: also... I am not sure why you've pasted contents of sudoers rather than what I asked for, namely the output of "sudo fdisk -l"06:49
YeOLdeDMI saw 'sudo -l', gimme one more chance ;)06:49
nikolamsudo mount share did not complain when uuid for subvolumes is same in fstab06:50
kazuma_For windows I have used eclispe was just curious if there was a more suitable one for linux or if you guys just perfer one over another06:50
YeOLdeDMthe machine I am chatting from is a freakin dinosaur, and it's hard for me to follow chat06:50
nikolamso I think I made it. to get new btrfs subvolume  in ubuntu work properly, one need to first mount device to /mnt , make new @subvolume there , unmount, add new subvolume to /etc/fstab, make mounting dir and voila06:51
kazuma_Was just looking for more of a basic answer nothing set in stone saying one is better than another just what you guys would perfer to use overall?06:51
hateballYeOLdeDM: well you can just fire up an IRC client of choice from the live-usb, makes things a bit easier since it lets you copy/paste06:51
CuriousXkazuma_, Eclipse has its own version for Linux too06:53
hateball!info eclipse06:53
ubottueclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.1-7 (vivid), package size 15 kB, installed size 122 kB06:53
kazuma_Yea thanks for linking that I looked it up and saw they did was just curious if you guys used a different one, for instance like back in the day there where programs like mangler for voice chat that I would use on linux verses other windows applications sorry for such the noob question was just trying to get some basic info06:55
shookeeswhen's 15.10 gonna be released06:56
shookeesisn't it technically today?06:56
hateball!wily | shookees06:56
ubottushookees: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Discussion in #ubuntu+106:56
shookeesoh, thanks ;)06:56
hateballI recalled it noting the release date, my bad06:56
CuriousXnot pms kazuma_ and, related to the question, idk about general IDEs, but Webdev IDEs, i know Atom and Brackets are used a lot in webdeb comunity07:04
ubottuwily aliases: werewolf, 15.10 - added by Pici on 2015-05-04 14:33:3307:04
rww!wily =~ s/of Ubuntu./of Ubuntu. It is scheduled for release October 22nd./07:04
ubottuI'll remember that rww07:04
rwwhateball: and now it does :307:05
hateballrww: :>07:05
zprocis it OK for instance to instal the meta package gnome desktop over a regular Ubuntu install/desktop?07:06
YeOldeDMalright, I am back on my own machine now07:12
YeOldeDMhere is my fdisk -l:   http://pastebin.com/dBvqgSmD07:13
YeOldeDMhopefully my brain is working a bit better now that there is some coffee in it ;)07:14
qt-xHow can I make changes to keymap done with  setkeycode persistent ?07:20
YeOldeDMinteresting...now when I run chroot /mnt I get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Input/output error"07:20
zareteany french here ?07:24
bkioThis doesn't make sense: Downgrade the following packages: 1) libxcb-render0 [1.10-3precise1 (now) -> 1.10-2ubuntu1 (trusty)]07:29
bkioDowngrade from precise to trusty? I'm on trusty now.07:31
YeOldeDMhateball: I think I'm getting what I'm supposed to be doing here on this link you gave me, but I am still stuck with the chroot step07:31
rwwbkio: you have/had a PPA with a newer version of that library than what's in the official repositories07:31
auronandacebkio: it probably thinks it is a downgrade due to the version number of the package, 3 is greater than 207:32
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bkiook, i'll check what could be causing it07:35
* creep_ 07:40
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* LOfP 07:40
bkiothis is a disabled ppa right? /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list.disabled07:40
LOfPlooks like that07:40
LOfP.disabled means disabled07:41
bkiook, so that had precise in it. other than that everything is trusty07:41
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LOfPhey guys what all are expected in sysadmin job interview?07:42
locksmith26 fingers on each hand07:43
hateballYeOldeDM: Right, are you still here?07:46
YeOldeDMhateball yes07:47
YeOldeDMtrying the whole process a third time, for the charm07:47
hateballYeOldeDM: If you're on the live session still, run "sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1"07:47
hateballYeOldeDM: If you've tried mounting and such, then fsck will fail if the partition is still mounted07:48
YeOldeDMit failed..so is that good?07:48
creepwow so many people07:48
hateballYeOldeDM: Just means it's mounted. Easiest is to just reboot and then issue the command soon as you get to the desktop again07:48
YeOldeDMalright, brb07:49
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YeOldeDMokay, fsck gave me back a big bunch of stuff now..are you going to want that output hateball?07:57
hateballYeOldeDM: Pastebin it if you like07:57
kernelhackYeOldeDM: pastebin it.07:57
kernelhackerrr, sorry. lol07:58
hateballYeOldeDM: neat. Now try booting your system normally, see if fsck fixed it up08:00
YeOldeDMalright...wish me luck ;)08:01
colo-workhi. my laptop's "suspend to ram" feature is broken (suspending works, but resuming doesn't) in the BIOS, and won't ever get fixed. is there a way that I can force Ubuntu's desktop to NOT show me the "broken" suspend option; only hibernate?08:01
marlo_i'm trying to set aliases root: to user1@outsideaddress, user2@outsideaddress but emails are only being sent to the first email address listed08:02
the_drowIs there a release party channel for us to join?08:02
the_drowCan't wait to try the new 4.x kernel08:03
somsip!15.10 | the_drow08:03
ubottuthe_drow: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. It is scheduled for release October 22nd. Discussion in #ubuntu+108:03
hateballcolo-work: google suggests https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit/+bug/1300460/comments/3 but I havent tried this myself08:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1310845 in systemd (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1300460 systemd-logind is not honoring polickykit rules for suspend/reboot/shutdown" [Undecided,Invalid]08:03
the_drowsomsip: Thanks08:04
colo-workhateball, thanks! I'll try this.08:04
marlo_never mind, i'm stupid08:06
the_drowIs snappy going to be for ubuntu core only?08:08
YeOldeDMhateball: no luck. I get the same error on startup I was getting before08:08
bill_lxneed an install only iso -not Netinstall - not live08:11
hateballYeOldeDM: Well. Since you had a damaged filesystem, it may be in order to check your disk for physical errors. Is this an old or new machine?08:14
Iresfmy dvd writer can not read dvd or cd in ubuntu 14.04 please help me to solve this problem08:14
YeOldeDMit's an old machine, but the hard drive is fairly new08:14
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YeOldeDMthe HDD is ~6 months old or so...and everything was working fine a few hours ago...it seems strange it would just brick like that :P08:16
hateballYeOldeDM: Things tend to work until they stop, regardless of how long08:17
YeOldeDMtrue...I am just bummed08:17
hateballYeOldeDM: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"08:18
hateballpastebin the output08:18
hateballwell, not the apt-stuff, just... what smartctl reports08:18
YeOldeDMhateball: gotcha08:18
Iresfhow can i enable dvd-writer on ubuntu 14.04 ?08:18
* YeOldeDM needs to 'sudo apt-get buy new-computer' ;)08:19
R_Ti'm trying to recover files from a wubi dualboot system, seems like everything was in home.disk root.disk and 2 other .disk files. I just cant seem to find a way to open those .disk files on linux08:19
TheShagganywyone know why my proc filesystem doesn't have net.core.rmem_max  ?08:20
hateballR_T: you need to mount them08:21
hateballR_T: so just mdkir /tmp/something, then mount -o loop /path/to/file.disk /tmp/something08:22
TheShaggdolp, my shell was in a network namespace08:22
R_Tah thanks08:22
YeOldeDMhateball: I am at a 'Postfix configuration' menu after doing that. which option do I choose?08:24
hateballYeOldeDM: euh... just go with defaults08:24
hateballit's a silly dependency that08:24
YeOldeDMhateball: It just bounces between the menu and another panel that explains the menu :P08:25
YeOldeDMunless there is a 'quit' command or something I am missing08:25
hateballYeOldeDM: <enter>08:26
hateballmove about with arrows, tick boxes with space08:26
hateballI dont recall what the menu looks like, but it's a standard ncurses interface I guess08:26
YeOldeDMhateball: its msdos-like, if that's not a heretical comparison ;)08:26
YeOldeDMhitting enter goes to the first window, hitting esc goes to the menu...that is all the commands I can find so far08:27
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YeOldeDMspacebar doesn't seem to do anything08:28
mcphailYeOldeDM: You will probably be able to get to an "Apply" button or similar by using the tab key08:28
newradiohow do i change the shortcut for trash can - Super + t - to point to terminal?08:28
YeOldeDMhttp://s30.postimg.org/69otm745t/Screenshot_from_2015_10_22_08_28_16.png   that is what it looks like08:29
YeOldeDMaha, tab does stuff08:30
YeOldeDMhateball:  http://pastebin.com/tJTecjZe08:34
hateballYeOldeDM: well it looks fine to me08:37
hateballYeOldeDM: I don't really know what more you can do from here, other than try the chroot path to repair/upgrade packages. Or backup your userdata and reinstall.08:38
YeOldeDMwould a re-install of the OS be an option?  backing up what I need would be a pain, but not impossible08:38
hateballYeOldeDM: Well sadly you do not have /home on its own partition, if you did it would be dead simple08:38
newradioanyone understands keyboard shortcuts on ubuntu?08:39
baizonnewradio: yes08:39
newradiohi baizon08:39
newradioI want to reassign super+t to open a terminal08:39
newradiobaizon: cant do it using the keyboard gui in the control panel08:40
newradiobaizon: commandline?08:40
shwouchkI'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04, but I can't get any of the tools that do this to recognize the new distro08:42
baizonshwouchk: you cant upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04, you have to upgrade 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.0408:44
baizonnewradio: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/35688/how-can-i-change-unitys-super-t-binding-to-something-else08:44
newradiobaizon: i read that08:44
baizonnewradio: you have to remove super as standard key, then you can reassign super +t for terminal08:45
newradiobaizon: how do i do this? (using preferably a sane api?)08:46
newradioit should be that a list of keyboard shortcuts - that is searchable - and one can just point to the one wants to change - and change it - it looks insane?08:46
shwouchkbaizon: thanks. Actually I figured out what the problem is - for some reason changing settings in update-manager does not work. I changed it manually via vim and now the tools recognize a new version (15.04 right away by the way). Now the problem is that the server that I'm supposed to use doesn't carry it for some reason.08:46
mcphailshwouchk: If you try to update straight to 15.04, you will break your system08:47
shwouchkmcphail: that's what ubuntu's upgrade tool wants to do however. What is your alternative suggestion?08:48
baizonshwouchk: then you did something wrong when you did "changed it manually"08:48
mcphailshwouchk: reinstall. There is no supported upgrade path from 14.04 to 15.04 as 14.10 is eond-of-life08:48
baizonshwouchk: what does do-release-upgrade report?08:48
baizonmcphail: ou ok, then yes shwouchk you have to do a reinstall08:49
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades08:49
baizonforgot about eol08:49
shwouchkbaizon: did nothing wrong when I "manually changed it". just changed the setting from lts to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades08:51
mcphailshwouchk: read the link hateball asked ubottu to post. The 14.10 servers are down. You'd need to tweak that08:51
shwouchkalso, since you claim I should reinstall, I obviously have nothing to lose (other than half an hour of my time)08:52
shwouchkby doing -> 15.0408:52
mcphailshwouchk: well, enjoy that08:52
shwouchkmcphail: If that won't work I'll just change to a distro that doesn't throw me under the bus every 6 months08:53
mcphailshwouchk: up to you. 14.04 is still supported and will be for a long time yet08:54
shwouchkso it is not in EOL08:54
mcphailshwouchk: no - 14.04 is a LTS release08:54
mcphailshwouchk: if you don't want to be thrown under any bus, stick with LTS08:55
shwouchkmcphail: I know that. I'm saying that baizon/hateball's claim that it is in EOL is not correct.08:55
hateballshwouchk: I'm not saying 14.04 is EOL08:55
mcphailshwouchk: 14.10 is EOL, and the only safe way to upgrade to 15.04 is via 14.1008:55
shwouchkmcphail: will I have a safe way to upgrade to *something* when support runs out?08:56
mcphailshwouchk: you will be able to upgrade direct from 14.04 to 16.0408:56
hateballYou will be taken straight to 16.04 when it is released, as that is the next LTS08:56
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)08:56
shwouchkin that case, fine, I'll just wait.08:58
mcphailshwouchk: and be aware that 15.04 will be out of support in 3 months. 15.10 is about to be released and would be a better target if you want newer packages. Again, though, there is no direct upgrade path from 14.0408:58
YeOldeDMhateball: thank you again for your help. I am just biting the bullet and backing-up/restoring.08:59
hateballYeOldeDM: if you like, you can choose to do manual partitioning during this install and put /home on its own. Simplifies things if your system decides to murder itself again09:00
alpaca_sida_xDUBUNTUUU LOCUUU09:00
alpaca_sida_xDTENIU SIDA O NO?09:00
YeOldeDMhateball: I will certainly look into that09:01
cfhowlettalpaca_sida_xD, good way to get /ignored09:01
cfhowlett!es |09:01
ubottu: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.09:01
alpaca_sida_xDGOOD BYE09:01
Moz_ho all. I can correctly set my environment variable for python when I SSH to a server by running "export PYTHONPATH=mypath" but how do I set it for a service? Do I need to set it in the init.d conf and how would I do that?09:06
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baizonMoz_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables09:08
Moz_bhavesh, thanks, I'll see if I can find something in there. the system wide env variable using profile.d looks like it will probabaly work for what I want09:09
bhaveshMoz_: er, what? I suppose that was not meant for me09:11
Moz_bhavesh, ah yes sorry.09:11
Moz_baizon, thanks, I'll see if I can find something in there. the system wide env variable using profile.d looks like it will probabaly work for what I want09:11
baizonMoz_: yep, that should work09:14
gugaexcuse me for my english... could you help me, please... which mistakes i can make when i'll be install ubuntu server at my home pc? don't throw stones at me...09:25
cfhowlett!server | guga09:27
ubottuguga: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server09:27
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gugacfhowlett: yes, server09:29
cfhowlettguga, ask the other channel.09:30
Innokentytest in virtualbox09:30
somsipguga: install desktop on a home PC, and server on a server. Use minimal if you want a small install on a home PC and add to it09:30
somsip!test | Innokenty09:30
ubottuInnokenty: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )09:30
RepThis1hey guys, I have gnome installed on my machine but switched over to kde-standard and was wondering how do i wipe/purge or completely remove all traces of gnome? Reading about it there are many different suggestions such as: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge gnome, sudo apt-get autoremove gnome*, or a very specific process like sudo apt-get autoremove gdm3 before running sudo apt-get autoremove --purge gnome*09:31
somsipRepThis1: IME, tricky and not worth bothering with09:31
wakko123does anyone l´know if LUKS is good for OSX09:32
somsipRepThis1: Though there may be a post on PsychoCats that has some suggestions...09:32
somsip!ot | wakko123 (this is ubuntu, not osx)09:32
ubottuwakko123 (this is ubuntu, not osx): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:32
cfhowlettwakko123, ask #lsx09:32
wakko123aa thanks09:32
RepThis1somsip:  IME?09:32
somsipRepThis1: In My Experience. Have a read of this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu09:33
wakko123ok then help me out witch is the best security program for ubuntu when it comes to firewall vpn etc09:33
cfhowlett!ufw | wakko12309:33
ubottuwakko123: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo09:33
somsipRepThis1: and read carefully as it is out of date09:33
ubottuNot yet!09:36
RepThis1If i actually had the time i would read up on the commands that find its dependencies and save that and diff compare afterwards and look for commands that automatically run and look for child objects or w/e, but if i did that for everything(the methodology of it) i'd move pretty slow. I'm prob just gonna hope the developers know what they were doing and use more of the automated commands. Not a big fan of how that suggested page approaches, s09:38
RepThis1ounds and looks to be hit or miss unfortunately.09:38
somsipRepThis1: hence my original statement09:38
RepThis1somsip: yeah, thx though. ill bookmark this page if its suppose to have other insightful information.09:39
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OnceMeHello, I started win8 install from uefi usb bios and now I purged all partitions09:46
OnceMedoes that mean Im getting UEFI partitions now? and linux ubuntu will recognize and install uefi ones?09:47
meowkatlooks like you need to reinstall windows09:47
OnceMeEriC^^:you here? :D09:47
EriC^^hey, yeah09:47
OnceMemeowkat:yes thats what Im doing09:47
EriC^^what's up?09:47
OnceMebut I dont want to end up with broken partitions like I used t ohve09:47
meowkatjust press next i should format them if you already deleted them09:47
OnceMeEriC^^:I booted from usb in uefi mode and purged all partitions09:48
OnceMemeowkat:well I purged them and Im in win8 disk partitioned09:48
OnceMeand I see Drive 0 Unallocated space: 930GB09:48
OnceMeso I guess I need to make at least two disks, one system reserved and second ntfs09:48
EriC^^OnceMe: let it partition by itself09:49
OnceMeisnt win8 then going to use all 931GB of disk?09:49
OnceMeif I dont partition unallocated space?09:49
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EriC^^OnceMe: you can shrink it later in win809:50
OnceMeok but why to do this when I can do it right now09:50
OnceMesince im in partition maanger?09:50
OnceMeEriC^^:I'm confused, I mean why to delegate something I can do right now09:51
renanHow can one see what is/will be included in the next version of Ubuntu (16.04), like their packages and versions?09:52
EriC^^OnceMe: if you can let win8 partition as it wants, and then shrink in the partitioner go ahead09:52
OnceMehmm win8 partitioner made me 4 new partitions :O09:53
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OnceMeone with 300GB which is fine and one for recovery one for system and one is msr (reserved)09:54
OnceMeis this good or bad?09:54
OnceMeI have 600GB of unallocated space though09:54
OnceMeEriC^^:is this fine should I proceed?09:55
OnceMeand also this is uefi, correct?09:55
EriC^^if you want 600 for ubuntu yeah09:55
OnceMeok, installing win8 ;)09:55
OnceMeand now I need to dl ubuntu09:56
OnceMeIm thinking between 14.04 and 15.0409:56
OnceMewhy would I go with older ubuntu?09:56
OnceMewhats wrong with 15.04?09:56
OnceMeI guess 15.05 have the latest repos and such..?09:56
ubottuUbuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/vivid09:56
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu and is the latest !LTS version. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ - CHECK FOR POINT RELEASES at http://releases.ubuntu.com - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes09:57
bekksOnceMe: How many weeks will we have to discuss that 14.04/15.04 since it was explained in detail to you yesterday? :)09:57
OnceMeI never asked for 15.0409:58
OnceMeI was always recommended 14.04 without any further discussion :)09:58
gdm85hi there. I am trying to install Ubuntu on a macbook pro, however only the desktop amd64 usb is seen by refind (not even mac-amd64). I could start this amd64 install with nomodeset, but it gets stuck after DKMS :(09:58
gdm85definitely not the first time I see this issue with installs..09:58
bekksOnceMe: Yeah, since it was LTS, which you admitted is what you want :)09:58
cfhowlett!mac | gdm8510:03
ubottugdm85: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages10:03
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kleinricIs there any indication of what time 15.10 will be released today?10:13
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bekksat done'o'clock ;)10:13
kleinriclol, thanks :P10:13
Ben64shouldn't the topic be updated to reflect that10:14
kleinricthat would make sense, I'd imagine that a lot of people will be here asking that...10:15
Ben64hmm, its actually not coming up on ubuntu.com10:15
ubottuNot yet!10:15
Ben64ubottu: you said yes in #ubuntu-offtopic you liar!10:15
ubottuBen64: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:15
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apollo_hi averyone10:17
apollo_how to install steam client?10:18
Ben64open ubuntu software center, search for steam, install it10:19
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.10:20
apollo_ill do that, he was installed but dont run... (10:20
apollo_ubuntu i386 (x86) MATE desktop environment, maybe need install 64-bit version ubuntu?10:21
OnceMeuhm when I boot from usb uefi and select install ubuntu I get a black screen for 2 mins and then Ignoring BGRT: invalid status 0 ACPI PCC probe failed. radeon Invalid rom contents and get BusyBox initramfs Unable to finda  medium containig live file system10:22
OnceMewhat is happening>10:22
bekksyour install medium is broken most likely.10:22
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OnceMeno its not10:23
OnceMeI just burned it from iso10:24
bekksWhich doesnt mean it isnt broken.10:24
avuhave you checked the hash?10:24
bekksIt just means you just created it.10:24
OnceMeI have two graphic cards10:24
apollo_do you try install other PC (machine) ? if problem stay that distr files bad10:24
OnceMeproblem is with my graphic cards for sure10:24
OnceMeI dont get usual ubuntu install screen but instead I get GNU Grub10:25
bekksOnceMe: If you know better - why do you ask?10:25
bekksOnceMe: Did you compare the checksums?10:25
apollo_what a videocards you have?10:26
gdm85cfhowlett: I've read that, no dice10:26
OnceMeapollo_:video cards?10:26
OnceMeYou mean GPU?10:26
bekksOnceMe: Did you compare the checksums?10:26
OnceMehow to do that under windows bekks?10:27
bekksOnceMe: Do do it.10:27
apollo_GPU is a graphic processor unit10:27
apollo_on a video card have GPU + memory and RCB xD )))10:27
bekksOnceMe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM10:27
apollo_nice chat )10:29
moteWasn't Wily supposed to be released today??10:29
ubottuNot yet!10:29
Ben64sometime in the next 24hrs10:29
jdrumhellerit' out.10:29
Gamoder_Hi everyone, is it possible to, using a ssh connect, tempoarily connect to a different WLAN, execute some command and then reconnecting to the old WLAN? While being temporaily connected to the other WLAN there would maybe be no internet connection10:29
Gamoder_(Ubuntu 14.04)10:29
Ben64it isn't actually10:29
avujdrumheller: the images being there doesn't mean it's released10:30
apollo_i think this chat a help chat )))))))10:30
bekksGamoder_: Sure, do it manually.10:30
motejdrumheller: thanks. is it the final?10:30
avumote: we don't know. it's not released yet.10:30
Gamoder_bekks: Yeah, but the problem is: If I code something myself for that, I probably make an error preventing me to reconnect to my old wlan then then I have no connection any more10:31
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gdm85is it possible to start the curses install with this desktop install dvd?10:31
Gamoder_so if there is a standard, surely working solution I would prefer it10:31
bekksGamoder_: There is no other chance than doing it manually.10:31
moteAre there a 'usual' time on the release day?10:31
bekksmote: No.10:32
Gamoder_why? There could be a script doing it where I would just have to add the commands I want to use and it could interactively ask for the other wlan connection or so10:32
bekksGamoder_: If you suspect a script existing for it already, you have to search for it, since you dont like the answer you got.10:33
jdrumhellerhow could it not  be out, when the hashes for the isos are posted?10:33
moteone should think there are some release party or something10:33
jdrumhellerece816e12f97018fa3d4974b5fd27337 *ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso10:33
jdrumheller7d483b990de4e1369b76b7b693737191 *ubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso10:33
jdrumhellerfb4eef05edcabfc5cccd4cb44f3f9b48 *ubuntu-15.10-server-amd64.iso10:33
jdrumheller0d9ee8b0b0205a8487d6ed8785ee63a8 *ubuntu-15.10-server-i386.iso10:33
bekksjdrumheller: image sync process still in progress?10:33
Gamoder_I don't know if such a thing exists, thus I am asking here ...10:33
hateballPerhaps hashes are faster to post than to replicate ISOs across all mirrors10:33
avujdrumheller: that's not how releases work. after the "final" images are built, there is still QA to be done10:33
avujdrumheller: once that's finished and all the mirrors have the correct images, the actual release happens10:34
bulkorokhi. I try to install kamailio and kamailio-mysql-modules on trusty. Dependencies say I need mysql-client, which can't be installed because I have mysql-client-5.6 already installed but mysql-client points to mysql-client-5.5. I have to use 5.6, so what can I do?!10:34
gdm85by choosing reinstall Ubuntu, it screwed up all the partitions (not just the ubuntu partitions). nice10:35
OnceMewell try ubuntu live work10:36
moteThere are usually an official release statment10:36
OnceMeso I dont see how could disk be broken10:36
bekksOnceMe: Did you compare the checksums?10:36
OnceMehowever I still see ubuntu disk in bios, why?10:36
OnceMeI dont hve ubuntu installed yet10:36
OnceMeand I purged all partitions10:36
bekksOnceMe: Did you compare the checksums?10:36
moteguess i will wait some more, on central EU10:37
bekksmote: Just wait until it is released :)10:37
Pattecan i install ubuntu on 2nd hdd with its own ESP?10:38
motebekks. hate waiting for stuff. ;-)10:38
bekksPatte: Whats "ESP" in the context of installing Ubuntu?10:38
Pattebekks: ESP = Efi System Partition10:39
OnceMeInternal Server Error10:39
OnceMefor https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes10:39
OnceMehow to check it?10:39
bekksOnceMe: BY reading the link I gave you.10:39
Quellelhi, i've almost finished my rpi config. I found a backup (rsync) script, which can stop services before backing up data, but unfortonatly it can't stop kodi. Backups will good, when the kodi is running? sudo service kodi stop doesn't work form console too. I won't make backup about kodi, only other folders.10:41
OnceMemd5 checksums are the same10:42
OnceMenow whats next?10:43
bekksOnceMe: Which checksums did you compare?10:44
