[00:06] <bpeak> Is there any way of getting more up-to-date software in Ubuntu LTS? For a specific package. Maybe something like a snappy application?
[00:07] <daftykins> finding PPAs would be one way
[00:07] <daftykins> then compiling would be the last resort
[00:10] <bpeak> I found a more up-to-date deb, but it requires a newer version of libgnutls... So, hmmm. Updating libgnutls is prone to causing errors? Since probably a lot of software depends on it
[00:10] <ROWLANDX10> :D
[00:11] <daftykins> bpeak: manual .deb's are a bad idea, since they won't get updated
[00:11] <vfw> bpeak: You have discovered the main problem
[00:12] <vfw> bpeak: Many packages require libraries (or versions of libraries) that you don't have on your current system.
[00:15] <bpeak> Snappy is supposed to alliaviate such situations, right? With dependencies being 'self-contained' (if I'm understanding snappy correctly)
[00:16] <daftykins> i don't think snappy is currently in use
[00:18] <neurot> it would be nice to see some snappy apps
[00:21] <Starn> know any good budgeting software for ubuntu?
[00:28] <bazhang> http://www.junauza.com/2013/01/best-finance-software-for-ubuntu.html Starn
[00:28] <vfw> !info gnucash | Starn
[00:31] <thecyclone> hi I have NVIDIA and Intel GPU in my laptop
[00:32] <daftykins> uh-huh, we call that an nvidia optimus setup
[00:32] <thecyclone> by default it shows The GPU to be Intel
[00:32] <thecyclone> how to swicth?
[00:32] <daftykins> sometimes, but rarely, they can be switched in the BIOS
[00:32] <thecyclone> *switch
[00:32] <daftykins> otherwise, you just need to install an nvidia proprietary driver along with the nvidia-prime package
[00:33] <thecyclone> oh thanks
[00:50] <Starn> vfw, gnucash displays save and close and the rest is just white.. there's nothing there. just a save and close button
[00:51] <bazhang> Starn, what about the others in the link I gave you
[00:52] <Starn> bazhang, haven't gotten to them yet figured seeing how gnucash isn't working for me i'd try another. i used to use gnucash back in the day so i thought i'd start with it.
[00:52] <vfw> Starn:  Not sure where you are with it, but if you have it installed properly, you first have to set up the accounts.
[00:53] <Starn> vfw, it doesn't even give me an option too. just save and close buttons
[00:53] <vfw> Starn: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Using_GnuCash
[00:54] <vfw> Starn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAaScYVeRQ
[00:54] <Starn> vfw, nvm it is working now. i exited chrome and after loading it now it displays accounts etc.
[01:01] <Zirg> Have an issue with LTS. Added a user (useradd -m $USER), edited /etc/group and added that user to the same groups as the original user, but any time i try to log in via KDM, it drops me right back to KDM. Any thoughts, ideas on what to look into to correct this??
[01:02] <vfw> Zirg: ls /home/  (do you see the home dir?)
[01:04] <Zirg> vfw, yes. it was created with the -m as it was supposed to. i can log in via a VT, w/o issues.
[01:05] <vfw> pastebinit /etc/group
[01:06] <ecksit> heya, how do i go about getting the full 40 character apt key ID from my custom apt-server?
[01:07] <vfw> Zirg: df
[01:08] <vfw> Zirg: What is use% for /home?
[01:08] <Zirg> vfw, still have plenty of room.
[01:08] <vfw> Zirg: df -i
[01:09] <Zirg> vfw, /dev/sdb2        6.5M  518K  6.0M    8% /
[01:09] <vfw> Zirg: Home is mounted on /dev/sda2 Right?
[01:10] <Zirg> affirmative
[01:11] <nux> how do i create access points form my usb wifi dongles. i got two of them but none will work. i tried to follow this guide : http://askubuntu.com/questions/490950/create-wifi-hotspot-on-ubuntu
[01:11] <vfw> ls -l /home/user  (See who the files are owned by).
[01:11] <nux> they work fine in windows using virtual router.
[01:12] <vfw> ls -ld /home/user  (See permissions and ownership of user)
[01:12] <daftykins> install hostapd
[01:12] <nux> daftykins, have you tried it?
[01:13] <daftykins> not personally no
[01:13] <Zirg> vfw, owned by the $USER
[01:14] <vfw> pastebinit /etc/group
[01:14] <nux> daftykins, do i find it in some repo ? or do i need to enable some repo or compile it or?
[01:15] <vfw> Zirg: Are you sure you have the password correct?
[01:15] <vfw> Zirg: You *can* login to it in a terminal or console. Right?
[01:15] <Zirg> hahahah. yeah, vfw. as i said earlier, i can log into a regular vt, w/o issues.
[01:16] <quidnunc> Why can't I match on a package name in /etc/apt/preferences?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12891049/
[01:16] <vfw> Zirg: Not sure really.  Have you tried just rebooting?
[01:16] <Zirg> vfw, thrice.
[01:16] <vfw> Zirg: You might delet the user and re-create it.  (I use adduser username)
[01:21] <shurtagul> Unity is written with Qt right?
[01:22] <vfw> Zirg: You might even remove the /home dir too.  sudo rm -rf /home/user
[01:22] <vfw> Zirg: (The adduser script will make it anew)
[01:22] <Zirg> as does the useradd script
[01:23] <Zirg> same animal, different label
[01:23] <Zirg> the directories are there. the perms are right.
[01:23] <vfw> Zirg: You are mixing apples and oranges.
[01:24] <vfw> Zirg: adduser is a script
[01:24] <Zirg> no, oranges and orangutans
[01:24] <vfw> useradd is not
[01:25] <vfw> Zirg: rm -rf /home/user && userdel user && adduser user
[01:25] <vfw> Zirg: Try it and see.
[01:26] <vfw> Zirg: I do not know what you did wrong, but I do know how to do what you want.
[01:27] <Zirg> user's added. i'll give it a shot here in a minute. tanx for the input/assist, vfw
[01:28] <vfw> Zirg: And if you don't believe me, look and see: file /usr/sbin/adduser /usr/sbin/useradd
[01:29] <vfw> Zirg: You are welcome.  Glad to help
[01:29] <Zirg> vfw, oh, i believe you. i've used both. :-)  been running *nix for a  L O N G  time. first kernel was 0.35
[01:30] <vfw> Registered Linux User #188099
[01:31] <vfw> (I've not been at it long as you, but been here a while.) (Made *many* mistakes, corrected *many* :)
[01:36] <mbo> hi - i got a networking issue :/   i would like to bridge (layer2) a vlan to a vm (kvm/qemu) -  created a bridge and a vlan interface on the pyh device. ARP requests are coming out of the vm to the router outside of the host but the ARP answer does not get back to the vm. It is lost between the bridge and the virtual device of the host.
[01:42] <mbo> It does work when i configure the address on the bridge itself - in both directions …
[01:44] <zykotick9> mbo: <sidenote> i remember running into issues trying to bridge a wireless network device (also for kvm/qemu), i seem to recall reading about _most_ wireless cards not supporting it :(  YMMV, best of luck.
[01:45] <mbo> zykotick9:
[01:45] <mbo> zykotick9: i am using a intel nic (x710 chipset)
[01:46] <mbo> no wifi - and it seems to be a problem within ubuntu.
[01:46] <mbo> lol withing the bridge or between the bridge and the virtual interface
[01:47] <zykotick9> mbo: ahhhh, well, best of luck.  /me doesn't have anything more to contribute :(
[01:55] <definity> Hi, My ubuntu has stoped booting, it says no media found when i boot, yet when i boot off a live USB I can see the disk how can i make it so it boots off the disk agian
[01:56] <johnzorn_> how would I change the default program a file is opened with from the command line?
[01:58] <pbx> i'm trying to mount a windows share for the first time and it's stumping me.  address given me by windows techs was \\DOMAIN_REDACTED\foo\bar\ - tried `sudo mount -t cifs` with that and got "No such device or address"
[02:01] <imthenachoman> hey guys. anyone using google authenticator for 2 factor auth with ssh? trying to see if i can make it so i only need to use two factor if the key is not there
[02:03] <OneM_Industries> I have a machine that I am looking at the SMART status on, and I suspect that /dev/sda and possibly b are in the process of dieing. Anyone mind looking at these to double check my work? http://pastebin.com/PjL1wge5  http://pastebin.com/4aqweJFq
[02:11] <OneM_Industries> Anyone have a good guide one how to interpret the smartctl output?
[02:14] <Jezzermeii> Hello. Can anyone help me? I am looking to patch mesa on my powerpc installation of Debian Jessie. However, I can't seem to get the .patch files extracted from some .bins.
[02:14] <Jezzermeii> The patches in question are here http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2013-December/050218.html
[02:15] <Ben64> ask ##debian
[02:15] <Ben64> whoops, it's #debian
[02:21] <mbo> … updating to 15.10 did it ...
[02:43] <Voks> Hello?
[02:44] <cfhowlett> !ask | Voks
[02:50] <imVoks> Hello?
[02:52] <imVoks> Chrome plays sounds on startup but when I open a jar file that plays sounds chrome stop playing sounds until I restart anyone have an idea why?
[02:55] <BadDream> imVoks yur sound is set at half duplex perhaps....set it to full duplex
[03:06] <definity> How can i run a program as root when in chroot?
[03:08] <imVoks> BadDream how to I set it to full duplex?
[03:08] <imVoks> I'm looking around and can't find a conclusive answer
[03:41] <DChapman> !patience
[03:41] <s> hello
[03:42] <Guest29045> whats 80
[03:42] <Guest29045> s
[03:43] <eatingthenight> can someone explain the RewriteCond $1 !^voiceCall apache rule to me? I believe it means that is the string starts with anything except voiceCall that the condition is matched?
[03:43] <eatingthenight> but I wanted to confirm
[03:45] <Joel> h
[03:51] <ruben23> hi guys any help my ubuntu server kernel crashed somehow and the server wont both...-----> http://pastebin.com/nBfNKHyC
[03:56] <nameuser_> hello everyone
[04:19] <somsip> eatingthenight: I'd agree
[04:26] <BUSY> what's a simple way to transfer large files between boxes directly connected through an ethernet cord?
[04:26] <somsip> BUSY: scp, possibly using rsync
[04:29] <BUSY> somsip, nothing faster if both machines are local? i'm uninformed about rsync so i'll check into it
[04:29] <kernelhack> BUSY: what's wrong with ssh?
[04:31] <somsip> BUSY: scp is just easy as you don't need to install much. Once negotiation is done, it's all down to connection/NIC/CPU I guess. rsyns will allow continuation if the copy stalls part way through
[04:31] <BUSY> kernelhack, what can i do once into the shell?
[04:33] <kernelhack> BUSY: use midnight commander and you can transfer files using ssh between boxes.
[04:33] <kernelhack> package for installation is called mc
[04:35] <kernelhack> when you're in mc, use the option sftp and enter the ssh credentials of the source machine. then copy the files to the local system. i hope this helps.
[04:39] <CuriousX> Hi there, anyone knows the time Ubuntu 15.10 will be released ? UTM or idk :p
[04:40] <CuriousX> UTC*
[04:40] <somsip> CuriousX: it's released when it's ready. It's often early afternoon EST
[04:40] <kernelhack> not usually a specific time. the answer is usual "when it's ready".
[04:41] <kernelhack> to put it politely, most likely probably any minute/hour from now.
[04:41] <CuriousX> oh! ok, ty guys, i'll just wait :D
[04:42] <CuriousX> kernelhack,  yeah, i am so desperate :D i'm running only windows on a new hard drive, waiting to Ubuntu 15.10 :D
[04:43] <kernelhack> anticipation can be a killer. it's worth the wait. trust me, it's very stable.
[04:43] <CuriousX> i've been 5 days without my ubuntu -.-
[04:44] <ruben23> hi guys any help my ubuntu server kernel crashed somehow and the server wont both...-----> http://pastebin.com/nBfNKHyC
[04:44] <CuriousX> kernelhack, yeah!, i've been using 15.10 since the firt beta, it's pretty stable, but my disk just broke so no more Ubuntu = No more love :D
[04:44] <CuriousX> brb
[04:45] <creep> hey guys
[04:46] <creep> hey
[04:46] <Asta666> hi
[04:46] <creep> sup?
[04:46] <creep> any help?
[04:47] <somsip> creep: this is a support conference. What's your issue?
[04:47] <creep> im having troubles with my mozilla firefox ccrashing everytime i run videos on youtube
[04:57] <BUSY> well, i ended up using scp and the ipv6 of the machines to connect, but that was a hassle because of the oddly unnoted syntax
[04:58] <somsip> BUSY: scp requires some special syntax. Eg: scp -6 osis@\[2001:db8:0:1\]:/home/osis/test.file ./test.file
[04:59] <BUSY> yeah i found that :D thanks though
[05:12] <jeffrey_f> I did sudo apt-get autoremove and for some reason, it removed my GUI's.  Had to reinstall.
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> jeffrey_f: you can purge seperate packages with at-get also
[05:14] <blithen> Dumb question alert: Does anyone know what time normally the release is pushed to the website? Or is it sometime on the 22nd?
[05:14] <jeffrey_f> I'm just curious as to why autoremove (which, to my understanding, removes orphaned packages) killed the GUI's........
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !wily | blithen
[05:15] <blithen> lotuspsychje: Thanks!
[05:17] <zivester> I wrote a script for these days, a long long time ago when i programmed perl: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3pqgwp/a_simple_script_to_automatically_download_the/
[05:28] <YeOLdeDM> I went to boot up my ubuntu machine just now and am not able to boot it up, with a kernel panic error.  I have been looking around online but can't seem to find the particular problem I'm having. can anybody here help me out?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: ubuntu version?
[05:29] <YeOLdeDM> 14.04lts
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: yeah trusty had recent kernel update, try to load up previous kernel from grub
[05:31] <YeOLdeDM> '/sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Input/Output error' is the first line I get
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: try to load your previous kernel, and investigate your logs for errors
[05:32] <YeOLdeDM> how would I go about loading a previous kernel?
[05:32] <roberto_> oiiii
[05:32] <zproc> Does Ubuntu Studio uses Unity too?
[05:33] <zproc> use*
[05:33] <YeOLdeDM> I have no command line or any way to input anything...I boot up, get splash screen, and error
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> !studio | zproc
[05:33] <zproc> yes i'm on the website alreayd
[05:33] <zproc> already*
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: load your previous kernel from grub
[05:36] <YeOLdeDM> I have tried about the previous 4 kernels, no luck so far
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: hmmm, how about you try the recoverymode==>fix broken packages
[05:38] <YeOLdeDM> same error with recovery mode too
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: ouch..that doesnt sound very good, did you do anything unusual recently?
[05:39] <bohemiandan81> hello there
[05:39] <bohemiandan81> new here
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> bohemiandan81: welcome, this channel is for ubuntu support questions
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | bohemiandan81 chat or discuss here
[05:40] <YeOLdeDM> just got the latest updates earlier, before going to bed
[05:40] <YeOLdeDM> and decided to reboot after waking up :P
[05:40] <bohemiandan81> will do ubottu
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: wich release did you have before 14.04?
[05:41] <YeOLdeDM> windows, lol
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: ah it was a fresh install, good
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: so loading all your kernels result in that librt.so error?
[05:42] <YeOLdeDM> I haven't tried them ALL yet, but yeah, that seems to be the common error
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: can you remember wicj grafix card driver you using?
[05:44] <YeOLdeDM> the default mesa drivers provided with ubuntu...anything else causes bad things to happen
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: wich grafix card chipset?
[05:45] <YeOLdeDM> ATI radeon HD5-something-or-another
[05:45] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: run "lspci" in a terminal instead of guessing
[05:46] <somsip> !find mkfs.xfs
[05:46] <YeOLdeDM> I would love to, hateball :)
[05:46] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: Perhaps I have missed part of the conversation, can you not boot at all?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: he cant get into recovery or terminal
[05:46] <hateball> Oh :|
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> hateball: kernel panic@ <YeOLdeDM> '/sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Input/Output error' is the first line I get
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> hateball: it happened after latest trusty kernel update
[05:47] <YeOLdeDM> I power up, get the splash screen, the grub menu, then the error
[05:48] <hateball> YeOLdeDM, lotuspsychje: And you've tried picking an older kernel in grub?
[05:48] <YeOLdeDM> several, yes
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> hateball: even recoverymode result to the same
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> YeOLdeDM: you dindt use the radeon driver for ati?
[05:51] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: Do you have access to the install media?
[05:52] <YeOLdeDM> I am not using any proprietary video card drivers, if that's what you're asking lotuspsychje
[05:52] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: I would try running an fsck against your partitions first, using live media. If you havent already
[05:52] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: If it still refuses to boot, you can try following this guide http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/how-to-fix-non-bootable-ubuntu-system.html
[05:53] <YeOLdeDM> I do have the ubuntu installer (whatever you call it) on a thumb drive
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> hateball: +1 good idea
[05:55] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: As long as it is the same version as you have installed on disk, you can try following the instructions above
[05:56] <YeOLdeDM> I will try that hateball, thank you
[06:09] <nisargtha> guys, any idea about 15.10 release time?
[06:09] <YeOLdeDM> when I try the command 'sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/'  I get the error 'cp: cannot create regular file '/mnt/etc/': Not a directory
[06:10] <YeOLdeDM> and it seems my /mnt folder is empty.  that isn't normal?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> !wily | nisargtha
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nisargtha: during daytime of the 23rd
[06:11] <nisargtha> oh. Thanks guys. I thought it was today. My bad.
[06:11] <rww> 22nd, ne?
[06:14] <nisargtha> !wily
[06:17] <nikolam> where should I make new btrfs subvolume, to stop appearing beside mount point?
[06:17] <YeOLdeDM> "mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /cdrom" is the other problem I run into following hateball's link
[06:17] <nikolam> I made new with btrfs subvolume create /@share  and I get is as /@share and I want it as /share
[06:17] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: I do not think you have your install on sdb
[06:18] <nikolam> I have done set-default on its id but I still have both /share and /@share
[06:18] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: Did you try running an fsck *first*, as I asked?
[06:18] <nikolam> do I make @share somewhere else during creation to make it not appear ?
[06:19] <YeOLdeDM> ah my bad, I'm looking at the wrong output :\
[06:19] <nikolam> e.g. wgere in Ubuntu @ and @home comes from?
[06:19] <nikolam> (they are seen as / and /home)
[06:21] <nikolam> do I also have to put my new subvolume in fstab to be mounted on reboot??
[06:23] <nikolam> also where dop I get aptitude in 14.94?
[06:23] <nikolam> 14.04
[06:24] <YeOLdeDM> hateball fsck returns 'fsck from util-linux 2.20.1"
[06:24] <nikolam> no one uses btrfs? and not care about sbvolumes?
[06:25] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: yes well, you need to supply it parameters. Pastebin me the contents of "sudo fdisk -l"
[06:25] <hateball> !paste | YeOLdeDM
[06:29] <omega-xis> hi there, I upgraded today to 15.10 and it left a few things broken, first of all unity doesn't start after login, I can right-click the desktop open up a terminal and get it to run with unity --replace, but it doesn' t start right away.
[06:29] <omega-xis> second of all bumblebee is broken
[06:29] <omega-xis> how do I get unity to autostart again?
[06:34] <misho_> Hi everyone
[06:34] <misho_> I have a problem...
[06:35] <misho_> I am trying to remove MythTV but afret uninstalling from the left side there is infinitive pops up Restarting Frontend and this is repeating
[06:35] <misho_> What is the command for complete remove of this frontend
[06:35] <misho_> What is the command for complete remove of this frontend?
[06:36] <nikolam> anyone ever made new btrfs subvolume other then @ and @home ?
[06:36] <omega-xis> @misho_ sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv-frontend ?
[06:37] <omega-xis>  unity doesn't start after login, I can right-click the desktop open up a terminal and get it to run with unity --replace, but it doesn' t start right away. how do I get unity to autostart again?
[06:37] <nikolam> how in ubuntu to set new subvolume to mount into desired dir, without using set-default?
[06:38] <nikolam> I mounted in /mnt and made new subvolume then umounted
[06:38] <nikolam> but I want new subvolume into , say /share
[06:39] <nikolam> I understand I have to add it now to fstab, like /home subvolume is ?
[06:39] <nikolam> I "just" have to get subvolume's UUID?
[06:39] <locksmith2> a fake-nice good afternoon to everyone
[06:39] <kazuma_> What are some good programs to use to program with linux?
[06:40] <auronandace> nikolam: blkid
[06:41] <nikolam> thanks, auronandace it just lists them but I can guess whitch uuid is it because there are only 2 of them now
[06:44] <auronandace> nikolam: there is also lsblk --fs
[06:44] <baizon> kazuma_: it depend what you want to program
[06:44] <nikolam> I mounted it to /mnt and made new subvolume there, then unmounted. then made /share dir and then put it now in fstab, but it is saying " special device _UUID_ does not exist"
[06:44] <kazuma_> baizon thanks for your reply really just basic overall any ideas or thoughts would be appreciated ty
[06:47] <CuriousX> kazuma_, webdev ?
[06:47] <hateball> kazuma_: are you looking for an IDE or an editor?
[06:47] <hateball> !details
[06:48] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: when I said paste me, I meant in channel, not pm ;)
[06:48] <YeOLdeDM> ah ok
[06:48] <nikolam> aaah for subvolume in /etc/fstab, it is UUID_SUB, not UUID and I guess UUID actaully stays the same for all subvolumes, just name changes?
[06:49] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: also... I am not sure why you've pasted contents of sudoers rather than what I asked for, namely the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[06:49] <YeOLdeDM> I saw 'sudo -l', gimme one more chance ;)
[06:50] <nikolam> sudo mount share did not complain when uuid for subvolumes is same in fstab
[06:50] <kazuma_> For windows I have used eclispe was just curious if there was a more suitable one for linux or if you guys just perfer one over another
[06:50] <YeOLdeDM> the machine I am chatting from is a freakin dinosaur, and it's hard for me to follow chat
[06:51] <nikolam> so I think I made it. to get new btrfs subvolume  in ubuntu work properly, one need to first mount device to /mnt , make new @subvolume there , unmount, add new subvolume to /etc/fstab, make mounting dir and voila
[06:51] <kazuma_> Was just looking for more of a basic answer nothing set in stone saying one is better than another just what you guys would perfer to use overall?
[06:51] <hateball> YeOLdeDM: well you can just fire up an IRC client of choice from the live-usb, makes things a bit easier since it lets you copy/paste
[06:53] <CuriousX> kazuma_, Eclipse has its own version for Linux too
[06:53] <CuriousX> http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/index.html
[06:53] <hateball> !info eclipse
[06:55] <kazuma_> Yea thanks for linking that I looked it up and saw they did was just curious if you guys used a different one, for instance like back in the day there where programs like mangler for voice chat that I would use on linux verses other windows applications sorry for such the noob question was just trying to get some basic info
[06:56] <shookees> hoi
[06:56] <shookees> when's 15.10 gonna be released
[06:56] <shookees> isn't it technically today?
[06:56] <hateball> !wily | shookees
[06:56] <hateball> err
[06:56] <shookees> oh, thanks ;)
[06:56] <hateball> I recalled it noting the release date, my bad
[07:04] <CuriousX> not pms kazuma_ and, related to the question, idk about general IDEs, but Webdev IDEs, i know Atom and Brackets are used a lot in webdeb comunity
[07:04] <rww> !-wily
[07:04] <rww> !wily =~ s/of Ubuntu./of Ubuntu. It is scheduled for release October 22nd./
[07:05] <rww> hateball: and now it does :3
[07:05] <hateball> rww: :>
[07:06] <zproc> is it OK for instance to instal the meta package gnome desktop over a regular Ubuntu install/desktop?
[07:07] <ismail721> snake
[07:12] <YeOldeDM> alright, I am back on my own machine now
[07:13] <YeOldeDM> here is my fdisk -l:   http://pastebin.com/dBvqgSmD
[07:14] <YeOldeDM> hopefully my brain is working a bit better now that there is some coffee in it ;)
[07:19] <qt-x> hello
[07:20] <qt-x> How can I make changes to keymap done with  setkeycode persistent ?
[07:20] <YeOldeDM> interesting...now when I run chroot /mnt I get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Input/output error"
[07:23] <zarete> hi
[07:24] <qt-x> hi
[07:24] <zarete> any french here ?
[07:24] <SuperTech486> fsdf
[07:29] <bkio> This doesn't make sense: Downgrade the following packages: 1) libxcb-render0 [1.10-3precise1 (now) -> 1.10-2ubuntu1 (trusty)]
[07:31] <bkio> Downgrade from precise to trusty? I'm on trusty now.
[07:31] <YeOldeDM> hateball: I think I'm getting what I'm supposed to be doing here on this link you gave me, but I am still stuck with the chroot step
[07:31] <rww> bkio: you have/had a PPA with a newer version of that library than what's in the official repositories
[07:32] <auronandace> bkio: it probably thinks it is a downgrade due to the version number of the package, 3 is greater than 2
[07:35] <bkio> ok, i'll check what could be causing it
[07:40]  * creep_ 
[07:40]  * LOfP 
[07:40] <bkio> this is a disabled ppa right? /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list.disabled
[07:40] <LOfP> looks like that
[07:41] <LOfP> .disabled means disabled
[07:41] <bkio> ok, so that had precise in it. other than that everything is trusty
[07:41] <LOfP> ya
[07:42] <LOfP> hey guys what all are expected in sysadmin job interview?
[07:43] <locksmith2> 6 fingers on each hand
[07:46] <hateball> YeOldeDM: Right, are you still here?
[07:47] <YeOldeDM> hateball yes
[07:47] <YeOldeDM> trying the whole process a third time, for the charm
[07:47] <hateball> YeOldeDM: If you're on the live session still, run "sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1"
[07:48] <hateball> YeOldeDM: If you've tried mounting and such, then fsck will fail if the partition is still mounted
[07:48] <YeOldeDM> it failed..so is that good?
[07:48] <creep> wow so many people
[07:48] <creep> haha
[07:48] <hateball> YeOldeDM: Just means it's mounted. Easiest is to just reboot and then issue the command soon as you get to the desktop again
[07:49] <YeOldeDM> alright, brb
[07:57] <YeOldeDM> okay, fsck gave me back a big bunch of stuff now..are you going to want that output hateball?
[07:57] <hateball> YeOldeDM: Pastebin it if you like
[07:57] <kernelhack> YeOldeDM: pastebin it.
[07:58] <kernelhack> errr, sorry. lol
[07:59] <YeOldeDM> http://pastebin.com/Zuwpbk0D
[08:00] <hateball> YeOldeDM: neat. Now try booting your system normally, see if fsck fixed it up
[08:01] <YeOldeDM> alright...wish me luck ;)
[08:01] <colo-work> hi. my laptop's "suspend to ram" feature is broken (suspending works, but resuming doesn't) in the BIOS, and won't ever get fixed. is there a way that I can force Ubuntu's desktop to NOT show me the "broken" suspend option; only hibernate?
[08:02] <marlo_> i'm trying to set aliases root: to user1@outsideaddress, user2@outsideaddress but emails are only being sent to the first email address listed
[08:02] <the_drow> Is there a release party channel for us to join?
[08:03] <the_drow> Can't wait to try the new 4.x kernel
[08:03] <somsip> !15.10 | the_drow
[08:03] <hateball> colo-work: google suggests https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit/+bug/1300460/comments/3 but I havent tried this myself
[08:04] <the_drow> somsip: Thanks
[08:04] <colo-work> hateball, thanks! I'll try this.
[08:06] <marlo_> never mind, i'm stupid
[08:08] <the_drow> Is snappy going to be for ubuntu core only?
[08:08] <YeOldeDM> hateball: no luck. I get the same error on startup I was getting before
[08:11] <bill_lx> need an install only iso -not Netinstall - not live
[08:14] <Iresf> hi
[08:14] <hateball> YeOldeDM: Well. Since you had a damaged filesystem, it may be in order to check your disk for physical errors. Is this an old or new machine?
[08:14] <Iresf> my dvd writer can not read dvd or cd in ubuntu 14.04 please help me to solve this problem
[08:14] <YeOldeDM> it's an old machine, but the hard drive is fairly new
[08:16] <YeOldeDM> the HDD is ~6 months old or so...and everything was working fine a few hours ago...it seems strange it would just brick like that :P
[08:17] <hateball> YeOldeDM: Things tend to work until they stop, regardless of how long
[08:17] <YeOldeDM> true...I am just bummed
[08:18] <hateball> YeOldeDM: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[08:18] <hateball> pastebin the output
[08:18] <hateball> well, not the apt-stuff, just... what smartctl reports
[08:18] <YeOldeDM> hateball: gotcha
[08:18] <Iresf> how can i enable dvd-writer on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[08:19]  * YeOldeDM needs to 'sudo apt-get buy new-computer' ;)
[08:19] <R_T> i'm trying to recover files from a wubi dualboot system, seems like everything was in home.disk root.disk and 2 other .disk files. I just cant seem to find a way to open those .disk files on linux
[08:20] <TheShagg> anywyone know why my proc filesystem doesn't have net.core.rmem_max  ?
[08:21] <hateball> R_T: you need to mount them
[08:22] <hateball> R_T: so just mdkir /tmp/something, then mount -o loop /path/to/file.disk /tmp/something
[08:22] <TheShagg> dolp, my shell was in a network namespace
[08:22] <R_T> ah thanks
[08:24] <YeOldeDM> hateball: I am at a 'Postfix configuration' menu after doing that. which option do I choose?
[08:24] <hateball> YeOldeDM: euh... just go with defaults
[08:24] <hateball> it's a silly dependency that
[08:25] <YeOldeDM> hateball: It just bounces between the menu and another panel that explains the menu :P
[08:25] <YeOldeDM> unless there is a 'quit' command or something I am missing
[08:26] <hateball> YeOldeDM: <enter>
[08:26] <hateball> move about with arrows, tick boxes with space
[08:26] <hateball> I dont recall what the menu looks like, but it's a standard ncurses interface I guess
[08:26] <YeOldeDM> hateball: its msdos-like, if that's not a heretical comparison ;)
[08:27] <YeOldeDM> hitting enter goes to the first window, hitting esc goes to the menu...that is all the commands I can find so far
[08:28] <YeOldeDM> spacebar doesn't seem to do anything
[08:28] <mcphail> YeOldeDM: You will probably be able to get to an "Apply" button or similar by using the tab key
[08:28] <newradio> how do i change the shortcut for trash can - Super + t - to point to terminal?
[08:29] <YeOldeDM> http://s30.postimg.org/69otm745t/Screenshot_from_2015_10_22_08_28_16.png   that is what it looks like
[08:30] <YeOldeDM> aha, tab does stuff
[08:31] <newradio> anyone?
[08:34] <YeOldeDM> hateball:  http://pastebin.com/tJTecjZe
[08:37] <hateball> YeOldeDM: well it looks fine to me
[08:38] <hateball> YeOldeDM: I don't really know what more you can do from here, other than try the chroot path to repair/upgrade packages. Or backup your userdata and reinstall.
[08:38] <YeOldeDM> would a re-install of the OS be an option?  backing up what I need would be a pain, but not impossible
[08:38] <hateball> YeOldeDM: Well sadly you do not have /home on its own partition, if you did it would be dead simple
[08:39] <newradio> anyone understands keyboard shortcuts on ubuntu?
[08:39] <baizon> newradio: yes
[08:39] <newradio> hi baizon
[08:39] <newradio> I want to reassign super+t to open a terminal
[08:40] <newradio> baizon: cant do it using the keyboard gui in the control panel
[08:40] <newradio> baizon: commandline?
[08:41] <shwouchk> hello
[08:42] <shwouchk> I'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04, but I can't get any of the tools that do this to recognize the new distro
[08:44] <baizon> shwouchk: you cant upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04, you have to upgrade 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04
[08:44] <baizon> newradio: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/35688/how-can-i-change-unitys-super-t-binding-to-something-else
[08:44] <newradio> baizon: i read that
[08:45] <baizon> newradio: you have to remove super as standard key, then you can reassign super +t for terminal
[08:46] <newradio> baizon: how do i do this? (using preferably a sane api?)