OnceMeubuntu 14.04-4 desktop amd6410:45
OnceMeand that is fine, however hmm10:45
bekksThat are just fragments of a possible answer.10:45
OnceMeI now booted into efi mode and I get graphical interface10:45
OnceMeIm not sure what is happening10:45
OnceMeUEFI doesnt work, EFI works fine10:45
EriC^^Patte: yeah you can10:45
bekksUEFI is the same as EFI.10:45
OnceMethen im fine installing ubuntu while in efi?10:46
EriC^^this is like a bad cassette player10:46
OnceMeI just dont want to end up with the same system I had10:46
bekksOnceMe: Since your computer uses EFI - you HAVE to install it in EFI mode.10:46
OnceMehow come I installed win8 in UEFI?10:47
EriC^^OnceMe: type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi if the files exist you're booted in uefi mode, install ubuntu as usual and you should be good10:47
bekksOnceMe: So how is that relevant to your current issue?10:47
OnceMeEriC^^:where to type that? on a live session?10:47
EriC^^OnceMe: uefi is efi, as opposed to legacy10:47
bazhangOnceMe, Uefi and Efi are the same10:47
OnceMealso hmm Installation type says this: This computer currently has no detected operating systems ,what would you like to do?10:47
OnceMeHow come, I have win8 installed.10:47
bekksOnceMe: you installed Win 8.1 in legacy mode.10:48
bazhangOnceMe, can you see what I just typed, please respond10:48
OnceMebekks:so is that bad?10:48
EriC^^OnceMe: can you type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 ?10:48
DyzemCurrently dual-booting Win10 and Ubuntu and wanting to know what the easiest way of having shared files (work, movies etc) between the two are? I've seen a few guides on Ext2Fsd, reading/writing from one /home/ or a shared drive.10:48
bekksOnceMe: Answer the question of EriC^^.10:48
OnceMeEriC^^:under live session?10:48
bazhangshared drive Dyzem of ntfs10:49
OnceMeEriC^^: termbin.com/quws10:49
Dyzembazhang, thanks. And there's nothing else I need to do to it, just a formatted NTFS drive should do?10:50
bazhangDyzem, correct10:50
OnceMeis win8 in legacy mode? I dont know why is that so, but I booted usb in UEFI mode10:50
Dyzembazhang, great.10:50
EriC^^OnceMe: ok, in the ubuntu installer choose Something else10:51
EriC^^OnceMe: did you try ls -l /sys/firmware/efi ?10:51
OnceMeok and what about this /dev/sdb warning?10:51
vltHello. Any idea how to not-forward a special key combination like Super+Space (for switching keyboard layouts) to the remote screen in xvnc4viewer’s fullscreen mode?10:51
EriC^^it's for the usb i think, you only have one hdd right?10:51
OnceMeno such file or directoryt10:51
OnceMeEriC^^:yes only one10:51
EriC^^OnceMe: ok, so you're booted in legacy mode, reboot the live usb in uefi mode10:52
OnceMeEriC^^:when I reboot into uefi mode I cannot do anything10:52
OnceMeI dont get graphical interface10:52
OnceMeI get that error I pasted above10:52
EriC^^OnceMe: what do you get?10:52
EriC^^can you repaste it?10:52
OnceMeuhm when I boot from usb uefi and select install ubuntu I get a black screen for 2 mins and then Ignoring BGRT: invalid status 0 ACPI PCC probe failed. radeon Invalid rom contents and get BusyBox initramfs Unable to finda  medium containig live file system10:52
OnceMethere is that10:53
EriC^^OnceMe: ok, how did you make the live usb?10:53
OnceMeusing poweriso10:53
EriC^^try using linuxlive10:53
karanvirUse lili linux live usb creator10:53
karanviror rufus10:53
OnceMeis that linux or windows tool?10:53
karanvirWindows tool10:54
EriC^^OnceMe: or better yet, where is the iso stored right now? windows?10:54
EriC^^ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt10:54
EriC^^OnceMe: type that command in a terminal10:54
OnceMeunder live session?10:54
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OnceMeIm right now on windows10:55
EriC^^ok, try linux live10:55
OnceMethe ntfs partition is not in the safe state10:55
karanvir*usb creator10:55
EriC^^OnceMe: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/10:55
EriC^^OnceMe: you're confusing me, are you in the live session or not?10:56
LionyxProgressing with a issue I had yestarday (and I still have): wlan0 (built-in card) doesn't connect to my Workplace wifi! but if i put in a dongle wlan1, it's all ok!!! Someone told me to use dmesg to monitor something. Well, here you go: http://pastebin.com/wyaSKsUx10:56
OnceMelinux iso is under windows10:56
OnceMeIm in live session10:56
LionyxThe problem appears on the first part of the paste. After by some miracle. It connects!!! Can anybody help? tks!10:56
OnceMebut im going to kil since I need to10:56
OnceMeok using linuxliveusb10:56
EriC^^OnceMe: ok, but you're booted in the ubuntu live session right now? right?10:56
OnceMenot anymore10:56
OnceMeas you said to remake usb10:56
BluesKajHiyas all10:57
OnceMelinux live usb is not even recognizing my usb11:00
EriC^^OnceMe: try to format it in windows11:00
OnceMewell under windows it does not recognize my usb11:00
ddest time 15.10?11:00
bekksdd: done'o'clock11:01
ubottuNot yet!11:01
bazhang!party | dd11:01
ubottudd: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Vivid release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3075/11:01
OnceMeEriC^^:any other tool?11:02
EriC^^OnceMe: i'd boot the live session again and use dd11:02
EriC^^OnceMe: restart windows ( don't shutdown )11:02
EriC^^and boot into it11:02
ducassebazhang: 15.10 _is_ out, just downloaded it.11:04
bazhangducasse, no its not11:04
ducassebazhang: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/11:04
OnceMeEriC^^:hmm win8 runned repait automatic tool11:05
OnceMebecase I set hdd to run in uefi irst11:05
OnceMemaybe my win8 is now uefi and not in legacy mode anymore?11:05
EriC^^OnceMe: your win8 is in uefi, it always was i think11:05
OnceMeyou said it was in legacy mode?11:05
EriC^^no i didn't11:06
OnceMeanyway should I now boot from uefi or not for live ubuntu session?11:06
EriC^^if you can get it to boot in uefi that'd be great11:06
OnceMeok trying11:07
EriC^^if not try booting in legacy, you can either try making the live usb again with dd, or install in legacy mode and later convert11:07
OnceMebut yeah I cant the same error I used to have11:07
OnceMeactually wait a sec11:07
OnceMeok booted in uefi11:07
Lionyxsince I'll be handling Debian for my installed system from now, i'll continue this issue there. tks11:07
OnceMeEriC^^:but I didnt checked try ubuntu first11:07
OnceMeI went str8 to install ubuntu11:07
OnceMeshould I go back?11:08
EriC^^OnceMe: try pressing ctrl+alt+f111:08
EriC^^login as "ubuntu" and no password11:08
OnceMeI see in /efi/ dirs11:08
freerouteis it happening? Did it happen already?11:08
EriC^^OnceMe: in ls -l /sys/firmware/efi ?11:08
OnceMeand I also mounted /dev/sda4 too11:09
EriC^^OnceMe: ok, install as usual then11:09
EriC^^OnceMe: no need to mount /dev/sda411:09
EriC^^type sudo umount /dev/sda411:09
OnceMeIll restart11:09
OnceMebecause I entered try ubuntu11:09
OnceMenot ubuntu install11:09
EriC^^it's ok11:09
EriC^^click on install ubuntu on the desktop11:09
OnceMetoo late I already restarted ;(11:10
EriC^^you need to slow down a bit :D11:10
OnceMeok so ctrl alt f111:11
EriC^^OnceMe: step by step11:12
bekksNo need to.11:12
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EriC^^did you press try ubuntu?11:12
OnceMeinstall ubuntu in uefi mode11:12
EriC^^ok press it11:12
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EriC^^if you have that option, go for it11:12
OnceMeok step by step im booting ubuntu in uefi mode11:12
OnceMeso to press try ubuntu without installing11:12
OnceMeor Install Ubuntu ?11:13
OnceMeI have OEM and Check disc for defects options too11:13
EriC^^you have a grub menu right now? ( black and white text ) ?11:13
EriC^^OnceMe: ok, great, press install ubuntu11:13
OnceMeok got graphical interface now11:13
OnceMewith langauges and that11:14
OnceMeshould I do ctrl alrt f1 now?11:14
EriC^^that's irrelevant now11:14
OnceMeare you 100% sure im in uefi ? and have that in /efi?11:14
bekksBecause you did earlier andprovided the informationen earlier.11:14
EriC^^with uefi you get a grub menu11:14
OnceMegood, now to hit download updates and install this third party I guess?11:15
OnceMeok even better11:15
OnceMenow ubuntu recognizes my win811:15
OnceMeit says This computer currently has Windows boot Manager on it11:15
OnceMeWhat would you like to do?11:15
OnceMeInstall ubuntu alongside windows boot manager11:15
OnceMesomething else or erase disk and install ubuntu :D11:15
EriC^^install alongside11:16
OnceMeso I wont partition anything?11:16
OnceMeit will do it for me? will use free unallocated space fully?11:16
EriC^^no, it'll take care of everything using the free space11:16
OnceMeno separate /home /boot /efi / ?11:16
EriC^^no, just a "/"11:16
freeroutewait, I might have missed the whole thing, but why not install Ubuntu in a VM instead?11:16
OnceMeok, so thats better?11:16
EriC^^and swap11:16
EriC^^freeroute: please not now, we're so close11:16
EriC^^lol :P11:17
freerouteEriC^^: lol ok :p11:17
OnceMeso I have ext4 which is fine11:17
OnceMeand partition 6 as swap11:17
OnceMebut I dont see size of partitions anywhere..11:17
EriC^^OnceMe: it's ok, it'll use it all11:17
OnceMewhayts default for swap?11:17
EriC^^and swap will be as big as your ram11:17
OnceMeok I have 8GB of ram11:17
EriC^^that's ok11:18
OnceMeand now hmm11:18
OnceMeshould I encrypt my home folder xd11:18
EriC^^up to you, it's a hassle if you don't need it11:18
EriC^^brb lunch11:18
OnceMewell I can always encrypt it in the future right?11:18
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: bon apetit11:19
freerouteOnceMe: yes, if you so choose to.11:20
OnceMemeh Im going to encrypt it11:20
freerouteI wouldn't do that if I were a beginner11:20
EriC^^lotuspsychje: thanks :D11:20
bekksOnceMe: You took tzhree days to recover your data.11:20
bekksOnceMe: do you REALLY want to go through that hassle again?11:21
OnceMeactually yeah11:21
freeroutelol I know those feels11:21
OnceMeI can always encrypt in the future :D11:21
bekksGood luck. I'm finally out of your issue then.11:21
OnceMeok installing.. hopefully I will be able to use my GPU11:21
apollo_what GPU you use?11:23
OnceMeintegrated is intel something11:24
apollo_ok )11:24
OnceMemy gpu is AMD RADEON R7 250 GIGABYTE 2GB GDDR5, VGA/DVI/HDMI/128BIT/GV-R725O5-2GI11:24
apollo_ HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-31-generic i686 ** Distro: Ubuntuo "vividuo" 15.04uo ** CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2,10GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,9GiB, 70,7% free ** Disk: Total: 142,6GiB, 90,5% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation G96GL [Quadro FX 580] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 1h 53m 47s **11:27
OnceMeso what driver do I need for that gpu?11:28
apollo_you have two VGA (GPU) cards ? intel integrated and ATI radeon ?11:29
apollo_))) what is monitor cable connected is a integrated VGA or ATI VGA?11:30
apollo_you have ONE cable and he only have ONE connection ))) xD11:30
apollo_your monitor have cable, just see what a vga card have connection this cable (sorr from my english)11:32
OnceMeI dont have VGA I have DVI cable11:32
OnceMewhats unclear?11:32
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apollo_ok just see what is GPU have DVI connection to monitor11:34
b100si have something strange, guys11:35
lotuspsychjeb100s: shoot11:36
kernelhackb100s: shoot us!11:36
b100srar archive under password, which can be unpacked with any pass.. it gives me directory ierarchy and files which looks good.. but files is broken! each .doc file is broken.11:36
b100swhat is it?)))11:36
chotaz`wb100s, bad password mb11:37
kernelhackchotaz`w: agree. bad password.11:37
apollo_of course bad pass11:37
b100sso i cant use rarcrack for that11:37
lotuspsychjeb100s: no cracking discussions here please11:37
b100sbecause it gives me false true11:37
b100soh, sorry11:38
kernelhackb100s: wrong place for that bro.11:38
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b100si thought my rar just unusual11:38
lotuspsychjeb100s: like the guys told you, bad password11:38
ducassehas anyone here used attic for backups?11:39
apollo_attic a program?11:39
lotuspsychjeducasse: better ask your issue with it to the channel11:39
ducasselotuspsychje: ok, i was just wondering if it does deduplication across repositories or just within a repo11:40
lotuspsychjeducasse: man attic shows unything usefull info?11:40
ducasselotuspsychje: it isn't clear on the issue11:40
zetherooI am still having these issues with slow write to USB sticks in Ubuntu 14.04. Looking around online other people are still having these issues as well but there seems to be no solution.11:41
lotuspsychjeducasse: there is a small #attic channel for you, maybe they might know?11:41
lovinamn'google nuance dragon11:41
lotuspsychjeducasse: share to the channel please11:41
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ducasselotuspsychje: thanks, i'll try there and get back.11:41
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bb6xtHey guys, been refreshing ubuntu.com/desktop since waiting for wily to drop but no show yet. Is the wily release going to have snappy as the default package manager?11:44
lotuspsychje!wily | bb6xt11:44
ubottubb6xt: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. It is scheduled for release October 22nd. Discussion in #ubuntu+111:44
ashleyhindleHi - when running 'curl https://domain.com' it's complaining about the certificate. openssl says RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3 and GeoTrust Global CA are in the chain, but I can't see RapidSSL in /etc/ca-certificates.conf11:45
ashleyhindleShould RapidSSL be in /etc/ca-certificates.conf?11:45
bb6xtubottu: but today is the 22nd of october!11:45
nikolamhow do you install teamviewer on 64 bit LTS (14.04) it complains on some libs11:45
Ben64bb6xt: its still the 22nd for like 24 more hours11:45
nikolaminstalling 64bit temaviewer with dpkg also mars it as broken etc11:46
ejnahci'm using private network between ubuntu and coreos server, when i type wget sql dump file (about 392M) to download from ubuntu server, then always "destination host unreachable" error occurs. if i don't type wget something, connection between private network is fine. just i type wget, then connection breaks. no files changes in /var/log/*. how can i fix11:47
ejnahcthis problem?11:47
ejnahcin addition i'm using vultr cloud server11:47
bb6xtBen64: I get that am just too anxious to get it. I've been seriously tempted to install the beta but thought better of it11:47
Ben64bb6xt: then get it, it will upgrade to final11:48
lotuspsychjebb6xt: few hours patience11:48
Jakey3how do i uncompress a .xz file11:49
nikolammissing libasound2 for teamviewer11:49
bb6xt@Ben64, @lotuspsychje: will snappy be replacing apt in the Wily release?11:50
Jakey3peder, tar -unxz foo.img.xz11:50
lotuspsychjebb6xt: #ubuntu+1 for wily discussions please11:51
pederJakey3: no, just unxz foo.img.xz11:51
freeroutebb6xt: AFAIK snappy won't be replacing apt any time. They will co-exist.11:51
nikolamoh I see I need 32bit Teamviewer for using multiarch11:51
Jakey3peder, ok, thanks11:51
pederJakey3: tar is for .tar.xz (or other .tar.whatever), and then you can use 'tar axf foo.tar.whatever'11:52
lotuspsychjeafternoon ioria11:53
iorialotuspsychje, afternoon ... how it's going ?11:53
lotuspsychjecome to discuss ioria :p11:54
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nikolamwhat is the best way of giving to specific user user or to the group access to physical disk drive (for use with virtualbox)11:58
nikolamI for test gave rw do /dev/sdb to use with virtualbox, but I think I need something that survives reboot11:59
nikolamalso goes for giving access to usb devices11:59
NindustriesHi guys, so I did an upgrade and " grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common" seem to be stuck forever.. suggestions?11:59
nikolamI made user member of virtualbox group, what group does it needs to be to be able to use physical disk11:59
Nindustriesin top, I can see a /sbin/init nomdmonddf consuming CPU12:00
NindustriesI'm kinda afraid to reboot it..12:02
Nindustriesdmesg; delaying data-check of md1 until md3 has finished (they share one or more physical units)12:03
slovn1khello guys12:10
slovn1kwho has upgraded to 15.10???12:11
k1lslovn1k: the people in #ubuntu+1 as long as its not officially released yet :)12:11
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Laposwhich is the linux distribution who have the better documentation? I'm trying to learn using the oficial ubuntu documentation but i see text like "This is a known, wishlist issue that we hope to solve for Ubuntu 10.04. " ..12:14
k1l!rute | Lapos12:15
ubottuLapos: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com12:15
Laposk1l, i'm here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome12:15
Laposand they are talking like we are on 9.1012:15
k1lcould be that its at that state and no one did update that. yes12:16
lkthomasLOL, right after I turned on UFW, everything just silent12:16
Laposi want to learn about linux but i need a realiable documentation12:16
iorialkthomas, you have to configure it with rules... allow, deny, in out, protocol .... etc. etc...12:17
cfhowlett!manual | lapos12:17
ubottulapos: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/12:17
Laposthe manual is about 13.10 not exist from 14.04LTS?12:17
lkthomasioria, I did, this is a Ubuntu IP router so nothing much need to add on ufw12:18
cfhowlettLapos, get it, read it.  you'll learn12:18
Laposokey thanks cfhowlett12:18
Laposbut is not my first day using ubuntu12:18
iorialkthomas, ok12:18
TisButMeHi everyone. I've just lost all ethernet connectivity, after an update yesterday. Tried another cable, still nothing. Can someone please help? (Ubuntu 15.04)12:18
lkthomasLapos, no easy day12:18
k1lLapos: its not like everything changes completly with every ubuntu release12:19
lkthomasioria, can I block ARP broadcast by the way ?12:19
cfhowlettwww.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads          if you read all issues and do the projects, you will be an ubuntu expert12:20
mescif anyone is awake12:20
mescI could use some help12:20
lotuspsychje!ask | mesc12:20
ubottumesc: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:20
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)12:20
cfhowlett!ask | mesc12:20
mesctrying to install, worried ubuntu may have overwritten one of my secondary or tertiary drives12:20
mesc!ask | installing I have a keyboard with two usb inputs and it refuses to recognize it12:21
ubottuinstalling I have a keyboard with two usb inputs and it refuses to recognize it: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:21
iorialkthomas, you mean dns 53... no, don't think so12:21
mesc!ask | i don't have another input device12:21
ubottui don't have another input device: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:21
lkthomasioria, no, this one: 20:19:24.933796 ARP, Request who-has (Broadcast) tell, length 4212:21
mescI feel like I'm talking to the comcast automated service12:22
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iorialkthomas, not sure... but i think not12:24
iorialkthomas, " It kinda helps prevent IP collisions and helps domain controller devices and routers know what system has which IP(s) for routing purposes"12:25
lkthomasioria, yeah, hmm12:26
lkthomasI think we are done here :)12:26
lkthomasso easy using ufw12:26
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Guest42341strange bug... if i keep print screen pressed for 4-5 seconds it locks my pc ;/12:27
mescreal question12:28
k1lGuest42341: because it will make thousands of screenshots and hangs then12:28
mescif you're using the 'live demo' prior to an install12:28
mescand you select a drive other than your nomrally primary drive12:29
Guest42341k1l, yep.. but it shouldn't be allowed to do this :>12:29
mescdoes it overwrite that one instead, or does it automatically go to the first available sata drive12:29
auronandacemesc: it goes wherever you told it to12:29
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mescI had important data on my two "slave" drives, but that's kind of not even a term any more12:31
mescsince you don't have to fit the pins anymore12:32
nils_mesc, very nostalgic12:33
mesci'm mostly just angry at myself if I just accidentally started partitioning the wrong drive12:33
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auronandacemesc: you need to know the layout of your drives and partitions before you start any installation12:35
ioriathey are absolutely identical ?12:35
mescif you view a drive12:37
mescin preview mode12:37
auronandacemesc: try to keep your sentences on one line please12:37
trudatI have a problem getting file sharing to work between a windows 7 laptop and an ubuntu box. I had a folder shared and working but now it has just stopped for no apparent reason.12:38
mescok, sorryI'm not used to this server or channel12:38
danslohey everyone... I have an application that makes use of ALSA, while running the standard ubuntu/pulseaudio setup... this application always seems to "take control", meaning to say that if I run it first, no other applications will play audio and vice versa. I thought pulse was able to mix ALSA connections? what am I missing here?12:39
ioriatrudat, you can use nautilus with sftp12:39
mescif you boot from disk, go into 'preview mode' idk what else to call it, select a drive other than your normal boot drive from the side bar, via the side bar, then try to install, does that overwrite the drive that was selected or the rational drive in the sata list12:40
auronandacemesc: your drives are always listed in the same order, it doesn't matter whether you mount whatever drive or partition during the live session12:41
* sebsebseb hasn't been here for ages hi12:41
ioriatrudat, you have to install openssh on win , although12:42
mescauronandace, I'm aware of that, but it appeared that files from a separate drive than what I selected were being erased during install12:42
trudatThe windows machine is connected to a domain on a wireless network that is not under my control. I am sharing this internet connection via the laptop's ethernet connection to the ubuntu machine. I'm using synergy and the internet connection is passed through just fine. The ubuntu box is not part of the domain though. I don't want to use sftp because the laptop user is not me, it's my wife and up until today samba has worked fine12:43
auronandacemesc: the installer won't erase anything unless you told it to (such as selecting a partition to be formatted)12:43
trudatthe ubuntu box is running xbmc and is pretty much being used as an appliance12:43
auronandacemesc: check out your current layout: sudo parted -l12:44
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rsmarshallHi, I have vsftpd installed but it seems not to work unless I enter vsftp in the command line to start it up12:48
ioriarsmarshall, vsftp runs as a service ... ps -A | grep vsftp ?12:50
rsmarshallioria nothing12:50
plytrosudo service vsftp start?12:50
rsmarshallplytro that starts up but then isn't running12:50
rsmarshallit's dying somehow right away12:50
fedorenchikjoin #ltp12:51
fedorenchiksorry, ignore12:52
ioriarsmarshall, is vsftp(d)   sudo sudo service vsftpd restart   8or start)12:52
mescauronandace, it appears my files are in tact, if I might ask another question before I actually try to install again12:52
rsmarshallioria thanks, that's waht i did, but it seems to die right away12:52
plytrohave you looked at any logs?12:53
rsmarshallcan't see anything in syslog or vsftpd log12:53
ioriarsmarshall, cat /etc/issue ?12:53
mescI am coming from a win 7 install that became flawed, three logical drives that should appear on the install list, which will appear as the original install drive12:53
mescthat's what I want to write over12:53
rsmarshallioria Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l12:53
ioriarsmarshall, try to purge and reinstall it ...  do you have other ftp server installed ?12:54
rsmarshallioria Ok, will do. Running it with an ansible role at the moment12:55
Pwnnahow do people investigate hard freezes? (no response to keyboard/input, audio loops, nothing in syslog, however, my clock in my tray is still ticking..)12:56
zzarrhello! when Ubuntu desktop and phone moves to snappy, will the desktop receive OTA-like updates?12:58
cfhowlettzzarr, no12:59
Ben64Pwnna: doesn't sound that hard, first thing i'd do is see if you could log in via ssh, you'd need another computer and you'd need to install openssh-server12:59
PwnnaBen64: no response to pings12:59
zzarrcfhowlett, will it remain the same as today?12:59
PwnnaBen64: i rebooted the system already, but then this has froze once per day for the last couple of days12:59
Ben64Pwnna: doing what13:00
OnceMeI cannot see the screen when I plugin DVI into my amd radeon r7 200 GPU13:00
Ben64what are you doing when it freezes13:00
OnceMeon integrated card, it works fine.13:00
PwnnaBen64: different everytime.. chatting on IRC, browsing the internet, etc13:00
cfhowlettzzarr, how do you imagine you could get OTA on your desktop?13:00
Ben64Pwnna: can you do ctrl+alt+f1 to get to console, or use the magic sysrq keys ?13:01
DidactI think I installed the lightweight desktop environment, but can't recall it's name, how can I tell which one I'm using?13:01
PwnnaBen64: nope. in fact, the caps lock lights doesn't even change when i tap the keyboard13:01
hateballOnceMe: So you probably need the restricted driver for your ATI card13:01
Ben64Pwnna: did you actually try the sysrq13:02
OnceMeI found this one http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+6413:02
plytroDidact: xfce, lxde, ???13:02
OnceMeand downloaded 1st from the list13:02
PwnnaBen64: i'll try that next time13:02
Pwnnaif there is13:02
OnceMe"AMD Catalyst™ 15.9 Proprietary Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 Video Driver for Graphics Accelerators" is that what I need?13:02
OnceMebecause there are many AMD Catalyst drivers..13:02
Ben64Pwnna: its much lower level than caps lock13:02
DidactI think lxde, how do I tell ?13:02
zzarrcfhowlett, something like Mac OS X, downloading a file to a new partition or image file and an installation outside the system13:02
Pwnnaif that works what could be a potential cause? anything else i can enable to get more logs of whatever is causing it?13:02
plytroDidact: you could do apt-cache policy lxde13:03
plytroif that is the package name13:03
cfhowlettzzarr, ah!  so not actually OTA.13:03
plytrohowever if there is a "start" menu like place there is probably an About option13:03
plytroor if you go back to the login page you should be able to select your window manager from some place13:03
plytroand icon or something13:03
cfhowlettzzarr, I seem to recall reading something like you described.  best wait until if/when snappy arrives13:03
Ben64Pwnna: could be anything, also try doing a memtest13:04
zzarrcfhowlett, okey, thanks for your reply13:04
DidactI see Lubuntu Software CEnter, think that indcates I have lxdea?13:04
Iresfi have files of windows 8.1 in ubuntu and i created an iso file from them but i can not use iso created in virtualbox13:04
Ben64OnceMe: don't install from amd website, use the ubuntu software center13:05
zzarrcfhowlett, OTA was the closest description of the experience when upgrading I think ;)13:05
OnceMeok and what to write/find in ubuntu software center? My GPU is amd radeon r7 20013:05
cfhowlettzzarr, no worries, amigo.13:05
hateballOnceMe: Just hilighting me with a question mark will not achieve much other than annoy me13:05
zzarrcfhowlett, :)13:05
Ben64OnceMe: edit -> software sources -> additional drivers13:06
Iresfi have files of windows 8.1 in ubuntu and i created an iso file from them but i can not use iso created in virtualbox13:06
zzarrwill I be able to upgrade to 15.10 with the update-manager now?13:06
Ben64Iresf: ask about windows issues in ##windows13:07
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OnceMeBen64:this device is using the recommended driver.13:07
plytroirsesf you can't make a bootable iso from just a collection of windows 8 files13:07
Ben64OnceMe: sounds like you're done then13:07
Picizzarr: not now, but today.13:07
PwnnaBen64: the weird thing is that the clock is still ticking (i have a clock by the second, so i see the changes)...13:07
Ben64Pwnna: yeah thats strange13:07
zzarrPici, any idea when? (how many hour from now)13:07
Pwnnait disconnects from the network as one time i saw facebook's disconnected message.13:08
OnceMecool thanks! :D13:08
Pwnnaand it kept count down to the next time it wants to reconnect.13:08
Picizzarr: unsure, it looks like the devs are working on some final testing.13:08
Pwnnabut the system was entirely non-responsive.13:08
plytroIresf: https://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/linux/13:08
plytrodepending on your needs you could just download one of those13:08
zzarrPici, okey, I'm exited :)13:08
sebsebsebwell this should be a basic one to sort out.  got a new 15.04 install I want to install Skype.  sudo apt-get install skype nope coudn't find it. hmm13:09
sebsebsebdo I need to enable some repo first?13:09
cfhowlettsebsebseb, yep.13:09
sebsebsebor something13:09
* sebsebseb hasn't used Ubuntu for quite a while on a computer, untilll recently13:10
sebsebsebcfhowlett: where how?13:10
zzarrI heard that kernel 4.2 can be updated without rebooting the computer, does that mean that reboots generally are a thing of the past?13:10
ubottuCanonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »13:10
k1l_sebsebseb: ^13:10
sebsebsebzzarr: for distros that support that and specially the feature sure I guess so, but not yet,  except for some servers who  I have read already do that kind of thing13:11
zzarrsebsebseb, okey, thank you :)13:11
sebsebsebzzarr: so yes expect to keep on re booting Ubuntu for now after kernel updates (and most other distros to)13:12
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zzarrhow's the general performance of Wily compared to Vivid?13:13
sebsebsebzzarr: do you hae an Ubuntu install at the moment, if so which version?13:13
cfhowletterrrrrrrrr, as it was only just released, why don't you install, test and tell us?13:13
sebsebsebI think 15.10 still isn't out offically, but very soon13:14
* sebsebseb knows it's mainly just later packages as the differences between 15.04 and 15.1013:14
zzarrsebsebseb, yes, I have been running Ubuntu as my primary OS for 9+ years :D13:15
zzarrsebsebseb, I have Vivid :)13:15
rodoviarioHola... está cerrado puente los ruices, por eso está trancado el este de la ciudad13:15
cfhowlett!es | rodoviario13:15
ubotturodoviario: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:15
sebsebsebzzarr: you can upgrade to 15.10, but I don't think you'll notice that much difference if any as such really over 15.0413:15
k1l_with 15.04 you need to upgrade in the next 3 months anyway13:16
sebsebsebto be supported13:16
sebsebsebby updates13:17
k1l_sebsebseb: if you want a systems that gets security patches. yes.  if you dont want to upgrade every 6 months then stay on LTS13:17
zzarrsebsebseb, I will upgrade as soon as it's possible ;)13:17
sebsebsebmay be a bit slow doing that on release day13:18
Gamoder_I usually wait a month or so to upgrade ... then many problems have been fixed13:19
nils_running do-release-upgrade in a loop ;)13:22
zzarrI'm glad I have a nice internet connection (100/100)13:23
rsmarshallany idea how to make vsftpd upload files with the username as user:group?13:24
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tomkmemHi, when using ldap authentication, i have put files ldap in my /etc/nsswitch.conf but it seems to always be querying ldap for users that are local. is this normal behavior ? I am running nslcd -d to see this13:30
mgalalhi everybody13:33
DyzemTrying to auto mount a shared NTFS drive for use across dual-boot Win10/Ubuntu. I modified my fstab file according to a video tutorial on auto-mounting a new drive. On boot, I get the error "Error while mounting, S to skip mounting, M for manual recovery". Here is my fstab: http://pastebin.com/2FLh3pkL13:35
nikolamDyzem, see if you use uuid's in fstab maybe13:37
mgalalI'm using ubuntuserver 14.04 internet connection is wired directly to the router,but when I ping google it works some times and some other times it doesnt13:37
nikolammgalal, see your routing and network administrators, it seems consistent with some routing problem outside of the box13:38
nikolamtry traceroute and see different paths it take13:39
mgalalno I have other laptops wrking on the same network and its stable on the other laptops13:39
nikolamchoosing defaul gateway might help or might not13:39
nikolamstatic ip/dhcp.., same ip. different13:40
nikolammaybe net cad dying, bad cable, port on switch, cable..13:40
nikolamroutingi inside the box..13:40
mgalalright now it says destination hot unreachable, after like 10 seconds I get reply from ping server13:40
nikolamI won't put blame on the ubuntu box first13:41
mgalalI'm sure its a problem with server, I already tried all that stuff about router and cable \13:41
CodeGosuis there any motherboard where i can select link to .iso, from its uefi browser and it will treat it as inserted drive so that i can install OS without the need to write its image to usb13:41
nikolamwe got that and problem was with provider's routoing13:41
mgalalI'm talking to you right now from the same connection\13:42
mgalaland have other laptops working on the same connection13:42
nikolamCodeGosu, high end intel CPus i7 latest, provide that with motherboard, check mobo spec for that (x99 etc)13:42
nikolammgalal, see cables or if they can get same IP13:42
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nikolamCodeGosu, cheap solution is to use virtualization and host os to provide ISO for VM13:43
acezenhow can I mount the partitions in the debian livecd and then install the system?13:45
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sebsebseb  13:50
ActionParsnipnikolam: all i7s are hogh-end, thats what makes them i7s13:50
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chotaz`wdo we get the upgrade via system-update today?13:56
rsmarshallI'm ftp'ing as a user@host where the user has full write permissions to the folder and yet can't upload a file (vsftpd)13:57
marlo_rsmarshall, look at your logs13:57
rsmarshallmarlo_ nothing i can see in vsftpd log or syslog13:58
araguarsmarshall, have you space left on disk?13:59
rsmarshallwrite_enable=YES should be on?14:00
labsycan somebody explain this. why is a "dd if=/dev/zero of=./bigfile bs=1M count=1000" in a folder which is mounted on an nfs share FASTER than the same command on my local disk?14:02
labsy1048576000 bytes (1,0 GB) copied, 9,65856 s, 109 MB/s14:02
labsyon NFS14:02
labsy1048576000 bytes (1,0 GB) copied, 13,5497 s, 77,4 MB/s14:02
labsyon my local disk.14:02
labsyI need a faster disk :/14:02
ducasselabsy: both of those will use the cache, there is a flag for dd to use direct I/O14:07
labsyducasse: I did it once. so no cache involved.14:11
labsyI pretty sure these are real stats. with this disk I have here I am really slower than my 1Gbps LAN.14:11
labsyducasse: but just to satisfy you. I did it with oflag=direct, too. same results. as I said, I did it only once so there can't be cached data.14:15
ducasselabsy: no, i get that :)14:16
cristobalAny one else have no mouse and got low res after upgrading to 15.10 today?14:21
ioriacristobal, have you tried the guest user ?14:22
cristoballet me try14:22
k1l_cristobal: heard that once before today.14:23
cristobalioria, same it have low res and no mouse14:23
huwjrwget -r ftp://user:password@host randomly decides to stop about 5 directories deep - does anyone have any ideas?:/14:23
cristobalthe mouse only shows on login screen not after:314:24
k1l_cristobal: check video driver14:24
ioriacristobal, video driver maybe, what you have ?14:24
marlo_huwjr, try the same thing from/to different machines14:24
huwjrwhat you thinking?14:24
cristobalk1l_, ioria It currently have the opensource video driver i just verify14:25
ioriacristobal, nouveau or intel ?14:26
cristobalioria, fglrx opensource drivers i can try to uninstallthem and reboot :p14:27
ioriacristobal, it's not opensource14:27
ioriacristobal, radeon is opensource14:27
labsy15.10 is out????14:27
Picilabsy: nope!14:27
labsyaah :>14:28
k1l_labsy: see #ubuntu-release-party14:28
daftykinsi can see it's going to be one of those days.14:28
ioriacristobal, sudo lshw -c video14:28
k1l_cristobal: how did you install the fglrx on 15.04? load from the amd site?14:28
cristobali did ppa but purge it before installation of 15.10 i am removing the fglrx now14:29
ioriacristobal, very good :þ14:29
ioriacristobal, if i were you i'd purge the ppa too14:31
cristobalioria, ok14:32
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ActionParsnipcristobal: 15.10 isnt supported in here yet14:35
cristobalActionParsnip, good help thanks :)14:35
daftykinsi'm thinking that's a distinction we're going to lose on14:35
daftykinscristobal: no smug comments thanks14:35
ActionParsnipcristobal: #ubuntu+1 til it is released (see channel MOTD)14:35
huwjrwget -r ftp://user:password@host randomly decides to stop about 5 directories deep - does anyone have any ideas?:/14:36
ActionParsniphuwjr: why FTP? it's awful14:36
huwjrbecause shared hosting14:36
huwjrany useful information now?14:37
daftykinshuwjr: so use a proper FTP client14:37
MrWhiskersProbably the coolest USA Today....14:37
daftykinsMrWhiskers: off topic, take it elsewhere thanks.14:37
Darkelarioushi, i'm chrooted into my ubuntu 14.04, trying to apt-get --fix-missing, but in order to do so, i need to apt-get update14:38
Darkelarious..but that update doesn't work until i fix-missing :/14:38
ActionParsniphuwjr: is there no scope for SFTP which is enabled when you install openssh-server (?)14:38
daftykinsshow some output in a pastebin, Darkelarious - we can't see from here14:38
daftykinspreferably http://paste.ubuntu.com14:39
huwjrwget -r works great but seems to just randomly fail :p14:39
huwjror not fail - just think it’s done lol14:39
Darkelariousneed a min, it's on another system14:39
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ActionParsnipyeah bwoi14:41
Darkelariouslet's rephrase my problem -- in chroot, my apt-get update doesn't work because it can't resolve any addresses (no ping google.com, failed to fetch ~ )14:42
Darkelariouswhile the host ubuntu 14.04 (live disk) has no problem with that whatsoever14:43
ioriaDarkelarious, are you from live cd ?14:43
ioriaDarkelarious, did you enable networking ?14:43
Darkelariouslaptop -> live usb 14.04 -> chroot14:43
ActionParsnipDarkelarious: can you ping 8.8.8..8 ?14:43
daftykinsDarkelarious: ah i didn't think you'd fall over the obvious stuff, copy the /etc/resolv.conf in from the live session.14:43
Darkelarioustriple-checking now14:43
Darkelariousdaftykins: never really encountered a fubar'd update :)14:44
disposablei'm trying to install 14.04 on hp microserver (n54l). i have a problem with the installer though. as soon as the purple ncurses based interface starts, my usb keyboard stops working. does anybody know a workaround? (it works fine with centos installer and omnios (solaris)) and yes, i have tried a different usb keyboard. same story. i'm installing from a usb2 drive onto a usb3(in usb2 port) drive, in cas14:44
Darkelarioususually i only chroot for fixing grub14:44
daftykinsit's on the chroot guide pages14:44
disposablee that matters. google shows many people with the problem but no solution.14:44
ActionParsnipDarkelarious: can you ping ?    If you can then we can tweak stuff14:44
daftykinsdisposable: replug it? :)14:44
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disposabledaftykins: i've even tried plugging in a different one.14:45
daftykinsdisposable: check the BIOS for any USB legacy control settings14:46
ioriadisposable, check usb legacy in bios, or ps/2 keyboard  ( i know silly)14:46
daftykinsensure latest BIOS too14:46
ActionParsnipdisposable: also use USB2 if you are using USB3, may make a difference14:46
Darkelariousi have nooo idea what just happened.. I was unable to reproduce any errors from before (including the ones from dpkg --configure -a), resolv.conf cp'd, update ran fine14:48
ActionParsnipDarkelarious: so, all ok now?14:48
disposableioria: daftykins: i have changed all of the usb settings in bios, to no avail. i've even tried leaving in just the usb2 drive (with installer) and no other drive, still same result. this is more fo a question to somebody who has actually experienced this bug.14:49
ducassedisposable: this is the server install image, right?14:49
disposableducasse: yes it is14:49
DarkelariousActionParsnip: nope, 3 seconds after pressing enter, i ended up with the original problem  ----> when i run apt-get's fix-missing, i have an unmet dependency for openjdk-7, going to paste now14:49
ActionParsnipdisposable: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?14:50
ActionParsnipDarkelarious: thanks14:50
daftykinsdisposable: is it an up to date BIOS?14:50
disposableActionParsnip: yes, md5sum matches14:50
daftykinsdisposable: and as nice as that is, the likelihood of encountering someone with the same machine is pretty poor :P14:50
ducassedisposable: use a ps/2 keyboard, if you can. I've seen the same thing with the server installer and usb keyboards.14:51
martinr_ok one question when i running apt-get dist-upgrade <package-name> , it do dist-upgrade for all my packages in the system or is it upgrading just only for the package name specified14:52
ActionParsnipmartinr_: it will upgrade the packages on the system based on the package knowledge you have in the system14:52
k1l_martinr_: that doesnt work for one package14:52
baizonmartinr_: syntax is wrong14:52
Darkelariouscontext: a full system upgrade failed, after reboot the network drivers failed, so i thought to chroot from livedisk and install the network drivers again14:53
martinr_then with dist-upgrade isnt possible to run just for one package?14:54
daftykinsmartinr_: you don't dist-upgrade one package at all :P14:54
daftykinsjust run "sudo apt-get install <package>"14:54
k1l_martinr_: there is no sense in not upgrading all packages since you will be missing the important updates then14:54
martinr_daftykins: for one package i can use apt-get upgrade package?14:55
Darkelarioussudo apt-get install <pack>14:55
daftykinsmartinr_: read what i just said.14:55
k1l_but with apt-get install package you can update just one package if you can handle the risks14:55
ActionParsnipdisposable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UpdatingChroot      shows "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)"  is cosmetic and can be ignored14:55
Darkelariousyeah, i caught that14:55
Darkelariousi'm more concerned about the bottom of that paste14:55
ioriaDarkelarious, are you still in chroot ?14:55
martinr_the this command is wrong right? apt-get dist-upgrade docker-engine-cs14:55
ioriaDarkelarious, Can not write log (Is /dev/pts mounted?14:56
Darkelariousioria: what i expect (but not sure) is that apt-get fix-missing can not properly update inside a chrooted environment14:56
Darkelariousright now i settle for fixing the network driver14:56
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Darkelariousso i can fix the rest from inside my normal environment14:57
ioriaDarkelarious, you did't bind pts maybe... but i didn't undertand why are you chrooting ...14:57
Darkelariousbut i can't get dpkg to discard/stop caring about the currently broken packages and only install a proper driver14:57
ActionParsnipDarkelarious: try:    wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage14:57
Darkelariousioria: tl;dr: upgrading packages failed, network driver broken, can't have wireless/wired network in native OS14:58
EriC^^Darkelarious: what's the problem?14:58
Darkelarious404 @ dropbox link14:58
ioriaEriC^^, http://p.blicky.net/4o7fw14:58
disposableducasse: unfortunately, the server does not have a ps2 port. i've just tested it with 15.10 image and same problem.14:58
EriC^^ioria: thanks14:58
Darkelariousdisposable: any chance to run it over ssh?14:58
Darkelariousor don't you get that far?14:58
ioriaEriC^^, he is chrooting from live14:58
disposableDarkelarious: it stops working as soon as ncurses starts14:58
Darkelariousow, and that starts automatically, doesn't it?14:59
EriC^^Darkelarious: which partitions did you mount --bind before chrooting?14:59
Darkelariousdev, proc, sys @ EriC^^14:59
EriC^^Darkelarious: ok, you need to mount --bind /dev/pts and /run too15:00
EriC^^type exit, mount --bind those, then chroot again, and also type mount -a to make sure everything is mounted15:00
Darkelariouspts mountpoint doesn't exit ._.15:01
ducassedisposable: then I guess the easiest path would be to use the desktop installer, and just remove the desktop packages afterwards.15:01
EriC^^did you mount --bind /dev properly?15:01
EriC^^hmm, i'd restart and start fresh15:01
Darkelariousi just chrooted dev/proc/sys without any issues as i did plenty of times15:02
Darkelariousthat's why i don't get it now15:02
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Darkelariousin contrary to previous attempts (and after another apt-get clean) it at least downloads the package again15:04
Darkelariousnvm, same result/erro15:04
EriC^^Darkelarious: mount --bind /dev/pts15:05
EriC^^and /run is needed for apt to work15:05
Darkelariousgoing in for *another* reboot15:06
CaptonjamasonWell, im having a  bit of trouble, i just set up ubuntu 15.04 for a friend and it refuses to connect to a wifi network,15:06
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ActionParsnipCaptonjamason: could connect to a wired connection and upgrade to Wily...15:06
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DarkelariousCaptonjamason: sudo lshw -C network15:06
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Darkelariousalso, bam, netsplit15:07
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studio_hello all15:08
studio_What's up?15:08
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JustMozzyhey guys. I am connecting to a VPN using openvpn, however when I connect to a VM on my machine via ssh, things get extremely slow. any idea how I could tell ssh not to use the VPN connection and directly connect to the machine?15:08
daftykinsJustMozzy: how does the VPN relate? is the VM local?15:09
ActionParsnipJustMozzy: use the route command15:10
daftykinsyou'd have to avoid using it as your default gateway which'd break other things you might expect to 'just work'15:10
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PwnnaBen42: magic sysrq keys didn't work15:11
Pwnnaalso this time the clock stopped ticking15:11
Pwnnanothing relevant in logs..15:12
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Darkelariousa reboot, pts, dev, run, & co later, exactly the same problem still15:17
JustMozzydaftykins: yes, the VM is local. how it relates?  I don't know, the only thing I know is that even typing commands in the terminal while in ssh connection and using vpn takes seconds to arrive, whereas when vpn is inactive, the prompt reacts instantly15:17
Darkelarioussame error as before, same result15:17
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JustMozzyActionParsnip: thanks, I'll look it up15:18
daftykinsJustMozzy: what do you use the VPN for?15:19
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Darkelariousokay, I have one more idea15:22
JustMozzydaftykins: vpn stuff15:22
Darkelarioussince fix-missing indicates that there's a problem with the local OS and my problem was only the internet driver, i just try fix-missing again, this time with the packages already downloaded15:22
daftykinsJustMozzy: ok can't help you then if vagueness is the game15:22
JustMozzyActionParsnip: what would I set as the gateway using the route command? currently the gateway is set to
fabio_Hello guys. im using yad on my bash script to show a information window to the user. the problem is if the window is open, the script doesn't continue the execution of the script.15:23
fabio_any idea?15:23
ActionParsnipJustMozzy: then set the gateway for your system to use for your system using the route command15:23
JustMozzyActionParsnip: So basically my host machine's IP address?15:24
daftykinsthat sounds like a mistake15:25
ActionParsnipJustMozzy: yes, with a netmask of
JustMozzyActionParsnip: thanks, I'll try that one15:25
OerHeksⒽⓐⓟⓟⓨ Ⓡⓔⓛⓔⓐⓢⓔⓓⓐⓨ ①⑤.①⓪15:25
ActionParsnipJustMozzy: the IP of the remote system you want to connect to15:25
Darkelarious0_0, even without chroot i get the same error/problem15:25
daftykinsActionParsnip: it's local15:25
TJ-Darkelarious: what is the problem?15:26
JustMozzyActionParsnip: I think that worked15:27
ioriaDarkelarious, can't you do that  in recovery mode after remount the fs ?15:28
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Darkelariousi think the entire OS is busted15:29
Darkelariousso i'll run a last backup (ssd and hotswap ftw) and try a clean install15:29
Darkelarioussee if that does the job15:29
ioriaDarkelarious, boot in recovery and try to purge icedtea-7-jre-jamvm15:29
Darkelariousno success there, already tried that15:30
daftykinsvia apt, or via dpkg?15:30
Darkelariousty so far, all of you15:31
ioriaDarkelarious, ls /dev/pts ?15:31
Darkelariousi'm no longer in chroot15:32
Darkelariousas said, i'll go for the nuking option :)15:32
ioriaDarkelarious, yes, and what you get ?15:32
ioriaDarkelarious, ah, ok15:32
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JustMozzyActionParsnip: na, didn|15:36
JustMozzyActionParsnip: na, didn't work... the route is directly to the box, but still a mean delay15:36
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auronandaceJustMozzy: you could try mosh as an alternative15:39
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TJ-JustMozzy: so you have [ PC > ( Guest OS ) ] > VPN-to-remote-location > LAN > gateway/router --> ISP -> Internet <- VPN-rend-point < Remote-Host  ?15:43
JustMozzyTJ: eh yupp15:47
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TJ-JustMozzy: so if ( Guest OS ) only has a default route back to PC, then it would suggest the problem is on PC. Can you, from the host PC, do "pastebinit <( ip -4 -6 route show )"15:49
JustMozzyTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12894982/15:50
PanVI want to decrypt my files within 10 minutes. Is it possible? TJ-15:51
ubottuIt's out! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - download at http://ubuntu.com/download/15:53
ObelusWhat is with all the join/quit stuff today :( it's on every channel.15:54
ObelusSpeaking of new releases, I think this marks 2.5 years since I've actually touched Ubuntu for more than a few minutes :/15:55
OerHeksObelus, that is normal for these channels, some irc clients can hide those join/part messages15:55
PanVI want to decrypt my files within 10 minutes. Is it possible? TJ-15:56
daftykinsObelus: this is a support channel only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please15:56
daftykinsPanV: please don't hassle volunteers directly. address the channel first15:56
PanVdaftykins: Sorry, I pressed Tab by accident...15:57
PanVMy fault15:57
PanVhttp://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/ Can I backup this with chroot/sudo with CTRL ALT F1/Recovery Mode?15:57
daftykinsi don't even remember your original issue15:59
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PanVdaftykins: Lost access to /home directory and trying to recover with LiveUSB16:00
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PanVAfter mounting with File manager my Ubuntu partition, ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase was not able to locate the Encrypted directory. What did I do wrong?16:03
somanMy app is installed in /usr/local/myapp... Can myapp create files and folders in system directories without 'root' with just simple user or not?16:07
SCHAAP137woohoo 15.1016:07
madmanwithaboxI'm downloading Ubuntu 15.1016:09
PanVmadmanwithabox: Need any help?16:09
OnceMeI have two GPU DVI inputs on my PC, how to know which one is plugged in right now, without looking inside of MB?16:10
madmanwithaboxAnd, I've been put off because of the amazon thing, but I love the direction in which it's headed (for the most part). So here's my suggestion. I think that in Ubuntu, once a user is created, they should get a option to turn on the Amazon search feature. I completely support Ubuntu's choice in adding that feature, but I don't understand why the user is never prompted or told about that16:12
daftykinsDVI outputs... typically the one closest to the motherboard on a graphics card is the primary16:12
daftykinsbut really it can be card dependant.16:12
daftykinsmy statement is pretty clear.16:13
auronandacemadmanwithabox: we are not the developers and have no creative sway in what ubuntu does, this channel is just for support issues16:14
madmanwithaboxauronandace: Not asking for you all to implement this, just asking for your opinion. I mean, come on :) this is a community, let's have a little fun16:15
auronandace!discuss | madmanwithabox16:15
ubottumadmanwithabox: Want to talk about Ubuntu but don't have a support question. Join #ubuntu-discuss, for other non-support discussion not Ubuntu related you can also join #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you.16:15
madmanwithabox*sigh* fine16:15
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Guy1524hello, I am using ubuntu gnome 15.04, how do I upgrade to ubuntu gnome 15.1016:20
chotaz`wGuy1524, sudo do-release-upgrade ?16:21
Guy1524ok thanks16:21
wileeejust do-release-upgrade you will be asked for password16:21
Guy1524ok, it is upgrading, thanks16:22
PanV"Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-2]" By unencryptfs or something. What is -2?16:24
CoJaBoIs it possible to install the VirtualBox VNC and USB addons in ubuntu? how?16:26
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox16:26
maddawg2wrong channel16:27
daftykinsindeed :P16:27
CoJaBoSo theres no sane way to do it? :/16:27
PanVI am afraid that this -2 are the attempts left. And I am afraid that if -2 is exceed I wont access my files?16:27
daftykinsno it is not, since that's a negative number16:27
daftykinsyou can't have minus two chances16:28
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CoJaBoHardware "encrypted" drive or something?16:28
daftykinssoftware encrypted16:28
PanVdaftykins: ..16:28
PanVI mean -2, -1, then when it comes to 0..16:28
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CoJaBoIf it's software encrypted, you have infinite tries :P16:28