[08:46] <newradio> it should be that a list of keyboard shortcuts - that is searchable - and one can just point to the one wants to change - and change it - it looks insane?
[08:46] <shwouchk> baizon: thanks. Actually I figured out what the problem is - for some reason changing settings in update-manager does not work. I changed it manually via vim and now the tools recognize a new version (15.04 right away by the way). Now the problem is that the server that I'm supposed to use doesn't carry it for some reason.
[08:47] <mcphail> shwouchk: If you try to update straight to 15.04, you will break your system
[08:48] <shwouchk> mcphail: that's what ubuntu's upgrade tool wants to do however. What is your alternative suggestion?
[08:48] <baizon> shwouchk: then you did something wrong when you did "changed it manually"
[08:48] <mcphail> shwouchk: reinstall. There is no supported upgrade path from 14.04 to 15.04 as 14.10 is eond-of-life
[08:48] <baizon> shwouchk: what does do-release-upgrade report?
[08:49] <baizon> mcphail: ou ok, then yes shwouchk you have to do a reinstall
[08:49] <hateball> !eolupgrade
[08:49] <baizon> forgot about eol
[08:51] <shwouchk> baizon: did nothing wrong when I "manually changed it". just changed the setting from lts to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[08:51] <mcphail> shwouchk: read the link hateball asked ubottu to post. The 14.10 servers are down. You'd need to tweak that
[08:52] <shwouchk> also, since you claim I should reinstall, I obviously have nothing to lose (other than half an hour of my time)
[08:52] <shwouchk> by doing -> 15.04
[08:52] <mcphail> shwouchk: well, enjoy that
[08:53] <shwouchk> mcphail: If that won't work I'll just change to a distro that doesn't throw me under the bus every 6 months
[08:54] <mcphail> shwouchk: up to you. 14.04 is still supported and will be for a long time yet
[08:54] <shwouchk> so it is not in EOL
[08:54] <mcphail> shwouchk: no - 14.04 is a LTS release
[08:55] <mcphail> shwouchk: if you don't want to be thrown under any bus, stick with LTS
[08:55] <shwouchk> mcphail: I know that. I'm saying that baizon/hateball's claim that it is in EOL is not correct.
[08:55] <hateball> shwouchk: I'm not saying 14.04 is EOL
[08:55] <mcphail> shwouchk: 14.10 is EOL, and the only safe way to upgrade to 15.04 is via 14.10
[08:56] <shwouchk> mcphail: will I have a safe way to upgrade to *something* when support runs out?
[08:56] <mcphail> shwouchk: you will be able to upgrade direct from 14.04 to 16.04
[08:56] <hateball> You will be taken straight to 16.04 when it is released, as that is the next LTS
[08:56] <hateball> !lts
[08:58] <shwouchk> in that case, fine, I'll just wait.
[08:58] <mcphail> shwouchk: and be aware that 15.04 will be out of support in 3 months. 15.10 is about to be released and would be a better target if you want newer packages. Again, though, there is no direct upgrade path from 14.04
[08:59] <YeOldeDM> hateball: thank you again for your help. I am just biting the bullet and backing-up/restoring.
[09:00] <hateball> YeOldeDM: if you like, you can choose to do manual partitioning during this install and put /home on its own. Simplifies things if your system decides to murder itself again
[09:00] <alpaca_sida_xD> UBUNTUUU LOCUUU
[09:00] <alpaca_sida_xD> TENIU SIDA O NO?
[09:01] <YeOldeDM> hateball: I will certainly look into that
[09:01] <cfhowlett> alpaca_sida_xD, good way to get /ignored
[09:01] <alpaca_sida_xD> NOOOOO
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !es |
[09:01] <alpaca_sida_xD> GOOD BYE
[09:02] <sida> d
[09:03] <sida> simon
[09:06] <Moz_> ho all. I can correctly set my environment variable for python when I SSH to a server by running "export PYTHONPATH=mypath" but how do I set it for a service? Do I need to set it in the init.d conf and how would I do that?
[09:08] <baizon> Moz_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[09:09] <Moz_> bhavesh, thanks, I'll see if I can find something in there. the system wide env variable using profile.d looks like it will probabaly work for what I want
[09:11] <bhavesh> Moz_: er, what? I suppose that was not meant for me
[09:11] <Moz_> bhavesh, ah yes sorry.
[09:11] <Moz_> baizon, thanks, I'll see if I can find something in there. the system wide env variable using profile.d looks like it will probabaly work for what I want
[09:11] <Moz_> :)
[09:14] <baizon> Moz_: yep, that should work
[09:25] <guga> excuse me for my english... could you help me, please... which mistakes i can make when i'll be install ubuntu server at my home pc? don't throw stones at me...
[09:26] <Innokenty> most
[09:27] <cfhowlett> !server | guga
[09:29] <guga> cfhowlett: yes, server
[09:30] <cfhowlett> guga, ask the other channel.
[09:30] <Innokenty> test in virtualbox
[09:30] <somsip> guga: install desktop on a home PC, and server on a server. Use minimal if you want a small install on a home PC and add to it
[09:30] <somsip> !test | Innokenty
[09:30] <Innokenty> lel
[09:31] <RepThis1> hey guys, I have gnome installed on my machine but switched over to kde-standard and was wondering how do i wipe/purge or completely remove all traces of gnome? Reading about it there are many different suggestions such as: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge gnome, sudo apt-get autoremove gnome*, or a very specific process like sudo apt-get autoremove gdm3 before running sudo apt-get autoremove --purge gnome*
[09:31] <somsip> RepThis1: IME, tricky and not worth bothering with
[09:31] <wakko123> d
[09:32] <wakko123> does anyone l´know if LUKS is good for OSX
[09:32] <somsip> RepThis1: Though there may be a post on PsychoCats that has some suggestions...
[09:32] <somsip> !ot | wakko123 (this is ubuntu, not osx)
[09:32] <cfhowlett> wakko123, ask #lsx
[09:32] <wakko123> aa thanks
[09:32] <RepThis1> somsip:  IME?
[09:33] <somsip> RepThis1: In My Experience. Have a read of this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[09:33] <wakko123> ok then help me out witch is the best security program for ubuntu when it comes to firewall vpn etc
[09:33] <cfhowlett> !ufw | wakko123
[09:33] <somsip> RepThis1: and read carefully as it is out of date
[09:36] <sjoshi> !isitout
[09:38] <RepThis1> If i actually had the time i would read up on the commands that find its dependencies and save that and diff compare afterwards and look for commands that automatically run and look for child objects or w/e, but if i did that for everything(the methodology of it) i'd move pretty slow. I'm prob just gonna hope the developers know what they were doing and use more of the automated commands. Not a big fan of how that suggested page approaches, s
[09:38] <RepThis1> ounds and looks to be hit or miss unfortunately.
[09:38] <somsip> RepThis1: hence my original statement
[09:39] <RepThis1> somsip: yeah, thx though. ill bookmark this page if its suppose to have other insightful information.
[09:45] <meowkat> hello?
[09:46] <OnceMe> Hello, I started win8 install from uefi usb bios and now I purged all partitions
[09:47] <OnceMe> does that mean Im getting UEFI partitions now? and linux ubuntu will recognize and install uefi ones?
[09:47] <meowkat> looks like you need to reinstall windows
[09:47] <OnceMe> EriC^^:you here? :D
[09:47] <EriC^^> hey, yeah
[09:47] <OnceMe> meowkat:yes thats what Im doing
[09:47] <EriC^^> what's up?
[09:47] <OnceMe> but I dont want to end up with broken partitions like I used t ohve
[09:47] <meowkat> just press next i should format them if you already deleted them
[09:48] <OnceMe> EriC^^:I booted from usb in uefi mode and purged all partitions
[09:48] <meowkat> it*
[09:48] <OnceMe> meowkat:well I purged them and Im in win8 disk partitioned
[09:48] <OnceMe> and I see Drive 0 Unallocated space: 930GB
[09:48] <OnceMe> so I guess I need to make at least two disks, one system reserved and second ntfs
[09:49] <EriC^^> OnceMe: let it partition by itself
[09:49] <OnceMe> EriC^^:?
[09:49] <OnceMe> isnt win8 then going to use all 931GB of disk?
[09:49] <OnceMe> if I dont partition unallocated space?
[09:50] <EriC^^> OnceMe: you can shrink it later in win8
[09:50] <OnceMe> ok but why to do this when I can do it right now
[09:50] <OnceMe> since im in partition maanger?
[09:51] <OnceMe> EriC^^:I'm confused, I mean why to delegate something I can do right now
[09:52] <renan> How can one see what is/will be included in the next version of Ubuntu (16.04), like their packages and versions?
[09:52] <EriC^^> OnceMe: if you can let win8 partition as it wants, and then shrink in the partitioner go ahead
[09:53] <Guest30191> Hello
[09:53] <OnceMe> hmm win8 partitioner made me 4 new partitions :O
[09:54] <OnceMe> one with 300GB which is fine and one for recovery one for system and one is msr (reserved)
[09:54] <OnceMe> is this good or bad?
[09:54] <OnceMe> I have 600GB of unallocated space though
[09:55] <OnceMe> EriC^^:is this fine should I proceed?
[09:55] <OnceMe> and also this is uefi, correct?
[09:55] <EriC^^> if you want 600 for ubuntu yeah
[09:55] <OnceMe> ok, installing win8 ;)
[09:56] <OnceMe> and now I need to dl ubuntu
[09:56] <OnceMe> Im thinking between 14.04 and 15.04
[09:56] <OnceMe> why would I go with older ubuntu?
[09:56] <OnceMe> whats wrong with 15.04?
[09:56] <OnceMe> I guess 15.05 have the latest repos and such..?
[09:56] <OnceMe> 04*
[09:56] <OnceMe> !15.04
[09:57] <OnceMe> !14.04
[09:57] <bekks> OnceMe: How many weeks will we have to discuss that 14.04/15.04 since it was explained in detail to you yesterday? :)
[09:58] <OnceMe> I never asked for 15.04
[09:58] <OnceMe> I was always recommended 14.04 without any further discussion :)
[09:58] <gdm85> hi there. I am trying to install Ubuntu on a macbook pro, however only the desktop amd64 usb is seen by refind (not even mac-amd64). I could start this amd64 install with nomodeset, but it gets stuck after DKMS :(
[09:58] <gdm85> definitely not the first time I see this issue with installs..
[09:58] <bekks> OnceMe: Yeah, since it was LTS, which you admitted is what you want :)
[10:00] <Symbolite> gu
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !mac | gdm85
[10:13] <kleinric> Is there any indication of what time 15.10 will be released today?
[10:13] <bekks> at done'o'clock ;)
[10:13] <kleinric> lol, thanks :P
[10:14] <Ben64> shouldn't the topic be updated to reflect that
[10:15] <kleinric> that would make sense, I'd imagine that a lot of people will be here asking that...
[10:15] <Ben64> hmm, its actually not coming up on ubuntu.com
[10:15] <Ben64> !isitoutyet
[10:15] <Ben64> ubottu: you said yes in #ubuntu-offtopic you liar!
[10:17] <apollo_> hi averyone
[10:18] <apollo_> how to install steam client?
[10:19] <Ben64> open ubuntu software center, search for steam, install it
[10:20] <brainwash> !steam
[10:20] <apollo_> ill do that, he was installed but dont run... (
[10:21] <apollo_> ubuntu i386 (x86) MATE desktop environment, maybe need install 64-bit version ubuntu?
[10:22] <OnceMe> uhm when I boot from usb uefi and select install ubuntu I get a black screen for 2 mins and then Ignoring BGRT: invalid status 0 ACPI PCC probe failed. radeon Invalid rom contents and get BusyBox initramfs Unable to finda  medium containig live file system
[10:22] <OnceMe> what is happening>
[10:22] <bekks> your install medium is broken most likely.
[10:23] <OnceMe> no its not
[10:24] <OnceMe> I just burned it from iso
[10:24] <bekks> Which doesnt mean it isnt broken.
[10:24] <avu> have you checked the hash?
[10:24] <bekks> It just means you just created it.
[10:24] <OnceMe> I have two graphic cards
[10:24] <apollo_> do you try install other PC (machine) ? if problem stay that distr files bad
[10:24] <OnceMe> problem is with my graphic cards for sure
[10:25] <OnceMe> I dont get usual ubuntu install screen but instead I get GNU Grub
[10:25] <bekks> OnceMe: If you know better - why do you ask?
[10:25] <bekks> OnceMe: Did you compare the checksums?
[10:26] <apollo_> what a videocards you have?
[10:26] <gdm85> cfhowlett: I've read that, no dice
[10:26] <OnceMe> apollo_:video cards?
[10:26] <OnceMe> You mean GPU?
[10:26] <apollo_> yes
[10:26] <bekks> OnceMe: Did you compare the checksums?
[10:27] <OnceMe> no
[10:27] <apollo_> aaa
[10:27] <OnceMe> how to do that under windows bekks?
[10:27] <bekks> OnceMe: Do do it.
[10:27] <apollo_> GPU is a graphic processor unit
[10:27] <apollo_> on a video card have GPU + memory and RCB xD )))
[10:27] <bekks> OnceMe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[10:29] <apollo_> nice chat )
[10:29] <mote> Wasn't Wily supposed to be released today??
[10:29] <bekks> !isitoutyet
[10:29] <Ben64> sometime in the next 24hrs
[10:29] <jdrumheller> it' out.
[10:29] <Gamoder_> Hi everyone, is it possible to, using a ssh connect, tempoarily connect to a different WLAN, execute some command and then reconnecting to the old WLAN? While being temporaily connected to the other WLAN there would maybe be no internet connection
[10:29] <Gamoder_> (Ubuntu 14.04)
[10:29] <jdrumheller> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/
[10:29] <Ben64> it isn't actually
[10:30] <avu> jdrumheller: the images being there doesn't mean it's released
[10:30] <apollo_> i think this chat a help chat )))))))
[10:30] <bekks> Gamoder_: Sure, do it manually.
[10:30] <mote> jdrumheller: thanks. is it the final?
[10:30] <avu> mote: we don't know. it's not released yet.
[10:31] <Gamoder_> bekks: Yeah, but the problem is: If I code something myself for that, I probably make an error preventing me to reconnect to my old wlan then then I have no connection any more
[10:31] <gdm85> is it possible to start the curses install with this desktop install dvd?
[10:31] <Gamoder_> so if there is a standard, surely working solution I would prefer it
[10:31] <bekks> Gamoder_: There is no other chance than doing it manually.
[10:31] <mote> Are there a 'usual' time on the release day?
[10:32] <bekks> mote: No.
[10:32] <Gamoder_> why? There could be a script doing it where I would just have to add the commands I want to use and it could interactively ask for the other wlan connection or so
[10:33] <bekks> Gamoder_: If you suspect a script existing for it already, you have to search for it, since you dont like the answer you got.
[10:33] <jdrumheller> how could it not  be out, when the hashes for the isos are posted?
[10:33] <mote> one should think there are some release party or something
[10:33] <jdrumheller> ece816e12f97018fa3d4974b5fd27337 *ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:33] <jdrumheller> 7d483b990de4e1369b76b7b693737191 *ubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:33] <jdrumheller> fb4eef05edcabfc5cccd4cb44f3f9b48 *ubuntu-15.10-server-amd64.iso
[10:33] <jdrumheller> 0d9ee8b0b0205a8487d6ed8785ee63a8 *ubuntu-15.10-server-i386.iso
[10:33] <bekks> jdrumheller: image sync process still in progress?
[10:33] <Gamoder_> I don't know if such a thing exists, thus I am asking here ...
[10:33] <hateball> Perhaps hashes are faster to post than to replicate ISOs across all mirrors
[10:33] <avu> jdrumheller: that's not how releases work. after the "final" images are built, there is still QA to be done
[10:34] <avu> jdrumheller: once that's finished and all the mirrors have the correct images, the actual release happens
[10:34] <bulkorok> hi. I try to install kamailio and kamailio-mysql-modules on trusty. Dependencies say I need mysql-client, which can't be installed because I have mysql-client-5.6 already installed but mysql-client points to mysql-client-5.5. I have to use 5.6, so what can I do?!
[10:35] <gdm85> by choosing reinstall Ubuntu, it screwed up all the partitions (not just the ubuntu partitions). nice
[10:36] <OnceMe> well try ubuntu live work
[10:36] <mote> There are usually an official release statment
[10:36] <OnceMe> so I dont see how could disk be broken
[10:36] <bekks> OnceMe: Did you compare the checksums?
[10:36] <OnceMe> however I still see ubuntu disk in bios, why?
[10:36] <OnceMe> I dont hve ubuntu installed yet
[10:36] <OnceMe> and I purged all partitions
[10:36] <bekks> OnceMe: Did you compare the checksums?
[10:37] <Patte> hi
[10:37] <mote> guess i will wait some more, on central EU
[10:37] <bekks> mote: Just wait until it is released :)
[10:38] <Patte> can i install ubuntu on 2nd hdd with its own ESP?
[10:38] <mote> bekks. hate waiting for stuff. ;-)
[10:38] <bekks> Patte: Whats "ESP" in the context of installing Ubuntu?
[10:39] <Patte> bekks: ESP = Efi System Partition
[10:39] <OnceMe> Internal Server Error
[10:39] <OnceMe> for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[10:39] <OnceMe> how to check it?
[10:39] <bekks> OnceMe: BY reading the link I gave you.
[10:41] <Quellel> hi, i've almost finished my rpi config. I found a backup (rsync) script, which can stop services before backing up data, but unfortonatly it can't stop kodi. Backups will good, when the kodi is running? sudo service kodi stop doesn't work form console too. I won't make backup about kodi, only other folders.
[10:42] <OnceMe> md5 checksums are the same
[10:43] <OnceMe> now whats next?
[10:44] <bekks> OnceMe: Which checksums did you compare?
[10:45] <OnceMe> ubuntu 14.04-4 desktop amd64
[10:45] <OnceMe> and that is fine, however hmm
[10:45] <bekks> That are just fragments of a possible answer.
[10:45] <OnceMe> I now booted into efi mode and I get graphical interface
[10:45] <OnceMe> Im not sure what is happening
[10:45] <OnceMe> UEFI doesnt work, EFI works fine
[10:45] <EriC^^> Patte: yeah you can
[10:45] <bekks> UEFI is the same as EFI.
[10:46] <EriC^^> ugh
[10:46] <OnceMe> then im fine installing ubuntu while in efi?
[10:46] <EriC^^> this is like a bad cassette player
[10:46] <OnceMe> I just dont want to end up with the same system I had
[10:46] <bekks> OnceMe: Since your computer uses EFI - you HAVE to install it in EFI mode.
[10:47] <OnceMe> how come I installed win8 in UEFI?
[10:47] <EriC^^> OnceMe: type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi if the files exist you're booted in uefi mode, install ubuntu as usual and you should be good
[10:47] <bekks> OnceMe: So how is that relevant to your current issue?
[10:47] <OnceMe> EriC^^:where to type that? on a live session?
[10:47] <EriC^^> OnceMe: uefi is efi, as opposed to legacy
[10:47] <bazhang> OnceMe, Uefi and Efi are the same
[10:47] <OnceMe> also hmm Installation type says this: This computer currently has no detected operating systems ,what would you like to do?
[10:47] <OnceMe> How come, I have win8 installed.
[10:48] <bekks> OnceMe: you installed Win 8.1 in legacy mode.
[10:48] <bazhang> OnceMe, can you see what I just typed, please respond
[10:48] <OnceMe> bekks:so is that bad?
[10:48] <EriC^^> OnceMe: can you type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[10:48] <Dyzem> Currently dual-booting Win10 and Ubuntu and wanting to know what the easiest way of having shared files (work, movies etc) between the two are? I've seen a few guides on Ext2Fsd, reading/writing from one /home/ or a shared drive.
[10:48] <bekks> OnceMe: Answer the question of EriC^^.
[10:48] <OnceMe> EriC^^:under live session?
[10:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:49] <bazhang> shared drive Dyzem of ntfs
[10:49] <OnceMe> EriC^^: termbin.com/quws
[10:50] <Dyzem> bazhang, thanks. And there's nothing else I need to do to it, just a formatted NTFS drive should do?
[10:50] <bazhang> Dyzem, correct
[10:50] <OnceMe> is win8 in legacy mode? I dont know why is that so, but I booted usb in UEFI mode
[10:50] <Dyzem> bazhang, great.
[10:51] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, in the ubuntu installer choose Something else
[10:51] <EriC^^> OnceMe: did you try ls -l /sys/firmware/efi ?
[10:51] <OnceMe> ok and what about this /dev/sdb warning?
[10:51] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to not-forward a special key combination like Super+Space (for switching keyboard layouts) to the remote screen in xvnc4viewer’s fullscreen mode?
[10:51] <EriC^^> it's for the usb i think, you only have one hdd right?
[10:51] <OnceMe> EriC^^:yes
[10:51] <OnceMe> no such file or directoryt
[10:51] <OnceMe> EriC^^:yes only one
[10:52] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so you're booted in legacy mode, reboot the live usb in uefi mode
[10:52] <OnceMe> EriC^^:when I reboot into uefi mode I cannot do anything
[10:52] <OnceMe> I dont get graphical interface
[10:52] <OnceMe> I get that error I pasted above
[10:52] <EriC^^> OnceMe: what do you get?
[10:52] <OnceMe> initrfams
[10:52] <EriC^^> can you repaste it?
[10:52] <EriC^^> paste.ubuntu.com
[10:52] <OnceMe> uhm when I boot from usb uefi and select install ubuntu I get a black screen for 2 mins and then Ignoring BGRT: invalid status 0 ACPI PCC probe failed. radeon Invalid rom contents and get BusyBox initramfs Unable to finda  medium containig live file system
[10:53] <OnceMe> there is that
[10:53] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, how did you make the live usb?
[10:53] <OnceMe> using poweriso
[10:53] <EriC^^> try using linuxlive
[10:53] <karanvir> Use lili linux live usb creator
[10:53] <karanvir> or rufus
[10:53] <OnceMe> is that linux or windows tool?
[10:54] <karanvir> Windows tool
[10:54] <EriC^^> OnceMe: or better yet, where is the iso stored right now? windows?
[10:54] <OnceMe> yes
[10:54] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[10:54] <OnceMe> ?
[10:54] <EriC^^> OnceMe: type that command in a terminal
[10:54] <OnceMe> under live session?
[10:55] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:55] <OnceMe> Im right now on windows
[10:55] <EriC^^> ok, try linux live
[10:55] <OnceMe> the ntfs partition is not in the safe state
[10:55] <karanvir> *usb creator
[10:55] <EriC^^> OnceMe: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[10:55] <Lionyx> Hello!
[10:56] <EriC^^> OnceMe: you're confusing me, are you in the live session or not?
[10:56] <Lionyx> Progressing with a issue I had yestarday (and I still have): wlan0 (built-in card) doesn't connect to my Workplace wifi! but if i put in a dongle wlan1, it's all ok!!! Someone told me to use dmesg to monitor something. Well, here you go: http://pastebin.com/wyaSKsUx
[10:56] <OnceMe> linux iso is under windows
[10:56] <OnceMe> Im in live session
[10:56] <Lionyx> The problem appears on the first part of the paste. After by some miracle. It connects!!! Can anybody help? tks!
[10:56] <OnceMe> but im going to kil since I need to
[10:56] <OnceMe> ok using linuxliveusb
[10:56] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, but you're booted in the ubuntu live session right now? right?
[10:56] <OnceMe> not anymore
[10:56] <EriC^^> ok
[10:56] <OnceMe> as you said to remake usb
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:00] <OnceMe> linux live usb is not even recognizing my usb
[11:00] <EriC^^> OnceMe: try to format it in windows
[11:00] <OnceMe> well under windows it does not recognize my usb
[11:00] <dd> est time 15.10?
[11:01] <bekks> dd: done'o'clock
[11:01] <bazhang> !isitout
[11:01] <bazhang> !party | dd
[11:02] <OnceMe> EriC^^:any other tool?
[11:02] <EriC^^> OnceMe: i'd boot the live session again and use dd
[11:02] <EriC^^> OnceMe: restart windows ( don't shutdown )
[11:02] <EriC^^> and boot into it
[11:02] <OnceMe> ok
[11:04] <ducasse> bazhang: 15.10 _is_ out, just downloaded it.
[11:04] <bazhang> ducasse, no its not
[11:04] <ducasse> bazhang: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/
[11:05] <OnceMe> EriC^^:hmm win8 runned repait automatic tool
[11:05] <OnceMe> becase I set hdd to run in uefi irst
[11:05] <OnceMe> maybe my win8 is now uefi and not in legacy mode anymore?
[11:05] <EriC^^> OnceMe: your win8 is in uefi, it always was i think
[11:05] <OnceMe> you said it was in legacy mode?
[11:06] <EriC^^> no i didn't
[11:06] <OnceMe> anyway should I now boot from uefi or not for live ubuntu session?
[11:06] <EriC^^> if you can get it to boot in uefi that'd be great
[11:07] <OnceMe> ok trying
[11:07] <EriC^^> if not try booting in legacy, you can either try making the live usb again with dd, or install in legacy mode and later convert
[11:07] <OnceMe> but yeah I cant the same error I used to have
[11:07] <OnceMe> actually wait a sec
[11:07] <OnceMe> ok booted in uefi
[11:07] <foix> hola
[11:07] <foix> hello
[11:07] <Lionyx> since I'll be handling Debian for my installed system from now, i'll continue this issue there. tks
[11:07] <Lionyx> bye
[11:07] <OnceMe> EriC^^:but I didnt checked try ubuntu first
[11:07] <OnceMe> I went str8 to install ubuntu
[11:08] <OnceMe> should I go back?
[11:08] <EriC^^> OnceMe: try pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[11:08] <EriC^^> login as "ubuntu" and no password
[11:08] <OnceMe> I see in /efi/ dirs
[11:08] <freeroute> is it happening? Did it happen already?
[11:08] <EriC^^> OnceMe: in ls -l /sys/firmware/efi ?
[11:09] <OnceMe> yap
[11:09] <OnceMe> and I also mounted /dev/sda4 too
[11:09] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, install as usual then
[11:09] <EriC^^> OnceMe: no need to mount /dev/sda4
[11:09] <OnceMe> ok
[11:09] <EriC^^> type sudo umount /dev/sda4
[11:09] <OnceMe> Ill restart
[11:09] <OnceMe> because I entered try ubuntu
[11:09] <OnceMe> not ubuntu install
[11:09] <EriC^^> it's ok
[11:09] <EriC^^> click on install ubuntu on the desktop
[11:10] <OnceMe> too late I already restarted ;(
[11:10] <EriC^^> you need to slow down a bit :D
[11:11] <OnceMe> ok so ctrl alt f1
[11:12] <EriC^^> OnceMe: step by step
[11:12] <bekks> No need to.
[11:12] <EriC^^> did you press try ubuntu?
[11:12] <OnceMe> no
[11:12] <OnceMe> install ubuntu in uefi mode
[11:12] <EriC^^> ok press it
[11:12] <EriC^^> if you have that option, go for it
[11:12] <OnceMe> ok step by step im booting ubuntu in uefi mode
[11:12] <OnceMe> so to press try ubuntu without installing
[11:13] <OnceMe> or Install Ubuntu ?
[11:13] <OnceMe> I have OEM and Check disc for defects options too
[11:13] <OnceMe> EriC^^:?
[11:13] <EriC^^> you have a grub menu right now? ( black and white text ) ?
[11:13] <OnceMe> yes
[11:13] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, great, press install ubuntu
[11:13] <OnceMe> ok got graphical interface now
[11:14] <OnceMe> with langauges and that
[11:14] <OnceMe> should I do ctrl alrt f1 now?
[11:14] <EriC^^> no
[11:14] <OnceMe> ok
[11:14] <EriC^^> that's irrelevant now
[11:14] <OnceMe> why?
[11:14] <OnceMe> are you 100% sure im in uefi ? and have that in /efi?
[11:14] <EriC^^> yes
[11:14] <bekks> Because you did earlier andprovided the informationen earlier.
[11:14] <EriC^^> with uefi you get a grub menu
[11:14] <OnceMe> ok
[11:15] <OnceMe> good, now to hit download updates and install this third party I guess?
[11:15] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:15] <OnceMe> ok even better
[11:15] <OnceMe> now ubuntu recognizes my win8
[11:15] <OnceMe> it says This computer currently has Windows boot Manager on it
[11:15] <OnceMe> What would you like to do?
[11:15] <OnceMe> Install ubuntu alongside windows boot manager
[11:15] <OnceMe> something else or erase disk and install ubuntu :D
[11:16] <EriC^^> install alongside
[11:16] <OnceMe> so I wont partition anything?
[11:16] <OnceMe> it will do it for me? will use free unallocated space fully?
[11:16] <EriC^^> no, it'll take care of everything using the free space
[11:16] <OnceMe> no separate /home /boot /efi / ?
[11:16] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:16] <EriC^^> no, just a "/"
[11:16] <freeroute> wait, I might have missed the whole thing, but why not install Ubuntu in a VM instead?
[11:16] <OnceMe> ok, so thats better?
[11:16] <EriC^^> and swap
[11:16] <EriC^^> freeroute: please not now, we're so close
[11:17] <EriC^^> lol :P
[11:17] <freeroute> EriC^^: lol ok :p
[11:17] <OnceMe> so I have ext4 which is fine
[11:17] <OnceMe> and partition 6 as swap
[11:17] <OnceMe> but I dont see size of partitions anywhere..
[11:17] <EriC^^> OnceMe: it's ok, it'll use it all
[11:17] <OnceMe> whayts default for swap?
[11:17] <EriC^^> and swap will be as big as your ram
[11:17] <OnceMe> ok I have 8GB of ram
[11:18] <EriC^^> that's ok
[11:18] <OnceMe> and now hmm
[11:18] <OnceMe> should I encrypt my home folder xd
[11:18] <EriC^^> up to you, it's a hassle if you don't need it
[11:18] <EriC^^> brb lunch
[11:18] <OnceMe> well I can always encrypt it in the future right?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: bon apetit
[11:19] <OnceMe> ?
[11:20] <freeroute> OnceMe: yes, if you so choose to.
[11:20] <OnceMe> meh Im going to encrypt it
[11:20] <freeroute> I wouldn't do that if I were a beginner
[11:20] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: thanks :D
[11:20] <bekks> OnceMe: You took tzhree days to recover your data.
[11:21] <bekks> OnceMe: do you REALLY want to go through that hassle again?
[11:21] <OnceMe> actually yeah
[11:21] <freeroute> lol I know those feels
[11:21] <OnceMe> I can always encrypt in the future :D
[11:21] <bekks> Good luck. I'm finally out of your issue then.
[11:21] <OnceMe> ok installing.. hopefully I will be able to use my GPU
[11:23] <apollo_> what GPU you use?
[11:24] <OnceMe> integrated is intel something
[11:24] <apollo_> ok )
[11:24] <OnceMe> my gpu is AMD RADEON R7 250 GIGABYTE 2GB GDDR5, VGA/DVI/HDMI/128BIT/GV-R725O5-2GI
[11:27] <apollo_>  HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-31-generic i686 ** Distro: Ubuntuo "vividuo" 15.04uo ** CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 215 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2,10GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,9GiB, 70,7% free ** Disk: Total: 142,6GiB, 90,5% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation G96GL [Quadro FX 580] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 1h 53m 47s **
[11:27] <OnceMe> ?
[11:28] <OnceMe> so what driver do I need for that gpu?
[11:29] <apollo_> you have two VGA (GPU) cards ? intel integrated and ATI radeon ?