daftykinsCoJaBo: used to be that the ubuntu repos contained some open source version of virtualbox which didn't have support for the above, so you had to get the non-free edition from oracle direct16:28
daftykinswhich had all the USB support etc16:29
daftykinsPanV: i know what you mean, i'm pointing out how wrong you are16:29
CoJaBodaftykins: But matching the version is a PITA, and I have to do it every week or so16:29
daftykinswhy update so often?16:29
uusihey guys, i have a laptop with  intel processor with nvidia card, with an extra monitor plugged in. I just updated to the RC and the screen went blank after the reboot. Doesn't even show up the login screen. Any ideas what might have happened?16:29
PanVdaftykins: But then what does -2 mean?16:29
CoJaBoEvery minor version release breaks it again16:29
daftykinsPanV: i didn't reply because i don't know - look it up16:29
daftykinsPanV: you have a particularly annoying approach toward your use of this channel.16:30
CoJaBoIs there a way to blacklist VirtualBox so apt never upgrades it? Seems like the only option :/16:30
daftykinsnah use apt pinning16:30
daftykinsi don't know how, but i know it's a thing :)16:30
CoJaBoSo first tho, how do I actually get the correct version again? >_>16:30
PanVdaftykins: How am I annoying? I just asked something. Google hasn't got anything on it.16:30
daftykinsbet it does :(16:30
daftykinsPanV: you ask people by name that don't know, that's what.16:31
PanVdaftykins: I didn't ask you by name though. Did I?16:31
daftykins< PanV> daftykins: But then what does -2 mean?16:31
daftykinsCoJaBo: which 'buntu?16:32
CoJaBoKubuntu 14.0416:32
maddawg2i  get the confusion16:32
Ridley5hi all16:32
PiciPanV: its likely an error code.16:32
maddawg2actuallyt in SME linux they had -3 -2 -116:32
maddawg2just the way it was written out16:33
PanVdaftykins: You told that it shouldn't be -216:33
PanVIf it ain't -2 then what is it?16:33
PanVThis is why I referred to you16:33
PanVPici: Ok, thanks.16:33
Ridley5im using Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, my fan speed is always the same, the temp now is 75° my pc is heating16:33
daftykinsPanV: no i told you that you were wrong about assuming it was 'tries left' - for the love of Tux.16:34
tech124214Hi i have a larg number of thin clients using ubuntu ltsp getting stuck at "Begin setting up nbd-client" ... Negotiation" Is there a good refrence for troubeshooting this?16:34
Ridley5i used pwmconfig : "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"16:34
PanVdaftykins: And I replied to you.. because I wasn't sure about that.16:34
daftykinsCoJaBo: what version is showing up as installed right now? "dpkg -l | grep virtual" would be easy16:34
Ridley5how can i set my fan speed to automatic, i mean depending on temp16:34
daftykinsPanV: no i was telling you you were wrong16:34
daftykinsPanV: i'm going to ignore you now as you are very annoying16:35
PanVdaftykins: Thanks, because I simply replied to one of your messages.16:35
daftykins!info virtualbox trusty16:35
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5 (trusty), package size 15203 kB, installed size 59163 kB16:35
daftykinsCoJaBo: got any of the virtualbox-dkms stuff on?16:35
daftykinshmm if it's lacking USB support it's beyond my experience then, i did find an article saying it lives in multiverse these days16:36
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CoJaBoI have to download it from oracle, but oracle doesn't make "-ubuntu" versions. I don't remember how I fixed it the last time16:37
auronandaceCoJaBo: vbox has usb support, for usb2 support you download an extention pack from oracle, as was pointed out earlier16:37
daftykinsCoJaBo: they have a PPA, purge the packages then see - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads16:37
CoJaBoauronandace: Yes, but *how* is the question16:37
auronandaceCoJaBo: you go to the vbox website to download it16:38
CoJaBoauronandace: It doesn't work because the version doesn't match16:38
auronandaceCoJaBo: then you use the version that matches16:39
daftykinsfollow my link and instructions :)16:39
CoJaBoauronandace: And I find that how?16:39
daftykinsthen you can be using v516:39
auronandaceCoJaBo: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/16:41
CoJaBoauronandace: Gives a version mismatch error; "expected 000001 got 000002" or something16:42
daftykinsCoJaBo: just follow what i suggested and not the above16:43
daftykinsdon't grab debs direct, use the PPA!16:43
CoJaBoI've had pretty disasterous results with PPAs before..16:43
auronandacethe extention pack isn't a .deb16:44
OnceMeI edited /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and added prepend for google dns, however /etc/resolv.conf is not re-generated on reboot, did I missed something?16:44
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daftykinsOnceMe: that's not the way to do it at all, edit network manager.16:44
daftykinsedit your interface settings by opening it from the toolbar16:45
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zprochm, upgraded from a fresh 15.04 install and unity tweak tols miss some packages16:45
OnceMeI see Automatic DHCP16:45
OnceMeand additional nameservers16:45
zprocany idea?16:45
OnceMewhere do I edit and remove
daftykinsyou won't remove localhost at all because that is there due to dnsmasq usage with resolvconf16:46
daftykinsalso i believe it's not :)16:46
CoJaBo..it might be faster to just deal with the USB1 speeds :/16:47
daftykinsor network your data *cough*16:47
SCHAAP137USB1... is quite slow16:48
daftykinsOnceMe: change it to Automatic (DHCP) Address only, then enter your preferred DNS servers - save the profile, then select it by clicking once on the network icon then on the network profile16:49
tmwsiyI am running lighttpd on 14.04 and need to get to 1.4.35 but 1.4.33 is all that is in the repo for trusty. Security is on me to upgrade and I would really rather not go to source if possible... Is there a PPA for lighttpd somewhere that I am missing?16:50
CoJaBoSCHAAP137: Yeh, I've noticed :/16:50
daftykinstmwsiy: you'd ahve to look for one, we don't offer nor support PPAs.16:50
tmwsiySeems like the updated one s/b in trusty too going by the severity in openvas16:52
zprocSo... installing Unity Tweak Tool in 15.10 didn't install unity-webapps-common, that's what was missing16:53
ioria!info unity-webapps-common wily16:56
ubottuunity-webapps-common (source: webapps-applications): Unity WebApp integration scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.17+15.10.20150616-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 10 kB, installed size 130 kB16:56
khaxi just installed ubuntu 15.10 and its great :D16:58
sharp_Hey guys, I've been reading the documentation and googling for similar errors and the answer is to use aptitude but I'm trying to understand why.  The problem is that I'm trying to update php5-ldap, but it prevents it due to held packages.  I don't have any listed in dpkg as held.  When I use aptitude, the third choice I get is to upgrade a bunch o16:58
sharp_f packages from a specific repo I'm using.  What places can I check to see why that wouldn't just be automatic?16:58
sharp_By automatic, I mean a part of a dist-upgrade.16:59
daftykinssharp_: yeah run a dist-upgrade17:00
daftykinsthat should sort anything kept back17:00
sharp_daftykins: that's the problem, it doesn't.17:00
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OerHekssharp_, if that repo has newer versions, those are used.17:01
sharp_daftykins: It skips the php5-ldap package17:01
daftykinshmm surely you've pinned it somehow17:01
OerHekssounds like dependencies not matching17:01
sharp_daftykins: however if I use aptitude, I can force these other packages which are also silently skipped to update.17:01
sharp_And then the problem is solved.17:01
sharp_Why are those packages silently skipped though?17:02
daftykinsa pastebin that shows this up might be handy17:02
OerHeksbecause of you specific repo, sharp.17:02
bekkssharp_: Just pastebin the output of "cat /etc/issue; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"17:03
sharp_Here's the pastebin of the "fix" http://pastebin.com/K27UGjHn17:06
ioriawhat is ' {u}  ' ?17:07
sharp_ioria: dunno, never looked.  It's a part of the kernels though so it's probably a part of the AWS image.17:07
sharp_daftykins: http://pastebin.com/K27UGjHn here's that pastebin17:08
daftykinssharp_: yep some nasty PPA, can you share what bekks asked of you? we don't support PPAs.17:09
sharp_daftykins: Because I upgraded it, the results are just going to be 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.17:10
SCHAAP137i just installed kubuntu-desktop just to try something different than MATE/GNOME3/XMonad... i have a question, can KDE be started from lightdm ?17:10
SCHAAP137or do i need to use sddm?17:10
bekksSCHAAP137: KDE starts fine from lightdm.17:10
sharp_daftykins: I'm not looking for support on the ppa, I'm trying to understand why I have to use aptitude to get that update instead of it just being a part of the dist-upgrade17:11
SCHAAP137cool, then i'll just keep lightdm as default DM17:11
SCHAAP137thanks bekks17:11
daftykinssharp_: we want to see the output. is it really going to be so hard for you? :)17:11
bekkssharp_: you dont have to use aptitude at all.17:11
sharp_bekks:I do or it errors.17:11
sharp_bekks:and prevents the dist-upgrade17:11
bekkssharp_: Then you have to fix the errors instead using workarounds.17:11
bekkssharp_: Show us the output requested please.17:11
sharp_bekks: http://pastebin.com/19Xm1snY17:13
sharp_daftykins: http://pastebin.com/19Xm1snY17:13
sharp_Thanks for looking at this by the way.17:14
daftykinsoh and it's an ec2 VM as well17:14
bekksQuite a neat amount of PPA.17:14
sharp_daftykins: How does it being an EC2 vm affect this?17:14
daftykinssharp_: just that you should have said from the beginning17:15
bekksAnd since you already solved the issue, there is no way to show you how to solve it without aptitude, and no way to show you what dist-upgrade would be doing :)17:15
sharp_bekks:  It's just one of 5 that have emerged this way.  There'll be more.17:15
daftykinsi think we're being told it's still an issue17:15
sharp_bekks:  I can find the error.17:15
bekkssharp_: you cant, since you solved it :)17:15
bekkssharp_: there is no error anymore on that box.17:16
daftykinsbut yeah, ancient distro full to the brim of PPAs = blargh.17:16
sharp_bekks: There's at least 20 more that will behave this way.17:16
daftykinsmove to 14.04.17:16
bekkssharp_: Then show us the output of the commands requested from thos boxes.17:16
sharp_bekks:  They're all ansible'd the same way.17:16
sharp_bekks: Gotta find one.  One sec.17:16
sharp_daftykins:  It's on a list of things to do, but it's further out than this fix. :(17:17
daftykinssharp_: good luck with that.17:17
daftykinsbeauty of virt is you can spin up a replacement in seconds, transfer data and be done in short order17:18
newuesrHi. I'm new to Linux, and I have a bit of a problem.17:18
daftykinsask away with detail, newuesr17:18
newuesrI removed the hard drive indicators from the panel on the left side, and I don't know how to get them back17:18
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Guest58241hi evrybody17:19
lexflexcan anyone tell me where i should put my xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap so it is executed on login? i tried ~/.xinitrc but it's not working17:20
SCHAAP137hmm, i seem to get a broken package warning, after installing kubuntu-desktop on my system17:24
SCHAAP137the proposed fix is failing as welel17:24
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade17:26
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: beat me to it17:26
SCHAAP137ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12895756/17:27
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: what is the output of:   apt-cache policy account-plugin-google kde-config-telepathy-accounts17:27
SCHAAP137ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12895761/17:27
ThatRandomPersonGonna try 15.10 this afternoon17:27
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: then there is a package overlap. I suggest you report a bug17:28
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: not hard to work around (for now)17:28
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install17:28
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: but the issue needs flagging up so the overlap can be resolved17:29
SCHAAP137okay, how/where do i report a bug?17:29
SCHAAP137nice, that worked, thanks17:29
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: run:  ubuntu-bug kde-config-telepathy-accounts      and it will start the process for you17:29
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: np, usually this happens when people use PPAs but you are using the official packages17:30
ThatRandomPersonHow's everybody doing?17:32
SCHAAP137how should i describe it? "package overlap in 15.10, account-plugion-google with kde-config-telepathy-accounts" ?17:32
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: sounds good to me17:32
ActionParsnipput your pastebin texts in the bug too17:32
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: highlights the issue perfectly :)17:32
SCHAAP137ah, someone else reported the same thing, 3 hours ago17:33
SCHAAP137trying to install kubuntu-full instead of kubuntu-desktop17:33
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: then you can subscribe to the same bug with "This affects me too"17:33
SCHAAP137yep, I just did, cool.17:33
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: nice, gets stuff fixed17:34
compdocUbuntu 15.10: KVM vs. Xen vs. VirtualBox Virtualization Performance:  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1510-virt&num=517:35
ps10gelAnyone else having trouble with 15.10 booting on c4 instances in EC2? They appear to be kernel panicking or something17:36
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ActionParsnipcompdoc: I love how it says the kernel compile in virtualbox was much slower (5 seconds) hahahaha17:37
SCHAAP137cool, added my pastes as well now ActionParsnip17:39
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: nice17:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1493003 in ktp-accounts-kcm (Ubuntu) "package kde-config-telepathy-accounts (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: försöker skriva över "/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service" som också finns i paketet account-plugin-google 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:39
ActionParsnipSCHAAP137: there will be an update where one package has the file, and the other doesn't. Or neither does and it is put in a different package all-together17:40
SCHAAP137ActionParsnip: cool, that seems like a sensible solution to me17:41
bilb_onohas anyone ever gotten the error message: “Try ‘ap-get -f install’ with no packages’17:43
bilb_onoI am trying to install vim. via sudo apt-get install vim17:43
bilb_onoand its suggestion doesn’t help17:43
TJ-SCHAAP137: I've updated the report correctly17:44
lotuspsychjebilb_ono: wich ubuntu version?17:44
lotuspsychjebilb_ono: have any ppa's installed?17:44
SCHAAP137nice TJ-17:45
bilb_onolotuspsychje idk theres a bunch of stuff installed via dkpg. Someone sent me a thumb drive full of .debs that I installed17:45
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bilb_onoi think thats what messed it up17:45
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ioriabilb_ono, apt-cache policy vim17:46
lotuspsychjebilb_ono: can you pastebin us the error from the vim install17:46
gabriel_i was installing ubuntu server on my laptop and it stopped when it was installing "post-installation mime-support" and it is fronzen in 85% of installation process. Anybody know what can i do? restart?17:47
ps10gelLooks like 15.10 won't boot on an m4 instance either. Works on t2.medium, won't boot on c4.xlarge or m4.xlarge17:48
Rexterbilb_ono: vim-gtk - Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GTK2 GUI17:48
RexterIs this what you are looking for?17:48
bilb_onoumm yeah. well i thought just vim thats what ive always done in the past17:50
bilb_onoill try and get the pastebin17:50
howudodatis there a channel I can ask questions about ubuntu one sso?17:51
daftykinsps10gel: talk to amazon, not really this channel's problem17:51
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sakrecoer_trying to install xubuntu 15.10 on a machine with UEFI. i  have no need for the windows that came along, so i booted  the liveUSB, fine, Now chosing erase the disk and install  ubuntu gives me a strange error, it can't mount the boot  partition....17:52
sakrecoer_manual partition lead me to freeze when applying partition  table.17:53
lotuspsychje!one | howudodat17:54
ubottuhowudodat: The Ubuntu One file and music service is being discontinued. The service will be unavailable starting 1 June 2014, and content available until 31 July, 2014. For more, see #ubuntuone17:54
sakrecoer_check media on first boot prompt gives no error17:54
sakrecoer_what am i missing?17:54
tewardlotuspsychje: i think they're asking about the Single SIgn On system, not the Ubuntu One backup system.17:55
Rexterbilb_ono: maybe vi is what you are looking for17:55
wileee!uefi | sakrecoer_ have you looked at17:55
ubottusakrecoer_ have you looked at: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:55
lotuspsychjeteward: oh my bad17:55
VanfanelSetting TTY console font using dpkg-reconfigure console-setup only works until reboot: the new font isn't kept among reboots. Is this a known problem??17:56
lotuspsychjehowudodat: can this help mate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn17:57
gabriel_the process of installation ubuntu server is frozen, anybody know what can i do?17:58
daftykinsgabriel_: restart it17:58
howudodatubottu: thanks for the info, I am not interested in the file and music, but in order to post bugs, you need a u-one account (at least it seems). and I cant get it to verify my email, even after using 3 different emails, one with a disabled spam filter17:58
ubottuhowudodat: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:58
gabriel_daftykins: i can go to a terminal using cntrl+alt+f2 , nothing to do?17:58
sakrecoer_thanks wileee , while i chose erase disk and install ubuntu, the windows thing got wiped... so i have no means to acces the firmware...17:59
wileeesakrecoer_, Did you actually rewrite the partition table, you used this term?18:00
sakrecoer_wileee: afterwards, i tried that yes..18:00
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daftykinsgabriel_: not really. are you installing 15.10 server?18:01
wileeesakrecoer_, Just a guess here but now it is an issue of being booted in correctly, if you are uefi booted and wipe the table, my guess a reboot is in order to what is appropriate, legacy or uefi.18:01
howudodatgoing here: https://forms.canonical.com/sso-support/ or here: https://forms.canonical.com/lp-login-support/ provides a "form submit" but no way to enter my email or the problem I'm having.  It's either really stupid, or super intelligent and can read my mind :)18:02
tewardhowudodat: if you are having issues with the SSO system, you may wish to refer to https://forms.canonical.com/sso-support/, which will take you to the SSO support page18:02
tewardhowudodat: you select a category from the dropdown then it pops up entry boxes18:02
tewardhowudodat: 'Other' may be the category you want18:02
sakrecoer_wileee: i have rebooted many times... but there is nothing left on the disk.. except a partialy finished partiotion table..18:02
sakrecoer_the liveUSB boots fine tho..18:02
howudodatteward: :) .. well look at that...all this time I've been choosing the most logical choice: logging in, or creating a new account.  that'll teach me18:03
gabriel_daftykins: 14.04LTS i restartet yet, almost i don't lossed my main ubuntu18:03
asad_I just installed ubuntu 15.10. My touchpad doesn't seem to work. Can someone help out, please?18:03
wileeesakrecoer_, So you want a legacy boot in the end? Or we are just where we're at due to no install so far?18:04
sakrecoer_wileee: i'm not sure what to say.. i can't chose anything else then UEFI in bios...18:05
daftykinsgabriel_: don't really follow you there18:05
daftykinsasad_: what make and model computer?18:05
sakrecoer_and once the partition is being made at install i get "partition 1 (sda) in /boot/efi/ could not be mounted18:05
asad_daftykins: It's a dell inspiron 7348.18:05
tewardhowudodat: you'll need a lot of patience though, i bet they get a lot of messages/tickets, so it may take time for them to get to your issue/request18:05
daftykinsasad_: are we talking zero movement - but the buttons click ok?18:06
TJ-sakrecoer_: your symptoms sound like the installer got itself messed up by deleting the existing ESP of the disk, whilst still expecting it to be there18:06
BlueProtoman15.10 came out today, right?18:06
sakrecoer_TJ- yes, the existin ESP got whiped indeed...18:06
devilguyУ кого какой fps в csgo ?18:06
asad_daftykins: Zero movement. The touchscreen works though. The touchpad doesn't...18:06
tewardBlueProtoman: yes, it was released several hours ago, I believe18:06
lotuspsychje!isitoutyet | BlueProtoman18:07
ubottuBlueProtoman: It's out! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - download at http://ubuntu.com/download/18:07
wileeesakrecoer_, Cool, better help here on your issue 'UEFI' than me here now, always really, heh. Someone will help, should not be a huge problem.18:07
daftykinsasad_: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give any clues?18:07
BlueProtomantwelfther, lotuspsychje: Cool.  Now to upgrade.  You recommend wiping my hard drive instead of just updating the packages, right?18:07
sakrecoer_TJ-: should i try recreate the liveUSB?18:07
lotuspsychje!ru | devilguy18:07
ubottudevilguy: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:07
sakrecoer_i greatly appreciate your help wileee , result or not :)18:07
realloc1do you already help with questions about 15.10?18:07
TJ-sakrecoer_: If you start the Installer using "Try Ubuntu" so you have a fully usable desktop, you could try using a terminal to manually get the disk partitioned before starting Ubiquity (the GUI installer application) - that may be enough to sort it out18:08
daftykinsrealloc1: yes as per topic18:08
asad_daftykins: Should I show you the text in that file? I don't understand it.18:08
wileeesakrecoer_, No problem, efficient help is my goal.18:08
sakrecoer_TJ-: tried that already. no success..18:08
sakrecoer_TJ-: same problem in there18:08
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: backups can be handy if you want to..18:08
daftykinsasad_: yeah if you could install pastebinit and run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"18:08
realloc1perfect^^ I've installed it today and I get a total system freeze when visiting any website with wifi18:08
BlueProtomanlotuspsychje: I never would've imagined.  Phew, you just saved me from having to start all of my homework from scratch.18:09
TJ-sakrecoer_: when the installer fails, have you looked at its logs (partman especially) to see what is going wrong. The installer is VERY verbose in logging what it is doing (check under /var/log/ and sub-directories there)18:09
BlueProtomanlotuspsychje: Real-talk; why is it people always recommend reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch instead of just upgrading the packages?18:09
realloc1I'm using the m$ surface pro 2 with the marvell wifi hardware..18:09
asad_daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896069/18:09
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: you can upgarde fine, but fresh installs are always nice18:10
sakrecoer_TJ-: let me try with the "try ubuntu" option again and get back to you, thanks, brb18:10
daftykinsasad_: ok will take a glance, did you upgrade to 15.10 or was this a clean installation?18:10
howudodatis there a wiki / tutorial on best practices for multi-user login scenario?  my wifes computer is shared between her and our daughter.  I've tried setting multi-user.target and using startx on tty1 and tty2.  I have also tried using gdm and just "switching users".  both are causing problems for me.  I was hoping there might be a good and current tutorial so I could 2x cehck my work before posting bug reports or help requests18:10
BlueProtomanlotuspsychje: Why?18:11
asad_daftykins: I was running 14.04 before. I backed up everything and did a clean install.18:11
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: no leftovers from previous install18:11
daftykinsBlueProtoman: nobody who has ever worked in IT truly believes in upgrades :)18:11
lucidguyCan you no longer do-release-upgrade from 10.04 server?18:11
lotuspsychje!eolupgrade | lucidguy18:11
ubottulucidguy: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:11
daftykinslucidguy: you shouldn't be on 10.04 server :) it died earlier this year18:12
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes18:12
BlueProtomanlotuspsychje, daftykins: Okay, so how can I get a list of packages I installed (and PPAs I installed them from), and then reinstall them all en masse when I reinstall?18:12
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: we dont support ppa's sorry18:12
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sakrecoer_TJ-: what should i be looking for in the partman log?18:13
BlueProtomanlotuspsychje: I'm not asking about a PPA-specific question, I just want to know how I can get a list of all the ones I have installed, then re-add them all at once.18:13
daftykinsBlueProtoman: well that'd be a bad idea since packages for Wily might not exist from your PPAs yet.18:13
BlueProtomanThen I guess I'll just wait to upgrade until the semester ends.18:13
BlueProtomanQuestion still stands, though.18:14
lotuspsychje!info aptoncd | BlueProtoman if you wanna clean install 15.1018:14
ubottuBlueProtoman if you wanna clean install 15.10: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.98+bzr117-1.4 (wily), package size 213 kB, installed size 1561 kB18:14
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: only for your official packages, not ppa18:14
daftykinsasad_: this looks worth a go - http://askubuntu.com/questions/623598/dell-inspiron-7347-inactive-cursor-with-my-touchpad-on-ubuntu-14-0418:14
BlueProtomanlotuspsychje: I don't need to create a full CD, I'd be happy with just a list of all the packages I've actually installed18:15
BlueProtoman(and then feeding that list into apt-get some time in mid-December)'18:15
lotuspsychjeBlueProtoman: thats what aptoncd do..18:15
TJ-sakrecoer_: In that or the syslog; any sign of it stuck in a loop, or no longer advancing the timestamps (indicating it has blocked waiting for something). Also check the kern.log in case there's a hardware issue18:16
howudodatBlueProtoman: check out the first reply here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages18:17
sakrecoer_TJ-: FAT-fs (sda1) can't find valid fat system18:17
sakrecoer_TJ-: last entry of kern.log18:18
sakrecoer_TJ-: syslog says wrong fs type, bad optio, bad superblock on /dev/sda118:19
TJ-sakrecoer_: OK, that sounds like it may be referring to the EFI System Partition (ESP). in a terminal do "sudo blkid /dev/sda1" see what it thinks18:19
daftykinsBlueProtoman: tonnes of results online for how to generate a package list, usually involves dpkg --get-selections > ~/file18:20