[11:29] <OnceMe> yes
[11:30] <apollo_> ))) what is monitor cable connected is a integrated VGA or ATI VGA?
[11:30] <OnceMe> dvi
[11:30] <apollo_> you have ONE cable and he only have ONE connection ))) xD
[11:30] <OnceMe> ?
[11:31] <OnceMe> ??????
[11:32] <apollo_> your monitor have cable, just see what a vga card have connection this cable (sorr from my english)
[11:32] <OnceMe> I dont have VGA I have DVI cable
[11:32] <OnceMe> whats unclear?
[11:34] <apollo_> ok just see what is GPU have DVI connection to monitor
[11:35] <b100s> hi2all!
[11:35] <b100s> i have something strange, guys
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> b100s: shoot
[11:36] <kernelhack> b100s: shoot us!
[11:36] <b100s> rar archive under password, which can be unpacked with any pass.. it gives me directory ierarchy and files which looks good.. but files is broken! each .doc file is broken.
[11:36] <b100s> what is it?)))
[11:37] <chotaz`w> b100s, bad password mb
[11:37] <kernelhack> chotaz`w: agree. bad password.
[11:37] <apollo_> of course bad pass
[11:37] <b100s> so i cant use rarcrack for that
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> b100s: no cracking discussions here please
[11:37] <b100s> because it gives me false true
[11:38] <b100s> oh, sorry
[11:38] <b100s> okay
[11:38] <kernelhack> b100s: wrong place for that bro.
[11:38] <b100s> i thought my rar just unusual
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> b100s: like the guys told you, bad password
[11:39] <ducasse> has anyone here used attic for backups?
[11:39] <apollo_> attic a program?
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: better ask your issue with it to the channel
[11:40] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: ok, i was just wondering if it does deduplication across repositories or just within a repo
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: man attic shows unything usefull info?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> *anything
[11:40] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: it isn't clear on the issue
[11:41] <zetheroo> I am still having these issues with slow write to USB sticks in Ubuntu 14.04. Looking around online other people are still having these issues as well but there seems to be no solution.
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: there is a small #attic channel for you, maybe they might know?
[11:41] <lovinamn> 'google nuance dragon
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: share to the channel please
[11:41] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: thanks, i'll try there and get back.
[11:44] <bb6xt> Hey guys, been refreshing ubuntu.com/desktop since waiting for wily to drop but no show yet. Is the wily release going to have snappy as the default package manager?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> !wily | bb6xt
[11:45] <ashleyhindle> Hi - when running 'curl https://domain.com' it's complaining about the certificate. openssl says RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3 and GeoTrust Global CA are in the chain, but I can't see RapidSSL in /etc/ca-certificates.conf
[11:45] <ashleyhindle> Should RapidSSL be in /etc/ca-certificates.conf?
[11:45] <bb6xt> ubottu: but today is the 22nd of october!
[11:45] <nikolam> how do you install teamviewer on 64 bit LTS (14.04) it complains on some libs
[11:45] <Ben64> bb6xt: its still the 22nd for like 24 more hours
[11:46] <nikolam> installing 64bit temaviewer with dpkg also mars it as broken etc
[11:47] <ejnahc> i'm using private network between ubuntu and coreos server, when i type wget sql dump file (about 392M) to download from ubuntu server, then always "destination host unreachable" error occurs. if i don't type wget something, connection between private network is fine. just i type wget, then connection breaks. no files changes in /var/log/*. how can i fix
[11:47] <ejnahc> this problem?
[11:47] <ejnahc> in addition i'm using vultr cloud server
[11:47] <bb6xt> Ben64: I get that am just too anxious to get it. I've been seriously tempted to install the beta but thought better of it
[11:48] <Ben64> bb6xt: then get it, it will upgrade to final
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> bb6xt: few hours patience
[11:49] <Jakey3> how do i uncompress a .xz file
[11:49] <peder> unxz
[11:49] <nikolam> missing libasound2 for teamviewer
[11:50] <bb6xt> @Ben64, @lotuspsychje: will snappy be replacing apt in the Wily release?
[11:50] <Jakey3> peder, tar -unxz foo.img.xz
[11:50] <Jakey3> ?
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> bb6xt: #ubuntu+1 for wily discussions please
[11:51] <peder> Jakey3: no, just unxz foo.img.xz
[11:51] <freeroute> bb6xt: AFAIK snappy won't be replacing apt any time. They will co-exist.
[11:51] <nikolam> oh I see I need 32bit Teamviewer for using multiarch
[11:51] <Jakey3> peder, ok, thanks
[11:52] <peder> Jakey3: tar is for .tar.xz (or other .tar.whatever), and then you can use 'tar axf foo.tar.whatever'
[11:53] <Jakey3> ok
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> afternoon ioria
[11:53] <ioria> lotuspsychje, afternoon ... how it's going ?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> come to discuss ioria :p
[11:54] <ioria> ok
[11:58] <nikolam> what is the best way of giving to specific user user or to the group access to physical disk drive (for use with virtualbox)
[11:59] <nikolam> I for test gave rw do /dev/sdb to use with virtualbox, but I think I need something that survives reboot
[11:59] <nikolam> also goes for giving access to usb devices
[11:59] <Nindustries> Hi guys, so I did an upgrade and " grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common" seem to be stuck forever.. suggestions?
[11:59] <nikolam> I made user member of virtualbox group, what group does it needs to be to be able to use physical disk
[12:00] <Nindustries> in top, I can see a /sbin/init nomdmonddf consuming CPU
[12:00] <nikolam> (partitions)
[12:02] <Nindustries> I'm kinda afraid to reboot it..
[12:03] <Nindustries> dmesg; delaying data-check of md1 until md3 has finished (they share one or more physical units)
[12:10] <slovn1k> hello guys
[12:11] <slovn1k> who has upgraded to 15.10???
[12:11] <k1l> slovn1k: the people in #ubuntu+1 as long as its not officially released yet :)
[12:14] <Lapos> which is the linux distribution who have the better documentation? I'm trying to learn using the oficial ubuntu documentation but i see text like "This is a known, wishlist issue that we hope to solve for Ubuntu 10.04. " ..
[12:15] <k1l> !rute | Lapos
[12:15] <Lapos> k1l, i'm here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[12:15] <Lapos> and they are talking like we are on 9.10
[12:15] <Lapos> 2009
[12:16] <k1l> could be that its at that state and no one did update that. yes
[12:16] <lkthomas> LOL, right after I turned on UFW, everything just silent
[12:16] <Lapos> i want to learn about linux but i need a realiable documentation
[12:17] <ioria> lkthomas, you have to configure it with rules... allow, deny, in out, protocol .... etc. etc...
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !manual | lapos
[12:17] <Lapos> the manual is about 13.10 not exist from 14.04LTS?
[12:18] <lkthomas> ioria, I did, this is a Ubuntu IP router so nothing much need to add on ufw
[12:18] <cfhowlett> Lapos, get it, read it.  you'll learn
[12:18] <Lapos> okey thanks cfhowlett
[12:18] <Lapos> but is not my first day using ubuntu
[12:18] <ioria> lkthomas, ok
[12:18] <TisButMe> Hi everyone. I've just lost all ethernet connectivity, after an update yesterday. Tried another cable, still nothing. Can someone please help? (Ubuntu 15.04)
[12:18] <lkthomas> Lapos, no easy day
[12:19] <k1l> Lapos: its not like everything changes completly with every ubuntu release
[12:19] <lkthomas> ioria, can I block ARP broadcast by the way ?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads          if you read all issues and do the projects, you will be an ubuntu expert
[12:20] <mesc> if anyone is awake
[12:20] <mesc> I could use some help
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> !ask | mesc
[12:20] <brainwash> !lts
[12:20] <cfhowlett> !ask | mesc
[12:20] <mesc> trying to install, worried ubuntu may have overwritten one of my secondary or tertiary drives
[12:21] <mesc> !ask | installing I have a keyboard with two usb inputs and it refuses to recognize it
[12:21] <ioria> lkthomas, you mean dns 53... no, don't think so
[12:21] <mesc> !ask | i don't have another input device
[12:21] <lkthomas> ioria, no, this one: 20:19:24.933796 ARP, Request who-has 4.5.6.1 (Broadcast) tell 1.2.3.249, length 42
[12:22] <mesc> I feel like I'm talking to the comcast automated service
[12:24] <ioria> lkthomas, not sure... but i think not
[12:24] <lkthomas> okay
[12:25] <ioria> lkthomas, " It kinda helps prevent IP collisions and helps domain controller devices and routers know what system has which IP(s) for routing purposes"
[12:26] <lkthomas> ioria, yeah, hmm
[12:26] <lkthomas> I think we are done here :)
[12:26] <lkthomas> so easy using ufw
[12:26] <daniel> :-D
[12:27] <Guest42341> strange bug... if i keep print screen pressed for 4-5 seconds it locks my pc ;/
[12:28] <mesc> real question
[12:28] <k1l> Guest42341: because it will make thousands of screenshots and hangs then
[12:28] <mesc> if you're using the 'live demo' prior to an install
[12:29] <mesc> and you select a drive other than your nomrally primary drive
[12:29] <Guest42341> k1l, yep.. but it shouldn't be allowed to do this :>
[12:29] <mesc> does it overwrite that one instead, or does it automatically go to the first available sata drive
[12:29] <auronandace> mesc: it goes wherever you told it to
[12:31] <mesc> I had important data on my two "slave" drives, but that's kind of not even a term any more
[12:32] <mesc> since you don't have to fit the pins anymore
[12:33] <nils_> mesc, very nostalgic
[12:33] <mesc> ikr
[12:33] <mesc> i'm mostly just angry at myself if I just accidentally started partitioning the wrong drive
[12:35] <auronandace> mesc: you need to know the layout of your drives and partitions before you start any installation
[12:35] <ioria> they are absolutely identical ?
[12:37] <mesc> if you view a drive
[12:37] <mesc> in preview mode
[12:37] <auronandace> mesc: try to keep your sentences on one line please
[12:38] <trudat> I have a problem getting file sharing to work between a windows 7 laptop and an ubuntu box. I had a folder shared and working but now it has just stopped for no apparent reason.
[12:38] <mesc> ok, sorryI'm not used to this server or channel
[12:39] <danslo> hey everyone... I have an application that makes use of ALSA, while running the standard ubuntu/pulseaudio setup... this application always seems to "take control", meaning to say that if I run it first, no other applications will play audio and vice versa. I thought pulse was able to mix ALSA connections? what am I missing here?
[12:39] <ioria> trudat, you can use nautilus with sftp
[12:40] <mesc> if you boot from disk, go into 'preview mode' idk what else to call it, select a drive other than your normal boot drive from the side bar, via the side bar, then try to install, does that overwrite the drive that was selected or the rational drive in the sata list
[12:41] <auronandace> mesc: your drives are always listed in the same order, it doesn't matter whether you mount whatever drive or partition during the live session
[12:41]  * sebsebseb hasn't been here for ages hi
[12:42] <ioria> trudat, you have to install openssh on win , although
[12:42] <mesc> auronandace, I'm aware of that, but it appeared that files from a separate drive than what I selected were being erased during install
[12:43] <trudat> The windows machine is connected to a domain on a wireless network that is not under my control. I am sharing this internet connection via the laptop's ethernet connection to the ubuntu machine. I'm using synergy and the internet connection is passed through just fine. The ubuntu box is not part of the domain though. I don't want to use sftp because the laptop user is not me, it's my wife and up until today samba has worked fine
[12:43] <auronandace> mesc: the installer won't erase anything unless you told it to (such as selecting a partition to be formatted)
[12:43] <trudat> the ubuntu box is running xbmc and is pretty much being used as an appliance
[12:44] <auronandace> mesc: check out your current layout: sudo parted -l
[12:48] <rsmarshall> Hi, I have vsftpd installed but it seems not to work unless I enter vsftp in the command line to start it up
[12:50] <ioria> rsmarshall, vsftp runs as a service ... ps -A | grep vsftp ?
[12:50] <rsmarshall> ioria nothing
[12:50] <plytro> sudo service vsftp start?
[12:50] <rsmarshall> plytro that starts up but then isn't running
[12:50] <rsmarshall> it's dying somehow right away
[12:51] <fedorenchik> join #ltp
[12:52] <fedorenchik> sorry, ignore
[12:52] <ioria> rsmarshall, is vsftp(d)   sudo sudo service vsftpd restart   8or start)
[12:52] <mesc> auronandace, it appears my files are in tact, if I might ask another question before I actually try to install again
[12:52] <rsmarshall> ioria thanks, that's waht i did, but it seems to die right away
[12:52] <rsmarshall> what*
[12:53] <plytro> have you looked at any logs?
[12:53] <rsmarshall> can't see anything in syslog or vsftpd log
[12:53] <ioria> rsmarshall, cat /etc/issue ?
[12:53] <mesc> I am coming from a win 7 install that became flawed, three logical drives that should appear on the install list, which will appear as the original install drive
[12:53] <mesc> that's what I want to write over
[12:53] <rsmarshall> ioria Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[12:54] <ioria> rsmarshall, try to purge and reinstall it ...  do you have other ftp server installed ?
[12:54] <rsmarshall> nope
[12:55] <rsmarshall> ioria Ok, will do. Running it with an ansible role at the moment
[12:56] <Pwnna> how do people investigate hard freezes? (no response to keyboard/input, audio loops, nothing in syslog, however, my clock in my tray is still ticking..)
[12:58] <zzarr> hello! when Ubuntu desktop and phone moves to snappy, will the desktop receive OTA-like updates?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> zzarr, no
[12:59] <Ben64> Pwnna: doesn't sound that hard, first thing i'd do is see if you could log in via ssh, you'd need another computer and you'd need to install openssh-server
[12:59] <Pwnna> Ben64: no response to pings
[12:59] <zzarr> cfhowlett, will it remain the same as today?
[12:59] <Pwnna> Ben64: i rebooted the system already, but then this has froze once per day for the last couple of days
[13:00] <Ben64> Pwnna: doing what
[13:00] <Pwnna> ?
[13:00] <OnceMe> I cannot see the screen when I plugin DVI into my amd radeon r7 200 GPU
[13:00] <Ben64> what are you doing when it freezes
[13:00] <OnceMe> on integrated card, it works fine.
[13:00] <Pwnna> Ben64: different everytime.. chatting on IRC, browsing the internet, etc
[13:00] <cfhowlett> zzarr, how do you imagine you could get OTA on your desktop?
[13:01] <Ben64> Pwnna: can you do ctrl+alt+f1 to get to console, or use the magic sysrq keys ?
[13:01] <Didact> I think I installed the lightweight desktop environment, but can't recall it's name, how can I tell which one I'm using?
[13:01] <Pwnna> Ben64: nope. in fact, the caps lock lights doesn't even change when i tap the keyboard
[13:01] <hateball> OnceMe: So you probably need the restricted driver for your ATI card
[13:02] <Ben64> Pwnna: did you actually try the sysrq
[13:02] <OnceMe> I found this one http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64
[13:02] <plytro> Didact: xfce, lxde, ???
[13:02] <OnceMe> and downloaded 1st from the list
[13:02] <Pwnna> Ben64: i'll try that next time
[13:02] <Pwnna> if there is
[13:02] <OnceMe> "AMD Catalyst™ 15.9 Proprietary Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 Video Driver for Graphics Accelerators" is that what I need?
[13:02] <OnceMe> because there are many AMD Catalyst drivers..
[13:02] <Ben64> Pwnna: its much lower level than caps lock
[13:02] <Didact> I think lxde, how do I tell ?
[13:02] <Pwnna> hmm
[13:02] <OnceMe> hateball:?
[13:02] <zzarr> cfhowlett, something like Mac OS X, downloading a file to a new partition or image file and an installation outside the system
[13:02] <Pwnna> if that works what could be a potential cause? anything else i can enable to get more logs of whatever is causing it?
[13:03] <plytro> Didact: you could do apt-cache policy lxde
[13:03] <plytro> if that is the package name
[13:03] <cfhowlett> zzarr, ah!  so not actually OTA.
[13:03] <plytro> however if there is a "start" menu like place there is probably an About option
[13:03] <plytro> or if you go back to the login page you should be able to select your window manager from some place
[13:03] <plytro> and icon or something
[13:03] <cfhowlett> zzarr, I seem to recall reading something like you described.  best wait until if/when snappy arrives
[13:04] <Ben64> Pwnna: could be anything, also try doing a memtest
[13:04] <zzarr> cfhowlett, okey, thanks for your reply
[13:04] <Didact> I see Lubuntu Software CEnter, think that indcates I have lxdea?
[13:04] <Iresf> i have files of windows 8.1 in ubuntu and i created an iso file from them but i can not use iso created in virtualbox
[13:04] <OnceMe> anyone?
[13:05] <Ben64> OnceMe: don't install from amd website, use the ubuntu software center
[13:05] <zzarr> cfhowlett, OTA was the closest description of the experience when upgrading I think ;)
[13:05] <OnceMe> ok and what to write/find in ubuntu software center? My GPU is amd radeon r7 200
[13:05] <cfhowlett> zzarr, no worries, amigo.
[13:05] <OnceMe> Ben64:?
[13:05] <hateball> OnceMe: Just hilighting me with a question mark will not achieve much other than annoy me
[13:05] <zzarr> cfhowlett, :)
[13:06] <Ben64> OnceMe: edit -> software sources -> additional drivers
[13:06] <Iresf> i have files of windows 8.1 in ubuntu and i created an iso file from them but i can not use iso created in virtualbox
[13:06] <zzarr> will I be able to upgrade to 15.10 with the update-manager now?
[13:07] <Ben64> Iresf: ask about windows issues in ##windows
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[13:07] <OnceMe> Ben64:this device is using the recommended driver.
[13:07] <plytro> irsesf you can't make a bootable iso from just a collection of windows 8 files
[13:07] <Ben64> OnceMe: sounds like you're done then
[13:07] <Pici> zzarr: not now, but today.
[13:07] <Pwnna> Ben64: the weird thing is that the clock is still ticking (i have a clock by the second, so i see the changes)...
[13:07] <Ben64> Pwnna: yeah thats strange
[13:07] <zzarr> Pici, any idea when? (how many hour from now)
[13:08] <Pwnna> it disconnects from the network as one time i saw facebook's disconnected message.
[13:08] <OnceMe> cool thanks! :D
[13:08] <Pwnna> and it kept count down to the next time it wants to reconnect.
[13:08] <Pici> zzarr: unsure, it looks like the devs are working on some final testing.
[13:08] <Pwnna> but the system was entirely non-responsive.
[13:08] <plytro> Iresf: https://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/linux/
[13:08] <plytro> depending on your needs you could just download one of those
[13:08] <zzarr> Pici, okey, I'm exited :)
[13:09] <sebsebseb> well this should be a basic one to sort out.  got a new 15.04 install I want to install Skype.  sudo apt-get install skype nope coudn't find it. hmm
[13:09] <sebsebseb> do I need to enable some repo first?
[13:09] <cfhowlett> sebsebseb, yep.
[13:09] <sebsebseb> or something
[13:10]  * sebsebseb hasn't used Ubuntu for quite a while on a computer, untilll  recently
[13:10] <sebsebseb> cfhowlett: where how?
[13:10] <zzarr> I heard that kernel 4.2 can be updated without rebooting the computer, does that mean that reboots generally are a thing of the past?
[13:10] <k1l_> !partner
[13:10] <k1l_> sebsebseb: ^
[13:11] <sebsebseb> zzarr: for distros that support that and specially the feature sure I guess so, but not yet,  except for some servers who  I have read already do that kind of thing
[13:11] <zzarr> sebsebseb, okey, thank you :)
[13:12] <sebsebseb> zzarr: so yes expect to keep on re booting Ubuntu for now after kernel updates (and most other distros to)
[13:13] <zzarr> how's the general performance of Wily compared to Vivid?
[13:13] <sebsebseb> zzarr: do you hae an Ubuntu install at the moment, if so which version?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> errrrrrrrr, as it was only just released, why don't you install, test and tell us?
[13:14] <sebsebseb> I think 15.10 still isn't out offically, but very soon
[13:14]  * sebsebseb knows it's mainly just later packages  as the differences between 15.04 and 15.10
[13:15] <zzarr> sebsebseb, yes, I have been running Ubuntu as my primary OS for 9+ years :D
[13:15] <zzarr> sebsebseb, I have Vivid :)
[13:15] <rodoviario> Hola... está cerrado puente los ruices, por eso está trancado el este de la ciudad
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !es | rodoviario
[13:15] <sebsebseb> zzarr: you can upgrade to 15.10, but I don't think you'll notice that much difference if any as such really over 15.04
[13:16] <k1l_> with 15.04 you need to upgrade in the next 3 months anyway
[13:16] <sebsebseb> to be supported
[13:17] <sebsebseb> by updates
[13:17] <k1l_> sebsebseb: if you want a systems that gets security patches. yes.  if you dont want to upgrade every 6 months then stay on LTS
[13:17] <sebsebseb> yeah
[13:17] <zzarr> sebsebseb, I will upgrade as soon as it's possible ;)
[13:18] <sebsebseb> !releaseday
[13:18] <sebsebseb> may be a bit slow doing that on release day
[13:19] <Gamoder_> I usually wait a month or so to upgrade ... then many problems have been fixed
[13:21] <Pici> /36/50
[13:22] <nils_> running do-release-upgrade in a loop ;)
[13:23] <zzarr> I'm glad I have a nice internet connection (100/100)
[13:24] <rsmarshall> any idea how to make vsftpd upload files with the username as user:group?
[13:30] <tomkmem> Hi, when using ldap authentication, i have put files ldap in my /etc/nsswitch.conf but it seems to always be querying ldap for users that are local. is this normal behavior ? I am running nslcd -d to see this
[13:33] <mgalal> hi everybody
[13:35] <Dyzem> Trying to auto mount a shared NTFS drive for use across dual-boot Win10/Ubuntu. I modified my fstab file according to a video tutorial on auto-mounting a new drive. On boot, I get the error "Error while mounting, S to skip mounting, M for manual recovery". Here is my fstab: http://pastebin.com/2FLh3pkL
[13:37] <nikolam> Dyzem, see if you use uuid's in fstab maybe
[13:37] <mgalal> I'm using ubuntuserver 14.04 internet connection is wired directly to the router,but when I ping google it works some times and some other times it doesnt
[13:38] <nikolam> mgalal, see your routing and network administrators, it seems consistent with some routing problem outside of the box
[13:39] <nikolam> try traceroute and see different paths it take
[13:39] <mgalal> no I have other laptops wrking on the same network and its stable on the other laptops
[13:39] <nikolam> choosing defaul gateway might help or might not
[13:40] <nikolam> static ip/dhcp.., same ip. different
[13:40] <nikolam> maybe net cad dying, bad cable, port on switch, cable..
[13:40] <nikolam> routingi inside the box..
[13:40] <mgalal> right now it says destination hot unreachable, after like 10 seconds I get reply from ping server
[13:41] <nikolam> I won't put blame on the ubuntu box first
[13:41] <mgalal> I'm sure its a problem with server, I already tried all that stuff about router and cable \
[13:41] <CodeGosu> is there any motherboard where i can select link to .iso, from its uefi browser and it will treat it as inserted drive so that i can install OS without the need to write its image to usb
[13:41] <nikolam> we got that and problem was with provider's routoing
[13:42] <mgalal> I'm talking to you right now from the same connection\
[13:42] <mgalal> and have other laptops working on the same connection
[13:42] <nikolam> CodeGosu, high end intel CPus i7 latest, provide that with motherboard, check mobo spec for that (x99 etc)
[13:42] <nikolam> mgalal, see cables or if they can get same IP
[13:43] <nikolam> CodeGosu, cheap solution is to use virtualization and host os to provide ISO for VM
[13:45] <acezen> how can I mount the partitions in the debian livecd and then install the system?
[13:50] <sebsebseb>   
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: all i7s are hogh-end, thats what makes them i7s
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> *high
[13:56] <chotaz`w> do we get the upgrade via system-update today?
[13:57] <rsmarshall> I'm ftp'ing as a user@host where the user has full write permissions to the folder and yet can't upload a file (vsftpd)
[13:57] <marlo_> rsmarshall, look at your logs
[13:58] <rsmarshall> marlo_ nothing i can see in vsftpd log or syslog
[13:59] <aragua> rsmarshall, have you space left on disk?
[13:59] <rsmarshall> yeah
[14:00] <rsmarshall> write_enable=YES should be on?
[14:02] <labsy> can somebody explain this. why is a "dd if=/dev/zero of=./bigfile bs=1M count=1000" in a folder which is mounted on an nfs share FASTER than the same command on my local disk?
[14:02] <labsy> 1048576000 bytes (1,0 GB) copied, 9,65856 s, 109 MB/s
[14:02] <labsy> on NFS
[14:02] <labsy> 1048576000 bytes (1,0 GB) copied, 13,5497 s, 77,4 MB/s
[14:02] <labsy> on my local disk.
[14:02] <labsy> LOL
[14:02] <labsy> I need a faster disk :/
[14:07] <ducasse> labsy: both of those will use the cache, there is a flag for dd to use direct I/O
[14:11] <labsy> ducasse: I did it once. so no cache involved.
[14:11] <labsy> I pretty sure these are real stats. with this disk I have here I am really slower than my 1Gbps LAN.
[14:15] <labsy> ducasse: but just to satisfy you. I did it with oflag=direct, too. same results. as I said, I did it only once so there can't be cached data.
[14:16] <ducasse> labsy: no, i get that :)
[14:21] <cristobal> Any one else have no mouse and got low res after upgrading to 15.10 today?
[14:22] <ioria> cristobal, have you tried the guest user ?
[14:22] <cristobal> no
[14:22] <cristobal> let me try
[14:23] <k1l_> cristobal: heard that once before today.
[14:23] <cristobal> ioria, same it have low res and no mouse
[14:23] <huwjr> wget -r ftp://user:password@host randomly decides to stop about 5 directories deep - does anyone have any ideas?:/
[14:24] <cristobal> the mouse only shows on login screen not after:3
[14:24] <k1l_> cristobal: check video driver
[14:24] <ioria> cristobal, video driver maybe, what you have ?
[14:24] <marlo_> huwjr, try the same thing from/to different machines
[14:24] <huwjr> what you thinking?
[14:25] <cristobal> k1l_, ioria It currently have the opensource video driver i just verify
[14:26] <ioria> cristobal, nouveau or intel ?
[14:27] <cristobal> ioria, fglrx opensource drivers i can try to uninstallthem and reboot :p
[14:27] <ioria> cristobal, it's not opensource
[14:27] <ioria> cristobal, radeon is opensource
[14:27] <labsy> 15.10 is out????
[14:27] <Pici> labsy: nope!
[14:28] <labsy> aah :>
[14:28] <k1l_> labsy: see #ubuntu-release-party
[14:28] <daftykins> i can see it's going to be one of those days.
[14:28] <ioria> cristobal, sudo lshw -c video
[14:28] <k1l_> cristobal: how did you install the fglrx on 15.04? load from the amd site?
[14:29] <cristobal> i did ppa but purge it before installation of 15.10 i am removing the fglrx now
[14:29] <ioria> cristobal, very good :þ
[14:31] <ioria> cristobal, if i were you i'd purge the ppa too
[14:32] <cristobal> ioria, ok
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> cristobal: 15.10 isnt supported in here yet
[14:35] <cristobal> ActionParsnip, good help thanks :)
[14:35] <daftykins> i'm thinking that's a distinction we're going to lose on
[14:35] <daftykins> cristobal: no smug comments thanks
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> cristobal: #ubuntu+1 til it is released (see channel MOTD)
[14:36] <huwjr> wget -r ftp://user:password@host randomly decides to stop about 5 directories deep - does anyone have any ideas?:/
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> huwjr: why FTP? it's awful
[14:36] <huwjr> because shared hosting
[14:37] <huwjr> any useful information now?
[14:37] <daftykins> huwjr: so use a proper FTP client
[14:37] <MrWhiskers> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KIyi88QK/IMG_20151022_080642.jpg
[14:37] <MrWhiskers> Probably the coolest USA Today....
[14:37] <daftykins> MrWhiskers: off topic, take it elsewhere thanks.
[14:38] <Darkelarious> hi, i'm chrooted into my ubuntu 14.04, trying to apt-get --fix-missing, but in order to do so, i need to apt-get update
[14:38] <daftykins> right...
[14:38] <Darkelarious> ..but that update doesn't work until i fix-missing :/
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> huwjr: is there no scope for SFTP which is enabled when you install openssh-server (?)
[14:38] <huwjr> nope
[14:38] <daftykins> show some output in a pastebin, Darkelarious - we can't see from here
[14:39] <daftykins> preferably http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:39] <huwjr> wget -r works great but seems to just randomly fail :p
[14:39] <huwjr> or not fail - just think it’s done lol
[14:39] <Darkelarious> need a min, it's on another system
[14:40] <bazhang> yea!
[14:40] <ioria> wow
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> yeah bwoi
[14:42] <Darkelarious> let's rephrase my problem -- in chroot, my apt-get update doesn't work because it can't resolve any addresses (no ping google.com, failed to fetch ~ )
[14:43] <Darkelarious> while the host ubuntu 14.04 (live disk) has no problem with that whatsoever
[14:43] <ioria> Darkelarious, are you from live cd ?
[14:43] <Darkelarious> usb
[14:43] <ioria> Darkelarious, did you enable networking ?
[14:43] <Darkelarious> laptop -> live usb 14.04 -> chroot
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Darkelarious: can you ping 8.8.8..8 ?
[14:43] <daftykins> Darkelarious: ah i didn't think you'd fall over the obvious stuff, copy the /etc/resolv.conf in from the live session.
[14:43] <Darkelarious> triple-checking now
[14:44] <Darkelarious> daftykins: never really encountered a fubar'd update :)
[14:44] <disposable> i'm trying to install 14.04 on hp microserver (n54l). i have a problem with the installer though. as soon as the purple ncurses based interface starts, my usb keyboard stops working. does anybody know a workaround? (it works fine with centos installer and omnios (solaris)) and yes, i have tried a different usb keyboard. same story. i'm installing from a usb2 drive onto a usb3(in usb2 port) drive, in cas
[14:44] <Darkelarious> usually i only chroot for fixing grub
[14:44] <daftykins> it's on the chroot guide pages
[14:44] <disposable> e that matters. google shows many people with the problem but no solution.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Darkelarious: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?    If you can then we can tweak stuff
[14:44] <daftykins> disposable: replug it? :)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> oops
[14:45] <disposable> daftykins: i've even tried plugging in a different one.
[14:45] <eagle91> hoola
[14:46] <daftykins> disposable: check the BIOS for any USB legacy control settings
[14:46] <ioria> disposable, check usb legacy in bios, or ps/2 keyboard  ( i know silly)
[14:46] <daftykins> ensure latest BIOS too
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> disposable: also use USB2 if you are using USB3, may make a difference
[14:48] <Darkelarious> i have nooo idea what just happened.. I was unable to reproduce any errors from before (including the ones from dpkg --configure -a), resolv.conf cp'd, update ran fine
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Darkelarious: so, all ok now?
[14:49] <disposable> ioria: daftykins: i have changed all of the usb settings in bios, to no avail. i've even tried leaving in just the usb2 drive (with installer) and no other drive, still same result. this is more fo a question to somebody who has actually experienced this bug.
[14:49] <ducasse> disposable: this is the server install image, right?
[14:49] <disposable> ducasse: yes it is
[14:49] <Darkelarious> ActionParsnip: nope, 3 seconds after pressing enter, i ended up with the original problem  ----> when i run apt-get's fix-missing, i have an unmet dependency for openjdk-7, going to paste now
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> disposable: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Darkelarious: thanks
[14:50] <daftykins> disposable: is it an up to date BIOS?
[14:50] <disposable> ActionParsnip: yes, md5sum matches
[14:50] <daftykins> disposable: and as nice as that is, the likelihood of encountering someone with the same machine is pretty poor :P
[14:51] <ducasse> disposable: use a ps/2 keyboard, if you can. I've seen the same thing with the server installer and usb keyboards.