daftykinsBlueProtoman: i still think that is a mistake though, PPA use will make your task a mess :)18:20
BlueProtomandaftykins: How so?18:20
sakrecoer_TJ-: Label="recovery" UUID="*lots of numbers*" TYPE="ntfs" PARTBALE="EFI System PArtition" PARTUUID="*lots of numers*"18:21
TJ-BlueProtoman: 'debfoster' will generate the list of top-level packages, ensuring the auto-install/remove dependency graph is maintained, too18:21
goddardwhat is a good PDF editor18:21
fx159hello, is there anything I can do to debug reboot problems? my server gets stuck after displaying "all processes ended after 2 seconds", I'm using 14.04.318:21
lotuspsychjegoddard: inkscape perhaps?18:21
TJ-sakrecoer_: That's VERY interesting; If sda1 is NTFS AND is really the EFI SP, it ought to be a FAT file-system18:21
sakrecoer_TJ-: yeah, its so strange...18:22
TJ-sakrecoer_: in case there are other partitions recognised try "sudo blkid /dev/sda*"18:22
lotuspsychjefx159: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys know?18:22
sakrecoer_TJ-: last time i tried, while the disk was reformated, it said it found a another system that might require bios and that continuing would make it difficult to boot into something requiring bios18:23
fx159lotuspsychje: will try...18:23
asad_daftykins: I don't know what that did, but it's working now... :D18:23
TJ-sakrecoer_: also, check with "sudo file -s /dev/sda1" ... I'd expect something similar to mine: "/dev/sda2: DOS/MBR boot sector, code offset 0x3c+2, OEM-ID "mkfs.fat", sectors/cluster 4, root entries 512, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/FAT 256, sectors/track 63, heads 255, hidden sectors 16418, sectors 262144 (volumes > 32 MB) , serial number 0x1192744d, label: "BOOT.ESP   ", FAT (16 bit)"18:23
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daftykinsasad_: :) basically changed driver, cool, glad it worked :)18:24
lotuspsychje!cookie | daftykins nice 15.10 solving!18:25
ubottudaftykins nice 15.10 solving!: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!18:25
sakrecoer_TJ-: sudo file -s gives me lots of things but ntfs in "TYPE="18:25
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sakrecoer_TJ-:  sorry. no, that was blkid18:26
TJ-sakrecoer_: Right, so it is definitely NTFS, not just a wrong marker. What make/model PC is it? It seems it has NTFS support built-in to the firmware18:26
MattiasUpgraded to 15.04, had issues with graphics, removed all graphics drivers and installed the latest nvidia. Now, when I start ubuntu normally I don't even get to console, blank screen and monitor goes offline. Only works if I start in recovery mode for some reason. Which would suggest the drivers are installed, since I get full resolution in recovery.18:26
MattiasHow can I get normal mode to work? -.-18:26
sakrecoer_Packard Bell18:26
sakrecoer_TJ-: Packard Bell18:27
sakrecoer_TJ-: EasyNote TE18:27
lotuspsychjeMattias: wich grafix card chipset and driver loaded?18:28
SuperLaglove so much that I did an update, and now my Ubuntu system won't even boot... even into rescue mode.18:29
SuperLagIt's hung at "Loading initial ramdisk ..."18:29
TJ-sakrecoer_: OK, so if you're happy for all of Windows to be blown away; reformat that partition as FAT with "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1"18:29
SuperLagUbuntu 14.04.3 LTS, btw18:30
Mattiaslotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896197/18:30
wileeeSuperLag, less drama more facts please for the channel.18:30
lotuspsychjeMattias: thats an optimus card?18:30
Mattiaslotuspsychje: No, this is not the mobile version. I've had this card working fine before upgrading to 15.0418:31
sakrecoer_TJ-: done, bye bye windows, thanks for nothing :) now?18:31
Mattiaslotuspsychje: This is the real desktop one, powerful one :P18:31
TJ-sakrecoer_: in *theory* re-running the installer should mean it is happy with the boot partition now18:32
sakrecoer_ok i will try now :)18:32
Bashing-omMattias: Nvidia recommends the 352 version driver for that card . What driver is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?18:35
sakrecoer_TJ-: no complain about disk mounting so far!!! <3 YES18:35
MattiasBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896237/  interesting, I thought I removed the old ones, why are they showing up there -.-18:35
MattiasBashing-om: and 352 is not showing up...18:36
MattiasI installed it manually.18:36
Mattias(which is why I now get full resolution in recovery as well.)18:36
Bashing-omMattias: look'n .18:36
sakrecoer_TJ-: you roc!!!! i'm sendin you mag goodvibes!18:36
sakrecoer_TJ-: THANKS a million!!!!18:37
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MattiasBashing-om: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* <-- no matches found -.-18:38
Bashing-ommat status 'rc' is removed but config files remain . presently there is no driver installed . In recovery mode the graphics are driven by the kernel's driver .18:38
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ubuntu-matehow can I help18:39
MattiasBashing-om: Interesting... I'll run the 352 install again18:39
nbusroneHi , I would like to know what's the different between compression format ? I read at wiki but with vary of info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archive_formats.Any full guide on ubuntu ?18:39
Bashing-omMattias: A "manual" install from OEM ? Is there a UN-install script ?18:39
lotuspsychjeubuntu-mate: you want to help, or get help?18:39
Guest93296is very good and nice ubuntu i love ubuntu18:40
MattiasBashing-om: downloaded from nvidia. simple shell script (.run file)18:40
ubuntu-mateis ubuntu better than windows for software development_18:40
MattiasBashing-om: in Console now, running it again18:41
nbusronePurpose is to compress photo and files and even it get damage ,  i still can retrieve part of the file compression.Sometimes , .7z took too long to open a simple 1mb photo extracting them while .zip takes open instantly .What are those different on ar.gz, .tgz, .tar.Z, .tar.bz2, .tbz2, .tar.lzma, .tlz ????18:41
MattiasBashing-om: Just got to love terminal multiplexers :)18:41
MattiasBashing-om: It says "drivers already installed on system"18:41
Bashing-omMattias: Maybe ' sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-VERSION-pkg1.run --uninstall ' ??18:41
MattiasBashing-om: and it detects 352.5518:41
MattiasOk, I'll uninstall first18:42
ubuntu-mateI am running ubuntu from virtualbox but I am thinking of changing to native Ubuntu18:42
MattiasBashing-om: Do you recommend a ppa over the original drivers from nvidia?18:43
BlueProtomanubuntu-mate: Everyone in this channel will say yes.  I am no exception.18:43
MattiasBashing-om: uninstall was completed successfully18:43
BlueProtomanubuntu-mate: Barring anything designed by Microsoft (C#, VB, F#) or Apple (Objective C, Swift), that is.  There is support for some of that, but not as much as, say, for Ruby or C++ or Python.18:44
ubuntu-matethanks - you made up my mind. Windows is just too slow and insecure.18:44
BlueProtomanubuntu-mate: Welcome to the rabbit hole, hombre.18:45
Bashing-omMattias: The 1st recomendation will always be from our repository . Then PPA, if al else fails do the OEM thing  as a means of last resort .18:45
Mattiasubuntu-mate: dual-boot is fine, using 100% ubuntu at work and 50% at home. Mostly due to some games still not running under linux18:45
BlueProtomanubuntu-mate: What Mattias said.  Also, some software like Unity 3D.18:45
MattiasBashing-om: installed the driver again after uninstall. Going to reboot and try :)18:46
rudolf_I just installed windows 8 over ubuntu and I have got the dual boot menu using EasyBCD but it does not seem good enough. The dual boot menu is from windows and windows boots completely before giving me the option to select OS.18:46
rudolf_How do I get back to my default grub without booting into windows?18:47
EriC^^rudolf_: boot into ubuntu, type sudo grub-install18:47
EriC^^and sudo update-grub18:47
ubuntu-matethe problem with windows is that all the needed security software is slowing it down *I am using Avast Internet security and MalwareBytes Anti-Malware18:49
rudolf_All right...thanks EriC^^18:49
MattiasThat did not work, in recovery now again18:50
ubuntu-matealso Micosoft is doing a lot of unwanted logging in the background18:50
EriC^^rudolf_: no problem18:50
ubuntu-mateI think it is best to install ubuntu as dualboot18:50
ricky-i have what i think is going to be a silly question. running a shell i'm trying to tar -zxvf a tar.gz file and it's not extracting but printing contents. i chmod the file and made it executable18:51
daftykinsricky-: archives do not need chmox +x, you do however need permissions where it's attempting to extract to18:52
daftykinsricky-: perhaps it's just extracting to a folder you aren't noticing?18:52
Bashing-omMattias: ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .. see what we can do .18:52
ubuntu-mateI love this chat18:53
ricky-it's on a shell server with no other files/folders. i'll remove chmod+x real quick and try again18:53
MattiasBashing-om: had a similar problem at work after upgrading to 15.04 (wrong resolution, reinstall drivers to fix) but that worked fine there... it's not the same gfx card though, 750 Ti at work I believe.18:53
MattiasBashing-om: So far it found the 352.55 installer. It's still running though.18:54
rudolf_EriC^^: "sudo grub-install" says "device not specified"18:54
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EriC^^rudolf_: that's odd, if you're using uefi it shouldn't say that18:55
EriC^^type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi18:55
rudolf_"ls: cannot access /sys/firmware/efi: No such file or directory"18:56
EriC^^rudolf_: ok, so ubuntu is installed in legacy mode18:56
MattiasBashing-om: Will probably take a while, several TB's of data to scan through :)18:56
EriC^^rudolf_: how did you install win8? type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999918:56
rudolf_EriC^^: http://termbin.com/rrrj18:57
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EriC^^rudolf_: ok, type sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda19:00
EriC^^then sudo update-grub19:00
MattiasBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896381/19:01
rudolf_EriC^^: What is this flexnet? The command did not give an error but it said that sector 32 is being used by a program "flexnet"19:02
EriC^^rudolf_: oh, that's a program that's made so nobody can overwrite the bootloader19:03
daftykinsMattias: yeah you really shouldn't be using the manual download to install nvidia drivers.19:03
EriC^^rudolf_: you have to nuke it with dd19:03
EriC^^rudolf_: it might still work without nuking though, try rebooting19:03
rudolf_ok..lemme try19:03
Mattiasdaftykins: Well, worked fine at work. Apparently not at home -.-19:04
Mattiasdaftykins: I did try the default ubuntu package first though, same problem there. No console or anything after grub, screen just goes off. Recovery always works.19:05
daftykinsMattias: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*19:05
Mattiasdaftykins: no packages found with that19:05
daftykinsMattias: is that installer still running, or?19:05
daftykinsMattias: run it, i saw your command output and there *are* some configs left.19:05
Mattiasdaftykins: installer finished successfully.19:05
Bashing-omMattias: IF it were me . I would run the nvidia script as "uninstall" ..purge nvidia*, remove ALL the old driver config files, and use  'autoinstaller' then to install the recommended driver from our repository .19:05
daftykins^ :)19:05
ioriaif you install with .run , i remember an --unistall  flag19:05
Mattiasioria: yeah, I ran that a moment to reinstall.19:06
* Mattias switches to console now19:06
Bashing-omMattias: ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' . The state is rc, the package is removed, but the config files are not removed ,19:07
MattiasOk so, about this autoinstaller. Where do I find it?19:07
Mattiasah ok19:07
Mattiasmeh, going back into GUI. can't copy paste that command now :P19:07
rudolf__EriC^^: Thanks a lot...it works now :)19:07
EriC^^rudolf__: great, no problem :)19:07
Bashing-omMattias: You have it installed by default . when you get to this point to reinstall .. ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' :) .19:09
MattiasBashing-om: excellent piping skills btw ;)19:09
MattiasSaved it into a script19:09
Bashing-omMattias: Well ,, nawww .. I just been araound a bit .19:10
MattiasI have some excellent piping commands as well, just so slow to create them :) luckily you can make scripts to save the good ones in19:11
MattiasI believe destroy all software screencast has videos on creating nice commands :)19:11
circleMattias: you are an amoeba19:12
Mattiascircle: Oh, you play Eclipse as well?19:12
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circleMattias: yes19:12
Bashing-omMattias: 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak ' I have seen cases where that file does not get over-ridden in the new driver install .19:13
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MattiasBashing-om: seems I have no xorg.conf right now, just xorg.conf.* with various names19:13
daftykinsMattias: nobody has a xorg.conf anymore. not needed.19:14
Mattiasautoinstalling now19:14
Bashing-omMattias: Well ! in the new install, if it is not created, we make up one (default) . With the proprietary driver, that file is required .19:14
Mattiasit's install 346 -.-19:14
genii!xorgconf | daftykins19:15
ubottudaftykins: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. See `man xorg.conf` for file structure and syntax. | Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf | ATI proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd | Nvidia proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia19:15
Bashing-omMattias: We take the system's recomendation .19:15
daftykinsgenii: ;)19:15
MattiasI'm fine with that, I went with ubuntu to be rid of hassles. I remember the good old days in gentoo. Arch made that a little bit better though19:15
ioriagentoo is a nightmare19:16
Mattiasioria: Well, it worked fine for me19:16
MattiasCompiling might just take time19:16
daftykinsMattias: try and keep it to support :) you can chat over in #ubuntu-offtopic19:16
ioriaMattias, i'm very happy for you ...19:16
MattiasGreat, time for a reboot to see if this helps :)19:17
Bashing-omMattias: I came from slackware to 'buntu, I will take 'buntu any day !19:17
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parityDriveI'm trying to dual boot Win10 and Ubuntu.19:18
odthi. 15.10. no sound via intel sunrise point HD audio (skylake)19:18
parityDrivein the installer its showing Win10 (efi)19:18
daftykinsparityDrive: and? do you have a question/problem?19:18
odtalsa-daily dkms is only for 15.04 and won't compile on 15.1019:18
parityDriveI've created a /efi, & all the other partitions.19:18
parityDrivebut when I start my PC, I get grub command line...19:18
daftykinsparityDrive: shouldn't need to, if win10 was installed as EFI already it should just make use of them during the installer.19:19
parityDriveThat's my issue.19:19
EriC^^parityDrive: you don't need to, ubuntu can use the win10 one19:19
parityDriveOk why am I getting grub cmdline vs boot menu?19:19
parityDrivei can exit and it boots into windows but that's pretty much it.19:19
MattiasBashing-om: It works now :)19:19
MattiasThanks for the help!19:19
parityDriveI've tried without making /efi previously and got the same thing.19:20
parityDriveI'm installing Ubuntu to sdb (windows is on sda)19:20
parityDriveSo I honestly don't know what to do, I've looked around and can't find anything that helps. :(19:20
EriC^^parityDrive: ok, type ls -l in grub19:21
EriC^^is it grub> or grub rescue> ?19:21
parityDriveHelp me Obi Wan, you are my only help19:21
parityDrivegrub >19:21
parityDrivefml i can't satire right.19:21
EriC^^parityDrive: ok, try ls -l19:22
parityDriveI need to reboot :|19:22
TJ-parityDrive: you get the GRUB command-line if there is no /boot/grub/grub.cfg, which is generated by "update-grub"19:22
parityDriveThat makes sense but what do I do?19:22
parityDriveJust downloaded Boot-Repair19:22
erkan^http://picpaste.com/pics/Schermafdruk-Nieuwe_printer-hqzt9cNM.1445541454.png --> I cannot scroll to down and ALT + F7 doesn't work. can someone help me please?19:22
TJ-parityDrive: boot a Live ISO, chroot-mount the target and run "update-grub" in it19:23
regumhi, can i ask here about Homebank?19:23
TJ-parityDrive: Or, manually boot the system from the GRUB command-line once... run "sudo update-grub", and its fixed19:23
parityDriveso if in the installer i left the boot default (sda), i would chroot-mount sda?19:24
parityDrivesorry kind of nooby still19:24
Bashing-omMattias: :) .. See, use the tools provided .. piece of cake ..'buntu is easy !19:24
parityDriveI tried joining #ubuntu-beginners but it redirected me here.19:24
TJ-parityDrive: not quite. sda is the entire drive. You'd need sdaX (the partition number)19:24
parityDrivesda1 i believe19:24
MattiasBashing-om: As long as I can have my trusty i3 wm I'll be fine in any distro ;)19:26
MattiasNobody could guess I'm running ubuntu with how my system looks like ;)19:26
geniiregum: If it seems to be running properly but you're just unsure about how to use it, probably better to go read the documentation at http://homebank.free.fr/help/index.html19:26
TJ-parityDrive: On an UEFI system the boot process is generally UEFI boot manager > grub core.img (/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi) > ($root)/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod > ($root)/grub/grub.cfg > ($root)/vmlinuz-$VERSION + ($root)/initrd.img-$VERSION > Linux booting19:26
regumgenii, yeah, but I've gone there already19:27
parityDriveso when I get the grub >19:27
parityDriveI've read just to type sudo grub-update19:27
parityDriveand it should work.19:27
EriC^^no, you have to boot first19:28
parityDriveok boot into the OS, open term, run command?19:28
TJ-parityDrive: The EFI System Partition (EFI SP) is usually a FAT file-system, and contains the operating-system boot-loader files (for Windows, Linux, etc.). GRUB will expect to find another file-system (its 'root' file-system) where its modules and grub.cfg files are. That is either part of the Ubuntu/Linux root file-system partition, OR, a separate /boot/ file-sytem containing just the kernel images,19:28
TJ-supporting files, and GRUB.19:28
parityDriveSorry I don't want to have to keep rebooting.19:29
TJ-parityDrive: If you're at the "grub>" command-line you need to *manually* replicate what grub.cfg usually does.19:29
EriC^^parityDrive: type ls -l19:29
TJ-parityDrive: firstly, as you have the command-line the 'normal' module must have started, and it looks for grub.cfg, which infers that file hasn't been created19:29
TJ-parityDrive: therefore, please tell us what "set root" reports19:30
EriC^^and copy what it says next to any ext4 partitions, like (hd0,gpt2) etc19:30
parityDrivealright hold on19:30
parityDrivegood thing I have znc :P19:30
TJ-EriC^^: we'll get that from 'root' since the command-line is active, and that infers ($root)/grub/<ARCH>/normal.mod has loaded19:31
EriC^^you mean you have to reboot every time you want to run a command?19:31
EriC^^hold on, do you have a live usb?19:31
parityDriveMy laptop is a p.o.s19:31
parityDriveYes i have it on a usb.19:31
EriC^^chrooting would be way easier19:31
EriC^^ok, load the live usb and come here19:31
TJ-EriC^^: I diagree; 4 commands and we can boot the actual OS that is missing19:31
parityDrive1 sec, thank you for the help btw.19:31
EriC^^TJ-: he has to reboot every time, like tell you what set root gives, then reboot to get grub again etc.19:34
Zephyr1138I was upgrading to 15.10 and the desktop went black with just a mouse cursor showing. Alt-F1 brings up a terminal I can log into. lsb_release -a shows "Release: 15.10" and "Codename: wily" ps aux | grep dpkg shows an active process. How do I tell when the upgrade is complete?19:34
daftykinsZephyr1138: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will return all 0's19:34
daftykinsZephyr1138: sounds like you've got a graphics driver issue really19:34
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999919:35
EriC^^paste the link here19:35
paritydrive1I'm retarded.19:35
paritydrive1this isn't live.19:35
paritydrive1its the installer iso i used :|19:36
EriC^^what do you mean?19:36
EriC^^not following19:36
TJ-paritydrive1: Yes, the installer is ON the 'live' ISO image19:36
paritydrive1Downloaded, burned to usb keep.19:36
MonkeyDustparitydrive1  or do you mean the server installer?19:36
EriC^^ok, that's what we need19:36
paritydrive1No nvm, I'm being stupid.19:36
paritydrive1and over thinking.19:36
ricky-i sat here and found the problem with your help. thanks ubuntu!19:36
Zephyr1138daftykins, those apt-get responses show "E: Could not get lock ..." type errors. It must still be churning.19:37
EriC^^paritydrive1: oh, not good :/19:38
EriC^^paritydrive1: you have windows installed in uefi mode on one disk, and ubuntu installed in legacy on the other19:38
EriC^^paritydrive1: oh nevermind19:38
EriC^^paritydrive1: what os's disks do you have?19:39
paritydrive1What do you mean?19:39
daftykinsZephyr1138: not if you rebooted19:39
EriC^^paritydrive1: it looks like you have 1 disk that has windows on it, and another that has windows maybe + linux19:39
Zephyr1138daftykins, I just successfully installed a binary nVidia driver via "sudo apt-get install nvidia-304" prior to the 15.10 upgrade.19:39
EriC^^paritydrive1: and a third that has windows on it19:39
Zephyr1138daftykins, I haven't rebooted yet.19:40
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paritydrive1sorry browser died.19:40
ioriaparityDrive, basically you have 3 /boot19:40
paritydrive1i have Windows installed on sda.19:40
EriC^^ok, what about sdb and sdc19:41
paritydrive1ignore sdc  boot is useless.19:41
paritydrive1and I haven't cleaned up my drives atm.19:41
EriC^^ok, and sdb?19:41
paritydrive1sdb is linux /19:41
paritydrive1No idea why its boot...19:41
EriC^^it has a ntfs at the start19:41
paritydrive1oh wait.19:41
paritydrive1sdb boot = the efi partition i made19:42
MattiasAnother problem when trying to install steam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896636/  I've tried to install everything it wants to have, but the final piece doesn't want to install at all19:42
paritydrive1Ya EriC^^ that sdc boot is windows 8.1 which is removed.19:42
EriC^^TJ-: what do you think, should he reinstall using a gpt partition table?19:43
paritydrive1Oh and sdb1 = a partition in Windows (storage drive)19:43
EriC^^paritydrive1: i see, well right now ubuntu is installed in legacy mode19:44
paritydrive1How can you tell?19:44
ioriaparityDrive, Partition Table: msdos19:45
EriC^^paritydrive1: cause it has a msdos partition table not gpt19:45
paritydrive1So I'm assuming that's why i'm just getting grub > instead of a boot menu19:45
EriC^^paritydrive1: maybe, yeah19:45
Zephyr1138daftykins, I'm just going to sit tight and check up on it again in an hour or two.19:45
ioriaparityDrive, can you boot  ubuntu from bios ?19:46
paritydrive1or is it because my actually boot is EFI (thanks to windows).19:46
paritydrive1I get grub >19:46
EriC^^paritydrive1: try sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /mnt19:46
EriC^^then cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 999919:46
jattsynaptic looks like crap in 15.1019:46
lotuspsychje!language | jatt19:47
ubottujatt: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList19:47
ioriajatt, what's wrong ?19:47
Bashing-omMattias: Mind you I do not know ; but, " (= 11.0.2+git20151008+11.0.b1230e3e-0ubuntu0ricotz~vivid ; this may be caused by held packages. " Vivid is EOL, are you fully updated and upgraded ?19:47
EriC^^paritydrive1: well, it's actually installed in uefi mode19:48
paritydrive1I'm getting grub is non-existent and that's what's causing it?19:48
vividvivid is EOL? wow thats such good news for me19:48
MattiasBashing-om: isn't it 15.04?19:49
k1l_vivid: no its not eol yet19:49
vividim pretty sure he's wrong though, eol is set for 1/201619:49
vividand im very much looking forward to that :D19:49
Bashing-omMattias: Excuse me .. you are correct .. EOL in January .19:49
EriC^^paritydrive1: try sudo apt-get install efibootmgr && sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999919:49
Kallb123Hi guys, I installed and used LVM for my partitions, which only made a small /boot partition. Every few months it gets full and causes updates to fail. How can I make it automatically clean kernels out?19:49
LordDiabolusUbuntu.com says Unity8 Preview is in 15.10.  How can you start it?  (Can't find docs anywhere on it)19:49
Seven_Six_Twohow long to torrents stay busy for? I added a few to my vps to help out, but I'm not sure how long the spike usually lasts19:50
paritydrive1EriC^^: http://termbin.com/eg6s19:50
k1l_Mattias: sounds like you use PPAs and they now make trouble19:50
OerHeksSeven_Six_Two, take it over this weekend, or 2 weeks is nice too19:51
paritydrive1there you go EriC^^19:51
Seven_Six_TwoOerHeks, I have finite transfer allotment, and it's going fast, but I'll leave it for as long as I can.19:52
EriC^^paritydrive1: i think i see the problem19:52
EriC^^paritydrive1: it's using the efi partition on the first disk that's shared with windows19:52
paritydrive1I'm a noob?19:52
OerHeksSeven_Six_Two, set your ratio to share :-)19:52
Bashing-omMattias: If you run ' apt-cache policy <package> ' on the 5 dependencies, is a common PPA relected as the culprit ?19:52
EriC^^paritydrive1: lol no19:52
Mattiask1l_: Removed one PPA I had enabled (was only one), will also upgrade to 15.10 from 15.04.19:52
Seven_Six_TwoI'm already at 2.0 ratio after about 5 minutes19:52
bromancan someone please help me?? i cant start the x server! its a fresh 14 install.. my xorg log: http://pastie.org/1050056219:52
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 999919:53
paritydrive1So grub is messed up then?19:53
EriC^^paritydrive1: we can try pointing it to use the efi you created and see if that works19:53
k1l_Mattias: use ppa-purge to remove PPAs to let the PPA packages get removed and made the original ubuntu state again19:53
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, type sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab19:53
EriC^^and replace the UUID=6AE0-E10A  /boot/efi with UUID="2E53-6559" /boot/efi19:54
Mattiask1l_: thanks! I'll do that. this is quite an old install so.19:54
EriC^^paritydrive1: sorry, no quotes after UUID= it's not needed19:54
ganzzahl 19:54
paritydrive1I understood that part EriC^^19:54
Mattiask1l_: ppa-purge, no such command O.o19:55
lotuspsychjeLordDiabolus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/688560/how-do-i-test-unity-8-in-15-1019:55
k1l_Mattias: might need to install it first19:55
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:55
paritydrive1ok done19:55
EriC^^paritydrive1: no19:56
EriC^^paritydrive1: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done19:56
Mattiask1l_: Great, I'll install it after these 1701 new packages :)19:56
EriC^^type the whole line19:56
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/boot/efi19:58
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo chroot /mnt19:58
EriC^^then type ls /boot/efi , is it empty?19:58