[14:52] <martinr_> ok one question when i running apt-get dist-upgrade <package-name> , it do dist-upgrade for all my packages in the system or is it upgrading just only for the package name specified
[14:52] <Darkelarious> http://p.blicky.net/4o7fw
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> martinr_: it will upgrade the packages on the system based on the package knowledge you have in the system
[14:52] <k1l_> martinr_: that doesnt work for one package
[14:52] <baizon> martinr_: syntax is wrong
[14:53] <Darkelarious> context: a full system upgrade failed, after reboot the network drivers failed, so i thought to chroot from livedisk and install the network drivers again
[14:54] <martinr_> then with dist-upgrade isnt possible to run just for one package?
[14:54] <daftykins> martinr_: you don't dist-upgrade one package at all :P
[14:54] <daftykins> just run "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[14:54] <k1l_> martinr_: there is no sense in not upgrading all packages since you will be missing the important updates then
[14:55] <martinr_> daftykins: for one package i can use apt-get upgrade package?
[14:55] <Darkelarious> install*
[14:55] <Darkelarious> sudo apt-get install <pack>
[14:55] <daftykins> martinr_: read what i just said.
[14:55] <k1l_> but with apt-get install package you can update just one package if you can handle the risks
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> disposable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UpdatingChroot      shows "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)"  is cosmetic and can be ignored
[14:55] <Darkelarious> yeah, i caught that
[14:55] <Darkelarious> i'm more concerned about the bottom of that paste
[14:55] <ioria> Darkelarious, are you still in chroot ?
[14:55] <martinr_> the this command is wrong right? apt-get dist-upgrade docker-engine-cs
[14:56] <Darkelarious> yes,
[14:56] <martinr_> then
[14:56] <ioria> Darkelarious, Can not write log (Is /dev/pts mounted?
[14:56] <Darkelarious> ioria: what i expect (but not sure) is that apt-get fix-missing can not properly update inside a chrooted environment
[14:56] <Darkelarious> right now i settle for fixing the network driver
[14:57] <Darkelarious> so i can fix the rest from inside my normal environment
[14:57] <ioria> Darkelarious, you did't bind pts maybe... but i didn't undertand why are you chrooting ...
[14:57] <Darkelarious> but i can't get dpkg to discard/stop caring about the currently broken packages and only install a proper driver
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Darkelarious: try:    wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[14:58] <Darkelarious> ioria: tl;dr: upgrading packages failed, network driver broken, can't have wireless/wired network in native OS
[14:58] <EriC^^> Darkelarious: what's the problem?
[14:58] <Darkelarious> 404 @ dropbox link
[14:58] <ioria> EriC^^, http://p.blicky.net/4o7fw
[14:58] <disposable> ducasse: unfortunately, the server does not have a ps2 port. i've just tested it with 15.10 image and same problem.
[14:58] <EriC^^> ioria: thanks
[14:58] <Darkelarious> disposable: any chance to run it over ssh?
[14:58] <Darkelarious> or don't you get that far?
[14:58] <ioria> EriC^^, he is chrooting from live
[14:58] <disposable> Darkelarious: it stops working as soon as ncurses starts
[14:59] <Darkelarious> ow, and that starts automatically, doesn't it?
[14:59] <EriC^^> Darkelarious: which partitions did you mount --bind before chrooting?
[14:59] <Darkelarious> dev, proc, sys @ EriC^^
[15:00] <EriC^^> Darkelarious: ok, you need to mount --bind /dev/pts and /run too
[15:00] <EriC^^> type exit, mount --bind those, then chroot again, and also type mount -a to make sure everything is mounted
[15:01] <Darkelarious> pts mountpoint doesn't exit ._.
[15:01] <ducasse> disposable: then I guess the easiest path would be to use the desktop installer, and just remove the desktop packages afterwards.
[15:01] <EriC^^> did you mount --bind /dev properly?
[15:01] <Darkelarious> supposedly
[15:01] <EriC^^> hmm, i'd restart and start fresh
[15:02] <Darkelarious> i just chrooted dev/proc/sys without any issues as i did plenty of times
[15:02] <Darkelarious> that's why i don't get it now
[15:04] <Darkelarious> in contrary to previous attempts (and after another apt-get clean) it at least downloads the package again
[15:04] <Darkelarious> nvm, same result/erro
[15:04] <Darkelarious> r
[15:05] <EriC^^> Darkelarious: mount --bind /dev/pts
[15:05] <EriC^^> and /run is needed for apt to work
[15:06] <Darkelarious> going in for *another* reboot
[15:06] <Captonjamason> Well, im having a  bit of trouble, i just set up ubuntu 15.04 for a friend and it refuses to connect to a wifi network,
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Captonjamason: could connect to a wired connection and upgrade to Wily...
[15:06] <Darkelarious> Captonjamason: sudo lshw -C network
[15:07] <Darkelarious> also, bam, netsplit
[15:08] <studio_> hello all
[15:08] <Darkelarious> hi
[15:08] <studio_> What's up?
[15:08] <JustMozzy> hey guys. I am connecting to a VPN using openvpn, however when I connect to a VM on my machine via ssh, things get extremely slow. any idea how I could tell ssh not to use the VPN connection and directly connect to the machine?
[15:09] <daftykins> JustMozzy: how does the VPN relate? is the VM local?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: use the route command
[15:10] <daftykins> you'd have to avoid using it as your default gateway which'd break other things you might expect to 'just work'
[15:11] <Pwnna> Ben42: magic sysrq keys didn't work
[15:11] <Pwnna> also this time the clock stopped ticking
[15:12] <Pwnna> nothing relevant in logs..
[15:17] <Darkelarious> a reboot, pts, dev, run, & co later, exactly the same problem still
[15:17] <JustMozzy> daftykins: yes, the VM is local. how it relates?  I don't know, the only thing I know is that even typing commands in the terminal while in ssh connection and using vpn takes seconds to arrive, whereas when vpn is inactive, the prompt reacts instantly
[15:17] <Darkelarious> same error as before, same result
[15:18] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll look it up
[15:19] <daftykins> JustMozzy: what do you use the VPN for?
[15:22] <Darkelarious> okay, I have one more idea
[15:22] <JustMozzy> daftykins: vpn stuff
[15:22] <Darkelarious> since fix-missing indicates that there's a problem with the local OS and my problem was only the internet driver, i just try fix-missing again, this time with the packages already downloaded
[15:22] <daftykins> JustMozzy: ok can't help you then if vagueness is the game
[15:23] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip: what would I set as the gateway using the route command? currently the gateway is set to 0.0.0.0
[15:23] <fabio_> Hello guys. im using yad on my bash script to show a information window to the user. the problem is if the window is open, the script doesn't continue the execution of the script.
[15:23] <fabio_> any idea?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: then set the gateway for your system to use for your system using the route command
[15:24] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip: So basically my host machine's IP address?
[15:25] <daftykins> that sounds like a mistake
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: yes, with a netmask of 255.255.255.255
[15:25] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll try that one
[15:25] <OerHeks> Ⓗⓐⓟⓟⓨ Ⓡⓔⓛⓔⓐⓢⓔⓓⓐⓨ ①⑤.①⓪
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> JustMozzy: the IP of the remote system you want to connect to
[15:25] <Darkelarious> 0_0, even without chroot i get the same error/problem
[15:25] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: it's local
[15:26] <TJ-> Darkelarious: what is the problem?
[15:27] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip: I think that worked
[15:28] <ioria> Darkelarious, can't you do that  in recovery mode after remount the fs ?
[15:29] <Darkelarious> i think the entire OS is busted
[15:29] <Darkelarious> so i'll run a last backup (ssd and hotswap ftw) and try a clean install
[15:29] <Darkelarious> see if that does the job
[15:29] <ioria> Darkelarious, boot in recovery and try to purge icedtea-7-jre-jamvm
[15:30] <Darkelarious> no success there, already tried that
[15:30] <daftykins> via apt, or via dpkg?
[15:31] <Darkelarious> bbl
[15:31] <Darkelarious> ty so far, all of you
[15:31] <ioria> Darkelarious, ls /dev/pts ?
[15:32] <Darkelarious> i'm no longer in chroot
[15:32] <Darkelarious> as said, i'll go for the nuking option :)
[15:32] <ioria> Darkelarious, yes, and what you get ?
[15:32] <ioria> Darkelarious, ah, ok
[15:36] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip: na, didn|
[15:36] <JustMozzy> ActionParsnip: na, didn't work... the route is directly to the box, but still a mean delay
[15:39] <auronandace> JustMozzy: you could try mosh as an alternative
[15:43] <TJ-> JustMozzy: so you have [ PC > ( Guest OS ) ] > VPN-to-remote-location > LAN > gateway/router --> ISP -> Internet <- VPN-rend-point < Remote-Host  ?
[15:47] <JustMozzy> TJ: eh yupp
[15:49] <TJ-> JustMozzy: so if ( Guest OS ) only has a default route back to PC, then it would suggest the problem is on PC. Can you, from the host PC, do "pastebinit <( ip -4 -6 route show )"
[15:50] <JustMozzy> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12894982/
[15:51] <PanV> I want to decrypt my files within 10 minutes. Is it possible? TJ-
[15:53] <Joeboy> !isitout
[15:54] <Obelus> What is with all the join/quit stuff today :( it's on every channel.
[15:55] <Obelus> Speaking of new releases, I think this marks 2.5 years since I've actually touched Ubuntu for more than a few minutes :/
[15:55] <OerHeks> Obelus, that is normal for these channels, some irc clients can hide those join/part messages
[15:56] <PanV> I want to decrypt my files within 10 minutes. Is it possible? TJ-
[15:56] <daftykins> Obelus: this is a support channel only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[15:56] <daftykins> PanV: please don't hassle volunteers directly. address the channel first
[15:57] <PanV> daftykins: Sorry, I pressed Tab by accident...
[15:57] <PanV> My fault
[15:57] <PanV> http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/ Can I backup this with chroot/sudo with CTRL ALT F1/Recovery Mode?
[15:59] <daftykins> i don't even remember your original issue
[16:00] <PanV> daftykins: Lost access to /home directory and trying to recover with LiveUSB
[16:03] <PanV> After mounting with File manager my Ubuntu partition, ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase was not able to locate the Encrypted directory. What did I do wrong?
[16:07] <soman> My app is installed in /usr/local/myapp... Can myapp create files and folders in system directories without 'root' with just simple user or not?
[16:07] <SCHAAP137> woohoo 15.10
[16:09] <madmanwithabox> Hi
[16:09] <madmanwithabox> I'm downloading Ubuntu 15.10
[16:09] <PanV> madmanwithabox: Need any help?
[16:10] <OnceMe> I have two GPU DVI inputs on my PC, how to know which one is plugged in right now, without looking inside of MB?
[16:12] <madmanwithabox> And, I've been put off because of the amazon thing, but I love the direction in which it's headed (for the most part). So here's my suggestion. I think that in Ubuntu, once a user is created, they should get a option to turn on the Amazon search feature. I completely support Ubuntu's choice in adding that feature, but I don't understand why the user is never prompted or told about that
[16:12] <daftykins> DVI outputs... typically the one closest to the motherboard on a graphics card is the primary
[16:12] <daftykins> but really it can be card dependant.
[16:12] <OnceMe> ?
[16:13] <daftykins> my statement is pretty clear.
[16:14] <auronandace> madmanwithabox: we are not the developers and have no creative sway in what ubuntu does, this channel is just for support issues
[16:15] <madmanwithabox> auronandace: Not asking for you all to implement this, just asking for your opinion. I mean, come on :) this is a community, let's have a little fun
[16:15] <auronandace> !discuss | madmanwithabox
[16:15] <madmanwithabox> *sigh* fine
[16:20] <Guy1524> hello, I am using ubuntu gnome 15.04, how do I upgrade to ubuntu gnome 15.10
[16:21] <chotaz`w> Guy1524, sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[16:21] <Guy1524> ok thanks
[16:21] <wileee> just do-release-upgrade you will be asked for password
[16:22] <Guy1524> ok, it is upgrading, thanks
[16:24] <PanV> "Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-2]" By unencryptfs or something. What is -2?
[16:26] <CoJaBo> Is it possible to install the VirtualBox VNC and USB addons in ubuntu? how?
[16:26] <daftykins> !virtualbox
[16:27] <maddawg2> http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml
[16:27] <maddawg2> oops
[16:27] <maddawg2> wrong channel
[16:27] <daftykins> indeed :P
[16:27] <CoJaBo> So theres no sane way to do it? :/
[16:27] <PanV> I am afraid that this -2 are the attempts left. And I am afraid that if -2 is exceed I wont access my files?
[16:27] <daftykins> no it is not, since that's a negative number
[16:28] <daftykins> you can't have minus two chances
[16:28] <CoJaBo> lol
[16:28] <CoJaBo> Hardware "encrypted" drive or something?
[16:28] <daftykins> software encrypted
[16:28] <PanV> daftykins: ..
[16:28] <PanV> I mean -2, -1, then when it comes to 0..
[16:28] <CoJaBo> If it's software encrypted, you have infinite tries :P
[16:28] <daftykins> CoJaBo: used to be that the ubuntu repos contained some open source version of virtualbox which didn't have support for the above, so you had to get the non-free edition from oracle direct
[16:29] <daftykins> which had all the USB support etc
[16:29] <daftykins> PanV: i know what you mean, i'm pointing out how wrong you are
[16:29] <CoJaBo> daftykins: But matching the version is a PITA, and I have to do it every week or so
[16:29] <daftykins> why update so often?
[16:29] <CoJaBo> Dunno
[16:29] <uusi> hey guys, i have a laptop with  intel processor with nvidia card, with an extra monitor plugged in. I just updated to the RC and the screen went blank after the reboot. Doesn't even show up the login screen. Any ideas what might have happened?
[16:29] <PanV> daftykins: But then what does -2 mean?
[16:29] <CoJaBo> Every minor version release breaks it again
[16:29] <daftykins> PanV: i didn't reply because i don't know - look it up
[16:30] <daftykins> PanV: you have a particularly annoying approach toward your use of this channel.
[16:30] <CoJaBo> Is there a way to blacklist VirtualBox so apt never upgrades it? Seems like the only option :/
[16:30] <daftykins> nah use apt pinning
[16:30] <daftykins> i don't know how, but i know it's a thing :)
[16:30] <CoJaBo> So first tho, how do I actually get the correct version again? >_>
[16:30] <PanV> daftykins: How am I annoying? I just asked something. Google hasn't got anything on it.
[16:30] <daftykins> bet it does :(
[16:31] <daftykins> PanV: you ask people by name that don't know, that's what.
[16:31] <PanV> daftykins: I didn't ask you by name though. Did I?
[16:31] <daftykins> < PanV> daftykins: But then what does -2 mean?
[16:32] <daftykins> *sigh*
[16:32] <daftykins> CoJaBo: which 'buntu?
[16:32] <CoJaBo> Kubuntu 14.04
[16:32] <maddawg2> i  get the confusion
[16:32] <Ridley5> hi all
[16:32] <Pici> PanV: its likely an error code.
[16:32] <maddawg2> actuallyt in SME linux they had -3 -2 -1
[16:33] <maddawg2> just the way it was written out
[16:33] <PanV> daftykins: You told that it shouldn't be -2
[16:33] <PanV> If it ain't -2 then what is it?
[16:33] <PanV> This is why I referred to you
[16:33] <PanV> Pici: Ok, thanks.
[16:33] <Ridley5> im using Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, my fan speed is always the same, the temp now is 75° my pc is heating
[16:34] <daftykins> PanV: no i told you that you were wrong about assuming it was 'tries left' - for the love of Tux.
[16:34] <tech124214> Hi i have a larg number of thin clients using ubuntu ltsp getting stuck at "Begin setting up nbd-client" ... Negotiation" Is there a good refrence for troubeshooting this?
[16:34] <Ridley5> i used pwmconfig : "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[16:34] <PanV> daftykins: And I replied to you.. because I wasn't sure about that.
[16:34] <daftykins> CoJaBo: what version is showing up as installed right now? "dpkg -l | grep virtual" would be easy
[16:34] <Ridley5> how can i set my fan speed to automatic, i mean depending on temp
[16:34] <daftykins> PanV: no i was telling you you were wrong
[16:35] <daftykins> PanV: i'm going to ignore you now as you are very annoying
[16:35] <CoJaBo> 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5
[16:35] <PanV> daftykins: Thanks, because I simply replied to one of your messages.
[16:35] <daftykins> !info virtualbox trusty
[16:35] <daftykins> CoJaBo: got any of the virtualbox-dkms stuff on?
[16:36] <CoJaBo> yep
[16:36] <daftykins> hmm if it's lacking USB support it's beyond my experience then, i did find an article saying it lives in multiverse these days
[16:37] <CoJaBo> I have to download it from oracle, but oracle doesn't make "-ubuntu" versions. I don't remember how I fixed it the last time
[16:37] <auronandace> CoJaBo: vbox has usb support, for usb2 support you download an extention pack from oracle, as was pointed out earlier
[16:37] <daftykins> CoJaBo: they have a PPA, purge the packages then see - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[16:37] <CoJaBo> auronandace: Yes, but *how* is the question
[16:38] <auronandace> CoJaBo: you go to the vbox website to download it
[16:38] <CoJaBo> auronandace: It doesn't work because the version doesn't match
[16:39] <auronandace> CoJaBo: then you use the version that matches
[16:39] <daftykins> follow my link and instructions :)
[16:39] <CoJaBo> auronandace: And I find that how?
[16:39] <daftykins> then you can be using v5
[16:41] <auronandace> CoJaBo: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/
[16:42] <CoJaBo> auronandace: Gives a version mismatch error; "expected 000001 got 000002" or something
[16:43] <daftykins> CoJaBo: just follow what i suggested and not the above
[16:43] <daftykins> don't grab debs direct, use the PPA!
[16:43] <CoJaBo> I've had pretty disasterous results with PPAs before..
[16:44] <auronandace> the extention pack isn't a .deb
[16:44] <OnceMe> I edited /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and added prepend for google dns, however /etc/resolv.conf is not re-generated on reboot, did I missed something?
[16:44] <daftykins> OnceMe: that's not the way to do it at all, edit network manager.
[16:45] <OnceMe> how?
[16:45] <daftykins> edit your interface settings by opening it from the toolbar
[16:45] <zproc> hm, upgraded from a fresh 15.04 install and unity tweak tols miss some packages
[16:45] <OnceMe> I see Automatic DHCP
[16:45] <OnceMe> and additional nameservers
[16:45] <zproc> any idea?
[16:45] <OnceMe> where do I edit and remove 127.0.0.1
[16:46] <daftykins> you won't remove localhost at all because that is there due to dnsmasq usage with resolvconf
[16:46] <daftykins> also i believe it's 127.0.1.1 not 127.0.0.1 :)
[16:47] <CoJaBo> ..it might be faster to just deal with the USB1 speeds :/
[16:47] <daftykins> or network your data *cough*
[16:48] <SCHAAP137> USB1... is quite slow
[16:49] <daftykins> OnceMe: change it to Automatic (DHCP) Address only, then enter your preferred DNS servers - save the profile, then select it by clicking once on the network icon then on the network profile
[16:50] <tmwsiy> I am running lighttpd on 14.04 and need to get to 1.4.35 but 1.4.33 is all that is in the repo for trusty. Security is on me to upgrade and I would really rather not go to source if possible... Is there a PPA for lighttpd somewhere that I am missing?
[16:50] <CoJaBo> SCHAAP137: Yeh, I've noticed :/
[16:50] <daftykins> tmwsiy: you'd ahve to look for one, we don't offer nor support PPAs.
[16:50] <daftykins> *have
[16:52] <tmwsiy> Seems like the updated one s/b in trusty too going by the severity in openvas
[16:53] <zproc> So... installing Unity Tweak Tool in 15.10 didn't install unity-webapps-common, that's what was missing
[16:55] <zproc> 45uk415ru
[16:55] <zproc> oops
[16:56] <ioria> !info unity-webapps-common wily
[16:58] <khax> i just installed ubuntu 15.10 and its great :D
[16:58] <mbach_> hi
[16:58] <sharp_> Hey guys, I've been reading the documentation and googling for similar errors and the answer is to use aptitude but I'm trying to understand why.  The problem is that I'm trying to update php5-ldap, but it prevents it due to held packages.  I don't have any listed in dpkg as held.  When I use aptitude, the third choice I get is to upgrade a bunch o
[16:58] <sharp_> f packages from a specific repo I'm using.  What places can I check to see why that wouldn't just be automatic?
[16:59] <sharp_> By automatic, I mean a part of a dist-upgrade.
[16:59] <estudiante> estudiante
[17:00] <daftykins> sharp_: yeah run a dist-upgrade
[17:00] <daftykins> that should sort anything kept back
[17:00] <sharp_> daftykins: that's the problem, it doesn't.
[17:01] <OerHeks> sharp_, if that repo has newer versions, those are used.
[17:01] <sharp_> daftykins: It skips the php5-ldap package
[17:01] <daftykins> hmm surely you've pinned it somehow
[17:01] <OerHeks> sounds like dependencies not matching
[17:01] <sharp_> daftykins: however if I use aptitude, I can force these other packages which are also silently skipped to update.
[17:01] <sharp_> And then the problem is solved.
[17:02] <sharp_> Why are those packages silently skipped though?
[17:02] <daftykins> a pastebin that shows this up might be handy
[17:02] <OerHeks> because of you specific repo, sharp.
[17:03] <bekks> sharp_: Just pastebin the output of "cat /etc/issue; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:06] <sharp_> Here's the pastebin of the "fix" http://pastebin.com/K27UGjHn
[17:07] <ioria> what is ' {u}  ' ?
[17:07] <sharp_> ioria: dunno, never looked.  It's a part of the kernels though so it's probably a part of the AWS image.
[17:07] <ioria> ok
[17:08] <sharp_> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/K27UGjHn here's that pastebin
[17:09] <daftykins> sharp_: yep some nasty PPA, can you share what bekks asked of you? we don't support PPAs.
[17:10] <sharp_> daftykins: Because I upgraded it, the results are just going to be 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:10] <SCHAAP137> i just installed kubuntu-desktop just to try something different than MATE/GNOME3/XMonad... i have a question, can KDE be started from lightdm ?
[17:10] <SCHAAP137> or do i need to use sddm?
[17:10] <bekks> SCHAAP137: KDE starts fine from lightdm.
[17:11] <sharp_> daftykins: I'm not looking for support on the ppa, I'm trying to understand why I have to use aptitude to get that update instead of it just being a part of the dist-upgrade
[17:11] <SCHAAP137> cool, then i'll just keep lightdm as default DM
[17:11] <SCHAAP137> thanks bekks
[17:11] <daftykins> sharp_: we want to see the output. is it really going to be so hard for you? :)
[17:11] <bekks> sharp_: you dont have to use aptitude at all.
[17:11] <sharp_> bekks:I do or it errors.
[17:11] <sharp_> bekks:and prevents the dist-upgrade
[17:11] <bekks> sharp_: Then you have to fix the errors instead using workarounds.
[17:11] <bekks> sharp_: Show us the output requested please.
[17:13] <sharp_> bekks: http://pastebin.com/19Xm1snY
[17:13] <sharp_> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/19Xm1snY
[17:14] <sharp_> Thanks for looking at this by the way.
[17:14] <daftykins> oh and it's an ec2 VM as well
[17:14] <bekks> Quite a neat amount of PPA.
[17:14] <sharp_> daftykins: How does it being an EC2 vm affect this?
[17:15] <daftykins> sharp_: just that you should have said from the beginning
[17:15] <bekks> And since you already solved the issue, there is no way to show you how to solve it without aptitude, and no way to show you what dist-upgrade would be doing :)
[17:15] <sharp_> bekks:  It's just one of 5 that have emerged this way.  There'll be more.
[17:15] <daftykins> i think we're being told it's still an issue
[17:15] <sharp_> bekks:  I can find the error.
[17:15] <bekks> sharp_: you cant, since you solved it :)
[17:16] <bekks> sharp_: there is no error anymore on that box.
[17:16] <daftykins> but yeah, ancient distro full to the brim of PPAs = blargh.
[17:16] <bekks> daftykins++
[17:16] <sharp_> bekks: There's at least 20 more that will behave this way.
[17:16] <daftykins> move to 14.04.
[17:16] <bekks> sharp_: Then show us the output of the commands requested from thos boxes.
[17:16] <sharp_> bekks:  They're all ansible'd the same way.
[17:16] <sharp_> bekks: Gotta find one.  One sec.
[17:17] <sharp_> daftykins:  It's on a list of things to do, but it's further out than this fix. :(
[17:17] <daftykins> sharp_: good luck with that.
[17:18] <daftykins> beauty of virt is you can spin up a replacement in seconds, transfer data and be done in short order
[17:18] <newuesr> Hi. I'm new to Linux, and I have a bit of a problem.
[17:18] <daftykins> ask away with detail, newuesr
[17:18] <newuesr> I removed the hard drive indicators from the panel on the left side, and I don't know how to get them back
[17:19] <lexflex> hi
[17:19] <Guest58241> hi evrybody
[17:20] <lexflex> can anyone tell me where i should put my xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap so it is executed on login? i tried ~/.xinitrc but it's not working
[17:24] <SCHAAP137> hmm, i seem to get a broken package warning, after installing kubuntu-desktop on my system
[17:24] <SCHAAP137> the proposed fix is failing as welel
[17:24] <SCHAAP137> *well
[17:26] <SCHAAP137> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12895747/
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: beat me to it
[17:27] <SCHAAP137> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12895756/
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: what is the output of:   apt-cache policy account-plugin-google kde-config-telepathy-accounts
[17:27] <SCHAAP137> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12895761/
[17:27] <ThatRandomPerson> Gonna try 15.10 this afternoon
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: then there is a package overlap. I suggest you report a bug
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: not hard to work around (for now)
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: but the issue needs flagging up so the overlap can be resolved
[17:29] <SCHAAP137> okay, how/where do i report a bug?
[17:29] <SCHAAP137> nice, that worked, thanks
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: run:  ubuntu-bug kde-config-telepathy-accounts      and it will start the process for you
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: np, usually this happens when people use PPAs but you are using the official packages
[17:32] <ThatRandomPerson> How's everybody doing?
[17:32] <SCHAAP137> how should i describe it? "package overlap in 15.10, account-plugion-google with kde-config-telepathy-accounts" ?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: sounds good to me
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> put your pastebin texts in the bug too
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: highlights the issue perfectly :)
[17:33] <SCHAAP137> ah, someone else reported the same thing, 3 hours ago
[17:33] <SCHAAP137> trying to install kubuntu-full instead of kubuntu-desktop
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: then you can subscribe to the same bug with "This affects me too"
[17:33] <SCHAAP137> yep, I just did, cool.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: nice, gets stuff fixed
[17:35] <compdoc> Ubuntu 15.10: KVM vs. Xen vs. VirtualBox Virtualization Performance:  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1510-virt&num=5
[17:36] <ps10gel> Anyone else having trouble with 15.10 booting on c4 instances in EC2? They appear to be kernel panicking or something
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: I love how it says the kernel compile in virtualbox was much slower (5 seconds) hahahaha
[17:39] <SCHAAP137> cool, added my pastes as well now ActionParsnip
[17:39] <SCHAAP137> https://bugs.launchpad.net/account-plugins/+bug/1493003
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: nice
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> SCHAAP137: there will be an update where one package has the file, and the other doesn't. Or neither does and it is put in a different package all-together
[17:41] <SCHAAP137> ActionParsnip: cool, that seems like a sensible solution to me
[17:43] <bilb_ono> has anyone ever gotten the error message: “Try ‘ap-get -f install’ with no packages’
[17:43] <bilb_ono> I am trying to install vim. via sudo apt-get install vim
[17:43] <bilb_ono> and its suggestion doesn’t help
[17:44] <TJ-> SCHAAP137: I've updated the report correctly
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> bilb_ono: wich ubuntu version?
[17:44] <bilb_ono> 12.04
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> bilb_ono: have any ppa's installed?
[17:45] <SCHAAP137> nice TJ-
[17:45] <bilb_ono> lotuspsychje idk theres a bunch of stuff installed via dkpg. Someone sent me a thumb drive full of .debs that I installed
[17:45] <bilb_ono> i think thats what messed it up
[17:46] <ioria> bilb_ono, apt-cache policy vim
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> bilb_ono: can you pastebin us the error from the vim install
[17:47] <gabriel_> i was installing ubuntu server on my laptop and it stopped when it was installing "post-installation mime-support" and it is fronzen in 85% of installation process. Anybody know what can i do? restart?
[17:48] <ps10gel> Looks like 15.10 won't boot on an m4 instance either. Works on t2.medium, won't boot on c4.xlarge or m4.xlarge
[17:48] <Rexter> bilb_ono: vim-gtk - Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GTK2 GUI
[17:48] <Rexter> Is this what you are looking for?
[17:50] <bilb_ono> umm yeah. well i thought just vim thats what ive always done in the past
[17:50] <bilb_ono> ill try and get the pastebin
[17:51] <howudodat> is there a channel I can ask questions about ubuntu one sso?
[17:51] <daftykins> ps10gel: talk to amazon, not really this channel's problem
[17:52] <sakrecoer_> trying to install xubuntu 15.10 on a machine with UEFI. i  have no need for the windows that came along, so i booted  the liveUSB, fine, Now chosing erase the disk and install  ubuntu gives me a strange error, it can't mount the boot  partition....
[17:53] <sakrecoer_> manual partition lead me to freeze when applying partition  table.
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> !one | howudodat
[17:54] <sakrecoer_> check media on first boot prompt gives no error
[17:54] <sakrecoer_> what am i missing?
[17:55] <teward> lotuspsychje: i think they're asking about the Single SIgn On system, not the Ubuntu One backup system.
[17:55] <Rexter> bilb_ono: maybe vi is what you are looking for
[17:55] <wileee> !uefi | sakrecoer_ have you looked at
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> teward: oh my bad
[17:56] <Vanfanel> Setting TTY console font using dpkg-reconfigure console-setup only works until reboot: the new font isn't kept among reboots. Is this a known problem??
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: can this help mate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn
[17:58] <gabriel_> the process of installation ubuntu server is frozen, anybody know what can i do?
[17:58] <daftykins> gabriel_: restart it
[17:58] <howudodat> ubottu: thanks for the info, I am not interested in the file and music, but in order to post bugs, you need a u-one account (at least it seems). and I cant get it to verify my email, even after using 3 different emails, one with a disabled spam filter
[17:58] <gabriel_> daftykins: i can go to a terminal using cntrl+alt+f2 , nothing to do?
[17:59] <sakrecoer_> thanks wileee , while i chose erase disk and install ubuntu, the windows thing got wiped... so i have no means to acces the firmware...
[18:00] <wileee> sakrecoer_, Did you actually rewrite the partition table, you used this term?
[18:00] <sakrecoer_> wileee: afterwards, i tried that yes..
[18:01] <daftykins> gabriel_: not really. are you installing 15.10 server?
[18:01] <wileee> sakrecoer_, Just a guess here but now it is an issue of being booted in correctly, if you are uefi booted and wipe the table, my guess a reboot is in order to what is appropriate, legacy or uefi.
[18:02] <howudodat> going here: https://forms.canonical.com/sso-support/ or here: https://forms.canonical.com/lp-login-support/ provides a "form submit" but no way to enter my email or the problem I'm having.  It's either really stupid, or super intelligent and can read my mind :)
[18:02] <teward> howudodat: if you are having issues with the SSO system, you may wish to refer to https://forms.canonical.com/sso-support/, which will take you to the SSO support page
[18:02] <teward> howudodat: you select a category from the dropdown then it pops up entry boxes
[18:02] <teward> howudodat: 'Other' may be the category you want
[18:02] <sakrecoer_> wileee: i have rebooted many times... but there is nothing left on the disk.. except a partialy finished partiotion table..
[18:02] <sakrecoer_> the liveUSB boots fine tho..
[18:03] <ghabit> hi
[18:03] <howudodat> teward: :) .. well look at that...all this time I've been choosing the most logical choice: logging in, or creating a new account.  that'll teach me
[18:03] <gabriel_> daftykins: 14.04LTS i restartet yet, almost i don't lossed my main ubuntu
[18:03] <gabriel_> :D
[18:03] <asad_> I just installed ubuntu 15.10. My touchpad doesn't seem to work. Can someone help out, please?
[18:04] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello.
[18:04] <wileee> sakrecoer_, So you want a legacy boot in the end? Or we are just where we're at due to no install so far?
[18:05] <sakrecoer_> wileee: i'm not sure what to say.. i can't chose anything else then UEFI in bios...
[18:05] <daftykins> gabriel_: don't really follow you there
[18:05] <daftykins> asad_: what make and model computer?
[18:05] <sakrecoer_> and once the partition is being made at install i get "partition 1 (sda) in /boot/efi/ could not be mounted
[18:05] <sakrecoer_> wileee:
[18:05] <asad_> daftykins: It's a dell inspiron 7348.
[18:05] <teward> howudodat: you'll need a lot of patience though, i bet they get a lot of messages/tickets, so it may take time for them to get to your issue/request
[18:06] <daftykins> asad_: are we talking zero movement - but the buttons click ok?
[18:06] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: your symptoms sound like the installer got itself messed up by deleting the existing ESP of the disk, whilst still expecting it to be there
[18:06] <BlueProtoman> 15.10 came out today, right?
[18:06] <sakrecoer_> TJ- yes, the existin ESP got whiped indeed...
[18:06] <devilguy> У кого какой fps в csgo ?
[18:06] <asad_> daftykins: Zero movement. The touchscreen works though. The touchpad doesn't...
[18:06] <teward> BlueProtoman: yes, it was released several hours ago, I believe
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !isitoutyet | BlueProtoman
[18:07] <wileee> sakrecoer_, Cool, better help here on your issue 'UEFI' than me here now, always really, heh. Someone will help, should not be a huge problem.
[18:07] <daftykins> asad_: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give any clues?
[18:07] <BlueProtoman> twelfther, lotuspsychje: Cool.  Now to upgrade.  You recommend wiping my hard drive instead of just updating the packages, right?
[18:07] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: should i try recreate the liveUSB?
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !ru | devilguy
[18:07] <sakrecoer_> i greatly appreciate your help wileee , result or not :)
[18:07] <realloc1> do you already help with questions about 15.10?
[18:08] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: If you start the Installer using "Try Ubuntu" so you have a fully usable desktop, you could try using a terminal to manually get the disk partitioned before starting Ubiquity (the GUI installer application) - that may be enough to sort it out
[18:08] <daftykins> realloc1: yes as per topic
[18:08] <asad_> daftykins: Should I show you the text in that file? I don't understand it.
[18:08] <wileee> sakrecoer_, No problem, efficient help is my goal.
[18:08] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: tried that already. no success..
[18:08] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: same problem in there
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> BlueProtoman: backups can be handy if you want to..
[18:08] <daftykins> asad_: yeah if you could install pastebinit and run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:08] <realloc1> perfect^^ I've installed it today and I get a total system freeze when visiting any website with wifi
[18:09] <BlueProtoman> lotuspsychje: I never would've imagined.  Phew, you just saved me from having to start all of my homework from scratch.
[18:09] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: when the installer fails, have you looked at its logs (partman especially) to see what is going wrong. The installer is VERY verbose in logging what it is doing (check under /var/log/ and sub-directories there)
[18:09] <BlueProtoman> lotuspsychje: Real-talk; why is it people always recommend reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch instead of just upgrading the packages?
[18:09] <realloc1> I'm using the m$ surface pro 2 with the marvell wifi hardware..
[18:09] <asad_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896069/
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> BlueProtoman: you can upgarde fine, but fresh installs are always nice
[18:10] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: let me try with the "try ubuntu" option again and get back to you, thanks, brb
[18:10] <daftykins> asad_: ok will take a glance, did you upgrade to 15.10 or was this a clean installation?
[18:10] <howudodat> is there a wiki / tutorial on best practices for multi-user login scenario?  my wifes computer is shared between her and our daughter.  I've tried setting multi-user.target and using startx on tty1 and tty2.  I have also tried using gdm and just "switching users".  both are causing problems for me.  I was hoping there might be a good and current tutorial so I could 2x cehck my work before posting bug reports or help requests
[18:11] <BlueProtoman> lotuspsychje: Why?
[18:11] <asad_> daftykins: I was running 14.04 before. I backed up everything and did a clean install.
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> BlueProtoman: no leftovers from previous install
[18:11] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: nobody who has ever worked in IT truly believes in upgrades :)
[18:11] <lucidguy> Can you no longer do-release-upgrade from 10.04 server?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | lucidguy
[18:12] <daftykins> lucidguy: you shouldn't be on 10.04 server :) it died earlier this year
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> BlueProtoman: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes
[18:12] <BlueProtoman> lotuspsychje, daftykins: Okay, so how can I get a list of packages I installed (and PPAs I installed them from), and then reinstall them all en masse when I reinstall?
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> BlueProtoman: we dont support ppa's sorry
[18:13] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: what should i be looking for in the partman log?
[18:13] <BlueProtoman> lotuspsychje: I'm not asking about a PPA-specific question, I just want to know how I can get a list of all the ones I have installed, then re-add them all at once.
[18:13] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: well that'd be a bad idea since packages for Wily might not exist from your PPAs yet.
[18:13] <BlueProtoman> Then I guess I'll just wait to upgrade until the semester ends.
[18:14] <BlueProtoman> Question still stands, though.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | BlueProtoman if you wanna clean install 15.10
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> BlueProtoman: only for your official packages, not ppa
[18:14] <daftykins> asad_: this looks worth a go - http://askubuntu.com/questions/623598/dell-inspiron-7347-inactive-cursor-with-my-touchpad-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:15] <BlueProtoman> lotuspsychje: I don't need to create a full CD, I'd be happy with just a list of all the packages I've actually installed
[18:15] <BlueProtoman> (and then feeding that list into apt-get some time in mid-December)'
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> BlueProtoman: thats what aptoncd do..
[18:16] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: In that or the syslog; any sign of it stuck in a loop, or no longer advancing the timestamps (indicating it has blocked waiting for something). Also check the kern.log in case there's a hardware issue
[18:17] <howudodat> BlueProtoman: check out the first reply here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[18:17] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: FAT-fs (sda1) can't find valid fat system
[18:18] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: last entry of kern.log
[18:19] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: syslog says wrong fs type, bad optio, bad superblock on /dev/sda1
[18:19] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: OK, that sounds like it may be referring to the EFI System Partition (ESP). in a terminal do "sudo blkid /dev/sda1" see what it thinks
[18:20] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: tonnes of results online for how to generate a package list, usually involves dpkg --get-selections > ~/file
[18:20] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: i still think that is a mistake though, PPA use will make your task a mess :)
[18:20] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: How so?
[18:21] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: Label="recovery" UUID="*lots of numbers*" TYPE="ntfs" PARTBALE="EFI System PArtition" PARTUUID="*lots of numers*"
[18:21] <TJ-> BlueProtoman: 'debfoster' will generate the list of top-level packages, ensuring the auto-install/remove dependency graph is maintained, too
[18:21] <goddard> what is a good PDF editor
[18:21] <fx159> hello, is there anything I can do to debug reboot problems? my server gets stuck after displaying "all processes ended after 2 seconds", I'm using 14.04.3
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> goddard: inkscape perhaps?
[18:21] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: That's VERY interesting; If sda1 is NTFS AND is really the EFI SP, it ought to be a FAT file-system
[18:22] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: yeah, its so strange...
[18:22] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: in case there are other partitions recognised try "sudo blkid /dev/sda*"
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> fx159: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys know?
[18:23] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: last time i tried, while the disk was reformated, it said it found a another system that might require bios and that continuing would make it difficult to boot into something requiring bios
[18:23] <fx159> lotuspsychje: will try...
[18:23] <asad_> daftykins: I don't know what that did, but it's working now... :D
[18:23] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: also, check with "sudo file -s /dev/sda1" ... I'd expect something similar to mine: "/dev/sda2: DOS/MBR boot sector, code offset 0x3c+2, OEM-ID "mkfs.fat", sectors/cluster 4, root entries 512, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/FAT 256, sectors/track 63, heads 255, hidden sectors 16418, sectors 262144 (volumes > 32 MB) , serial number 0x1192744d, label: "BOOT.ESP   ", FAT (16 bit)"
[18:24] <daftykins> asad_: :) basically changed driver, cool, glad it worked :)
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | daftykins nice 15.10 solving!
[18:25] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: sudo file -s gives me lots of things but ntfs in "TYPE="
[18:26] <daftykins> ^_^
[18:26] <sakrecoer_> TJ-:  sorry. no, that was blkid
[18:26] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: Right, so it is definitely NTFS, not just a wrong marker. What make/model PC is it? It seems it has NTFS support built-in to the firmware
[18:26] <Mattias> Upgraded to 15.04, had issues with graphics, removed all graphics drivers and installed the latest nvidia. Now, when I start ubuntu normally I don't even get to console, blank screen and monitor goes offline. Only works if I start in recovery mode for some reason. Which would suggest the drivers are installed, since I get full resolution in recovery.
[18:26] <Mattias> How can I get normal mode to work? -.-
[18:26] <sakrecoer_> Packard Bell
[18:27] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: Packard Bell
[18:27] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: EasyNote TE
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> Mattias: wich grafix card chipset and driver loaded?
[18:28] <johnny_linux> 1clear
[18:29] <SuperLag> love so much that I did an update, and now my Ubuntu system won't even boot... even into rescue mode.
[18:29] <SuperLag> It's hung at "Loading initial ramdisk ..."
[18:29] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: OK, so if you're happy for all of Windows to be blown away; reformat that partition as FAT with "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1"
[18:30] <SuperLag> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, btw
[18:30] <Mattias> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896197/
[18:30] <wileee> SuperLag, less drama more facts please for the channel.
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> Mattias: thats an optimus card?
[18:31] <Mattias> lotuspsychje: No, this is not the mobile version. I've had this card working fine before upgrading to 15.04
[18:31] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: done, bye bye windows, thanks for nothing :) now?
[18:31] <Mattias> lotuspsychje: This is the real desktop one, powerful one :P
[18:32] <TJ-> sakrecoer_: in *theory* re-running the installer should mean it is happy with the boot partition now
[18:32] <sakrecoer_> ok i will try now :)
[18:35] <Bashing-om> Mattias: Nvidia recommends the 352 version driver for that card . What driver is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[18:35] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: no complain about disk mounting so far!!! <3 YES
[18:35] <Mattias> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896237/  interesting, I thought I removed the old ones, why are they showing up there -.-
[18:36] <Mattias> Bashing-om: and 352 is not showing up...
[18:36] <Mattias> I installed it manually.
[18:36] <Mattias> (which is why I now get full resolution in recovery as well.)
[18:36] <Bashing-om> Mattias: look'n .
[18:36] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: you roc!!!! i'm sendin you mag goodvibes!
[18:37] <sakrecoer_> TJ-: THANKS a million!!!!
[18:38] <Mattias> Bashing-om: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* <-- no matches found -.-
[18:38] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[18:38] <Bashing-om> mat status 'rc' is removed but config files remain . presently there is no driver installed . In recovery mode the graphics are driven by the kernel's driver .
[18:39] <ubuntu-mate> how can I help
[18:39] <Mattias> Bashing-om: Interesting... I'll run the 352 install again
[18:39] <nbusrone> Hi , I would like to know what's the different between compression format ? I read at wiki but with vary of info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archive_formats.Any full guide on ubuntu ?
[18:39] <Guest93296> hi
[18:39] <Bashing-om> Mattias: A "manual" install from OEM ? Is there a UN-install script ?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: you want to help, or get help?
[18:40] <Guest93296> is very good and nice ubuntu i love ubuntu
[18:40] <Mattias> Bashing-om: downloaded from nvidia. simple shell script (.run file)
[18:40] <ubuntu-mate> is ubuntu better than windows for software development_
[18:41] <Mattias> Bashing-om: in Console now, running it again
[18:41] <nbusrone> Purpose is to compress photo and files and even it get damage ,  i still can retrieve part of the file compression.Sometimes , .7z took too long to open a simple 1mb photo extracting them while .zip takes open instantly .What are those different on ar.gz, .tgz, .tar.Z, .tar.bz2, .tbz2, .tar.lzma, .tlz ????
[18:41] <Mattias> Bashing-om: Just got to love terminal multiplexers :)
[18:41] <Mattias> Bashing-om: It says "drivers already installed on system"
[18:41] <Bashing-om> Mattias: Maybe ' sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-VERSION-pkg1.run --uninstall ' ??
[18:41] <Mattias> Bashing-om: and it detects 352.55
[18:42] <Mattias> Ok, I'll uninstall first
[18:42] <ubuntu-mate> I am running ubuntu from virtualbox but I am thinking of changing to native Ubuntu
[18:43] <Mattias> Bashing-om: Do you recommend a ppa over the original drivers from nvidia?
[18:43] <BlueProtoman> ubuntu-mate: Everyone in this channel will say yes.  I am no exception.
[18:43] <Mattias> Bashing-om: uninstall was completed successfully
[18:44] <BlueProtoman> ubuntu-mate: Barring anything designed by Microsoft (C#, VB, F#) or Apple (Objective C, Swift), that is.  There is support for some of that, but not as much as, say, for Ruby or C++ or Python.
[18:44] <ubuntu-mate> thanks - you made up my mind. Windows is just too slow and insecure.
[18:45] <BlueProtoman> ubuntu-mate: Welcome to the rabbit hole, hombre.
[18:45] <Bashing-om> Mattias: The 1st recomendation will always be from our repository . Then PPA, if al else fails do the OEM thing  as a means of last resort .
[18:45] <Mattias> ubuntu-mate: dual-boot is fine, using 100% ubuntu at work and 50% at home. Mostly due to some games still not running under linux
[18:45] <rudolf_> Hi
[18:45] <BlueProtoman> ubuntu-mate: What Mattias said.  Also, some software like Unity 3D.
[18:46] <Mattias> Bashing-om: installed the driver again after uninstall. Going to reboot and try :)
[18:46] <rudolf_> I just installed windows 8 over ubuntu and I have got the dual boot menu using EasyBCD but it does not seem good enough. The dual boot menu is from windows and windows boots completely before giving me the option to select OS.
[18:46] <indre> Wazaaaa!
[18:47] <rudolf_> How do I get back to my default grub without booting into windows?
[18:47] <EriC^^> rudolf_: boot into ubuntu, type sudo grub-install
[18:47] <EriC^^> and sudo update-grub
[18:49] <ubuntu-mate> the problem with windows is that all the needed security software is slowing it down *I am using Avast Internet security and MalwareBytes Anti-Malware
[18:49] <rudolf_> All right...thanks EriC^^
[18:50] <Mattias> That did not work, in recovery now again
[18:50] <ubuntu-mate> also Micosoft is doing a lot of unwanted logging in the background
[18:50] <EriC^^> rudolf_: no problem
[18:50] <ubuntu-mate> I think it is best to install ubuntu as dualboot
[18:51] <ricky-> i have what i think is going to be a silly question. running a shell i'm trying to tar -zxvf a tar.gz file and it's not extracting but printing contents. i chmod the file and made it executable
[18:52] <daftykins> ricky-: archives do not need chmox +x, you do however need permissions where it's attempting to extract to
[18:52] <daftykins> ricky-: perhaps it's just extracting to a folder you aren't noticing?
[18:52] <Bashing-om> Mattias: ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ; dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .. see what we can do .
[18:53] <ubuntu-mate> I love this chat
[18:53] <ricky-> it's on a shell server with no other files/folders. i'll remove chmod+x real quick and try again
[18:53] <Mattias> Bashing-om: had a similar problem at work after upgrading to 15.04 (wrong resolution, reinstall drivers to fix) but that worked fine there... it's not the same gfx card though, 750 Ti at work I believe.
[18:54] <Mattias> Bashing-om: So far it found the 352.55 installer. It's still running though.
[18:54] <rudolf_> EriC^^: "sudo grub-install" says "device not specified"
[18:55] <EriC^^> rudolf_: that's odd, if you're using uefi it shouldn't say that
[18:55] <EriC^^> type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[18:56] <rudolf_> "ls: cannot access /sys/firmware/efi: No such file or directory"
[18:56] <EriC^^> rudolf_: ok, so ubuntu is installed in legacy mode
[18:56] <Mattias> Bashing-om: Will probably take a while, several TB's of data to scan through :)
[18:56] <EriC^^> rudolf_: how did you install win8? type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:57] <rudolf_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/rrrj
[19:00] <EriC^^> rudolf_: ok, type sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[19:00] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[19:01] <Mattias> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896381/
[19:02] <rudolf_> EriC^^: What is this flexnet? The command did not give an error but it said that sector 32 is being used by a program "flexnet"
[19:03] <EriC^^> rudolf_: oh, that's a program that's made so nobody can overwrite the bootloader
[19:03] <daftykins> Mattias: yeah you really shouldn't be using the manual download to install nvidia drivers.
[19:03] <EriC^^> rudolf_: you have to nuke it with dd
[19:03] <EriC^^> rudolf_: it might still work without nuking though, try rebooting
[19:03] <rudolf_> ok..lemme try
[19:04] <Mattias> daftykins: Well, worked fine at work. Apparently not at home -.-
[19:05] <Mattias> daftykins: I did try the default ubuntu package first though, same problem there. No console or anything after grub, screen just goes off. Recovery always works.
[19:05] <daftykins> Mattias: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[19:05] <Mattias> daftykins: no packages found with that
[19:05] <daftykins> Mattias: is that installer still running, or?
[19:05] <daftykins> Mattias: run it, i saw your command output and there *are* some configs left.
[19:05] <Mattias> daftykins: installer finished successfully.
[19:05] <Bashing-om> Mattias: IF it were me . I would run the nvidia script as "uninstall" ..purge nvidia*, remove ALL the old driver config files, and use  'autoinstaller' then to install the recommended driver from our repository .
[19:05] <daftykins> ^ :)
[19:05] <ioria> if you install with .run , i remember an --unistall  flag
[19:06] <Mattias> ioria: yeah, I ran that a moment to reinstall.
[19:06]  * Mattias switches to console now
[19:07] <Bashing-om> Mattias: ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' . The state is rc, the package is removed, but the config files are not removed ,
[19:07] <Mattias> Ok so, about this autoinstaller. Where do I find it?
[19:07] <Mattias> ah ok
[19:07] <Mattias> meh, going back into GUI. can't copy paste that command now :P
[19:07] <rudolf__> EriC^^: Thanks a lot...it works now :)
[19:07] <EriC^^> rudolf__: great, no problem :)
[19:09] <Bashing-om> Mattias: You have it installed by default . when you get to this point to reinstall .. ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' :) .
[19:09] <Mattias> Bashing-om: excellent piping skills btw ;)
[19:09] <Mattias> Saved it into a script
[19:10] <Bashing-om> Mattias: Well ,, nawww .. I just been araound a bit .
[19:11] <Mattias> I have some excellent piping commands as well, just so slow to create them :) luckily you can make scripts to save the good ones in
[19:11] <Mattias> I believe destroy all software screencast has videos on creating nice commands :)
[19:12] <circle> Mattias: you are an amoeba
[19:12] <Mattias> circle: Oh, you play Eclipse as well?
[19:12] <ashish> hey
[19:12] <Guest50381> hehh
[19:12] <circle> Mattias: yes
[19:13] <Bashing-om> Mattias: 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak ' I have seen cases where that file does not get over-ridden in the new driver install .
[19:13] <Guest50381> chitchat
[19:13] <Guest50381> nds
[19:13] <Mattias> Bashing-om: seems I have no xorg.conf right now, just xorg.conf.* with various names
[19:14] <daftykins> Mattias: nobody has a xorg.conf anymore. not needed.
[19:14] <ashish_> ashish
[19:14] <Mattias> autoinstalling now
[19:14] <Bashing-om> Mattias: Well ! in the new install, if it is not created, we make up one (default) . With the proprietary driver, that file is required .
[19:14] <Mattias> it's install 346 -.-
[19:15] <genii> !xorgconf | daftykins
[19:15] <ashish_> nopes346
[19:15] <Bashing-om> Mattias: We take the system's recomendation .
[19:15] <daftykins> genii: ;)
[19:15] <Mattias> I'm fine with that, I went with ubuntu to be rid of hassles. I remember the good old days in gentoo. Arch made that a little bit better though
[19:16] <ioria> gentoo is a nightmare
[19:16] <Mattias> ioria: Well, it worked fine for me
[19:16] <Mattias> Compiling might just take time
[19:16] <daftykins> Mattias: try and keep it to support :) you can chat over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:16] <ioria> Mattias, i'm very happy for you ...
[19:17] <Mattias> Great, time for a reboot to see if this helps :)
[19:17] <Bashing-om> Mattias: I came from slackware to 'buntu, I will take 'buntu any day !
[19:18] <parityDrive> I'm trying to dual boot Win10 and Ubuntu.
[19:18] <odt> hi. 15.10. no sound via intel sunrise point HD audio (skylake)
[19:18] <parityDrive> in the installer its showing Win10 (efi)
[19:18] <daftykins> parityDrive: and? do you have a question/problem?
[19:18] <odt> alsa-daily dkms is only for 15.04 and won't compile on 15.10
[19:18] <parityDrive> I've created a /efi, & all the other partitions.
[19:18] <parityDrive> but when I start my PC, I get grub command line...
[19:19] <daftykins> parityDrive: shouldn't need to, if win10 was installed as EFI already it should just make use of them during the installer.
[19:19] <ashish_> ashish
[19:19] <parityDrive> That's my issue.
[19:19] <EriC^^> parityDrive: you don't need to, ubuntu can use the win10 one
[19:19] <parityDrive> Ok why am I getting grub cmdline vs boot menu?
[19:19] <parityDrive> i can exit and it boots into windows but that's pretty much it.
[19:19] <Mattias> Bashing-om: It works now :)
[19:19] <Mattias> Thanks for the help!
[19:20] <parityDrive> I've tried without making /efi previously and got the same thing.
[19:20] <parityDrive> I'm installing Ubuntu to sdb (windows is on sda)
[19:20] <parityDrive> So I honestly don't know what to do, I've looked around and can't find anything that helps. :(
[19:21] <EriC^^> parityDrive: ok, type ls -l in grub
[19:21] <ashish_> hey
[19:21] <EriC^^> is it grub> or grub rescue> ?
[19:21] <daftykins> hello
[19:21] <parityDrive> Help me Obi Wan, you are my only help
[19:21] <parityDrive> grub >
[19:21] <parityDrive> fml i can't satire right.
[19:21] <ashish_> jnkdk
[19:21] <ashish_> -l
[19:22] <EriC^^> parityDrive: ok, try ls -l
[19:22] <parityDrive> I need to reboot :|
[19:22] <TJ-> parityDrive: you get the GRUB command-line if there is no /boot/grub/grub.cfg, which is generated by "update-grub"
[19:22] <parityDrive> Ok
[19:22] <parityDrive> That makes sense but what do I do?
[19:22] <parityDrive> Just downloaded Boot-Repair
[19:22] <erkan^> http://picpaste.com/pics/Schermafdruk-Nieuwe_printer-hqzt9cNM.1445541454.png --> I cannot scroll to down and ALT + F7 doesn't work. can someone help me please?
[19:23] <TJ-> parityDrive: boot a Live ISO, chroot-mount the target and run "update-grub" in it
[19:23] <regum> hi, can i ask here about Homebank?
[19:23] <TJ-> parityDrive: Or, manually boot the system from the GRUB command-line once... run "sudo update-grub", and its fixed
[19:24] <parityDrive> so if in the installer i left the boot default (sda), i would chroot-mount sda?
[19:24] <parityDrive> sorry kind of nooby still
[19:24] <Bashing-om> Mattias: :) .. See, use the tools provided .. piece of cake ..'buntu is easy !
[19:24] <parityDrive> I tried joining #ubuntu-beginners but it redirected me here.
[19:24] <TJ-> parityDrive: not quite. sda is the entire drive. You'd need sdaX (the partition number)
[19:24] <parityDrive> sda1 i believe
[19:26] <Mattias> Bashing-om: As long as I can have my trusty i3 wm I'll be fine in any distro ;)
[19:26] <Mattias> Nobody could guess I'm running ubuntu with how my system looks like ;)
[19:26] <genii> regum: If it seems to be running properly but you're just unsure about how to use it, probably better to go read the documentation at http://homebank.free.fr/help/index.html
[19:26] <TJ-> parityDrive: On an UEFI system the boot process is generally UEFI boot manager > grub core.img (/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi) > ($root)/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod > ($root)/grub/grub.cfg > ($root)/vmlinuz-$VERSION + ($root)/initrd.img-$VERSION > Linux booting
[19:27] <regum> genii, yeah, but I've gone there already
[19:27] <parityDrive> ok...
[19:27] <parityDrive> so when I get the grub >
[19:27] <parityDrive> I've read just to type sudo grub-update
[19:27] <parityDrive> and it should work.
[19:28] <EriC^^> no, you have to boot first
[19:28] <parityDrive> ok boot into the OS, open term, run command?
[19:28] <TJ-> parityDrive: The EFI System Partition (EFI SP) is usually a FAT file-system, and contains the operating-system boot-loader files (for Windows, Linux, etc.). GRUB will expect to find another file-system (its 'root' file-system) where its modules and grub.cfg files are. That is either part of the Ubuntu/Linux root file-system partition, OR, a separate /boot/ file-sytem containing just the kernel images,
[19:28] <TJ-> supporting files, and GRUB.
[19:29] <parityDrive> Sorry I don't want to have to keep rebooting.
[19:29] <TJ-> parityDrive: If you're at the "grub>" command-line you need to *manually* replicate what grub.cfg usually does.
[19:29] <EriC^^> parityDrive: type ls -l
[19:29] <TJ-> parityDrive: firstly, as you have the command-line the 'normal' module must have started, and it looks for grub.cfg, which infers that file hasn't been created
[19:30] <TJ-> parityDrive: therefore, please tell us what "set root" reports
[19:30] <EriC^^> and copy what it says next to any ext4 partitions, like (hd0,gpt2) etc
[19:30] <parityDrive> alright hold on
[19:30] <parityDrive> good thing I have znc :P
[19:30] <EriC^^> parityDrive:
[19:31] <TJ-> EriC^^: we'll get that from 'root' since the command-line is active, and that infers ($root)/grub/<ARCH>/normal.mod has loaded
[19:31] <EriC^^> you mean you have to reboot every time you want to run a command?
[19:31] <EriC^^> hold on, do you have a live usb?
[19:31] <parityDrive> My laptop is a p.o.s
[19:31] <parityDrive> Yes i have it on a usb.
[19:31] <EriC^^> chrooting would be way easier
[19:31] <EriC^^> ok, load the live usb and come here
[19:31] <parityDrive> alright.
[19:31] <TJ-> EriC^^: I diagree; 4 commands and we can boot the actual OS that is missing
[19:31] <parityDrive> 1 sec, thank you for the help btw.
[19:34] <EriC^^> TJ-: he has to reboot every time, like tell you what set root gives, then reboot to get grub again etc.
[19:34] <Zephyr1138> I was upgrading to 15.10 and the desktop went black with just a mouse cursor showing. Alt-F1 brings up a terminal I can log into. lsb_release -a shows "Release: 15.10" and "Codename: wily" ps aux | grep dpkg shows an active process. How do I tell when the upgrade is complete?
[19:34] <daftykins> Zephyr1138: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will return all 0's
[19:34] <daftykins> Zephyr1138: sounds like you've got a graphics driver issue really
[19:35] <paritydrive1> ok
[19:35] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:35] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[19:35] <paritydrive1> I'm retarded.
[19:35] <paritydrive1> this isn't live.
[19:36] <paritydrive1> its the installer iso i used :|
[19:36] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[19:36] <EriC^^> not following
[19:36] <TJ-> paritydrive1: Yes, the installer is ON the 'live' ISO image
[19:36] <paritydrive1> Downloaded, burned to usb keep.
[19:36] <paritydrive1> key*
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> paritydrive1  or do you mean the server installer?
[19:36] <EriC^^> ok, that's what we need
[19:36] <paritydrive1> No nvm, I'm being stupid.
[19:36] <paritydrive1> and over thinking.
[19:36] <ricky-> i sat here and found the problem with your help. thanks ubuntu!
[19:37] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/mbr8
[19:37] <Zephyr1138> daftykins, those apt-get responses show "E: Could not get lock ..." type errors. It must still be churning.
[19:37] <pentester> roshan
[19:38] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: oh, not good :/
[19:38] <paritydrive1> ?
[19:38] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: you have windows installed in uefi mode on one disk, and ubuntu installed in legacy on the other
[19:38] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: oh nevermind
[19:39] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: what os's disks do you have?
[19:39] <paritydrive1> What do you mean?
[19:39] <daftykins> Zephyr1138: not if you rebooted
[19:39] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: it looks like you have 1 disk that has windows on it, and another that has windows maybe + linux
[19:39] <Zephyr1138> daftykins, I just successfully installed a binary nVidia driver via "sudo apt-get install nvidia-304" prior to the 15.10 upgrade.
[19:39] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: and a third that has windows on it
[19:40] <Zephyr1138> daftykins, I haven't rebooted yet.
[19:40] <paritydrive1> sorry browser died.
[19:40] <ioria> parityDrive, basically you have 3 /boot
[19:40] <paritydrive1> i have Windows installed on sda.
[19:40] <EriC^^> np
[19:41] <EriC^^> ok, what about sdb and sdc
[19:41] <paritydrive1> ignore sdc  boot is useless.
[19:41] <paritydrive1> and I haven't cleaned up my drives atm.
[19:41] <EriC^^> ok, and sdb?
[19:41] <paritydrive1> sdb is linux /
[19:41] <paritydrive1> No idea why its boot...
[19:41] <EriC^^> it has a ntfs at the start
[19:41] <EriC^^> 141gb
[19:41] <paritydrive1> oh wait.
[19:42] <paritydrive1> sdb boot = the efi partition i made
[19:42] <Mattias> Another problem when trying to install steam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896636/  I've tried to install everything it wants to have, but the final piece doesn't want to install at all
[19:42] <paritydrive1> Ya EriC^^ that sdc boot is windows 8.1 which is removed.
[19:43] <EriC^^> TJ-: what do you think, should he reinstall using a gpt partition table?
[19:43] <paritydrive1> Oh and sdb1 = a partition in Windows (storage drive)
[19:44] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: i see, well right now ubuntu is installed in legacy mode
[19:44] <paritydrive1> How can you tell?
[19:45] <ioria> parityDrive, Partition Table: msdos
[19:45] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: cause it has a msdos partition table not gpt
[19:45] <paritydrive1> So I'm assuming that's why i'm just getting grub > instead of a boot menu
[19:45] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: maybe, yeah
[19:45] <Zephyr1138> daftykins, I'm just going to sit tight and check up on it again in an hour or two.
[19:46] <ioria> parityDrive, can you boot  ubuntu from bios ?
[19:46] <paritydrive1> or is it because my actually boot is EFI (thanks to windows).
[19:46] <paritydrive1> nope
[19:46] <paritydrive1> I get grub >
[19:46] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /mnt
[19:46] <EriC^^> then cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:46] <jatt> synaptic looks like crap in 15.10
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> !language | jatt
[19:47] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/psrv
[19:47] <ioria> jatt, what's wrong ?