paritydrive1bash: /boot/efi: Is a directory19:59
paritydrive1bash: /boot/efi: Is a directory19:59
paritydrive1i'm retarded wow.19:59
EriC^^you typed type by mistake19:59
EriC^^it happens a lot19:59
paritydrive1Recovery  System Volume Information19:59
paritydrive1That's what it shows20:00
EriC^^ok, try grub-install20:00
EriC^^if you want try mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu20:00
EriC^^if you haven't typed grub-install yet20:00
paritydrive1Installing for x86_64-efi platform.20:00
paritydrive1grub-install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition.20:00
paritydrive1Installing for x86_64-efi platform.20:00
paritydrive1grub-install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition.20:00
paritydrive1Sorry about that.20:01
ubuntu023Can i ask my question?20:02
daftykins!paste | paritydrive120:02
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MonkeyDustubuntu023  yes20:02
daftykinsubottu: yes, ask away20:02
ubottudaftykins: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:02
EriC^^paritydrive1: no problem20:02
daftykinsgah tab complete20:02
EriC^^paritydrive1: try mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu20:02
daftykinsubottu: don't worry, i don't!20:02
ubottudaftykins: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:02
paritydrive1i'm using Elementary OS20:02
xyzzy42Why is utopic not in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ ?20:02
paritydrive1so do i still use /ubuntu?20:02
EriC^^paritydrive1: try mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI20:03
MonkeyDustxyzzy42  because utopic stopped breathing20:03
EriC^^paritydrive1: try grub-install again20:03
OerHeksheh, elementary has its own issues20:03
daftykinsparitydrive1: ugh. that is not supported in this channel.20:03
ubuntu023Today when i login to my ubuntu,after 15s it backed to the login page i tried again and again but it loged ou immediately after loged in, i search the net and i found this link:20:03
paritydrive1same thing20:03
daftykinsno it's not.20:03
daftykinsand shame on you for being duped into thinking it is.20:03
EriC^^paritydrive1: i wonder why it thinks it's not an efi partition20:03
paritydrive1no idea bud.20:03
xyzzy42MonkeyDust, channel message says 15.04 still supported.  That not the case?20:03
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 999920:04
daftykinsxyzzy42: it is until January20:04
EriC^^maybe it looks at the partition type?20:04
MonkeyDustxyzzy42  15.04 yes, utopic not20:04
daftykinsxyzzy42: utopic = 14.1020:04
ubuntu023I use ctrl alt f6 and then typed my user name and password and without chaging the directory to home or others, i type this: sudo rm -v .Xauthority20:05
ubuntu023And now still the same problem20:05
EriC^^paritydrive1: i dont know if you can set it with fdisk ( it's made for msdos not gpt partition tables )20:05
EriC^^hold on20:05
ubuntu023Just i can log in to my ubuntu using the guest user20:05
xyzzy42is there a way to get do-release-upgrade to find 15.04 or 15.10?20:05
ubuntu023And do not by my main user,emadhelmi20:05
SpecEriC^^: cool, termbin is neat20:05
ubuntu023What should i do?20:06
MonkeyDustxyzzy42  what is the outcome of   cat /etc/issue20:06
EriC^^paritydrive1: yeah you can, type sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb20:06
EriC^^Spec: yup20:06
TJ-xyzzy42: "man do-release-upgrade" for clues20:06
EriC^^paritydrive1: then go down to the efi partition, press type, then type ef20:06
EriC^^TJ-: does msdos partition tables + uefi work?20:06
TJ-EriC^^: Yes; it's mandated in the UEFI standard20:07
xyzzy42MonkeyDust, "Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l".20:07
EriC^^TJ-: ok, cool20:07
paritydrive1the vFat partition correct?20:07
EriC^^not the first one20:07
MonkeyDustxyzzy42  fresh install is the fastest and easiest way20:07
paritydrive1is the one i changed20:08
crobertsis wine out for 15.10 yet?20:08
EriC^^ok, cool20:08
paritydrive1quit the window?20:08
EriC^^paritydrive1: press write, then type partprobe20:08
paritydrive1no save or anything?20:08
crobertsalso is chrome slow for anyone on 15.04 gnome20:08
paritydrive1partprobe done.20:09
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, try grub-install20:09
paritydrive1nothing shows (assuming it doesn't)20:09
paritydrive1same thing.20:09
paritydrive1I'm going to cry.20:09
xyzzy42could I change my sources.list to point to 15.04 and then apt-get update?20:09
daftykinsxyzzy42: no that's not supported.20:10
MonkeyDustparitydrive1  i havent followed, what was your initial question?20:10
daftykins!eol | xyzzy42 follow the last link here20:10
ubottuxyzzy42 follow the last link here: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:10
paritydrive1I have windows 10 installed (EFI).20:10
EriC^^paritydrive1: try grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub --recheck20:10
paritydrive1Trying to get boot menu working20:10
paritydrive1same thing EriC^^20:11
EriC^^paritydrive1: try ls /boot/efi first, see if you get an EFI dir20:11
paritydrive1shows: EFI Recovery System Volume Information20:11
EriC^^hmm, it created it by itself here so that's not the problem20:13
Kallb123Hi guys, I installed and used LVM for my partitions, which only made a small /boot partition. Every few months it gets full and causes updates to fail. How can I make it automatically clean kernels out?20:13
EriC^^maybe grub doesn't like that it's a msdos partition table20:13
paritydrive1I honestly don't know.20:13
gh16itoIs this the right place to ask about Ubuntu dev / themes?20:13
TJ-EriC^^: "if (!efidir_is_mac && grub_strcmp (fs->name, "fat") != 0) grub_util_error (_("%s doesn't look like an EFI partition"), efidir); "20:13
EriC^^paritydrive1: do you have important data on your sdb1 ?20:13
gh16itoI'm trying to fix a broken Cinnamon applet, and I'm not quite sure what's going wrong.20:14
TJ-EriC^^: EFI-SP is expected to be FAT, not NTFS20:14
EriC^^TJ-: it is fat3220:14
TJ-EriC^^: I thought it was NTFS?20:14
MonkeyDustgh16ito  are you a developer? there's also #ubuntu-app-devel20:14
EriC^^nope that's the first partition that has data20:14
EriC^^5      157GB   157GB  134MB   logical   fat3220:14
gh16itoMonkeyDust: Probably the answer to that is yes, but I've never worked with this sort of thing before.20:14
paritydrive1I do have stuff on it.20:15
paritydrive1All work stuff pretty much.20:15
gh16itoBasically I'm looking to get this working on ubuntu with cinnamon: https://github.com/robin92/cinnamon-power-applet/blob/master/power%40airlog.pisz.pl/applet.js#L3920:15
EriC^^TJ-: there's nothing else that triggers that error line?20:16
raphusubuntu with cinnamon? why not just linux mint?20:16
gh16itoI gather that imports.dbus is deprecated in Mint, and that tracks with the errors I was seeing (http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2014/08/attention-applet-desklet-extension-developers/)20:16
EriC^^TJ-: maybe grub only knows how to get the fs type if it's msdos? :/20:16
gh16itoraphus: My understanding is that Ubuntu has better support for updates and whatnot.20:17
gh16itoPlus bigger community.20:17
EriC^^paritydrive1: if you can back it up, you can convert your partition table type to gpt20:17
EriC^^it's pretty instantaneous20:17
paritydrive1Ya I think I'm going have to.20:17
paritydrive1This is driving me nuts.20:17
TJ-EriC^^: Maybe I missed something but earlier you gave the instruction "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/boot/efi" but the termbin I'm looking at is /dev/sdb20:17
raphus@gh16ito 99% of the workarounds or tutorials for ubuntu work just fine for mint :P20:18
EriC^^i did?20:18
gh16itoYeah, that's been my experience using Mint in a virtualbox, but for the most part Cinnamon on Ubuntu works fine, and I can always fall back to Unity if need be.20:18
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo umount /dev/sda520:18
k1l_raphus: and you know exactly why the users are in here. so if you need any support. dont use mint.20:18
EriC^^paritydrive1: then mount /dev/sdb5 /boot/efi20:18
TJ-EriC^^: There's no problem with the disk label (GPT or MSDOS), the source-code from GRUB I quoted you shows that the errir paritydrive1 sees only happens when there is NOT a Mac file-system, AND the targer file-system is NOT FAT.20:19
paritydrive1umount: /dev/sda5: not mounted20:19
EriC^^paritydrive1: hmm type exit20:19
gh16itoOK, I'm going to try the app-devel chat.20:19
lwellsHi all20:19
EriC^^paritydrive1: then try sudo umount /mnt/boot/efi20:19
xyzzy42daftykins, thanks.  after updating the sources.list, and then editing release-upgrades to normal from never, it looks like it will work20:20
TJ-EriC^^: According to grub-install, it's something else20:20
TJ-EriC^^: sorry, ignore that, I was stuck back in the scrollback buffer!20:21
paritydrive1http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896927/ EriC^^20:21
EriC^^paritydrive1: did you unmount first?20:21
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo umount /mnt/boot/efi20:22
EriC^^you did?20:22
EriC^^ok, type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/boot/efi20:22
paritydrive1that worked.20:22
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt20:22
Mattiask1l_: What was the info again? Lost log after upgrade. On 15.10 now, can't get a list of ppa's and sudo ppa-purger xorg-edgers/ppa doesn't work, it can't find it -.-20:22
EriC^^then grub-install paritydrive120:22
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html20:23
Mattiask1l_: is there a way to list all ppa's?20:23
TJ-EriC^^: I think paritydrive1 is outside the chroot right now?20:23
k1l_Mattias: ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/20:23
GachrrHi everyone.20:24
disky42Hi, my dvb-sremote control is working without lirc; mute and poweroff key are captured by ubuntu. How to AVOID(!) that? The other keys are forwarded to application kodi as expected20:24
EriC^^TJ-: no, what's that error about you think? it doesn't like that it's non-gpt?20:24
EriC^^paritydrive1: try update-grub20:24
GachrrI have massive issues after upgrading to 15.10, even a fresh install with the same /home didn't help. The issue is that when I log on my account, Unity doesn't appear. I figured that it's something in .config folder, however deleting and replacing it didn't give me constant results.20:25
EriC^^paritydrive1: also, try efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999920:25
EriC^^and ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 999920:25
Mattiask1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896948/  ppa-purge just can't remove them -.-20:25
fatogohello all20:25
paritydrive1EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ez0g  & http://termbin.com/m1is20:26
k1l_Mattias: you copy&pasted the wrong command. its ppa-purge not purger20:26
TJ-EriC^^: EFI-SP must be a primary partition20:26
Mattiask1l_: the paste runs ppa-purge20:26
Mattiaseasier with auto complete in terminal20:26
EriC^^oh, it put the files, in it, but didn't create the efibootmgr entry20:26
OerHeksMattias, it is ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa20:27
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EriC^^paritydrive1: try typing exit, then sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999 just to be sure20:27
k1l_sudo ppa-purge  xorg-edgers/ppa20:27
MattiasOerHeks: I get the exact same error running that20:27
Mattiask1l_: and that20:27
EriC^^paritydrive1: you could delete the swap partition and create an efi primary one20:28
Mattiassudo ppa-purge gives me an example as well which also gives the exact same error:  sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers  (which is the one I used)20:28
paritydrive1Will I need to reboot?20:28
paritydrive1do I also need to re-create the swap?20:28
Mattiask1l_: the command seems to be smart enough to know it's always xorg-edgers ppa which is what it can't seem to find...20:28
EriC^^paritydrive1: no, and yeah20:28
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb20:29
k1l_Mattias: before the upgrade they get disabled20:29
Mattiask1l_: well, I've also disabled them all manually in update-manager20:29
paritydrive1sdb2 (delete)20:29
Mattiask1l_: what is ppa-purge supposed to do?20:29
k1l_Mattias: so enable them again to let ppa-purge get the package list20:29
Mattiasah ok, will do20:29
paritydrive1sdb2 = swap EriC^^20:30
Jordan_Uparitydrive1: Make sure that you swapoff first, and make sure that you aren't accidentally deleting the wrong partition.20:30
EriC^^paritydrive1: yeah, and create a small primary efi partition20:30
k1l_Mattias: have to leave now, but others might help here if that still doesnt work20:30
EriC^^size is like 100M when it asks for it ( or whatever you want it to be )20:30
Mattiask1l_: Thanks for the help so far :)20:31
EriC^^yeah when it asks where just press enter20:31
paritydrive1change type to EFI correct?20:31
EriC^^then create a swap partition with the free space20:31
EriC^^type 8220:31
paritydrive1swap should be primary?20:31
paritydrive1just double checking.20:32
nmgkaliJust wondering, how can I use the command line get the headers of a hosts services at different ports (like what shodan uses to get the headers at the ports of the hosts (even on really obscure ones))?20:32
Jordan_Uparitydrive1: You can use either primary or logical partitions for swap.20:32
paritydrive11 sec20:32
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, then sudo partprobe20:32
EriC^^paritydrive1: then type sudo umount /mnt/boot/efi20:33
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 999920:34
Guest68423Are there some files I need to change in my /home directory, in order to reset my sound settings in Linux?20:34
paritydrive1EriC^^: http://termbin.com/j3q120:34
Quatrokingis it possible to make my machine speak words through the terminal, using some text to speech stuff?20:34
Guest68423Quatroking, yes.20:34
paritydrive1Looks like its ok EriC^^20:35
Quatrokinghow'd I go about doing that?20:35
Jordan_UQuatroking: echo "hello, world" | espeak20:36
EriC^^paritydrive1: i think you have to reboot20:36
paritydrive1ok i will brb then.20:36
Guest68423I am looking at apt-cache search speech.  I am trying to find the command that I used to use.20:36
MonkeyDust!info espeak | Quatroking20:36
ubottuQuatroking: espeak (source: espeak): Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.48.04+dfsg-1 (wily), package size 59 kB, installed size 234 kB20:36
MonkeyDustQuatroking  there's also 'saytime'20:37
Guest68423Quatroking, I think it might have been espeak.20:38
paritydrive1ok back20:38
EriC^^paritydrive1: wb20:38
paritydrive1should have made a persistant partition on this USB...20:38
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 999920:38
RubyDZhey guys, can someone guide me on how to use the unrar command? it's a bit confusing for me ....20:38
QuatrokingGuest68423, sorry about that, my internet is crap today20:38
Quatrokinghow'd I go about doing that?20:39
Guest68423Quatoroking, festival might have worked too.20:39
EriC^^paritydrive1: that's odd, the efi isn't there20:39
Guest68423Quatroking, I had to follow an online guide.20:39
EriC^^paritydrive1: try sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb20:39
paritydrive1isn't his it? /dev/sda2: UUID="6AE0-E10A" TYPE="vfat"20:40
paritydrive1that's odd.20:40
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paritydrive1cfdisk has sdb2 as swap20:41
paritydrive1sdb5 Linux swap and sdb6 as vfat20:41
EriC^^paritydrive1: no it should be on sdb20:41
EriC^^paritydrive1: odd, try to delete the swap and create the efi one for now20:41
paritydrive1err ya swap is still above it...20:41
QuatrokingGuest68423, thanks, this festival thing works pretty good20:42
MattiasThere we go, xorg-edgers removed and now steam installs :)20:42
Mattiasno idea why I had xorg-edgers ppa there -.-20:42
paritydrive1ok EriC^^, created EFI, wrote, typed sudo partprobe20:43
paritydrive1No errors20:43
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, try sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 999920:43
Guest68423Quatroking, There was a command that could pass anything in the clipboard to its output.  This worked pretty well with festival or espeak.  I cannot remember what it was right now.20:43
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paritydrive1http://termbin.com/j9lf EriC^^20:43
paritydrive1still showing as swap :|20:44
TaZeR16.04 image out yet?20:44
gordonjcpis there any way to use 15.10 on PCs with Intel graphics?20:44
EriC^^paritydrive1: try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999920:44
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paritydrive1cfdisk is showing sdb2 as swap20:45
EriC^^paritydrive1: try doing it in gparted maybe20:45
EriC^^paritydrive1: now the old efi is gone20:46
paritydrive1ok i'm in gparted20:46
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EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, try deleting the swap and creating a small primary fat3220:46
gordonjcp^ any way to fix that, apart from buying an NVidia card?20:46
paritydrive1or not necessary?20:47
EriC^^paritydrive1: EFI partition20:47
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EriC^^if you want, it's helpful20:47
paritydrive1ok created.20:49
paritydrive1EriC^^: http://termbin.com/t5zy20:49
gordonjcpis there perhaps a better channel to get some help with this video problem?20:50
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EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, looks good20:52
EriC^^paritydrive1: try sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt20:52
EriC^^is that the root filesystem now? try ls /mnt20:53
paritydrive1what do you mean?20:53
Guest68423Quatroking, I think I found the name of the command I was looking for.  It is xclip.20:53
EriC^^is there /boot /etc /root ... in it?20:53
QuatrokingGuest68423, say "word" also works lol20:53
Quatrokingas long as I have gnustep-gui-runtime installed20:54
paritydrive1typing ls shows me: Documents Downloads Music etc.20:54
EriC^^oh, that's your home dir20:54
EriC^^type sudo umount /mnt20:54
EriC^^try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999920:55
EriC^^i dunno, the root fs was before the home dir though20:55
paritydrive1EriC^^: http://termbin.com/9w6020:55
Guest68423Quatroking, I think the command was something like xclip | festival or xclip | espeak, with some options in the command.20:55
paritydrive1pretty sure I made / 18gbs...20:56
EriC^^it says sdb5, i think you have to reboot20:56
jog1daftykins, reinstalled a fresh lubuntu -- chrome browser seems to be working smoothly. just fyi. thanks for help yesterday.20:57
gordonjcpdoes anyone know if it's possible to use Intel graphics without it being all distorted yet?20:58
paritydrive1and back :P20:59
gordonjcpor any suggestions for better places to ask about getting usable graphics?20:59
paritydrive1ya so sdb5 is not root. :|20:59
EriC^^it still isnt?20:59
paritydrive1thank you Elementary installer.20:59
paritydrive1I don't care, I don't have anything on there.21:00
EriC^^try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999921:00
paritydrive1So if I have to re-install it I will.21:00
Rextergordonjcp: The FOSS drivers for Intel are already present in the kernel. What kind of an issue are you having?21:00
EriC^^or sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 999921:00
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gordonjcpRexter: unusably distorted graphics21:00
EriC^^would be better21:00
paritydrive1http://termbin.com/7gvt or http://termbin.com/gvbx21:00
gordonjcpRexter: http://gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/videocorruption.png21:00
gordonjcpRexter: http://gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/morecorruption.png21:01
Rextergordonjcp: give me some background. What are you doing?21:01
gordonjcpRexter: booted any version of Linux21:01
gordonjcpin this case, the 15.10 installer21:01
gordonjcpbut 15.04 is identical21:01
paritydrive1ok even if I mount sdb6 its not root :|21:01
Rextergordonjcp: this is an HP isn't it?21:01
paritydrive1gg Elementary, gg21:01
gordonjcpRexter: ... yes...?21:01
gordonjcpRexter: this sounds like you know something :-)21:02
PwnnaBen42: sorry i missed messages earlier if there was any.. but are there any other ways to debug? This is happening once every couple of hours and is corrupting some files ..21:02
paritydrive1EriC^^: should I just reinstall?21:02
Rextergordonjcp: I've seen that quite a few times, no resolution.21:02
Pwnnaas it is writing some stuff21:02
gordonjcpRexter: but it works perfectly in Haiku21:02
Pwnnai also got some i915 slowpaths in the kernel, not sure if it is related, tho21:02
pbxis it possible to easily control what notification manager is active? i installed i3, and its notification manager took over.  i installed xfce, and it did the same.21:02
EriC^^paritydrive1: no21:03
gordonjcpRexter: problem appears to be the same on every other ICH10 system I've tried21:03
EriC^^paritydrive1: sdb5 is there, and the uuid is the one for the root fs21:03
EriC^^paritydrive1: it's odd, try sudo mount -U a0e7492e-937b-428a-8b44-059b863b9484 /mnt21:03
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Rextergordonjcp: I found that 12.04 doesn't have this issue, but 14.04 and on do, not sure about 12.10, 13.04, and 13.10.21:04
paritydrive1not root, its /home21:04
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gordonjcpRexter: 12.04 had it on older machines, with intel chipsets21:04
gordonjcpRexter: I suspect Intel graphics just aren't supported in Linux, I've never seen them work21:04
EriC^^paritydrive1: are you sure? type ls /mnt21:04
EriC^^paritydrive1: it's pretty puzzling..21:04
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paritydrive1elementary@elementary:~$ /mnt21:04
paritydrive1bash: /mnt: Is a directory21:04
EriC^^paritydrive1: ls /mnt21:04
Rextergordonjcp: I've installed Ubuntu on lots of systems with Intel graphics. It's only those old HPs, and Compaq's21:04
paritydrive1yes, yes it is puzzling.21:05
gordonjcpRexter: like I said, Dell is the same, Acer appears to be the same21:05
paritydrive1I don't know what to do...21:05
gordonjcpRexter: about the only one that doesn't do it that uses an Intel chipset is my macbook21:05
Pwnnaanyone else knows what to do when you're encountering hard freezes on wily that has no log and doesn't respond to even the magic sysrq sequences?21:05
EriC^^paritydrive1: type mount | nc termbin.com 999921:06
Rextergordonjcp: are you having the same issue on the Dell, and Acer?21:06
gordonjcpRexter: exactly the same21:06
gordonjcpRexter: not distro-specific in any way, either21:06
Pwnnathe hard freeze is that the computer stops responding to all inputs (keyboard, usb, network) but the on screen clock is somehow still ticking.21:06
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, try sudo mkdir /mnt221:06
Pwnnathis happens on average twice a day21:07
EriC^^then sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /mnt221:07
Rextergordonjcp: I havn'e see the issue on non hp/compaq machines.21:07
Rextergordonjcp: have you tried a manual installation of the Intel drivers?21:07
paritydrive1EriC^^: i have nothing saved on the install, so if I need to reinstall it I will.21:07
gordonjcpRexter: no, are there specific ones I should look for?21:07
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, type ls /mnt221:08
gabriel_how long time can take the "sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda" command?21:08
paritydrive1show lost+found myname21:08
EriC^^type ls /mnt21:08
gordonjcpgabriel_: depends how big your drive is; quite a long time potentially21:08
Rextergordonjcp: I don't have much experience with it either:21:09
gabriel_500GB moreless gordonjcp21:09
paritydrive1ls /mnt shows bing dev etc etc.21:09
paritydrive1bin* not bing21:09
EriC^^ok, so it's right21:09
EriC^^it's the root fs..21:09
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab21:10
EriC^^replace the UUID= that's before /boot/efi with21:10
EriC^^that's the new efi's uuid21:10
gabriel_gordonjcp: more than 10 hours?21:11
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/boot/efi21:11
gordonjcpgabriel_: possibly21:11
EriC^^paritydrive1: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done21:11
gabriel_more than 1 day?21:11
EriC^^paritydrive1: both commands?21:11
gordonjcpRexter: I can't actually see that site, because it can't be displayed on this machine21:11
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, cool, not yet21:12
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EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo chroot /mnt21:12
gordonjcpRexter: oh well, off to the computer shop to buy a huge box of el-cheapo NVidia cards tomorrow I guess21:12
EriC^^then grub-install21:12
Rextergordonjcp: how many are you doing?21:12
gordonjcpRexter: 50 or so21:12
daftykinsjog1: glad to hear it, no worries21:12
paritydrive1EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897256/21:13
nmgkalihow can I connect to a seagate drive on ubuntu21:13
EriC^^paritydrive1: looks good21:14
EriC^^paritydrive1: try update-grub21:14
bekksnmgkali: Is is some kind of network drive?21:14
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, try efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999921:14
paritydrive1http://termbin.com/akn3 EriC^^21:15
Rextergordonjcp: wow, I have had some limited success with installing 12.04, and then doing a release upgrade. That has worked for me some times, but not always... You can pick up refurbished PCIe cards with shipping for less than $20, but when you times that by 50 or so, it equals a lot.21:15
nmgkalibekks: it is a "seagate personal cloud"21:15
gordonjcpRexter: yeah21:15
EriC^^paritydrive1: looks good21:15
EriC^^type exit and see if it boots21:15
gordonjcpRexter: is it just because intel is crap, or something?  How can they sell such a defective chipset?21:15
paritydrive1I'll brb.21:16
bekksnmgkali: Just follow the manual of that thing then.21:16
nmgkalibekks: it has no documentation for linux, but is does have a samba service.21:17
Rextergordonjcp: I don't think defective is the right term. They work fine on Windows. I think just unsupported.21:17
daftykinsgordonjcp: nothing wrong with intel for the most part, perhaps it's just them and Linux aren't so great at times. what's this system?21:17
daftykinsmost people get by just fine with intel graphics.21:18
bekksnmgkali: But it has a documentation on how to set it up and how to access it.21:18
gordonjcpdaftykins: HP 8000 SFF21:18
Rexterdaftykins: gordonjcp: I agree, Intel is very cooperative with Linux, but that is a retaliative term.21:18
gordonjcpRexter: oh :-/21:18
nmgkalibekks: yeah, but it's not very helpful. I got the samba working though, I'll try that.21:18
daftykinsgordonjcp: latest BIOS/EFI on the thing?21:19
asad_Can someone tell me what I should do with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897305/21:19
gordonjcpdaftykins: good point, I should check21:19
daftykinsasad_: Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.21:19
asad_daftykins: What are these for though?21:19
gordonjcpRexter: is Windows difficult to use?  Maybe it's worth trying that21:19
Rexterdaftykins: asad_: sudo apt-get autoremove21:19
daftykinsthose are packages no longer needed.21:19
asad_daftykins: Yeah I know but what are they for?21:20
daftykinslook them up.21:20