[19:47] <Bashing-om> Mattias: Mind you I do not know ; but, " (= 11.0.2+git20151008+11.0.b1230e3e-0ubuntu0ricotz~vivid ; this may be caused by held packages. " Vivid is EOL, are you fully updated and upgraded ?
[19:48] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: well, it's actually installed in uefi mode
[19:48] <paritydrive1> I'm getting grub is non-existent and that's what's causing it?
[19:48] <vivid> vivid is EOL? wow thats such good news for me
[19:49] <Mattias> Bashing-om: isn't it 15.04?
[19:49] <k1l_> vivid: no its not eol yet
[19:49] <vivid> im pretty sure he's wrong though, eol is set for 1/2016
[19:49] <vivid> and im very much looking forward to that :D
[19:49] <Bashing-om> Mattias: Excuse me .. you are correct .. EOL in January .
[19:49] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try sudo apt-get install efibootmgr && sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:49] <Kallb123> Hi guys, I installed and used LVM for my partitions, which only made a small /boot partition. Every few months it gets full and causes updates to fail. How can I make it automatically clean kernels out?
[19:49] <LordDiabolus> Ubuntu.com says Unity8 Preview is in 15.10.  How can you start it?  (Can't find docs anywhere on it)
[19:50] <Seven_Six_Two> how long to torrents stay busy for? I added a few to my vps to help out, but I'm not sure how long the spike usually lasts
[19:50] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/eg6s
[19:50] <paritydrive1> oopes
[19:50] <k1l_> Mattias: sounds like you use PPAs and they now make trouble
[19:51] <OerHeks> Seven_Six_Two, take it over this weekend, or 2 weeks is nice too
[19:51] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/fjj3
[19:51] <paritydrive1> there you go EriC^^
[19:52] <Seven_Six_Two> OerHeks, I have finite transfer allotment, and it's going fast, but I'll leave it for as long as I can.
[19:52] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: i think i see the problem
[19:52] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: it's using the efi partition on the first disk that's shared with windows
[19:52] <paritydrive1> I'm a noob?
[19:52] <OerHeks> Seven_Six_Two, set your ratio to share :-)
[19:52] <Bashing-om> Mattias: If you run ' apt-cache policy <package> ' on the 5 dependencies, is a common PPA relected as the culprit ?
[19:52] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: lol no
[19:52] <Mattias> k1l_: Removed one PPA I had enabled (was only one), will also upgrade to 15.10 from 15.04.
[19:52] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm already at 2.0 ratio after about 5 minutes
[19:52] <paritydrive1> :P
[19:52] <broman> can someone please help me?? i cant start the x server! its a fresh 14 install.. my xorg log: http://pastie.org/10500562
[19:53] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:53] <paritydrive1> So grub is messed up then?
[19:53] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: we can try pointing it to use the efi you created and see if that works
[19:53] <k1l_> Mattias: use ppa-purge to remove PPAs to let the PPA packages get removed and made the original ubuntu state again
[19:53] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/8hqt
[19:53] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, type sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab
[19:54] <paritydrive1> k
[19:54] <EriC^^> and replace the UUID=6AE0-E10A  /boot/efi with UUID="2E53-6559" /boot/efi
[19:54] <Mattias> k1l_: thanks! I'll do that. this is quite an old install so.
[19:54] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: sorry, no quotes after UUID= it's not needed
[19:54] <ganzzahl>  
[19:54] <paritydrive1> I understood that part EriC^^
[19:54] <paritydrive1> :P
[19:55] <Mattias> k1l_: ppa-purge, no such command O.o
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> LordDiabolus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/688560/how-do-i-test-unity-8-in-15-10
[19:55] <k1l_> Mattias: might need to install it first
[19:55] <k1l_> !ppapurge
[19:55] <LordDiabolus> Thanks!
[19:55] <paritydrive1> ok done
[19:55] <paritydrive1> reboot?
[19:56] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: no
[19:56] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[19:56] <Mattias> k1l_: Great, I'll install it after these 1701 new packages :)
[19:56] <EriC^^> type the whole line
[19:57] <paritydrive1> done
[19:58] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/boot/efi
[19:58] <paritydrive1> rgr
[19:58] <paritydrive1> roger*
[19:58] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo chroot /mnt
[19:58] <EriC^^> then type ls /boot/efi , is it empty?
[19:59] <paritydrive1> bash: /boot/efi: Is a directory
[19:59] <paritydrive1> bash: /boot/efi: Is a directory
[19:59] <paritydrive1> i'm retarded wow.
[19:59] <EriC^^> you typed type by mistake
[19:59] <EriC^^> it happens a lot
[19:59] <paritydrive1> Recovery  System Volume Information
[20:00] <paritydrive1> That's what it shows
[20:00] <EriC^^> ok, try grub-install
[20:00] <EriC^^> if you want try mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[20:00] <EriC^^> if you haven't typed grub-install yet
[20:00] <paritydrive1> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[20:00] <paritydrive1> grub-install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition.
[20:00] <paritydrive1> .
[20:00] <paritydrive1> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[20:00] <paritydrive1> grub-install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition.
[20:00] <paritydrive1> .
[20:01] <ubuntu023> Hi
[20:01] <paritydrive1> :(
[20:01] <paritydrive1> Sorry about that.
[20:02] <ubuntu023> Can i ask my question?
[20:02] <daftykins> !paste | paritydrive1
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu023  yes
[20:02] <daftykins> ubottu: yes, ask away
[20:02] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: no problem
[20:02] <daftykins> gah tab complete
[20:02] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[20:02] <daftykins> ubottu: don't worry, i don't!
[20:02] <paritydrive1> i'm using Elementary OS
[20:02] <xyzzy42> Why is utopic not in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ ?
[20:02] <paritydrive1> so do i still use /ubuntu?
[20:03] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> xyzzy42  because utopic stopped breathing
[20:03] <paritydrive1> done
[20:03] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try grub-install again
[20:03] <OerHeks> heh, elementary has its own issues
[20:03] <daftykins> paritydrive1: ugh. that is not supported in this channel.
[20:03] <ubuntu023> Today when i login to my ubuntu,after 15s it backed to the login page i tried again and again but it loged ou immediately after loged in, i search the net and i found this link:
[20:03] <paritydrive1> same thing
[20:03] <daftykins> no it's not.
[20:03] <ubuntu023> http://askubuntu.com/questions/367260/i-am-logged-out-immediately-after-logging-in
[20:03] <daftykins> and shame on you for being duped into thinking it is.
[20:03] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: i wonder why it thinks it's not an efi partition
[20:03] <paritydrive1> no idea bud.
[20:03] <xyzzy42> MonkeyDust, channel message says 15.04 still supported.  That not the case?
[20:04] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:04] <daftykins> xyzzy42: it is until January
[20:04] <EriC^^> maybe it looks at the partition type?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> xyzzy42  15.04 yes, utopic not
[20:04] <daftykins> xyzzy42: utopic = 14.10
[20:04] <xyzzy42> ahh
[20:04] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/vx9c
[20:05] <ubuntu023> I use ctrl alt f6 and then typed my user name and password and without chaging the directory to home or others, i type this: sudo rm -v .Xauthority
[20:05] <ubuntu023> And now still the same problem
[20:05] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: i dont know if you can set it with fdisk ( it's made for msdos not gpt partition tables )
[20:05] <EriC^^> hold on
[20:05] <ubuntu023> Just i can log in to my ubuntu using the guest user
[20:05] <xyzzy42> is there a way to get do-release-upgrade to find 15.04 or 15.10?
[20:05] <ubuntu023> And do not by my main user,emadhelmi
[20:05] <Spec> EriC^^: cool, termbin is neat
[20:06] <ubuntu023> What should i do?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> xyzzy42  what is the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[20:06] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: yeah you can, type sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[20:06] <EriC^^> Spec: yup
[20:06] <TJ-> xyzzy42: "man do-release-upgrade" for clues
[20:06] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: then go down to the efi partition, press type, then type ef
[20:06] <EriC^^> TJ-: does msdos partition tables + uefi work?
[20:07] <TJ-> EriC^^: Yes; it's mandated in the UEFI standard
[20:07] <xyzzy42> MonkeyDust, "Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l".
[20:07] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok, cool
[20:07] <paritydrive1> the vFat partition correct?
[20:07] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:07] <EriC^^> not the first one
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> xyzzy42  fresh install is the fastest and easiest way
[20:08] <paritydrive1> sdb5
[20:08] <paritydrive1> is the one i changed
[20:08] <croberts> is wine out for 15.10 yet?
[20:08] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[20:08] <paritydrive1> quit the window?
[20:08] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: press write, then type partprobe
[20:08] <paritydrive1> no save or anything?
[20:08] <EriC^^> write
[20:08] <croberts> also is chrome slow for anyone on 15.04 gnome
[20:09] <paritydrive1> partprobe done.
[20:09] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, try grub-install
[20:09] <paritydrive1> nothing shows (assuming it doesn't)
[20:09] <paritydrive1> HAHA
[20:09] <paritydrive1> same thing.
[20:09] <paritydrive1> I'm going to cry.
[20:09] <EriC^^> lol
[20:09] <xyzzy42> could I change my sources.list to point to 15.04 and then apt-get update?
[20:10] <daftykins> xyzzy42: no that's not supported.
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> paritydrive1  i havent followed, what was your initial question?
[20:10] <daftykins> !eol | xyzzy42 follow the last link here
[20:10] <paritydrive1> I have windows 10 installed (EFI).
[20:10] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub --recheck
[20:10] <paritydrive1> Trying to get boot menu working
[20:11] <paritydrive1> same thing EriC^^
[20:11] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try ls /boot/efi first, see if you get an EFI dir
[20:11] <paritydrive1> shows: EFI Recovery System Volume Information
[20:13] <EriC^^> hmm, it created it by itself here so that's not the problem
[20:13] <Kallb123> Hi guys, I installed and used LVM for my partitions, which only made a small /boot partition. Every few months it gets full and causes updates to fail. How can I make it automatically clean kernels out?
[20:13] <EriC^^> maybe grub doesn't like that it's a msdos partition table
[20:13] <paritydrive1> I honestly don't know.
[20:13] <gh16ito> Is this the right place to ask about Ubuntu dev / themes?
[20:13] <TJ-> EriC^^: "if (!efidir_is_mac && grub_strcmp (fs->name, "fat") != 0) grub_util_error (_("%s doesn't look like an EFI partition"), efidir); "
[20:13] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: do you have important data on your sdb1 ?
[20:14] <gh16ito> I'm trying to fix a broken Cinnamon applet, and I'm not quite sure what's going wrong.
[20:14] <TJ-> EriC^^: EFI-SP is expected to be FAT, not NTFS
[20:14] <EriC^^> TJ-: it is fat32
[20:14] <TJ-> EriC^^: I thought it was NTFS?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> gh16ito  are you a developer? there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:14] <EriC^^> nope that's the first partition that has data
[20:14] <EriC^^> 5      157GB   157GB  134MB   logical   fat32
[20:14] <gh16ito> MonkeyDust: Probably the answer to that is yes, but I've never worked with this sort of thing before.
[20:15] <paritydrive1> I do have stuff on it.
[20:15] <paritydrive1> All work stuff pretty much.
[20:15] <gh16ito> Basically I'm looking to get this working on ubuntu with cinnamon: https://github.com/robin92/cinnamon-power-applet/blob/master/power%40airlog.pisz.pl/applet.js#L39
[20:16] <EriC^^> TJ-: there's nothing else that triggers that error line?
[20:16] <raphus> ubuntu with cinnamon? why not just linux mint?
[20:16] <gh16ito> I gather that imports.dbus is deprecated in Mint, and that tracks with the errors I was seeing (http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2014/08/attention-applet-desklet-extension-developers/)
[20:16] <EriC^^> TJ-: maybe grub only knows how to get the fs type if it's msdos? :/
[20:17] <gh16ito> raphus: My understanding is that Ubuntu has better support for updates and whatnot.
[20:17] <gh16ito> Plus bigger community.
[20:17] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: if you can back it up, you can convert your partition table type to gpt
[20:17] <EriC^^> it's pretty instantaneous
[20:17] <paritydrive1> Ya I think I'm going have to.
[20:17] <paritydrive1> This is driving me nuts.
[20:17] <TJ-> EriC^^: Maybe I missed something but earlier you gave the instruction "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/boot/efi" but the termbin I'm looking at is /dev/sdb
[20:18] <raphus> @gh16ito 99% of the workarounds or tutorials for ubuntu work just fine for mint :P
[20:18] <EriC^^> i did?
[20:18] <EriC^^> oops
[20:18] <gh16ito> Yeah, that's been my experience using Mint in a virtualbox, but for the most part Cinnamon on Ubuntu works fine, and I can always fall back to Unity if need be.
[20:18] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo umount /dev/sda5
[20:18] <k1l_> raphus: and you know exactly why the users are in here. so if you need any support. dont use mint.
[20:18] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: then mount /dev/sdb5 /boot/efi
[20:19] <TJ-> EriC^^: There's no problem with the disk label (GPT or MSDOS), the source-code from GRUB I quoted you shows that the errir paritydrive1 sees only happens when there is NOT a Mac file-system, AND the targer file-system is NOT FAT.
[20:19] <paritydrive1> umount: /dev/sda5: not mounted
[20:19] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: hmm type exit
[20:19] <gh16ito> OK, I'm going to try the app-devel chat.
[20:19] <lwells> Hi all
[20:19] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: then try sudo umount /mnt/boot/efi
[20:20] <xyzzy42> daftykins, thanks.  after updating the sources.list, and then editing release-upgrades to normal from never, it looks like it will work
[20:20] <TJ-> EriC^^: According to grub-install, it's something else
[20:21] <TJ-> EriC^^: sorry, ignore that, I was stuck back in the scrollback buffer!
[20:21] <paritydrive1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896927/ EriC^^
[20:21] <Mattias> !ppapurger
[20:21] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: did you unmount first?
[20:22] <paritydrive1> yup
[20:22] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo umount /mnt/boot/efi
[20:22] <EriC^^> you did?
[20:22] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/boot/efi
[20:22] <paritydrive1> that worked.
[20:22] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[20:22] <Mattias> k1l_: What was the info again? Lost log after upgrade. On 15.10 now, can't get a list of ppa's and sudo ppa-purger xorg-edgers/ppa doesn't work, it can't find it -.-
[20:22] <EriC^^> then grub-install paritydrive1
[20:23] <k1l_> !ppapurge
[20:23] <paritydrive1> wait...
[20:23] <paritydrive1> waiting*
[20:23] <Mattias> k1l_: is there a way to list all ppa's?
[20:23] <paritydrive1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896934/
[20:23] <paritydrive1> EriC^^:
[20:23] <TJ-> EriC^^: I think paritydrive1 is outside the chroot right now?
[20:23] <Christos230> H
[20:23] <k1l_> Mattias: ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:24] <Gachrr> Hi everyone.
[20:24] <disky42> Hi, my dvb-sremote control is working without lirc; mute and poweroff key are captured by ubuntu. How to AVOID(!) that? The other keys are forwarded to application kodi as expected
[20:24] <EriC^^> TJ-: no, what's that error about you think? it doesn't like that it's non-gpt?
[20:24] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try update-grub
[20:25] <paritydrive1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896942/
[20:25] <Gachrr> I have massive issues after upgrading to 15.10, even a fresh install with the same /home didn't help. The issue is that when I log on my account, Unity doesn't appear. I figured that it's something in .config folder, however deleting and replacing it didn't give me constant results.
[20:25] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: also, try efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:25] <EriC^^> and ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:25] <Mattias> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12896948/  ppa-purge just can't remove them -.-
[20:25] <fatogo> hello all
[20:26] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ez0g  & http://termbin.com/m1is
[20:26] <k1l_> Mattias: you copy&pasted the wrong command. its ppa-purge not purger
[20:26] <TJ-> EriC^^: EFI-SP must be a primary partition
[20:26] <Mattias> k1l_: the paste runs ppa-purge
[20:26] <Mattias> easier with auto complete in terminal
[20:26] <EriC^^> oh, it put the files, in it, but didn't create the efibootmgr entry
[20:27] <OerHeks> Mattias, it is ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[20:27] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try typing exit, then sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999 just to be sure
[20:27] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/2m2o
[20:27] <k1l_> sudo ppa-purge  xorg-edgers/ppa
[20:27] <Mattias> OerHeks: I get the exact same error running that
[20:27] <Mattias> k1l_: and that
[20:28] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: you could delete the swap partition and create an efi primary one
[20:28] <Mattias> sudo ppa-purge gives me an example as well which also gives the exact same error:  sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers  (which is the one I used)
[20:28] <paritydrive1> Will I need to reboot?
[20:28] <paritydrive1> do I also need to re-create the swap?
[20:28] <Mattias> k1l_: the command seems to be smart enough to know it's always xorg-edgers ppa which is what it can't seem to find...
[20:28] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: no, and yeah
[20:29] <paritydrive1> gpart?
[20:29] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[20:29] <k1l_> Mattias: before the upgrade they get disabled
[20:29] <Mattias> k1l_: well, I've also disabled them all manually in update-manager
[20:29] <paritydrive1> sdb2 (delete)
[20:29] <Mattias> k1l_: what is ppa-purge supposed to do?
[20:29] <paritydrive1> ?
[20:29] <k1l_> Mattias: so enable them again to let ppa-purge get the package list
[20:29] <Mattias> ah ok, will do
[20:30] <paritydrive1> sdb2 = swap EriC^^
[20:30] <Jordan_U> paritydrive1: Make sure that you swapoff first, and make sure that you aren't accidentally deleting the wrong partition.
[20:30] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: yeah, and create a small primary efi partition
[20:30] <k1l_> Mattias: have to leave now, but others might help here if that still doesnt work
[20:30] <EriC^^> size is like 100M when it asks for it ( or whatever you want it to be )
[20:30] <paritydrive1> Beginning?
[20:31] <Mattias> k1l_: Thanks for the help so far :)
[20:31] <EriC^^> yeah when it asks where just press enter
[20:31] <paritydrive1> change type to EFI correct?
[20:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:31] <EriC^^> then create a swap partition with the free space
[20:31] <EriC^^> type 82
[20:31] <paritydrive1> swap should be primary?
[20:32] <EriC^^> no
[20:32] <paritydrive1> just double checking.
[20:32] <paritydrive1> logical
[20:32] <nmgkali> Just wondering, how can I use the command line get the headers of a hosts services at different ports (like what shodan uses to get the headers at the ports of the hosts (even on really obscure ones))?
[20:32] <Jordan_U> paritydrive1: You can use either primary or logical partitions for swap.
[20:32] <paritydrive1> writing.
[20:32] <paritydrive1> 1 sec
[20:32] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, then sudo partprobe
[20:33] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: then type sudo umount /mnt/boot/efi
[20:33] <paritydrive1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897003/
[20:34] <Quatroking> hi
[20:34] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:34] <Guest68423> Are there some files I need to change in my /home directory, in order to reset my sound settings in Linux?
[20:34] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/j3q1
[20:34] <Quatroking> is it possible to make my machine speak words through the terminal, using some text to speech stuff?
[20:34] <Guest68423> Quatroking, yes.
[20:35] <paritydrive1> Looks like its ok EriC^^
[20:35] <Quatroking> how'd I go about doing that?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> Quatroking: echo "hello, world" | espeak
[20:36] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: i think you have to reboot
[20:36] <paritydrive1> ok i will brb then.
[20:36] <Guest68423> I am looking at apt-cache search speech.  I am trying to find the command that I used to use.
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> !info espeak | Quatroking
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> Quatroking  there's also 'saytime'
[20:38] <Guest68423> Quatroking, I think it might have been espeak.
[20:38] <paritydrive1> ok back
[20:38] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: wb
[20:38] <paritydrive1> should have made a persistant partition on this USB...
[20:38] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:38] <RubyDZ> hey guys, can someone guide me on how to use the unrar command? it's a bit confusing for me ....
[20:38] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/zqvo
[20:38] <Quatroking> Guest68423, sorry about that, my internet is crap today
[20:39] <Quatroking> how'd I go about doing that?
[20:39] <Guest68423> Quatoroking, festival might have worked too.
[20:39] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: that's odd, the efi isn't there
[20:39] <Guest68423> Quatroking, I had to follow an online guide.
[20:39] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[20:40] <paritydrive1> isn't his it? /dev/sda2: UUID="6AE0-E10A" TYPE="vfat"
[20:40] <paritydrive1> that's odd.
[20:41] <paritydrive1> cfdisk has sdb2 as swap
[20:41] <paritydrive1> sdb5 Linux swap and sdb6 as vfat
[20:41] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: no it should be on sdb
[20:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:41] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: odd, try to delete the swap and create the efi one for now
[20:41] <paritydrive1> err ya swap is still above it...
[20:41] <gordonjcp> evening
[20:42] <Quatroking> Guest68423, thanks, this festival thing works pretty good
[20:42] <Mattias> There we go, xorg-edgers removed and now steam installs :)
[20:42] <Mattias> no idea why I had xorg-edgers ppa there -.-
[20:42] <padong> hallo
[20:42] <EriC^^> hello
[20:43] <paritydrive1> ok EriC^^, created EFI, wrote, typed sudo partprobe
[20:43] <paritydrive1> No errors
[20:43] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, try sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:43] <Guest68423> Quatroking, There was a command that could pass anything in the clipboard to its output.  This worked pretty well with festival or espeak.  I cannot remember what it was right now.
[20:43] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/j9lf EriC^^
[20:44] <paritydrive1> still showing as swap :|
[20:44] <TaZeR> 16.04 image out yet?
[20:44] <gordonjcp> is there any way to use 15.10 on PCs with Intel graphics?
[20:44] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:45] <paritydrive1> cfdisk is showing sdb2 as swap
[20:45] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try doing it in gparted maybe
[20:45] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/bqdk
[20:46] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: now the old efi is gone
[20:46] <paritydrive1> ok i'm in gparted
[20:46] <gordonjcp> http://gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/videocorruption.png
[20:46] <gordonjcp> http://gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/morecorruption.png
[20:46] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, try deleting the swap and creating a small primary fat32
[20:46] <gordonjcp> ^ any way to fix that, apart from buying an NVidia card?
[20:46] <Pici> 50
[20:47] <paritydrive1> label?
[20:47] <paritydrive1> or not necessary?
[20:47] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: EFI partition
[20:47] <EriC^^> if you want, it's helpful
[20:49] <paritydrive1> ok created.
[20:49] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/t5zy
[20:50] <gordonjcp> is there perhaps a better channel to get some help with this video problem?
[20:51] <paritydrive1> EriC^^?
[20:52] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, looks good
[20:52] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[20:53] <paritydrive1> done
[20:53] <EriC^^> is that the root filesystem now? try ls /mnt
[20:53] <paritydrive1> what do you mean?
[20:53] <Guest68423> Quatroking, I think I found the name of the command I was looking for.  It is xclip.
[20:53] <EriC^^> is there /boot /etc /root ... in it?
[20:53] <Quatroking> Guest68423, say "word" also works lol
[20:54] <Quatroking> as long as I have gnustep-gui-runtime installed
[20:54] <paritydrive1> typing ls shows me: Documents Downloads Music etc.
[20:54] <EriC^^> oh, that's your home dir
[20:54] <EriC^^> type sudo umount /mnt
[20:55] <paritydrive1> sdb6?
[20:55] <EriC^^> try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:55] <EriC^^> i dunno, the root fs was before the home dir though
[20:55] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/9w60
[20:55] <Guest68423> Quatroking, I think the command was something like xclip | festival or xclip | espeak, with some options in the command.
[20:56] <paritydrive1> pretty sure I made / 18gbs...
[20:56] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:56] <EriC^^> it says sdb5, i think you have to reboot
[20:57] <paritydrive1> alright
[20:57] <paritydrive1> brb
[20:57] <jog1> daftykins, reinstalled a fresh lubuntu -- chrome browser seems to be working smoothly. just fyi. thanks for help yesterday.
[20:58] <gordonjcp> does anyone know if it's possible to use Intel graphics without it being all distorted yet?
[20:59] <paritydrive1> and back :P
[20:59] <EriC^^> wb
[20:59] <gordonjcp> or any suggestions for better places to ask about getting usable graphics?
[20:59] <paritydrive1> ya so sdb5 is not root. :|
[20:59] <EriC^^> it still isnt?
[20:59] <paritydrive1> thank you Elementary installer.
[21:00] <paritydrive1> nope
[21:00] <EriC^^> odd
[21:00] <paritydrive1> I don't care, I don't have anything on there.
[21:00] <EriC^^> try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:00] <paritydrive1> So if I have to re-install it I will.
[21:00] <Rexter> gordonjcp: The FOSS drivers for Intel are already present in the kernel. What kind of an issue are you having?
[21:00] <EriC^^> or sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Rexter: unusably distorted graphics
[21:00] <EriC^^> would be better
[21:00] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/7gvt or http://termbin.com/gvbx
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Rexter: http://gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/videocorruption.png
[21:01] <gordonjcp> Rexter: http://gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/morecorruption.png
[21:01] <Rexter> gordonjcp: give me some background. What are you doing?
[21:01] <gordonjcp> Rexter: booted any version of Linux
[21:01] <gordonjcp> in this case, the 15.10 installer
[21:01] <gordonjcp> but 15.04 is identical
[21:01] <paritydrive1> ok even if I mount sdb6 its not root :|
[21:01] <Rexter> gordonjcp: this is an HP isn't it?
[21:01] <paritydrive1> gg Elementary, gg
[21:01] <gordonjcp> Rexter: ... yes...?
[21:02] <gordonjcp> Rexter: this sounds like you know something :-)
[21:02] <Pwnna> Ben42: sorry i missed messages earlier if there was any.. but are there any other ways to debug? This is happening once every couple of hours and is corrupting some files ..
[21:02] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: should I just reinstall?
[21:02] <Rexter> gordonjcp: I've seen that quite a few times, no resolution.
[21:02] <Pwnna> as it is writing some stuff
[21:02] <gordonjcp> Rexter: but it works perfectly in Haiku
[21:02] <Pwnna> i also got some i915 slowpaths in the kernel, not sure if it is related, tho
[21:02] <pbx> is it possible to easily control what notification manager is active? i installed i3, and its notification manager took over.  i installed xfce, and it did the same.
[21:03] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: no
[21:03] <gordonjcp> Rexter: problem appears to be the same on every other ICH10 system I've tried
[21:03] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: sdb5 is there, and the uuid is the one for the root fs
[21:03] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: it's odd, try sudo mount -U a0e7492e-937b-428a-8b44-059b863b9484 /mnt
[21:04] <Rexter> gordonjcp: I found that 12.04 doesn't have this issue, but 14.04 and on do, not sure about 12.10, 13.04, and 13.10.
[21:04] <paritydrive1> same
[21:04] <paritydrive1> not root, its /home
[21:04] <gordonjcp> Rexter: 12.04 had it on older machines, with intel chipsets
[21:04] <gordonjcp> Rexter: I suspect Intel graphics just aren't supported in Linux, I've never seen them work
[21:04] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: are you sure? type ls /mnt
[21:04] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: it's pretty puzzling..
[21:04] <paritydrive1> elementary@elementary:~$ /mnt
[21:04] <paritydrive1> bash: /mnt: Is a directory
[21:04] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ls /mnt
[21:04] <Rexter> gordonjcp: I've installed Ubuntu on lots of systems with Intel graphics. It's only those old HPs, and Compaq's
[21:05] <paritydrive1> yes, yes it is puzzling.
[21:05] <EriC^^> lol
[21:05] <gordonjcp> Rexter: like I said, Dell is the same, Acer appears to be the same
[21:05] <paritydrive1> I don't know what to do...
[21:05] <gordonjcp> Rexter: about the only one that doesn't do it that uses an Intel chipset is my macbook
[21:05] <Pwnna> anyone else knows what to do when you're encountering hard freezes on wily that has no log and doesn't respond to even the magic sysrq sequences?
[21:06] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:06] <Rexter> gordonjcp: are you having the same issue on the Dell, and Acer?
[21:06] <paritydrive1> EriC^^:http://termbin.com/yft6
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Rexter: exactly the same
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Rexter: not distro-specific in any way, either
[21:06] <Pwnna> the hard freeze is that the computer stops responding to all inputs (keyboard, usb, network) but the on screen clock is somehow still ticking.
[21:06] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, try sudo mkdir /mnt2
[21:07] <Pwnna> this happens on average twice a day
[21:07] <EriC^^> then sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /mnt2
[21:07] <Rexter> gordonjcp: I havn'e see the issue on non hp/compaq machines.
[21:07] <paritydrive1> done
[21:07] <Rexter> gordonjcp: have you tried a manual installation of the Intel drivers?
[21:07] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: i have nothing saved on the install, so if I need to reinstall it I will.
[21:07] <gordonjcp> Rexter: no, are there specific ones I should look for?
[21:08] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, type ls /mnt2
[21:08] <gabriel_> how long time can take the "sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda" command?
[21:08] <paritydrive1> show lost+found myname
[21:08] <EriC^^> ok,
[21:08] <EriC^^> type ls /mnt
[21:08] <gordonjcp> gabriel_: depends how big your drive is; quite a long time potentially
[21:09] <Rexter> gordonjcp: I don't have much experience with it either:
[21:09] <Rexter> http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm
[21:09] <gabriel_> 500GB moreless gordonjcp
[21:09] <paritydrive1> ls /mnt shows bing dev etc etc.
[21:09] <paritydrive1> bin* not bing
[21:09] <EriC^^> ok, so it's right
[21:09] <EriC^^> it's the root fs..
[21:10] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab
[21:10] <EriC^^> replace the UUID= that's before /boot/efi with
[21:10] <EriC^^> BB32-A1B7
[21:10] <EriC^^> that's the new efi's uuid
[21:10] <paritydrive1> done
[21:11] <gabriel_> gordonjcp: more than 10 hours?
[21:11] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/boot/efi
[21:11] <gordonjcp> gabriel_: possibly
[21:11] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:11] <gabriel_> more than 1 day?
[21:11] <gabriel_> u_u¡
[21:11] <paritydrive1> done
[21:11] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: both commands?
[21:11] <gordonjcp> Rexter: I can't actually see that site, because it can't be displayed on this machine
[21:11] <paritydrive1> grub-install?
[21:11] <paritydrive1> yup
[21:12] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, cool, not yet
[21:12] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo chroot /mnt
[21:12] <gordonjcp> Rexter: oh well, off to the computer shop to buy a huge box of el-cheapo NVidia cards tomorrow I guess
[21:12] <EriC^^> then grub-install
[21:12] <Rexter> gordonjcp: how many are you doing?
[21:12] <gordonjcp> Rexter: 50 or so
[21:12] <daftykins> jog1: glad to hear it, no worries
[21:13] <paritydrive1> EriC^^:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897256/
[21:13] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897256/
[21:13] <nmgkali> how can I connect to a seagate drive on ubuntu
[21:14] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: looks good
[21:14] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try update-grub
[21:14] <bekks> nmgkali: Is is some kind of network drive?
[21:14] <paritydrive1> done
[21:14] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, try efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:15] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/akn3 EriC^^
[21:15] <Rexter> gordonjcp: wow, I have had some limited success with installing 12.04, and then doing a release upgrade. That has worked for me some times, but not always... You can pick up refurbished PCIe cards with shipping for less than $20, but when you times that by 50 or so, it equals a lot.
[21:15] <nmgkali> bekks: it is a "seagate personal cloud"
[21:15] <gordonjcp> Rexter: yeah
[21:15] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: looks good
[21:15] <EriC^^> type exit and see if it boots
[21:15] <gordonjcp> Rexter: is it just because intel is crap, or something?  How can they sell such a defective chipset?
[21:16] <paritydrive1> alright.
[21:16] <paritydrive1> I'll brb.
[21:16] <bekks> nmgkali: Just follow the manual of that thing then.
[21:17] <nmgkali> bekks: it has no documentation for linux, but is does have a samba service.
[21:17] <Rexter> gordonjcp: I don't think defective is the right term. They work fine on Windows. I think just unsupported.
[21:17] <daftykins> gordonjcp: nothing wrong with intel for the most part, perhaps it's just them and Linux aren't so great at times. what's this system?
[21:18] <daftykins> most people get by just fine with intel graphics.
[21:18] <bekks> nmgkali: But it has a documentation on how to set it up and how to access it.
[21:18] <gordonjcp> daftykins: HP 8000 SFF
[21:18] <Rexter> daftykins: gordonjcp: I agree, Intel is very cooperative with Linux, but that is a retaliative term.
[21:18] <gordonjcp> Rexter: oh :-/
[21:18] <nmgkali> bekks: yeah, but it's not very helpful. I got the samba working though, I'll try that.
[21:19] <daftykins> gordonjcp: latest BIOS/EFI on the thing?
[21:19] <asad_> Can someone tell me what I should do with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897305/
[21:19] <gordonjcp> daftykins: good point, I should check
[21:19] <daftykins> asad_: Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[21:19] <asad_> daftykins: What are these for though?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> Rexter: is Windows difficult to use?  Maybe it's worth trying that
[21:19] <Rexter> daftykins: asad_: sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:19] <daftykins> those are packages no longer needed.
[21:20] <asad_> daftykins: Yeah I know but what are they for?
[21:20] <daftykins> look them up.
[21:20] <Rexter> gordonjcp: aren't those machines licenses for XP?
[21:20] <gordonjcp> Rexter: what distro is it based on?
[21:20] <gordonjcp> Rexter: XP?
[21:20] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: nope.  Still gives me the grub prompt
[21:20] <paritydrive1> :'(
[21:20] <asad_> daftykins: I deleted the amazon app that comes with ubuntu... is this a result of that?
[21:20] <daftykins> don't know.
[21:21] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: do you get a grub menu first?
[21:21] <paritydrive1> nope
[21:21] <EriC^^> with ubuntu and windows?
[21:21] <EriC^^> that's odd
[21:21] <paritydrive1> straight to grub >
[21:21] <EriC^^> are you sure you're booted in uefi mode?
[21:22] <paritydrive1> i have sdb set as boot 1
[21:22] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, hold on
[21:22] <paritydrive1> wait I have Secure Boot off.
[21:22] <paritydrive1> err disabled.
[21:22] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: is csm legacy enabled though?
[21:22] <EriC^^> it needs to be off
[21:22] <paritydrive1> UEFI/Legacy enabled.
[21:22] <EriC^^> uefi/legacy?
[21:22] <paritydrive1> its both
[21:22] <paritydrive1> UEFI & Legacy.
[21:22] <EriC^^> can you enable only uefi?
[21:23] <paritydrive1> It was at 1st.
[21:23] <paritydrive1> didn't work.
[21:23] <EriC^^> try it
[21:23] <paritydrive1> no i meant
[21:23] <paritydrive1> the 1st time i tried like 30 seconds ago
[21:23] <paritydrive1> i switch it 5 seconds later.
[21:23] <gordonjcp> daftykins: good call; it's a pretty downlevel bios
[21:24] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, in grub type insmod linux
[21:24] <Rexter> gordonjcp: Windows is loosely based on Xerox Pilot distro ;)
[21:24] <gordonjcp> Rexter: Windows just has never really been on my radar
[21:24] <paritydrive1> what should that do?
[21:24] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: this is odd
[21:24] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[21:24] <EriC^^> then cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:25] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/tmgw
[21:25] <gordonjcp> Rexter: I'm dimly aware that a couple of the computers at work use it, but my involvement with them is "plug thing in, press WRITE TO DEVICE, unplug thing"
[21:26] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, these are the lines you need to boot from grub
[21:26] <EriC^^> ill pastebin them
[21:27] <Rexter> gordonjcp: In my opinion Ubuntu Mate is the best choice for those. You may want to try that, Mate doesn't require H/W acceleration. Otherwise you'll have to get those graphics cards.
[21:27] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897356/
[21:28] <paritydrive1> ok
[21:28] <paritydrive1> that does what?
[21:28] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: you can use tab completion for after linux /boot/<press tab>
[21:28] <gordonjcp> Rexter: I'll give that a go, is that the one based on the horrible old Gnome 2 desktop?
[21:28] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: and you might be able to use root=/dev/sdb5 instead of the uuid
[21:28] <paritydrive1> That I know EriC^^
[21:29] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: same thing for initrd you can use tab completion,
[21:29] <gordonjcp> Rexter: whether the GUI uses hardware acceleration seems not to make a difference, even LXDE shows the problem
[21:29] <paritydrive1> so this will boot me into the OS.
[21:29] <paritydrive1> correct?
[21:29] <Mythikos> So, I'm new here. Been using Linux Mint 17 up until today. I'm afraid to reboot now, because I was a bit confused during this install. Before, I had a dual-boot setup with Windows 7 and Linux Mint 17.2. I tried to override Linux Mint with Ubuntu, toward the end of install, received a fatal error. It said it could not install bootloader or something to that effect.
[21:29] <EriC^^> ok, try writing those lines in grub and see if it boots
[21:29] <paritydrive1> alright
[21:29] <paritydrive1> brb again.
[21:31] <EriC^^> Mythikos: try ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[21:31] <EriC^^> does it exist?
[21:31] <OnkelTem> Omg
[21:31] <OnkelTem> I feel the need to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04
[21:31] <OnkelTem> How can I do this and get system live?
[21:31] <apollo_> hello everyone )
[21:31] <Mythikos> How do I access Terminal in Ubuntu?
[21:31] <EriC^^> OnkelTem: sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:31] <EriC^^> Mythikos: ctrl+alt+t
[21:31] <OnkelTem> EriC^^: will I die?
[21:32] <EriC^^> OnkelTem: not likely
[21:32] <OnkelTem> EriC^^: never? ^_^
[21:32] <apollo_> ctrl+alt+t
[21:32] <EriC^^> who knows :P
[21:32] <Mythikos> Not working :/\
[21:32] <Rexter> gordonjcp: Yes, Mate is a fork of Gnome 2.
[21:32] <OnkelTem> Mythikos: KDE?
[21:32] <Mythikos> I don't think so
[21:32] <EriC^^> OnkelTem: you'll be glad if you upgrade, 14.04 is more simple and quicker and stuff
[21:32] <apollo_> maybe Xfce?
[21:32] <gordonjcp> Rexter: didn't like Gnome 2 when it was alive, like it even less now :-)
[21:33] <OnkelTem> (in KDE the shortcut is turned off by default)
[21:33] <Rexter> gordonjcp: sure, but I assume you won't be the one using all 50 or so of these machines.
[21:33] <EriC^^> Mythikos: go to the menu or dash and search for terminal
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  if you don't like it, you can easily install something different
[21:33] <gordonjcp> Rexter: it was the best of a bad bunch...
[21:33] <Mythikos> I found it in the applications
[21:33] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: which almost certainly brings us back to the graphics problem
[21:34] <Mythikos> cntrl+alt+t is not functioning
[21:34] <gordonjcp> Rexter: and I'm not convinced that if LXDE suffers from corruption, MATE won't either
[21:34] <Mythikos> ls -l /sys/firmware/efi is my command
[21:34] <daftykins> gordonjcp: what release do you have installed and which kernel in use?
[21:34] <EriC^^> Mythikos: yeah
[21:34] <Mythikos> No such file, etc
[21:34] <RobinHood2015> I just upgraded Ubuntu MATE 15.04 to 15.10, but now I can't connect to the Internet with my Wi-Fi connection.
[21:34] <EriC^^> Mythikos: are you using unity?
[21:34] <gordonjcp> daftykins: currently running 15.10, with whatever is on the live installer
[21:34] <EriC^^> Mythikos: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:34] <Rexter> gordonjcp: you're right. It's not a desktop environment issue. It's a kernel driver issue.
[21:34] <gordonjcp> I'm just about to reboot to the "real" install
[21:34] <daftykins> gordonjcp: ah ok, and tried that BIOS yet?
[21:35] <OnkelTem> EriC^^: I'm just tired to hear everday advices to upgrade :)
[21:35] <Mythikos> Okiedokie
[21:35] <EriC^^> OnkelTem: it's all good :)
[21:35] <apollo_> ctr+alt+f1
[21:35] <gordonjcp> daftykins: just copying it to a DOS bootable stick
[21:35] <gordonjcp> daftykins: kill or cure, I suppose
[21:35] <OneM_Industries> Hey, anyone have a guide on how to interpret the output of smartctl?
[21:35] <apollo_> ctrl+alt+f7 back graphic X
[21:36] <daftykins> i kinda suspect no change, it'll go on fine :) no death!
[21:36] <OneM_Industries> I am not sure, but I suspect that one of my machines is about to blow a couple of drives, so I am wanting to look at the smart statues.
[21:36] <OnkelTem> "You have to download a total of 2,293 M. This download will take about 7 minutes with your connection." -- well, I like to live in 21st cntr
[21:36] <bekks> OneM_Industries: So pastebin the output :)
[21:37] <dm_comp> hi, so I'm 15.04 and I need to run an application that needs X. graphwar.jar (http://graphwar.com/index.html)
[21:37] <OneM_Industries> I did, and I posted it here last night. Nobody responded.
[21:37] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdx | pastebinit ; where sdx is the given HDD.
[21:37] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: link us again.
[21:37] <bekks> dm_comp: And whats the issue?
[21:37] <OneM_Industries> http://pastebin.com/PjL1wge5
[21:37] <dm_comp> bekks: http://pastebin.com/GBK1Ws1f
[21:37] <OneM_Industries> http://pastebin.com/4aqweJFq
[21:38] <gordonjcp> daftykins: no luck, "This program cannot be run in DOS mode"
[21:38] <gordonjcp> but it's a .exe file
[21:38] <gordonjcp> so, <shrug>
[21:38] <Rexter> gordonjcp: what version of Ubuntu are you trying again?
[21:38] <daftykins> gordonjcp: yeah you're going to need to find a way to extract it, or throw on Windows temporarily.
[21:38] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: Back and i'm in.
[21:38] <EriC^^> parityDrive: wb
[21:38] <gordonjcp> Rexter: 15.10, but all recentish versions of all distros are affected
[21:38] <gordonjcp> daftykins: uhm
[21:38] <daftykins> gordonjcp: double check the HP downloads don't have any other options
[21:38] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: it booted ubuntu?
[21:38] <paritydrive1> it wasn't hd1,msdos5 btw.
[21:38] <paritydrive1> it was hd2.
[21:38] <bekks> dm_comp: Are you starting it in a graphical terminal?
[21:38] <EriC^^> interesting
[21:38] <paritydrive1> Ya i'm in.
[21:39] <RobinHood2015> My computer will connect correctly to the Wi-Fi network, but I can't get a connection to the Internet. What's wrong here?
[21:39] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: maybe that's why it can't find the config file usually
[21:39] <apollo_> ubuntu 15.10 is realised ?
[21:39] <gordonjcp> "throw windows on"?
[21:39] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try sudo update-grub
[21:39] <gordonjcp> daftykins: how easy is that to do?
[21:39] <paritydrive1> ya I think Elementary doesn't follow the standard number convention of 0,1,2,3, etc
[21:39] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: it's possible that one's not happy, but sadly seagate have the most useless of SMART data so most fields refer to 'error' when they're actually ok, do you get any issues in "dmesg | tail" ?
[21:39] <dm_comp> bekks: I asked in the java channel and I was told I need X. not sure what you mean by graphical terminal?
[21:39] <daftykins> gordonjcp: what specifically?
[21:40] <bekks> dm_comp: "are you starting that application in X?" :)
[21:40] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: its running a bit choppy (i5, 4670k, 16gb ram)
[21:40] <gordonjcp> daftykins: "throw windows on"?
[21:40] <paritydrive1> could it be because there's not swap drive?
[21:40] <daftykins> gordonjcp: = install
[21:40] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: your second disk has definitely failed
[21:40] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: Nothing specifically related to the HDDs.
[21:40] <gordonjcp> daftykins: that looks quite complicated
[21:40] <dm_comp> how would I do that? doesn't 15.04 use Mir by default?
[21:40] <OneM_Industries> sda or b?
[21:40] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: no, swap is just used when you use up a lot of ram
[21:41] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: maybe graphics driver issue?
[21:41] <dm_comp> Mir replaced X i thought?
[21:41] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: sdb presumably, your second link - the ST31000520AS SN 9VX09723
[21:41] <paritydrive1> luca@EoS:~$ sudo update-grub
[21:41] <paritydrive1> Generating grub configuration file ...
[21:41] <paritydrive1> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-26-generic
[21:41] <paritydrive1> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.19.0-26-generic
[21:41] <paritydrive1> Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda2@/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[21:41] <paritydrive1> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[21:41] <paritydrive1> done
[21:41] <daftykins> gordonjcp: installing windows and running that .exe seems complicated? nah not at all.
[21:41] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:42] <daftykins> gordonjcp: tell you what, link me to the BIOS download in a PM and i'll see if i can extract it at all
[21:42] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: curious to see if it changed the disk names
[21:42] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: did you remove the usb from the pc?
[21:42] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: Just wondering, what makes you say that?
[21:42] <gordonjcp> daftykins: I've never installed Windows before and I can't find a download that's not asking for money
[21:42] <EriC^^> btw you'll be unmuted in a sec
[21:42] <paritydrive1> sorry about that.
[21:42] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/fgwf
[21:42] <paritydrive1> ok brb eating dinner.
[21:43] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: 3 'Current Pending Sector' on line 82, that means some sectors are going bad and likely more will be on the way - then up above, you have 293 already reallocated. that disk has failed, any data on it is at risk right now
[21:43] <dm_comp> bekks: a link to a howto or/and tutorial would be appreciated on how to start application in X or graphical terminal
[21:43] <Rexter> gordonjcp: I've got an idea... Do you have one of the machines in question availabe?
[21:43] <OneM_Industries> Yeiks.
[21:43] <OneM_Industries> Ok, new drive is needed NOW.
[21:43] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: likely you've been experiencing freezes, stalls... or generally slower operation than usual
[21:43] <gordonjcp> Rexter: that's what I'm using at the moment
[21:43] <gordonjcp> Rexter: it's actually quite difficult :-)
[21:44] <jgjl> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 15.10 for trying out Open vSwitch with DPDK. However, I could not find the poll-mode drivers. Any hints?
[21:44] <Rexter> gordonjcp: Do you have another machine for this chat?
[21:44] <OneM_Industries> That is actually not the main system drive.
[21:44] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: yeah i'm sure it's just your /home, any accesses would have been getting tripped up though
[21:44] <bekks> dm_comp: Open a terminal like xterm, gnome-terminal, etc. - done. No Howto needed.
[21:44] <OneM_Industries> No, not even that.
[21:44] <Mythikos> I'm back. That ctrl+alt+f1 got me stuck in some black screen. I'll never do that again
[21:45] <gordonjcp> Rexter: yes, two ticks, I'll get my laptop
[21:45] <gordonjcp> Rexter: right
[21:45] <OneM_Industries> All it is meerly a secondary storage drive.
[21:46] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok, i'd stop using it if i were you - maybe even disconnect it until you get a new one to copy data to
[21:46] <Joeboy> I wrote ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso to a usb stick with usb-creator-gtk but I get "boot error" when I try to test it or boot it :-(
[21:46] <dm_comp> bekks: that's what i did. the output is from the gnome terminal in the pasetbin
[21:46] <dm_comp> bekks: I also chmod a+rx on the .jar file
[21:46] <EriC^^> Joeboy: try with dd
[21:46] <Mythikos> So, I tried to install Ubuntu over my Linux Mint 17, and now the bootloading sequence isn't working.
[21:46] <OneM_Industries> I will, thank you.
[21:46] <Mythikos> Fatal errors and death and mayhem. Help please?
[21:47] <dm_comp> bekks: java -jar graphwars.jar
[21:47] <EriC^^> Joeboy: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[21:47] <EriC^^> Mythikos: are you still in the install or you booted a live usb?
[21:47] <Mythikos> Live USB
[21:47] <Mythikos> Install won't load
[21:48] <Joeboy> EriC^^: I'll give that a whirl. I thought a straight dd didn't work with usb sticks though.
[21:48] <EriC^^> Mythikos: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:48] <EriC^^> Joeboy: no, it works with ubuntu iso's
[21:48] <Xfcej-811-1> hi , can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897464/
[21:48] <Mythikos> Done
[21:48] <EriC^^> Mythikos: paste the link here
[21:48] <Mythikos> http://termbin.com/txw0
[21:49] <EriC^^> Mythikos: type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[21:49] <wileee> Xfcej-811-1, Install or upgrade to willy?
[21:49] <Mythikos> Done
[21:49] <Xfcej-811-1> upgrade from 15.04
[21:49] <EriC^^> Mythikos: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:49] <Xfcej-811-1> wileee,  upgrade from 15.04
[21:50] <EriC^^> Mythikos: type the whole line
[21:50] <Mythikos> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done ...?
[21:50] <wileee> Xfcej-811-1, For all to fail it looks like a repo or general upgrade issue, bad time to upgrade day of release really, try changing repos.
[21:50] <Mythikos> You may have lost me there
[21:51] <EriC^^> Mythikos: yeah, type the whole line
[21:51] <Mythikos> Done
[21:51] <Mythikos> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:51] <wileee> Xfcej-811-1, Upgrade from has been done? exact context would help.
[21:51] <Mythikos> Is what I did
[21:51] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[21:51] <Mythikos> Done
[21:51] <Xfcej-811-1> wileee, yeah i thought so, everyone is downloading right now. ill try again tomorrow maybe the servers are less busy
[21:51] <EriC^^> type grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[21:52] <charlie_> Hello
[21:52] <Mythikos> uh oh
[21:52] <dm_comp> jar not running in Ubuntu 15.04 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12897501/
[21:52] <Mythikos> Oh. I got it
[21:52] <OneM_Industries> Ok, second question.
[21:52] <Mythikos> Installing...
[21:52] <OneM_Industries> My main box's boot hdd has 2 bad sectors.
[21:53] <Mythikos> Finished. No errors.
[21:53] <OneM_Industries> How many bad sectors are acceptable?
[21:53] <EriC^^> Mythikos: ok, type update-grub
[21:53] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: none ideally - is this one you didn't pastebin?
[21:53] <Mythikos> Done
[21:53] <EriC^^> Mythikos: ok, type exit
[21:54] <EriC^^> and try rebooting
[21:54] <Mythikos> EriC^^ Done
[21:54] <OneM_Industries> Yes.
[21:54] <Mythikos> Okiedokie
[21:54] <OneM_Industries> I will pastebin it now.
[21:54] <wileee> Xfcej-811-1, Cool, should go pretty fast at some point, did this a week ago, smooth sailing.
[21:54] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: good stuff
[21:54] <charlie__> hello
[21:55] <OneM_Industries> I worked tech support for a while, so I have some idea on how to help more effectively.
[21:55] <OneM_Industries> http://pastebin.com/ZCMwRpYA
[21:55] <charlie__> hello yaha koi bachi hai?
[21:55] <Rexter> gordonjcp: did I loose you?
[21:55] <Xfcej-811-1> wileee,  i wanted to do a clean install , i downloaded the iso pretty fast but i have haundreds of gigs of "stuff" and no place to backup so i decided to do a upgrade
[21:55] <herrkin> hello community
[21:55] <gordonjcp> Rexter: no, I switched to a laptop and the channel got really busy
[21:56] <aninter> Anybody an idea about where to find fingerprints for the keys used to sign the isos?
[21:56] <oldgrump> Can I burn an ISO to CD with "dd if=linux.iso of=/dev/cdrom"?
[21:56] <herrkin> me again with the same problem with the swap, for a while it worked just fine, now it wont mount it
[21:56] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: mmm, what i personally do is backup any data then i zero fill the entire disk to weed out any others, if the bad sectors climb horribly... i never trust the disk again and look up warranty options, if they stay at 2... they'll be remapped and the disk might well carry on being fine
[21:56] <gordonjcp> oldgrump: no, but that'll work for USB sticks
[21:56] <charlie__> L pa charoooo salyooo
[21:56] <herrkin> sometimes it does mount it on boot, others it wont.
[21:56] <OneM_Industries> Gulp.
[21:56] <OneM_Industries> Problem is that that is the disk with my OS etc on it.
[21:57] <bekks> OneM_Industries: So take a backup and replace it.
[21:57] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: if you have another disk of greater size, back it up using clonezilla to image files, then you can do as i say
[21:57] <oldgrump> gordonjcp: I don't have brasero or k3b here. how can i burn my disc?
[21:57] <herrkin> so I get swap 0 0  0 when I type free -m
[21:57] <wingnut2626> hey is it possible to change the font size in a byobu terminal?
[21:57] <OneM_Industries> Ok. I have another, exactly similar disk, so I will try that.
[21:57] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: cool - best done from a live session - clonezilla has bootable ISOs available
[21:57] <gordonjcp> oldgrump: are you talking about actual CDs?
[21:58] <OneM_Industries> Ok, I will try that.
[21:58] <gordonjcp> oldgrump: no idea, I'm only 40, I wasn't born when they became obsolete
[21:58] <OneM_Industries> Thank you so much for all the help. ;)
[21:58] <OneM_Industries> :) *
[21:58] <gordonjcp> oldgrump: dd works just fine onto a USB stick or SD card
[21:58] <oldgrump> I'm talking about a blank CD-R disc.
[21:58] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: no problemo
[21:58] <gordonjcp> oldgrump: Back To The Future day was yesterday
[21:59] <OneM_Industries> Now, to figure this out...
[21:59] <gordonjcp> oldgrump: on a more serious note, why not just install brasero or similar?
[21:59] <EriC^^> !behelpful | gordonjcp
[21:59] <oldgrump> Okay. Thanks for the non-helpful response.
[21:59] <aninter> Anybody an idea about where to find fingerprints for the keys used to sign the iso files?
[22:00] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: good news is your WD green there is in warranty, so you can send it back to WD for a free replacement - feel free to PM me if you have any questions about it, i've probably sent over 20+ back in my time
[22:00] <OneM_Industries> I will if it is bad.
[22:00] <hedenclod> Hello
[22:00] <EriC^^> oldgrump: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Command_Line_.28Terminal.29
[22:00] <OneM_Industries> First, I have to figure out how to use clonezilla.
[22:00] <daftykins> it's easy :D text menu driven
[22:01] <OneM_Industries> \o/
[22:01] <Rexter> gordonjcp: Okay, so the machine in question. What's it's status?
[22:01] <Rexter> tell me about it.
[22:01] <Lord_Myth> I've returned, Eric^^
[22:01] <hedenclod> I've recently upgraded to 15.10 and I've noticed that certain programs that rely repos that don't have 15.10 become unresponsive and slow, any suggestions?
[22:01] <Lord_Myth> The procedure went well
[22:01] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: pr....?
[22:01] <charlie__> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Golu
[22:01] <oldgrump> EriC^^: thanks, i'll go read that now
[22:01] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: oh, Myth...
[22:02] <EriC^^> oldgrump: no problem
[22:02] <charlie__> Goluuuuuuuuu
[22:02] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: ok, good to know
[22:02] <lozer> ok lulooooo
[22:02] <Lord_Myth> EriC^^ Does Ubuntu have Gparted or some equivalent?
[22:02] <Lord_Myth> I wish to view my partitions
[22:02] <bekks> Lord_Myth: Yes.
[22:02] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: yeah, it has gparted, you need to install it though
[22:02] <Lord_Myth> On it
[22:02] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install gparted
[22:03] <Xfcej-811-1> wileee, i just changed the sources from United States to Main Servers and everything is going smooth, i just thought they were the same :P , no clue what happened
[22:03] <charlie__> server dow kaisa krna Golu
[22:03] <charlie__> DOwn
[22:03] <gordonjcp> Rexter: boots 15.10, has horrible graphics corruption
[22:03] <wileee> Xfcej-811-1, Excellent, who knows, heh, enjoy.
[22:04] <Rexter> gordonjcp: what is the machine?
[22:04] <Xfcej-811-1> thnx for your time wileee :P
[22:04] <Lord_Myth> I did it, EriC^^. Then I typed 'gparted' (without the quotes) into the Terminal, and it told me it wasn't installed (?)
[22:04] <gordonjcp> Rexter: HP 8000 Elite Small Form Factor
[22:04] <wileee> Xfcej-811-1, no problem. ;)
[22:04] <Lord_Myth> I know it just installed
[22:05] <herrkin> EriC^^, I remember you were helping me last time. it worked but now its screwed again
[22:05] <EriC^^> herrkin: what was
[22:05] <Lord_Myth> "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[22:05] <herrkin> the swap can't mount EriC^^
[22:05] <Lord_Myth> My luck today...
[22:05] <EriC^^> herrkin: you had installed and we used standard swap instead of encrypted?
[22:06] <Epx998> How do I change the if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
[22:06] <Epx998> - in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[22:06] <herrkin> EriC^^, I didnt do anything to it I just kept on working with the machine, all of the suddend it stopped working
[22:06] <Rexter> gordonjcp: okay, follow my instructions, you may have done some of this already. I don't care, do it again.
[22:06] <Rexter> gordonjcp: Ready?
[22:06] <EriC^^> Epx998: you can set the recordfail in /etc/default/grub
[22:06] <gordonjcp> Rexter: go
[22:06] <wileee> Epx998, fstab is where
[22:06] <Rexter> gordonjcp: Log out
[22:06] <gordonjcp> yup
[22:06] <Lord_Myth> EriC^^ Install doesn't seem to have worked
[22:06] <herrkin> I havent touched the os EriC^^ , maybe an update did.
[22:07] <EriC^^> Epx998: GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=<number> or variable
[22:07] <Lord_Myth> Or, perhaps it did work, and I cannot get it to run
[22:07] <paritydrive1> EriC^^: back :)
[22:07] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: type dpkg -l gparted | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:07] <kad_> Hi, I'm looking for a way to create a bash file that starts 1 program, sleeps X seconds and start another program. My attempt is ./programA & sleep 5 & ./programB but it start's both programs at once :/
[22:07] <Epx998> EriC^^: let me give that a shot
[22:07] <Rexter> gordonjcp: <ctrl> <alt> <F2>, then log to tty2
[22:07] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: wb
[22:07] <wileee> Epx998, Miss read ignore my comment, my bad.
[22:07] <paritydrive1> did you get the termbin?
[22:07] <Lord_Myth> http://termbin.com/yddn
[22:08] <TJ-> kad_:  "&&" not "&"
[22:08] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: yeah
[22:08] <gordonjcp> Rexter: okay so far
[22:08] <kad_> TJ- what's the difference between && and &?
[22:08] <Rexter> gordonjcp: sudo apt-get update
[22:08] <TJ-> kad_: "&" is the background-process operator; "&&" is the if-result-true-do-this operator
[22:08] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try cat /boot/efi/EFI/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:08] <herrkin> EriC^^, gparted shows sda8 as unknown
[22:09] <paritydrive1> http://termbin.com/sj8j
[22:09] <gordonjcp> Rexter: working, this is going to take some time
[22:09] <Lord_Myth> herrkin I had that same issue a few moments ago
[22:09] <Epx998> EriC^^: made the change and ran grub-mkconfig - but it still says -1
[22:09] <herrkin> and fdisk -l says its not a valid partition
[22:09] <bekks> herrkin: gdisk -l
[22:09] <kad_> TJ- programA is a webservice that just runs infinite, seems it's waiting for it to finish before it starts programB now?
[22:09] <gordonjcp> Rexter: okay, done
[22:09] <Rexter> gordonjcp: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:09] <Rexter> Then press Y, let it do any, and all updates
[22:10] <TJ-> kad_: right. "./programA & sleep 5 && ./programB"
[22:10] <oldgrump> wodim isn't on my system. is there some other common command line tool?
[22:10] <herrkin> bekks, that throws an error
[22:10] <gordonjcp> Rexter: not much to upgrade, done
[22:10] <bekks> herrkin: So pastebin the error
[22:10] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: ok, maybe it can't load the config cause it says hd1 there not hd2
[22:10] <paritydrive1> ya maybe
[22:10] <herrkin> bekks, it says problem opening -l error 2, file does not exist
[22:11] <Rexter> gordonjcp: fine, sudo reboot
[22:11] <bekks> herrkin: Then which exact command are you invoking?
[22:11] <gordonjcp> Rexter: just waiting for it to reboot
[22:11] <kad_> TJ- awesome, it finally works. Thank you very much :)
[22:11] <EriC^^> herrkin: can you pastebin sudo parted -l?
[22:11] <herrkin> ok can you remind me what was the term bin command?
[22:11] <Joeboy> EriC^^: dd worked (or at least is booting)! Thanks.
[22:11] <Rexter> gordonjcp: when it comes back up, if it logs you in, logs out again
[22:11] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try editing that file maybe
[22:12] <EriC^^> Joeboy: great, no problem
[22:12] <Rexter> gordonjcp: then go back to tty2
[22:12] <paritydrive1> ya will do
[22:12] <EriC^^> paritydrive1: try sudo nano /boot/efi/EFI/grub/grub.cfg
[22:12] <EriC^^> and put hd2 instead of hd1
[22:12] <paritydrive1> ahead of you :P
[22:13] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: gparted seems installed
[22:13] <gordonjcp> Rexter: okay
[22:13] <Lord_Myth> How do I run it?
[22:13] <Rexter> gordonjcp: tell me when you're ready for the next step
[22:13] <oldgrump> okay I'm giving up
[22:13] <oldgrump> bye
[22:13] <Lord_Myth> Typing gparted in the terminal isn't working
[22:13] <gordonjcp> Rexter: it's logged in
[22:13] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: try going to the menu and looking for it under system
[22:13] <herrkin> EriC^^, whats the termbin command please
[22:14] <Rexter> gordonjcp: tty2?, no GUI?
[22:14] <EriC^^> herrkin: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:14] <gordonjcp> yes
[22:14] <Rexter> gordonjcp:
[22:14] <Rexter> sudo mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[22:14] <tlt> what is termbin?
[22:14] <Lord_Myth> Okay, so the Menu is the top left?
[22:14] <Lord_Myth> And System is where?
[22:14] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/wmux
[22:14] <gordonjcp> Rexter: ah, yeah, I was about to try that
[22:14] <herrkin> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/wmux
[22:14] <Rexter> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[22:15] <gordonjcp> Rexter: yes, I'm reading the same article
[22:15] <EriC^^> TJ-: can you help herrkin set up his standard encrypted swap?
[22:16] <Rexter> gordonjcp: make sure you do sna
[22:16] <Rexter> http://pastebin.com/qt6Y9wtz
[22:16] <EriC^^> herrkin: can you type cat /etc/crypttab /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[22:16] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/g2wo
[22:16] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: should be somewhere, under accessories maybe
[22:16] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: i can start gparted from the terminal here
[22:16] <Rexter> gordonjcp: then reboot again. I'll be eagerly awaiting to see if that worked.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Rexter: yeah
[22:16] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: try /usr/sbin/gparted
[22:17] <TJ-> herrkin: EriC^^: where is it supposed to be?
[22:17] <tlt> EriC^^, Lord_Myth maybe he needs to close and reopen his terminal, paths might not have caught up/on yet
[22:17] <Lord_Myth> EriC^^ No such etc
[22:17] <tlt> if it was open before installing gparted
[22:17] <gordonjcp> bat's doo, vim isn't installed
[22:17] <herrkin> TJ-, what do you mean?
[22:17] <Lord_Myth> /usr/sbin/gparted
[22:17] <TJ-> herrkin: EriC^^ encrypted swap in sda8 ?