Rextergordonjcp: aren't those machines licenses for XP?21:20
gordonjcpRexter: what distro is it based on?21:20
gordonjcpRexter: XP?21:20
paritydrive1EriC^^: nope.  Still gives me the grub prompt21:20
asad_daftykins: I deleted the amazon app that comes with ubuntu... is this a result of that?21:20
daftykinsdon't know.21:20
EriC^^paritydrive1: do you get a grub menu first?21:21
EriC^^with ubuntu and windows?21:21
EriC^^that's odd21:21
paritydrive1straight to grub >21:21
EriC^^are you sure you're booted in uefi mode?21:21
paritydrive1i have sdb set as boot 121:22
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, hold on21:22
paritydrive1wait I have Secure Boot off.21:22
paritydrive1err disabled.21:22
EriC^^paritydrive1: is csm legacy enabled though?21:22
EriC^^it needs to be off21:22
paritydrive1UEFI/Legacy enabled.21:22
paritydrive1its both21:22
paritydrive1UEFI & Legacy.21:22
EriC^^can you enable only uefi?21:22
paritydrive1It was at 1st.21:23
paritydrive1didn't work.21:23
EriC^^try it21:23
paritydrive1no i meant21:23
paritydrive1the 1st time i tried like 30 seconds ago21:23
paritydrive1i switch it 5 seconds later.21:23
gordonjcpdaftykins: good call; it's a pretty downlevel bios21:23
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, in grub type insmod linux21:24
Rextergordonjcp: Windows is loosely based on Xerox Pilot distro ;)21:24
gordonjcpRexter: Windows just has never really been on my radar21:24
paritydrive1what should that do?21:24
EriC^^paritydrive1: this is odd21:24
EriC^^paritydrive1: type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt21:24
EriC^^then cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 999921:24
paritydrive1EriC^^: http://termbin.com/tmgw21:25
gordonjcpRexter: I'm dimly aware that a couple of the computers at work use it, but my involvement with them is "plug thing in, press WRITE TO DEVICE, unplug thing"21:25
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, these are the lines you need to boot from grub21:26
EriC^^ill pastebin them21:26
Rextergordonjcp: In my opinion Ubuntu Mate is the best choice for those. You may want to try that, Mate doesn't require H/W acceleration. Otherwise you'll have to get those graphics cards.21:27
EriC^^paritydrive1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897356/21:27
paritydrive1that does what?21:28
EriC^^paritydrive1: you can use tab completion for after linux /boot/<press tab>21:28
gordonjcpRexter: I'll give that a go, is that the one based on the horrible old Gnome 2 desktop?21:28
EriC^^paritydrive1: and you might be able to use root=/dev/sdb5 instead of the uuid21:28
paritydrive1That I know EriC^^21:28
EriC^^paritydrive1: same thing for initrd you can use tab completion,21:29
gordonjcpRexter: whether the GUI uses hardware acceleration seems not to make a difference, even LXDE shows the problem21:29
paritydrive1so this will boot me into the OS.21:29
MythikosSo, I'm new here. Been using Linux Mint 17 up until today. I'm afraid to reboot now, because I was a bit confused during this install. Before, I had a dual-boot setup with Windows 7 and Linux Mint 17.2. I tried to override Linux Mint with Ubuntu, toward the end of install, received a fatal error. It said it could not install bootloader or something to that effect.21:29
EriC^^ok, try writing those lines in grub and see if it boots21:29
paritydrive1brb again.21:29
EriC^^Mythikos: try ls -l /sys/firmware/efi21:31
EriC^^does it exist?21:31
OnkelTemI feel the need to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.0421:31
OnkelTemHow can I do this and get system live?21:31
apollo_hello everyone )21:31
MythikosHow do I access Terminal in Ubuntu?21:31
EriC^^OnkelTem: sudo do-release-upgrade21:31
EriC^^Mythikos: ctrl+alt+t21:31
OnkelTemEriC^^: will I die?21:31
EriC^^OnkelTem: not likely21:32
OnkelTemEriC^^: never? ^_^21:32
EriC^^who knows :P21:32
MythikosNot working :/\21:32
Rextergordonjcp: Yes, Mate is a fork of Gnome 2.21:32
OnkelTemMythikos: KDE?21:32
MythikosI don't think so21:32
EriC^^OnkelTem: you'll be glad if you upgrade, 14.04 is more simple and quicker and stuff21:32
apollo_maybe Xfce?21:32
gordonjcpRexter: didn't like Gnome 2 when it was alive, like it even less now :-)21:32
OnkelTem(in KDE the shortcut is turned off by default)21:33
Rextergordonjcp: sure, but I assume you won't be the one using all 50 or so of these machines.21:33
EriC^^Mythikos: go to the menu or dash and search for terminal21:33
MonkeyDustgordonjcp  if you don't like it, you can easily install something different21:33
gordonjcpRexter: it was the best of a bad bunch...21:33
MythikosI found it in the applications21:33
gordonjcpMonkeyDust: which almost certainly brings us back to the graphics problem21:33
Mythikoscntrl+alt+t is not functioning21:34
gordonjcpRexter: and I'm not convinced that if LXDE suffers from corruption, MATE won't either21:34
Mythikosls -l /sys/firmware/efi is my command21:34
daftykinsgordonjcp: what release do you have installed and which kernel in use?21:34
EriC^^Mythikos: yeah21:34
MythikosNo such file, etc21:34
RobinHood2015I just upgraded Ubuntu MATE 15.04 to 15.10, but now I can't connect to the Internet with my Wi-Fi connection.21:34
EriC^^Mythikos: are you using unity?21:34
gordonjcpdaftykins: currently running 15.10, with whatever is on the live installer21:34
EriC^^Mythikos: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999921:34
Rextergordonjcp: you're right. It's not a desktop environment issue. It's a kernel driver issue.21:34
gordonjcpI'm just about to reboot to the "real" install21:34
daftykinsgordonjcp: ah ok, and tried that BIOS yet?21:34
OnkelTemEriC^^: I'm just tired to hear everday advices to upgrade :)21:35
EriC^^OnkelTem: it's all good :)21:35
gordonjcpdaftykins: just copying it to a DOS bootable stick21:35
gordonjcpdaftykins: kill or cure, I suppose21:35
OneM_IndustriesHey, anyone have a guide on how to interpret the output of smartctl?21:35
apollo_ctrl+alt+f7 back graphic X21:35
daftykinsi kinda suspect no change, it'll go on fine :) no death!21:36
OneM_IndustriesI am not sure, but I suspect that one of my machines is about to blow a couple of drives, so I am wanting to look at the smart statues.21:36
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OnkelTem"You have to download a total of 2,293 M. This download will take about 7 minutes with your connection." -- well, I like to live in 21st cntr21:36
bekksOneM_Industries: So pastebin the output :)21:36
dm_comphi, so I'm 15.04 and I need to run an application that needs X. graphwar.jar (http://graphwar.com/index.html)21:37
OneM_IndustriesI did, and I posted it here last night. Nobody responded.21:37
daftykinsOneM_Industries: sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdx | pastebinit ; where sdx is the given HDD.21:37
daftykinsOneM_Industries: link us again.21:37
bekksdm_comp: And whats the issue?21:37
dm_compbekks: http://pastebin.com/GBK1Ws1f21:37
gordonjcpdaftykins: no luck, "This program cannot be run in DOS mode"21:38
gordonjcpbut it's a .exe file21:38
gordonjcpso, <shrug>21:38
Rextergordonjcp: what version of Ubuntu are you trying again?21:38
daftykinsgordonjcp: yeah you're going to need to find a way to extract it, or throw on Windows temporarily.21:38
paritydrive1EriC^^: Back and i'm in.21:38
EriC^^parityDrive: wb21:38
gordonjcpRexter: 15.10, but all recentish versions of all distros are affected21:38
gordonjcpdaftykins: uhm21:38
daftykinsgordonjcp: double check the HP downloads don't have any other options21:38
EriC^^paritydrive1: it booted ubuntu?21:38
paritydrive1it wasn't hd1,msdos5 btw.21:38
paritydrive1it was hd2.21:38
bekksdm_comp: Are you starting it in a graphical terminal?21:38
paritydrive1Ya i'm in.21:38
RobinHood2015My computer will connect correctly to the Wi-Fi network, but I can't get a connection to the Internet. What's wrong here?21:39
EriC^^paritydrive1: maybe that's why it can't find the config file usually21:39
apollo_ubuntu 15.10 is realised ?21:39
gordonjcp"throw windows on"?21:39
EriC^^paritydrive1: try sudo update-grub21:39
gordonjcpdaftykins: how easy is that to do?21:39
paritydrive1ya I think Elementary doesn't follow the standard number convention of 0,1,2,3, etc21:39
daftykinsOneM_Industries: it's possible that one's not happy, but sadly seagate have the most useless of SMART data so most fields refer to 'error' when they're actually ok, do you get any issues in "dmesg | tail" ?21:39
dm_compbekks: I asked in the java channel and I was told I need X. not sure what you mean by graphical terminal?21:39
daftykinsgordonjcp: what specifically?21:39
bekksdm_comp: "are you starting that application in X?" :)21:40
paritydrive1EriC^^: its running a bit choppy (i5, 4670k, 16gb ram)21:40
gordonjcpdaftykins: "throw windows on"?21:40
paritydrive1could it be because there's not swap drive?21:40
daftykinsgordonjcp: = install21:40
daftykinsOneM_Industries: your second disk has definitely failed21:40
OneM_Industriesdaftykins: Nothing specifically related to the HDDs.21:40
gordonjcpdaftykins: that looks quite complicated21:40
dm_comphow would I do that? doesn't 15.04 use Mir by default?21:40
OneM_Industriessda or b?21:40
EriC^^paritydrive1: no, swap is just used when you use up a lot of ram21:40
EriC^^paritydrive1: maybe graphics driver issue?21:41
dm_compMir replaced X i thought?21:41
daftykinsOneM_Industries: sdb presumably, your second link - the ST31000520AS SN 9VX0972321:41
paritydrive1luca@EoS:~$ sudo update-grub21:41
paritydrive1Generating grub configuration file ...21:41
paritydrive1Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-26-generic21:41
paritydrive1Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.19.0-26-generic21:41
paritydrive1Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda2@/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi21:41
paritydrive1Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration21:41
daftykinsgordonjcp: installing windows and running that .exe seems complicated? nah not at all.21:41
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 999921:41
daftykinsgordonjcp: tell you what, link me to the BIOS download in a PM and i'll see if i can extract it at all21:42
EriC^^paritydrive1: curious to see if it changed the disk names21:42
EriC^^paritydrive1: did you remove the usb from the pc?21:42
OneM_Industriesdaftykins: Just wondering, what makes you say that?21:42
gordonjcpdaftykins: I've never installed Windows before and I can't find a download that's not asking for money21:42
EriC^^btw you'll be unmuted in a sec21:42
paritydrive1sorry about that.21:42
paritydrive1ok brb eating dinner.21:42
daftykinsOneM_Industries: 3 'Current Pending Sector' on line 82, that means some sectors are going bad and likely more will be on the way - then up above, you have 293 already reallocated. that disk has failed, any data on it is at risk right now21:43
dm_compbekks: a link to a howto or/and tutorial would be appreciated on how to start application in X or graphical terminal21:43
Rextergordonjcp: I've got an idea... Do you have one of the machines in question availabe?21:43
OneM_IndustriesOk, new drive is needed NOW.21:43
daftykinsOneM_Industries: likely you've been experiencing freezes, stalls... or generally slower operation than usual21:43
gordonjcpRexter: that's what I'm using at the moment21:43
gordonjcpRexter: it's actually quite difficult :-)21:43
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jgjlHi, I just installed Ubuntu 15.10 for trying out Open vSwitch with DPDK. However, I could not find the poll-mode drivers. Any hints?21:44
Rextergordonjcp: Do you have another machine for this chat?21:44
OneM_IndustriesThat is actually not the main system drive.21:44
daftykinsOneM_Industries: yeah i'm sure it's just your /home, any accesses would have been getting tripped up though21:44
bekksdm_comp: Open a terminal like xterm, gnome-terminal, etc. - done. No Howto needed.21:44
OneM_IndustriesNo, not even that.21:44
MythikosI'm back. That ctrl+alt+f1 got me stuck in some black screen. I'll never do that again21:44
gordonjcpRexter: yes, two ticks, I'll get my laptop21:45
gordonjcpRexter: right21:45
OneM_IndustriesAll it is meerly a secondary storage drive.21:45
daftykinsOneM_Industries: ok, i'd stop using it if i were you - maybe even disconnect it until you get a new one to copy data to21:46
JoeboyI wrote ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso to a usb stick with usb-creator-gtk but I get "boot error" when I try to test it or boot it :-(21:46
dm_compbekks: that's what i did. the output is from the gnome terminal in the pasetbin21:46
dm_compbekks: I also chmod a+rx on the .jar file21:46
EriC^^Joeboy: try with dd21:46
MythikosSo, I tried to install Ubuntu over my Linux Mint 17, and now the bootloading sequence isn't working.21:46
OneM_IndustriesI will, thank you.21:46
MythikosFatal errors and death and mayhem. Help please?21:46
dm_compbekks: java -jar graphwars.jar21:47
EriC^^Joeboy: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync21:47
EriC^^Mythikos: are you still in the install or you booted a live usb?21:47
MythikosLive USB21:47
MythikosInstall won't load21:47
JoeboyEriC^^: I'll give that a whirl. I thought a straight dd didn't work with usb sticks though.21:48
EriC^^Mythikos: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999921:48
EriC^^Joeboy: no, it works with ubuntu iso's21:48
Xfcej-811-1hi , can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897464/21:48
EriC^^Mythikos: paste the link here21:48
EriC^^Mythikos: type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt21:49
wileeeXfcej-811-1, Install or upgrade to willy?21:49
Xfcej-811-1upgrade from 15.0421:49
EriC^^Mythikos: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done21:49
Xfcej-811-1wileee,  upgrade from 15.0421:49
EriC^^Mythikos: type the whole line21:50
Mythikosfor i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done ...?21:50
wileeeXfcej-811-1, For all to fail it looks like a repo or general upgrade issue, bad time to upgrade day of release really, try changing repos.21:50
MythikosYou may have lost me there21:50
EriC^^Mythikos: yeah, type the whole line21:51
Mythikosfor i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done21:51
wileeeXfcej-811-1, Upgrade from has been done? exact context would help.21:51
MythikosIs what I did21:51
EriC^^ok, type sudo chroot /mnt21:51
Xfcej-811-1wileee, yeah i thought so, everyone is downloading right now. ill try again tomorrow maybe the servers are less busy21:51
EriC^^type grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb21:51
Mythikosuh oh21:52
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dm_compjar not running in Ubuntu 15.04 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12897501/21:52
MythikosOh. I got it21:52
OneM_IndustriesOk, second question.21:52
OneM_IndustriesMy main box's boot hdd has 2 bad sectors.21:52
MythikosFinished. No errors.21:53
OneM_IndustriesHow many bad sectors are acceptable?21:53
EriC^^Mythikos: ok, type update-grub21:53
daftykinsOneM_Industries: none ideally - is this one you didn't pastebin?21:53
EriC^^Mythikos: ok, type exit21:53
EriC^^and try rebooting21:54
MythikosEriC^^ Done21:54
OneM_IndustriesI will pastebin it now.21:54
wileeeXfcej-811-1, Cool, should go pretty fast at some point, did this a week ago, smooth sailing.21:54
daftykinsOneM_Industries: good stuff21:54
OneM_IndustriesI worked tech support for a while, so I have some idea on how to help more effectively.21:55
charlie__hello yaha koi bachi hai?21:55
Rextergordonjcp: did I loose you?21:55
Xfcej-811-1wileee,  i wanted to do a clean install , i downloaded the iso pretty fast but i have haundreds of gigs of "stuff" and no place to backup so i decided to do a upgrade21:55
herrkinhello community21:55
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gordonjcpRexter: no, I switched to a laptop and the channel got really busy21:55
aninterAnybody an idea about where to find fingerprints for the keys used to sign the isos?21:56
oldgrumpCan I burn an ISO to CD with "dd if=linux.iso of=/dev/cdrom"?21:56
herrkinme again with the same problem with the swap, for a while it worked just fine, now it wont mount it21:56
daftykinsOneM_Industries: mmm, what i personally do is backup any data then i zero fill the entire disk to weed out any others, if the bad sectors climb horribly... i never trust the disk again and look up warranty options, if they stay at 2... they'll be remapped and the disk might well carry on being fine21:56
gordonjcpoldgrump: no, but that'll work for USB sticks21:56
charlie__L pa charoooo salyooo21:56
herrkinsometimes it does mount it on boot, others it wont.21:56
OneM_IndustriesProblem is that that is the disk with my OS etc on it.21:56
bekksOneM_Industries: So take a backup and replace it.21:57
daftykinsOneM_Industries: if you have another disk of greater size, back it up using clonezilla to image files, then you can do as i say21:57
oldgrumpgordonjcp: I don't have brasero or k3b here. how can i burn my disc?21:57
herrkinso I get swap 0 0  0 when I type free -m21:57
wingnut2626hey is it possible to change the font size in a byobu terminal?21:57
OneM_IndustriesOk. I have another, exactly similar disk, so I will try that.21:57
daftykinsOneM_Industries: cool - best done from a live session - clonezilla has bootable ISOs available21:57
gordonjcpoldgrump: are you talking about actual CDs?21:57
OneM_IndustriesOk, I will try that.21:58
gordonjcpoldgrump: no idea, I'm only 40, I wasn't born when they became obsolete21:58
OneM_IndustriesThank you so much for all the help. ;)21:58
OneM_Industries:) *21:58
gordonjcpoldgrump: dd works just fine onto a USB stick or SD card21:58
oldgrumpI'm talking about a blank CD-R disc.21:58
daftykinsOneM_Industries: no problemo21:58
gordonjcpoldgrump: Back To The Future day was yesterday21:58
OneM_IndustriesNow, to figure this out...21:59
gordonjcpoldgrump: on a more serious note, why not just install brasero or similar?21:59
EriC^^!behelpful | gordonjcp21:59
ubottugordonjcp: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.21:59
oldgrumpOkay. Thanks for the non-helpful response.21:59
aninterAnybody an idea about where to find fingerprints for the keys used to sign the iso files?21:59
daftykinsOneM_Industries: good news is your WD green there is in warranty, so you can send it back to WD for a free replacement - feel free to PM me if you have any questions about it, i've probably sent over 20+ back in my time22:00
OneM_IndustriesI will if it is bad.22:00
EriC^^oldgrump: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Command_Line_.28Terminal.2922:00
OneM_IndustriesFirst, I have to figure out how to use clonezilla.22:00
daftykinsit's easy :D text menu driven22:00
Rextergordonjcp: Okay, so the machine in question. What's it's status?22:01
Rextertell me about it.22:01
Lord_MythI've returned, Eric^^22:01
hedenclodI've recently upgraded to 15.10 and I've noticed that certain programs that rely repos that don't have 15.10 become unresponsive and slow, any suggestions?22:01
Lord_MythThe procedure went well22:01
EriC^^Lord_Myth: pr....?22:01
charlie__hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Golu22:01
oldgrumpEriC^^: thanks, i'll go read that now22:01
EriC^^Lord_Myth: oh, Myth...22:01
EriC^^oldgrump: no problem22:02
EriC^^Lord_Myth: ok, good to know22:02
lozerok lulooooo22:02
Lord_MythEriC^^ Does Ubuntu have Gparted or some equivalent?22:02
Lord_MythI wish to view my partitions22:02
bekksLord_Myth: Yes.22:02
EriC^^Lord_Myth: yeah, it has gparted, you need to install it though22:02
Lord_MythOn it22:02
EriC^^sudo apt-get install gparted22:02
Xfcej-811-1wileee, i just changed the sources from United States to Main Servers and everything is going smooth, i just thought they were the same :P , no clue what happened22:03
charlie__server dow kaisa krna Golu22:03
gordonjcpRexter: boots 15.10, has horrible graphics corruption22:03
wileeeXfcej-811-1, Excellent, who knows, heh, enjoy.22:03
Rextergordonjcp: what is the machine?22:04
Xfcej-811-1thnx for your time wileee :P22:04
Lord_MythI did it, EriC^^. Then I typed 'gparted' (without the quotes) into the Terminal, and it told me it wasn't installed (?)22:04
gordonjcpRexter: HP 8000 Elite Small Form Factor22:04
wileeeXfcej-811-1, no problem. ;)22:04
Lord_MythI know it just installed22:04
herrkinEriC^^, I remember you were helping me last time. it worked but now its screwed again22:05
EriC^^herrkin: what was22:05
Lord_Myth"sudo apt-get install gparted"22:05
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herrkinthe swap can't mount EriC^^22:05
Lord_MythMy luck today...22:05
EriC^^herrkin: you had installed and we used standard swap instead of encrypted?22:05
Epx998How do I change the if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then22:06
Epx998- in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?22:06
herrkinEriC^^, I didnt do anything to it I just kept on working with the machine, all of the suddend it stopped working22:06
Rextergordonjcp: okay, follow my instructions, you may have done some of this already. I don't care, do it again.22:06
Rextergordonjcp: Ready?22:06
EriC^^Epx998: you can set the recordfail in /etc/default/grub22:06
gordonjcpRexter: go22:06
wileeeEpx998, fstab is where22:06
Rextergordonjcp: Log out22:06
Lord_MythEriC^^ Install doesn't seem to have worked22:06
herrkinI havent touched the os EriC^^ , maybe an update did.22:06
EriC^^Epx998: GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=<number> or variable22:07
Lord_MythOr, perhaps it did work, and I cannot get it to run22:07
paritydrive1EriC^^: back :)22:07
EriC^^Lord_Myth: type dpkg -l gparted | nc termbin.com 999922:07
kad_Hi, I'm looking for a way to create a bash file that starts 1 program, sleeps X seconds and start another program. My attempt is ./programA & sleep 5 & ./programB but it start's both programs at once :/22:07
Epx998EriC^^: let me give that a shot22:07
Rextergordonjcp: <ctrl> <alt> <F2>, then log to tty222:07
EriC^^paritydrive1: wb22:07
wileeeEpx998, Miss read ignore my comment, my bad.22:07
paritydrive1did you get the termbin?22:07
TJ-kad_:  "&&" not "&"22:08
EriC^^paritydrive1: yeah22:08
gordonjcpRexter: okay so far22:08
kad_TJ- what's the difference between && and &?22:08
Rextergordonjcp: sudo apt-get update22:08
TJ-kad_: "&" is the background-process operator; "&&" is the if-result-true-do-this operator22:08
EriC^^paritydrive1: try cat /boot/efi/EFI/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 999922:08
herrkinEriC^^, gparted shows sda8 as unknown22:08
gordonjcpRexter: working, this is going to take some time22:09
Lord_Mythherrkin I had that same issue a few moments ago22:09
Epx998EriC^^: made the change and ran grub-mkconfig - but it still says -122:09
herrkinand fdisk -l says its not a valid partition22:09
bekksherrkin: gdisk -l22:09
kad_TJ- programA is a webservice that just runs infinite, seems it's waiting for it to finish before it starts programB now?22:09
gordonjcpRexter: okay, done22:09
Rextergordonjcp: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:09
RexterThen press Y, let it do any, and all updates22:09
TJ-kad_: right. "./programA & sleep 5 && ./programB"22:10
oldgrumpwodim isn't on my system. is there some other common command line tool?22:10
herrkinbekks, that throws an error22:10
gordonjcpRexter: not much to upgrade, done22:10
bekksherrkin: So pastebin the error22:10
EriC^^paritydrive1: ok, maybe it can't load the config cause it says hd1 there not hd222:10
paritydrive1ya maybe22:10
herrkinbekks, it says problem opening -l error 2, file does not exist22:10
Rextergordonjcp: fine, sudo reboot22:11
bekksherrkin: Then which exact command are you invoking?22:11
gordonjcpRexter: just waiting for it to reboot22:11
kad_TJ- awesome, it finally works. Thank you very much :)22:11
EriC^^herrkin: can you pastebin sudo parted -l?22:11
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herrkinok can you remind me what was the term bin command?22:11
JoeboyEriC^^: dd worked (or at least is booting)! Thanks.22:11
Rextergordonjcp: when it comes back up, if it logs you in, logs out again22:11
EriC^^paritydrive1: try editing that file maybe22:11
EriC^^Joeboy: great, no problem22:12
Rextergordonjcp: then go back to tty222:12
paritydrive1ya will do22:12
EriC^^paritydrive1: try sudo nano /boot/efi/EFI/grub/grub.cfg22:12
EriC^^and put hd2 instead of hd122:12
paritydrive1ahead of you :P22:12
EriC^^Lord_Myth: gparted seems installed22:13
gordonjcpRexter: okay22:13
Lord_MythHow do I run it?22:13
Rextergordonjcp: tell me when you're ready for the next step22:13
oldgrumpokay I'm giving up22:13
Lord_MythTyping gparted in the terminal isn't working22:13
gordonjcpRexter: it's logged in22:13
EriC^^Lord_Myth: try going to the menu and looking for it under system22:13
herrkinEriC^^, whats the termbin command please22:13
Rextergordonjcp: tty2?, no GUI?22:14
EriC^^herrkin: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999922:14
Rextersudo mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/22:14
tltwhat is termbin?22:14
Lord_MythOkay, so the Menu is the top left?22:14
Lord_MythAnd System is where?22:14
gordonjcpRexter: ah, yeah, I was about to try that22:14
herrkinEriC^^, http://termbin.com/wmux22:14
Rextersudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf22:14
gordonjcpRexter: yes, I'm reading the same article22:15
EriC^^TJ-: can you help herrkin set up his standard encrypted swap?22:15
Rextergordonjcp: make sure you do sna22:16
EriC^^herrkin: can you type cat /etc/crypttab /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ?22:16
EriC^^Lord_Myth: should be somewhere, under accessories maybe22:16
EriC^^Lord_Myth: i can start gparted from the terminal here22:16
Rextergordonjcp: then reboot again. I'll be eagerly awaiting to see if that worked.22:16
gordonjcpRexter: yeah22:16
EriC^^Lord_Myth: try /usr/sbin/gparted22:16
TJ-herrkin: EriC^^: where is it supposed to be?22:17
tltEriC^^, Lord_Myth maybe he needs to close and reopen his terminal, paths might not have caught up/on yet22:17
Lord_MythEriC^^ No such etc22:17
tltif it was open before installing gparted22:17
gordonjcpbat's doo, vim isn't installed22:17
herrkinTJ-, what do you mean?22:17
TJ-herrkin: EriC^^ encrypted swap in sda8 ?22:17
herrkinyes TJ-22:18
EriC^^TJ-: yeah22:18
Lord_Myth~$ gparted22:18
Lord_MythThe program 'gparted' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:22:18
Lord_Mythsudo apt-get install gparted22:18
TJ-herrkin: "cat /etc/crypttab | nc termbin 9999" please22:18
EriC^^TJ-: crypttab and fstab http://termbin.com/g2wo22:18
EriC^^herrkin: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 999922:19
Lord_MythI reset the terminal windows, tried 'gparted" and the one EriC^^ suggested22:19
Lord_MythNo dice22:19
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bekksLord_Myth: And why dont you just install it?22:19
herrkinEriC^^, http://termbin.com/h9ks22:19
Lord_MythI did22:19
Lord_MythThat's the issue22:19
bekksLord_Myth: Pastebin the output of the command "sudo apt-get install gparted" then.22:19
tltyou just quoted yourself saying gparted was not installed22:20
EriC^^TJ-: parted -l http://termbin.com/wmux22:20
tlttwo minutes ago22:20
gordonjcpRexter: sna is worse, uxa cures it22:21
EriC^^it's odd, he showed dpkg -l a while ago and it was installed22:21
Rextergordonjcp: nice!22:22
Lord_MythMy brain hurts22:22
gordonjcpRexter: indeed22:22