[22:18] <herrkin> yes TJ-
[22:18] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah
[22:18] <Lord_Myth> ~$ gparted
[22:18] <Lord_Myth> The program 'gparted' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[22:18] <Lord_Myth> sudo apt-get install gparted
[22:18] <TJ-> herrkin: "cat /etc/crypttab | nc termbin 9999" please
[22:18] <EriC^^> TJ-: crypttab and fstab http://termbin.com/g2wo
[22:19] <EriC^^> herrkin: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:19] <Lord_Myth> I reset the terminal windows, tried 'gparted" and the one EriC^^ suggested
[22:19] <Lord_Myth> No dice
[22:19] <bekks> Lord_Myth: And why dont you just install it?
[22:19] <herrkin> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/h9ks
[22:19] <Lord_Myth> I did
[22:19] <Lord_Myth> That's the issue
[22:19] <bekks> Lord_Myth: Pastebin the output of the command "sudo apt-get install gparted" then.
[22:20] <tlt> you just quoted yourself saying gparted was not installed
[22:20] <EriC^^> TJ-: parted -l http://termbin.com/wmux
[22:20] <tlt> two minutes ago
[22:21] <Lord_Myth> http://dpaste.com/2D4TX9E
[22:21] <gordonjcp> Rexter: sna is worse, uxa cures it
[22:21] <Lord_Myth> Then
[22:21] <Lord_Myth> http://dpaste.com/02MHYFQ
[22:21] <EriC^^> it's odd, he showed dpkg -l a while ago and it was installed
[22:22] <Rexter> gordonjcp: nice!
[22:22] <Lord_Myth> My brain hurts
[22:22] <gordonjcp> Rexter: indeed
[22:22] <OneM_Industries> Is there a way from smartctl to tell how old a drive is?
[22:22] <gordonjcp> Rexter: that's a considerable saving on "free" computers
[22:22] <gordonjcp> Rexter: thanks
[22:22] <Rexter> gordonjcp: curious to see how it goes on the others.
[22:22] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: not really, just look up the model #
[22:22] <bekks> OneM_Industries: Sure, look at the poweron hours.
[22:22] <tlt> OneM_Industries, you can guess by the poweron yes
[22:22] <gordonjcp> Rexter: they're identical, less RAM
[22:23] <bekks> OneM_Industries: that will give you a good hint at least.
[22:23] <gordonjcp> Rexter: I'll just roll that into preseed.cfg when I install them
[22:23] <TJ-> herrkin: EriC^^ OK, there seems to be a bug in ecryptfs-setup-swap. The fault is it no longer adds the crypttab option "offset=1024", which means the metadata header of the partition is over-written so that next time the system boots it cannot find the UUID of the target partition.
[22:23] <Rexter> gordonjcp: but didn't you say some were Dells, and Acers?
[22:23] <OneM_Industries> Holy.
[22:23] <OneM_Industries> 33,047 poweron hours.
[22:23] <Epx998> How do I get /etc/default/grub to override /boot/grub/grub.cfg for an option like GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT?
[22:23] <gordonjcp> Rexter: oh those are just random crap floating around the workshop
[22:23] <Lord_Myth> http://dpaste.com/2EMA72P
[22:23] <gordonjcp> Rexter: it's the HPs I'm interested in
[22:23] <bekks> OneM_Industries: So it is at least 3.77y old.
[22:23] <tlt> TJ-, just tell him to mkswap the right /dev/sd*
[22:23] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh
[22:24] <OneM_Industries> Yeiks.
[22:24] <EriC^^> that's interesting
[22:24] <bekks> OneM_Industries: Aint that old.
[22:24] <EriC^^> tlt: he did, then it apparently overwrote everything in an update
[22:24] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, I know.
[22:24] <herrkin> TJ-, I think it was EriC^^ who told me to put the partition on the configuration instead of the uuid
[22:24] <tlt> uh
[22:24] <tlt> I see
[22:24] <NeverHere> Hi everyone, is there a MAAS channel or can questions about installing MAAS be asked here?
[22:24] <daftykins> Epx998: you edit then run "sudo update-grub"
[22:24] <daftykins> !alis | NeverHere
[22:24] <TJ-> herrkin: Yes, that should solve the issue. Did a reboot not mount the swap?
[22:24] <Rexter> gordonjcp: Thank YOU..... Now I know what to do the next time I run into this.
[22:24] <herrkin> TJ-, if I used the uuid it didnt mount it either
[22:25] <rww> NeverHere: #maas
[22:25] <TJ-> herrkin: which ubuntu release is it?
[22:25] <herrkin> TJ-, thats why we changed it. but it worked for a while, now it doesnt
[22:25] <gordonjcp> Rexter: yeah, stick it in preseed so when you netboot the installer you don't even have to think about it
[22:25] <herrkin> its 14.04
[22:25] <rww> NeverHere: you can ask here, but most people here probably have no experience with it
[22:25] <EriC^^> TJ-: does he have to create the partition a special way to use it with encryption?
[22:25] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, so Upstart not Systemd.
[22:26] <TJ-> EriC^^: No, the swap  gets recreated each boot with a new key from /dev/random
[22:26] <EriC^^> TJ-: i think we just created a normal swap and decided to use it without encryption at first
[22:26] <gordonjcp> Rexter: what's particularly funny is that the thumbnail screenshots in Firefox's "new tab" screen show the same corruption, from when they were grabbed :-)
[22:27] <wldcordeiro> I'm having trouble with getting my laptop to come back from a suspend. I have a Dell XPS 15 9530 and I installed 15.10 on it.
[22:27] <wldcordeiro> When I suspend and then try to start it back up the screen will stay off.
[22:27] <Rexter> gordonjcp: It may not be appropriate for all machines though, even most newer Intel boards.
[22:28] <Lord_Myth> I cannot seem to find gparted in the menu either
[22:28] <parityDrive> EriC^^: i gave up.  I've spent all day trying to fix it, need to get 8hrs of work done in 4 hrs. :P
[22:28] <Lord_Myth> I searched it with the bar, because I'm lost navigating this menu so far.
[22:28] <EriC^^> parityDrive: did you boot ubuntu again?
[22:28] <EriC^^> parityDrive: TJ- can help you i'm sure
[22:28] <TJ-> EriC^^: that won't affect things. herrkin what does this show? "grep ENABLE /etc/default/cryptdisks"
[22:29] <parityDrive> yes I did.
[22:29] <goddard> anyone know of an app that lets you simulate a web cam with a video?
[22:29] <parityDrive> and i had to manually boot into it.
[22:29] <EriC^^> parityDrive: try to modify the file again, as it was, hd1
[22:29] <parityDrive> no grub menu etc.
[22:29] <parityDrive> i did.
[22:29] <parityDrive> I'll do it after I do some work.
[22:29] <EriC^^> TJ-: it can't find the config
[22:29] <wldcordeiro> Anyone know about solutions to fixing suspend?
[22:29] <goddard> wldcordeiro: do you have a swap partition?
[22:30] <EriC^^> parityDrive: if you disconnect the other hdd's it might work maybe as a temporary fix if you need it
[22:30] <wldcordeiro> goddard: I'm not 100% sure. I installed default with LVM and an encrypted home dir, unless the install default stopped adding a swap partition I would assume so.
[22:30] <Lord_Myth> I'm baby-neckin' over here. Gparted is here, but it isn't. I don't get it
[22:31] <parityDrive> Na its ok, i have to much work to do.  I will probably move everything off sdb and redo it.
[22:31] <parityDrive> hopefully that works.
[22:31] <herrkin> TJ-, EriC^^ CRYPTDISKS_ENABLE=Yes
[22:32] <goddard> wldcordeiro: what does your system log say?
[22:32] <Lord_Myth> Does Ubuntu hate to install over another distro on a dual-bot system with Windows? Is that my issue? Do I need to Solve et Coagula?
[22:32] <wldcordeiro> goddard: where is the log?
[22:32] <goddard> wldcordeiro: just open the dash and type log
[22:33] <goddard> Lord_Myth: yes it can
[22:33] <Lord_Myth> Then it is all me, and that is worse
[22:33] <goddard> Lord_Myth: though it may not work "hassle free" depending on some partition schemes
[22:33] <Lord_Myth> I cannot access gparted to check my partitions and make sure everything is good
[22:33] <TJ-> herrkin: OK... so at boot-time Upstart will call the Sysv-init /etc/init.d/cryptdisks script, which will call /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks.functions which in turn parses /etc/crypttab and creates nodes based on what it finds. That creates a device mapper node /dev/mapper/cryptswap1. Later, mountall will use the entry in /etc/fstab to 'swapon' the swap device
[22:33] <goddard> Lord_Myth: you in live cd?
[22:34] <Lord_Myth> Negative
[22:34] <goddard> Lord_Myth: that is why
[22:34] <wldcordeiro> goddard: Is there something I should be looking for? It's spitting out every event type known to man.
[22:34] <Lord_Myth> ?
[22:34] <TJ-> herrkin: if something is going wrong in that process we need to look at the logs, starting with the kernel log. Can you "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log"
[22:34] <goddard> Lord_Myth: you can use disks to just view them but if you want to do any modification you need to boot into live cd
[22:34] <Lord_Myth> I can't even open it to view
[22:35] <goddard> wldcordeiro: you just gotta look over the time period when you attempted a shut down
[22:35] <Lord_Myth> I have a basic graps of the whole mounted stuff cannot be modified thing
[22:35] <Lord_Myth> I just wanna SEE it
[22:35] <goddard> Lord_Myth: gnome disks doesn't show it?
[22:35] <Lord_Myth> What is gnome disks? Can I type it in Terminal?
[22:36] <goddard> Lord_Myth: type it in the Dash
[22:36] <tlt> palimpsest
[22:36] <tlt> is the 'gnome disk'
[22:36] <tlt> command
[22:37] <function-> hey guys, anyone else experience the flickering when firing up google chrome? @ xubuntu 15.10 here
[22:37] <herrkin> do I have to install pastebin?
[22:37] <herrkin> TJ-,
[22:37] <Quatroking> anybody here know how to listen to internet radio using mplayer?
[22:37] <Lord_Myth> goddard I have Disks ?
[22:37] <Lord_Myth> I mean, it is called "Disks"
[22:37] <TJ-> herrkin: if it isn't installed, do instead "cat /var/log/kern.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:37] <goddard> Lord_Myth: perfect
[22:37] <Quatroking> trying to listen to http://www.538.nl but I can't seem to figure out what address to use
[22:37] <gordonjcp> Quatroking: depends on what they're trying to serve
[22:37] <tlt> try vlc Quatroking
[22:37] <gordonjcp> Quatroking: mplayer will choke on .pls files, but you can pass it the url within the .pls file
[22:38] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/fywu
[22:38] <goddard> Lord_Myth: that should display all the disks
[22:38] <Quatroking> gordonjcp, the only thing I've found so far is .asx
[22:38] <gordonjcp> Quatroking: I can't speak Dutch, where am I looking for the "listen" link?
[22:38] <Lord_Myth> goddard Do I need a root partition, and a home one too?
[22:38] <Rexter> gordonjcp: I don't know what's going on there. Do you think you'll need to reinstall Firefox?
[22:38] <gordonjcp> Rexter: hm?
[22:39] <Quatroking> gordonjcp, "Luister Nu"
[22:39] <Quatroking> the big green button on top
[22:39] <Quatroking> it opens up a popup with a flash-driven stream though
[22:39] <Squarism> What is the best way to integrate gmail with unity?
[22:39] <gordonjcp> Quatroking: hm, so it does
[22:40] <Lord_Myth> I just wanna make sure it is all proper. I had boot issues after installing Ubuntu
[22:40] <gordonjcp> Quatroking: http://www.hendrikjansen.nl/henk/streaming.html
[22:41] <Quatroking> tried those two links already :)
[22:41] <Quatroking> hold on though, might've found one
[22:41] <coolwasim> hello i was upgrading to 15.10 from 15.04 via terminal , i am getting the following message http://paste.ubuntu.com/12897854/
[22:41] <coolwasim> am not sure what is appropriate :)
[22:41] <gordonjcp> Quatroking: my next cunning plan would be to sniff the traffic with Wireshark and see where it comes from :-)
[22:41] <goddard> Lord_Myth: no just 1 root partition
[22:42] <Quatroking> woo, got it
[22:42] <function-> coolwasim: that's for a scanner
[22:42] <Quatroking> http://edge3-icecast.538.lw.triple-it.nl/RADIO538_MP3 worked
[22:42] <goddard> Lord_Myth: some people like to break out the home directory so they can re-install easier
[22:42] <coolwasim> my pc is a laptop with dual booted ubuntu and win7
[22:42] <tlt> grats Quatroking
[22:42] <Lord_Myth> goddard I think my partitions are screwed up then
[22:42] <function-> anyone here using 15.10 with google chrome?
[22:42] <coolwasim> function-: so i t doesn't matter? :)
[22:42] <function-> coolwasim: correct
[22:42] <Quatroking> gordonjcp, haha, wireshark, haven't used that in years
[22:42] <coolwasim> thanks
[22:43] <goddard> Lord_Myth: only need a swap and a root
[22:43] <EriC^^> Lord_Myth: type echo $PATH
[22:43] <herrkin> TJ-, EriC^^ http://termbin.com/fywu in case you didnt see
[22:43] <Quatroking> firefox/chrome's network tool usually works good enough though
[22:43] <Lord_Myth> echo $PATH
[22:43] <Lord_Myth> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[22:43] <goddard> Lord_Myth: if you do an install just remove the partitions you don't want and then create a swap and root
[22:43] <Quatroking> anyways I found a site that has the stream embedded and provided a WMP link
[22:43] <goddard> Lord_Myth: the swap should be the same size as your memory
[22:44] <Lord_Myth> goddard it is actually 2GB smaller
[22:44] <Lord_Myth> :/
[22:44] <aisam-linux> hi
[22:45] <TJ-> herrkin: there are no clues there, unfortunately
[22:45] <aisam-linux> i  love linux
[22:45] <goddard> Lord_Myth: it doesn't matter that much it is just the recommended way to go because if your memory is full it dumbs it all to disk
[22:45] <herrkin> TJ-, o.0
[22:45] <Lord_Myth> I see
[22:46] <TJ-> herrkin: let's try 'starting' that service manually and see if it works. "sudo /etc/init.d/cryptdisks start"
[22:46] <Lord_Myth> I removed uninstalled gparted since it wouldn't work
[22:47] <herrkin> TJ-, it says running but I see 0 0 0 in free-m
[22:47] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: How would I find out how many spare sectors there are to reallocate to? The person that controls the box is resisting replacing it, because apparently unless it is about to die imminently, it doesn't need to be replaced.
[22:47] <Lord_Myth> But it has been so long since I initially set up my partitions, that I don't remember any of it. Looks like a big mess and waste of efficieny and space
[22:48] <tlt> if the drive has reallocated at all it should just as well be replaced, OneM_Industries
[22:48] <TJ-> herrkin: "ls -l /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"
[22:48] <tlt> you will still have to eventually
[22:49] <OneM_Industries> I know, I know.
[22:49] <tlt> risky, have backups do
[22:49] <OneM_Industries> I just need some more data for this person.
[22:50] <OneM_Industries> There are backups.
[22:50] <herrkin> TJ-, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 oct 22 17:45 /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 -> ../dm-0
[22:50] <Lord_Myth> EriC^^ ?
[22:50] <TJ-> herrkin: It worked :D ... now do "sudo mount -a"
[22:50] <TJ-> herrkin: then "cat /proc/swaps"
[22:51] <Lord_Myth> So should I wipe the hardrive and start from scratch? I'm completely lost
[22:51] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: it doesn't work like that, you can't keep going with a disk that's shot.
[22:52] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: you need to convince them that these kinds of failures can spiral out of control, so data must be kept off it and it must be replaced immediately. Which one is the one this person is refusing to deal with?
[22:52] <OneM_Industries> I KNOW! This person does not, they are basing their assumptions on, and they stated this, 20 years ago, when bad sectors were meerly something that "Happened".
[22:52] <Guest13216> Google
[22:53] <OneM_Industries> Replaced.
[22:53] <daftykins> lol, idiots
[22:53] <OneM_Industries> They are refusing to replace it.
[22:53] <OneM_Industries> I can't exactly tell my dad that, now can I?
[22:53] <daftykins> so is it the seagate or the WD?
[22:53] <daftykins> well i would.
[22:53] <daftykins> but then my family believe me :P
[22:53] <OneM_Industries> Seagate.
[22:53] <OneM_Industries> It is one of the seagates.
[22:53] <daftykins> that's the one that's way worse
[22:54] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, I know.
[22:54] <daftykins> that thing is spiralling out of control even as is
[22:54] <daftykins> ah well, there's nothing we can do to help your situation
[22:54] <OneM_Industries> They want to know how many spare sectors it has, "Because if it is 293 out of 600, then it is a problem. If it is 293 out of 10,000, then it is not a problem.".
[22:55] <tlt> it's just as big of a problem
[22:55] <OneM_Industries> I just don't want it to fail and take out the whole kebang.
[22:55] <daftykins> i refuse to assist in a ridiculous situation like that, i've got a disk here which is 80GB... _50GB_ of it is bad because someone kept it running
[22:55] <OneM_Industries> Nice.
[22:55] <bazhang> OneM_Industries, ##hardware for this
[22:55] <OneM_Industries> Yep.
[22:55] <tlt> daftykins, it reallocates to the ordinary space map?
[22:56] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: Tell them spare-sectors only work if the disk can recover the data from a failing sector using the CRC data of that sector; if that won't work bad sectors will remain since they cannot be remapped. If the disk is in that situation then spare sectors are no help, and the disk is a liability
[22:56] <tlt> 50 gb?
[22:56] <daftykins> tlt: no those were bad, not reallocated
[22:56] <daftykins> you run out eventually obviously ;)
[22:56] <tlt> daftykins, yeah i figured eventually. That's bad.
[22:56] <TJ-> herrkin: is swap working now?
[22:57] <herrkin> TJ-, it isnt
[22:57] <TJ-> herrkin: did you use the mount command?
[22:57] <herrkin> proc/swaps blanc
[22:57] <herrkin> yes
[22:57] <tlt> try swapon -a
[22:57] <tlt> or something
[22:57] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, so let's remove the device mapper entry and re-run the init script. "sudo dmsetup remove /dev/mapper/cryptsetup1"
[22:58] <herrkin> I guess it is cryptswap1
[22:58] <TJ-> herrkin: Then, rerun the script: "sudo /etc/init.d/cryptdisks" and check again to ensure it was the script re-creating the node with "ls -l /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"
[22:58] <TJ-> herrkin: sorry, tired... typos!
[22:59] <herrkin> sudo /etc/init.d/cryptdisks it returns a message like it was not used correctly
[23:00] <TJ-> herrkin: Grr, more brain pain: "sudo /etc/init.d/cryptdisks start" and check again to ensure it was the script re-creating the node with "ls -l /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"
[23:01] <herrkin> now its there
[23:01] <herrkin> I got swap
[23:01] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, so that is working correctly. Now do "sudo blkid /dev/mapper/cryptswap1" and tell us what it reports
[23:02] <TJ-> herrkin: you did "mount -a" too?
[23:02] <herrkin> no
[23:02] <herrkin> just the start and it mounted
[23:02] <herrkin> no return for last command
[23:02] <herrkin> blkid
[23:02] <TJ-> herrkin: hmm, I'm pretty sure cryptdisks isn't supposed to mount the device-mapper node;  must be a udevd rule
[23:03] <herrkin> yes there is I forgot to type 1 at the end
[23:03] <herrkin> there is a rule
[23:03] <TJ-> herrkin: OK, well now we've proved it will work and we were using the boot-time scripts called manually,  so in theory a boot should also mount it
[23:03] <herrkin> in theory
[23:03] <herrkin> I am going to try
[23:04] <herrkin> I will be back to tell you if it worked
[23:07] <herrkin> TJ-, its on after reboot but while it was booting it said for a while it couldnt mount it
[23:07] <tlt> it always does
[23:07] <tlt> atleast with crypt set up
[23:07] <tlt> that line is always there.
[23:07] <TJ-> herrkin: that's to be expected... mountall jobs run in parallel and have to wait for their devices to appear
[23:08] <Squarism> what gmail notififier works with ubuntu/unity 14.04
[23:08] <Squarism> ?
[23:08] <herrkin> yes I noticed it did before but it still worked in the end. until now that I needed to come back here.
[23:08] <TJ-> herrkin: same happens with mdadm and/or LVM
[23:08] <herrkin> well its working for now. thanks a lot. if It happens again I would have to come back
[23:08] <tlt> don't worry about the swap line at bootup, it'll always be there
[23:09] <TJ-> herrkin: it would fail if you answered the wait prompt with (S)kip
[23:09] <tlt> yeah that's thrue though
[23:09] <herrkin> I never do, but sometimes this like keeps on the screen until the system loads
[23:09] <herrkin> then I check free -m
[23:09] <herrkin> no swap
[23:10] <tlt> you can check swap with the ' top ' command also
[23:10] <herrkin> thanks
[23:10] <TJ-> herrkin: "cat /proc/swaps" is the way to check the kernel's view of swap devices
[23:12] <herrkin> thanks again. bye for now.
[23:13] <tlt> bye herrkin
[23:13] <Epx998> anything other than recordfail that'd cause grub to wait at the menu indefinately?
[23:13] <gabriel_> dont know how i came here
[23:13] <tlt> yeah a ridiculously high timeout set
[23:16] <TJ-> Epx998: yes; missing vmlinuz-* and/or initrd-* for the default entry
[23:17] <tlt> I think it is ridiculous how short filenames have to be under ecryptfs
[23:17] <tlt> way shorter than the ext4 supported lengths
[23:18] <tlt> so everyone who "encrypts home dir" have to use relatively short filenames
[23:18] <SharonBites> mehdi: mano mikoni?
[23:19] <Epx998> TJ-: where do I validate the default entry?
[23:20] <TJ-> Epx998: if the default entry boots, then that isn't the issue.
[23:22] <TJ-> tlt: that's only if filename encryption is enabled; 140 characters is still a good margin
[23:22] <tlt> filename encryption however is enabled by default
[23:22] <tlt> but you're right
[23:23] <Epx998> bloody hell i just want this damn to boot without waiting on grub after a sudden shutdown
[23:23] <tlt> enabled by default in 12.04 and 14.04 at least
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[23:24] <p444> How can i find what start up services are runnign n linux?
[23:24] <TJ-> Epx998: "after a sudden shutdown" - that is due to the OS not clearing the Simple Boot flag
[23:24] <Jordan_U> p444: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:24] <Epx998> TJ-: how can I fix something like that?
[23:26] <EriC^^> p444: service --status-all
[23:26] <OneM_Industries> Does fsck have a command for checking a ntfs HDD?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> OneM_Industries: No. To properly check or repair an ntfs volume you need to use chkdsk from Windows.
[23:27] <p444> Jordan_U xubuntu
[23:27] <Jordan_U> p444: What release number?
[23:27] <OneM_Industries> Bother.
[23:27] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: you would not do that.
[23:27] <OneM_Industries> That...is going to be tricky.
[23:27] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: install to a spare, then chkdsk it
[23:27] <daftykins> as in, install Windows
[23:28] <OneM_Industries> I don't really have a spare.
[23:28] <daftykins> actually you can just boot the installer
[23:28] <daftykins> then shift+F6 will run a command prompt
[23:28] <TJ-> Epx998: the  grub.cfg script has several stanzaz that set timeout=XXX based on different conditions, which are generated from /etc/grub.d/00_header. Some of those are influenced by variables set in /etc/default/grub.
[23:28] <wakeatnight> Hi, is there a way to prevent LightDM of running dunst? (starting of dunst is in Openbox' autostart.sh - no idea why LightDM is running that)?
[23:28] <p444> Jordan_U 14.04
[23:29] <wakeatnight> I see I have an old .xinitrc in my home folder with exec openbox-session. Is that the problem?
[23:31] <Jordan_U> p444: Then I belive "initctl list | grep running" will get you that information.
[23:31] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: That only works for sysvinit scripts, not for native upstart jobs.
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Did you see my request for you to pastebin your /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[23:34] <Joeboy> Since I upgraded to 15.10, I can see wireless APs with iwlist scan, but the network manager applet no longer contains any references to anything wireless. No "Enable wifi", no SSIDs listed. Any ideas?
[23:34] <TJ-> Jordan_U: service works with Upstart jobs too
[23:35] <p444> Jordan_U thanks, this lists things such as 'upstart-file-bridge start/running process 1799' etc. does this command show what is currently runnign or what runs on start up? Sorry for newbie questions, learning
[23:35] <ai6pg> American Human Right Wolf Defense with a firearm saves lives http://holmesivonline.com
[23:36] <Jordan_U> TJ-: From "man service" : service --status-all runs all init scripts, in alphabetical order, with the status command. This option only calls status  for  sysvinit  jobs, upstart jobs can be queried in a similar manner with initctl list'.
[23:36] <Epx998> Jordan_U: I didn't - 1 sec trying one last change.
[23:36] <TJ-> Jordan_U: From "/usr/sbin/service": "... # Upstart configuration exists for this job and we're running on upstart ..."
[23:37] <durt> Just upgraded to 15.10 lost 3g usb modem (connects but no network) anyone else?
[23:37] <Epx998> Jordan_U: Tweaking the timeouts from 0 to 5 and enabling display of the countdown
[23:38] <Jordan_U> p444: It shows what is currently running, which is pretty close to the same as what was started at boot. Maybe bootchart would give you the information you want. What is your end goal?
[23:39] <Epx998> ok making those pastebins
[23:39] <Jordan_U> Joeboy: Do you have any wireless configuration in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[23:39] <wakeatnight> Will disabling Composite in X.org cause any problems (I am not running a compositing manager)?
[23:39] <wakeatnight> I am using the radeon open source driver.
[23:40] <Jordan_U> wakeatnight: I don't see how it would, but I also wouldn't expect it to have any noticeable effect if you're not running a compositor. Why do you want to disable composite?
[23:41] <wakeatnight> Jordan_U: I use LightDM with Openbox and run dunst for notifications. For some reason, it gets loaded (or something else?) during LightDM...
[23:41] <wakeatnight> And it looks weird, black borders etc.
[23:41] <wakeatnight> I guess LightDM expects compositing.
[23:42] <wakeatnight> dunst gets loaded in Openbox' autostart.sh
[23:42] <wakeatnight> Which shouldn't be run while still in LightDM I thought.
[23:42] <Epx998> Jordan_U:
[23:43] <wakeatnight> Jordan_U: I alsa have a trailing .xinitrc with "exec openbox-session" in it. Should I remove that or is that still needed even though I run LightDM now?
[23:43] <wakeatnight> also*
[23:43] <wakeatnight> Any help would be great.
[23:43] <Epx998> etc/default/grub: http://paste.ofcode.org/NHnNubpfyduiTq76xZvr9v
[23:43] <p444> Jordan_U These are my 3goals! My goal is to 1) List all startup services my laptop are running  2) Check what each of them services are and what they are for which i will search online, 3) Configure laptop so I can turn off whats not needed to start up via command and then also configure what needs to be on during startup.. I can do it in windows but linux is different.. trying ot get into Computer Science
[23:43] <Epx998> boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://paste.ofcode.org/jKxVzZrnvQmjfAxNinX5Yi
[23:43] <tlt> wakeatnight, comment the line out with a # in front of it and just try and see
[23:44] <tlt> if it causes errors remove the # again
[23:44] <Casey> Hello?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> TJ-: That comment doesn't seem to relate to the --status-all option, which seems to only iterate through services in /etc/init.d/, as documented in the manual, but I'll admit I don't completely understand that script.
[23:45] <Joeboy> Jordan_U: I got it working! Had to enable the interface with iwconfig and restart networking, for some reason.
[23:45] <tlt> wakeatnight, if you are running lightdm with a shipped x session config then you should not really need anything in xinitrc
[23:46] <wakeatnight> OK tlt I'm gonna try it out.
[23:46] <Casey> sorry i'm new to bash, what does this code do? http://pastebin.com/mPPCUe5c
[23:47] <daftykins> Casey: ask in #bash
[23:47] <Casey> ok
[23:47] <TJ-> Jordan_U: yes, you're correct. Apologies. I missed the mention of status-all (popping in and out :)
[23:48] <Jordan_U> TJ-: No problem :)
[23:49] <TJ-> Good time to get off to bed, before the west coast starts trying 15.10 upgrades!
[23:49] <Jordan_U> Epx998: I don't see any reason why that grub.cfg should wait at the menu for anything other than 5 seconds unless a key is pressed. Can you reproduce the problem currently?
[23:50] <Epx998> Jordan_U: Yes, I am sending a 'power off hard' command vie iLO to simulate a crash of sorts.
[23:50] <tlt> no wonder you get grub errors then
[23:50] <tlt> or clean boot flag errors which is
[23:51] <Epx998> I am not getting a grub error, I am reproducing what is happening in PROD
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Epx998: And the result is it waiting indefinitely at the grub menu?
[23:51] <Epx998> How can I correct this so when something like ths happens, grub boots?
[23:51] <Epx998> Jordan_U: Yes
[23:51] <tlt> wakeatnight, how it seems?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Can you reproduce, then press 'c' to get to a grub shell and then "echo $timeout"?
[23:52] <wakeatnight> tlt, Jordan_U: Problem persists. I think this _isn't_ a compositing issue. I think this is the unthemed dunst...
[23:52] <Epx998> Jordan_U: Ok on it
[23:52] <wakeatnight> Is there a way to check whether it gets loaded on startup?
[23:52] <tlt> wakeatnight, it could be. Sorry to hear that though.
[23:52] <wakeatnight> If so, I would like to remove it so it only starts when I am in Openbox.
[23:53] <wakeatnight> I read about .desktop files as a means to start up programs. Can I look up if there is a dunst.desktop?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Epx998: I wonder if your iLO setup might just be sending spurious keypresses. If grub detects a keypress, any key press, that will cancel the timeout.
[23:53] <TJ-> Epx998: Add "GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=X" to /etc/default/grub
[23:53] <Epx998> Jordan_U: I asked that with the guy who orders these servers.
[23:54] <Epx998> TJ-: I did.  Well not X, I set it to 0.
[23:54] <TJ-> Epx998: 0 == wait forever usually
[23:55] <Epx998> TJ-: hmm ok, I thought -1 was wait forever.
[23:55] <Epx998> Prior to this reset, I went back to 5 - see what happens.
[23:55] <TJ-> Epx998: You know, now you said that I'm doubting myself!
[23:55] <wakeatnight> tlt: Nope. No dunst.desktop file around. What is this unthemed/default themed dunst (or something else?) doing in LightDM?
[23:56] <Jordan_U> Epx998: TJ-: Indeed, -1 is wait forever in this case. Also note that at least since 14.04 the default has been to wait 30 seconds if a previous boot failure is detected, not to wait indefinitely.
[23:56] <tlt> wakeatnight, sorry I haven't the slightest idea!
[23:56] <wakeatnight> tlt: Ah OK. No problem.
[23:56] <Epx998> Jordan_U: This is 12.04 btw. ;P
[23:57] <Epx998> the 'echo $timeout' just returned an empty line
[23:57] <tlt> wakeatnight, if you have no custom configs or important files there, why not nuke all the respective . directories?
[23:58] <tlt> for lightdm/dunst or whatso
[23:58] <Jordan_U> Epx998: That's not normal. Are you sure you don't have a typo?
[23:58] <wakeatnight> Well I do have my dunst theme tlt
[23:58] <wakeatnight> I would like to use it
[23:58] <tlt> might be some crud from earlier and from manually exec etc
[23:58] <tlt> ok
[23:58] <wakeatnight> But it's in my home folder so LightDM can't see it I guess.
[23:58] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Or maybe it is (I just tried it myself).
[23:58] <tlt> .themes might be an official theme folder
[23:59] <tlt> try placing the theme in ~/.themes
[23:59] <daftykins> !themes
[23:59] <tlt> or at worst .Themes
[23:59] <wakeatnight> It is.
[23:59] <daftykins> !changethemes
[23:59] <wakeatnight> daftykins: Thanks but that is not the issue.