OneM_IndustriesIs there a way from smartctl to tell how old a drive is?22:22
gordonjcpRexter: that's a considerable saving on "free" computers22:22
gordonjcpRexter: thanks22:22
Rextergordonjcp: curious to see how it goes on the others.22:22
daftykinsOneM_Industries: not really, just look up the model #22:22
bekksOneM_Industries: Sure, look at the poweron hours.22:22
tltOneM_Industries, you can guess by the poweron yes22:22
gordonjcpRexter: they're identical, less RAM22:22
bekksOneM_Industries: that will give you a good hint at least.22:23
gordonjcpRexter: I'll just roll that into preseed.cfg when I install them22:23
TJ-herrkin: EriC^^ OK, there seems to be a bug in ecryptfs-setup-swap. The fault is it no longer adds the crypttab option "offset=1024", which means the metadata header of the partition is over-written so that next time the system boots it cannot find the UUID of the target partition.22:23
Rextergordonjcp: but didn't you say some were Dells, and Acers?22:23
OneM_Industries33,047 poweron hours.22:23
Epx998How do I get /etc/default/grub to override /boot/grub/grub.cfg for an option like GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT?22:23
gordonjcpRexter: oh those are just random crap floating around the workshop22:23
gordonjcpRexter: it's the HPs I'm interested in22:23
bekksOneM_Industries: So it is at least 3.77y old.22:23
tltTJ-, just tell him to mkswap the right /dev/sd*22:23
EriC^^TJ-: oh22:23
EriC^^that's interesting22:24
bekksOneM_Industries: Aint that old.22:24
EriC^^tlt: he did, then it apparently overwrote everything in an update22:24
OneM_IndustriesYeah, I know.22:24
herrkinTJ-, I think it was EriC^^ who told me to put the partition on the configuration instead of the uuid22:24
tltI see22:24
NeverHereHi everyone, is there a MAAS channel or can questions about installing MAAS be asked here?22:24
daftykinsEpx998: you edit then run "sudo update-grub"22:24
daftykins!alis | NeverHere22:24
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TJ-herrkin: Yes, that should solve the issue. Did a reboot not mount the swap?22:24
Rextergordonjcp: Thank YOU..... Now I know what to do the next time I run into this.22:24
herrkinTJ-, if I used the uuid it didnt mount it either22:24
rwwNeverHere: #maas22:25
TJ-herrkin: which ubuntu release is it?22:25
herrkinTJ-, thats why we changed it. but it worked for a while, now it doesnt22:25
gordonjcpRexter: yeah, stick it in preseed so when you netboot the installer you don't even have to think about it22:25
herrkinits 14.0422:25
rwwNeverHere: you can ask here, but most people here probably have no experience with it22:25
EriC^^TJ-: does he have to create the partition a special way to use it with encryption?22:25
TJ-herrkin: OK, so Upstart not Systemd.22:25
TJ-EriC^^: No, the swap  gets recreated each boot with a new key from /dev/random22:26
EriC^^TJ-: i think we just created a normal swap and decided to use it without encryption at first22:26
gordonjcpRexter: what's particularly funny is that the thumbnail screenshots in Firefox's "new tab" screen show the same corruption, from when they were grabbed :-)22:26
wldcordeiroI'm having trouble with getting my laptop to come back from a suspend. I have a Dell XPS 15 9530 and I installed 15.10 on it.22:27
wldcordeiroWhen I suspend and then try to start it back up the screen will stay off.22:27
Rextergordonjcp: It may not be appropriate for all machines though, even most newer Intel boards.22:27
Lord_MythI cannot seem to find gparted in the menu either22:28
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parityDriveEriC^^: i gave up.  I've spent all day trying to fix it, need to get 8hrs of work done in 4 hrs. :P22:28
Lord_MythI searched it with the bar, because I'm lost navigating this menu so far.22:28
EriC^^parityDrive: did you boot ubuntu again?22:28
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EriC^^parityDrive: TJ- can help you i'm sure22:28
TJ-EriC^^: that won't affect things. herrkin what does this show? "grep ENABLE /etc/default/cryptdisks"22:28
parityDriveyes I did.22:29
goddardanyone know of an app that lets you simulate a web cam with a video?22:29
parityDriveand i had to manually boot into it.22:29
EriC^^parityDrive: try to modify the file again, as it was, hd122:29
parityDriveno grub menu etc.22:29
parityDrivei did.22:29
parityDriveI'll do it after I do some work.22:29
EriC^^TJ-: it can't find the config22:29
wldcordeiroAnyone know about solutions to fixing suspend?22:29
goddardwldcordeiro: do you have a swap partition?22:29
EriC^^parityDrive: if you disconnect the other hdd's it might work maybe as a temporary fix if you need it22:30
wldcordeirogoddard: I'm not 100% sure. I installed default with LVM and an encrypted home dir, unless the install default stopped adding a swap partition I would assume so.22:30
Lord_MythI'm baby-neckin' over here. Gparted is here, but it isn't. I don't get it22:30
parityDriveNa its ok, i have to much work to do.  I will probably move everything off sdb and redo it.22:31
parityDrivehopefully that works.22:31
herrkinTJ-, EriC^^ CRYPTDISKS_ENABLE=Yes22:31
goddardwldcordeiro: what does your system log say?22:32
Lord_MythDoes Ubuntu hate to install over another distro on a dual-bot system with Windows? Is that my issue? Do I need to Solve et Coagula?22:32
wldcordeirogoddard: where is the log?22:32
goddardwldcordeiro: just open the dash and type log22:32
goddardLord_Myth: yes it can22:33
Lord_MythThen it is all me, and that is worse22:33
goddardLord_Myth: though it may not work "hassle free" depending on some partition schemes22:33
Lord_MythI cannot access gparted to check my partitions and make sure everything is good22:33
TJ-herrkin: OK... so at boot-time Upstart will call the Sysv-init /etc/init.d/cryptdisks script, which will call /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks.functions which in turn parses /etc/crypttab and creates nodes based on what it finds. That creates a device mapper node /dev/mapper/cryptswap1. Later, mountall will use the entry in /etc/fstab to 'swapon' the swap device22:33
goddardLord_Myth: you in live cd?22:33
goddardLord_Myth: that is why22:34
wldcordeirogoddard: Is there something I should be looking for? It's spitting out every event type known to man.22:34
TJ-herrkin: if something is going wrong in that process we need to look at the logs, starting with the kernel log. Can you "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log"22:34
goddardLord_Myth: you can use disks to just view them but if you want to do any modification you need to boot into live cd22:34
Lord_MythI can't even open it to view22:34
goddardwldcordeiro: you just gotta look over the time period when you attempted a shut down22:35
Lord_MythI have a basic graps of the whole mounted stuff cannot be modified thing22:35
Lord_MythI just wanna SEE it22:35
goddardLord_Myth: gnome disks doesn't show it?22:35
Lord_MythWhat is gnome disks? Can I type it in Terminal?22:35
goddardLord_Myth: type it in the Dash22:36
tltis the 'gnome disk'22:36
function-hey guys, anyone else experience the flickering when firing up google chrome? @ xubuntu 15.10 here22:37
herrkindo I have to install pastebin?22:37
Quatrokinganybody here know how to listen to internet radio using mplayer?22:37
Lord_Mythgoddard I have Disks ?22:37
Lord_MythI mean, it is called "Disks"22:37
TJ-herrkin: if it isn't installed, do instead "cat /var/log/kern.log | nc termbin.com 9999"22:37
goddardLord_Myth: perfect22:37
Quatrokingtrying to listen to http://www.538.nl but I can't seem to figure out what address to use22:37
gordonjcpQuatroking: depends on what they're trying to serve22:37
tlttry vlc Quatroking22:37
gordonjcpQuatroking: mplayer will choke on .pls files, but you can pass it the url within the .pls file22:37
goddardLord_Myth: that should display all the disks22:38
Quatrokinggordonjcp, the only thing I've found so far is .asx22:38
gordonjcpQuatroking: I can't speak Dutch, where am I looking for the "listen" link?22:38
Lord_Mythgoddard Do I need a root partition, and a home one too?22:38
Rextergordonjcp: I don't know what's going on there. Do you think you'll need to reinstall Firefox?22:38
gordonjcpRexter: hm?22:38
Quatrokinggordonjcp, "Luister Nu"22:39
Quatrokingthe big green button on top22:39
Quatrokingit opens up a popup with a flash-driven stream though22:39
SquarismWhat is the best way to integrate gmail with unity?22:39
gordonjcpQuatroking: hm, so it does22:39
Lord_MythI just wanna make sure it is all proper. I had boot issues after installing Ubuntu22:40
gordonjcpQuatroking: http://www.hendrikjansen.nl/henk/streaming.html22:40
Quatrokingtried those two links already :)22:41
Quatrokinghold on though, might've found one22:41
coolwasimhello i was upgrading to 15.10 from 15.04 via terminal , i am getting the following message http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897854/22:41
coolwasimam not sure what is appropriate :)22:41
gordonjcpQuatroking: my next cunning plan would be to sniff the traffic with Wireshark and see where it comes from :-)22:41
goddardLord_Myth: no just 1 root partition22:41
Quatrokingwoo, got it22:42
function-coolwasim: that's for a scanner22:42
Quatrokinghttp://edge3-icecast.538.lw.triple-it.nl/RADIO538_MP3 worked22:42
goddardLord_Myth: some people like to break out the home directory so they can re-install easier22:42
coolwasimmy pc is a laptop with dual booted ubuntu and win722:42
tltgrats Quatroking22:42
Lord_Mythgoddard I think my partitions are screwed up then22:42
function-anyone here using 15.10 with google chrome?22:42
coolwasimfunction-: so i t doesn't matter? :)22:42
function-coolwasim: correct22:42
Quatrokinggordonjcp, haha, wireshark, haven't used that in years22:42
goddardLord_Myth: only need a swap and a root22:43
EriC^^Lord_Myth: type echo $PATH22:43
herrkinTJ-, EriC^^ http://termbin.com/fywu in case you didnt see22:43
Quatrokingfirefox/chrome's network tool usually works good enough though22:43
Lord_Mythecho $PATH22:43
goddardLord_Myth: if you do an install just remove the partitions you don't want and then create a swap and root22:43
Quatrokinganyways I found a site that has the stream embedded and provided a WMP link22:43
goddardLord_Myth: the swap should be the same size as your memory22:43
Lord_Mythgoddard it is actually 2GB smaller22:44
TJ-herrkin: there are no clues there, unfortunately22:45
aisam-linuxi  love linux22:45
goddardLord_Myth: it doesn't matter that much it is just the recommended way to go because if your memory is full it dumbs it all to disk22:45
herrkinTJ-, o.022:45
Lord_MythI see22:45
TJ-herrkin: let's try 'starting' that service manually and see if it works. "sudo /etc/init.d/cryptdisks start"22:46
Lord_MythI removed uninstalled gparted since it wouldn't work22:46
herrkinTJ-, it says running but I see 0 0 0 in free-m22:47
OneM_Industriesdaftykins: How would I find out how many spare sectors there are to reallocate to? The person that controls the box is resisting replacing it, because apparently unless it is about to die imminently, it doesn't need to be replaced.22:47
Lord_MythBut it has been so long since I initially set up my partitions, that I don't remember any of it. Looks like a big mess and waste of efficieny and space22:47
tltif the drive has reallocated at all it should just as well be replaced, OneM_Industries22:48
TJ-herrkin: "ls -l /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"22:48
tltyou will still have to eventually22:48
OneM_IndustriesI know, I know.22:49
tltrisky, have backups do22:49
OneM_IndustriesI just need some more data for this person.22:49
OneM_IndustriesThere are backups.22:50
herrkinTJ-, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 oct 22 17:45 /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 -> ../dm-022:50
Lord_MythEriC^^ ?22:50
TJ-herrkin: It worked :D ... now do "sudo mount -a"22:50
TJ-herrkin: then "cat /proc/swaps"22:50
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Lord_MythSo should I wipe the hardrive and start from scratch? I'm completely lost22:51
daftykinsOneM_Industries: it doesn't work like that, you can't keep going with a disk that's shot.22:51
daftykinsOneM_Industries: you need to convince them that these kinds of failures can spiral out of control, so data must be kept off it and it must be replaced immediately. Which one is the one this person is refusing to deal with?22:52
OneM_IndustriesI KNOW! This person does not, they are basing their assumptions on, and they stated this, 20 years ago, when bad sectors were meerly something that "Happened".22:52
daftykinslol, idiots22:53
OneM_IndustriesThey are refusing to replace it.22:53
OneM_IndustriesI can't exactly tell my dad that, now can I?22:53
daftykinsso is it the seagate or the WD?22:53
daftykinswell i would.22:53
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daftykinsbut then my family believe me :P22:53
OneM_IndustriesIt is one of the seagates.22:53
daftykinsthat's the one that's way worse22:53
OneM_IndustriesYeah, I know.22:54
daftykinsthat thing is spiralling out of control even as is22:54
daftykinsah well, there's nothing we can do to help your situation22:54
OneM_IndustriesThey want to know how many spare sectors it has, "Because if it is 293 out of 600, then it is a problem. If it is 293 out of 10,000, then it is not a problem.".22:54
tltit's just as big of a problem22:55
OneM_IndustriesI just don't want it to fail and take out the whole kebang.22:55
daftykinsi refuse to assist in a ridiculous situation like that, i've got a disk here which is 80GB... _50GB_ of it is bad because someone kept it running22:55
bazhangOneM_Industries, ##hardware for this22:55
tltdaftykins, it reallocates to the ordinary space map?22:55
TJ-OneM_Industries: Tell them spare-sectors only work if the disk can recover the data from a failing sector using the CRC data of that sector; if that won't work bad sectors will remain since they cannot be remapped. If the disk is in that situation then spare sectors are no help, and the disk is a liability22:56
tlt50 gb?22:56
daftykinstlt: no those were bad, not reallocated22:56
daftykinsyou run out eventually obviously ;)22:56
tltdaftykins, yeah i figured eventually. That's bad.22:56
TJ-herrkin: is swap working now?22:56
herrkinTJ-, it isnt22:57
TJ-herrkin: did you use the mount command?22:57
herrkinproc/swaps blanc22:57
tlttry swapon -a22:57
tltor something22:57
TJ-herrkin: OK, so let's remove the device mapper entry and re-run the init script. "sudo dmsetup remove /dev/mapper/cryptsetup1"22:57
herrkinI guess it is cryptswap122:58
TJ-herrkin: Then, rerun the script: "sudo /etc/init.d/cryptdisks" and check again to ensure it was the script re-creating the node with "ls -l /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"22:58
TJ-herrkin: sorry, tired... typos!22:58
herrkinsudo /etc/init.d/cryptdisks it returns a message like it was not used correctly22:59
TJ-herrkin: Grr, more brain pain: "sudo /etc/init.d/cryptdisks start" and check again to ensure it was the script re-creating the node with "ls -l /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"23:00
herrkinnow its there23:01
herrkinI got swap23:01
TJ-herrkin: OK, so that is working correctly. Now do "sudo blkid /dev/mapper/cryptswap1" and tell us what it reports23:01
TJ-herrkin: you did "mount -a" too?23:02
herrkinjust the start and it mounted23:02
herrkinno return for last command23:02
TJ-herrkin: hmm, I'm pretty sure cryptdisks isn't supposed to mount the device-mapper node;  must be a udevd rule23:02
herrkinyes there is I forgot to type 1 at the end23:03
herrkinthere is a rule23:03
TJ-herrkin: OK, well now we've proved it will work and we were using the boot-time scripts called manually,  so in theory a boot should also mount it23:03
herrkinin theory23:03
herrkinI am going to try23:03
herrkinI will be back to tell you if it worked23:04
herrkinTJ-, its on after reboot but while it was booting it said for a while it couldnt mount it23:07
tltit always does23:07
tltatleast with crypt set up23:07
tltthat line is always there.23:07
TJ-herrkin: that's to be expected... mountall jobs run in parallel and have to wait for their devices to appear23:07
Squarismwhat gmail notififier works with ubuntu/unity 14.0423:08
herrkinyes I noticed it did before but it still worked in the end. until now that I needed to come back here.23:08
TJ-herrkin: same happens with mdadm and/or LVM23:08
herrkinwell its working for now. thanks a lot. if It happens again I would have to come back23:08
tltdon't worry about the swap line at bootup, it'll always be there23:08
TJ-herrkin: it would fail if you answered the wait prompt with (S)kip23:09
tltyeah that's thrue though23:09
herrkinI never do, but sometimes this like keeps on the screen until the system loads23:09
herrkinthen I check free -m23:09
herrkinno swap23:09
tltyou can check swap with the ' top ' command also23:10
TJ-herrkin: "cat /proc/swaps" is the way to check the kernel's view of swap devices23:10
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herrkinthanks again. bye for now.23:12
tltbye herrkin23:13
Epx998anything other than recordfail that'd cause grub to wait at the menu indefinately?23:13
gabriel_dont know how i came here23:13
tltyeah a ridiculously high timeout set23:13
TJ-Epx998: yes; missing vmlinuz-* and/or initrd-* for the default entry23:16
tltI think it is ridiculous how short filenames have to be under ecryptfs23:17
tltway shorter than the ext4 supported lengths23:17
tltso everyone who "encrypts home dir" have to use relatively short filenames23:18
SharonBitesmehdi: mano mikoni?23:18
Epx998TJ-: where do I validate the default entry?23:19
TJ-Epx998: if the default entry boots, then that isn't the issue.23:20
TJ-tlt: that's only if filename encryption is enabled; 140 characters is still a good margin23:22
tltfilename encryption however is enabled by default23:22
tltbut you're right23:22
Epx998bloody hell i just want this damn to boot without waiting on grub after a sudden shutdown23:23
tltenabled by default in 12.04 and 14.04 at least23:23
Jordan_UEpx998: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg.23:23
p444How can i find what start up services are runnign n linux?23:24
TJ-Epx998: "after a sudden shutdown" - that is due to the OS not clearing the Simple Boot flag23:24
Jordan_Up444: What version of Ubuntu are you using?23:24
Epx998TJ-: how can I fix something like that?23:24
EriC^^p444: service --status-all23:26
OneM_IndustriesDoes fsck have a command for checking a ntfs HDD?23:26
Jordan_UOneM_Industries: No. To properly check or repair an ntfs volume you need to use chkdsk from Windows.23:27
p444Jordan_U xubuntu23:27
Jordan_Up444: What release number?23:27
daftykinsOneM_Industries: you would not do that.23:27
OneM_IndustriesThat...is going to be tricky.23:27
daftykinsOneM_Industries: install to a spare, then chkdsk it23:27
daftykinsas in, install Windows23:27
OneM_IndustriesI don't really have a spare.23:28
daftykinsactually you can just boot the installer23:28
daftykinsthen shift+F6 will run a command prompt23:28
TJ-Epx998: the  grub.cfg script has several stanzaz that set timeout=XXX based on different conditions, which are generated from /etc/grub.d/00_header. Some of those are influenced by variables set in /etc/default/grub.23:28
wakeatnightHi, is there a way to prevent LightDM of running dunst? (starting of dunst is in Openbox' autostart.sh - no idea why LightDM is running that)?23:28
p444Jordan_U 14.0423:28
wakeatnightI see I have an old .xinitrc in my home folder with exec openbox-session. Is that the problem?23:29
Jordan_Up444: Then I belive "initctl list | grep running" will get you that information.23:31
Jordan_UEriC^^: That only works for sysvinit scripts, not for native upstart jobs.23:31
Jordan_UEpx998: Did you see my request for you to pastebin your /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?23:34
JoeboySince I upgraded to 15.10, I can see wireless APs with iwlist scan, but the network manager applet no longer contains any references to anything wireless. No "Enable wifi", no SSIDs listed. Any ideas?23:34
TJ-Jordan_U: service works with Upstart jobs too23:34
p444Jordan_U thanks, this lists things such as 'upstart-file-bridge start/running process 1799' etc. does this command show what is currently runnign or what runs on start up? Sorry for newbie questions, learning23:35
ai6pgAmerican Human Right Wolf Defense with a firearm saves lives http://holmesivonline.com23:35
Jordan_UTJ-: From "man service" : service --status-all runs all init scripts, in alphabetical order, with the status command. This option only calls status  for  sysvinit  jobs, upstart jobs can be queried in a similar manner with initctl list'.23:36
Epx998Jordan_U: I didn't - 1 sec trying one last change.23:36
TJ-Jordan_U: From "/usr/sbin/service": "... # Upstart configuration exists for this job and we're running on upstart ..."23:36
durtJust upgraded to 15.10 lost 3g usb modem (connects but no network) anyone else?23:37
Epx998Jordan_U: Tweaking the timeouts from 0 to 5 and enabling display of the countdown23:37
Jordan_Up444: It shows what is currently running, which is pretty close to the same as what was started at boot. Maybe bootchart would give you the information you want. What is your end goal?23:38
Epx998ok making those pastebins23:39
Jordan_UJoeboy: Do you have any wireless configuration in /etc/network/interfaces ?23:39
wakeatnightWill disabling Composite in X.org cause any problems (I am not running a compositing manager)?23:39
wakeatnightI am using the radeon open source driver.23:39
Jordan_Uwakeatnight: I don't see how it would, but I also wouldn't expect it to have any noticeable effect if you're not running a compositor. Why do you want to disable composite?23:40
wakeatnightJordan_U: I use LightDM with Openbox and run dunst for notifications. For some reason, it gets loaded (or something else?) during LightDM...23:41
wakeatnightAnd it looks weird, black borders etc.23:41
wakeatnightI guess LightDM expects compositing.23:41
wakeatnightdunst gets loaded in Openbox' autostart.sh23:42
wakeatnightWhich shouldn't be run while still in LightDM I thought.23:42
wakeatnightJordan_U: I alsa have a trailing .xinitrc with "exec openbox-session" in it. Should I remove that or is that still needed even though I run LightDM now?23:43
wakeatnightAny help would be great.23:43
Epx998etc/default/grub: http://paste.ofcode.org/NHnNubpfyduiTq76xZvr9v23:43
p444Jordan_U These are my 3goals! My goal is to 1) List all startup services my laptop are running  2) Check what each of them services are and what they are for which i will search online, 3) Configure laptop so I can turn off whats not needed to start up via command and then also configure what needs to be on during startup.. I can do it in windows but linux is different.. trying ot get into Computer Science23:43
Epx998boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://paste.ofcode.org/jKxVzZrnvQmjfAxNinX5Yi23:43
tltwakeatnight, comment the line out with a # in front of it and just try and see23:43
tltif it causes errors remove the # again23:44
Jordan_UTJ-: That comment doesn't seem to relate to the --status-all option, which seems to only iterate through services in /etc/init.d/, as documented in the manual, but I'll admit I don't completely understand that script.23:45
JoeboyJordan_U: I got it working! Had to enable the interface with iwconfig and restart networking, for some reason.23:45
tltwakeatnight, if you are running lightdm with a shipped x session config then you should not really need anything in xinitrc23:45
wakeatnightOK tlt I'm gonna try it out.23:46
Caseysorry i'm new to bash, what does this code do? http://pastebin.com/mPPCUe5c23:46
daftykinsCasey: ask in #bash23:47
TJ-Jordan_U: yes, you're correct. Apologies. I missed the mention of status-all (popping in and out :)23:47
Jordan_UTJ-: No problem :)23:48
TJ-Good time to get off to bed, before the west coast starts trying 15.10 upgrades!23:49
Jordan_UEpx998: I don't see any reason why that grub.cfg should wait at the menu for anything other than 5 seconds unless a key is pressed. Can you reproduce the problem currently?23:49
Epx998Jordan_U: Yes, I am sending a 'power off hard' command vie iLO to simulate a crash of sorts.23:50
tltno wonder you get grub errors then23:50
tltor clean boot flag errors which is23:50
Epx998I am not getting a grub error, I am reproducing what is happening in PROD23:51
Jordan_UEpx998: And the result is it waiting indefinitely at the grub menu?23:51
Epx998How can I correct this so when something like ths happens, grub boots?23:51
Epx998Jordan_U: Yes23:51
tltwakeatnight, how it seems?23:51
Jordan_UEpx998: Can you reproduce, then press 'c' to get to a grub shell and then "echo $timeout"?23:51
wakeatnighttlt, Jordan_U: Problem persists. I think this _isn't_ a compositing issue. I think this is the unthemed dunst...23:52
Epx998Jordan_U: Ok on it23:52
wakeatnightIs there a way to check whether it gets loaded on startup?23:52
tltwakeatnight, it could be. Sorry to hear that though.23:52
wakeatnightIf so, I would like to remove it so it only starts when I am in Openbox.23:52
wakeatnightI read about .desktop files as a means to start up programs. Can I look up if there is a dunst.desktop?23:53
Jordan_UEpx998: I wonder if your iLO setup might just be sending spurious keypresses. If grub detects a keypress, any key press, that will cancel the timeout.23:53
TJ-Epx998: Add "GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=X" to /etc/default/grub23:53
Epx998Jordan_U: I asked that with the guy who orders these servers.23:53
Epx998TJ-: I did.  Well not X, I set it to 0.23:54
TJ-Epx998: 0 == wait forever usually23:54
Epx998TJ-: hmm ok, I thought -1 was wait forever.23:55
Epx998Prior to this reset, I went back to 5 - see what happens.23:55
TJ-Epx998: You know, now you said that I'm doubting myself!23:55
wakeatnighttlt: Nope. No dunst.desktop file around. What is this unthemed/default themed dunst (or something else?) doing in LightDM?23:55
Jordan_UEpx998: TJ-: Indeed, -1 is wait forever in this case. Also note that at least since 14.04 the default has been to wait 30 seconds if a previous boot failure is detected, not to wait indefinitely.23:56
tltwakeatnight, sorry I haven't the slightest idea!23:56
wakeatnighttlt: Ah OK. No problem.23:56
Epx998Jordan_U: This is 12.04 btw. ;P23:56
Epx998the 'echo $timeout' just returned an empty line23:57
tltwakeatnight, if you have no custom configs or important files there, why not nuke all the respective . directories?23:57
tltfor lightdm/dunst or whatso23:58
Jordan_UEpx998: That's not normal. Are you sure you don't have a typo?23:58
wakeatnightWell I do have my dunst theme tlt23:58
wakeatnightI would like to use it23:58
tltmight be some crud from earlier and from manually exec etc23:58
wakeatnightBut it's in my home folder so LightDM can't see it I guess.23:58
Jordan_UEpx998: Or maybe it is (I just tried it myself).23:58
tlt.themes might be an official theme folder23:58
tlttry placing the theme in ~/.themes23:59
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy23:59
tltor at worst .Themes23:59
wakeatnightIt is.23:59
ubottuTo change GNOME themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu (KDE) themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu (Xfce): !xfce-themes23:59
wakeatnightdaftykins: Thanks but that is not the issue.23:59

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